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Hey, the Bird show.
Jessica
Jessica and I are up in South Carolina a week or so ago, and we walk into this bar where everybody hangs out and it's pretty crowded. And we take a seat. We have to share a table with other people. So we find like, a table for six that has two empty seats at it. And sitting at the table is couple number one and couple number two. Couple number one. We kind of know a little bit like, where we know who they are, met them, talked to them, conversations. Couple number two, we became friends with them very quickly because we wanted to sit at their table. So we walk up, hey, how you doing? Oh, why don't you sit here? Really?
Host
Oh, cool.
Jessica
And then we sat and we got to sit at the. At the bar. So we were all very excited. So we're hanging out and everything's fine. And at one point, the crowd kind of. The crowd at the bar kind of splits up and some people go see other people and whatever or at the table. And so it ends up being Jessica and I and wife number Two of the two couples. And for whatever reason, and the only thing I can think is that this had been in her head for hours or days or weeks or however long. And it was about her head was literally about to split open and explode and go out if she didn't release the pressure. So she dumps on us the following story in hopes that we would have some sort of wisdom to make everything all better.
Co-host 1
So you guys were the therapy.
Jessica
I guess so.
Co-host 2
But on a scale of 1 to 10, these friends are. How good of friends are yours?
Jessica
Don't even know them. Couple number two, this wife number two we met that night.
Co-host 2
Okay.
Jessica
Couple number one. We have seen them before at the bar. Well enough to know what their first name is, I think, and kind of what part of town they live in. I don't even know if I know his wife's first name. Like, I mean, we didn't know at all.
Co-host 2
Almost this close to strangers.
Jessica
Yes. If there was another table open, we wouldn't have sat with him.
Co-host 1
Right.
Jessica
So we end up. We end up in this conversation. And she explains that some number of months ago, the husband number one, the guy that we kind of know, comes to her and confesses that he is miserable in his marriage, not happy in his marriage. And she's like. And they know each other better than we do. The four of them know each other. I think they're actually neighbors or co workers or something. So there's a bond between them. So she's like, oh, wow, that really sucks. He's like, yeah, blah, blah, blah. And. And then continues on and says that he thinks that she, the girl he's talking to, is his soulmate.
Co-host 1
So it's husband number one talking to wife number two.
Jessica
Wife number two.
Co-host 1
And wife number two is relaying this whole story to you.
Jessica
Yes.
Host
Got it.
Jessica
So we're looking across the bar and we're looking at the other three of them. Husband and wife number one and husband number two all hanging out at the bar, having a great time, realizing that the guy who's hanging out with the other guy at the bar recently, within the year, told that guy's wife that they're soulmates.
Co-host 2
So this isn't her saying, oh, my God, I haven't told anybody this, I gotta tell you.
Jessica
Right?
Co-host 2
They have been seeing each other. No, they have not even been seeing each other.
Jessica
She says, that's not cool. I don't want any part of it. And he starts getting all.
Co-host 1
She doesn't feel they're soulmates.
Jessica
No. She's like, I'm married. And things are cool. So she starts. So she kind of like, you know, says, this isn't cool. And. And he says, all right. But starts sending her text messages, leaving her little notes, stuff like that. Says, are you sure? Blah, blah, blah. And finally has a few beers in him and tries to make out with her. And she, at that point, was defiant enough and says, no, no, you don't understand. Happily married. This is not gonna happen. Stop. Screech breaks and it goes away. She never tells her husband about it. So the whole flirty thing goes on for, like, a month until the kiss tries to happen, shuts it down. And that happened. I think it's some holiday party. So, like, six months ago. And then there's never any. Not another text message, not another note. And she's like, oh, my God, that's no problem. Until, like, six weeks ago, it comes up again, and it's more intense than it was before. He's like, I tried to be without you. It didn't work. You're all like, think about. So she's dumping all this on us, and we're like, no way. He's married.
Co-host 2
Yeah, he's married.
Jessica
He's married. We're. Well, in the course of. Since the six. You know, the months where this whole thing. She kind of threw the bucket of water on it. In the course of that whole time, her husband and him, the guy who wants to be with her, have become great friends. So now they're friends because husband number.
Co-host 1
One'S trying to figure out as many ways as he can to hang out with wife number two. He's manipulating her husband, so he's getting.
Co-host 2
Close with the husband just to hang.
Jessica
Out, fishing trips together, close friends. So then the guy turns up the heat within the past few weeks, and apparently something had happened that night, which is why I think her head was about to explode while we got this whole story. And then she says to us, now, here's my dilemma. And it's a good one. Here's my dilemma. How can I tell my husband that this is happening? Because it originally came up at the end of last year. And if I go to him now and tell him the whole story, he's gonna be like, why the hell didn't you tell me at the end of last year? And why did you let me become best friends with this guy over the past six months?
Co-host 2
I would be bummed if the roles are with me now and with Stacy. And she said that this has been going on for that long, and she never told me there'd be A small part of me questioning why she never brought it up. So do you like the attention? Are you attracted to the guy? Why wouldn't you bring it up before?
Co-host 1
But if she lies to her husband and just talks about this being a recent thing and then the. And then. And then he brings it up, the fact that they've had interaction before this about it, then she's in worse trouble with her husband.
Jessica
Jessica and I eased her mind by coming to the conclusion that there's no way out.
Co-host 2
What do you do, Wendy, in this situation? You're the wife.
Caller
Oh, I don't even know.
Jessica
There's no solution.
Caller
There's nothing.
Co-host 2
You have to just. There is no good way out. So the only way out is to be totally honest and take the heat. Because it's either be honest and take the heat or lie and eventually take the heat. I'd rather be honest.
Caller
I think you would have to tell the whole truth.
Co-host 1
You'd have to.
Jessica
But if you tell the whole truth, then you've got so many issues. You've got number one, why didn't you tell me last fall when this drama was going on? Number two, he tried to kiss you, and then you let him and I become great friends.
Co-host 1
Yeah, she's gonna be in trouble either way. But I think honesty. She's gonna be in through lesser trouble. Because if she. If it ends up she lies to her husband on top of all of this, then that could be the end of the.
Jessica
Yeah.
Caller
And then more details come out after she told the lie and she didn't tell the whole story, then she's gonna be even worse trouble. So she might as well come out with it all.
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Co-host 1
What was happening that was so pressing where she felt like it had. She had to tell him now.
Jessica
Well, I think the guy, the 30 husband guy had come back. Like, I think she thought it was gone. And she's like, okay, when. When I said, hey, I'm not gonna kiss you, and squashed it. He totally got the picture and was gone. So then she's cool, right? And she thought everything is nice and like her. And so she's like, ah, maybe he was just fighting. I think her logic was he's just battling with his wife right then and there and having trauma with that, you know, with. With. So he was coming to me for comfort, but now everything's all better. And then over the past month, and my guess is, while she never said this because, you know, Jessica and I talked about this great length after it all happened and she was gone, but After. My guess is that something happened that night or like, the day before where he, like, cranked it up, like, turned it up to 10.
Co-host 2
I'm ready to leave her now for you.
Jessica
Right. If you just give me.
Co-host 2
There's gotta be a reason why he stayed around for a year, though. I mean, obviously, she. She didn't say to him in harsh enough terms, this is never, ever, ever.
Jessica
She says she did.
Caller
Well, what if she goes to wife number one and tells wife number one what her husband's doing?
Co-host 1
I said that her husband's gonna find out anyway.
Co-host 2
Yeah, she's busted. I'd just be honest and be busted first. Carla, good Morning. You're on Q100.
Caller
Hey. How are you guys doing?
Co-host 2
Okay.
Caller
I love your show.
Co-host 2
Thank you.
Caller
Okay, whatever. Was it wife number one that got hit on or wife number two?
Jessica
Wife number two got hit on by husband number one.
Host
Okay.
Caller
Wife number two should have not been hanging out with them anymore after the first time he hit on her. She wanted the attention. She liked the attention. That's why she kept hanging out with him. Why is she out with him just the other night?
Jessica
She's not. It wasn't just her and him out. It was the two couples out because the two husbands have become best friends.
Co-host 2
She could have squashed this, though. I see what she's saying. This woman loved the attention.
Jessica
See, I.
Co-host 2
At some level, she absolutely loved it. She would have cut it off.
Jessica
How do you say that, though? Like, how do you say you can't be friends?
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Jessica
Like, what would you say if Stacey came to you out of nowhere, out of nowhere, and just said, I don't really like hanging out with Dolvett anymore? You'd be like, why? We're good friends.
Co-host 2
Yeah. Of course you question that. Right?
Jessica
Right. And she's. I just don't. I just don't want to hang out with him. You'd be like, you're nuts.
Host
Right.
Co-host 1
Well, there's some women who, like. It's either one of two things. Either she likes the attention and that's why she kind of lingers it around, or she's one of those women that just doesn't want to be rude and just doesn't know how to handle the situation and keeps her mouth shut, doesn't want to rock the boat type of thing. Yeah. And then if he thinks they're soulmates, that's creepy. It's not just that he has a crush on her. He's att. He thinks they're soul mates and is determined to have her.
Co-host 2
Yeah. She's painted herself into a really tight corner because she can't not do anything about it either. It's a zero do something.
Jessica
It's a zero win situation.
Co-host 2
I certainly hope that you got close enough to them that night to where you got their phone numbers. When we got to get some closure.
Host
On this in a couple of weeks.
Jessica
It's. It's there. Yeah, it's not gonna. However it is, it's not gonna go. That's the advice Jessica and I left her with. She said, what should I do? I'm like, yeah, there's really no way out in this.
Co-host 2
When I was at this radio convention last week, a whole bunch of the radio guys confessed to each other that we have friends in our lives that we just keep around, that we really don't like that much. But they give us great radio material. This is a couple that you need to stay. This is a tax write off. Every time you take them out, dude, write it off.
Jessica
I should go back up there this weekend and hunt them down.
Co-host 2
I need closure.
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Release Date: February 18, 2026
This episode dives into a real-life listener dilemma involving complex relationship boundaries, secrets between friends and spouses, and the moral quandaries that follow. The crew discusses a situation where a married man believes his "soulmate" is another woman—who is also married—and the ethical fallout when this secret stirs up an interconnected group of friends. The show serves up insight, empathy, and humor as the cast weighs in and fields listener calls.
"So we end up in this conversation. And she explains that some number of months ago, the husband number one...confesses that he is miserable in his marriage...and then continues on and says that he thinks that she, the girl he's talking to, is his soulmate."
— Jessica [03:37–04:18]
"Happily married. This is not gonna happen. Stop. Screech breaks and it goes away. She never tells her husband about it."
— Jessica [05:00–05:17]
"In the course of that whole time, her husband and him...have become great friends. So now they're friends because husband number one's trying to figure out as many ways as he can to hang out with wife number two. He's manipulating her husband."
— Co-host 1 [06:03–06:25]
"There is no good way out. So the only way out is to be totally honest and take the heat. Because it's either be honest and take the heat or lie and eventually take the heat. I'd rather be honest."
— Co-host 2 [07:53–08:07]
"She wanted the attention. She liked the attention. That's why she kept hanging out with him."
— Caller [10:23–10:33]
“How do you say that, though? Like, how do you say you can't be friends?”
— Jessica [10:48–10:51]
"It's either one of two things. Either she likes the attention and that's why she kind of lingers it around, or she's one of those women that just doesn't want to be rude and just doesn't know how to handle the situation..."
— Co-host 1 [11:07–11:18]
“This is a couple that you need to stay...Every time you take them out, dude, write it off.”
— Co-host 2 [11:51–12:09]
On the intensity of the secret:
"The only thing I can think is that this had been in her head for hours or days or weeks or however long. And it was about her head was literally about to split open and explode...if she didn't release the pressure."
— Jessica [02:12–03:02]
On the inevitability of consequences:
"Either be honest and take the heat or lie and eventually take the heat."
— Co-host 2 [07:56–08:00]
On the impossibility of an easy solution:
"It's a zero win situation."
— Jessica [11:32–11:34]
The episode maintains a warm, humorous, conversational vibe. The cast approaches sensitive, awkward subjects with earnest empathy, yet isn’t afraid to joke about the messiness of real-life relationships. Listeners are encouraged to engage, and the overall style is breezy and relatable.