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Adam Grant
This is the Birch show.
Bert
So my wife and I have been having this debate about babysitters with our three and a half year old since he was like months old. And because my wife was a teenage babysitter back in the day, she feels like it's perfectly fine to have a teenager watch our child. And I have stood my ground on this one and I have planted in firmly on it. And I will not give.
Chip
Did you never babysit?
Bert
I did.
Chip
You did babysit. But you wouldn't change it.
Bert
Part of the reason why I'm saying that teenage babysitters aren't responsible is. Is because I was watching tv.
Angela Bass
Hey Chip, come over here. Have you ever seen a stone four.
Bert
Year old blowing smoke in the kid's face? Here is what I would like to do and I know that it's not fair. Okay. I could do this one of two ways. I could take calls on both why teenage babysitters are fine and calls on why you should stay away from them. I'm not looking for that. I am looking for shock treatment for my wife. Because I will not budge. I'm not even open to to the debate of having a teenager watch our child. I am closed. Closed. Closed.
Chip
You were robbing Hayden of the opportunity to have a crush on a teenage babysitter. Angela Bass.
Bert
He'll get that somewhere.
Chip
Columbia, Tennessee. My brother had the biggest crush on Angela Bass. She took good care of him.
Angela Bass
Dude, remember Lisa Watson? I didn't. So tired he's not even gonna remember.
Chip
I'm still friends with my babysitter. Of course you are.
Bert
It's the potential.
Chip
It's a Hobbyville.
Bert
Right? It is the potential that something can go wrong with the teenage babysitter. And the are not equipped mature wise to take care of your kid.
Chip
They take classes on that, dude.
Bert
Oh man, come on.
Angela Bass
Nine of the teenage babysitters room in show land.
Chip
No, they take classes. There's babysitter courses. I took CPR. Look, there's a babysitter's club that will.
Bert
Certify you 90% of the teenagers.
Chip
Don't say that just because I was. I was.
Angela Bass
Here's how babysitters happen in our neighborhood. Hey dollar. You going anywhere this afternoon? All right. Make sure Josh doesn't set himself on fire. It's not like. Can I see your CPR card?
Bert
There might be teenagers that are taking those classes but 90% of the teenagers that are watching your kids have not taken those classes. So what I am looking for is support in my debate with my wife. I want to hear stories.
Chip
It's one sided.
Bert
It is totally and completely one sided. All right? I am looking for stories of how your. How the teenage babysitter totally screwed up her responsibilities. Cuz things can happen too fast. Too fast. I mean with a child things can go wrong in a millisecond. And a 14 year old, I believe a 15 year old is not equipped to deal with that situation. My Wife does not believe that's the case. She was a great babysitter. She's just like Jen Hobby here.
Angela Bass
Well, of course she was.
Bert
Baby never went wrong.
Angela Bass
Everybody thinks she was a great, you know, like I'm sure Jen thinks she was the perfect babysitter when she had kids. But you know what? Nothing went wrong. But you don't know how you would have reacted if that kid tumbled, you know? Well, you would have had your CPR card and your emergency numbers on the laminate around your neck. But the youngest teenager.
Chip
Yeah, I babysat. Nothing happened. One time, I mean, two little boys and I, and they survived. The parents came home and they're still alive. And I felt that was a badge of honor for having to babysit again because my kids freaked me out.
Bert
Little late to be finding out then.
Chip
But I wasn't 14, I was more like 17.
Bert
So we had the girl that lives next door to us, Dana, watch Hayden a couple of different times. She's at that point, I think she was 16 or 17 years old, but her mom was literally 50ft away. And I was still not comfortable with that because even that even having the parents that close, things can go wrong so fast. So I have really kind of put my foot down. And when this issue came up on Desperate Housewives, we started the debate yet again this weekend and, and I just want stories from people that I can compile this tape and I can actually play it for my wife so it never, ever, ever comes up again because I will not allow it.
Angela Bass
So if you're a parent who's got a 16 year old neighbor who has watched your kid 10 times and nothing's going wrong, and she actually cleans the house while you're out and sometimes even bakes a ziti and leaves it in the oven for you. No calls. But if you had a 16 year old watch the house and. And during the course of that, they burned down the garage. The kid locked himself in the bathroom with the tub running and she accidentally gave him adult medicine instead of kid medicine.
Bert
That's what we're looking for. Good morning, Alicia. You're on the Burt Show. Hi.
Caller
Hey. My sister got pregnant when she was 15 while she was babysitting by the kid.
Angela Bass
She was babysitting?
Caller
No, that was my sister. But the kids were there when she got pregnant.
Bert
Well, who did she get pregnant by?
Caller
Well, her husband now, but he was 19 and she was 15 and she.
Chip
Had a boy come over while she's babysitting.
Caller
He had a boy come over and she. Yeah. Did the Nasty. Got pregnant.
Bert
Got pregnant while she was supposed to be watching the kids.
Chip
Now the kids are alive, right? The kids survive. Not only did they suffer any sort of long term, not only were the.
Angela Bass
Kids that she was watching healthy, but she brought a new life in the world.
Chip
What is so wrong with that?
Angela Bass
So far, Bert, your theory sucks.
Chip
Next zero to one.
Bert
Good morning, Jenny. You're on the Burp Show. Hi. Hello.
Caller
Hello.
Bert
Hi. You're on the Voice Disguiser. Go ahead.
Caller
I used to go into their liquor cabinet and drink their alcohol when I was babysitting.
Angela Bass
Now let me ask you a question, Jenny. Did you ever give the alcohol to the kids you were babysitting?
Caller
No, I did not go that far.
Angela Bass
Don't be ridiculous, Owen. 2.
Chip
Bert, were the kids still alive when the parents got home?
Caller
Yes.
Bert
All right, how many kids were you watching and how old were they?
Caller
It wasn't just one set of kids. I mean, like, we would babysit for the whole neighborhood.
Angela Bass
So how many. How many kids died under your watch?
Caller
No kids died under my watch.
Chip
All right, Anybody break anything?
Caller
No.
Chip
They were multitasking, Bert. They were having a keg party and babysitting the neighborhood kids at the same time.
Bert
How many kids are you talking about? You babysitting at the same time?
Caller
Normally it was just one family. So if they had two kids, then. Two kids. I mean, if they only had one, then. I mean, it wasn't like we had like five families.
Chip
Did you ever get busted for drinking their alcohol?
Caller
No.
Chip
Did the parents come home drunker than you?
Caller
That's happened more than once?
Adam Grant
Yes.
Chip
That was my experience was that the parents would come home wasted.
Bert
Well, that's the reason why you have a babysitter there. Somebody sober that can be with your kids. So while you come stumbling in, they spend the night. Things are fun.
Angela Bass
I was a teenage.
Chip
They still had to drive me home.
Angela Bass
Yeah, my concern is I don't want anybody who can't drive watching my kids because they're gonna have to drive if I have. Like, if I have kids and I'm going out, I'm not planning on driving anybody when I get home. So there you go. Drive yourself home. Have a nice day.
Chip
Get on your bike. See you later.
Bert
Hey, Sonya.
Caller
Hey. Why isn't he a good perfect reason why you should not get a teenage babysitter? All right, I got one from down the street. The mother was literally 50ft away. Fortunately, I came home early to find that the babysitter locked herself out of the house with my two year old upstairs, still awake in her bedroom.
Angela Bass
What was he doing?
Caller
I don't know. She was just out in the car.
Angela Bass
And what was your kid doing upstairs?
Caller
Oh, just up awake reading her or playing with her games and sitting up in bed.
Chip
Was he still alive?
Angela Bass
He wasn't cutting himself or anything.
Chip
It's a shame.
Caller
Unfortunately not, but you never know.
Bert
So the line of acceptance is, if.
Chip
The kid lives, then what is she doing today?
Caller
Well, she's in school right now.
Chip
Is she smart?
Caller
Yes.
Chip
Okay, did she hurt herself? Does she impale anything? Did she break anything?
Caller
No. I guess it was too much to ask that the babysitter stay in the house. So who knows?
Bert
How old was the babysitter?
Caller
Seventeen.
Bert
Seventeen. All right.
Chip
And Bert, to answer your question for me as a babysitter, yes, it is a very important detail that. The fact that the child is still alive when the parents.
Bert
No, that's the only detail for you guys. So long as the baby is still.
Chip
Alive, we are zero for yep.
Bert
Hey, jolly good morning. You're on the Bert Show.
Caller
I got you. I got you, Bert. Okay, you ready? Brace yourself. All right. I had a 2 year old, okay? I hired a 15 year old kid, vouched for by every person known to man, okay? Everyone was singing the little girl's praises. All right? I only had to go somewhere from 7 o' clock to 10 o'. Clock, 7 o' clock to 10 o''. Clock. This little girl, 15 years old for a 7 o' clock to 10 o' clock job. She brings vodka, vodka to my house. And not only takes of it herself, but gives so much to my child that my child becomes unconscious. She had to call the paramedics. And when I got home, I got home, I was arrested for child neglect.
Bert
No way. How old is your child?
Caller
Two. She was two at the time.
Bert
Oh my.
Adam Grant
How did she.
Angela Bass
Did she come through it okay?
Chip
Is she okay?
Caller
No, no. She's got blood alcohol poisoning. She still has to go to the hospital regularly.
Chip
Really?
Bert
Is that right?
Caller
Absolutely. She gave my. My. It was so much. It was like. It's not water. You know what I mean? You don't. You don't drink that much yourself. Why would you give a 2 year old that much?
Bert
And how old was a 15 year old?
Caller
Surely she's been drinking long enough. She brought the liquor herself. Surely she could pay attention to the amounts.
Bert
Unbelievable. Now, did you end up like.
Caller
Don't ever do. I tell everyone I know on the street. I tell everyone I know. Don't ever hire a child to watch your children. It's unfair. Because this little girl she looks at me like she's so sad. I'm so sad I did this to you. And I'm so, so bad for her because she's still a kid. Don't ever do it to them.
Bert
I'm wondering.
Caller
They have no idea what to do in case of emergency.
Bert
Like, legally, that wasn't even an emergency. But I mean, it turned into an emergency. But legally, like, can you even do anything about it? I mean, here you hired the person, so legally you can't even, like, sue a minor like that, right?
Caller
Right now I'm still trying to. I still have to go to parenting classes, you know, to maintain custody of my own child. Okay. Because the court found that it was so absurd for me as an adult to hire a 15 year old. Like, what were you thinking? Ma', am, I'll never think it again. And I encourage no one else to think it again.
Bert
This is the only call I have to play for. Stacy is right there. Hey, Sarah, good morning. You're on the Burt Show.
Caller
Hi. I was calling to let you know that kids do not need to babysit for the simple fact that my brother was being watched by a 15 year old girl and caught the house on fire.
Adam Grant
Oh, good God.
Bert
How old was the teen babysitter?
Caller
She was 15.
Bert
15 years old. They're just not equipped. I mean, they're just so young, like, to put the most precious thing in your life in the hands of a teenager. Man, I know it's been done a trillion times over the course of history, but I just can't do it. I just absolutely can't do it. And there are very few things in my house that I won't bend on, but this is one that I just absolutely refuse to bend on. That's the end of that.
Angela Bass
Thank you for that call.
Adam Grant
So there you have it.
Caller
You're welcome.
Angela Bass
House on Fire. Burt on a soapbox.
Bert
So there you have it.
Adam Grant
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Bert
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Episode: Vault: How Did Your Babysitter Screw Up?
Date: November 4, 2025
Main Cast: Bert, Chip, Angela Bass
Theme: The ongoing debate about whether teenage babysitters are a safe and responsible choice for young children, featuring real-life stories of babysitting gone wrong.
This episode centers on Bert’s vehement stance against hiring teenage babysitters for his young child. Driven by a heated debate with his wife (who was herself a responsible teenage babysitter), Bert crowdsources stories from listeners to compile “shock treatment” evidence for his argument: teens are simply too young and immature for the responsibility. The episode is a blend of humorous banter, personal anecdotes, and jaw-dropping listener calls, all delivered in the Bert Show’s trademark candid, irreverent style.
Each call adds fuel to either Bert’s fears or his cohosts’ skepticism.
Pregnancy on the Job
Teen Drinking on the Job
Babysitter Locked Out
Serious Negligence: Vodka Incident
House on Fire
Panel keeps joking:
Bert doubles down:
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|----------------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:30 | Bert | “I am looking for shock treatment for my wife. I am closed. Closed. Closed.” | | 06:30 | Alicia (Caller)| “My sister got pregnant when she was 15 while she was babysitting...” | | 07:26 | Jenny (Caller) | “I used to go into their liquor cabinet and drink their alcohol when I was babysitting.” | | 10:06 | Jolly (Caller) | “She brings vodka, vodka to my house. And not only takes of it herself, but gives so much to my child that my child becomes unconscious.” | | 11:59 | Jolly (Caller) | “Right now I’m... still have to go to parenting classes to maintain custody... because the court found it was so absurd for me... to hire a 15 year old.”| | 12:32 | Sarah (Caller) | “My brother was being watched by a 15 year old girl and caught the house on fire.” | | 12:37 | Bert | “They're just not equipped…to put the most precious thing in your life in the hands of a teenager.”|
This episode is a wild ride through the spectrum of babysitting horror stories, alternately hilarious and horrifying. Bert ultimately stands firm in his position: handing your child over to a teenager, no matter how responsible they may seem, isn’t worth the risk. The segment is equal parts entertainment and cautionary public service announcement for anxious parents everywhere.
For a full taste of the debate's energy, listen from 10:06 onward for Jolly’s harrowing account—Bert’s ultimate “I told you so” moment.