Vault: How to bust your partner having an affair

Summary

The Bert Show – "Vault: How to Bust Your Partner Having an Affair"

Date: July 2, 2026
Episode Theme:
The episode dives into the clandestine ways people hide affairs, sharing both high-profile examples and real listener stories about uncovering infidelity. The cast and callers openly discuss red flags, tech tricks, emotional fallout, and the often-surprising creativity involved in deceptive relationships. With humor and candidness, they explore what partners should watch out for if they're suspicious—and how cheaters get caught.

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Episode Overview

The Bert Show tackles the messy subject of infidelity, taking inspiration from celebrity scandals—particularly the John Edwards and Rielle Hunter affair—to frame a highly participatory segment. Listeners call in to share methods cheaters use to cover their tracks and, more importantly, how they were eventually discovered. The hosts add their signature mix of jokes, empathy, and playful jabs, making for an episode that's both revealing and darkly funny.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Celebrity Case Study: John Edwards and Rielle Hunter

• Double Cell Phones: Rielle Hunter bought John Edwards a secret second phone to keep their affair under wraps.

  • Quote (B, 01:42): "She is the other woman in John Edwards' marriage... in order to hide their relationship, she purchased a cell phone that's identical to the one he normally carries."

• Parallel with Tiger Woods: Similar use of phone aliases noted, prompting speculation about cheaters’ digital habits.

  • Quote (B, 02:52): "If I remember correctly, Tiger Woods did something similar. Didn't he have the names stored under different names in his phone?"

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2. Listener Stories: How Affairs Get Hidden (and Discovered)

a. Digital Deception: Phones, Emails, & Deleted Histories

• Red Flag: Deleted Messages & Call History

  • Quote (C, 03:26): "If you use your partner's phone... and there's zero messages—like all the old calls—and if there's a weird habit of deleting, like, I can't remember the last time that I deleted something from my phone... that's suspicious."
  • Quote (A, 03:58): "To go in there and delete like a called number or something like, I would never do that."

• Secret Email Accounts

  • Caller Linda (D, 04:11): "I would make a separate email account... something my husband wouldn’t know."
  • Insight: Hosts debate how to discover such accounts, suggesting checking browser history or spyware.

• Hidden Blogs for Communication

  • Innovation: Some cheaters communicate by leaving unpublished blog drafts for each other.
  • Quote (B, 04:58): "The couple who is having the affair created a blog that they never published... Instead of emailing, they update the blog back and forth in draft mode."

b. The Fake Friend Alibi

• Inventing a Friend to Cover Absences
  • Caller Megan (D, 05:31): "A major thing they need to watch out for is the best friend they've never heard of... Ann is actually the other man that you’re cheating on them with."
  • Memorable Confession (06:00): "Yes, I did it. Ann was actually a guy."

c. Alias Contacts in Phones

• Using Work Contacts as Covers
  • Caller Liza (D, 06:47): "My husband... had his ex-girlfriend under a fake name in his phone... I saw because it was a guy’s name and he was texting 'I love you.'"
  • Work Place Cover-Ups: Using the names of real coworkers as a front for affair partners.

d. Reluctance to Share Phones

• Red Flag: Extreme Phone Privacy
  • Caller Shania (D, 09:36): "He took [his cell phone] everywhere with him. He never let it out of his sight... always texting, but wouldn’t say who to."
  • Host (A, 10:12): "If they don’t put their phone down, even on the dresser, then that’s a big clue."
  • Scenario: Host recounts witnessing someone refusing to lend their phone to their spouse, raising suspicion (10:17–10:51).

e. P.O. Boxes and Billing Tricks

• Diverting Paper Trails
  • Caller Taylor (D, 11:05): "The guy that she's having an affair with has a P.O. box... all of his credit card bills and his other cell phone bills go to the P.O. box. So the wife never gets any of the mail to show he's got a second cell phone."
  • Insight (C, 12:05): "The P.O. Box thing... if there are no bills coming to the house...she isn't aware and doesn’t have access."

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3. Emotional Fallout & Host Reactions

• Shock at Calm Reactions:

  • Quote (B, 07:27): "You seem oddly in a good mood for someone who busted their husband cheating."
  • Caller Liza (D, 07:32): "I'm an extremely peppy person."
  • Hosts' skepticism and banter (07:32–07:55): “Yeah, you say peppy, I hear crazy, right?"

• Gender Differences in Cheating & Catching

  • Quote (C, 06:30): "Guys aren’t going to call themselves out and you all have this weird guy code crap."
  • Quote (B, 12:17): "The good thing women have going for you...is guys will slip up. Guys are one, not super bright, and two, kind of lazy."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Secret Communication:
  • (B, 04:58): "The couple...created a blog that they never published...they would just go in and update the blog back and forth and then delete the last draft."
• On Catching Lies:
  • (A, 10:12): "If they don’t put their phone down, even on the dresser, then that’s a big clue."
• On Emotional Fortitude:
  • (B, 07:27): "You seem oddly in a good mood for someone who busted their husband cheating..."
  • (D, 07:32): "I’m an extremely peppy person."
• On Gender and Cheating:
  • (C, 06:30): "Guys aren’t going to call themselves out and you all have this weird guy code crap."
  • (B, 12:17): "The good thing women have going for you...guys will slip up...not super bright and...kind of lazy."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:41 | Discussion of Rielle Hunter, John Edwards affair, and tricks with secret phones | | 02:52 | Tiger Woods' use of aliases for affair partners in his phone | | 03:26 | Hosts outline signs like deleted call histories | | 04:09 | Caller Linda discusses the use of secret email accounts | | 04:51 | Hidden blog drafts as an affair communication tool | | 05:31 | Caller Megan describes inventing a fake friend as an alibi | | 06:47 | Caller Liza reveals contact aliases and accidentally discovering emails | | 07:27 | Liza’s “peppy” reaction to catching her husband cheating | | 08:30 | Caller Linda recounts using coworker aliases to cover up calls | | 09:36 | Caller Shania on red flags: partner never leaves their phone unattended | | 11:05 | Caller Taylor explains the P.O. Box trick for hiding bills and second phone numbers | | 12:17 | Hosts joke about men being easy to catch due to carelessness |

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Takeaways & Tone

• The Bert Show fuses serious advice for suspicious partners with their trademark playful banter.
• The creative—and often risky—methods people use to hide affairs are as surprising as the ways they slip up.
• The show’s honesty and listener stories give a real-world edge to a topic often dramatized in media.

If you want to spot infidelity, watch for excessive secrecy, strange phone habits, unconvincing best friends, and trails leading to hidden emails or bills. Most importantly, as one host puts it:

"Guys will slip up... not super bright, and kind of lazy." (B, 12:17)

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For more on this topic (and plenty of laughs), check out this episode of The Bert Show!

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[A]

John Hunter.

[B]

Hunter Reell Hunter woman. She is the other woman. She is the other woman in John Edwards marriage. John Edwards is the politician who he

[C]

ran for president and of course his wife Elizabeth Edwards battling cancer and they've been in the news because Riel Hunter had a child. John Edwards denied that was his child and then finally came forward and said yes, it is my child. And then GQ magazine did an interview with Rael Hunter and it came out yesterday. And God, what a witch.

[B]

One of the things and what we want to focus on here, and our Telephone number is 404741Q100. But one of the things that Re Al Hunter said in the interview is that in order to hide their relationship and in order to hide their affair, real purchased for John Edwards and a cell phone that is identical to the one he normally carries. So there's two identical cell phones. She would be the only one to contact him on one number. And then the other, you know, all his other running for president business, his wife, everybody else would contact him on that. That's what they use to hide their affair. If I remember correctly, Tiger woods did something similar.

[C]

Did he?

[B]

I think, yeah, I think. Didn't he have the names stored under different names in his phone?

[A]

Yeah, I think so, yes. But then eland, didn't she go through all the numbers and just basically call all the numbers that he had been texting?

[B]

Yeah. Our Telephone number is 404-741-Q100. If you have experience in this area as a public service to other couples, what should people be looking for in order to bust their partner having an affair?

[C]

Yeah, for the people like Elizabeth Edwards, what should she have been looking for in order to see what was going on?

[B]

Of the first calls that we'll probably get, because I think I remember us getting it before. But if you look at, if you use your partner's phone for some reason and there's zero messages in there, like all the old calls, and if there's a weird habit of deleting, like I can't remember the last time that I deleted something from my phone, like a phone number, you know, like I'll delete text messages and stuff.

[C]

As I read it, I do text messages because my text messages are almost like a to do list, right? You know what I mean? Like, and once I've responded or whatever, I just go ahead and delete it. So.

[B]

But to go in there and delete like a called number or something like, I would never do that.

[C]

Now, my call history and stuff.

[B]

No voice disguiser for Linda. Hey, Linda, how are you?

[D]

Fine.

[B]

What's going on?

[D]

I would make a separate email account, like a separate address like on Yahoo or Hotmail, something that my husband wouldn't know.

[B]

I remember that. You know, I mean, that seems, that's easy. Seems obvious one of the first steps. But birds.

[C]

How do you bust the other email address, though? You know what I mean? Like, how would you look for it?

[A]

The history on Computers, though, you go through that or there's like, spyware programs you can put on computers now. Passwords.

[B]

I remember. I think it was Bert who either read something or knows somebody who did this. But you know the blogging platforms like WordPress and Blogger and all that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The couple who is having the affair created a blog that they never published.

[C]

Yeah. And it was drafts. And they would do drafts. They could each go into the account and see the drafts.

[B]

So if I'm having a relationship with Melissa and we don't want anyone to know about it.

[C]

Shh. Don't tell anybody.

[B]

Which wouldn't happen because if I'm having a relationship with Melissa, I'm taking ads out. But then what would happen is Melissa and I would each would create a blog, and instead of emailing each other, we would just go in and update the blog back and forth and then

[A]

delete the last draft.

[B]

And who's going to look for that?

[C]

Right.

[B]

Hey, Megan. Also in the voice disguiser.

[D]

Yeah. A major thing they need to watch out for is the best friend that they've never heard of. For instance, I'm going to Ann's house on Friday, and I'm staying the night. And then you end up staying with Ann on Saturday. And then the next Thursday, you stay with Ann, and the next Friday you stay with Ann, and they've never met Ann, and Ann is actually the other man that you're cheating on them with.

[C]

So you create a whole new friend to cover for the boyfriend.

[A]

Have you done that?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

I assume her name was Ann.

[D]

Yeah, his name was Ann.

[B]

And how did you end up getting busted?

[D]

I ended up busting myself. The relationship was, quote, unquote, Ann developed into something much more than the relationship I was in. So I just came clean and got out. But he had no idea what was going on? None whatsoever.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

I find it interesting that all the calls we're getting are from women. Hey, Liza.

[C]

Guys aren't gonna call themselves out and you all have this weird guy code crap.

[B]

And plus, guys don't think of anything.

[C]

They can't hide.

[A]

They're not very good at it.

[B]

Hey, I'm gonna call you Mel instead of Melissa. Hey, Liza, what's going on?

[D]

Hi. So my husband, he. When we first got married, we still had a thing with his ex girlfriend and had her under a fake name in his phone and was texting her. And I saw it because it was a guy's name and he was like texting this guy, I love you. So it ended up being his ex girlfriend. And then Recently, I found out he had checked his email on my computer when we were on vacation and left it up. And then when I went to go use my computer, I found all these emails from the last year of our marriage that they've been having this thing. He just forgetfully, forgetfully left his email up on my laptop.

[B]

You seem oddly in a good mood for someone who busted their husband cheating trailer recently.

[D]

I'm an extremely peppy person.

[A]

Ooh, that was a crazy laugh.

[B]

Yeah, you say peppy, I hear crazy, right? Are you guys still together?

[D]

We are getting divorced.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Are you guys still living together?

[D]

Yes. I'm about to move out.

[B]

Okay. So is there any chance he can recover from this, or is he done?

[D]

We're just holding on to the friendship we have. I don't think I can. A year is a long time to be cheating on somebody.

[C]

I couldn't put up with that.

[B]

You're a better person than I am.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I would have been a long time ago.

[B]

Yeah. If I'm in a relationship with somebody and they're cheating on me for a year, there are no friendship left to hold on to.

[C]

No.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

She's puppy Jeff.

[B]

Okay, that makes sense. All right, thanks for the call, Isaac. Definitely going to kill him in a sleep. Hey, Linda. Welcome to the show.

[D]

Hi.

[B]

What's going on?

[D]

Well, my ex wasn't that clever, but it fooled me for quite a while. He just used people that I. He actually worked with. And it would come up Jeff so and so. And he'd say, oh, it's a work call. I gotta go take it.

[C]

I bet that's common.

[B]

Were they legitimate work people?

[D]

Yeah, it was a legitimate work person, but it wasn't that person. He would have. Jeff would be actually the work person. But Jeff t. Was his girlfriend.

[B]

See, the thing that would. That I would be worried about with that is like, let's say that I did that, and I'm like, oh, it's Wendy calling. I gotta go take the call. Right? And then, so I go out and have the conversation. I come back and I was like, oh, yeah, she's can't do traffic tomorrow and just wanted to let me know. So then next time.

[C]

Well, she comes on and does traffic the next morning, Jessica's like, or what

[B]

if they run into each other? Like, oh, yeah, the other night when you called Jeff to ask him about the whatever. And Wendy's like, what? The other night I was in Texas visiting my family. What are you talking about? Like, guys are dumb. Hey, Shania.

[D]

Hi. How are you?

[B]

What's going on?

[C]

Good.

[D]

I just want to let you know, I dated my ex for 15 months, and of those months, he cheated on me for seven of those.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

And he used a cell phone, and he took it everywhere with him. He never let it out of his sight. He was always texting, texting, texting on it. And he wouldn't tell me who he was texting. And. And I'm a very trusting person, so I just kind of believed him that I was his guy friend. And it ended up being this girl that we worked with. So I would say if he's not letting you go through his phone. I mean, not go through his phone, but if he's not letting his phone out of his sight, it's probably a red flag.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If they don't put their phone down, even on the dresser, then that's a big clue.

[B]

I did have a weird experience when I was around someone. Fairly recently, around acquaintances. We were all sitting at a table, and the wife asked the husband to use his phone, and he said she couldn't use it because he was waiting for an important call. And she ended up having to use my phone to call. Like, she had left. She wanted to call and check her voicemail, and she didn't have her phone. She had left her phone at home. Her battery died or something, and people were coming to meet them or something.

[C]

Because even if you're checking something, the phone will come through. And you say, oh, well, here.

[B]

Right. You ever heard of call waiting? Right. And so when he didn't give her the phone, I was like, there's some weird red flag. Something shady, definitely. Hey, Taylor. Welcome to the bird show.

[D]

Hi.

[B]

What's going on?

[D]

I have a friend that is having an affair right now. They work together, and the way that they hide it from everybody is the guy that she's having an affair with has a P.O. box. Okay. So all of his credit card bills that they use together and his other cell phone bills go to the P.O. box. So the wife never gets any of the mail to show that he's got a second cell phone.

[B]

Now, how. How do you know about this?

[D]

Because I'm the really good friend to the guy. No, no, no. The girl.

[C]

So she.

[B]

No. She's the friend of the girl that the guy has the relationship with?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

You're the other woman.

[B]

No, she's friends with the other woman.

[C]

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[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

So it's very sneaky, and it's surprising how they can come up with ways to cover their tracks.

[C]

Well, I mean, you know. Yeah. The P.O. box thing. If she doesn't know about it. Yeah. And if there's no bills coming to the house and she is not aware the PO boxer doesn't have access to it.

[D]

That.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The good thing that women you have going for you, at least with guys, is guys will slip up. Guys are one, not super bright and two, kind of lazy. So something will happen eventually for the most part. John Edwards did it. He screwed up.

[C]

Yeah. I just don't know if I'd help

[A]

a friend out in that situation.

[C]

Yeah. Like you. Yeah, that. You should feel better. Good friend of the mistress.

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