The Bert Show: Vault – Interview With Destiny's Child
Aired: October 29, 2025
Host: The Bert Show (Bert, co-hosts, produced by Pionaire Podcasting)
Guests: Kelly Rowland & Michelle Williams of Destiny's Child
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This throwback episode from The Bert Show vault features an engaging interview with Destiny's Child members Kelly Rowland and Michelle Williams. Addressing both the group's dynamic and personal philosophies, the conversation covers gratitude, growth, forgiveness, solo projects, and the mythos surrounding the group’s supposed breakup. The interview radiates authenticity, warmth, and humor—punctuated by memorable moments, heartfelt advice, and even an acapella rendition of “Survivor.”
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Living With Purpose and Gratitude
- [02:27-03:15] Bert initiates a deep conversation about personal fulfillment, asking Michelle if she feels content with her life.
- Michelle: Expresses gratitude for everyday blessings, not just career achievements.
- “I was actually thankful, and I prayed this prayer. ... I had, you know, the activities of all my limbs. I was in my right mind. I wasn’t in the hospital somewhere. ... We tend, you know, to take life for granted, you know, and life can be taken away from you.” (Michelle, [02:42])
- Michelle: Expresses gratitude for everyday blessings, not just career achievements.
2. Navigating the Demands of Fame
- [03:15-03:44] Discussion of their busy schedules and simple joys.
- Both Kelly & Michelle: Acknowledge a hectic lifestyle but cherish downtime, e.g., relaxing at Dave & Buster’s or sharing pancakes.
- “We like to sleep sometimes. ... We like to just hang out at Dave and Busters right quick. ... We like to just sit down all day at night.” (Michelle and Kelly, [03:32-03:44])
- Both Kelly & Michelle: Acknowledge a hectic lifestyle but cherish downtime, e.g., relaxing at Dave & Buster’s or sharing pancakes.
3. Coping With Past Challenges and Forgiveness
- [04:01-05:11] Bert asks about events that were hard to let go.
- Kelly: Shares about growing up without her father and learning forgiveness.
- “I guess the fact that my father wasn’t really in my life and that he didn’t help my mom, I was really mad at him for that. But you have to learn to forgive, because God has blessed you with so many other things...” (Kelly, [04:17])
- Michelle: Stresses the need to forgive to avoid bitterness.
- “If you don’t let them go, then you become evil and bitter. ... If you don’t forgive them for real, you will still be bitter and you will still resent that person...” (Michelle, [04:38])
- Kelly: Shares about growing up without her father and learning forgiveness.
4. The Official Autobiography—Soul Survivors
- [05:11-05:24] The group references their new book, "Soul Survivors: The Official Autobiography of Destiny’s Child," discussing how it covers their personal stories and growth.
5. Iconic "Survivor" Sing-Along
- [05:24-06:06] In a lighthearted moment, the hosts request an impromptu sing-along of “Survivor” to lift Bert’s spirits.
- “I'm a survivor.” (Kelly & Bert, [05:50])
- “Don’t worry.” (Michelle, [05:56])
- “I feel so much better. I do. It worked. Everything in my life is great.” (Bert, [05:57])
6. Personal Growth and Life Changes
- [06:06-06:28] The conversation turns to self-care and reevaluation.
- “That comes with growth, though. ... Sometimes we just sit back and be, like, right. Like, some things you just want to, like, reconstruct in your life. But, hey, you doing it, bro.” (Kelly, [06:17])
7. Kelly Rowland's Roots and Atlanta Memories
- [06:35-07:13] Kelly reminisces about her Atlanta upbringing and her mother’s work.
- “I remember growing up in Decatur, Georgia, and my mom had a job because she worked as a nanny over on the north side...I remember us moving ... to Texas and meeting the group and having so much fun, and my life has been wonderful ever since.” (Kelly, [06:43, 06:55])
8. Solo Projects & Destiny’s Child Dynamics
- [07:13-08:21] Open conversation about solo plans and rumors.
- Michelle: Addresses rumors that solo projects might signal the group’s split.
- “We’re just blessed that all three of us, you know, have strong talents and personalities and we’re secure…Beyonce and Kelly support me. I support them... We got nothing but love for each other because we just trying to do it.” (Michelle, [07:31, 07:43])
- Kelly: Shares her solo project is beginning soon.
- “I’m gonna start on my project. ... I do one song before we go to Europe, and then I come back and finish recording the rest of it.” (Kelly, [08:12])
- Michelle: Addresses rumors that solo projects might signal the group’s split.
9. Closing—More “Survivor,” Mutual Support, and Farewells
- [08:21-08:54] The group and Bert share another short “Survivor” sing-along, with playful suggestions Bert could join them on stage in Atlanta.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On gratitude:
- “We tend, you know, to take life for granted... and life can be taken away from you.” (Michelle, [02:42])
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On forgiveness:
- “You have to learn to forgive, because God has blessed you with so many other things in your life that you can’t just focus on one thing so it can hold you back.” (Kelly, [04:17])
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On group dynamics:
- “We got nothing but love for each other because we just trying to do it, and we trying to make it. We want to be large, you know, And I think that these solo projects will definitely help us grow.” (Michelle, [07:43])
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Fun moment:
- “I'm a survivor.” (Kelly & Bert, [05:50])
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Playful camaraderie:
- “Don’t be surprised if we pull you up there.” (Kelly, [08:50])
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 02:27 – Discussion on personal fulfillment (Michelle)
- 03:15 – Managing fame vs. personal life
- 04:01 – Letting go of the past and forgiveness (Kelly)
- 05:11 – Reference to “Soul Survivors” book
- 05:24 – First “Survivor” sing-along
- 06:17 – Growth and self-reflection (Kelly)
- 06:43 – Kelly’s Atlanta memories
- 07:13 – Addressing solo careers and group support (Michelle)
- 08:21 – Closing sing-along and farewells
Tone & Style
The conversation balances sincere introspection with lighthearted, candid camaraderie. The hosts probe thoughtfully but keep the mood uplifting, while Kelly and Michelle respond with both vulnerability and wit. Mutual respect and friendship permeate the discussion, making it relatable and inspiring.
Summary:
This “Vault” interview with Destiny’s Child on The Bert Show captures the group’s spirit at a pivotal time—deconstructing breakup rumors, reflecting on gratitude and challenges, and reveling in a sisterly bond. The episode is both a celebration of successes and an honest look at personal growth, dotted with memorable music and laughter.
