Vault: Is Her Husband Lying About Calling Escorts?!

Summary

The Bert Show – Vault: Is Her Husband Lying About Calling Escorts?!

Original Air Date: February 2, 2026
Podcast: The Bert Show (Pionaire Podcasting)
Participants: Bert, multiple co-hosts, Judy (caller), Jennifer (caller)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers around Judy, a listener who suspects her husband of infidelity. Judy recounts her recent discoveries of flirtatious emails, unexplained strip club receipts, and repeated calls to escort services across multiple cities. Frustrated by his denials and improbable excuses, Judy seeks the Bert Show team's guidance—and their characteristic lie detector—to find “100% proof.” The conversation balances empathy, humor, and direct advice as the hosts and other callers discuss Judy’s marriage, the evidence, and the difficult decisions she faces.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Judy's Suspicion and Investigation

• Marriage Background: Judy and her husband have been married for three and a half years. He travels frequently for work.
• Flirtatious Emails: Judy found emails her husband sent to another woman. The emails were flirty, suggested meeting up, and included his phone number.
  • Judy: “One [email] said, hey, you know, call me. Gave a cell phone number. The other one said, call the woman sexy, and said, we should get together sometime.” (00:37)
• Husband’s Excuse: Husband claims the emails were a prank by a friend using his computer, which Judy does not believe.

2. Strip Club Receipts and Social Context

• Judy discovered receipts for strip clubs her husband didn't tell her about.
  • Judy: “He admitted he had gone to the strip clubs. Didn’t tell me. Had no clue.” (01:51)
• Timing and Group Size: The hosts debate what level of strip club activity is “incriminating.”
  • Host: “If the receipt is for 1:30 in the morning on a Friday or Saturday night, acceptable. If it’s for 11:30 or noon during the week, then you might have a problem.” (02:19)
• Odd Company: Further suspicion arises because her husband never took her to a strip club and sometimes went with a co-worker’s wife—a situation described as odd by the hosts and Judy herself.

3. Phone Records and Escort Services

• Judy found calls to escort services in three different cities.
  • Judy: “Well, I kept digging, started going through the phone record, and started finding some weird numbers at, you know, at night..." (03:59)
• Husband’s Excuse: Her husband says these calls were made for laughs, as part of a game with his friend—calling 10 escort services in one night.
  • Host: “Your husband has quite a sense of humor.” (04:48)
  • Bert: “Is your husband 16?” (04:53)
• Skepticism about Volume of Calls: The hosts mock the idea of “comparison shopping” for escorts, noting that making so many calls is suspicious.
  • Bert: “I can understand making maybe one or two phone calls... But when you’re on phone call number seven, like, what are you getting?” (05:19)

4. Emotional Impact and Clinging to Hope

• Judy expresses doubt but also a strong hope that her husband is telling the truth.
  • Judy: “I have that shred of hope. I love my husband and I just…I want him to be telling the truth.” (07:09)
• The hosts press Judy on whether she would accept his denials even with concrete proof from a lie detector.

5. Advice from the Hosts and Other Callers

• Perspective Flip: Hosts ask Judy what she’d say to a friend in her situation.
  • Judy: “I’d tell my friend to get the hell out.” (08:28)
• Caller Testimony: Jennifer, another caller, shares her own heartbreak from ignoring clear signs of infidelity.
  • Jennifer: “…Sweetheart, you have all the evidence in front of you. Don’t do like I did. I’m now having a child with him, and he’s gone.” (09:38)
• Hosts and callers consistently advise that Judy already has enough evidence, and a lie detector will not change her reality.

6. Marriage Counseling and Decisions Ahead

• Marriage Counseling: Judy and her husband have begun counseling, and the possibility of a lie detector test was discussed, but her husband resists.
  • Judy: “…The counselor said, whatever she needs you to do to prove you need to do it. A lie detector was mentioned, and he said that he wasn’t really crazy about it.” (10:12)
• Decisional Crossroads: The hosts stress that Judy needs to decide what she will do with the truth—leave or stay. They note that many women stay despite overwhelming evidence.
  • Caller/Commentator 1: “I just think you have to figure out what you’re gonna do with the news regardless.” (11:46)

7. Children and Family Dynamics

• Judy shares that they have a two-year-old together and two other children in the family.
  • Judy: “We have one child together. We have a two-year-old together. And… I have two other children.” (08:59)
• She describes her husband as a wonderful father and partner in every other respect, which complicates her decision.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Ridiculousness of the Excuses:

  • Bert: “Is your husband 16?” (04:53)
  • Host: “Your husband has quite a sense of humor.” (04:48)

• On Self-Deception vs. 100% Proof:

  • Host: “If a friend of yours was coming to you with the exact same examples… what would you say to your friend?”

  • Judy: “I’d tell my friend to get the hell out.” (08:28)

  • Jennifer (caller): “Don’t do like I did. I’m now having a child with him, and he’s gone. He flat out is making excuses for everything, and I’ve caught him for everything he’s done. You don’t need a lie detector…” (09:38)

• On the Lie Detector:

  • Host: “But I think you already know what the results are gonna be. I don’t think it’s gonna be shocking. I’d be more shocked…if he passed.” (12:33)
  • Judy: “I just want the 100% truth.” (12:47)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Judy introduces her husband’s suspicious behavior – 00:09
• Discovery and confrontation about flirty emails – 00:37
• Strip club receipt revelations – 01:36
• Debate: group vs. solo strip club visits – 02:31
• Analysis of phone records and escort calls – 03:59
• Discussion of dubious husband excuses – 04:36
• Judy’s emotional struggle, hope, and doubt – 07:09
• Hosts flip perspective: “What would you tell a friend?” – 08:28
• Caller Jennifer’s cautionary tale – 09:07
• Discussion of counseling & the lie detector – 10:08
• Deliberation: staying vs. leaving – 11:46

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Tone & Style

Throughout, the hosts maintain their trademark balance of wit and real talk—mixing humor, empathy, and blunt advice. Judy’s vulnerability is treated with care, and the group’s honest banter brings levity to a tough subject. The episode shows the cast’s chemistry and willingness to tackle complex emotional issues with authenticity and humor.

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Summary

This episode encapsulates the Bert Show’s approach to listener relationship drama: providing a supportive space, uncompromising honesty, and a heavy dose of down-to-earth humor. Judy’s story is a cautionary tale about trusting your intuition, the limits of proof in relationships, and the emotional complexity of betrayal—particularly when children are involved. While a lie detector is promised as a next step, the consensus is clear: Judy already knows the truth, and the challenge now is deciding what to do with it.

Transcript

[Bert]

The Bird Show.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Hey, Judy, you're on Q100.

[Judy]

Good morning.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Good morning. How are you?

[Judy]

Good. How are you this morning?

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

All right, so you wanna. You wanna fire up the lie detector?

[Judy]

I do, I do. I have found out some things recently about my husband that I'm not too happy about and, you know, confronted him about him. And of course, he didn't do anything wrong and hasn't done it. And so I want to put him on the lie detector test and see if I can find out the truth.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Okay. How long have you been married?

[Judy]

We've been married for three and a half years now.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Three and a half years. All right, what have you found and when did you start finding it?

[Judy]

Well, about three weeks ago. He travels for his work every week. And about three weeks ago, there are two particular nights that he didn't answer his phone. And so then I decided, well, I'm just going to check his email. So I checked his email, and in his email, I had found some emails that he had sent to a woman that were very flirty. One of them said, hey, you know, call me. Gave a cell phone number. The other one said, call the woman sexy, and said, we should get together sometime. So I confronted him about those and he said, oh, it must have been his friend on his computer playing around. Okay, all right, you know, keep looking, keep looking.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

Did you believe that?

[Judy]

No.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Did you call him out on it? Did you say, you're gonna have to do better than that? Yeah. Just to respect our marriage and to respect me as a woman and my intelligence. What else do you have?

[Judy]

Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, he stuck to a story. He got home, we talked about it some more, and I started digging some more. Found some receipts for strip clubs.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Okay.

[Judy]

Okay. Admitted he had gone to the strip clubs. Didn't tell me. Had no clue. So he's going to strip clubs when he's out of town with his friend that he works with.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Okay, let me stop you there for a second, because I have this theory about strip clubs that just being at the strip club itself, that's not incriminating. The time that you're at the strip club may say more about the person than the actual strip club appearance. Like, if you're at. If. If the receipt is for 1:30 in the morning on a Friday or Saturday night, acceptable. If it's for 11:30 or noon during the week, then you might have a problem.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Right.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

So did you check the time?

[Judy]

No, I don't know the time. I don't know when it was, and I don't know, not what night it was either.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

I would also say check the tab. Like, how much has been charged and if you were there alone or with a group of people. Because to me, a group of guys going to a strip club, all having a good time, whatever.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Yeah.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

You're going by yourself for a long, extended period of time, starting at noon.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Problems?

[Bert]

What is the acceptable. A small sidebar that might pertain to her research as she does it. Bert, what's the acceptable number of people to go to a strip club? Because I almost think it's as weird to go with one other guy.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

I was going to say three, which.

[Bert]

Is to go alone.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

This would be a group.

[Bert]

Like, if I said to Bert, hey, you want to have lunch today? Let's get on to. Let's get on. What is it? Aluva. Cheetah, Aluve.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Is that the name of the restaurant?

[Bert]

Let's go down to Aluva.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Just you and I.

[Bert]

That's weird.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

I think so. Yeah. This. It would have to be at least three of us.

[Judy]

Yeah, that's what he's doing. He's going with one of the people that he travels with.

[Bert]

That's weird.

[Judy]

However, one of the times that he went, he went with that man and the man's wife.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

On the wife. Okay.

[Judy]

Keep in mind, he's never taken me to a strip club.

[Bert]

I declare shenanigans.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

Well, let me.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Well, let me also ask a question. So he. He travels with this guy, and the guy's wife was on the business trip, too.

[Judy]

Correct.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

And he doesn't take you on the business trip. Okay.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Okay, so we got history here. Now, strip clubs. We got you going online. Him. Him using language that he should probably only be using on you, but he had a good excuse. In that case. What else?

[Judy]

Well, I kept digging, started going through the phone record, and started finding some weird numbers at, you know, at night. And of course, you know, I'm here at home. He's traveling. He calls me, tells me good night. He loves me. And looking at the phone records, well, he wasn't going to bed. He was calling some local numbers. I started calling the local numbers, and there were escort services, and I have found escort services in three. Three different cities that he has visited that he called.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

And when you confronted him on that.

[Judy]

He said, well, the first one I found there was probably about 10 different escort services in one night. Me and my friend were playing. We were seeing who could get to keep this deal.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Your husband has quite a sense of humor. Yeah.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Your husband's scamming them.

[Bert]

All.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Yeah. Is your husband 16?

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Right.

[Bert]

I gotta be honest with you. Like, it's weird to comparison shop that much.

[Judy]

Oh, yeah.

[Bert]

I was like 10 phone calls.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

I've never shopped around for that kind of thing. I bet you could just. We could get it all hooked up with Clark Howard. He knows, right?

[Jennifer]

Yeah.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Right.

[Bert]

I just go to his website.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

I'm sure he would know he's got.

[Bert]

The cheapest escort, but I just, I find.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Is that something you want to skimp on, though?

[Bert]

That's what I'm saying. Like I can understand. Like I can understand making maybe one or two phone calls.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

I don't want the generic brand.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Yeah.

[Bert]

To make sure that you're not, you know, like if you call the first one, they're like, what, $1,000 an hour? Like you might call the.

[Judy]

You can find them anywhere between 250 and 500 an hour.

[Bert]

Right. And then you make one more phone call to make sure that the first one wasn't like way crazy. But then when you're on phone call number seven, like, what are you getting? So you get some one legged person coming in there who may or may not have a penis.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

So you asked, or you. When you.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

And this is more than one city, she said, yeah.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

So you call and you got all this information from all these escort services.

[Judy]

Well, of course, the escort services aren't too friendly to me. They don't want to talk to me.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Sure.

[Judy]

When I call, I just know that their escort services. And of course, when you reverse look at the phone number on the Internet, it tells you, you know, nine times out of 10, the name of the escort service.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

I wonder.

[Bert]

It would be fascinating to talk to the people who answer the phone at those escort services. And how many calls they get from women that they know are fishing around.

[Judy]

I don't know. But they start not to speak English.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Is that right? Like, midway through the conversation.

[Bert]

I freaking hate that.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

So how. How many cities are we talking about here right now?

[Judy]

I have three.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Three different cities. And he claims that he goes to three different cities with the same guy and they. This is their inside joke, that every time they're in a new city, they just call escort services.

[Judy]

No, he said he only did that in one city. The other two cities, he was just.

[Bert]

Bored, I gotta be honest with you.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

What are you doing? Like, I'm just sitting here listening to all this stacking up. Like, what? I mean, what.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Why do you need the lie detector?

[Caller/Commentator 1]

What are you doing? I mean, you know, right.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

In a case like this, do you.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

Have any Shred of hope that he's.

[Judy]

I do. I have that shred of hope. I love my husband and I just. I want him to be telling the truth and for him just to say, okay, well, I wasn't. I didn't feel like you loved me, so I was playing around, but I never did anything. That's what I'm looking for.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

And would you believe that story.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

If.

[Judy]

On a lie detector test?

[Bert]

Yeah, I was gonna say if he.

[Judy]

Passed the lie detector, but right now, no. I'm having a real hard time with it.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

I bet. Now his. So his job, is it pretty prominent job where he's traveling? Because there's a part of me that. I mean, if you really want to make this work, things have to change. You really think.

[Judy]

And they have. And he has quit traveling because I told him that ain't gonna work like that. But, you know, here I am, I'm trying to move forward and get over it, but I've become obsessed with checking on what he's doing.

[Bert]

How long ago was the last trip where you found this stuff?

[Judy]

About three weeks ago.

[Bert]

Oh, so he's quit traveling?

[Judy]

Yes.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Since then.

[Bert]

Since then.

[Judy]

Correct.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Like when a case like this is so obvious to the rest of us. What we'd like to do is ask you if a friend of yours was coming to you with the exact same examples that you're giving today, the same facts, what would you say to your friend?

[Judy]

I'd tell my friend to get the hell out.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Okay.

[Judy]

She's crazy. If she believed him. That's exactly what I'd say.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

But you want 100% proof? Well, she's a lie detector.

[Judy]

He's never lied to me before. Never.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Yes, he has.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

That, you know.

[Judy]

Of course, until I found out these past three weeks. So we're looking at a three and a half year history of no lying.

[Bert]

No lying that you've caught.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Let's just stick to what we know.

[Bert]

I'm just saying.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

Do you guys have kids?

[Judy]

Yes.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

How many?

[Judy]

We have one child together. We have a two year old together. And we have two other. Or I have two other children.

[Bert]

All right.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Hey, Jennifer, you're on Q100. Good morning.

[Jennifer]

Hey, I just have the biggest piece of advice I just went through this past weekend. I'm engaged to someone. I'm 10 weeks pregnant. And the same thing started happening to me. Phone calls and things like that. Being sneaky. He didn't want me to see his phone. And he's the most upstanding guy in our community. Sheriff's deputy. He's Great. Wonderful. And he lies. No, nothing's going on. You don't trust me. Sweetheart, you have all the evidence in front of you. Don't do like I did. I'm now having a child with him, and he's gone. He flat out is making excuses for everything, and I've caught him for everything he's done. You don't need a lie detector to take the advice that you gave your friend because all you're doing is causing yourself heartache.

[Judy]

Don't do it.

[Jennifer]

I mean, I'm miserable now.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

I'm sorry.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Is it because the kids? Judy?

[Judy]

Well, you know what? I love him. My kids love him. He's a wonderful dad. He's a wonderful stepdad. I mean, he's amazing. In every other aspect of our life, he's amazing.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Does he know that you want to put him on a lie detector?

[Judy]

Yes. Well, we've discussed it. We have started going to marriage counseling. And, you know, the counselor said, whatever she needs you to do to prove you need to do it. A lie detector was mentioned, and he said that he wasn't really crazy about it. He did not want to do one. He wanted me to do research online detectors and find out how accurate they were. And he's not crazy about it. So I don't know if he'll do it or not.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Well, I mean, I can certainly call him today and try. I don't know if you want to warn him that it's coming or it's not. And then after you get the results, you guys can debate, you know, the accuracy of the results and stuff like that, but according to this website, it's pretty accurate. It's really accurate.

[Bert]

And they'll give you percentages. Like, it's a number thing, too. It's not like, oh, maybe he is, or maybe he isn't. Like, it'll say 90% dishonest or 90% honest.

[Judy]

Right.

[Bert]

I'm sure he is.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

So if you. If you want me to make the call today, I'll make it. You sure?

[Judy]

I mean, there's. There's nothing. There's nothing to lose at this point. I just.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Well, I think, you know, my. The thought that's going through my mind is the only way marriage counseling is going to work is everybody's honest in that session.

[Judy]

Correct. Right. And that's my thing. I want to know the truth.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

But I think you already know what the results are gonna be. I don't think it's gonna be shocking. I'd be more shocked. Wouldn't you be more shocked if he passed.

[Judy]

I would.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

In a case like this, for sure, I would.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

I just think you have to figure out what you're gonna do with the news regardless. Like, are you gonna stay anyway and figure it out, which a lot of women do.

[Judy]

Right.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

Or are you going to completely walk out the door if you find out that he's not been telling you the truth? Because I think you know what the answer is going to be. You just have to decide what that means for you.

[Judy]

Right. Exactly.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

You know, and, and, and what that means for your kids and all that kind of stuff. Because that changes things.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

You know, I'm assuming like your self defense mechanism has already kicked in. Like, I'm assuming that you've played this out in your mind already. That you having to split up assets, you having to take the channel children somewhere else. Because in your mind, you know the dude is lying to you. So at some point you must have played the scenario in your head.

[Judy]

Absolutely.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Yeah.

[Judy]

Absolutely. I thought about, okay, even if I get the truth, you know, can we work it out? Can we fix it?

[Caller/Commentator 1]

That's what you have to decide.

[Judy]

I don't.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

Before you find out the concrete.

[Judy]

Right.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

Evidence, you know?

[Judy]

Right. I just want the 100% truth.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

I mean, it's just so. Yeah. I'm so sorry. It's just the lying is not worth it. The going on the bags not worth it. I mean.

[Judy]

Right. I think I found out. It's so much. You know, it's like if I took him to court, as our counselor said, I could probably convict them from what I have right now. But she says his story is not going to change. That's obvious.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Okay. Let me put you on hold and I'll give him a call later on. Maybe I'll call you first and just get some more details and I'll call him later on today and I'll let him know he's on the, the lie detector. I don't know if you want to warn him or not, but he'll know and I'll tell him it's gonna be played on the radio also. I have to do that legally. And then I'll ask him a whole bunch of questions and we'll see how he does.

[Judy]

Okay.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

And like I said, in a case like this, I think we'll all be shocked if it comes out like he's not lying at all.

[Judy]

Right.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

I. Hold on. Okay.

[Judy]

Okay.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

All right.

[Bert]

Bye.

[Judy]

Bye.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

Yeah. I don't even know why she needs it.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

She doesn't.

[Bert]

She just needs 100% certainty. The worst thing that can happen is if we. If he's not lying at all, if it comes up, if he's able to lie his way through the lie detector, it's the worst possible thing that can happen because he's obviously doing it right.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

And if he somehow passes, then she'll always be reluctant.

[Bert]

She'll be like, oh, well, lie detector.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Said, well, I mean, anybody in this room, I mean, when you're in love with somebody, you give that. You will give them far more leeway. It's easiest for us to say, whatever, but she's got three children in this relationship and is still in love with him. But what I think is Cheetah has not even stomached is the fact that he's been doing this to her probably for three years.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

Well, I don't think she's leaving. That's why I kept pressing her on that. I don't think she's leaving. Even if she does find out, because she's already saying, he's an amazing dad, he's an amazing stepdad, he's amazing in every other part of our life. I think she's gonna swallow it and move on anyway. So why then get the solid proof? I mean, I don't wanna ruin our lie detector radio bitch.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

I agree with you.

[Caller/Commentator 1]

But why even go through with all, not hold on to that shred of hope if you're going to stay anyway? Once you have the concrete proof, she.

[Caller/Commentator 2]

Can, because she will always check the email, always check the phone, call that staying there. And you never do. Women, you never do.

[Host (Bird Show Host)]

I'll call her one last time today and just go, you sure you want to do this? We'll try it if you want, but we'll see the bird show.