Caller 4 (1:54)

Now I see where they're coming from.

Host (Burch) (1:56)

All right, let me read some of this to you. A man under an enormous amount of pressure is regularly and publicly emasculated and treated like dirt by his wife and seemingly seeks solace with another woman. Is it possible, maybe, just maybe, that the woman deserves to be cheated on? Then it goes on. Let me get the phone number out to you. 404-741-Q100 A woman named Susanna Breslin wrote a piece called Bad Wives and it really does fit the Jon Gosling and Kate situation. Like, to a T, anyone who has spent any time watching their show knows its subplot is their marriage. And the majority of that relationship seems to consist of Kate treating her husband like something that got stuck on the bottom of her shoe, the property of which she cannot quite identify. Eliciting a non stop look of thinly veiled disgust and disappointment. In fact, it's hard to think of moments in which the housewife is not humiliating, degrading and emasculating her husband, on camera, no less. In one episode, she actually chastised him for breathing too loudly. Did you see that one?

Caller 3 (3:12)

Yes, it was a highlight that they did.

Caller 4 (3:16)

Wow.

Caller 3 (3:17)

Like right after the marriage was ended. Of all of her finest moments, either in the house or sitting on that little love seat thing where they do their interview and she got mad at him because he exhaled loudly.

Caller 1 (3:28)

Wow.

Host (Burch) (3:28)

There she is in the supermarket ripping him a new one for being a lousy spouse. There she is at the pumpkin patch shouting at him for being a substandard father. There she is telling him to stop mumbling like a fool. There she is explaining to the camera that she doesn't want any, that she doesn't care what anyone else thinks. The CNN article continues and it says, gee, where was all the outrage when that was going on? Isn't that kind of behavior as damaging to a marriage as cheating? If people vow when they marry to stay faithful, to respect one another, shouldn't the vows be of equal importance? Why isn't Kate's face on the COVID of tabloids for breaking her vows?

Caller 2 (4:11)

Well, I disagree that she was not getting called out for that. It's just now that we've talked about this, their ratings have gone up like doubled since this whole affair has been publicized. But from this beginning of the show, she is not a popular character. So she has been called out by fans who've been watching the show for a long time for the way that she treated him.

Host (Burch) (4:34)

So I think the dudes that have been emailing me are saying, where's the equality in this whole thing? That if our women are pushing us and pushing us and pushing us and we cheat, how come we can't use that as the excuse when women have been using it for years?

Caller 4 (4:48)

Yeah, I think, I mean, it's an interesting take on it, especially that last part you read about the vows. I think it's really an interesting take on it because they would be as equally as important. I mean, if they're all in the same list, you know, like, you know, and her Demasculating him in public and, you know, sort of ridiculing him.

Host (Burch) (5:09)

Says the larger issue.

Caller 4 (5:10)

One of them.

Host (Burch) (5:11)

The larger issue is one of equality. If we're gonna point fingers at men behaving badly, we have to take a look at the woman's behavior that may provoke it. Most issues, especially those within a relationship, are rarely ever black and white with a clear cut victim and oppressor. People cheat for a variety of reasons, very few of which are strictly because they're horrible human beings.

Caller 2 (5:35)

I mean, cheating is just so complicated, though. I mean, the thought I keep thinking about is this. All this debate wouldn't happen if, you know, people had the ability to get out of the relationship first. But, I mean, it is. I mean, yeah, you need to treat each other well whether you're a man or a woman. So, I mean, I get where guys are like, wait a second now.

Weight Watchers Representative (5:54)

We.

Caller 2 (5:54)

Because there are men out there who cheat for, you know, seemingly superficial reasons, but for sport. Yeah. And I think that has been the reputation now. But, yeah, there are good guys out there. They're like, wait a second, we were not doing that. They.

Caller 4 (6:07)

We.

Caller 2 (6:07)

It was done to us, or we were pushed or whatever. So I see where they want equal sign.

Host (Burch) (6:11)

Hey, Alicia.

Alicia (6:13)

Hi.

Caller 1 (6:13)

How are y'?

Rodney (6:14)

All?

Caller 4 (6:14)

Good.

Host (Burch) (6:14)

Good morning. How are you?

Alicia (6:15)

Good, thanks. Pretty much. I'm totally against cheating. I always have been my whole life. I definitely don't think it's more right for a woman than it is for a man. I do think that he had a right to divorce her because how she treated him. She treated him like crap, pretty much. I watched her episodes, you know, every week, so. But I don't think that any excuse makes cheating understandable.

Host (Burch) (6:41)

Alicia, if you had a friend in your circle, right, and every day she was complaining to you about how much of an SOB her husband was, Right. He is spending too much money. He's controlling. He doesn't trust her. She has an allowance. He's constantly belittling her. This is going on for years and years and years, but she stays in the relationship. But then she ends up either falling in love or just having an affair with another dude. At some point, do you say to her, well, I certainly understand how that happened.

Alicia (7:11)

Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. Like, I understand where they're coming from, but I. My advice to that person would be, you should have got out, because by cheating, that now makes you just as bad as the other person.

Caller 1 (7:23)

Cool.

Host (Burch) (7:24)

Thank you.

Caller 1 (7:24)

You're welcome.

Host (Burch) (7:25)

Rodney, you're on Q100. Hi.

Rodney (7:27)

Hey. How you Guys doing okay. Hey, I gotta tell you, this comment runs deep. You have to go into the women's psyche just a little. I think that men. Paula was right. The men would have to take the high road and not cheat and get out of the relationship. Because if you cheat and then you get caught, it just in their minds, it solidifies all the things that they said were wrong about you in the beginning. So I think if you take the high road and you point out their faults and then you leave them because women do not like rejection, you leave them. I think it hurts more than if you cheat and then leave under those circumstances.

Host (Burch) (8:08)

Thank you, Rodney.

Rodney (8:09)

Thanks.

Host (Burch) (8:11)

Good morning. Q100.

Caller 1 (8:12)

Good morning.

Host (Burch) (8:13)

Hello.

Caller 1 (8:14)

I like to make a comment. I've listened and I've read the tabloids. Everyone is giving her a rough time. But did you ever consider there's nine kids in that house, not only her, eight. But the husband also act like he's a child. He doesn't stand up for himself. It's like he's making her make all the decisions, which isn't right. Regardless if he cheated or not, that's his choice. But it has, it's a two way street on it.

Caller 4 (8:37)

Also, like maybe she wouldn't have to be so mean and critical of him if he actually stepped up and did something around there.

Caller 1 (8:44)

I mean, exactly. He wouldn't participate in a holiday. She makes a big deal of this. Dude, you've been living with this woman for 10 years. You didn't know that already? And then all of a sudden would it be solidified on tv? Everybody's jumping on his bandwagon and I just don't think that's right because she has more pressure than he does because those kids don't always be with her.

Caller 4 (9:03)

To play devil's advocate on that. And not that I disagree with you, but didn't she know that about him before they had children? Didn't she know he was going to be like a non participant, you know, a non participating, like, you know, like per said slacker.

Caller 1 (9:19)

You know, the main thing with me, every woman said, well, maybe I can change that person. You can never change a man. If he's like that from the get go, he's gonna always be like that. That's why with my auntie, she's been married for 20 years. In the last two years, he has cheated multiple times, gave her four different diseases at one time. She still didn't leave him. And it's like, woman, I want to smack you because you're stronger than that before. At one time. That's a. That's a lot at one time. Wow.

Caller 3 (9:47)

It's like.

Caller 1 (9:48)

Yeah, so I. I agree. Sometimes you just gotta cheat. Cheat and walk away. Or if you're gonna cheat, don't cheat with a stupid woman. Get somebody that's gonna keep it on the down low and the woman never has to find out.

Caller 2 (10:02)

We're having cheating advice right now.

Host (Burch) (10:03)

So you really are saying that sometimes cheating is justified?

Caller 1 (10:06)

Yes, it is. But only if you smart. Because if you're not smart and you trying to hurt the other person, then you gonna throw it up in their face in the first place.

Caller 3 (10:15)

So you think cheating is justified, Just not in John and Kate's case.

Caller 1 (10:19)

She just need to walk away with the kids and just throw her hands up and like move on. There's somebody out there that's gonna want her regardless of how many kids she has.

Host (Burch) (10:26)

Look, if we had a friend in the same situation whose husband brought home four different diseases and she ended up screwing around on him, obviously with somebody that didn't know the disease that she had, you probably would all say, well, I just.

Caller 1 (10:41)

I know. I would always say.

Caller 2 (10:42)

I would always say you were stupid for staying. Yeah, Levi, you're stupid for staying.

Host (Burch) (10:46)

Yeah, I've got a one disease minimum maximum. I should say, you give it to

Caller 2 (10:51)

me one time, that's it.

Host (Burch) (10:52)

I'm not going to give you three other shots. The Birch show.