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Katie
The Bird Show.
Host
So Katie and I had a conversation recently about when do you draw the line and at your girlfriend or boyfriend's hobbies. And this could be husband and wife as well because we have a friend who now she cannot sleep through the night because her boyfriend has this consistent routine of getting up about 3 o' clock in the morning to go play video games like before work, like while he brew breakfast and then he will go to work. So she will go to bed with her boyfriend, everything's fine. And she said she used to be a deep sleeper, but she simply, when he gets up now, and I guess she wakes up and wonders where he is and found consistently he gets up and he goes and plays video games.
Co-host
Is it because he has insomnia and in video games it's just kind of what he does to sort of pass the time rather than lay there wide awake?
Host
I really have no idea. I just know it spawned a conversation about, well, this is kind of his hobby. It's his thing. And he's picking an odd time to do it. But then we also heard about another friend whose husband. They bought a home and the home had a basement. And one of the agreements was that he liked mod trains. That was his hobby. Right. So there was a corner of the basement in which he was able to. And like, you know, a lot of guys when you're a kid, you have their table and you, you know, at least with my brother when he was a kid, let me say that he would nail the tracks on this big wooden table and his big elaborate train set. You know, when he was a kid. Well, some adults still have those train sets. So this husband had put that train set in the basement and over time it went from the corner of the basement to the fact that it took up the entire basement.
Katie
It's like a village down there.
Host
Yeah, the whole thing.
Co-host
And you know, that was his goal from the beginning.
Host
Oh, of course.
Co-host
I'm Gonna cover every square foot of this basement.
Host
And he does. And now he has. And so she's now her basement and her house. If you go, you know, is the. Like, you walk into, I guess, West Virginia mountainside, where there's, you know, the painted hill with the grass, and he's got the little trains and the little people and everything. I mean, I can just. Im having his little conductor hat as he sits on his stool with his little remote control, but still. And then we thought, well, when do you go too far with a hobby? Because we thought, you know what, the entire basement. Like, when do you have to go to your partner and say, you know what? We need to talk?
Katie
I didn't. My aunt actually did this to my grandmother, and both of them are passed away. So they're negotiating this up in heaven now.
Co-host
Okay.
Host
And they probably really still are, because I'm sure those conversations, God's like, come on, seriously, guys.
Katie
My grandma got involved in ceramics in her old age and would paint, you know, where you make the stuff, and then she'd put it in the.
Co-host
Can't wait to get old to get into something like that.
Host
Can't get away with it in my 30s, but in my 60s, I'm so
Co-host
there be a ceramic artist.
Katie
And she did. And she did other things. Like, she did knitting and stuff like that. But, like, ceramics or what? That was the big one. So every year, for every holiday, every one of her kids, so my dad and all my aunt and uncle, aunts and uncles would get ceramic stuff. And most of them would have to do with the holiday, but then some of them would just be random, probably because all of the, like, the gingerbread houses were taken, so it would just be like a random ceramic goose, you know, but it would be one, because who wants one goose? Nobody really wants or not a goose. A swan. The swan's the white one. So it'd be like a white swan, but who wants really a white swan? So then you would get, like, three of them over the next three holidays. So you would have a complete set. And then you have the little ducklings. And when my aunt moved from New York, upstate New York, after my uncle retired, she moved to Arizona, and she gave, like, boxes of ceramics back to my grandmother, who was heartbroken, but she was moving into a smaller house. Like, this is a house.
Co-host
She didn't give it back.
Katie
They lived in for years, but she thought she was doing the right thing, like, where she was like, hey, I'm.
Co-host
She's not gonna give him to Goodwill or something.
Katie
We're moving from this four bedroom house that had our home office in it where we raised our family out to Arizona. We're moving into probably a one bedroom maybe. Maybe a bedroom in a guest room house. We just don't have space for it. My grandma was just heartbroken. And like, I remember I was only like 12 years old at the time, but I remember the intervention that took place with my aunts and uncles just having to explain to my grandmother that, like, hey, you're a little out of control with the ceramics.
Host
See, sweet. I mean, I guess you. Yeah, that's sweet that someone does ceramics. But now something that's not sweet is. I know. Like back when the whole cow pattern was big, the whole black and white,
Katie
like, oh, the dairy cow, the chick
Host
fil a cow pattern, or roosters also. This also applies to the rooster phase, is if you go into somebody's kitchen. That's another thing. If I was. If Katie was big into our whole kitchen looked like, like you said, a chick fil a cow or, you know, the rooster thing going on.
Co-host
I know people who have the pig theme.
Host
The pig theme. Like, I think that's where, you know. Oh, I started collecting pigs when I was 12. And now half the house is oink, oink. And then you'd have to say something.
Co-host
Yeah. I have a friend who, when she was a kid, collected some sort of doll, some sort of collectible doll. I don't even know what type it
Katie
is, but I'm sure that generation's American Girl.
Co-host
Yeah, it would be like that. But I don't even know what the name of them are. But if you are into that, you would know what this brand name is. I guess. Apparently each one's very expensive and elaborate and blah, blah, blah, whatever. But like, for a long time she would still have them out and I would be like, you can't.
Host
What's the stuffed animal theory? The stuffed animal thing?
Co-host
Yeah. I mean, I understand the collectible value of them or whatever, but dolls are creepy. When you pass the age of what?
Host
Well, 15, I think. We're taught. All these things seem to be like you've taken things from childhood and you're applying them to adulthood because the stuffed animal that takes up all your bed or the car. I really don't understand why you have stuffed animals in the back window of your car. I don't understand that either.
Co-host
Beanie Babies.
Katie
Yes. You know, there are people listening right now who have had to do interventions on their significant others.
Co-host
Yes.
Katie
I remember Jessica doing an intervention on her childhood best friend who was over Winnie the Pooh ing her kid.
Co-host
Oh, no,
Host
don't push Winnie the Pooh or push these things on your kid.
Katie
He had like an Eeyore onesie in his Christopher Robin room. You know what I mean?
Co-host
Yes.
Katie
What did you just say?
Co-host
I was just saying that there's sometimes that, that happens at Disney when like a parent really likes a certain character and is like pushing it on their kid.
Katie
Yeah. Then you end up overdosing on it.
Co-host
Right. Or the people who don't have kids and are way into Disney, like, that's a little bit over the top too. Like, we were talking about this with. I was talking to a girlfriend last night saying that those kids on Birds Big Adventure, like they know which princess is all theirs. And she said she had a friend in college who she cheered with who was so obsessed with Disney. Like, she would. They would go to college cheerleading competitions in Orlando and she would get up early in the morning and leave the rest of the cheerleaders and go to the character breakfast. Like by herself? Yes, by herself as a college student because she was so into Disney. And then she would go back to meet up with her cheerleaders and they'd do their ESPN competitions and all that stuff.
Katie
I get Disney. By yourself? Because then you can do what ride when you want. The character breakfast.
Co-host
Character breakfast by herself. And she was in her 20s. Yeah.
Katie
Hey, Amy, welcome to the bird show.
Co-host
Hanging on to the pets.
Guest
Yeah. My best friend, she's since grown out of it, but for a good eight years there, she had a Darth Maul shrine.
Host
Darth Maul, Star Wars.
Guest
Oh, yeah. There was a blow up chair, pens cup.
Host
Now wait a second. There's nothing wrong with that. Okay.
Co-host
You're like, no, no, no, no.
Host
Cheers.
Guest
I go to Dragon Kong with her. But I mean, it was a shrine.
Co-host
She's in her 30s and you're like, that's enough. You gotta stop decorating with your childhood cartoons. That is not the theme of your home.
Host
She's like, okay, you know what? Wait a second, I'm out of this conversation now. No, but then when Katie and I talked about these things, like, and I appreciate the call when Katie and I talk about these things, we also talk about, well, you know, is it, you know, would they be doing other things that you'd rather not them be doing if they weren't like into this hobby? You know what I mean? Like, how much do you fuss at somebody who is doing something like the train set or whatever?
Co-host
Right. When it's an innocent thing? Yeah, it's an innocent. Yeah. Like her Star wars stuff. But it could be just as obnoxious with college football. Like if that. But that's acceptable.
Katie
That's only acceptable because you're into it.
Host
No, no, I'm saying that sarcastically. I do think that college. The college football thing or the. Or the NFL or any of the sports thing is the same exact thing as everything we're talking about.
Co-host
Guys. I agree with you. And if you are over the top, any sports team. And that's the theme of the decor of your home.
Host
Yeah.
Co-host
Not just your, you know, game room that you watch the game in, but it's like everywhere.
Host
Right.
Co-host
That's too much.
Host
That's the same thing.
Katie
And keep in mind you're talking to the girl who painted her basement orange.
Host
But that was the viewing sports was the small trim.
Katie
Kendra, I give you that. Speaking of decor in the house.
Guest
My entire house is.
Host
Is what?
Guest
Mickey Mouse. Really?
Host
Even the kitchen, the bathroom.
Guest
I got Mickey Mouse flatware and a toaster. And the snow globes sit above my counters in the kitchen.
Co-host
So explain the obsession slightly. Explain it to us though. Help us understand it.
Guest
I've just always loved Disney. I grew up in California and I moved to San Diego in college and I was 89 miles from Disneyland, so I got to go every other weekend. And I even have Mickey Mouse tattooed on my wrist.
Katie
Are you. Are you a married gal?
Guest
No, I'm not.
Host
What does a boyfriend say when they first see your house?
Guest
They don't really freak out too much because most of it's like collector stuff. It's not like I have like little stuffed animals all over the house. But some people walk in and go, oh, no. And I always joke that my house looks like a five year old's bedroom threw up.
Host
Do you have like Mickey Mouse wallpaper or anything?
Guest
No.
Co-host
Okay. Do you have kids?
Guest
No.
Host
And how about the theme? But I think that. Yeah, but there is over.
Co-host
Consolidated to one area.
Host
Overkill.
Katie
It's anything in quantity is a. Is becomes an obsession and it becomes odd.
Host
Yeah.
Co-host
It becomes your decor of your entire home. Then maybe it's a little bit.
Host
Yeah, we. We. Yeah, we. It is just. When is it. When do you have to do an intervention? So I guess maybe when it spills past a room into another room when
Katie
you're baking with your Mickey Mouse oven mitts.
Co-host
Time to say it's when.
Katie
To say when. The Birch show.
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Date: March 24, 2026
In this engaging and humorous episode, The Bert Show cast dives into the blurred boundaries between harmless hobbies and full-blown obsessions. Through personal anecdotes, listener stories, and lighthearted debate, they explore when quirky interests go “too far,” sparking playful reflection on what it means when hobbies start spilling over into every corner of life and relationships.
Darth Maul Shrine
Entire Home is a Mickey Mouse Shrine
The hosts probe her motivations and whether being unmarried or child-free changes how this is perceived.
The Bert Show approaches the hobby-versus-obsession debate with warmth, humor, and relatable honesty. From model trains to Mickey Mouse decor, they remind listeners that while passionate interests can enrich our lives, it’s worth reflecting on when they begin to monopolize space, relationships, and identity. Ultimately, the episode offers a fun, self-deprecating take on our tendencies to go “all in”—and the gentle interventions that sometimes follow.