Vault: It's her turn to fight for her job!

Summary

The Bert Show

Episode: Vault: It's Her Turn to Fight for Her Job!
Date: June 9, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on a dramatic workplace saga between two coworkers, Sally and Jenny, who approach their boss together to demand raises. The twist: their boss only offers a raise—and job security—to one of them. The Bert Show brings both women onto the show to make their case, ultimately turning the decision over to the listeners, who will vote on which woman deserves the raise (and the job) more. The episode features sharp wit, candid honesty, some not-so-subtle shade, and lively listener responses on professionalism, workplace loyalty, and "catfights."

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Background: How the Drama Began

• Host Burt recaps the situation: Sally and Jenny, coworkers and supposed "allies," plan to approach their boss together to demand raises, threatening to leave if both aren't rewarded.
• The boss subverts expectations: He says only one can get a raise and continue in the role—the other will lose her job.
• Sally and Jenny then must compete directly, both in the office and, unexpectedly, on-air, after the boss involves The Bert Show listeners in the decision.

Burt (01:32): "They have their pitches to the boss, Jenny goes in first... then Sally... The boss just says to her, have you been on the Burt Show talking about this whole thing?... The boss immediately says, okay, thanks a lot. This interview is over."

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2. Sally’s Missteps (as Discussed by the Hosts)

• Sally's on-air pitch is criticized by the hosts for focusing on negatives about Jenny and others rather than promoting her own strengths.

• She’s noted for offending other employee groups (e.g., smokers, working parents).

• Sally's lack of preparation and negative tone backfires with both the hosts and the audience.

• Quote:

  Burt (03:03): "She didn't really talk about how she deserved the job. She was ripping on so many other people that she really sort of got off message."

  Jen (03:17): "You don’t spend the bulk of your time explaining why they're bad."

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3. Jenny’s Perspective: Her Turn for a Pitch

Jenny Explains Her Side:

• Jenny admits she felt solidarity with Sally initially but now thinks their joint confrontation was a mistake.

  Jenny (04:30): "I felt like we were in...solidarity together...I thought it would have a positive outcome. And it just really ended up complicating things a lot more."

• Jenny also admits to tipping off the boss about Sally’s radio involvement, seeing it as "getting everything out on the table."

  Jenny (05:22): "I thought he should know...what Sally was up to...In retrospect, it was kind of superficial and silly."

• Burt accuses Jenny of betraying Sally:

  Burt (05:43): "You really kind of screwed her over, to be honest with you...as soon as you had the chance, you sorta...stabbed her in the back."

• Jenny defends her actions:

  Jenny (05:54): "I was put in a really, really strange position...I think that I did what I had to do."

• The hosts and Jenny then banter about whether Sally would have done the same, with contrasting views on cutthroat workplace loyalty.

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4. Jenny’s Pitch: Why She Deserves the Raise

• Jenny claims respect among coworkers, longer tenure, and better performance (though admits she can't "officially" quantify her greater productivity).

• She rebuts Sally’s criticism of her as a working mom, noting her strong work ethic even with family priorities.

  Jenny (07:08): "I’m just kind of respect it a little bit more...I actually do everything that's set out for me to do and more. I think I'm more productive than she is...I just think anybody in the office would agree with me on that."

• Addresses Sally's personal attacks with a sly, dismissive tone— leaning into the hosts’ playful style.

  Jenny (09:24): "Well, you know, it’s true. That’s just true. I wouldn't, you know, make something like that."

• When pressed about direct bottom-line impact, Jenny gives an honest but unprepared answer:

  Burt (09:29): "Who contributes to the bottom line more?" Jenny (09:43): "I was hired before Sally was, so I would think...that I’m more productive, money-wise, more than she is. I might have to get somebody to back that up..."

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5. Listener Reactions & Workplace Ethics

The Audience Weighs In (10:05-13:46)

• Multiple callers are unimpressed. They argue that both Sally and Jenny lack professionalism—failing to prepare, bickering on air, and criticizing each other rather than focusing on their own qualifications.

  Caller Maria (10:11): "They both should be fired...It's supposed to be a job interview, and they come on the radio. I didn't prepare."

  Caller Chrissy (10:43): "In a job interview, you never say anything negative about...your past employees. Never. Because that's automatically a no. No."

• Some criticism also targets the boss for his unprofessional handling.

  Caller Chrissy (11:08): "I don't think the boss deserves his job. I mean, how unprofessional it is to do this."

• The hosts note the relatively low-level position but acknowledge it's a significant financial increase at stake.

• The issue of women "competing" is raised, with hosts and callers both poking fun and criticizing how quickly the contest turned personal.

  Jen (08:53): "My favorite thing on the Burt Show is women in competition. Like that is such a beautiful thing to watch." Caller 2 (14:20): "Put two women in competition, they immediately just start attacking each other. It's like those old dating shows."

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6. Jenny’s Final Thoughts and the Voting Plan

• Jenny expresses hope that listeners will assess her fairly, even though she spent most of her time defending herself, and acknowledges the odd, public format.

  Jenny (13:11): "I hope that listeners would really hear...what I had to say today. Even if I was mostly on the defensive...I would just hope that they can decide with...the most information that I gave."

• Hosts wrap by saying that the voting will be open for listeners, and the outcome will be revealed next week.

  Burt (13:48): "We'll put both of these on air interviews up online and listeners will vote over the next couple of days, and early next week, we'll get the boss on and we'll tell him what the results were."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 01:32 | Burt | "They can both make their pitch on the Burt Show, and then the listeners can vote on who gets the raise." | | 03:03 | Burt | "She was ripping on so many other people that she really sort of got off message." | | 04:52 | Jen | "Well, it depends on your definition of positive, right? If positive, you mean messy." | | 05:43 | Burt | "You really kind of screwed her over, to be honest with you...stabbed her in the back." | | 07:08 | Jenny | "I feel like around the office, I’m just kind of respected a little bit more...I just think I’m a more agreeable, more helpful co-worker than she is." | | 08:53 | Jen | "My favorite thing on the Burt Show is women in competition." | | 10:11 | Caller Maria | "They both should be fired...I want the money, I need this work right now...Like, get real, shut up." | | 11:08 | Caller Chrissy | "I don't think the boss deserves his job. I mean, how unprofessional it is to do this." | | 14:20 | Caller 2 | "Put two women in competition, they immediately just start attacking each other. It's like those old dating shows." |

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• 01:32 – Background recap and set-up of job competition saga.
• 02:35 – Sally’s pitch aftermath and critique from the hosts.
• 04:07 – Jenny joins the show for her opportunity to present her case.
• 05:43 – Confrontation about loyalty and "selling out" Sally.
• 07:08 – Jenny’s case for deserving the raise.
• 10:11 – Callers weigh in, big shift to criticism of both contestants (and the boss).
• 14:02 – Hosts discuss listener voting and next steps.

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Tone and Atmosphere

The Bert Show maintains its signature blend of authenticity, playful antagonism, and real-talk, using humor and candor to explore workplace rivalry. The hosts and callers don't pull their punches, dissecting office politics, "catty" dynamics, and professional missteps with both empathy and mockery.

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Summary

This episode transforms a typical workplace dispute into a public vote, exposing the pitfalls of unprofessional showdowns, the importance of positive self-presentation, and the complexities of workplace alliances. Jenny makes her impromptu case while navigating calls about loyalty and professionalism. The audience is left to judge not only who deserves a raise, but what truly counts as respectable workplace behavior.

Next Step: Both women's interviews are posted online, and The Bert Show listeners get the final say. Tune in next week for the boss's response and the dramatic conclusion!

Transcript

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[Birch Show Host]

Hey, the Birch Show.

[Burt]

This has been a long storyline in the making here. We started to talk to Sally last week again. She goes into the boss's office. She has a plan with her co worker Jenny that they're both going to go into that boss's office and they're going to demand a raise. Either you give us both a raise or we're getting out of here. Boss doesn't buy it, says, look, I've got some cash, but it's just for one of you. So one of you gets to actually keep your job and get a raise. The other one, bye, bye. So they have their pitches to the boss, Jenny Goes in first. She comes out. Then Sally, who we've been talking to for a week now, goes in, and the boss just says to her, have you been on the Burke show talking about this whole thing? Jenny says, yeah, I have. And the boss immediately says, okay, thanks a lot. And this is. This interview is over. So she leaves the office, and they don't even talk about her job. The boss calls us up and says, look, if Sally wants to have some fun, let's have some fun. They can both make their pitch on the Burt show, and then the listeners can vote on who gets the raise. Sally comes on here yesterday, makes her pitch, and she just hacks it.

[Jenny]

In the two years I've worked there, I've never been late. I have testimonials from three people that I work with directly. I don't have kids, unlike my other co worker, who has kids, which I think makes me a better employee because I don't have to be making personal phone calls once an hour to go check up on my kids.

[Jen]

Do you think she has missed days when she's been perfectly healthy, but she's had a child under the weather?

[Jenny]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Burt]

She was very passionate about that. She offended smokers. Smokers yesterday also. Right. And she just didn't really talk about how she deserved the job. She was ripping on so many other people that she really sort of got off message.

[Jen]

Yeah. If she was on the air with this, if she was pitching for 10 minutes, the first two were talking about what makes her good, and the second eight was talking about what makes the other. And that's never. I mean, you can certainly address what makes you more worthy of the raise than the person you're up against, if you know that person. But I don't think you spend the bulk of your time explaining why they're bad.

[Burt]

Right. And, yeah, she just rubbed people the wrong way. I think at one point last week, she called Jenny here like a. Didn't she call her like a. Or something?

[Grainger Advertiser]

Oh, yeah, she did.

[Burt]

Yeah. When she found out that Jenny went in and sold her out on the whole radio thing.

[Grainger Advertiser]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Burt]

Remember, she's like, if she did that, she's a.

[Grainger Advertiser]

But, you know, you guys don't realize Sally is realized. Sally is that's realized employee, whatever that means. Fully realized employee.

[Burt]

Right, right.

[Grainger Advertiser]

What does that mean? That's a whole bunch of fluff.

[Burt]

So here is Jenny now, and it's her turn to make her pitch for her job. Hey, Jenny.

[Jenny]

Hey.

[Burt]

How are you today?

[Jenny]

Hi. I'm fine.

[Burt]

Yeah, let's let's back up a couple of steps here. So Sally comes to you with this idea to go into the boss's office together. Why did you even consider doing that? I mean, we sort of told her that's a bad idea.

[Jenny]

Yeah, well, now, like, I feel like it was really stupid, but when we did it, I don't know, it felt like my decision just. I felt like we were in, you know, like, solidarity together. Like, I felt like this was somebody I could really trust, like one of my coworkers. And I just really thought it would have, like, a positive outcome. And it, like, really ended up just really complicating things a lot more. So.

[Jen]

Well, it depends on your definition of positive, right? If positive, you mean messy.

[Jenny]

Yeah, exactly.

[Grainger Advertiser]

Well done.

[Jenny]

Quite a mess.

[Burt]

So when you go into the boss's office for the. The interview is one of the first things you do is you tell the boss that Sally's been on the radio talking about this.

[Jenny]

Well, you know, I started. I was. I was going to, like, you know, start giving my presentation, but I thought that he should know, Like, I thought just to.

[Caller 1]

Just to get.

[Jenny]

Get it all out there, that he should probably know, you know, what. What was going on, what. What Sally was up to. And, you know, because she might have thought it was, like, a good idea to come on the radio, but I think in retrospect, it was kind of, like, superficial and silly. So, I don't know, I thought it was a good idea to just get it all on the table. I mean.

[Burt]

I mean, let him know, essentially. You really kind of screwed her over, to be honest with you. I mean, you guys both went in there in solidarity, then as soon as you had the chance, you sorta. You stabbed her in the back.

[Jenny]

Well, you know, I was put in a really, really strange position with kind of competing against her as it was. So I kind of. I mean, I guess maybe you're right, but I think that I did what I had to do, and I think

[Grainger Advertiser]

Sally would have done the same thing to her.

[Burt]

You think so?

[Grainger Advertiser]

I think she would have sold her down the river.

[Burt]

Yeah. I don't think she's smart enough to figure that one out.

[Grainger Advertiser]

I think she is, though. I think she is.

[Burt]

Oh, no.

[Grainger Advertiser]

And all's fair in love and war. I mean, you're trying to get the job just as much as she was trying to get the job, so.

[Jenny]

Exactly.

[Grainger Advertiser]

I kind of get that.

[Burt]

Do you want to address anything that she said yesterday, or would you just rather focus on yourself today and you making the pitch?

[Jenny]

Well, I Could address some things. I honestly, I. When I heard her yesterday, she hadn't prepared much at all. So I just. I really haven't prepared much. I figured you guys would be asking me some questions, but I could address anything, you know, that she said. I was listening. So.

[Jen]

Question. Okay. All right. So I'll make sure I phrase it right. Okay. Okay, got it. Why do you deserve a raise over Sally?

[Jenny]

Well, I would say, you know, she has all these things that she was talking yesterday about, you know, being late, not never being late and all of those things. I just. I feel like around the office, I'm just kind of respect it a little bit more. It's not that I have more responsibilities than she has, but it's that I actually do everything that's set out for me to do and more. I think I'm more productive than she is. I think that people around the office would definitely attest to that, that they can rely on me for more things or do. You know, I've been around a little bit longer and Sally has, and I just think I'm a more agreeable, more helpful co worker than she is. And that would be my main argument, actually. You know, regardless of the fact that she wanted to go on this big tirade about how I have kids and how I'm split focus because of that. And yeah, obviously my priority is my family. You know, I have two kids and they're my world. And so obviously, you know, that comes first. But that does not by any means mean that I am. That I still don't do my job better than Sally does. You know, I might take calls about my kids at work, but I'm not going to take calls from my girlfriends, which I have seen her do numerous times. You know, I'm not online chatting or anything like that all day as she is. I really get my work done. And I just think anybody in the office would agree with me on that.

[Jen]

I'd like to go on record right now, by the way, saying that my favorite thing on the bird show is women in competition. Like that is such a beautiful thing to watch. I'm not going to address the fact. And I'm not. You know what? I'm not even going to bring up the fact that she said that stuff about my kids and how they call me at work, because I do get a call. I don't get a call from any girlfriends like someone else does, but I do get a call from my kid every now and again. And I'm not going to talk about it or even I'm not going to talk about the fact how she chats on the Internet all the time. Not even going to talk.

[Burt]

But if I did, it would sound like this.

[Jen]

I'm not.

[Jenny]

Well, you know, it's true. That's just true. I wouldn't, you know, make something like that.

[Burt]

If I'm a bottom line numbers guy, which one of you contributes to the bottom line more? Who's more productive money wise?

[Jenny]

I don't know if I could officially say that. I would think, you know, I was hired before Sally was, so I would think that the answer would be me, that I'm more productive, money wise, more than she is. I mean, I might have to get somebody to back that up, But I'm,

[Burt]

like, 80% sure there's a common theme going on on the phones. Good morning, Maria. You're on Q100.

[Caller 1]

Good morning, Burt. I think they both should be fired. I mean, it's supposed to be a job interview, and they come on the radio. I didn't prepare. There are so many unemployed people right now that would go to work, that wouldn't get on their social networking sites, that would do their job, that would fight like tooth and nail. I want the money. I need, you know, I need this work right now. And they're like, oh, I didn't even prepare. Like, get real. Shut up.

[Grainger Advertiser]

Well, this is kind of their boss's idea, though.

[Burt]

Do we gotta get all mean about it? Hey, Chrissy. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Jenny]

Hey.

[Burt]

Hi.

[Caller 1]

How are y' all doing?

[Burt]

Doing good, thank you.

[Caller 1]

But I think this is what I think. Like the caller just said before, it's kind of like a job interview. So when you go into a job interview, you never say anything negative about your past employers or your past employees. Never. Because that's automatically a no. No. And then the number two thing, I think. I don't think the boss deserves his job. I mean, how unprofessional it is to do this.

[Burt]

Yeah. The only thing I could think over the last couple of days is that this isn't a high level position, or the boss wouldn't put it up to Burt show listeners to decide who gets the gig. It's the only thing I could think the last couple of days, but it

[Grainger Advertiser]

is a lot of money that they're vying for a substantial amount of a raise.

[Jen]

What's that work out to be, like 400 bucks a month. It's a big deal.

[Caller 2]

Mm.

[Burt]

Good morning, Q100.

[Caller 1]

Hello.

[Burt]

Hello.

[Jen]

Hello.

[Jenny]

Hi.

[Burt]

Hi.

[Caller 1]

I just wanted to comment about all this like, basically what the other college is saying. This is absolutely ridiculous. This basically sounds like a huge cat fight between these two women. Neither one of them deserves a job again. They should have prepared something.

[Jenny]

And you never bash the other person.

[Caller 1]

Neither one of them are professional.

[Jenny]

They're coming in unprepared.

[Caller 1]

And, you know, they're just talking about how, you know, I mean, it's just.

[Jenny]

It really is absolutely ridiculous.

[Burt]

Let me ask you this. Hey, Jenny, would you feel of the two scenarios, which would you feel better about Sally getting the raise or both of you being fired?

[Jenny]

Oh, my God. Well, obviously I would feel better about Sally getting the raise. I mean, like, I have a family just before. I'm not in, you know, any kind of position where I would want to lose a job. But, yeah, I hope that that's not the outcome of either. I really hope that's not what happens, either of those things. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's kind of crazy that people are so on the offensive about, you know, being unprofessional. Like it's an unprofessional venue to have chosen to come on the radio in the first place.

[Burt]

Yeah, I think. I think that has some merit there because this was not your idea. This was your boss's idea. So I don't think that you can. You can be penalized for that. Penalized. Penalized. Sorry.

[Jen]

Penalized.

[Burt]

Hit delay. Is there anything else that you want to say?

[Jenny]

I don't know. I just hope that, you know, I don't know. I hope that listeners would really hear. Have heard me out what I had to say today. Even if I was mostly on the defensive, you know, defending what somebody said, kind of. Kind of against my character. I don't know, I would just hope that they can decide with, you know, the most information that I gave.

[Grainger Advertiser]

I think you'll get votes just because you're a mom.

[Burt]

I think you'll just get. I think you'll get votes just because you're not Sally.

[Grainger Advertiser]

That's true. Yeah, that's very true. Very true.

[Jen]

You could have come on and just hum, right?

[Grainger Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Burt]

Okay, so what we will do, Jenny, is we will put both of these on air interviews up online and virtual listeners will vote over the next couple of days and early next week, we'll get the boss on and we'll tell him what the results were. Okay.

[Jenny]

Okay, well, thanks.

[Burt]

Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate. Doesn't feel like to me, at least, looking at what's on the phone let anybody's really happy with either One of them.

[Grainger Advertiser]

Oh, no.

[Jenny]

Yeah.

[Burt]

It's just like, get rid of both of them. Good morning, Christopher. Good Morning. You're on Q100.

[Caller 2]

Hi. Good morning, Bird show. Love you guys.

[Burt]

Thank you, sir.

[Caller 2]

I just want to expand on what Jeff said about women over competition. I mean, a man will come on, just lift the accomplishments. I've done this. I've done this. You know, I always meet my goals, put two women in competition, they immediately just start attacking each other. It's like those old dating shows.

[Jen]

Yeah.

[Caller 2]

You have two women, you're gonna be fighting over the ugliest guy you've ever seen, but just because the other girl wants it, they immediately start tagging each other like cats and dogs. Mm.

[Burt]

Wasn't it you, Jen, that say that women are each other's worst?

[Grainger Advertiser]

Stop it. I never say that.

[Burt]

I think you say that quite a lot.

[Grainger Advertiser]

I didn't. I have never said that. It makes me mad.

[Jen]

Bert, you said before, like, women, stay at home, take care of the kids, get out of the workplace.

[Grainger Advertiser]

Oh, my God. Where's Melissa?

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