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Birch Show Host
Hey, the Birch Show.
Burt
This has been a long storyline in the making here. We started to talk to Sally last week again. She goes into the boss's office. She has a plan with her co worker Jenny that they're both going to go into that boss's office and they're going to demand a raise. Either you give us both a raise or we're getting out of here. Boss doesn't buy it, says, look, I've got some cash, but it's just for one of you. So one of you gets to actually keep your job and get a raise. The other one, bye, bye. So they have their pitches to the boss, Jenny Goes in first. She comes out. Then Sally, who we've been talking to for a week now, goes in, and the boss just says to her, have you been on the Burke show talking about this whole thing? Jenny says, yeah, I have. And the boss immediately says, okay, thanks a lot. And this is. This interview is over. So she leaves the office, and they don't even talk about her job. The boss calls us up and says, look, if Sally wants to have some fun, let's have some fun. They can both make their pitch on the Burt show, and then the listeners can vote on who gets the raise. Sally comes on here yesterday, makes her pitch, and she just hacks it.
Jenny
In the two years I've worked there, I've never been late. I have testimonials from three people that I work with directly. I don't have kids, unlike my other co worker, who has kids, which I think makes me a better employee because I don't have to be making personal phone calls once an hour to go check up on my kids.
Jen
Do you think she has missed days when she's been perfectly healthy, but she's had a child under the weather?
Jenny
Oh, yeah, of course.
Burt
She was very passionate about that. She offended smokers. Smokers yesterday also. Right. And she just didn't really talk about how she deserved the job. She was ripping on so many other people that she really sort of got off message.
Jen
Yeah. If she was on the air with this, if she was pitching for 10 minutes, the first two were talking about what makes her good, and the second eight was talking about what makes the other. And that's never. I mean, you can certainly address what makes you more worthy of the raise than the person you're up against, if you know that person. But I don't think you spend the bulk of your time explaining why they're bad.
Burt
Right. And, yeah, she just rubbed people the wrong way. I think at one point last week, she called Jenny here like a. Didn't she call her like a. Or something?
Grainger Advertiser
Oh, yeah, she did.
Burt
Yeah. When she found out that Jenny went in and sold her out on the whole radio thing.
Grainger Advertiser
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Burt
Remember, she's like, if she did that, she's a.
Grainger Advertiser
But, you know, you guys don't realize Sally is realized. Sally is that's realized employee, whatever that means. Fully realized employee.
Burt
Right, right.
Grainger Advertiser
What does that mean? That's a whole bunch of fluff.
Burt
So here is Jenny now, and it's her turn to make her pitch for her job. Hey, Jenny.
Jenny
Hey.
Burt
How are you today?
Jenny
Hi. I'm fine.
Burt
Yeah, let's let's back up a couple of steps here. So Sally comes to you with this idea to go into the boss's office together. Why did you even consider doing that? I mean, we sort of told her that's a bad idea.
Jenny
Yeah, well, now, like, I feel like it was really stupid, but when we did it, I don't know, it felt like my decision just. I felt like we were in, you know, like, solidarity together. Like, I felt like this was somebody I could really trust, like one of my coworkers. And I just really thought it would have, like, a positive outcome. And it, like, really ended up just really complicating things a lot more. So.
Jen
Well, it depends on your definition of positive, right? If positive, you mean messy.
Jenny
Yeah, exactly.
Grainger Advertiser
Well done.
Jenny
Quite a mess.
Burt
So when you go into the boss's office for the. The interview is one of the first things you do is you tell the boss that Sally's been on the radio talking about this.
Jenny
Well, you know, I started. I was. I was going to, like, you know, start giving my presentation, but I thought that he should know, Like, I thought just to.
Caller 1
Just to get.
Jenny
Get it all out there, that he should probably know, you know, what. What was going on, what. What Sally was up to. And, you know, because she might have thought it was, like, a good idea to come on the radio, but I think in retrospect, it was kind of, like, superficial and silly. So, I don't know, I thought it was a good idea to just get it all on the table. I mean.
Burt
I mean, let him know, essentially. You really kind of screwed her over, to be honest with you. I mean, you guys both went in there in solidarity, then as soon as you had the chance, you sorta. You stabbed her in the back.
Jenny
Well, you know, I was put in a really, really strange position with kind of competing against her as it was. So I kind of. I mean, I guess maybe you're right, but I think that I did what I had to do, and I think
Grainger Advertiser
Sally would have done the same thing to her.
Burt
You think so?
Grainger Advertiser
I think she would have sold her down the river.
Burt
Yeah. I don't think she's smart enough to figure that one out.
Grainger Advertiser
I think she is, though. I think she is.
Burt
Oh, no.
Grainger Advertiser
And all's fair in love and war. I mean, you're trying to get the job just as much as she was trying to get the job, so.
Jenny
Exactly.
Grainger Advertiser
I kind of get that.
Burt
Do you want to address anything that she said yesterday, or would you just rather focus on yourself today and you making the pitch?
Jenny
Well, I Could address some things. I honestly, I. When I heard her yesterday, she hadn't prepared much at all. So I just. I really haven't prepared much. I figured you guys would be asking me some questions, but I could address anything, you know, that she said. I was listening. So.
Jen
Question. Okay. All right. So I'll make sure I phrase it right. Okay. Okay, got it. Why do you deserve a raise over Sally?
Jenny
Well, I would say, you know, she has all these things that she was talking yesterday about, you know, being late, not never being late and all of those things. I just. I feel like around the office, I'm just kind of respect it a little bit more. It's not that I have more responsibilities than she has, but it's that I actually do everything that's set out for me to do and more. I think I'm more productive than she is. I think that people around the office would definitely attest to that, that they can rely on me for more things or do. You know, I've been around a little bit longer and Sally has, and I just think I'm a more agreeable, more helpful co worker than she is. And that would be my main argument, actually. You know, regardless of the fact that she wanted to go on this big tirade about how I have kids and how I'm split focus because of that. And yeah, obviously my priority is my family. You know, I have two kids and they're my world. And so obviously, you know, that comes first. But that does not by any means mean that I am. That I still don't do my job better than Sally does. You know, I might take calls about my kids at work, but I'm not going to take calls from my girlfriends, which I have seen her do numerous times. You know, I'm not online chatting or anything like that all day as she is. I really get my work done. And I just think anybody in the office would agree with me on that.
Jen
I'd like to go on record right now, by the way, saying that my favorite thing on the bird show is women in competition. Like that is such a beautiful thing to watch. I'm not going to address the fact. And I'm not. You know what? I'm not even going to bring up the fact that she said that stuff about my kids and how they call me at work, because I do get a call. I don't get a call from any girlfriends like someone else does, but I do get a call from my kid every now and again. And I'm not going to talk about it or even I'm not going to talk about the fact how she chats on the Internet all the time. Not even going to talk.
Burt
But if I did, it would sound like this.
Jen
I'm not.
Jenny
Well, you know, it's true. That's just true. I wouldn't, you know, make something like that.
Burt
If I'm a bottom line numbers guy, which one of you contributes to the bottom line more? Who's more productive money wise?
Jenny
I don't know if I could officially say that. I would think, you know, I was hired before Sally was, so I would think that the answer would be me, that I'm more productive, money wise, more than she is. I mean, I might have to get somebody to back that up, But I'm,
Burt
like, 80% sure there's a common theme going on on the phones. Good morning, Maria. You're on Q100.
Caller 1
Good morning, Burt. I think they both should be fired. I mean, it's supposed to be a job interview, and they come on the radio. I didn't prepare. There are so many unemployed people right now that would go to work, that wouldn't get on their social networking sites, that would do their job, that would fight like tooth and nail. I want the money. I need, you know, I need this work right now. And they're like, oh, I didn't even prepare. Like, get real. Shut up.
Grainger Advertiser
Well, this is kind of their boss's idea, though.
Burt
Do we gotta get all mean about it? Hey, Chrissy. Good Morning. You're on Q100.
Jenny
Hey.
Burt
Hi.
Caller 1
How are y' all doing?
Burt
Doing good, thank you.
Caller 1
But I think this is what I think. Like the caller just said before, it's kind of like a job interview. So when you go into a job interview, you never say anything negative about your past employers or your past employees. Never. Because that's automatically a no. No. And then the number two thing, I think. I don't think the boss deserves his job. I mean, how unprofessional it is to do this.
Burt
Yeah. The only thing I could think over the last couple of days is that this isn't a high level position, or the boss wouldn't put it up to Burt show listeners to decide who gets the gig. It's the only thing I could think the last couple of days, but it
Grainger Advertiser
is a lot of money that they're vying for a substantial amount of a raise.
Jen
What's that work out to be, like 400 bucks a month. It's a big deal.
Caller 2
Mm.
Burt
Good morning, Q100.
Caller 1
Hello.
Burt
Hello.
Jen
Hello.
Jenny
Hi.
Burt
Hi.
Caller 1
I just wanted to comment about all this like, basically what the other college is saying. This is absolutely ridiculous. This basically sounds like a huge cat fight between these two women. Neither one of them deserves a job again. They should have prepared something.
Jenny
And you never bash the other person.
Caller 1
Neither one of them are professional.
Jenny
They're coming in unprepared.
Caller 1
And, you know, they're just talking about how, you know, I mean, it's just.
Jenny
It really is absolutely ridiculous.
Burt
Let me ask you this. Hey, Jenny, would you feel of the two scenarios, which would you feel better about Sally getting the raise or both of you being fired?
Jenny
Oh, my God. Well, obviously I would feel better about Sally getting the raise. I mean, like, I have a family just before. I'm not in, you know, any kind of position where I would want to lose a job. But, yeah, I hope that that's not the outcome of either. I really hope that's not what happens, either of those things. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's kind of crazy that people are so on the offensive about, you know, being unprofessional. Like it's an unprofessional venue to have chosen to come on the radio in the first place.
Burt
Yeah, I think. I think that has some merit there because this was not your idea. This was your boss's idea. So I don't think that you can. You can be penalized for that. Penalized. Penalized. Sorry.
Jen
Penalized.
Burt
Hit delay. Is there anything else that you want to say?
Jenny
I don't know. I just hope that, you know, I don't know. I hope that listeners would really hear. Have heard me out what I had to say today. Even if I was mostly on the defensive, you know, defending what somebody said, kind of. Kind of against my character. I don't know, I would just hope that they can decide with, you know, the most information that I gave.
Grainger Advertiser
I think you'll get votes just because you're a mom.
Burt
I think you'll just get. I think you'll get votes just because you're not Sally.
Grainger Advertiser
That's true. Yeah, that's very true. Very true.
Jen
You could have come on and just hum, right?
Grainger Advertiser
Yeah.
Burt
Okay, so what we will do, Jenny, is we will put both of these on air interviews up online and virtual listeners will vote over the next couple of days and early next week, we'll get the boss on and we'll tell him what the results were. Okay.
Jenny
Okay, well, thanks.
Burt
Okay, thank you very much. Appreciate. Doesn't feel like to me, at least, looking at what's on the phone let anybody's really happy with either One of them.
Grainger Advertiser
Oh, no.
Jenny
Yeah.
Burt
It's just like, get rid of both of them. Good morning, Christopher. Good Morning. You're on Q100.
Caller 2
Hi. Good morning, Bird show. Love you guys.
Burt
Thank you, sir.
Caller 2
I just want to expand on what Jeff said about women over competition. I mean, a man will come on, just lift the accomplishments. I've done this. I've done this. You know, I always meet my goals, put two women in competition, they immediately just start attacking each other. It's like those old dating shows.
Jen
Yeah.
Caller 2
You have two women, you're gonna be fighting over the ugliest guy you've ever seen, but just because the other girl wants it, they immediately start tagging each other like cats and dogs. Mm.
Burt
Wasn't it you, Jen, that say that women are each other's worst?
Grainger Advertiser
Stop it. I never say that.
Burt
I think you say that quite a lot.
Grainger Advertiser
I didn't. I have never said that. It makes me mad.
Jen
Bert, you said before, like, women, stay at home, take care of the kids, get out of the workplace.
Grainger Advertiser
Oh, my God. Where's Melissa?
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Episode: Vault: It's Her Turn to Fight for Her Job!
Date: June 9, 2026
This episode centers on a dramatic workplace saga between two coworkers, Sally and Jenny, who approach their boss together to demand raises. The twist: their boss only offers a raise—and job security—to one of them. The Bert Show brings both women onto the show to make their case, ultimately turning the decision over to the listeners, who will vote on which woman deserves the raise (and the job) more. The episode features sharp wit, candid honesty, some not-so-subtle shade, and lively listener responses on professionalism, workplace loyalty, and "catfights."
Burt (01:32): "They have their pitches to the boss, Jenny goes in first... then Sally... The boss just says to her, have you been on the Burt Show talking about this whole thing?... The boss immediately says, okay, thanks a lot. This interview is over."
Sally's on-air pitch is criticized by the hosts for focusing on negatives about Jenny and others rather than promoting her own strengths.
She’s noted for offending other employee groups (e.g., smokers, working parents).
Sally's lack of preparation and negative tone backfires with both the hosts and the audience.
Quote:
Burt (03:03): "She didn't really talk about how she deserved the job. She was ripping on so many other people that she really sort of got off message."
Jen (03:17): "You don’t spend the bulk of your time explaining why they're bad."
Jenny admits she felt solidarity with Sally initially but now thinks their joint confrontation was a mistake.
Jenny (04:30): "I felt like we were in...solidarity together...I thought it would have a positive outcome. And it just really ended up complicating things a lot more."
Jenny also admits to tipping off the boss about Sally’s radio involvement, seeing it as "getting everything out on the table."
Jenny (05:22): "I thought he should know...what Sally was up to...In retrospect, it was kind of superficial and silly."
Burt accuses Jenny of betraying Sally:
Burt (05:43): "You really kind of screwed her over, to be honest with you...as soon as you had the chance, you sorta...stabbed her in the back."
Jenny defends her actions:
Jenny (05:54): "I was put in a really, really strange position...I think that I did what I had to do."
The hosts and Jenny then banter about whether Sally would have done the same, with contrasting views on cutthroat workplace loyalty.
Jenny claims respect among coworkers, longer tenure, and better performance (though admits she can't "officially" quantify her greater productivity).
She rebuts Sally’s criticism of her as a working mom, noting her strong work ethic even with family priorities.
Jenny (07:08): "I’m just kind of respect it a little bit more...I actually do everything that's set out for me to do and more. I think I'm more productive than she is...I just think anybody in the office would agree with me on that."
Addresses Sally's personal attacks with a sly, dismissive tone— leaning into the hosts’ playful style.
Jenny (09:24): "Well, you know, it’s true. That’s just true. I wouldn't, you know, make something like that."
When pressed about direct bottom-line impact, Jenny gives an honest but unprepared answer:
Burt (09:29): "Who contributes to the bottom line more?" Jenny (09:43): "I was hired before Sally was, so I would think...that I’m more productive, money-wise, more than she is. I might have to get somebody to back that up..."
Multiple callers are unimpressed. They argue that both Sally and Jenny lack professionalism—failing to prepare, bickering on air, and criticizing each other rather than focusing on their own qualifications.
Caller Maria (10:11): "They both should be fired...It's supposed to be a job interview, and they come on the radio. I didn't prepare."
Caller Chrissy (10:43): "In a job interview, you never say anything negative about...your past employees. Never. Because that's automatically a no. No."
Some criticism also targets the boss for his unprofessional handling.
Caller Chrissy (11:08): "I don't think the boss deserves his job. I mean, how unprofessional it is to do this."
The hosts note the relatively low-level position but acknowledge it's a significant financial increase at stake.
The issue of women "competing" is raised, with hosts and callers both poking fun and criticizing how quickly the contest turned personal.
Jen (08:53): "My favorite thing on the Burt Show is women in competition. Like that is such a beautiful thing to watch." Caller 2 (14:20): "Put two women in competition, they immediately just start attacking each other. It's like those old dating shows."
Jenny expresses hope that listeners will assess her fairly, even though she spent most of her time defending herself, and acknowledges the odd, public format.
Jenny (13:11): "I hope that listeners would really hear...what I had to say today. Even if I was mostly on the defensive...I would just hope that they can decide with...the most information that I gave."
Hosts wrap by saying that the voting will be open for listeners, and the outcome will be revealed next week.
Burt (13:48): "We'll put both of these on air interviews up online and listeners will vote over the next couple of days, and early next week, we'll get the boss on and we'll tell him what the results were."
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 01:32 | Burt | "They can both make their pitch on the Burt Show, and then the listeners can vote on who gets the raise." | | 03:03 | Burt | "She was ripping on so many other people that she really sort of got off message." | | 04:52 | Jen | "Well, it depends on your definition of positive, right? If positive, you mean messy." | | 05:43 | Burt | "You really kind of screwed her over, to be honest with you...stabbed her in the back." | | 07:08 | Jenny | "I feel like around the office, I’m just kind of respected a little bit more...I just think I’m a more agreeable, more helpful co-worker than she is." | | 08:53 | Jen | "My favorite thing on the Burt Show is women in competition." | | 10:11 | Caller Maria | "They both should be fired...I want the money, I need this work right now...Like, get real, shut up." | | 11:08 | Caller Chrissy | "I don't think the boss deserves his job. I mean, how unprofessional it is to do this." | | 14:20 | Caller 2 | "Put two women in competition, they immediately just start attacking each other. It's like those old dating shows." |
The Bert Show maintains its signature blend of authenticity, playful antagonism, and real-talk, using humor and candor to explore workplace rivalry. The hosts and callers don't pull their punches, dissecting office politics, "catty" dynamics, and professional missteps with both empathy and mockery.
This episode transforms a typical workplace dispute into a public vote, exposing the pitfalls of unprofessional showdowns, the importance of positive self-presentation, and the complexities of workplace alliances. Jenny makes her impromptu case while navigating calls about loyalty and professionalism. The audience is left to judge not only who deserves a raise, but what truly counts as respectable workplace behavior.
Next Step: Both women's interviews are posted online, and The Bert Show listeners get the final say. Tune in next week for the boss's response and the dramatic conclusion!