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George
Listen, it's the vert show.
Jeff
You know, when you only have 12 listeners, you'll take anybody, including convicts. We got this guy named George who calls in from jail every now and then just to check in with us. Good morning. Who's this?
George
This is George.
Jeff
Hey, George. What's up?
George
Who's this?
Jeff
This is Burt. You called me, dude.
George
Hey, this Bert?
Jeff
Yeah.
George
All right. Am I on?
Jeff
Yeah, you're on with Jeff and Kim and Melissa.
George
All right, all right. Where's Stacy? Or. Damn, I'm so nervous. What's her name?
Jeff
Lindsay.
George
Lindsay. Yeah.
Jeff
Yeah, Lindsay's doing the Real World Road Rules thing. Where you.
George
Where's she out? Up in Seattle?
Kim
Yeah, no, she's in Cabo.
Jeff
In Cabo? I mean, yeah.
Kim
Oh, yeah, Cabo, Seattle.
Jeff
George, where are you so close?
George
We're in the prison here in USP Atlanta.
Jeff
Are you serious?
George
We're in the prison inside of the prison. Actually, we're in the hole.
Jeff
What are you, like, in solitary confinement or something? You haven't.
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Hers Advertiser
That's.
George
Well, we're orderly.
Jeff
Oh, I thought. Oh, okay. I thought maybe you were one of the prisoners.
George
No, it's me, Flea and Garcia.
Jeff
Is that right?
George
Flea and Garcia. My homeboy.
Jeff
Everybody. You got everybody in the Red Hot Chili Peppers in that thing with you.
Kim
You still gotta. You still have prison names, even if you work there.
Jeff
Hey, do you have a tattoo tear?
George
A tattoo tear?
Jeff
Yeah, one of those tattoo tears.
George
What do you mean?
Jeff
You know, like a tattoo. A tear, right. Coming out of your eye?
George
No, no.
Jeff
Teardrop.
George
You mean teardrop?
Jeff
Yeah, yeah, the teardrop. Yeah. You don't have one of those deals?
George
No, tattoos on our face.
Jeff
What do you do down there, George?
George
What do we do? Yeah. We hang out and do our time.
Kim
Oh, so you are a prisoner.
George
Yeah, I'm a prisoner. I'm not a guard.
Jeff
I thought you said you were an orderly.
George
Yeah, I work here, but I'm a prisoner, dude.
Jeff
Okay, now it's all coming full circle.
George
Okay, there you go.
Jeff
Cool. What'd you do to get in?
George
They say I robbed a bank.
Kim
They say I robbed a bank.
Jeff
Come on, George. Come clean up in Kansas, did you?
George
No.
Jeff
Come on.
George
Yeah, I did. My homeboy got busted with a T. But it was for personal use. It wasn't for. It wasn't. It wasn't to sell.
Jeff
In the overall scheme of things, when you're in prison, which is a higher pride factor, the bag of weed or robbing a bank.
George
It's all good.
Kim
So, what do you do all the time?
George
What do we do?
Jeff
Yeah.
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When you say you're an orderly, what.
Jeff
Does that job entail?
George
We clean up. You know, make sure that the hall's clean and sweep and mop and trying to take care of the place.
Jeff
Is this like a maximum security prison place?
George
Yeah, no doubt. This is the high max. It's a penitentiary.
Jeff
Jail is fascinating. This is like a little Scared Straight thing going on for me right now.
Kim
Did you call us collect?
George
Yeah.
Kim
Oh, cool.
George
Yeah, I've been wanting to call for the last few months. I just don't get time, you know, I Ain't got time. I've been real busy.
Kim
You got nothing but time, my friend.
George
Yeah, I'm busy. This call was from a federal prison.
Kim
That's on.
Jeff
That was confirmation right there. Did you hear that? George, could you hear that?
George
Yeah, I hear it every day.
Jeff
So, what, you get like, one call a day or something?
George
No, we get all the calls we want.
Jeff
Really? Really. Okay. Yeah.
Kim
But we're paying for this, right?
George
Yeah. All right, well, we can pay for it, too, but I don't have y' all on my list, you know?
Jeff
Well, put us on your list. You're fun to talk to.
George
I'm waiting to get transferred from here.
Jeff
Where you going?
George
I'm not sure.
Jeff
They don't tell you where?
George
No, I'm waiting. Yeah, they'll tell me once they designate me, but I haven't been designated yet.
Jeff
Do you have, like, a group of guys that all hang out together and protect each other like they did in Shawshank?
George
Yeah, a little bit. Something like that.
Jeff
You do?
George
Yeah.
Jeff
And you guys all got each other's backs?
George
Yeah.
Jeff
Really?
Kim
Did you ever see the movie Shawshank?
George
Yeah.
Kim
Great movie.
George
Yeah.
Jeff
So how much time you have left?
George
I've got five years left.
Jeff
Oh, man. Did anybody get hurt in the robbery?
George
No, no, no.
Jeff
In the alleged robbery?
George
No, no, no.
Jeff
You were driving the car, weren't you?
George
No, no, I went in by myself.
Kim
How did that. So let me.
Jeff
How's that? I'll go down.
Kim
Let me take you back. You're sitting at home and you need some money, right? So you say, I'm gonna go to the bank, right. And rob it.
George
Withdraw and make a.
Jeff
Withdraw.
Kim
So. So what's the.
Jeff
What's the plan?
Kim
Like, what's the process like?
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Do you.
George
I want to try to get at least what I would earn in a year, you know, on a regular job. I figured 23, 25,000.
Kim
Okay, so you walked into the bank.
Jeff
So now we've got motivations. 25 grand.
Kim
Did you pass a note or did you do everybody get on the floor?
George
Exactly. Everybody get on the floor.
Jeff
Oh, you had a gun. You had a gun.
George
Yeah.
Kim
Oh, see, that'll screw you up every time.
George
Yeah, the gun. The gun. The gun messes you up.
Jeff
You wouldn't have really shot anybody with that thing, would you?
George
No, no, I just wanted the money.
Kim
So then you go up to the teller and you go, give me all the money. And they. They. They give you all the money.
George
Right.
Kim
And then. Then you leave and then you run.
Jeff
Well, then they hit the silent alarm thing and Then they busted you or what?
George
No, they got me. They got me a while later at a hotel. SWAT team. They had already been on me for days.
Jeff
Oh, yeah.
Kim
Oh, really?
Jeff
So this wasn't the first thing that you've done?
George
No, no. I was on, like, a spree.
Jeff
You. You robbed a bunch of different banks?
George
Yeah.
Jeff
How many?
George
Oh, I don't want to go into that.
Jeff
Oh, come on. Just you and me.
George
That could. That could jeopardize me.
Kim
Let's play the over under game five.
George
Wow.
Jeff
But you never killed anybody. Never, never, never. All right. Because then all of a sudden, it gets serious. Q100 listeners aren't murderers. They're just bank robbers. Come on.
George
Hey, y' all do a good job there.
Jeff
Thanks, man. You guys get to listen down there?
George
Yeah, I will get to listen.
Jeff
How are they rehabilitating you?
George
They're not. We just do time. You can't rehabilitate a hardcore criminal.
Jeff
You can't. So what you're saying is, once you get back out, you're gonna start robbing banks again.
George
No, no. You learn by being in here a significant amount of time. You learn that you don't want to be here no more.
Kim
Next time you stand in the bank, you're going to think, you know what? Maybe I should put this gun away and just leave. Because I spent the last 10 years of my life.
George
Yeah, you learned.
Jeff
How old a guy are you?
George
I'm 38.
Jeff
And how long have you spent in jail total in your life in jail?
George
10.
Jeff
10 years, man. That's a long time out of your life, man. I bet you're done with that.
George
Yeah, but there's guys that's done more.
Jeff
Yeah, it's those guys that are in there forever, probably, that you gotta watch out for, right?
George
Yeah.
Jeff
You have a family on the outside?
George
Yeah.
Jeff
You do?
George
I got a wife and two kids, and I've got a mother and all that.
Jeff
And she's standing by you during this whole time?
George
No, that. That don't happen.
Jeff
Nah, she bailed.
George
Yeah, we still talk.
Kim
You gotta get any shout outs to anybody up in.
George
Actually, she's sick. You know, she's sick with leukemia. Oh, geez, man, we still talk.
Kim
You want to say hi to anybody, either on the outside or in the big house?
George
No, I want to say hi to Lindsey.
Jeff
You picked the wrong time. She's not here.
George
Yeah, I know. But Melissa's cool, too.
Jeff
Yeah, she is.
George
Yeah, Melissa's cool.
Kim
All y', all, Melissa's. Melissa's like the women in prison. If you know what I Mean, I.
George
Know, I know, I know. I know the story.
Jeff
A bunch of those.
George
She's cool with it, you know, she carries it well. She's real professional.
Kim
Yeah, she does.
Jeff
Thank you. I appreciate that. How often a day are you approached by guys to have sex?
George
Never.
Jeff
Never? It never happens?
George
No.
Kim
So you're the approacher.
George
No, no, I don't want that.
Jeff
So. That stuff does not happen in jail.
George
Yeah, but not. They know who to go to and who not to, you know?
Jeff
Well, I watched Shawshank, and they made some of those guys do it.
George
No, they don't happen like that.
Kim
Like, do they do the whole new fish thing?
George
Yeah. Yeah. Not here, though, because most of the guys here are career criminals already. You know, most of these guys have already done time. They've been. They've been through the system somewhere, sometime, some point in their life, you know, this is. This is the bottom of the barrel.
Jeff
When did you say you're getting out?
George
Five years.
Jeff
Five years, man.
Kim
Oh, we'll be so fired by then. I tell you to stop by, but.
Jeff
We'Re not gonna be right by then.
Kim
That's about four years into our retirement plan.
George
That ain't nothing, man. Yeah, we're fitting to get cut off. Only got about, like, one minute left, so. All right, good talking to y'. All. Doing a good job.
Jeff
Put us on your list and call every now and then, all right? All right, I'll do that. Walk backwards.
George
Listen, it's the Vert show.
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Jeff
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George
You look the same.
Kim
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George
You haven't changed your hair in 15 years.
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Release Date: October 27, 2025
Host: Pionaire Podcasting
Guests/Co-hosts: Jeff, Kim, Melissa, George (calling from jail)
This episode features a candid and often lighthearted check-in call from George, a longtime listener who is calling from behind bars in USP Atlanta. The conversation dives into the realities of prison life, George’s history, perspectives on crime and rehabilitation, and his connections outside prison. The Bert Show’s hosts balance humor and empathy as they navigate George’s stories and provide listeners with a glimpse into the world inside prison walls.
[01:59–03:23]
Notable Quote:
“I work here, but I’m a prisoner, dude.”
—George [03:20]
[03:25–06:45]
Notable Quotes:
“I want to try to get at least what I would earn in a year, you know, on a regular job. I figured 23, 25,000.”
—George [05:47]
“I was on, like, a spree.”
—George [06:32]
[04:05–05:11]
Memorable Moment:
Jeff asking, “You got everybody in the Red Hot Chili Peppers in that thing with you?” referencing George’s friends “Flea and Garcia” [02:46].
[07:03–07:24]
On whether prison rehabilitates:
“They’re not. We just do time. You can’t rehabilitate a hardcore criminal.”
—George [07:05]
However, he adds, “You learn by being in here a significant amount of time. You learn that you don’t want to be here no more.”
—George [07:12]
[07:45–08:11]
Notable Quote:
“Actually, she’s sick. You know, she’s sick with leukemia. Oh, geez, man, we still talk.”
—George [08:00]
[07:25–09:20]
Memorable Exchange:
Jeff: “How much time you have left?”
George: “I’ve got five years left.” [05:17]
Jeff: “How long have you spent in jail total in your life in jail?”
George: “10.” [07:26]
“Do you have a tattoo tear?”
— Jeff [02:57]
(Light moment: exploring prison stereotypes)
“You don’t have one of those deals?”
— Jeff [03:08]
George: “No, tattoos on our face.”
“What’s the plan… Like, what’s the process like?”
— Kim [05:44]
“The gun messes you up.”
— George [06:07]
“Did anybody get hurt in the robbery?”
— Jeff [05:18]
George: “No, no, no.”
This episode offers listeners a frank, unvarnished peek into life in federal prison through the eyes of George, a self-described career criminal now reflecting on the toll of his choices. The hosts strike a balance between empathy and humor, maintaining the signature Bert Show style while allowing George’s experiences and personality to shine through.
Key Takeaway:
Despite the humor and banter, the conversation delivers sobering insights into the consequences of crime, the challenges of rehabilitation, and the enduring importance of human connection, both inside and outside the prison walls.