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Co-host
Jake from the Bachelor. Now Dancing with the Stars. Oh, yeah. Sing it, Jake.
Come on, man.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Great. That's wonderful.
Co-host
A song if you've never heard.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Stuck in my head since early October.
Co-host
I was gonna say if you never heard this song again in your life, you'd probably be so happy.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
That and roses. I never thought. I never thought I'd get sick of roses.
Co-host
When they came to you and they said that they were gonna use that song over and over and over on your show. Are you like, come on, guys. Come on.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Well, you know, they were kind of looking for a little bit of an edge. You know, they're like, what can we do with Jay? I was like, hey, the pilot thing. So they, you know, we milked it, you know, every drop out.
Interviewer
Yes, they did. Jake, my first question, because I was a huge fan of your season of the show is what you thought of the skank who was hooking up with the camera guy behind the scenes. What was up with that?
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Oh, Rosalynn. Yeah, that was. I tell you what. Just, you know, to give you a real, real honest answer that took everybody by surprise. I'm putting myself back there that night. You know, I was actually sitting under one of the awnings with Christina, the restaurant manager. Shell, you know, and Chris Harrison came and interrupted our conversation. And it's always kind of scary when he walks in the room. And so, you know, the hair on my neck started to stand up thinking, oh, great, something's happening. And it's funny. He apologized. He said, look, man, I'm. As your friend, I am really sorry about what I'm getting ready to have to tell you. He Said, I wish I could this one go away. And when he said that, I thought maybe a relative of mine had died or something. I had no idea. But that put the entire Bachelor franchise really in a tough spot legally. And when you have an employee that crosses the line like that, it just sucks.
Interviewer
Well, she was pretty hot. I can understand why the cameraman wanted that. But then when she was confronted about the whole thing, she was like, that's my personal life. And you're not allowed to ask about that.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Everybody's like, I read the contract. That's kind of what reality TV is.
Interviewer
Exactly, exactly. There's no, there's no such thing as privacy in reality tv, right?
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Nope. But, you know, I. I think Roswell is doing well now. You know, there's no ill will, though. I mean, it made the show really interesting, kind of at her expense.
Co-host
But there was some controversy there for a while, like tabloid controversy that I don't know anybody got any closure on. And I want to address it with you because maybe now is the time that you say, okay, let me just tell you what was all going on. We have some friends in radio down in Panama City, and while the whole show was going on, they had this girl call up one day. Her name is Tanya Douglas, and she was claiming that she was in a relationship with you while you were on the show dating the other people. And I just wanna play like a 30 second clip of what she claims is her truth. Okay.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
All right.
Listener/Caller
We dated from May until October of 2009. We met on an airplane in July of 2008. And then he says, tanya, I just want to let you know that ever since I first saw you get on the plane in Asheville, I've never loved anyone more. While we're texting back and forth, he's pleading with me, please tell them no comment. Please don't comment at all. The media is vicious. They will make this terribly ugly. And I thought, for someone who has nothing to hide, what is this that the media is making ugly?
Co-host
That was on our Frank Kramer show down in Panama City. Is there any grain of truth in
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
that at all that I had a relationship while I was on the show? Absolutely none. That is fabricated. Did you have a relationship and what was it like being in a relationship with someone with such an annoying voice? You know, all of the women that I have ever dated, you know, have been super high caliber. And it just, you know, I tell you what's really surprising. And it's happened, you know, as I've gone through this journey on the Bachelor. Now, Dancing with the Stars is you really find out a lot about people. You know, some people that I was really, really close with, you know, are now no longer friends. And some acquaintances that I really didn't know never thought that they would be great friends, have stepped up, and we're now best friends. So you really find out a lot about people.
Co-host
What did. What happened.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
The one thing that's really nasty about all of this is I found that the tabloids not only pay for pictures, but they'll pay for editorial. And when you wave a quarter in somebody's face, it's amazing what they'll say about you. What they'll make up about you, is
Co-host
that when you talk about close people, do they take advantage of your stardom to try to, you know, kind of propel themselves?
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Not not only in that case, but several others? So it's, you know, I. Fame is not what it's cracked up to be, you know, so, you know, all those, you know, probably all the kids listening this morning, you know, I'd love to be famous and be on TV and everything. TV part, you know, that's really. That's. That's fun. But the fame part, it's not real.
Co-host
But that said, you still signed up for Dancing with the Stars, which isn't the same kind of reality TV show, but it certainly keeps you, you know, in the spot.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Yeah, you're absolutely right. It does. I did it because I wanted to learn to dance. You know, when you're 10 years old, it's not really that cool to be able to dance. But, you know, when you're 32, be able to turn a girl on a dance shoot, it's like being on a date and playing the piano for the girl. It's just the end.
Interviewer
Yeah.
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And you're newly engaged to Vienna, and you're engaged to Vienna right now. Are you teaching any of her your dance moves?
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
You know what? A lot of people ask me that question. The dance moves, you know, are somewhat complex. What she does is she'll. She sits there with. Or she stands there with me, and I'll frame up and I'll practice some of my steps just with, you know, just having somebody to kind of counterbalance me. But I haven't taught her the routines yet. I think Chelsea's gonna choreograph the. Once we set a wedding date. Choreographed the wedding dance, though.
Interviewer
Now, Jake, do you think. Do you think if Allie had left the show, you would still be engaged to be Vienna?
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Yes, I. Nothing would have changed. Ally, you know, wanted to come back onto the show. And I just knew in my heart that, you know, there was somebody. Somebody else out there for Ally. And, you know, she's doing her own season now, and I have every faith in the world that she's going to wind up happy, you know, at the end of her season.
Interviewer
I'm excited to see it. Are you going to be watching it?
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Oh, gosh, yeah. Vienna and I both are Ally fans. Heck, yeah.
Co-host
Oh, good.
Cool.
Listener/Caller
Awesome.
Co-host
All right, Jake, we know you got to run. You got a million of these to do, But I'll tell people to watch dancing with the stars. Even though the whole country is already
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
all about votes, they can vote seven times this Monday. It's what you vote during the show and up to 30 minutes after it's over. And votes are. That is where it is. That's how you keep people on there. And I just wanted to tell everybody, thank you so much for voting. I used to live in Vinings, actually.
Co-host
Oh, you don't think I knew that?
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
I consider Atlanta a second home. I fly for a giant airline out of Atlanta.
Co-host
Oh, is that right?
Well, cool. Well, the next time you're in Atlanta, stop on by here, man.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Yes, please do. And I'll definitely do it. I appreciate you having me on this morning.
Co-host
All right, Jake. Thanks a lot, man. Appreciate it.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Thank you.
Co-host
Bye.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Bye.
Co-host
When do you dance? With you? I know.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
I'll show him my dance.
Interviewer
Oh, you got some moves for Jake.
Co-host
So what was he saying about that clip? That pretty much none of it's true and she was just doing it for a buck.
Interviewer
Yeah, yeah.
Co-host
He never denied knowing that woman. But he was saying that while he was on the show, he never had a relationship. She's a little bitter.
You know what she is?
What?
Interviewer
She's on the wings. But you know what, Bert? She can't get into the cockpit.
Co-host
The Marconi is won.
Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
It's over.
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Jake (Guest, former Bachelor contestant and Dancing with the Stars participant)
Hey, everybody.
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Air Date: July 23, 2026
Host: The Bert Show (Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy & cast)
Guest: Jake (Former Bachelor contestant, Dancing with the Stars participant)
This episode features a lively and candid interview with Jake, best known for his time as The Bachelor and his follow-up appearance on Dancing with the Stars. The Bert Show team dives into behind-the-scenes Bachelor drama, persistent tabloid rumors, and Jake’s reflections on fame, relationships, and his latest endeavors. The mood is light, self-deprecating, and often irreverent, in line with the show’s signature morning-show humor.
“Stuck in my head since early October.” — Jake (01:06)
“That put the entire Bachelor franchise really in a tough spot legally. And when you have an employee that crosses the line like that, it just sucks.” — Jake (01:50)
"Absolutely none. That is fabricated... I found that the tabloids not only pay for pictures, but they’ll pay for editorial. And when you wave a quarter in somebody’s face, it’s amazing what they’ll say about you." — Jake (04:32, 05:20)
“Fame is not what it’s cracked up to be... The TV part is fun. But the fame part, it’s not real.” — Jake (05:41)
“When you’re 10 years old, it’s not really that cool to be able to dance. But, you know, when you’re 32, be able to turn a girl on a dance shoot, it’s like being on a date and playing the piano for the girl. It’s just the end.” — Jake (06:08)
“I just knew in my heart that, you know, there was somebody else out there for Ally… I have every faith in the world that she’s going to wind up happy, you know, at the end of her season.” — Jake (07:04)
“That is where it is. That’s how you keep people on there.” — Jake (07:35)
This episode offers a fun, fast-paced look behind the reality TV curtain with Jake, delving into infamous Bachelor scandals, the burden of public scrutiny, and the surprising realities of short-lived fame. With candid admissions, humor, and fan service, it’s a memorable vault pick for listeners wanting the real story and some solid morning laughs.