Vault: Jenna's Antichrist

Summary

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The Bert Show – "Vault: Jenna's Antichrist" (Nov 19, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this episode, The Bert Show takes a dive into listener Tina’s harrowing story about her so-called “dating Antichrist”—an ex-boyfriend whose abusive and criminal behavior haunted her and her family for years. With help from private investigator Sandra at MateCheck, the team uncovers what has happened to Tina’s ex and provides both Tina and her mother, Ann, some long-awaited peace of mind. The conversation explores the deep, lingering trauma caused by abusive relationships, the importance of background checks in dating, and the resilience needed to reclaim your life after abuse.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Defining the "Dating Antichrist"

• Burt introduces the theme: “This is the person that you completely sold out for... No matter how abusive they were… you went back time and time again…” (01:38)
• The cast likens it to repeatedly giving in to a childhood bully, with increasingly destructive consequences for self-esteem and well-being. (02:02)

2. Tina’s Story: Surviving Abuse

• Tina describes a year-and-a-half-long relationship marked by verbal and physical abuse, control, and fear.
  • “We went on vacation one time and he kicked me across the room because I was talking to people that he met in a bar.” (02:54)
  • “He caused this huge scene in the bar… said, if you don’t come home, I’m bringing my gun down there and I’m gonna get you…” (03:02)
• Tina reveals, “Yes. And I finally was like, just do it. It’s better than being with you...” after he threatened her with a gun, showing how deep the despair ran. (03:28)

3. Ann’s Perspective: A Mother’s Fear

• Ann (Tina’s mom) confides: “For the 18 months she dated him, every time the phone rang, my heart would stop. I thought this would be the call that she was dead.” (04:16)
• Ann voices her ongoing fear for her granddaughter’s safety, knowing the ex’s violent tendencies: “…if he’s still alive and affected on the young ladies, I could just have him exterminated. He doesn’t need to be faint walking to the face of the earth.” (05:06)
• The whole family lived in constant fear, even organizing a support network to help Tina escape. (06:03)

4. The Value of Background Checks – Sandra from MateCheck

• Sandra (PI) advocates strongly for background searches before dating:
  • “This could have saved Tina all this misery, her family all this misery…” (07:56)
  • Background checks can cover everything from DUIs and sex offender registry to civil judgments—taking 3 to 5 days, sometimes with only basic information needed. (09:17)
• Sandra shares a cautionary tale: “Anyways, he ended up beating her so bad, she was in ICU and barely made it out of the hospital.” (10:13)

5. The Investigation Results: What Happened to the Ex?

• Sandra reveals a history of criminal convictions:
  • “Criminal interference with government property... possessed a firearm... driving with a suspended license... simple battery... impersonating an officer...” (12:03)
  • “He was in and out of prison, you know, probation, back in jail. And then the latest thing… disorderly conduct.” (13:36)
• Reassurance for Tina & Ann:
  • The ex is no longer living in Atlanta or even Georgia. “It appears he is not in Atlanta.” (14:51)
  • He does not have a job, house, or marriage – essentially “loser across the board.” (16:13)
  • Final relief: “So, Tina, you can walk away with this… knowing at least he’s a safe distance away. He hasn’t changed at all…” (16:29)

6. Aftermath & Advice for Listeners

• Tina’s perspective: “I got over it. I love my life now, so that’s good for me. But, you know, it sucks that I hurt my parents like that.” (11:19)
• Sandra: “You should recommend to anybody that, you know that's dating, to get this background check first, because if you would have known this, you could have avoided all that pain and suffering up until this day.” (15:16)

7. Behind the Scenes: Covert Decoy Work

• Sandra shares about decoy investigations to test a partner’s fidelity:
  • “We have decoys that will wire themselves up, go to where he will be… and just approach… to see if he’ll pick up on the decoy, what he will say…” (17:47)
  • Sandra, a 12-year veteran in this field, shares she’s had some “good background searches… and saved some people like Tina before it has happened.” (18:58)

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Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

"For the 18 months she dated him, every time the phone rang, my heart would stop. I thought this would be the call that she was dead." – Ann (Tina’s Mom), (04:16)

"Yes. And I finally was like, just do it. It's better than being with you." – Tina, recalling the moment her ex threatened her with a gun (03:28)

“This type of person that you were dating can only overpower you and brainwash you because he is a very bad person… it's not because you're weak.” – Sandra (MateCheck), (12:03)

"You didn't make a mistake, that's for sure. Breaking up with this guy, that was never even a question in my mind." – Burt, (16:29)

“You should recommend to anybody that, you know that's dating, to get this background check first, because if you would have known this, you could have avoided all that pain and suffering up until this day.” – Sandra (MateCheck), (15:16)

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Key Timestamps

• 01:38 – Burt introduces the concept of the "dating Antichrist"
• 02:45–03:36 – Tina details the abuse from her ex
• 04:09–06:16 – Ann shares the mother's perspective and ongoing fears
• 07:56–09:17 – Introduction of MateCheck and the value of comprehensive background checks
• 12:03–13:48 – Sandra details the ex’s criminal background
• 14:51–16:13 – Update on ex’s current location and status; reassurance for Tina and Ann
• 17:47–19:42 – Sandra explains covert decoy work and reveals case outcomes in Atlanta

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Tone and Takeaways

The tone of the episode strikes a candid, empathetic balance—The Bert Show’s signature mix of real talk, occasional humor, and authentic warmth. The hosts create a supportive environment for Tina and her mom, interspersing moments of lightness to soften the gravity of the material. The episode’s central message is preventative: listeners should protect themselves and their loved ones through background checks and vigilance, with a strong emphasis on reclaiming life and community after abuse.

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For more info on Sandra and MateCheck, visit matecheckpi.com or the show’s website.

Transcript

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[Burt]

The Birch Show. We all have one in our past dating Antichrist. This is the person that you completely sold out for. Doesn't matter how abusive they were in the relationship, how bad the relationship was, how many times they figuratively slapped you in the face. You went back time and time again and sold out time and time again.

[Co-host]

I thought, I thought earlier. It is like in elementary school, the bully that takes your lunch money. That's who you dated and you kept giving the lunch money and then eventually you felt bad about yourself because you you kept giving them the money and you never stopped and then they ended up leaving you.

[Burt]

We make the offer to you Guys, that's how it always ends, too, right? The final slap in the face as they take off. So we make the offer to you guys, if you have, like this morbid curiosity just to know what's going on in their life, give us a call. We will turn it over to our private investigator, who is Sandra over at Maycheck, that you guys can use personally also, and she will find this person, and we will tell you exactly how they're doing on Friday. We talked to Tina, and this was her story and her dating Antichrist story. Hey, Tina.

[Tina]

Hi.

[Burt]

How long was the relationship?

[Tina]

It was only a year and a half.

[Burt]

Give us some examples of why this guy is absolutely your dating Antichrist.

[Sandra]

He was definitely verbally abusive.

[Tina]

I was really tiny, maybe £100. We went on vacation one time and he kicked me across the room because I was talking to people that he met in a bar. And then in Atlanta. We lived in Atlanta, and my friend and I were out one night and he got really, really upset that we were out. And he kept saying, come home, come home. He caused this huge scene in the bar and said, if you don't come home, I'm bringing my gun down there and I'm gonna get you back out of that bar. Everything you can imagine that a psycho would do to you, that's what he did.

[Burt]

This guy literally put a gun to your head?

[Tina]

Well, I mean, if you want the real crazy part of the story. Yes. And I finally was like, just do it. It's better than being with you. Oh, wow. And so my roommate called the cops, was not supposed to have a gun, and he freaked out because I found out later on in the relationship that he was a convicted felon.

[Burt]

So chances are pretty good. I mean, a guy like this doesn't generally turn it around and become a priest, you know? So I have a feeling we're not gonna find out. Great information here, Jeff. Can you turn the voice disguiser on?

[Hers Healthcare Rep]

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[Burt]

This is Tina's mom, actually, Ann. Hey, Ann. Good morning.

[Tina]

Good morning.

[Burt]

There's probably more at stake here for you than there is your daughter.

[Tina]

Tina called in because I asked her to.

[Burt]

Right.

[Tina]

I've always been terrified of this man because he is evil. And for the 18 months she dated him, every time the phone rang, my heart would stop. I thought this would be the call that she was dead.

[Burt]

Really?

[Tina]

Yeah. He was really bad. And two, our family wasn't equipped. This type person, her dad and I had never run across anybody like this. And Glenna was so strong minded, we just couldn't Understand how he had taken over control of her.

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[Tina]

Leave me alone. You know, And I just. It was unbearable because the child he threatened to rape at that time was seven months old. Oh, God.

[Co-host]

Oh, no.

[Tina]

That he was going to have. Right. With seven months.

[Hers Healthcare Rep]

Okay.

[Tina]

And so he is a sleaze. I wish I had an extra service that if he's still alive and affected on the young ladies, I could just have him exterminated. He doesn't need to be faint walking to the face of the earth. But really, Tina did this for me because I've always worried. And now My granddaughter is 12, and, you know, I worry about her being out there and him still doing something that crazy. Just slipping back in town, because after they broke up, he would actually. We would actually see him in the neighborhood chasing our house. So she did this for my peace of mind because I would really, like, know he was in jail and that he hadn't hurt anybody else.

[Burt]

Yeah. This kind of fear can't really go away when, you know you're dealing with this kind of evil. Like, I. I don't know how you can ever, like, really tie up loose ends unless you know that the guy is in jail. You know, that's.

[Tina]

And like I say, when he kicked her across the room, he was a black belt kickboxing champion.

[Burt]

God, this guy. You talk about evil. My God.

[Tina]

And then the other problem, you know, is my husband and his friends were always plotting how they could do him in. You know, the fight was, you can't do that because he'll win. He might be dead, but you'll be doing time in jail. You can't do that. And we had to be there for Glenna. We actually had a team that when she would call and say, okay, I'm moving out, we had friends that would show up and help us move around.

[Burt]

Was there anything.

[Contributor]

Let's go. Like, some people have that when they, you know, get married. He proposed. Okay, let's go. And then all the girls entered the house plan and everything. They've got the same thing, though, but for the end of the relationship. Let's go. You get the furniture, you pack up her clothes.

[Burt]

Is it the kind of thing like, you just used to get, like, mad at her time and time again when she used to go back, because not only is she putting herself in harm's way, but, I mean, you're talking about the whole family.

[Tina]

But he had a control over her. And we did know that he had. That he was evil. He had a badge that he would flash to the Policeman. The night that he pulled the gun on her, she actually, he. The police were on his side.

[Burt]

That's how the dating Antichrist works. You can get the police to work on your side also.

[Tina]

Okay. You mean I forgot to get into work. I got set up for a meeting.

[Burt]

Okay.

[Tina]

But thank you for doing this for her.

[Co-host]

Thank you, Anne. Sorry. I hope we have works out.

[Burt]

Yeah. I hope we have good news for you.

[Tina]

All right, thank you.

[Burt]

For whatever reason, we had Tina on the phone, but I think her phone has dropped out.

[Co-host]

Okay.

[Burt]

So we're waiting to get her back on, but in the meantime, let's get Sandra from mate check back on.

[Tina]

Hello.

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

Good morning.

[Burt]

Good morning. How are you?

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

I'm just fine. How is Atlanta, Georgia doing?

[Burt]

Doing okay. Hopefully you're gonna tell us it's a little bit of a safer place here in a couple of minutes. Sandra, while we're getting Tina back on the phone, for those that haven't heard this segment before, tell them exactly what it is that mate check does.

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

MateCheck Private Investigations, which you can reach me at matecheckpi.com does do these kind of background searches. And after hearing this story and finding out the information that I have found out on this person, I recommend that Atlanta, Georgia, everybody that you're seeing dating online, met at a bar, met through a friend, get a background search done. I mean, this could have saved Tina all this misery, her family all this misery years ago if they would have known what kind of character he was or if somebody happened to be dating this character. Now, you'd certainly want to know what kind of person he is and what he has done, which you'd probably be capable of doing it again. So even though I do video surveillance and covert decoy work, I find people skip tracing. But I always mention to all my clients, get a background search if you are dating somebody or met somebody, because you never know. And you can ask Tina who they're going to be.

[Burt]

Now you can hire mate check yourself. And we have linked on over to Machezheck from our website at allthehitsq100.com someone's.

[Co-host]

Responding to being on our website. They're calling her right now.

[Burt]

Yeah, I'm just curious, like, how long does a background check generally take you to do to get that kind of peace of mind for somebody you're going out with?

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

Usually between three to five days. It all depends. It's a complete national background search. So it takes a while to run their social, which I can get. If the person doesn't have it I really only need a little bit of information. A name, state they're in, a date of birth or approximate date. And then I have to pull up their social, run their social, and then it has to run through all counties and all courts. And you'll get everything. Traffic tickets, DUIs, registered sex offender, criminal, civil bankruptcies, liens, all the information that you want to know about a person that you're seeing.

[Burt]

Do you find that generally, like, let's say somebody's going out with a guy, right? And they really don't have anything, I mean, to be curious about. Like, guy seems like a straight up guy, but they go ahead, they hire you out, you find some really nasty stuff out about this guy that happened 15 years ago. Do you find that generally, what is it? A leopard doesn't change at spots?

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

Well, absolutely, because if you will see the pattern in my background searches, if you'll see the past, now they're calling. Like some people call and say, you know, this is not right. He's doing this and that. And, you know, the pattern is reoccurring. I had one case that this background came out that he had domestic violence, but it was some years ago. And my client, the female client, said, well, that's okay. He seems nice to me and my son. And anyways, he ended up beating her so bad, she was in ICU and barely made it out of the hospital.

[Burt]

Oh, she's horrible. Awful, awful stories, man. All right, Sandra, I'm gonna put you on the voice disguise or only because I have to put Tina on the voices. Guys are years now since she's gone out with the guy, yet she still has to protect her identity. Right, because she's still freaked out by this guy.

[Co-host]

Of course.

[Burt]

Yeah, yeah, you can totally understand it.

[Contributor]

Once you have a gun pulled on, you're gonna be nervous for a while.

[Tina]

Right?

[Co-host]

Understandable.

[Burt]

Hey, Tina.

[Tina]

Hey.

[Burt]

How are you doing?

[Tina]

Good.

[Burt]

What was it like for you to listen to your mom kind of tell about the time that you were going out with this guy?

[Tina]

Well, I think it makes me feel bad because obviously it was more traumatic for her. Like, I mean, it's bad for me.

[Sandra]

But I'm one of those people that I like, whatever.

[Tina]

I got over it. I love my life now, so that's good for me. But, you know, it sucks that I hurt my parents like that.

[Burt]

Yeah, I mean, the whole family goes through something like that. And like you said, you just kind of lose yourself. Even your mom said you're this strong willed person, but somehow, some way, the dating antichrist comes around and you just change your personality.

[Tina]

Right.

[Burt]

Some kind of grip on you. All right, Sandra, do you want to tell Tina here what you have found out about her dating Antichrist? And once again, Tina, this was how long ago that you dated this guy?

[Tina]

It was like 14 years ago.

[Burt]

Okay, so it was quite a while ago.

[Sandra]

Hi, Tina.

[Tina]

Sandy. Hi. Hi.

[Sandra]

Well, don't feel bad or, you know, tell your mother not to feel bad as well, because this type of person that you were dating can only overpower you and brainwash you because he is a very bad person. So take that, you know, into consideration that it wasn't because you're weak or he, you know, he's a very, very bad person. So the reason why you had so many problems with him and kicking you across the room and holding a gun to your head is because his charges he was in prison for was criminal interference with government property, and he possessed a firearm, a dangerous weapon. And these were all convicted felons. And he got, you know, that was convicted for. He was driving with a suspended, revoked license. He had simple battery. And also, like you said, he was impersonating an officer and also got convicted of felony. Of that as well.

[Burt]

Wow.

[Co-host]

Is that all before she dated him or after?

[Sandra]

This is probably. I don't say date, but this is probably during. Around the time.

[Burt]

Okay.

[Tina]

Like, during. I didn't know all those things.

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[Sandra]

Also, he was also charged with concealed weapon, of course, because he had his weapons concealed. So anyways, then he went to prison and got out of prison and then broke his probation, went back.

[Tina]

Oh, my God, I didn't know any of this. Right.

[Sandra]

And so he was in and out of prison, you know, probation, back in jail. And then the latest thing that he had was disorderly conduct.

[Burt]

Was a what?

[Co-host]

Disorderly conduct.

[Burt]

Oh, disorderly conduct.

[Tina]

Yes.

[Burt]

The timing of that jail that you're talking about, Sandra.

[Tina]

Yes.

[Burt]

Now, Tina has told us that that was about 14 years ago that she dated this guy. She say that 14 years ago. How long ago was he in jail and did he get out?

[Sandra]

I don't want to say exact times and dates, but it was around that area that time.

[Tina]

It was like he was. I know he was there for a couple of years at least, right?

[Burt]

Oh, yeah.

[Sandra]

Well, one sentence alone was. He was convicted for three years, 16 months, 12 years. And they were all served concurrent, so. Meaning you have to serve them together.

[Tina]

So. Yes.

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[Burt]

Is there anything on that record recently?

[Sandra]

The only thing I said was recently was a disorderly conduct.

[Contributor]

And is that like, just A ticket or is that jail time?

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[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

On his case, it was probably jail.

[Sandra]

Time because of his record.

[Burt]

The one thing that was gonna give Tina and her mom some peace of mind is knowing that this guy isn't anywhere near them in Atlanta. Were you able to find out that information?

[Sandra]

Yes, and it appears he is not in Atlanta.

[Co-host]

Is he in the state of Georgia?

[Sandra]

No, he is not.

[Burt]

Oh, good.

[Co-host]

Good. So Tina's mom's gonna feel a lot better. Yes. How many states away could you estimate? Like, how far?

[Tina]

I think I know what state he's probably in, so I'd rather not say.

[Co-host]

Okay, Right.

[Sandra]

She's probably right.

[Tina]

It's not far enough away. Right.

[Burt]

It would have to be continents to.

[Tina]

Be for a person like this.

[Sandra]

I don't know if any. Anything would be far enough away. It's just. It's very good that you got out safe. And, like, you should recommend to anybody that, you know that's dating to get this background check first, because if you would have known this, you could have avoided all that pain and suffering up until this day.

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

So.

[Tina]

So is he not married, like, anything, you know, does he do the same thing now that he used to do? Kids, you know?

[Sandra]

No, none of that. None of that.

[Tina]

So probably the same thing over and over again.

[Sandra]

Well, you know, once you have this criminal record, finding a job is, like, zero. So, you know, a job for this person wouldn't be in his future unless he's working under the table. Some auto mechanic, something probably working, you know, under the table.

[Burt]

There's no indication that he got married or like you said, he's got a current job now that he owns a house. Nothing like that.

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

No.

[Burt]

No property, so loser across the board.

[Sandra]

No vehicles either. But like I said, where is he.

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

Gonna get a job?

[Sandra]

I mean, you know, most jobs do a background search, and with this type of record, it's almost impossible.

[Burt]

So, Tina, you can walk away with this with your family knowing at least he's a safe distance away. He hasn't changed at all. Same guy. You didn't make a mistake, that's for sure. Breaking up with this guy, that was.

[Tina]

Never even a question in my mind.

[Sandra]

And the police were not on his side. It's just that he had a fake badge and he was impersonating an officer, which he did go to prison for. That was one of his. He did get sentenced for that, so, you know, they weren't on his side. It's just in a fake badge.

[Tina]

Right.

[Burt]

The hits just keep on coming.

[Contributor]

Yeah, well, if you're going down Go down hard.

[Burt]

Say that again, Tina.

[Tina]

My mom actually reminded me of that. She's like, did you ever tell me how to fake badge? And I was like, no, I totally forgot about that part. There's so many.

[Burt]

That's what we like to do, is bring up all the pleasant memories. All right, Tina, we'll let you go. You got the information that you want, you can have some peace of mind that the dudes nowhere near you anymore. And he's still as big a loser today as he was then.

[Sandra]

He didn't lose anything.

[Burt]

He didn't lose anything.

[Tina]

Yeah. Thank God. Right?

[Co-host]

Right.

[Tina]

Thanks.

[Burt]

All right, Tina. Bye. Bye.

[Tina]

Thanks, Tina.

[Burt]

All right, we could lose the voice disguiser. Okay, Sandra, once again, for those that want to hire you, the most controversial thing that Sandra does is she will actually go out and make sure your man is being loyal to you. Tell them how you do that.

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

Well, how that works is that's a covert decoy. And if you feel that you want to know if your husband, boyfriend, or fiance, which I recommend, we want to find out if he would pick up on another woman if the opportunity was there, we have decoys that will wire themselves up, go to where he will be working out at the gym, coming off of work, you know, wherever, golf, and just approach yourself. Nothing sexual, just, hi, how are you doing? I'm out of town. You know, where's the closest restaurant? And just see if he'll pick up on the decoy, what he will say if he'll ask the decoy out to lunch or dinner. And then it would be your choice if you'd want to see if he'd follow through with that and see what he would do if he did have the opportunity.

[Burt]

I'm curious, because every time we talk to you, we talk about that service. I'm curious if there are any women in Atlanta that have hired you for that service since we've had you on.

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

Oh, of course I want to know. You know, it's funny because I was driving for the address and looking around, I look up, oh, my God, the bird show.

[Contributor]

And what is the. Can you tell us if anybody has been busted yet in Atlanta.

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

There? I have had some results. I've had some good background searches that I've done in Atlanta and saved some people like Tina before it has happened. And, yeah, I've had some business in landed, definitely, and I have prevailed.

[Co-host]

So, yeah, I want to know who gets hired as the COVID decoy.

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

Well, usually I do or I have other people that you know in different states and counties, depending on where they're at or who they want. I'm just a 12 year veteran of decoys, so I kind of know how to get in and get it done.

[Burt]

So either you fly into Atlanta or you have a bank of people that you know here, a bank of hotties that'll go out and actually do the investigation for you.

[Contributor]

Yes, I have a certificate of deposit with the bank of hotties.

[Burt]

All right, Sandra, once again it's mate check. And we have linked right on over to her website from allthehitsq100.com thank you Sandra.

[Sandra (MateCheck Investigator)]

Well, thank you for having me on.

[Sandra]

You guys have a good week.

[Burt]

Appreciate it. Good work. Thank you. The Burt show.

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