Vault: Not-So-Psycho Sue is back

Summary

The Bert Show

Episode: Vault: Not-So-Psycho Sue is Back

Date: July 23, 2026

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Overview

This episode features the return of "Not-So-Psycho Sue," a recurring listener whose personal drama has become infamous among The Bert Show community. Sue revisits the show following a public incident involving her ex-boyfriend, colloquially known as "Tool," at a comedy club. The hosts and Sue dissect the event, explore the emotional dynamics at play, and offer candid advice, blending empathy with tough love. The discussion centers on boundaries, emotional manipulation, and the challenges of moving on from toxic relationships.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Quick Recap of Sue’s History

• Sue’s complex and tumultuous relationship with "Tool" has been chronicled on the show before.
• The hosts urge new listeners to "go online and listen to the story that led us up to this call" ([01:11] E), emphasizing that the backstory is too involved to recount briefly.

2. The Incident at the Comedy Club

• Sue recounts being out with friends and unexpectedly encountering her ex ("Tool"), who initiated an emotional confrontation ([01:56] F).
• She describes being intoxicated, which made the situation more confusing.
• "He grabbed my arm. He's like, I need to talk to you... he was begging me to come back... told me that if I didn't come back, he would harm himself." ([01:56–02:59] F)
• Sue’s reaction was to tell him not to hurt himself and offered the reassurance, "call me if you need me," under emotional duress.

3. Emotional Manipulation and Guilt

• The hosts discuss the emotional burden placed on someone by a threat of self-harm:
  • "Her knee jerk reaction is absolutely — I mean, that's how you feel. Like, oh my God, I couldn't handle that kind of responsibility." ([03:21] E)
  • "That's why they say it." ([03:32] H)
  • The conversation points out that this kind of threat is sometimes used manipulatively to keep someone emotionally invested.

4. The Challenges of Moving On

• Sue expresses discomfort that people recognized her and were aware of her drama:
  • "I feel, like, embarrassed that people saw it. It's, like, embarrassing more than anything." ([07:18] F)
• She tries to avoid her ex by misleading about her whereabouts on social media. Despite this, chance meetings still occur ([04:13] F).
• The new guy Sue was with intervened, telling her ex to leave ([05:40] F).

5. Host Reactions and Advice

• The hosts blend empathy with tough love:
  • "If you end up in the same place that he's in accidentally, get out. Just go." ([06:31] E)
  • "Some of this drama you're creating, you could have avoided perpetuating." ([06:53] E, [06:55] G)
  • "You are going to turn off so many guys. No guy is going to want to go out with you if... there's this drama..." ([06:56] H)
• They warn that getting dragged into repeated confrontations can poison future relationships.

6. Reflections and Warnings

• Several hosts relate personally, drawing parallels to their own dating missteps.
• "This is your dating Antichrist... I wish I had somebody that was telling me... that this is the guy right here." ([07:31] E)
• Sue is encouraged to have better boundaries, especially when intoxicated, for her own well-being and to avoid enabling the ex’s behavior.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On emotional burden:
  "When somebody tells you that, like, her... knee jerk reaction is absolutely... oh, my God, I couldn't handle that kind of responsibility." — E ([03:21])

• On manipulation:
  "That's why they say it." — H ([03:32])

• On embarrassment driving change:
  "I hate to tell you, Sue, that I’m actually glad it was embarrassing for you so that next time you’ll handle it different, even in a drunken state." — H ([07:53])

• On patterns in toxic relationships:
  "This is your dating Antichrist... I wish I had somebody that was telling me while I was dating my Antichrist that this is the guy right here." — E ([07:31])

• On blocking out advice:
  "You probably had buddies going, 'Oh my God, dude, she's crazy. Get out.' And... you block that out." — A ([07:40])

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Important Timestamps

• 01:01 — Opening of the topic; Sue rejoins the show.
• 01:56–02:59 — Sue’s recounting of the incident, the emotional confrontation, and her state of mind.
• 03:21–03:36 — Hosts break down the emotional burden and manipulation in these situations.
• 04:13–05:10 — Further details of the evening and Sue’s attempts to avoid her ex.
• 05:10–05:40 — Descriptions of attempts at reconciliation and escalation.
• 06:31–06:56 — Advice on boundaries and breaking negative patterns.
• 07:31–07:53 — Reflection on toxic relationships and Sue’s embarrassment as a possible turning point.
• 08:05–08:37 — Show closes out Sue’s segment with encouragement and shared personal reflections.

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Overall Tone

The episode preserves The Bert Show’s trademark authenticity: compassionate, blunt, and humorous. The interplay between hosts and Sue is genuine, mixing empathy for emotional struggles with candid advice and relatable confessions. The conversation is charged with supportive energy, but also pushes for personal accountability and self-preservation.

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Transcript

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The Bird show all right, so we're gonna get not so psycho sue back on here. For those of you that don't know the story, that's really too bad.

[A]

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[E]

It would take way too long to try to explain it to you guys. So go online and listen to the story that led us up to this call. Because we started to get some tweets and some emails earlier this morning from people that said that they were out and they saw sue and Tool at the same bar together and some kind of public argument broke out. We thought this thing over done, you know, and Sue's back on with us. Hey, Sue.

[F]

Hey guys.

[E]

Hey, you're back.

[G]

You are so psycho sue if you are hanging out with this dude.

[F]

I was not hanging out with him. And it's weird that people like know that it was us. I don't know.

[E]

Yeah, it's not like we put you guys pictures up online or anything. So it must have been like a friend of a friend of a friend that must have watched this whole thing go down.

[F]

I guess. I don't know. But I wasn't with him. He. I honestly, I was kind of drunk so I don't remember everything, but I was out with a bunch of friends and we were seeing another friend at a comedy club and he just kind of. I was kind of intoxicated so he grabbed my arm. He's like, I need to talk to you. And I was like really confused. I was like, okay. And so I went outside with him because I didn't want to talk to him in the middle. And he just kind of was, you know, begging me to come back and told me that if I didn't come back, he would harm him himself and he would take his own life and stuff. And so it kind of freaked me out. And I. There wasn't really yell. I think the only thing that was really yelled was me, like, telling him to leave me alone and to go away. And then when he said he was gonna, like, you know, hurt himself, I kind of got, like, concerned. And so I just was like, don't do that. You know? And then the guy that I actually was with kind of just like came outside and he was like, you need to leave. And I told him, I was like, if you ever need. I was like, if you need me later, just call me. But I didn't.

[E]

You offered to him, like, if you need me, give me a call later?

[F]

No, I said like. Because he was like telling me he was going to kill himself. What was I going to say? So I said, if you really.

[H]

He was telling you that. So you said that or something? Yes.

[F]

I didn't really. It wasn't like we were back together or anything like that. I don't know what people are telling you.

[H]

I have.

[E]

Okay, let me just stand up for her for just one second though, okay? Because have you ever been in that situation before?

[H]

Yes.

[E]

You have when somebody tells you that, like, her. But her knee jerk reaction is absolutely like. I mean, that's how you feel. Like, oh, my God, I couldn't handle that kind of responsibility. Really? So, yes, call me later on.

[H]

That's why they say it.

[E]

Because if, like, your thoughts.

[A]

What if they do? Right. If you're in it, you can't say, oh, you're just saying that because then what happens when he gets in his car and drives it into a tree for the rest of your life, but

[H]

he's not going to.

[G]

Somebody told me once that a threat like that can be illegal.

[A]

Really?

[G]

Yeah, that you could file some sort of police report about that, but I don't know exactly what it is or what it would be called. But if somebody threatens you by taking their own life, there's something. Something you can do. I wish I knew more specifically what it is.

[H]

That'd be useful. Well, I was. So I'm just still confused on how you were at the same place. All the places in this city of 5 million people. How are y' all at the same comedy club?

[F]

I see. That's the thing. I don't know because, like, I've even been like, tweeting like, I mean, now I'm gonna give this away. So you do know. But I tweet the opposite of what I'm doing. Like, if I'm going out, I'm like, I'm staying in tonight with my girlfriend. You know, whatever. I don't know how he found out. Obviously, I didn't even, like, tell you guys about it. Someone emailed you guys and told you I was there. So I guess this person might have known him. I don't really know how he found out. I haven't talked to him or had anything to do with him. The last time I really talked about it was when I was in the studio with you guys. I just kind of washed my hands of the situation and didn't really want anything else to do with it. I kind of moved forward and tried to not look back.

[E]

Was he as drunk as you were?

[F]

He wasn't. I don't. He didn't seem drunk, but I don't. I don't.

[A]

You were drunk.

[F]

I couldn't tell because I was really drunk. I don't know.

[E]

And as far as you can remember, he was like, I want. I want you back. Or was he saying, come talk to me.

[F]

I want to work this out. Please, let's work this out. And at first I was like, don't you already have a girlfriend? And then he was like, that doesn't matter. I want to work this out. And I remember him saying that over and over again. And then I remember me yelling and being like, leave me alone. I don't want to be with. With you. Like, I'm not with you. And then he started freaking out because I was there with another guy. And he was just like. He's like, why are you here with someone else? I thought you didn't want a boyfriend. And I was just like, I'm allowed to date other people. And then that's when he was like, well, I'm gonna kill myself if you don't want to be with me.

[G]

And I feel like we're in high school.

[I]

Yeah, it does.

[E]

And this feel like high school to you, Sue?

[F]

Yes. And so I was just like, okay. And I was like, please don't do that. I was like, it's really not worth it. I was like, our relationship's really not worth that. I was like, it really wasn't a good relationship. Like, shouldn't kill yourself over someone like me. Like, I'm not worth it. And then he just kept saying he was going to do it, and then that's when the guy I was There with just kind of was like, come on, let's go inside. He was like, we have been. We're going somewhere else. And. And I was like, I have to go. And he told him, like, you know, don't follow us. You need to, like, go home. And then he was like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. And that's when I was like, call me if you need me, because I don't want you to do something like that. And it wasn't like we were there together. I don't know. We're not together or not anything. And he never called me, so that's good news.

[E]

Where was Fiji when all this was going on?

[F]

I don't know. I don't talk to her. I don't know anything that's going on in her life.

[E]

I think if you. You know what my recommendation for you is? Look, if you end up in the same place that he's in accidentally, get out. Just go. Yeah, you just gotta go. Or this is gonna be the same drama over and over and over again.

[H]

And if he says, I need to talk to you outside, say no, and then just walk away. I mean, nobody physically can drag you out the bar. I mean, some of the.

[E]

Some of this drama you're creating you

[G]

could have avoided perpetuating.

[H]

And you are going to turn off so many guys. No guy is going to want to go out with you. If they take you out and there's this drama and he has to go outside and tell this ex boyfriend to get out of the way. Like, you need to move. You really do need to move on. If he says, let's go outside. No, bye, gotta go.

[E]

Because there's nothing more than this guy would want than for you to fall back for him so he could cut it off and hurt you.

[H]

Yes.

[E]

I mean, that's all ego right there, you know?

[F]

Yeah. I mean, I don't want to be with him. I don't know. I was just. I wasn't really thinking. And so I just kind of went. I don't know. It's just a bad situation. I don't know. I feel, like, embarrassed that people saw it. It's, like, embarrassing more than anything.

[E]

This is your dating Antichrist? I mean, I wish I had somebody that was telling me while I was dating my Antichrist that this is the guy right here. I just went over the woman right here.

[A]

They probably were, but you don't hear them. You probably had buddies going, oh, my God, dude, she's crazy. Get out. And you don't you block that out.

[E]

I wouldn't have listened.

[A]

You don't hear it. Yeah, the sex was just like we're telling you.

[H]

I hate to tell you, sue, that I'm actually glad it was embarrassing for you so that next time you'll handle it different. Even in a drunken stay, you'll be able to say no, you know?

[F]

Yeah, I don't know.

[E]

Well, I'd say keep in touch with us, but you won't have to because the rest of Atlanta will. They'll tell us what's going on every step of the way for some reason. All right, sue, good luck.

[A]

Good luck.

[G]

Good luck with the new guy.

[F]

All right, bye.

[E]

All right, bye. Bye. Yeah, at some point, Wendy, you got to hear this, too. Wendy. Wendy, I know it's me.

[F]

A couple years ago. I know, I'm hearing it.

[E]

Is it Wendy a couple years ago, or is it in a couple of weeks?

[F]

No, I'm hearing it.

[I]

I'm hearing it.

[F]

The same exact thing happened to me. No, yeah, I'm hearing it.

[I]

It's not gonna happen.

[E]

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