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Mark
Purch hey, the Bird Show. Hey Monica, how are you doing?
Monica
I'm alright, A little miffed. Yeah, you know, I just wondering how we can fix this whole situation I got going on.
Mark
So Monica, when did this happen and what happened on the date?
Monica
Well, it happened. We went out probably a few weeks ago. Even my friend had set us up. It had been kind of like this wrong thing trying to get the two of us together for a while and we finally like, you know, threw the details in and got together, got on the phone and he actually came and picked me up in my place, which is really, really, really nice because I feel like, you know, nowadays at least things are so informal. So he came and picked me up I live in Roswell. So he came, picked me up in Roswell, and we went out to dinner at this little Italian place called Ippolita's. And it was nice, you know, everything was cool. Like, we got along great. We had, like, great conversations like that. Dinner was awesome. And then we went and met up our friends, actually, at the slow comedy club. And that was even more fun because it was almost like we were on this little double date, you know, and they. They were, like, hanging out. And Kyle was even the whole time, he was, like, winking at me and stuff because, you know, Mark was being so cute. He had his arm around me and, like, you know, he'd been holding my hand at one point, so it just kind of seemed like this instantaneous, like, click. Like, we just clicked and got along really great.
Jen
What did your friends think of him?
Monica
Oh, Kyle thought he was awesome. He was like, you know, obviously he thought that we had a lot of chemistry going on, because it seemed that way. Like I said, he had his arm around. It was cute. It was so cute. And we had a lot of fun. And so afterwards we had a few drinks there and stuff, but afterwards we all went back to my place because it's a pretty close bar and stuff. So we hung out there and watched. Watched a movie and, like, had a few drinks and stuff like that. And it was really cute. Like I said, it was like double date. It seemed very natural. It was awesome. And then, you know, challenge anyone home eventually. So I didn't think it was appropriate that he would drive home. He lives about midtown. So it kind of seemed like, you know, it wouldn't be right if he drank and stuff. So he cashed at my place, which was totally fine. He was a perfect gentleman about it. He actually slept on the couch.
Jen
Okay.
Monica
Yeah. You know, it wasn't even like that. It was perfect. He was a gentleman and slept on the couch, and I gave him some blankets and stuff. And, you know, we kissed and stuff. It was really nice.
Jen
Defying and stuff.
Mark
We kissed.
Monica
We kissed a lot. It was nice, right?
Jen
Did that involve a milkshake? Yeah.
Monica
I guess everything was nice. It was perfect.
Jen
But I think the point.
Jeff
He wants to know if all the kisses were on the lips, if all.
Monica
Excuse me.
Mark
I think what Jeff is trying to establish here is if it was really just very kind of innocent.
Jen
Did you touch the parts that got Michael Jackson in trouble?
But did you touch the parts that got Michael Jackson in trouble? You know what I mean?
Monica
No.
Jen
Okay.
Mark
All right. So it's very innocent stuff. Just Kissing on the mouth. And then you go to sleep, he crashes on the couch.
Monica
Yeah.
Mark
Okay. In the morning, when the both of you wake up, is it that awkwardness or did you guys go to breakfast and take off or.
Monica
No, actually, I made breakfast for the two of us.
Mark
Cool.
Monica
And we hung out at my place, and you kind of watched some TV on the couch and had breakfast together, and it was really nice. We kissed again in the morning.
But I kind of thought that would have been. It seemed a little off, but I think it was because we both woken up and kind of had morning breath and stuff. So I don't know if I was holding back or if he was kind of holding back, but it was definitely a little different in the morning.
Mark
Okay. Was his attitude any different?
Monica
Oh, no, not at all. Like, it was cute. We were on the couch, like, watching TV and having breakfast, and it was. It was awesome. I mean, when we. We parted, you know, he. He was completely receptive to hanging out again and talking more and, you know.
Jeff
All right, you say, first of all, how late did he stay? When you say he's completely receptive, was it something you brought up or was it something he brought up?
Monica
Something he brought up. He said, you know, like, oh, we'll talk soon. I'll talk to you soon. We'll get together. I mean, he didn't stay that late. It was probably like 11:30 or 12. Something around noonish.
Jeff
Okay.
Mark
All right. And when he finally takes off, how does the whole thing end? Is there a kiss? Is there a hug? Is there a. I'll call you.
Monica
There was a kiss and I'll call you.
Mark
Okay. It all sounds.
Jeff
I can't figure out why he wouldn't want to go. In a second.
Jen
I think it's.
Mark
You know what I say, Jenner guys are kind of like an iceberg. What you get to see is about 10% from the water up, and underneath, there's a lot more stuff going on.
Well, it all sounds pretty. Pretty. I mean, legit.
Jeff
You're so profound, bro. I love that about you.
Jen
Can nobody else see it?
Mark
What?
Jen
You want to make your predictions first, then I'll tell you what's really happening.
Mark
I think he's got another girlfriend.
Jen
Anybody else?
Monica
Oh, really?
Jen
I think he's married and gay.
Jeff
What?
Mark
Yeah, Married.
Monica
Where did you go set me up with him? Like, why would.
Jeff
I was thinking that you might have been a really bad cook. And after breakfast, he was like, oh, can't date her. She can't cook.
Jen
Guys don't care about that if they're sleeping in the house the first night.
Monica
I don't think that it would have been. I can't even fathom what it would be.
Mark
But one of your friends set you up though, so we know he's not married, right?
Monica
Well, that's the thing is because like he's a friend that somebody. He's somebody my friend hooked me up with.
Mark
Yeah. So that.
Monica
So I don't think he could be married or have a girlfriend because Kyle would kill me already. Like I've known Kyle for years.
Jeff
Those are things just throws that out. I think my argument was the fact that. That things didn't happen between the two of you that evening. And I think he's just taken off.
Mark
Well, I could tell you that if on a first date, if a guy gets on the couch and spends the night there, then he's thinking, I could probably do this, you know, and the next time or the time after. So he would give it another shot. Yeah. So. Yeah.
Jeff
Okay.
Mark
Yeah.
Jeff
So that.
Mark
Well, we could speculate all we want or we can call this guy, try to get him on and find out exactly what happened.
Monica
Well, that's. That's what I'm trying to figure out here.
Mark
All right, Monica, what you have to do for us though, if we get this guy on the phone here and Jeff and producer Tracy will try to strong arm to come on, you have to assure him that you'd rather this thing be over than have it open ended the way it is right now. Like, you want closure and you want total honesty, right?
Bert
Yes.
Mark
Because most guys, it's gonna be. They don't want to say why they haven't called, but you have to assure them that it'll be all right.
Monica
Okay, well, I want to know. So I'd rather have the closure so it won't be a problem.
Mark
And we're calling him now.
Now he knows he's coming on.
Jen
I kind of.
Mark
What do you mean kind of?
Jeff
Jeff was just trying to beat you to the dialing so that you wouldn't screw it up.
Bert
Screw it up?
Mark
Yeah.
Jen
Please, no dialing.
Mark
Do I need to tell this guy he's on the radio? Does he know he's coming on the radio or.
Jen
It'll work itself out.
Mark (caller)
Hello?
Mark
Hi, this is Mark. Yeah, hi, Mark. This is Bert and Jeff and Jen and Melissa. And we're on the radio right now on a radio station called all the hits Q100.
Mark (caller)
Okay.
Mark
Hi, Mark, how are you?
Mark (caller)
I'm well. What's this about?
Mark
We have Monica on with us also.
Mark (caller)
Okay.
Mark
Hi, Monica. You want to say hi to Mark.
Monica
Hey, Mark.
Mark (caller)
Hi, Monica. What's going on?
Monica
Stuff. I haven't actually talked to you in a while.
Mark (caller)
Yeah, Mark.
Mark
Here's the reason why we're calling Mark is Monica said that she had a really, really great time with you guys on your date a couple of weeks ago.
Mark (caller)
Right, Right.
Mark
And she really thought that there was going to be a second date. I mean, you crashed over at her place. You know, everything was pretty innocent. You woke up the next day, she made breakfast for you. When you took off, you said, you know what? I can't wait to do this again, or whatever. And there hasn't been an again. So she's wondering what happened. And, Monica, maybe this is the good. This is the part here where you tell him that you're looking for total honesty.
Monica
Oh, yeah. Closure is really why I'm on the phone with this whole deal. Because I'd rather just know what it was and move on than, like, wonder why we had such an awesome date and everything seemingly went great and I just didn't hear from you.
Mark (caller)
Yeah, well.
Jen
Neat, huh?
Mark (caller)
To be honest.
Yeah, it was a great first date. Monica, you know, you're a really great girl. To be honest, I don't know why you chose to do this over the radio. I just woke up. I don't feel real comfortable talking about this over the air.
Mark
Well, she said that she's been trying to kind of call you and figure out why there hasn't been a second date. But conveniently, like, she'll tell you she's gonna be in a meeting till 9:30 and you're leaving voicemail messages for at 9:15 or you leave her a message at home when, you know she's at work. So she kind of felt like there was no other way to do it.
Jen
Is that. Is that just. I mean, are you doing that intentionally or is that just a little.
Mark (caller)
No, no, it's just like, you know, I just. I call her back when I can, you know.
Mark
But you haven't called, really, I mean, and spoken to her in two weeks. And if the date went as great as Monica said that. I know when I was single, if it went great, I'd have figured out a way to talk to the girl that I was really interested in.
Jeff
And, Mark, again, we're asking for total honesty. I know that we've kind of caught you off guard. You might be a little uncomfortable. But like Monica said, she just wants closure. So you feel, you know, no pressure on you. There's no reason to feel uncomfortable giving us total honesty.
Mark
Right, Monica?
Monica
Yeah, I just want to know what the deal is and move on. I mean, I just would rather know than.
Mark (caller)
All right.
Mark
I mean, total honesty is what she's looking for.
Jen
Is it accurate to assume that there was one particular thing that caused.
Mark
Yeah, okay.
Mark (caller)
All right. I mean, if you want honesty, I'll give it to you. I mean, Monica, all due respect, you are a great girl. It was a good first date. There was one thing.
You know, the next morning, you know, we woke up, we were hanging out, watching tv, whatnot. And you know, when. When I was kind of getting ready to leave, we were cleaning up, you know, folding up the sheets from the couch and whatnot. And. And.
I can't believe. All right, total honesty. Total honesty.
Jeff
Okay.
Mark (caller)
She. She picked up her copy of Glamour that was on the coffee table and she.
She walked into the bathroom and didn't emerge for about 15 minutes.
Jen
I'd say, okay, she took a magazine into the pooper.
Mark (caller)
Yeah, no, call me old fashioned, but I'm right there. That's just nasty.
Mark
Are you serious? You haven't called this girl back because she reads when she's in the bathroom?
Jen
Yeah, I say good for you.
Mark (caller)
If. Yeah, thank you.
Jeff
Pooping from your first date.
Mark (caller)
Listen, yeah, supposed to do okay.
Jeff
Supposed to hang tight. He was just about to leave.
Jen
Maybe that's a problem.
Mark (caller)
Maybe she was hanging great and, like, the chemistry seemed to be there. And I'm. But I'm sorry, that just. Monica, that just killed it. Because girls, you know, should be discreet about that. You know, that guys, that's one thing. But girls reading for 15 minutes on the crapper?
Mark
Come on.
Mark (caller)
I'm sorry. That's totally.
Mark
It wasn't 15 minutes.
Mark (caller)
I swear to God, it was 15 minutes.
Jen
I tell you what, a woman in the restroom needs to be like, Chili's. Get in, get out, get on with your life.
Mark (caller)
That's what I feel. I'm sorry. Call me old fashioned, call me shallow, but that's just nasty. It turned me off and I didn't know how to say it to her. I'm sorry, Monica. What can I say?
Jeff
See, I mean, I'm more on Jen's camp than the guys because, I mean, you can't be double standard even when it comes to those things. But I do agree with Jen. I mean, you hold those things off until, you know, somebody said it were. I mean, if it were, if I were going on a date with Mark and he went into my bathroom and did that, I'd be like, ew, no, you're out of here. We're done. I mean, I think it's either way, in front of somebody you're first starting to date.
Mark
I'm wondering.
Jeff
I don't think it has to be a guy girl thing.
Mark
I'm wondering.
Jen
Hey, but if you gotta go, you gotta go.
Mark
Mark. Was it more that she. She did that or she took the magazine and she took the magazine in?
Mark (caller)
I mean, it's a little both, but it's definitely the magazine. Put it over the top. Because, like, that's just.
Jen
Well, if she's. Like, if she didn't take the magazine, she could have been plucking or peeling or whatever.
Mark (caller)
Yeah, exactly. She could have just been primping and printing.
Jeff
But, yeah, or pretend like you're taking a shower, turn on the shower, whatever. Like, just don't make it obviously that you're going number two.
Mark (caller)
I mean, yeah, it was real. And it was, like, right before I left. I mean, I'm sitting there basically with my coat on, and she's in the grabber. I'm sorry, Monica. You want honesty.
Mark
I'm sorry, Monica. You've been awfully quiet.
Jeff
Are you still there?
Monica
Yeah, still here.
Jen
I think we've learned not to get the sausage at Ippolitos, haven't we?
Jeff
Stop.
Mark (caller)
No.
Mark
Come on now.
Monica
Yeah. Thanks for helping out, guys.
Mark (caller)
Sorry.
Mark
I'm sorry, Monica.
Monica
No, it's okay. I asked for honesty and I got it.
Jen
Coffee does that.
Jeff
I mean, it works for Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey. Cause they're married. She can drop the kids off at the pool and nobody will really say anything about it.
Mark
Yeah.
Monica
Yeah, I. I definitely. I don't know what to say.
Jen
I think the last. Yeah, we can all take from this is if, I mean, Monica's gonna meet another guy and there's gonna be another date.
Mark
And come on, now, she's already embarrassed.
Jen
I'm not gonna embarrass you.
Mark
I'm not. Mark will let you go. Monica will let you go. I'm sorry.
Monica
All right, guys. Thank you for helping out.
Jen
All right. I just think it's. If you date a girl named Monica in Roswell, I would stay away from Indian food.
Mark
Yeah, stop now. But I don't even like the fact that my wife does that. I don't like the fact that God made that a part of a woman's life.
It's not the magazine part.
Jeff
That's just guys having to deal with the fact that it happens. But on a first date, you don't make a dramatic scene where you grab a magazine off the coffee table and walk to the bathroom? You're not one of the guys? No. And, you know, I don't even think guys should do that on the first date. I don't want to think about you pooping.
Mark
Ew.
Jeff
I don't want to think about anybody pooping.
Mark
Morning. All the hits. Q100.
Bert
Poop.
Monica
Good morning.
Mark
Hi.
Monica
Well, everyone does it.
Mark
Oh, come on.
Jen
Not with a book.
Mark
On a first date.
Monica
If you're out drinking the night before, sometimes you get the craps in the morning.
Jeff
Hold on, hold on.
Jen
Now.
Jeff
Wait a second. If your first date is sitting on the couch with his coat on, you can wait five minutes to say goodbye and then unleash the demons anytime you want to.
Mark
That's what I called for. You do a deuce.
Jen
But I mean, if there's. In her defense, if she's. If she's. If it was all like, you know, like. Like, if she had to go and the debate was, either go now and get it out of your system or risk getting a hug and then sharding. Oh, come on.
Jeff
Say, Jeff, you're just. You know what? Just jump off the plane. You know, jump off the plane.
Mark
If Stacy and I are on vacation and we're, like, staying in a bungalow or something, and these are really small. You said bung bungalow.
I will make her go outside onto the patio and read a book while I'm in there. It's that.
Jen
I thought you were sending her out there to do the deuce.
Mark
Yeah, go dig yourself a hole like a cat. I get the bathroom, you get the beach.
Jen
And make sure you kick sand over it so you don't step in it again.
Mark
And be sure to lick yourself good before you come in the house.
Jen
You gotta admit, people poop is funny.
Jeff
If he's on his way out the door, I'd be rushing, like, okay, but, you know, okay, hard to get. Get out the door, lock it, and then do your business.
Jen
Right?
Jeff
I'm not gonna make somebody sit there and know what I'm doing.
Jen
Because, you know, then when you're halfway through it, you're gonna get a. I forgot my gloves.
Mark
And you're in there, and you know, he knows it into a glamour. And that's another thing.
Jen
Don't take.
Mark
Women shouldn't be reading in the bathroom.
Jeff
Shut up, shut up, shut up.
Mark
That is a dad thing to do. No, no. Women should not be reading in the bathroom.
Jen
That's just.
Jeff
That's just being stupid.
Jen
Boy, might as well smoke a cigar and eat beans right out of the can while you're in there.
Bert
Ew.
Jeff
Is that what you do?
Bert
Yeah.
Jen
Doesn't everybody?
Mark
Hi, Lynn. You're on all the hits. Q100.
Monica
Yes. I sit on the toilet and take a dunk and my boyfriend sits right in front of me and plays his guitar. And it's nothing.
Mark
That is about the grossest thing I've ever heard in my friggin life.
Jen
It's a great visual. Does he incorporate the sounds of the dump taking into the song he's playing on the guitar?
Jeff
No.
Monica
We gotta stop. I don't know which is.
Jeff
I don't know which is worse. The fact that she goes to the bathroom in front of her boyfriend or he's playing the guitar in the bathroom.
Mark
Right. This next song I'd like to entitle. Do a Deuce.
Jeff
And he doesn't get disturbed by the smell of it. No.
Monica
I'm gonna tell you guys something.
Mark
Yeah? Ryan has to. Ryan, Jen's husband has to go to Gainesville to write songs. And your boyfriend is writing right there while you're doing a deuce.
Jeff
I'm so creeped out right now. Yeah, so does anybody have a magazine? I gotta go.
Mark
Get out of here. You're not one of them. Aren't I? I bet. Reading like comic books or stuff like that.
Jen
Star Trek 2004.
Mark
Hey, the bird show.
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Monica
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Mark
I'm not.
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Mark
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Mark
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This episode of The Bert Show centers around the classic “Second Date Update” segment. Listener Monica seeks closure after a promising first date fizzled into radio silence. The show’s hosts help Monica connect with her date, Mark, live on air to find out the real reason behind his lack of follow-up—leading to revelations, awkward honesty, and plenty of laughs as the team unpacks the sometimes-unspoken etiquette of early dating.
Monica’s open vulnerability:
Mark’s uncomfortable honesty:
Jen’s comic summation:
The hosts acknowledging social double standards:
The humor keeps rolling: