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The BIR Show.
Wendy
So, I mean, I am, I'm obviously single. I've talked about my single life and dating.
Jen Hobby
You're obviously single.
Steve
It's just your comments, right?
Wendy
I think everyone probably knows at this point I'm single and I'm going out and I'm dating a lot. And when I meet guys for the first time, there's a little detail that I leave out because, you know, you discuss things you like, discuss where you're from, your family, how many brothers and sisters do you have? What part of town do you live in?
Steve
Do you lie about what I do for a living?
Charles
Right?
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Steve
I'm marketing.
Wendy
Do you live in an apartment? Do you live in a house? But when the pet question comes up, they asked me, do I have any pets? And I am so hesitant to tell guys that I have cats.
Jen Hobby
Why?
Jeff
Because you think you're gonna be upset?
Jen Hobby
That creepy cat lady.
Wendy
I almost try to avoid the question and turn it on them before I could really answer the question. No, because I think there's a stereotype that comes with cats. And then almost the first time thing guys will ever say is, I don't want to date a girl with cats
Jen Hobby
because how many cats do you have?
Jeff
Guys have said that to you before or they've just been like, around you,
Wendy
around me in conversation. Because there's a stereotype with you being the cat lady, which I don't really understand what that means.
Jeff
What's wrong with cats? Well, there is a stigma.
Steve
Being.
Charles
Stigma.
Jeff
There is a stigma. There's a crazy cat lady. Like if you are single, and I think if you have more than two, you can be qualified for that category. And I don't know why that is, but I. I make that assumption too. But if you feel bad, but if
Steve
you have three dogs, nobody thinks anything about it.
Jeff
Exactly. Yeah.
Wendy
Because there's always been that cat stereotype, I think, ever since you were little.
Steve
But my thing is why? Like, I understand the stereotype, but where's.
Jen Hobby
Because doesn't every neighborhood have the woman who feeds all the stray cats and she's usually alone.
Jeff
The crazy cat lady.
Jen Hobby
Yeah. Her house is kind of smelly and she's got newspapers from 1970 piled up on the.
Steve
So that's why they think her house is going to stink.
Jeff
Yeah.
Wendy
Well, I could see like feeding a stray cat at their body like a dumpster or something, but I'm not going to, like, bring them in.
Jeff
How many cats do you have?
Wendy
I have two, and I'm never going to get more than two because of that reason, nor do I want to even deal with anymore. So I only have two. But I will refuse to tell guys that I have cats because I don't want them to judge me right off the bat that I'm this single lowly person who's filthy with nothing going on.
Steve
So when. Because eventually they have to come to your place. So do you go as far as to hide the cats or at that point is when you reveal that. You know what I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you something before we go in. Like, you're standing at the door, you unlock and say, wait a second. Before we go inside, I got something I need to tell you.
Wendy
I try to put off coming to my place as much as possible. So I'm like, I'll just come over there. It'll be okay.
Jen Hobby
You're not one of those people. You don't have like the.
Jeff
That is a different step.
Jen Hobby
You don't have the litter box, like in the bathtub of the guest room, do you? Or something?
Jeff
No.
Wendy
And by no means does my place smell. It's not nasty. Actually.
Jeff
People with cats say. Oh, people with cats say that.
Wendy
And you can tell.
Jeff
It's something that you say if you have cats.
Steve
And it's so funny that people who have dogs actually think their dogs don't smell bad.
Jeff
No, they don't smell like cat litter,
Jen Hobby
though cat litter does have a special
Jeff
smell that has a special.
Jen Hobby
But it's fine.
Steve
I guess like that. I guess guys like that better than the old wet dog smell on a couch.
Jen Hobby
Is it okay? Is it acceptable in the dating world to leave out details like that?
Steve
Yeah, in the beginning, absolutely.
Jen Hobby
For how long? How long is defined beginning, then?
Jeff
I mean, I think it's fine until you decide he's okay to come over to your house, because that's a whole new step. I know when they're allowed in.
Wendy
There hasn't been anybody allowed in yet.
Jen Hobby
Hey, Shane. Welcome to the bird show.
Steve
Shane.
Charles
Yeah.
Shane
Hey, I got two cats myself, and I would never think it's weird for a girl to have cats or anything like that or any of the stereotypes you guys just talked about. It might be the guys who, like, might be a little weird. I don't know. But, I mean, it's like there's just the most convenient pets you can have, you know?
Steve
Have you ever had a girl judge you for having cats as a guy?
Charles
No.
Steve
No.
Bretzky
All right.
Shane
See, I don't date a lot of girls either, and I just broke up with my girlfriend recently, so I don't know.
Jen Hobby
Okay.
Steve
They would say I'm a. Yeah, I'm. I'm a cat lover, so.
Wendy
Well, see, I think he has cats, so he doesn't have that judgment. So he already has the pets.
Steve
But, guys, you have to find a cat guy.
Jen Hobby
We just hung up on Shane, and
Steve
you could have made.
Jen Hobby
You could have made a brady bunch out of cats. Your cat family could have met his cat family.
Bretzky
Then y' all could have lived together.
Wendy
So are you judging cats?
Steve
Yeah, I think it's funny she gave a look. So you would judge a guy if he had cats?
Wendy
Well, because he just added to the stigma. You're single, and you're like, it's me and my cats. That's all I've got going on in my life. Me and my cats just hanging out all day long. That's all I do.
Jeff
See, I think you get cool points if you have a dog, too. And you have a dog, right?
Wendy
I do have a dog, yes. So I have a dog and two cats.
Jeff
See, I think that's cool points, I guess.
Jen Hobby
So now you've just become.
Steve
I come from a dog person.
Jen Hobby
You become an animal.
Jeff
I'm a dog person. I'm not a cat person. I like my friends cats. I'm totally fine with that, but I don't want one myself.
Jen Hobby
Well, don't you have a cat? Your friend has a cat who can drive a car and use the toilet and read.
Jeff
Yeah, Kirby uses the potty.
Jen Hobby
Hey, Charles.
Charles
Yes, sir.
Jen Hobby
What's up, Charles? You're in charge.
Jeff
Oh.
Charles
All right. I got a little advice for Wendy. I grabbed a cat. I absolutely love cats. My wife loves cats. And I think. I think you're kind of missing the big picture. If you're wanting to get involved with a guy, you have got to be honest with him straight up and just tell him, look, I love cats. If you don't accept me for that, then you don't want to date me or you don't want to get involved with me.
Steve
Be proud of your cats is what he's saying.
Jen Hobby
Hey, cat pride, Steve.
Steve
That's right.
Wendy
My campaign.
Jen Hobby
Hey, Stephen, welcome to the show.
Charles
Two things real quick. First of all, I do cable TV and a lot of houses. You get to. You can smell the cat before you get to the door. You know, clean the box out. That's fine. But I think that 70 show read. The father said it best. When kitty. His wife wanted a cat. He said, best case scenario, we get the smartest cat that's ever existed on the planet, and it craps in a box in my house.
Jeff
You're not a cat person, are you?
Steve
Yeah, it doesn't sound like that.
Charles
There we go.
Jeff
He and I are Dog pride. Dog love dog pride.
Steve
Cause dogs never go in the house.
Jen Hobby
Who are you? Are you team dog, or are you team cat? Like, at least. Yeah, that's a good point, Melissa. At least the cat goes in a box.
Jeff
It's cat, dog.
Jen Hobby
Dog just goes on your floor.
Jeff
Yeah, only once in a while. And those are accidents.
Charles
All right.
Jeff
But cats poop in the house every
Jen Hobby
day in a box. On purpose. On purpose. I would take intentional box pooping rather
Jeff
than whatever room that litter is in. It's. And I'm just telling you, if you put it in your bathroom and your guests have to go use that bathroom, they're grossed out. Hey, Travis, just giving you a heads up.
Jen Hobby
What's going on?
Charles
Well, I was just thinking from a guy's point of view, I have dogs and cats. That Wendy's obsession over whether or not somebody cares about the cats is far crazier than whether or not she has cats. The last thing I'm gonna think of if you mentioned to me you have cats is that you're a crazy cat lady, if anything. But you think you're a crazy cat
Jeff
lady because you're team cat.
Steve
We've talked to three guys who've had cats, so there's plenty of cat. There's plenty of guys that have cats that you could date and not Be a problem.
Jeff
You have to be team cat.
Steve
Guys. Jeff has a cat too.
Jen Hobby
Meow. I would like to. I would like to make an observation. I would like to make a Jen hobby observation.
Jeff
What?
Jen Hobby
Because Bert can't stand cats?
Steve
Yeah, he eats them.
Jen Hobby
He's talked about that on the air. I don't hate cats for years. And Jen, it's like, has never made a comment in alignment with cats being stinky or disliking cats until she got Carolina her dog. Now all of a sudden, she's like in the allegiance of like, yeah, I got a dog.
Jeff
I'm only giving you a heads up that whatever room your litter box is in, it stinks. So just put it in a room that's not going to be near your living area or anywhere people come over to visit. You go and you're good to go.
Jen Hobby
We keep Gugu's litter box under the dining room table. Hot that way. We don't like people stretching their feet out too far. Cause then they kick us. So that stops them pretty quick. We actually don't even have a litter box. We just pour a pile of litter on the floor underneath the dining room table at least.
Steve
But Ngugu still goes on that pile of sand on the floor where the dog goes wherever the hell it wants to go.
Jeff
I'm just saying, courtesy from an outside dog person who's not your friend who won't want to offend you that you're wherever your litter box is, it smells like a cat lives there.
Steve
I think we got the point. Okay, angry, angry dog.
Jeff
You got the point.
Steve
I hate cats. Generally.
Jeff
That is incorrect. I don't hate cats at all. I like cats and I like my friend's cats. But I'm just telling you, just giving you the heads up. These cat people like to say, but
Jen Hobby
my house doesn't smell like, hey, what's going on?
Charles
Not much. I was just going to tell Wendy that I think she should hold off on telling people about the cats because, like, half the guys I know hate cats.
Shane
I mean, no offense, I'm not big
Charles
on cats, but it'd be better to hold off.
Jeff
I agree.
Wendy
See?
Jeff
Yeah, I think you're doing the right thing.
Jen Hobby
So is what you're saying, Jen, essentially go dogs, Is that what you're saying?
Jeff
I'm saying team dog. No, it's fine. I think cats are fine. I'm just giving you the heads up. You can't ever. It's just like a bride saying to a bridesmaid, you're going to wear this dress again. No, you're not. And it's the same thing as cat people saying my house doesn't ever smell like a cat. Yes, it does. That's all I would say.
Jen Hobby
I would like to.
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Jeff
And not all cat.
Wendy
Well, we all know Jen Hobby's friends, houses smell like cats and not all
Steve
cat people think their house doesn't smell like cats. But I do want to say too, Wendy, don't go to the point of getting rid of your cats to please a guy. Like to me, I would have it come up in conversation because I'm like, you know what? My animals are going to come before the the person that's coming in the house.
Wendy
Oh yeah. My animals are not going anywhere.
Jeff
True.
Wendy
They're staying.
Jen Hobby
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Air Date: June 19, 2026
Hosts & Contributors: Wendy, Jen Hobby, Steve, Jeff, Charles, Bretzky, and callers (Shane, Travis)
In this lively and candid episode, the Bert Show gang dives into the unexpected pitfalls of dating with pets—specifically, owning cats. Wendy kicks off a revealing discussion about why she hides the fact she owns cats from potential dates due to the lingering "crazy cat lady" stereotype. The crew and a few engaged callers dissect whether pet preferences should be disclosed early, if the cat stigma is real, and how pet ownership affects romantic prospects. The segment is humorous, filled with honest confessions and gentle ribbing—classic Bert Show style.
The episode offers a playful, unfiltered look at how pet ownership can feel like a dating liability, especially for cat owners. Ultimately, the team (with help from callers) lands on the message: be authentic about who you are and don’t hide things like beloved pets to attract a partner—because the right person won’t mind, and sometimes, they’ll have cats too!