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Hi, this is Alex Canceroitz. I'm the host of Big Technology Podcast, a longtime reporter and an on air contributor to cnbc. And if you're like me, you're trying to figure out how artificial intelligence is changing the business world and our lives. So each week on Big Technology, I bring on key actors from companies building AI tech and outsiders trying to influence it, asking where this is all going. They come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon and plenty more. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices, in meetings with your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to Big Technology Podcast wherever you get your podcasts. The Birch Show.
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So we're going to have Amber on here in a couple of seconds.
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We were living in Phoenix about a year ago. I got divorced. Obviously go over to my best friend's house where be comforted. She gave me her login information to get into Facebook. I would still check up on my husband's Facebook page. I'm scheduled to fly out tonight to go to sleep Phoenix to see her and still using her Facebook page. And as I'm checking his stuff out, an ichat pops up from him and I could see some of the history of their messages. And one of them was confirming a date for tonight. What she doesn't know is I changed my flight and I want to bust them on their date.
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All right, let's get Amber back on here.
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Hey.
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Hey. How are you?
E
I'm okay.
D
So the advice was come on back, do your thing, then get a flight out, don't deal with it, just come on back to Atlanta. But you didn't take that advice?
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No. I got on the earlier flight and I landed and I got my car and did everything I was to do. I went to the restaurant where they were going to meet. I was there at 6 o'. Clock. I waited for them to come in and nothing and nothing and nothing. And I never saw them. I even went into the restaurant and I looked around. They weren't there basically. And around the time I was supposed to land a Number calls me and I don't recognize it. And it says 602 area code. It's Phoenix area code. And so I think it could be one of my friends that's there already or whatever. I pick it up and it's her. It's my best friend. I was freaked out. I didn't know what to do because I was so caught off guard. I told her I was just landing and getting my car and she said, well, she was excited to see me. And so I basically drove to her half as planned. I wanted to confront her on it, but I had nothing to support my paranoia or.
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So did you just hang out with her last night? Not say anything?
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Yeah, no. Well, you know, we had some wine and had some dinner and. And I asked her and I said, so, are you seeing anybody? And she said, yeah, she's been seeing somebody for a little bit now and she really liked him. And. And I suggested, hey, why don't we all go out tonight, the three of us? And she said that was impossible, that she was going to be working late tonight, obviously doesn't want me to meet whoever she is supposedly dating right now. So I'm here. I'm outside her apartment right now. I'm hoping what will happen is she will go to work today and I can maybe find some more information and back up my.
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You're search her place.
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You are, aren't you? So she's going to go to work and you're going to search her place, you're going to go back onto Facebook, you're going to try to find some pictures with.
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You've already got the Facebook stuff. I don't see why you didn't just bust that out.
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Well, because then how do I explain myself? Like how I found.
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Who cares? She's dating your ex husband?
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Yeah, I think so.
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You snooped around. She gave you the Facebook password a long time ago. It's not your fault she forgot you had it.
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Yeah, your relationship with her and. And he. It's over. It's done. Like Jen said. Why are you even waiting?
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Why are you even doing the charade
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of the whole thing?
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Yeah, Jen thinks you got evidence enough, but do you? You need to see pictures. I mean, what exactly are you looking for?
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Yeah, because she's such a picture person. And so I'm gonna look on her computer, find what she's got on there.
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Here's what's gonna happen here. Even if you don't find pictures, I'm gonna tell you right now that before the weekend is over, you're gonna say something to her. I mean, it sounds to me like you're compiling evidence, but.
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Yeah.
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You can't leave Phoenix. Never have addressed this issue. No, you cannot, because it's like Bert said. Your friendship with her is over. You're gonna have to get the clothes you want and then come on back to Atlanta.
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So she's basically sleeping with the enemy this weekend. She's.
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She's at the house, and so is her best friend.
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I would love to bust her, meet up with him for my own two eyes.
F
Right now, you seem together, and you're going to, you know, go through her apartment. I don't know how together that is, but then I just feel like the longer you stay out there and the more you try to do in order to get evidence, the weaker you're going to become, and the more you're going to end up looking like, you know, the fool. She knew that you were coming to visit, so it was a planned visit. There's not gonna be anything for you
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to find, so you may not find anything at all. Now, if that's the case, I don't
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even think that they'll see each other even when she goes to work today. Or, I mean, they may call or text each other, but I'm guessing they don't have plans to see one another while you're in town.
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I don't know. She can be a little hobag. I wouldn't be surprised if she's trying to get in a little sneaky.
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Now.
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It's already deteriorated.
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There you are.
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There's the crowd.
D
It's already.
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Now you're losing.
D
We got to check back with you on Monday morning because I am 100% confident that you're going to say something to her. But I think that these guys are right, that if you're looking for more evidence, you're probably not going to find it. So you have what you need. So cut it all off. Do it.
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I'm like Nancy Drew right now.
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All right.
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The Birch show.
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Hi, this is Alex Kanchrowitz. I'm the host of Big Technology Podcast, a longtime reporter and an on air contributor to cnbc. And if you're like me, you're trying to figure out how artificial intelligence is is changing the business world and our lives. So each week on Big Technology, I bring on key actors from companies building AI tech and outsiders trying to influence it, asking where this is all going. They come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and plenty more. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices, in meetings with your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to Big Technology Podcast. Wherever you get your podcasts.
Date: March 31, 2026
In this dramatic follow-up, The Bert Show continues the saga of Amber, a listener who suspects her best friend of secretly dating her ex-husband. The hosts (Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, and others) engage in a candid, sometimes humorous panel discussion as Amber recounts her emotional journey confronting betrayal. This episode focuses on real-life relationship turmoil, difficult choices, friendship boundaries, and when it’s time to call things quits.
The conversation is fast-paced, vulnerable, and raw, with moments of comic relief as the hosts riff on Amber’s predicament. The Bert Show crew collectively encourages Amber to trust her instincts, recognize the finality of her friendship, and prioritize her own well-being over further sleuthing.
At its core, this episode is about the limits of trust and the hard, sometimes messy work of standing up for oneself in relationships. And for Amber—well, the consensus is clear: it’s time to end the friendship, no more evidence required.