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Well, absolutely. I mean I always look at porn. No, no, no. Jen Hobby actually said she got a friend involved in online dating and it kind of like sp my interest. I mean I've been single for gosh, what, two years now, which is the longest time I've ever been single. I'm normally a relationship to relationship person and both of my long term relationships have been long. They've been two years apiece. So all I know are my long term relationships. And I'm kind of in like a dating rut. I mean, you meet people here and there, but nothing's really going anywhere. And I've always thought online dating was a little bizarre. So I've never done it. I just think it's weird meeting people on the Internet. I don't know why. It's oddly bizarre.
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So I think would that be. That'd be the attitude of everybody. I think the first time they do it, like I don't think anybody really embraces it and says, I want to find love online. Doesn't everybody have the dream that they're going to be pushing their cart through the, you know, publix and that their dream man or dream woman's going to be coming the other way. And you realize that you both love the mint Oreo double stuffed cookies. And you realize you're the only people in the world who like the mint double stuffed Oreo cookies.
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I mean that could definitely be the dream. But Wendy works too much and that's why we were talking about it and I suggested it. I mean, she's here all morning, she goes home, regroups and comes back and is here all afternoon. So there's not a ton of time for her to be dating.
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Right.
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And that's what she's been complaining about. I think the most is just your limited availability. And I have a lot of friends that are that same way. They work a lot, right? So they get up in the morning, they work out, they do their thing, they get to work, they don't get home till 7 or 8 o' clock at night. And then at that point, like were you gonna go be a bar flight and then do it all over again the next day? No, you're busy. And so at home, when you have a couple hours before you gotta go to bed and do it all over again, then you can be on your laptop and maybe meet some people in that way so that you're not having to be always out and about, trying to be social in bars, wherever. And for a couple of my friends, it seems to be working a lot better. And it's really sort of opening the access to potential new people. But I will say the first couple of weeks are rough.
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B
Now Internet, you seem like it's like going to be really shady and all that's on there. These shady guys are just looking to get like action or something like that.
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Not like some of them people, some of them definitely are not what I'M looking for.
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See, and there's, you know what? There's the dream you're forever can come true online. Hey, George.
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Yes.
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What's going on?
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How you doing?
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Good, how are you?
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What's going on?
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Yes, what's going on?
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Not much. Not much.
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You met your wife on Yahoo.
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Yahoo. Yahoo. Eight years ago.
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There you go. See, Wendy, your dream can happen. You can find a guy just like George.
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Well, I think he found a girl
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right there on the Internet.
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But whatever, whatever you're looking for.
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The stigma that I think comes with people dating online is that it's an act of desperation or whatever. But if you can convince yourself that it's an act of convenience and you're okay with it being an act of convenience, then it's almost like, you know, going to the theater and picking out which movie you want to see.
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C
It really is. And I think, like, I think attitudes about it are changing so much, especially in other cities. I have a really good friend from growing up who lives in San Francisco and everyone there online dates. Really?
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Really?
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That's all you do is online date. Because everybody there is, well, I guess in her circles and whatever else, like, very, very career focused, especially inside the city of San Francisco, like, very busy, all that kind of stuff. And she said that's the only way that you date in San Francisco. You meet at coffee shops, you meet for one quick, one quick cocktail, whatever it is. But everybody online dates. They chat for maybe like two or three times online. They're like, great, let's have coffee, Whatever coffee works. And it goes from there. If it doesn't, it's move on back, back to online. And it's so commonplace there that you're like sort of apprehension about online dating would be unheard of there. People would look at you like you were weird. Oh, really?
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What website do they use out there websites do you know?
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I think she's done a whole bunch of them. I think my friend that I'm talking about specifically met her boyfriend on Match, but I think she was also on Plenty of Fish.
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Okay.
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Which is a free one. And maybe eharmony. I can't remember if she was on eharmony or not, but I know the boyfriend that she has now that she's been dating for like nine months. They met online and like everybody does it there.
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So which ones are better, the free ones or do you actually have to pay for. Pay for a website.
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Hey, Joe, welcome to the bird show.
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Yeah, I met my fiance on eharmony and her brother met his or her Fiance on eharmony.
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And it wasn't like it's live. It's not strangely bizarre.
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Do what now?
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It's not strangely bizarre to go on to eharmony and just start chatting with somebody.
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I mean, yeah, you need some. Some creepers, definitely, but, you know, you
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make creepers in the bar too, you know?
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Well, see, I don't have time to go out to the bars. Like, I literally am such a homebody during the week. I maybe go out one day a week, and then that's my only night out.
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What websites are you considering? Have you even thought about it yet?
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Well, I was considering the plenty of fish website, and then I was considering paying for one and doing like an eharmony or a match.com, but I don't even know if it's worth paying for or if that is desperation.
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Okay, well, here's the idea. We're going to put you on right now. Do you guys remember Mike Beaver? Not gonna laugh when I say his name. Do you guys remember Mike beaver? He's from copypastebang.com copypasteinbang.com It's a website that is geared toward guys. We interviewed him and he actually made a lot of sense. We were gonna kind of rip him apart and try to defend the honor of the woman. But he basically knows how to look for ads online and knows how to create ads online that will attract people who are looking for. To get pretty quickly into a relationship intimately. But he has.
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That's not what I want.
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Right. But he has made himself an expert in what works for different reasons and what doesn't work for different reasons on online dating ads. So what the thought was is we bring him on the show, we have him help Wendy pick a couple of websites, then he will create one ad and Wendy will create one ad.
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Is he gonna create like a booty bang and whatever website for me? Because that's not.
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He'll do like a legitimate. Well, he's online right now, so you can tell him exactly what you want. But the thought is he is a pro ad writer. So you tell him what you want, he will write an ad. And we'll just compare that to the, you know, attention that you get from your ad. Because I think, Wendy, I think you're gonna be a little more reserved, conservative, and humble about the whole thing. I think, dude, here, Mike is gonna put it out there and say this is, you know, put it out there and be more realistic about it and more honest.
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I definitely want to hear what he has to say.
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Hey, Mike.
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Hey, first of all, it's Beaver Phillips, not Mike Beaver.
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Oh, where did I get Mike Beaver from?
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I'm not sure, but I appreciate you having me back on the show, guys. How's everybody doing?
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No problem, sir. So Beaver's your first name?
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Well, not my real first name. That would be Steve. But Beaver's been my nickname since three and it kind of stuck.
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So now Jeff's giving you the nickname of Mike.
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I'm more comfortable then with Beaver being your first name rather than Mr. Beaver because that's odd and creepy. Hey, welcome back to the show and thanks for taking the time with us.
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Oh, no, I appreciate you having me back on. And while I was on hold, I was listening to some of the things that were being said and I really strongly agree. First of all, the Internet dating thing, I think there was a bad stigma attached to it years ago, but it's becoming more and more acceptable and it really is a huge time saver. One of the folks that was just talking mentioned that, you know, by the time you start your day, you go work out, you work and you come home, you're tired out and you're just not in the mood to go out to a bar or club. So I agree with a lot of those points that were brought up, but
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it's still a little scary because you never know if they're going to use a fake picture or if this is a legitimate person or some just creeper who's looking to like stalk you.
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Sure. No, and that makes sense too. And some of the websites that were mentioned while I was on hold, the first one was match.com, which is a pay site. And another one was Plenty of Fish. And the reason I think I like Match the most is because people are paying for it. So, you know, they've got an investment, they tend to take it a little more seriously. And of course, you know, you are going to have those people that will post the 10 year old pictures and whatnot. But most people today on their cell phones have a camera. So don't be shy, Wendy, about asking somebody to, you know, to stand in front of a mirror and text you a picture. I don't have a problem doing it. And I think unless they've got something to hide, they shouldn't have a problem with it either.
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You offered to write an ad for Wendy and her concern is that your ad is going to be just attracting dudes who are ready to hook up for one night and hang out with her.
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Well, based on the title of my book, she's Got a valid concern. But I do offer some services to my readers. And one of those services, writing profiles. And when they do move forward with that, the first thing I do is send them a questionnaire. And the very first question on there is, what are you seeking? And it sounds to me like Wendy isn't looking for booty calls. She's looking for a long term relationship. So I'll write a profile geared toward what she's seeking.
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Are there any buzz, are there any buzzwords that you'll definitely include in there or that you'll definitely. Not that you'll leave out?
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Well, certainly I'm gonna try and make it a little bit more conservative because again, she is looking for that. It sounds like the long term deal. Is that right, Wendy?
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That is correct.
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Okay. Yeah. So I'm not going to use, you know, graphic words or anything like that or anything sexually suggestive. I'll keep that stuff out.
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I appreciate that.
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And then I think what we're going to do is Wendy is also going to create an ad just to see which one is going to attract more attention. Because if I'm going to guess Beaver, your ad is going to be more bold and more direct than I think Wendy would have the confidence to put out there.
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I can tell you I've already created one, so I'm pretty confident. But it's not like there's not a lot in it.
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What does your sound like? What's your profile like? What's your description of you? How would you describe you, Wendy?
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I literally just put in keywords of stuff I like. It's just like happiness equals and then this is everything I like.
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That's kind of cool. I was gonna ask Beaver, is it like personality descriptions or interests that you should go with first?
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Well, it's a little of both. And one thing that I really try and stress throughout my book is how to separate yourself from your competition. Because obviously I've seen a lot of different females profiles and you know, if there's another one that says looking for my knight in shining armor, it just makes me want to puke because there's so many of those types of headlines and things like that. One thing that I use in my profile, I do a lot of the self deprecating type behaviors and comments. So, you know, an idea I had for Wendy and I think that guys might find it funny and I think it would maybe separate her profile from some of the other women's. Maybe a subject line like clingy drama queen seeks man of dreams or something, you know, Just get some humor in there. I don't know if you'd be comfortable with that, but it would certainly stand out from some of the other profiles that are out there.
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And it probably put the guy at ease because I would assume a guy seeing a headline that says looking for knight in shining armor, that would make a guy run, right?
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Absolutely. But the clingy drama queen, like you would want to click on that. And if the rest of the profile was.
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Was like tongue in cheek.
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Yeah. Was that funny? Like, hey, I'm looking for someone who wants to move in tomorrow. You know what I mean? And you knew it was a joke, right?
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I'll bring a U haul to the first date.
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Yeah, exactly. So again, I do a lot of that humor and self deprecation and stuff and it really works. It works well. So again, if we can kind of keep yours looking unlike the other women's out there, I think it's going to help a great deal.
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Well, what we're going to do is connect the two of you guys off the air so you can talk and create the profile. And then, Wendy, you said you already have one up. Beaver, you can write the ad and you can place it on or instruct Wendy to place it it on whichever website or websites you think are right. And we'll put it out there. This is not something. I don't think we're not linking it up to the radio station or anything. Right. Like people.
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Yeah, it'll be outside of Q100, but can she also have him pick out of like maybe five pictures which picture he would pick to put on the profile?
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Oh, yeah, that's important too. We didn't even touch on that.
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And then, like, what picture you would put on the profile.
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Absolutely.
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Like give him a choice of, you know, five or six different pictures of you.
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I mean, I'm definitely willing to try anything. Obviously I don't want to be single for a long time. That's what I feel like. I'm in.
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All right. So Beaver, thank you so much again for your time. We'll have you on again once this has been up and running for a couple weeks. But your website, copypasteandbang.com and we appreciate you taking the time to join us.
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Yeah, thanks for having me on. And Wendy, just one thing. Don't feel like you're being desperate by doing this. I know that somebody had mentioned that it's very popular in San Francisco and it's getting more and more popular everywhere, so you'll be fine.
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All right. It's all Good.
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I'm jumping in with both feet.
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Good, good.
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Thank you, sir. We'll talk to you in a couple weeks.
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Thanks, guys.
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You're on the Birch Show.
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