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Reid
Quinn Grace. This is a hard story to follow here because it's just so unbelievable. And this is right off the Today show yesterday. And it starts off with her like in an Academy award acting job here because she is sequestered in that room and she is getting interrogated. She's balling, man.
Co-host or Commentator
This is the woman who tried to fake her own abduction, right?
Reid
She's been gone for what, four days, was it?
Co-host or Commentator
I think so.
Reid
And now she's in the police station and this is real audio, okay. And they're just trying to get the. They're concerned, you know, they just found her.
Female Commentator
She's been abducted.
Reid
She's just going Academy Award now. Okay, this is 91 1. That's my bet. This was the 911 call that started the whole thing. I think this is when she's initially calling saying she's gotten kidnapped. My name is Quinn Gray.
Narrator or Reporter
Quinn Gray had disappeared from the couple's multi million dollar seaside mansion near Jacksonville, Florida. A frightening four days of forced captivity and sexual assault.
Quinn Gray
I pretty much thought that I was dead. I pretty much thought that I was part of like a slave trade or something like that and that they were going to come in.
Narrator or Reporter
That's the interrogation room on the dining room table. The ransom note that Gray told authorities her abductor forced her to write to her husband. There are three men holding me right now. And they want $50,000 cash. But the St. Johns county sheriff, David Shore, insists it was all an elaborate hoax. We truly believe it was not a kidnapping.
Reid or Co-host
And we truly feel as though we have the evidence to prove that.
Narrator or Reporter
Gray was arrested for trying to extort $50,000 from her husband, a successful business owner making close to a million dollars a year.
Quinn Gray
If I wanted $50,000, all I would
Narrator or Reporter
out of the bank account in the police interrogation room. Gray was at times emotionally overwhelmed, later describing her alleged kidnapper to detectives.
Quinn Gray
Yeah, his eyes were big. Like that? Big. Huge. More hair. Higher.
Narrator or Reporter
That man is Jasmine Osmanovich, a Bosnian immigrant. But authorities say Osmanovich wasn't Quinn Gray's kidnapper, but. But her accomplice and lover.
Reid
Okay, so she's sitting in front of a laptop with a detective, and he must be graphically trying to figure out exactly what the kidnapper looks like. So she's describing this guy that ended up being her accomplice.
Female Commentator
Okay, was that part of the plan? I'm not describing or.
Narrator or Reporter
Listen, all Osmanovich is now behind bars, facing extortion charges and complicating this bizarre case of he said, she said. A salacious 90 minute audiotape of Osmanovich and Gray secretly recorded by Osmanovich and obtained by NBC News. It captures the sounds of the two having sex, as well as rehearsing their stories about the kidnapping.
Quinn Gray
That's why I'm starting to feel like I'm the sinister one.
Narrator or Reporter
Quinn Gray's lawyers say she was suffering from an untreated, undiagnosed manic phase of bipolar disorder. And then in her poor mental condition, she believed Osmanovich's story that her husband was owed Osmanovich $50,000.
Quinn Gray
I was crazy that. I mean, I was completely. I was just doing what I was told to do.
Narrator or Reporter
You have to understand that for now, Quinn Gray is being treated at a mental health facility in Georgia. A condition of her release from jail.
Caller or Guest
What do you want to say to your family?
Quinn Gray
Do you have an apology? I love you and I hope to see you soon.
Reid
All right, so we follow along here. This guy makes a million dollars. Her husband makes a million dollars a year. Right?
Quinn Gray's Husband
She
Reid
ends up kidnapping herself with this other dude.
Female Commentator
Right?
Co-host or Commentator
And then her lover, her lover, the mechanic.
Reid
And by the way, they have all those tapes because the lover was taping everything just in case.
Co-host or Commentator
Yeah, Cuz he didn't want her to then pin it on him. Right?
Reid
So he's taping everything. Right. So they end up busting him. And her defense is she was nutty. She has some kind of bipolar disorder. She didn't even know what she was doing that. The lover story.
Female Commentator
I must have been crazy. I'm sorry. I must have been crazy.
Co-host or Commentator
She fell victim to her lover.
Reid
Right. The lover story is that dude owes him $50,000, so he takes her for ransom. And because she's bipolar and not thinking clearly, she totally believes the story. What a crock. So the husband is actually sticking by the wife, though this is not the.
Co-host or Commentator
Because the husband came out and said that he had been unfaithful in the past and had, like, sort of caused this mental cruelty to her. So he's sticking with her.
Reid
This is the husband now on the Today show with Matt Lauer speaking out. He is sticking by his woman. He totally believes that she was going through this mental bipolar thing and doesn't know what she was doing.
Quinn Gray's Husband
First of all, it's been a roller coaster of emotion from the onset. There are times when, initially when you sit in front of the FBI and they present you evidence that she was the mastermind of this, and you have no choice but to believe that entirely at that point, after the last eight weeks, you come to really understand what really happened. I believe in all of my heart she was kidnapped. I also believe at some point, I'm not sure exactly when, she believed that she needed to be a part of this. It was hard for me to understand when or why that happened. Devastating to say the least. But I'm standing up by her now because I believe that she has a mental illness and that's why we are here.
Co-host or Commentator
And apparently she had abused alcohol for a long time in the past, too. So they were saying that led to some of her mental instability.
Reid
Yeah, he feels like some of his infidelity contributed to her alcoholism. So he's dealing with that guilt also. So he's saying I might have been sort of at the seat of this whole thing, so maybe I caused it. So he's sticking by her now. There is a 90 minute tape of his wife having sex with this other dude, and this dude taped the whole thing. And the husband here listened to the entire tape. He listened to all of it. This is Met Lat. We're asking him about it.
Reid or Co-host
And I have to be honest, Reid, in my listening to it, it did not sound as if she was an unwilling participant in that sexual encounter. When you listen to it, do you think she's being forced to have.
Quinn Gray's Husband
I feel a couple things are happening. I feel that she's definitely participating. I'm not sure after four days of being with this person, what she believes and what she doesn't believe. But I agree with you. There are times when I just want to shut it off and be finished with the whole thing. But I have to remember that there are many times when I heard his voice and him saying things that I believe. He knew I would hear this audio tape at some point as well.
Quinn Gray
That's a long time. Wow.
Female Commentator
An hour and a half.
Reid
Do they only know each other for four days? I don't know their history. I'm not really sure. But listen, did you hear what he said at the very end also, that the dude was, like, taunting her husband in the tape? In the tape. So this guy's listening to his wife having sex with another man, and the man she's having sex with is taunting the husband.
Female Commentator
They're both crazy, because there's no way I'm gonna watch an hour and a half of.
Reid
I don't know if it was audio or if it was video, but either way, I couldn't listen to it for 30 seconds. No, 90 minutes.
Co-host or Commentator
It's just so surprising that he's sticking with her.
Reid
He says that. I think that he's just feeling like he's contributed to it now here he's saying he wants to rebuild the whole family here.
Quinn Gray's Husband
I don't know what will happen. And again, I listen to these tapes, and I think about a marriage, and I have to put that to the side. And I have to think about my two children and my role as a father, and I have to think about my role as her husband and what I need as a family member to do for her through this next portion of the next weeks or months. The marriage part will definitely come later, but initially, I have to care for her because of the state that she's in right now. Whoa.
Female Commentator
Do you think that because you always talk about men and women and manipulation. Because I always think that if the guy's done something wrong and then the woman stays by her man, that she's manipulated. That, like, I'm staying here, but here's leverage. And, you know, you give me what
Reid
I want, that I've got a pass.
Co-host or Commentator
Right.
Female Commentator
I'm curious if he's. That's what he's doing.
Reid
Let's say the slate is clean now. It's totally clean. Wow.
Co-host or Commentator
That's like a soap opera.
Reid
How do you get over that? Now, we've done the. We've asked you guys before, like, tell us what obstacles you had in your relationship that we would never believe that you got over. I would ask the same question today, but there's nobody going to beat that story.
Quinn Gray
Nobody?
Quinn Gray's Husband
Nobody.
Female Commentator
Is that a challenge?
Reid
No. It can't be done.
Reid or Co-host
The Birch Show.
Original Airdate: May 13, 2026
In this riveting episode, The Bert Show team dives into the bizarre and headline-grabbing true crime case of Quinn Gray, a woman accused of orchestrating her own kidnapping in an attempt to extort $50,000 from her wealthy husband. The episode dissects both the shocking details of the alleged crime and the complex aftermath—featuring family loyalty, claims of mental illness, and salacious secret recordings. Through lively conversation and notable audio clips, the hosts explore themes of deception, trust, manipulation, and forgiveness.
Reid: “This is a hard story to follow here because it’s just so unbelievable...” (01:01)
Narrator: “Authorities say Osmanovic wasn’t Quinn Gray’s kidnapper, but her accomplice—and lover.” (03:07)
Quinn Gray: “I was crazy…I was just doing what I was told to do.” (04:11)
Quinn Gray’s Husband:
“I believe in all of my heart she was kidnapped. I also believe...she believed that she needed to be a part of this.” (05:47)
Reid: “He feels like some of his infidelity contributed to her alcoholism. So...maybe I caused it.” (06:42)
Reid: “This guy’s listening to his wife having sex with another man, and the man she’s having sex with is taunting the husband.” (08:10)
Quinn Gray’s Husband: “I have to think about my two children and my role as a father...The marriage part will definitely come later, but initially, I have to care for her…” (08:34)
Female Commentator: “If the guy’s done something wrong and then the woman stays by her man...she’s manipulated...I’m curious if he’s—that’s what he’s doing.” (09:00)
The hosts maintain their characteristic blend of “real and funny” with sharp commentary, incredulity, and lively banter, balancing dark subject matter with a conversational style that keeps the discussion both accessible and thought-provoking.
This episode of The Bert Show offers an insightful, multifaceted exploration of the Quinn Gray case—a saga of deception, mental health, and astonishing loyalty. Through their unfiltered reactions and engagement with real audio from the case, the hosts create an entertaining and reflective look at the limits of forgiveness, family bonds, and the extraordinary stories behind seemingly “perfect” lives.