The Bert Show – "Vault: She Want An Update On Her Ex?!"

Release Date: November 14, 2025
Podcast Host: Pionaire Podcasting
Primary Hosts & Guests: Mila Birch (Host), Sandra Hope (Private Investigator from MateCheck PI), Ellen (Listener/Guest), Ging, Jay, Alexandra, Knox

Episode Overview

In this episode, the Bert Show crew revisits a dramatic listener story in their "dating antichrist" series. Ellen, a past guest, wants an update on a notorious ex-boyfriend whose past was filled with red flags and troubling behavior. With the help of private investigator Sandra Hope, the team uncovers new details about his criminal record and current status. Throughout the episode, the hosts offer insight, humor, and empathetic commentary as Ellen bravely revisits her past.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction of Sandra Hope, Private Investigator

• Mila Birch welcomes Sandra Hope from MateCheck PI, highlighting the increasing number of listeners seeking her PI services for family searches, adoption cases, and covert recordings (01:03-02:51).
• Sandra Hope (01:36): "I can do anything. You can go on my website...if for some reason something's not on there, give me a call. I'm sure I can accommodate you."
• Sandra explains the "covert decoy" service and frequent requests she receives, both for infidelity and for tracking down estranged relatives.

2. Ellen's Relationship with the "Dating Antichrist": Recap

• The show recaps Ellen’s previous relationship, marked by alarming events: gun violence, betrayal, and deceit (03:35-05:10).

• Ellen recounts (03:35):

  • On their first date, he confesses to having legal trouble for shooting at a car during road rage.
  • She finds him intimately involved with her best friend.
  • Discovers photos of other women on his camera and learns he misled her about his job—he worked for an escort service.
  • The final straw: an explosive argument over a phone number, where he accuses her of cheating and threatens violence.

• Ellen (03:55): "Woke up to him and my best friend on the couch right next to me having, you know, their little fun."

• Mila Birch (05:10): "That’s what makes a dating antichrist a dating antichrist..."

3. Listener Vulnerability & Reflection

• The discussion touches on the shame and confusion people feel after toxic relationships (05:28-05:43).
• Mila Birch (05:30): "It still hurts to acknowledge that you were that person."

4. Sandra Hope’s Findings: Unpacking the Ex’s Criminal Past

• Sandra reviews public records and shares a detailed breakdown of the ex’s criminal history (06:17-13:13).

• Sandra Hope on Ex's Charges (06:33):

  • Multiple arrests for drug-related offenses (possession of marijuana, paraphernalia).
  • Carrying concealed weapons.
  • First arrest in 1998 for possession of tobacco while underage.
  • Repeated drug-related charges between 1998 and early 2000s, all in Florida.
  • Never had any criminal offenses in Georgia, where he lives now.

• Memorable Exchange:

  • Jay (09:07): "Ellen, obviously you knew about [the gun] because you've seen his gun on more than one occasion. Once at the gas station, and once when he put a hole in a Ford Mustang."
  • Sandra Hope (10:25): "He has no vehicles in his name...that blue Chevy truck he was driving, whoever it was, it wasn't his."
  • Ellen (11:04): "[I] did [know his sister]."

• The ex now lives with his mother in Georgia, has no job, and owns no car (11:15-12:07).

• Sandra Hope (11:15): "Right now. He’s absolutely doing nothing. He’s living in Georgia and he’s living at his mother’s house with his mother. And he doesn’t have a vehicle and he doesn’t have a job."

• Jay (11:26): "It sounds to me like...his mama pulled him out of Florida, got him in Georgia and now she is watching him like a hawk."

5. Reflecting on Red Flags & Hindsight

• The hosts and Ellen discuss how easy it is to ignore warning signs in an unhealthy relationship and how her mother’s instincts proved correct (12:12-12:32).
• Ellen (12:24): "We’re good now. We got through a rough time there, but we’re good now."
• Jay (12:30): "You trust her judgment just a little more nowadays, right?"
• Ellen (12:32): "Yeah, a little bit."

6. Lingering Questions & the Power of Letting Go

• The crew presses Ellen on whether she suspected his past, and discuss how people with troubled histories can sometimes hide their worst behavior (11:55-12:04).
• Jay and Sandra point out that, just because charges stopped, doesn’t mean he stopped bad behavior; he might just have gotten better at hiding it.

7. Ellen’s Current Perspective and Moving On

• Listeners call in with questions:

  • Alexandra (15:03): "What did she do to her best friend?"
  • Ellen (15:08): "I didn't do anything."
  • Ellen is no longer friends with her former best friend after multiple betrayals (15:12).

• The segment wraps up with hosts reassuring Ellen that her dodgy ex’s life has not improved and that she is better off (15:32-15:55).

• Mila Birch (15:47): "So consider yourself semi lucky, okay?"

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Sandra Hope (06:20): "When he told you that you had potential, he probably meant you had a good potential of maybe being a good drop house."
• Ginger (09:40): "Oh, see, so he really cleaned up his act when you two were together, with the exception of having sex with the girl four feet from you while you were sleeping. I mean, he was really a stand up guy."
• Alexandra (15:03): "What did she do to her best friend?"
• Ellen (15:08): "I didn't do anything."
• Mila Birch (15:47): "So consider yourself semi lucky, okay?"

Important Timestamps

• 01:03-02:51: Sandra Hope introduces her PI services and mentions the types of cases she handles.
• 03:35-05:10: Ellen recounts “dating antichrist” behavior and betrayal.
• 06:17-13:13: Sandra Hope details the ex’s criminal history, addresses Ellen’s questions, and discusses his current status.
• 11:15-12:07: Confirmation that ex now lives with his mother in Georgia, with no job or car.
• 12:12-12:32: Ellen discusses her improved relationship with her mother.
• 15:03-15:12: Discussion of Ellen’s fallout with ex-best friend.
• 15:32-15:55: Hosts offer final advice and reassurance to Ellen.

Episode Takeaways

• Escaping Toxicity: Ellen’s story is a cautionary tale about ignoring red flags and the difficulty of walking away from toxic relationships.
• Self-Reflection & Recovery: Both Ellen and the hosts share the long-term effects of such relationships and the relief that comes with finally seeing the truth.
• Community & Support: The segment closes with support from both the hosts and callers, reinforcing that Ellen—and anyone in similar circumstances—is not alone.

Overall:
A classic Bert Show blend of humor, empathy, and real talk, balancing entertainment with an honest look at toxic relationships and personal growth. Ellen’s willingness to revisit her painful past offers listeners validation and encouragement to trust their instincts, lean on loved ones, and move forward.