The Bert Show: Vault – She Wants A Re-Do Proposal
Date: December 9, 2025
Host: Bert Show Cast (including Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, and various co-hosts)
Main Guest: Jamie (pseudonym)
Key Problem: Jamie discovers her fiancé, "John," proposed to her with the exact same elaborate plan used for his ex—and she’s not okay with it.
Episode Overview
This episode dives into a listener dilemma: Jamie is torn after realizing her fiancé’s heartfelt marriage proposal was a recycled act—identically performed with his ex years earlier. The cast and callers debate: Is Jamie justified in wanting a "re-do" proposal, or is it time to let go and move forward? The discussion uncovers layers of expectations, traditions, creative effort, and the emotional stakes of proposals.
Major Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Proposal Story & Initial Reactions
[01:34–04:17]
- Jamie explains how her boyfriend of two years, John, took her on a nostalgic hometown journey ending in a heartfelt proposal on childhood playground swings, complete with a poem.
- Shock twist: Jamie later learns John proposed in exactly the same way—same activities, same location concept, same poem—to his ex.
- Immediate Panel Reaction:
- Host: “A recyclable proposal is probably the great way to put it.” (03:37)
- Co-host 1: “Cardinal Rule—make a woman feel special... he defied that number one rule.” (01:49)
2. Jamie’s Mixed Feelings
[02:07–04:17]
- Jamie is conflicted: she wants to defend John but also feels betrayed and less “special.”
- Panel notes she’s “trying to defend him the entire time... we know he’s a great guy, you got engaged, whatever, move on.” (02:07)
- Jamie: “I know it’s not everything, and maybe you don’t understand, but, like—oh we totally understand.” (04:27)
3. Is Recycling Proposals Acceptable?
[04:39–06:11]
- Co-hosts/light-hearted argument:
- Host: “You can’t re-gift your engagement... you can’t re-do proposals.” (06:09)
- Co-host 1: “It’s the most important day for a woman... you want to feel special by this guy.” (04:39)
- Callers are split:
- Some urge Jamie to “get over it” and be grateful for a loving partner.
- Others see the recycled proposal as a severe lack of creativity, even disrespectful.
4. Listener Call-Ins: Diverging Views
[05:10–08:32]
- Caller 1: “Get over it. This guy came up with one wonderful idea in his life... stop being so self-absorbed.” (04:52)
- Melissa (Co-host) retorts:
- “But if someone did the same thing to you, you wouldn’t be mad? It’s the definition of self absorption—but it’s an important day for a woman!” (05:11)
- Other caller perspectives:
- “If he’s not creative enough to think of a new engagement, he’s not creative enough to get you through the marriage.” (07:25)
- “If every woman who says she can get over it had the same thing done to her, she’d be mad, too.” (06:47)
- Host brings up the “second best” issue:
- “If you’re the second engagement, that means he loves you second best.” (07:10)
5. The Bar Set for Relationships
[08:03–08:32]
- Candy (caller):
- “What is wrong with women today? Are they so desperate... that they’re just gonna overlook [the lack of effort]?” (08:09)
- Host agrees:
- “Have we just set the bar so low for women…? I’ll take what I can, even though he’s not making me feel special...”
6. What Should Jamie Do?
[08:45–09:47]
- Summer (caller):
- “You have a right to be pissed... but you can’t not marry him because you don’t like the proposal.” (08:47)
- Emphasizes: problems in marriage require honest dialogue—Jamie should discuss her feelings with John.
- Jamie considers a solution:
- “Maybe I’ll have him ask me again.” (09:51)
- Host: “Now, I think that’s kind of romantic… could we do it again a different way?” (09:53)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On feeling special:
- “Cardinal Rule—make a woman feel special. I’m telling you, everything will fall into place if you just make a woman feel special every now and again.” – Co-host 1 [01:49]
- On proposal recycling:
- “You can’t re-gift your engagement… you can’t re-do proposals.” – Host [06:09]
- The creative effort debate:
- “If he’s not creative enough to think of a new engagement, he’s not creative enough to get you through the marriage.” – Caller [07:25]
- Bar set for men in relationships:
- “Have we just set the bar so low for women now that you guys are like… I’ll take what I can…” – Host [08:22]
- Jamie’s idea for a re-do:
- “Maybe I’ll have him ask me again.” – Jamie [09:51]
Key Timestamps
- 01:34–02:31: Introduction—Jamie’s story and her fiancé’s recycled proposal
- 03:37–04:17: Details of the original and “copy” proposal
- 04:39–06:11: Panel’s strong disapproval of “re-gifting” proposals
- 05:10–07:25: Callers chime in: “get over it” vs. “this is a big deal”
- 08:03–08:32: Debating standards and expectations for proposals
- 08:45–09:47: Constructive caller advice; Jamie considers asking for a re-do
Conclusion
This episode reflects a lively, spirited debate about the meaning and weight of tradition, personalization, and effort in milestone moments. While some see Jamie’s fiancé as uncreative or insensitive, others argue it’s the relationship, not the proposal, that truly matters. Ultimately, the cast suggests open communication: Jamie deserves to voice her feelings and request a re-do if it helps her feel special. The tone is teasing yet genuine, with humor and passionate opinions throughout—a classic Bert Show blend.
Ideal for listeners who:
- Value candid, real-life relationship talk
- Enjoy debates about social customs and expectations
- Want examples of both empathy and tough love from hosts and callers
