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The Burt Show. Good morning, Heather. You're on all the hits. Q100. Hi.
B
Hey, how are you guys?
A
Good, how are you?
B
I'm alright. I'm calling because I'm in a big fight with my girlfriend Ashley.
C
Okay.
B
And the reason we're in a fight, I mean, it's like a blowout, you know, big huge fight. Like three days ago, our girlfriend Karen, she's getting remarried to her ex husband.
D
Okay.
B
And the reason her marriage broke up in the first place was that she was cheating on her husband. And we all knew it. She didn't like come out and say it, but everybody knew that that's what was happening. And now they're getting remarried and she just hired this guy she was cheating with to be the web designer for her company.
A
What?
B
She is getting married. And I'm like, I'm not having it. I mean, her ex husband/QB husband again, is a really good friend of mine and I want to tell him. And Ashley thinks that I'm just full of it and I shouldn't put my nose in it or anything, but the fact of the matter is that he was my friend first. And now I feel like I'm stuck in the middle of this because I have this information.
D
So Karen. So Karen's acts and feelings Beyonce together has no idea that this, the guy she was sleeping around with is actually going to work for her now, huh? So he has no idea. See, Yeah.
A
I don't know why I'm confused about the whole scenario, but I'm confused for why.
D
Okay, Karen is the one, the bride, right? And Karen divorced from her husband because she was cheating on him. Right? So now she's getting remarried to him. But the guy she cheated with, she's hired to be her web designer for her company.
A
Oh, and the husband doesn't.
D
And the husband doesn't know. Now Ashley is, you know, one of the friends and says it's nobody's business. And Heather here is like, no, he needs to know.
A
Oh, wow.
D
Am I. Did I get that right, Heather?
B
Yes.
C
Okay, so Ashley says, mind your own business and stay out of it. You say I need to get in the mix.
B
Yeah.
D
Okay. And that's the fight you've had with Heather for the past three days with Ashley. I mean, Ashley, Right. This is Heather. Got it.
A
All right. I'm not exactly sure where to go with this. So the fighting over the last three days is basically you guys just butting heads on what to do with the next phase. She just says, nothing. Don't say it, let it Go.
B
Don't do it. She's like vehemently opposed to me saying anything to him.
E
So are you like you're calling us just so we hop on your side and then you can go back with. To her with more votes? Is that why you're calling us?
B
No, I'm calling it. Well, I want you guys to call her. I want you to call her and get her on the radio and tell her that you guys back me up, that everybody in Atlanta backs me up and that I should go to him and say something.
D
But you're assuming everybody backs you up.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah, because why wouldn't I tell him.
F
If I have this information?
B
He's my friend. Why wouldn't I tell him?
C
That's a tough call right there. I never. I'm always right on the fence on this decision because I think it just depends on how close you are to the groom. Is he an acquaintance or.
B
No, he was my friend before I was friends with Karen.
D
And see, I take it from the side of Karen if I'm the. I mean from him, I guess now because he's the one got cheated on. But you know, again, if you're in that position and your friends have knowledge that you need to know, like it's always the case of if you're the friend that wants to do, you know, say what the friend want, thinks that you should say or what the hard truth. And I'm a hard truth friend. And I want to know if the person that my partner cheated on is actually still in the mix.
A
Yeah.
D
So I. So I think you should tell.
A
How much interaction are they really going to have with each other? A lot.
B
A lot. I mean, this is for her company. He's web designing for her company.
D
And you know for sure that her fiance doesn't know.
B
I know for a fact because he knew he would freak out. She is dragging this guy through a big, huge wedding again.
A
I got it. I think I.
G
The second time.
B
I mean, we are talking everything. I mean, they are sparing no expense and she is pulling this on him again.
A
Wow, that's certainly is walking into a hornet's nest. I don't know that I'd say anything, though. I don't. I don't know.
D
Have you talked to Karen, the bride?
B
No, we haven't talked to her because, I mean, I don't even know what to say to her, but I. I know what's going on.
C
Is Ashley closer friends with Karen?
B
Yeah, because she hurt the husband. The ex husband slash husband. I don't want to Use his name. You know, he.
G
We're all.
B
We've been friends since college, and I knew him. I knew him.
H
Right.
B
A little bit before I met these girls. I knew Ashley around the same time. And then Karen got into the mix.
C
Okay. So if for some reason you go ahead and tell and you talk to ex husband, fiance, then Ashley will probably tell Karen it was you that spilled the beans, right?
B
Yeah.
C
So you'll probably sever your relationship with all of them, especially if he goes ahead and marries her anyway.
B
Yeah.
A
All right. Demi does not agree so much. Good morning. You're on all the hits. Q100.
F
Good morning.
A
Hi.
F
I think this girl Heather is, like, jealous that this girl is actually getting married to her friend again. And if she was so concerned, she should go to the bride. If she has the balls to tell him, then she should go to the bride and say something to the bride. Be like, look, I know what you're up to, and he's my friend, you know, she just. She's whining. It's terrible. She. It sounds like she's just jealous that they get married again. What does she care that they're not sparing any expense on their second marriage?
A
Heather, how do you respond?
B
Because he already went through this before. He already went through this before, and she dragged him through the mud, and now he's gonna do it all over again.
G
If he didn't want to do it again.
B
Are you kidding me?
G
If he didn't want to do it again.
F
He's a grown man. He wouldn't do it again. Obviously, he doesn't know the guy in the picture still. Yeah, but you say that you don't. Why don't you. What is your problem? Why don't you go to the bride and say something if you have the courage.
B
What am I supposed to say to her? She's completely.
F
Same thing you would say to the husband. You would say the same thing that you would say to the husband. If you have the balls to go and talk to the husband, then why don't you have the courage to go and talk to the bride?
G
Obviously, she's going to find out if.
B
I go talk to him, isn't she? Exactly. Why wouldn't you bear to have fun?
F
No right from wrong. You just proved my point. If you know she's gonna find out, why don't you just go to her first? Go to the source first. Why are you going over her head? Because, you know if you have the courage to say something to him, you should have the courage to go to her and say, look, I know what you're up to and he's my friend and who the hell are you to do this to him? It's bothering me and if you don't take care of it, I will. See, that's the right thing to do.
A
Heather. Let's do this. Rather than get Ashley on and tell her that you're right and she's wrong, I'd sure like to hear her side of the story first.
F
Oh, sure, go ahead.
A
Do you think she'd be okay to come on with us?
G
I don't know. I guess.
B
I mean, she is mad about this. So I'm sure as soon as she finds out that I called you guys, she's gonna want to say what she has to say.
A
Is this the kind of thing that could totally ruin your guys relationship?
B
Yeah.
C
Well, it's going to anyway.
A
Yeah, it sounds like it's doomed.
B
The whole thing is like just gonna blow up. It's. It is.
A
All right, Heather, we called Ashley. Your prediction was right. She's eager to come on.
H
Okay.
A
And at least tell her side of the story. Okay.
F
All right.
D
And Heather, you gotta let Ashley tell her side first, okay?
F
Yeah, yeah.
A
Let her go uninterrupted. How long have you guys been friends?
I
Three years.
B
We know, we, we've. It's the three of us, but we've been friends since college.
A
Since college. Okay, so. So it's a pretty deep relationship.
F
Uh huh.
A
Okay, let's get Ashley on here. And again, I think Melissa's right. I think you just gotta let Ashley state her case equal time. Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
Hey, Ashley.
G
Hey guys.
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Hi. How are you?
F
Good.
G
How are you guys doing?
A
Doing okay. You obviously know the situation you're in. And Heather called us this morning and she says there's a situation brewing here between the two of you guys that could ruin your friendship forever. And she wants to try to figure this thing out today, right?
G
Yeah, there is.
B
I just think she should mind her.
G
Own business about the whole situation. And it's not the point that she's being like caring towards Kyle. It's the fact that she just is jealous. So jealous about Karen and Kyle that she doesn't even want them together. So therefore she's gonna do everything she can to, you know, keep them apart.
E
Is she jealous about Kyle or is she jealous that they have jealous about Kyle?
G
She's always had a thing for Kyle. And I think she was hoping when Karen and Kyle broke up that they were going to be together, that Heather and Kyle were going to end up together. And it didn't happen. And she's so sad about it, and she just had to be catty. And I just think she should stay mind her own business.
D
Now, Ashley, let me ask a question. Is it true that Karen has hired her ex lover for, you know, a job?
B
I mean, supposedly, But I don't understand.
G
Yeah, but I mean, that's, you know, six, one half dozen of the other. It doesn't matter. I mean, it's none of our business. It's their business what they want to do. And I think that everyone should stay out of it and let them live their lives.
C
So you think Heather's in the middle.
G
Of it and it's nuts?
C
She doesn't just want to be this great altruistic friend. She wants to. I mean, she wants to break them up.
G
She has, like, a total ulterior motive. If she didn't like Kyle and wasn't, you know, jealous over everything, then, you know, she can't find someone to marry her. So now she's all upset that they're getting married. That's what it was.
F
So wait, hold on.
D
Heather, Heather, Heather.
H
Not know.
D
Heather.
B
He does not know. Are you kidding me?
G
He doesn't know.
B
Heather. But you.
G
I mean, you have to say that you haven't had a thing for. For Kyle, and you're not a little bit jealous over the whole situation, and that doesn't have a little bit to do with what you're trying to do.
B
You got to go dragging up stuff because that's the only reason you can come up with to not tell him. No, it is not.
G
I told you that we.
B
No one should say a word to him. Why do you keep protecting her?
G
I'm not protecting her.
B
But that's not why. What is the reason? Do you. A secret thing for Karen that we.
G
All don't know about? Oh, my God. Get over it.
B
No, you should totally stay out of it.
G
It's none of our business, their relationship. It's not like he's not gonna find out that she's hiring him for her company.
A
Ashley.
B
Except that he's gonna find out after the wedding. After all this other. After all of this.
G
That's what you're jealous about, is the wed like that? You're not jealous.
B
You're not trying to protect him at all.
A
Ashley, let me ask you this, because your accusation here is that Heather's kind of emotionally invested in this dude Kyle. So what has she done over the last couple of years to make you say that? Can you give us, like, a specific instance or Is this just a feeling you have?
F
It's just a total.
G
It's not even a feeling.
B
It's just, you know, when you're around.
G
Her that she has a thing for Kyle.
B
I mean, there's no.
G
Ever since college, there's no doubting it, you know? I mean, you just know.
B
We are good friends. Okay? Ashley, you're more than you want to be, more than you've been close, and you know that. And nothing has ever happened between us, and you know that. And you're just making this up because we're close. So fine. Whatever. You know, it's just such. You're so full of it. And I don't know why you're protecting her so hard.
D
Hey, Ashley, can I ask a question? So let's say Heather did not have feelings for Kyle. Would that change the way you feel?
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No.
G
Because I still don't think it's our business to get into their relationship. It's their relationship, and they need that. I mean, if he's not smart enough to figure it out, Kyle, then you.
B
Know what, then why should.
G
I mean, he needs to. They need to do their own thing.
A
I think it's too big.
G
Nobody to get in the middle of their relationship.
A
It's too big a piece of a puzzle.
B
You are not a friend. You are not even a friend. It's, like, sickening to me that we have all been together this long and that you. You can't step to the plate when something like this happens and open your mouth. That's what pisses me off about the whole thing so much because you are. You're so impartial. And these are our friends. These are people who we love and care about it.
G
But you shouldn't go straight to Kyle.
C
Do you think you could go straight to Karen? Heather?
F
Yes, I do.
B
But she's, like, sitting here barking at me not to do it and making me feel all bad about it.
G
I just told you.
C
She just said to you, go to Karen, don't go to Kyle.
B
I'm going to go to Kyle.
G
That's completely.
F
She.
G
Ashley, I said, that's just causing a huge fight.
B
And she said that. And I was like, are you kidding me?
E
This is starting to get uncomfortable. Keep going.
A
Hold on a sec. Let me. Let me get a couple of virtual listeners.
B
She can't honestly believe that I'm okay with it.
A
Hold on one sec, y'. All. Good morning to Haley. You're on all the hits. Q100. Hi.
B
Hi.
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How are you guys doing?
A
Good, thank you.
F
Good.
I
I just wanted to Say that when Heather was talking about how Kyle was her friend first, that is the most important thing. You have to think about him and how he would feel in this situation. I mean, it's like you would want somebody to do the same thing for you. If somebody else was cheating on you and then all of a sudden they show back up in your life again. Wouldn't you want to know? And that's the exact same thing you have to keep telling yourself. It's so important to tell him and think about his feelings and how this may be. You may, you know, prevent him from making the biggest mistake of his life all over again.
A
Yeah, I'm starting to sway on it now also, like, I'm thinking if. If it depends how good of friends you are, but I mean, if you're truly, truly a good friend, then I think as much as it hurts, if your intention is good, as much as it hurts, I think you got to kind of let him know what he's walking into.
F
Exactly.
B
If I had such a huge thing for him, why would I be risking all of our friendship to tell him something like that?
C
Maybe then you'll score him.
D
That's why I keep asking Ashley. Well, that, you know, okay. Emotions aside, because I want to find out if this is a story or real. That's why I keep asking Ashley, is it fact that Karen's ex lover is now her employee and the fact that Karen's fiance does not know about it? Is that fact regardless of Heather?
B
Yeah.
G
She hired him to do her website.
D
I don't. I don't think that should be lost.
G
Are they going to work in close quarters?
B
Okay. She's already having a huge thing about it and redoing this and that. He's going to give her 8,000 options and all this BS and you know that.
D
I mean, I just.
B
Keeping him around.
A
My thought was. My thought was that we would do like a couples court type thing where we'd have all these Berkshire listeners call up and they decide what you guys should do. But there's no way that you guys are gonna be resolve this by listening to the opinions or just by vote by our listeners. So it seems a little ridiculous.
C
I would like to hear what eventually happens, Heather, what you decide to do.
D
Yeah. And I think there's more issues going on here. Like, I think Ashley and Heather would have had arguments anyway. Because if it is fact that Karen may potentially be tempted to cheat on her husband again and him go through it a second time, and what gets lost is that all that Ashley cares About is the fact that Heather has a crush on Kyle. I think they have more issues going on than just. What, between Karen and Kyle.
G
Yeah, well, I just don't think that she's in it for a good cause. I don't think she has good intentions.
B
By telling Kyle about it. It's not about a good cause. Ashley, where have you been? Okay, this is about our first friends.
C
Y' all are incestuous.
G
That's what it's about.
B
About you jealous of a wedding, that you were such an awful friend, for.
G
Whatever reason, cannot find a guy to marry you.
D
Okay.
C
Okay.
A
Yeah.
D
This Karen and Kyle have nothing to do with the conversation they're having right now.
B
You are so unbelievable.
D
What?
C
What?
D
Yeah.
A
You guys are best friends, y'. All. I mean.
D
Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't think so.
B
No, I just totally have different opinions on this. It's ridiculous.
G
I'm going to think that she's doing this for a good reason, to have good intentions.
D
Well, actually, do you think it should be done, like, forget Heather, like, again? I'm a little concerned about Kyle, to be honest with you. Not you two. And so do you think it should be done where at least Karen is told? Look, you know, don't you think you're about to screw up this again the second time the exact same way?
H
Yeah.
G
I mean, I definitely think she should go to Karen and say, you know, I don't agree with this. This is my good friend, and if you don't do it, then I'll do it. But, I mean, give her the option. Give her the choice.
B
It's her relationship, you know?
G
I mean, just don't go to Kyle and cause a big fiasco before this huge wedding.
A
That seems fair to me. You go to Karen first. And if she says no, stay out of it, then. I think that I've been told her.
B
This the whole time.
G
Go to Karen. Don't just go to Kyle because he's.
B
Better friends with you.
G
I mean, Karen told you this. Go to her and say, look, I don't agree with that.
A
Let me take one more call on this, then we'll move on. There's no way we're gonna be able to resolve this. There's just no way. Good morning. And you're on all the hits. Q100. Hi.
H
Hi. How are you?
A
Good, thanks.
H
I just wondered, if it had all been reversed and Kyle had been the one who had cheated and his ex.
B
Was still in the picture, would they.
H
Still be fighting about telling Karen that.
B
She would tell her in a second that is the fact of the matter. And you are so right. And thank you for saying that.
H
And if that's the case, then Kyle should be told. And I think Kyle should be told anyway, because if somebody was cheating, he deserves to know that before he goes into marriage.
A
Let me ask y', all, when is this all supposed to happen?
B
The wedding's, like, six weeks away.
A
Six weeks away?
G
Yeah.
A
Okay, well, I think, like Jen said, there's no way we're gonna be able to resolve this today. But we gotta follow up with you guys to find out what you're doing. Heather, did Ashley say or did our listener say anything today to make you rethink what you're gonna do?
B
No, they confirmed everything I thought in the first place.
G
So I guess we'll talk to you guys and let you know what happens.
A
And Ashley, if she handles this the way that she plans on handling it, I mean, can you confidently say that your relationship with her is over?
G
Definitely. Because I think she completely did the wrong thing. And I wouldn't want a friend like that doing anything to me.
A
Okay, we'll get your numbers, and we gotta check back in with you.
B
Like, already over, so. Whatever.
A
Sounds like.
F
Yeah.
D
Well, their friendship is, I think, has slowly been, you know, has been degrading for a long time.
E
It sucks that this had to happen on the radio.
A
All right, Heather, Ashley, I'm gonna put you both on hold. We'll get all your contact info, and we should probably talk to you right before the wedding.
B
Well, if you're gonna happen.
A
If you're going to make this happen, Heather, if you're going to talk. When are you planning on doing that?
H
I don't know.
B
I mean, it's just going to kind of depend on when I can get them, you know, both together and we can sit down and have a talk.
A
You're going to do it both together?
F
I'm not sure.
B
I mean, it's going to be sometime in the next week, that's for sure.
D
Well, let us know what you do.
A
Yeah, or we'll keep calling and calling and calling and calling and calling and calling. All right, you guys, we'll see you.
E
Bye.
A
Bye.
B
Bye.
A
The bird show.
Date: January 19, 2026
In this episode, the Bert Show dives into a listener-submitted real-life dilemma involving friendship, loyalty, secrets, and the ethics of revealing infidelity. Heather calls in, torn about whether to tell her longtime friend Kyle (the soon-to-be groom) that his fiancée (Karen) has rehired the man she previously cheated on him with—without Kyle’s knowledge. The conversation intensifies as mutual friend Ashley joins the call, revealing rifts, hidden motivations, and conflicting values at the heart of their friendship.
Heather’s Argument:
Hosts’ Reactions:
Caller Demi Accuses Heather of Jealousy (05:06):
Ashley’s Perspective:
Heather’s Retorts:
Listener Haley (12:54):
Double Standards:
Friends & Fallout:
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 00:08 | Heather introduces dilemma | | 02:35 | Heather requests show’s support | | 05:06 | Caller Demi challenges Heather’s motives| | 07:25 | Ashley joins—motivations questioned | | 08:15 | Ashley accuses Heather of jealousy | | 11:45 | Heather calls out Ashley for passivity | | 12:54 | Listener Haley supports Heather | | 13:44 | Heather on risking friendships for truth | | 16:33 | Panel shifts to practical next steps | | 17:05 | Caller questions double standard | | 18:07 | Ashley confirms friendship would end | | 18:46 | Heather plans to have the conversation soon |
The episode lays bare a tangled web of friendships strained by past betrayals, unresolved emotions, and fiercely held beliefs about loyalty. Heather, driven by a sense of duty (and, some allege, unspoken feelings for Kyle), feels compelled to let her friend know the troubling context behind his reconciliation and upcoming remarriage. Ashley insists Heather’s interference is driven by jealousy and will only cause pain, advocating for boundaries and addressing Karen directly if anyone. Callers and hosts weigh in, oscillating between upholding honesty and cautioning against unnecessary meddling, but ultimately, the debate underscores the complexity of loyalty—when to stand by a friend, and when to stay out of their relationship struggles.
The decision is left unresolved, tensions high, and listeners are promised a follow-up. The episode is a raw, authentic slice of group friendship drama, full of sharp exchanges and no easy answers—classic Bert Show intensity and candor.