Vault: She's Secretly Dating Her Daughter's Boyfriend?!

Summary

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The Bert Show – Vault: She's Secretly Dating Her Daughter's Boyfriend?!

Episode Overview

In this provocative episode of The Bert Show, the hosts and listeners dive into an explosive and controversial family drama: a mother, "Carol" (a pseudonym used for anonymity, with her voice disguised), reveals she has secretly started dating her 19-year-old daughter's ex-boyfriend. The conversation explores boundaries, family loyalty, parent-child competition, age gaps in relationships, and the fallout from prioritizing personal desire over parental responsibility.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Carol's Story: The Secret Relationship

• Carol’s Confession (00:21): Carol, a 39-year-old divorced mother, explains that her 19-year-old daughter introduced her to a 21-year-old man she (the daughter) had been dating. Carol admits that she and the young man became attracted to each other, began seeing each other, and it eventually became intimate.
  • Quote: "He started hitting on me and one thing led to another and now we're seeing each other and she has a real problem with it." – Carol (00:21)
• Nature of the Daughter’s Relationship (01:04): Carol says she isn’t sure if her daughter ever officially called the boy her “boyfriend,” but to her daughter, it was a real relationship.
• Revelation to the Daughter (02:52, 03:00): The daughter found out through caller ID and mutual friends, which ended her desire to see the guy and worsened her relationship with Carol. They now don’t speak.
  • Quote: "She hates him now." – Carol (03:28)

2. Host and Listener Reactions

• Immediate Disapproval (04:07 – 04:29): The hosts express strong discomfort—not primarily with the age gap, but with the breach of parental boundaries and family trust.
  • Quote: "You're screwing over your daughter... I don't think you're going to find [support] here, Carol." – Bert (04:11)
• Comparisons to Celebrities (04:04): Carol attempts to justify the relationship by pointing to celebrity age-gap couples (e.g., Ashton Kutcher & Demi Moore), but the hosts remain unconvinced.
• Listener Janine's Perspective (05:35 – 07:19):
  • Janine, a caller, defends the age gap but struggles with the family betrayal aspect.
  • Quote: "If they were not engaged or on the verge of being married... what's the difference?" – Janine (06:22)
• Hosts Disagree (07:04–07:57): Jeff and Bert emphasize prioritizing the parent-child bond over personal relationships, sharply pointing out Carol’s responsibilities as a mother.
  • Quote: "The relationship between mother and daughter has ended. Because mom has chosen to date a boy that daughter used to date." – Jeff (07:07)

3. Ethics, Boundaries & Competition

• Host Challenge (08:00, 10:38): The presenters distinguish between the acceptability of older men with younger women and the issue at hand: dating within the child’s friend group and betraying trust.
• Competitive Mother-Daughter Dynamic (10:46, 11:16): Carol admits to a long-standing competitive relationship with her daughter, suggesting attention, attractiveness, and approval were always shared battlegrounds.
  • Quote: "We've always been very competitive with each other." – Carol (10:49)

4. Emotional Fallout & Parenting Responsibility

• Impact on Family (12:05–13:01): Bert and the co-hosts highlight how Carol’s actions damage the foundational values of parenting—prioritizing the child’s well-being and happiness.
  • Quote: "This is all about the win. This is all about you showing up your daughter.” – Bert (12:05)
• Carol’s Justification: Carol maintains her happiness matters too and seems oblivious to the full emotional harm caused.
• Blunt Listener Feedback (13:33–16:41):
  • Nicole, an impassioned caller, directly rebukes Carol, accusing her of selfishness, emotional abuse, and maternal failure.
  • Quote: "If you call yourself any type of a real mother at all... you need to leave him alone. There is no way that you should be that damn selfish." – Nicole (13:43)

5. Social Consequences & Warnings

• Mockery & Future Regret (13:01, 17:32): Callers warn Carol that her actions could render her a laughingstock among the boyfriend’s peers and damage lifelong family ties.
  • Quote: "Has it ever occurred to you that this 21-year-old and his friends—like, you're the joke?” – Jeff (13:10)
• Legacy & Regret: Multiple hosts and callers remind Carol that her children will one day be responsible for her care, implying that her current actions could have future ramifications on those bonds.
  • Quote: "Remember this, Carol?... Those children are going to be the ones to care for her later." – Caller (09:07)

6. Final Thoughts & Conclusion

• Show Hosts’ Summation (18:04–18:35): The hosts make it clear that, while Carol may have sought validation, the overwhelming consensus is negative, and her actions were egregious violations of parental trust and loyalty.
  • Quote: "You know what you're doing's not right. Come on now." – Bert (18:04)
• Carol’s Reluctant Acknowledgement (18:12): Even Carol agreed to some extent: "I mean, you're right, it's not right."
• Ongoing Self-Justification: Despite widespread condemnation, Carol remains partly defensive and noncommittal about ending the relationship.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [00:21] Carol: "He started hitting on me and one thing led to another and now we're seeing each other and she has a real problem with it."
• [02:29] Jeff: "How not intimate have you not gotten with him? ... Have you not gotten close to all the way?"
• [04:11] Bert: "You're screwing over your daughter, you know, so I'm not exactly sure what kind of reaction you're looking for, but I don't know that I'm going to be able to field a lot of calls saying, you know what? It's all fair game..."
• [07:07] Jeff: "The relationship between mother and daughter has ended. Because mom has chosen to date a boy that daughter used to date."
• [12:05] Bert: "This is all about the win. This is all about you showing up your daughter. In this competitive relationship that you have, this is a win for you in your column and a loss for her. But it's breaking apart your family."
• [13:43] Nicole (caller): "If you call yourself any type of a real mother at all to your daughter, you need to leave him alone. There is no way that you should be that damn selfish."
• [13:01] Jeff: "Has it ever occurred to you that this 21-year-old and his friends—like, you're the joke?”
• [18:04] Bert: "You know what you're doing's not right. Come on now."
• [18:12] Carol: "I mean, you're right, it's not right."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:21 – Carol’s initial story and relationship details
• 01:34 – How Carol met her daughter’s boyfriend
• 03:00 – How the daughter found out
• 04:07–04:11 – Bert’s clear opposition to Carol’s actions
• 05:36 – Listener Janine calls in to defend Carol (age gap angle)
• 07:07 – Jeff lays out the emotional cost and betrayal
• 08:34 – Arguments about age gaps versus family trust and boundaries
• 10:46 & 11:16 – Carol admits competitive dynamic with her daughter
• 13:33–16:41 – Strong call-ins from Nicole and others condemning Carol’s choices
• 17:15–17:32 – Hosts and callers warn Carol of future regret and mockery
• 18:04–18:12 – Carol reluctantly admits “it’s not right,” show closes

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Tone & Style

The hosts bring their characteristic candid, funny-yet-real tone, pulling no punches in their condemnation of Carol’s actions. Callers, too—especially Nicole—bring raw emotional honesty and motherly critique. The conversation is equal parts tough love, heated debate, and ethical reckoning, with light moments sometimes punctuated by outright exasperation.

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Summary in a Sentence:
The Bert Show confronts an unsettling family situation—where a mother secretly dates her daughter's ex—sparking a passionate debate on boundaries, loyalty, and maturity, ultimately leaving the audience with a powerful cautionary tale about the cost of putting personal desire ahead of parenthood.

Transcript

[Bert]

The Birch show voice disguiser on.

[Jeff]

Indeed.

[Bert]

We are gonna call this Birch show listener, not her real name. We are gonna call her Carol. Hey, Carol.

[Carol]

Hi.

[Bert]

How are you today?

[Carol]

Good. How are you?

[Bert]

Good. Now, you can't hear it in the phone, but you're on the voice disguiser right now, so your voice is unrecognizable.

[Carol]

Okay.

[Bert]

All right, go for it.

[Jeff]

Tell us your story now.

[Carol]

Okay. I have two girls and a boy. And I just. I've been divorced probably about a year. And my 19 year old D had a guy she'd been dating. She introduced me to him. Then he started hitting on me and one thing led to another and now we're seeing each other and she has a real problem with it.

[Bert]

All right, you're how old?

[Carol]

39. Just turned 39.

[Caller 1]

And how old is he?

[Carol]

21.

[Caller 1]

And how old is your daughter?

[Carol]

19.

[Bert]

Okay, and did you. Have we established that is it just more than a crush, you know, like that your daughter has on this guy? Have they gone out before or she's just expressed to you that she's interested in him?

[Carol]

They've gone out.

[Bert]

They have gone out. Are they technically boyfriend, girlfriend?

[Carol]

I'm not sure if they ever were boyfriend or girlfriend because she doesn't let me into all that. I never saw him over at our house or him pick her up, but in her eyes, they were boyfriend and girlfriend.

[Caller 2]

How long were they boyfriend and girlfriend?

[Carol]

A couple months.

[Bert]

If you're not around a lot when he's around the house or.

[Carol]

I'd never met him.

[Bert]

Then how did you meet him in the first place?

[Carol]

She introduced us when we went. We went out one night and he was there and she introduced us. This is my mom. This is the guy I've been telling you about. And that was how we met.

[Caller 1]

So, Carol, explain to me how you decided that it was okay for you to be interested in this guy.

[Carol]

I don't know if that it was okay, but I decided there was attraction there and we had a lot of fun when we went out. And, you know, he called all the time and he's just like the perfect guy.

[Bert]

You're like Stacy's mom is this. I mean, you're not looking at this as long term. You're looking at this just to get your fix on, right?

[Nicole]

I'm not sure. I don't know.

[Bert]

Have you been intimate with him?

[Carol]

No.

[Bert]

That's because I'm hearing yes loud and clear. Yeah.

[Caller 1]

So that means yes.

[Jeff]

How? How not intimate have you not gotten with him? Have you not gone all the way no. Have you not gotten close to. All the way?

[Nicole]

Yes.

[Bert]

How long. How many times have you seen this guy naked?

[Nicole]

Naked?

[Carol]

No, I've seen him probably more than about 10 times.

[Bert]

10 times.

[Jeff]

How many times have you seen him naked?

[Carol]

None.

[Caller 2]

And does your daughter know that you're.

[Carol]

Seeing him by mistake.

[Caller 1]

I'm sorry.

[Carol]

By mistake. She knows.

[Bert]

How's that?

[Caller 1]

How'd she find out?

[Carol]

She looks at the caller id, sees that he calls. I'm seeing some. I'm seeing a guy that's my age, but when I talk about, you know, this other guy, I accidentally say his name.

[Caller 1]

And that's how she found out.

[Carol]

She found out? Some people told her.

[Caller 2]

Who?

[Carol]

Some of his friends.

[Caller 1]

Okay.

[Bert]

And she continues to see him or she's not seeing him anymore.

[Carol]

She hates him now.

[Bert]

She hates him now?

[Caller 1]

Well, yeah, and some of his friends.

[Jeff]

Have his friends announce to her. Like, can you imagine that conversation?

[Caller 1]

Well, that's her friends, too. Like, it's not just his friends telling some random girl. This is her friends, too. This is your daughter's group that you were invading. You're 39 years old.

[Bert]

What's your question? Because, I mean, you know, most of the calls that we're gonna take are just telling you that you're out of your mind, Right?

[Carol]

Yeah, but, I mean, that happens sometimes in life. I mean, there's a lot of celebrities that have the same age difference and they work out fine.

[Caller 2]

Are you trying to be the Atlanta version of Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore?

[Carol]

No, I'm just trying to justify what I'm doing.

[Bert]

I don't know how you're gonna be able to do that. Cause you're screwing over your daughter, you know, so I'm not exactly sure what kind of reaction you're looking for, but I don't know that I'm going to be able to field a lot of calls saying, you know what? It's all fair game if that's what you're looking for. I don't think you're going to find it here, Carol.

[Carol]

Well, I don't know. I mean, if they were going to. If they were meant to be, then they would still be together. And they've been over for a long time. It wasn't just a month, three months, six months ago.

[Caller 2]

What was your daughter's reaction when she found out? What's been the conversations between the two of you?

[Carol]

We don't talk.

[Caller 2]

Wait, what was the initial reaction? What'd she say to you?

[Carol]

You know, are you trying to compete with me? Are you, you know, are you Doing this to hurt me. And that's not my intentions at all.

[Jeff]

What is? What is? And I can't think of another way to phrase this, so it's gonna sound very rude, which normally would stop me, but in this case it won't. What is wrong with you that you cannot date someone your own age or find someone your own age?

[Carol]

I don't think age matters.

[Jeff]

But why? If age doesn't matter, then why don't you date someone closer to your own age?

[Carol]

I could.

[Jeff]

Why don't you?

[Carol]

I haven't found a person I'm attracted to that's my age.

[Bert]

Janine here says there's nothing wrong with what she's doing. Hey, Janine.

[Jeff]

Come on.

[Janine]

Hey. Good morning.

[Bert]

Good morning.

[Janine]

The only problem that I have with you guys giving her a hard time is that if it were a man dating a younger woman, nobody would have a problem with it. Now granted, this lady who married a 15 year old boy is obviously wrong. But this woman is still young. And if she finds compatibility with a 21 year old man, I don't see anything wrong with it. I myself am 31, started dating my husband when I was 21 and he was 40 and nobody ever gave us any problem.

[Jeff]

The age thing, don't have a problem with it. But have you ever heard the phrase that blood is thicker than water?

[Janine]

Well, that's true. And that brings me to my next point.

[Jeff]

Good.

[Janine]

If they were not engaged or on the verge of being married and they were broken up when she started dating him, which I think that's what she said. Am I not correct?

[Bert]

I didn't hear that.

[Janine]

I thought she said they hadn't been seeing each other for a while before she went out with him.

[Jeff]

She said they had broken up.

[Janine]

Okay? Saying that she should be more interested in her mother's happiness than.

[Bert]

You're kidding me, right? Go ahead.

[Jeff]

Listen, it's. You are saying that the daughter should be more responsible for the mother's happiness. What about the mother being responsible for her daughter's happiness? What about the mother if they were broken up?

[Janine]

What's the difference?

[Jeff]

It doesn't matter. The daughter is heartbroken over this. The relationship between mother and daughter has ended. Because mom has chosen to date a girl that daughter a boy that daughter used to date.

[Bert]

Janine, are you a mom?

[Janine]

Yes, I am.

[Bert]

Okay, so you know the minute that you put you in front of your children, it's the wrong decision.

[Janine]

But being a single parent, my son understands too that my happiness is very important.

[Bert]

Not at the expense of your daughter or Your son or any of your children. I mean, it's not even a question. If there's any kind of controversy at all that is going to drive a wedge between you and your kids, you got to fix it. You got to back out, and you got to fix it. And the fact that they're not even talking anymore. There's your results.

[Jeff]

Hang on. Bert, I want to call you out on something before listeners do.

[Bert]

Okay?

[Jeff]

That's not entirely true, because if this woman was dating just a random guy and the daughter had a problem with it and decided not to speak to her mom.

[Janine]

Exactly. There's no difference.

[Jeff]

Yeah, there is a difference. If the daughter had a problem, then the daughter has to learn that her mom is moving on and dating other people. And she might not be happy with everyone that she's chosen.

[Nicole]

Any guy that she goes out with.

[Janine]

If they're close to her daughter's age, that could be any random guy.

[Jeff]

No, this is a friend of the daughters. This is the same circle of friends.

[Janine]

The daughter, she can meet any random guy that could have gone out with her daughter in the past.

[Bert]

You don't think that the friend has anything to do with anybody else?

[Caller 1]

Well, I mean, that's ridiculous. Come on. I mean, I can't believe that this woman actually is justifying Carol's actions. Carol was introduced to this guy because it was the guy her daughter was seeing. And it is appalling. I mean, I called her names off air. I called Carol names off air. It is appalling to me that Carol is doing this and anybody that supports her. It's appalling to me, too.

[Caller 2]

Carol's children will be picking out her nursing home. She better remember the decisions that she's making now because these children are going to be the ones to care for her later.

[Jeff]

Yeah. Remember this, Carol?

[Caller 1]

I don't care for her at all.

[Caller 2]

Exactly.

[Jeff]

When you have a. When you're way old and something terrible happens to you, guess who gets the decision on whether or not they're going to unplug the air pump?

[Bert]

Good morning, Amber. You're on the Burke Show. Hi.

[Amber]

Good morning, guys. Is Carol still on the line?

[Bert]

She is, but I just can't put the two of you guys on together because then you got two people talking on the Voice.

[Amber]

Well, first of all, let's get a young caller. That's me. I'm 21. No more of those old husbands that just called.

[Jeff]

Oh, God.

[Amber]

And let's just say that she's trying to justify herself because she knows that she is wrong in the Situation. Her daughter shouldn't hate the guy. She needs to hate her mother. And she says that she doesn't care about age, but how would she feel if her daughter was dating a 40 year old man?

[Bert]

See, again, I think I'm with Jeff. Like, the age thing is the least of my concerns in this whole thing. Like, parents are going to have difficult times with their children and vice versa. And we're going to go through this dance where we're not going to agree with all the decisions that we make. We can get past that. But this is malicious.

[Nicole]

Yeah, no, I agree.

[Amber]

Because it's ruining the relationship. I think she's scum for it. And I would like to hear a story about her daughter. Sleep sleepwalks and pees on her face.

[Jeff]

Oh, God.

[Bert]

Oh, my.

[Jeff]

Yeah, like we could. We could. For future calls, like we could for Carol. Is that her name?

[Caller 1]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Take the age thing out of it. Like, who cares how old or young? He's legal. She's an adult. They're making an adult decision. That's fine. And focus strictly on the fact that Carol is dating a woman who. A man who used to date her daughter.

[Bert]

Hey, Carol, I gotta ask the question. Like, I'm no psychologist or anything, I'm no Dr. Phil or anything, but do you have some kind of weird competitive thing with your daughter?

[Carol]

Yes.

[Bert]

Well, why?

[Carol]

We've always been that way.

[Caller 1]

You've always allowed it to be that way. You're the mom.

[Carol]

I'm not sure why it's always been that way, but I mean, this is. I mean, do I have to get her approval with every guy I go out with?

[Jeff]

No.

[Bert]

The only thing here is that this is somebody that she's been interested in, has gone out with. You don't see the difference there? Or you just pretend and you don't see it?

[Caller 1]

She does. She does.

[Carol]

I do.

[Bert]

Okay.

[Caller 2]

Carol, why can you not allow your daughter to have more attention than you?

[Carol]

It's not me, it's her.

[Caller 2]

Okay, so as a mother, you're not able to allow your daughter to have more attention than you. That's obvious from this situation. Why?

[Carol]

It's not about that. It's just, you know, we've always been very competitive against. With each other.

[Jeff]

Jen is asking you why?

[Caller 2]

Why?

[Carol]

Why? Because I probably don't. I mean, I've always heard I don't look my age. We look more like sisters than we do mother and daughter, and she resents that.

[Caller 1]

Why?

[Caller 2]

What are you missing in your life? What are you. What void is present that you are filling with the attention from your daughter's ex boyfriend.

[Carol]

He gives. It gives me attention, and I like that. It would be with any guy, not just that guy.

[Bert]

This is all about the win. This is all about you showing up your daughter. And in this competitive relationship that you have, this is a win for you in your column and a loss for her. But it's breaking apart your family.

[Caller 1]

Well, it violates everything a mother should be. I mean, you to me, you. I mean, there's so many words, Carol, that I'm trying to think of, but it is pathetic and you are immature and it is. You're not a mom.

[Bert]

Here's what I don't get, Carol. Like, you know, I've got a three year old now, and every single day my only goal is to make sure his life is better than mine was. You know, I really do believe, like, every generation should be better than the last one.

[Nicole]

Right, Right.

[Bert]

And that is totally counterproductive to what you're doing. You're saying, I want to be competitive. I don't want my daughter to feel good about herself. I want to be better than my daughter.

[Carol]

No, not necessarily. My daughter has a better life than I had because I've provided her with it.

[Caller 1]

Well, not emotionally. Absolutely not. And the thing is, you realize you're a joke. I mean, has it ever occurred to you that this 21 year old and his friends like you're the joke?

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Carol]

I don't believe that.

[Jeff]

Oh, absolutely.

[Caller 1]

Well, guess what? I'm here to tell you you're a joke.

[Bert]

Now, normally I don't put two people on the voice disguiser at the same time, but in this case, I'm gonna break that rule. Because there's only one way to end this conversation, and that's with Nicole. So y' all won't be able to recognize her voice. And she doesn't want to be on the voice disguiser, but she's going to be just so I can have her talk directly to Carol. Hey, Nicole, good morning. How are you?

[Nicole]

I'm doing fine until I heard this heifer on the other line being selfish.

[Bert]

You're actually on. She can hear you. And you're on with her. You're both on the voice disguiser, so you can talk directly to her.

[Nicole]

Okay, if you call yourself any type of a real mother at all to your daughter, you need to leave him alone. There is no way that you should be that damn selfish. Like the last caller said, there is too many men out here in the world for you to be dating someone that dated your daughter. If you was a real woman, you would come out and go ahead and say whatever you got to say to your daughter. If you was a real woman, you will go ahead and find your own man. It don't make no damn sense for you to have to stoop so low to steal someone that she was with. That's ridiculous. Not only you should have no reason to being a mother, that's one thing. Because you don't have your priorities together. And you being too damn selfish. Being a parent, a real parent is when you're unselfish, everything goes to your child, not to you. No more. You worried about you. You going through a midlife crisis. And if you need to take time to be away and do whatever you gotta do, then fine. But you about to mess up your relationship with your daughter where it's gonna be unrepairable. I would never ever even think about doing anything like that to my daughter. Because I love her too much. I don't love myself that much. I love her that much. You need to get it together. And if you need to lead the state, the country and the continent to get it together, then you do so. But you are going to ruin this girl's life. Her friends are going to be laughing at her, her family, the rest of her family that has sex will be laughing at her. And she's going to get messed up because of you. So you make sure all these dumb ass decisions you making when it's time for your behind to go in a nursing home. When it's time for someone to decide whether you should live or die. If you in a situation where you are some type of machine, remember what you're doing right now.

[Bert]

Hey Carol.

[Nicole]

Remember it?

[Bert]

Carol, you want to respond to that?

[Carol]

I just think that, you know, women overreact and if they were in this situation, I don't think that they would. They may do what I'm doing.

[Jeff]

Hey, Nicole.

[Nicole]

Acting. Why can't you find your own man? I can't find. No you don't. You have your daughter's man.

[Carol]

It's not. Are you that sad?

[Nicole]

Are you that pathetic? Are you that ugly? Are you that bad off when you gotta find some your daughter's leftovers? Are you really that pathetic and that sad? Are you?

[Carol]

No, I'm just getting what I want.

[Nicole]

Have you ever heard of Bitterball? Baby, it's too many men running around. Why don't you just leave him alone till February and butter hook you up at Bitterball and maybe somebody as sick as you will be there and want to Be with your crazy ass.

[Carol]

That's your opinion.

[Nicole]

What? Yeah. Cause I'm a mother. Mothers don't do this. Mothers don't do this to their children. Mothers don't do that to their kids.

[Carol]

I'm not doing anything to her.

[Nicole]

Whatever. What word for you, bitch? Defects. Defects need to come and take your kids.

[Bert]

Take care.

[Jeff]

Adult care.

[Janine]

Take care.

[Bert]

19 year old. Hey, Carol, you had the note. Thanks, Nicole. I always love you culture, Nicole.

[Nicole]

You work get that crazy half octopus.

[Jeff]

You know what, Nicole? You were worked hard. But like Bert said, Carol has a little Bitch.

[Bert]

You called knowing this was gonna happen.

[Caller 1]

I mean, grow up, Carol, come on, you know better. You know better and you're at. You're just trying to, like you said earlier, justify actions you know are wrong.

[Nicole]

Grow up.

[Caller 2]

We may not be able to get through to you, Carol, because of all of our rational thinking, but the one thing that might get through to you is what Melissa said is that you are a joke. Those guys are high fiving each other and laughing at each other. And you want so much attention and you want it to be all about you. That may be the one thing that.

[Caller 1]

Seeps in.39 on an average scale is not old. But in this situation, you are an old joke. Well, I don't think face the fact.

[Jeff]

That you're old, you know, and it's come up a couple of times, like look at, go to a hospital and look at the list of people who can come into intensive care, because those are all the people that can someday stand on your food tube.

[Caller 1]

So how do your sons. We haven't even, we didn't even regard your sons. But you know what? It's not just affecting your joke to your own family, Carol.

[Bert]

I'm not sure what you were calling up to get here today. If you're just calling to get a reaction, you sure got that. But you know what you're doing's not right. Come on now.

[Carol]

I mean, you're right, it's not right.

[Bert]

But you gonna do anything about it?

[Caller 1]

She's gonna have sex with him, then when he leaves and she's gonna say.

[Nicole]

I don't know what happened.

[Jeff]

I mean, yeah, you're gonna be. You're good, you're going. You are gonna be a mockery.

[Carol]

Yeah, I understand.

[Bert]

And you're losing your children and you're gonna be a very, very, very lonely, lonely, lonely old lady man.

[Caller 1]

Good luck with that. Trying to ha. Good luck with that.

[Bert]

Lose the competitiveness with your own kids. That's crazy, Carol.

[Carol]

Okay, okay.

[Jeff]

You're just saying stuff to get off the phone now at this point. Aren't you?

[Caller 1]

That's good.

[Bert]

So are we.

[Caller 1]

Yeah. Get her off the phone.

[Bert]

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