Vault: She's So Innocent She's Willing to Take a Lie Detector to Prove It

Summary

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The Bert Show – "Vault: She's So Innocent She's Willing to Take a Lie Detector to Prove It"

Date: March 27, 2026
Cast: Bert Show team and Bethany (caller)

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on a dramatic listener situation: Bethany, a caller, wants to prove her innocence to her boyfriend, who is suspicious about her close relationship with her stepbrother—so much so that she's willing to take a lie detector test on air. The show dives deep into themes of jealousy, sibling dynamics, trust in relationships, and how harmless childhood experiences can snowball into major adult drama.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Bethany’s Story: The Roots of Suspicion

• Background: Bethany and her boyfriend have been dating for six months. She’s very close to her stepbrother, who lives in New York and is a model. They frequently text, email, and she visits him often.
• The Confession: Early in her relationship, Bethany shared with her boyfriend that her first French kiss was with her (now) stepbrother. This happened when they were both about 11 years old, before their parents married and made them stepsiblings.
  • Quote: “We grew up next door... Our parents got married later. At the time, we were just kids... It was something like when you play together in the garage.” – Bethany (01:38)
• Current Problem: After initially brushing it off, Bethany’s boyfriend has grown more insecure, uncomfortable with her close relationship with her stepbrother, and the situation has started causing fights that threaten the relationship.

2. Is the Boyfriend Overreacting?

• Jealousy and Insecurity:
  • The cast debates whether the boyfriend is simply threatened by the stepbrother being a handsome model and by their closeness.
  • Some suggest that if the stepbrother wasn’t a model—or so attractive—the boyfriend might not care as much.
    • Quote: “Nope. I think it happened once he saw that he really was a model in New York.” – Co-host (06:04)
    • Quote: “If you’re a model in New York City, that means you’re in the top 1/2 of 1% of models. You know what I’m saying?” – Co-host (06:08)
• Sibling/Step-sibling Dynamics:
  • The show discusses how being step-siblings (not blood-related) might complicate the outsider’s understanding, but living as siblings since age 13 should erase romantic assumptions.
  • Quote: “So from, let’s say, 13 on you guys are living in the same house as siblings.” – Co-host (07:34)

3. The Logic of the Lie Detector

• Bethany’s Motivation:
  • She wants to clear her name, stating firmly there’s been nothing romantic or physical since childhood—"I 100% guarantee, nothing. I would never, as an adult, have anything physical with my stepbrother." (04:51)
  • She sought the show’s help for proof, indicating her boyfriend’s doubts are straining the relationship.
    • Quote: "I'm willing to do anything because now it's just getting out of hand." – Bethany (05:19)

4. Listener Reactions: Judgment & Support

• Some callers suspect Bethany is hiding something (“it just sounds too hideous”), while others believe her boyfriend’s insecurity means he’s looking for a way out.
  • Quote: “He’s just looking for a way out of the relationship. There’s no way he could be jealous of a kiss at 11 years old.” – Lisa, caller (10:18)
• Conversation turns to differences in sibling relationships and whether being an only child prevents the boyfriend from understanding her closeness to her stepbrother.
  • Quote: “He doesn’t understand the relationship because it is cool to see, like, Jen with her brother... So he is totally weirded out by this girl telling another guy that she loves him. Going to visit him.” – Co-host (11:17)

5. Red Flags and Relationship Advice

• The panel concludes the boyfriend’s jealousy is a major red flag.
  • Quote: “I think it’s a big old red flag if that’s the case. I say dump him now because he’s gonna have jealousy issues with dudes your entire relationship.” – Host (12:29)
• The show schedules to get Bethany on the lie detector later in the day to settle the issue once and for all.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bethany on Her Childhood Kiss:
  “It's like what you do when you're a kid, you know, like when you fake get married when you're kids... it wasn't like there's a real attraction here.” (01:38–03:15)
• Co-host on Jealousy:
  “If you're a model in New York, you're doing cool model things and going to cool model parties... and dudes down here in Atlanta doing non-model things, sitting around with average-looking people... and it's not fun.” (08:05)
• On Only Children Not Understanding Sibling Bonds:
  “He's an only child. He doesn't understand.” (10:29)
• On Relationship Red Flags:
  “Dump him now because he’s gonna have jealousy issues with dudes your entire relationship.” (12:29)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening of Situation & Backstory: 00:56 – 03:34
• Bethany Explains First Kiss with Stepbrother: 01:38 – 03:20
• Discussion on Stepbrother’s Attractiveness: 06:04 – 08:05
• Caller Lisa’s Take – “He Wants Out”: 10:15 – 10:24
• Sibling Dynamics/Only Children Discussion: 10:28 – 11:39
• Final Relationship Advice & Lie Detector Plan: 12:13 – 12:50

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Tone & Show Dynamics

The Bert Show keeps things light, humorous, and real—even when dissecting complicated relationship drama. Panelists tease each other and the caller, but the advice is candid, often blunt, and rooted in the belief that healthy relationships require trust and strong boundaries. The conversation is lively, empathetic, and peppered with relatable personal anecdotes.

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For listeners seeking relationship advice, especially about jealousy and family bonds, this is a classic Bert Show episode—real, funny, and revealing.

Transcript

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[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

This is the Bird show. This is Bethany. And we have suggested that she use the lie detector.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

She wants to prove to her boyfri that she has never had anything physical or any kind of attraction to her stepbrother.

[Caller or Co-host 2]

Weird.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

Hey, Bethany, if you hear one, you hear them all. Yeah, thanks for calling. So you gotta give us a little history here. Cause we're all real curious about what your boyfriend saw that makes him think that you've been hooking up with him.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

I know it sounds like kind of messed up, like, you know, with hooking up with stepbrother. But when I explain it, you're going to totally see where I'm coming from here. So my boyfriend and I have been dating for about like six months, something like that.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

Okie dokie.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

Three months into the relationship, he met my stepbrother. My stepbrother came down. He lives in New York and he's a model. And so we're really close. So we text all the time and we email. And I have the means where I can go visit him in New York often. So we're really, really close. So after my boyfriend met my stepbrother, I decided to tell him the story, which I thought was funny, was that my stepbrother was actually my first French kiss. But at the time. Okay, don't get any of you. At the time, we weren't stepbrother and stepsister. Like, we grew up next door. His parents were divorced, mine were getting divorced. And then what ultimately happened was that our parents got married. But at the time, like, we Were just kids, you know, like kids go, you know, mess around in the garage. It was something like that.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

What's the. What's the definition of kid? How old are you?

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

I don't know. I mean, we were like 11, something like that. Like young.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

So this really happened because the way you said it was. You thought it was funny to tell him. So you real. This really was your first French kiss? Yeah, it's always funny to say, you

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

know, but it's like to me, it's like, oh, you know, it's like what you do when you're kid, you know, like when you fake get married when you're kids, you know, like, you ever do that? Like the silly stuff like that?

[Caller or Co-host 3]

Was it like you guys were dating or is it like, you want a French kiss? Yeah, I'll French kiss. Do you want a French kiss? Yeah, I'll French kiss.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

And then you went like, yeah, exactly. It was like, have you ever French kissed?

[Caller or Listener]

No.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

Have you French kissed?

[Caller or Co-host 2]

Why didn't.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

Okay, we're in the garage, you know, we're just friends and whatever.

[Caller or Co-host 2]

Right. Trying to emulate the movie scene. You're moving your head side to side a lot.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

It wasn't like there's a real attraction here. We were just like best friends who grew up and.

[Caller or Co-host 2]

Right.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

It was like a boring afternoon.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

Okay, well, why did you tell your boyfriend this though?

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

No, I think, I think it's legit.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

Like if you, if he becomes your stepbrother and then you tell your boyfriend that story.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

Yeah, I mean, it happened when they were 11 years. It's a funny story that I would tell Stacy.

[Caller or Co-host 2]

Yeah, I would tell one of those

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

things, you know, because he's like, oh, you guys, you know, you guys talk all the time. So close. I was like, oh, well, you know, there was this one time and I thought it was. I think it's funny because I'm like, what are the odds then that, you know, you like grow up next to your best friend and then your parents get married and then it's like, oh, well, okay, well, now we're brother and sister. And nothing ever happened after that, like, ever. Like there was nothing sexual or physical or anything. Like we just grew up as best friends. Like, that's just what happened. And so we stayed in touch to this day, which is why we email and text all the time. But now it's gotten to the point ever I. Since I've already told that story, you know, my boyfriend kind of laughed it off at first. Like, haha, that's kind of funny. And Weird. Now it's gotten to the point where this is like, this is an issue, and now it's become a point of fight. And now it's actually kind of wearing on the relationship because I'm still so close to my stepbrother and I'm not gonna stop being close to him just because I told this story of when we were like kids.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

Let me pause you for just one second because you said that you will frequently go up to New York City and you will visit him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. On any of those trips, when you guys are just one on one with each other, you're hanging out in bars like best friends do or anything. There has never been anything physical whatsoever between the two.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

You guys know, I hundred percent guarantee, like nothing. Like I. And I wouldn't, I'm not the kind of person that would do that. Like, I would never, first of all, I wouldn't as an adult have anything physical with my stepbrother. Okay. And then second of all, I do really, really love my boyfriend. Like, we have a great relationship until this whole thing came up. And now it's just like wearing on me. And I don't want to sacrifice either relationship, but I need to convince him, which is why I sent an email to Tracy. I was like, I need to convince him, my boyfriend, that I'm not hooking up. Which is when she mentioned you guys have this lie detector, which at this point, like, I'm willing to do anything because now it's just getting out of hand. So I need to prove to him I'm not hooking up.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

I think he was threatened by your stepbrother before you ever told the story. Because I think for. And guys, correct me if I'm wrong, but like, if you're starting to date a girl and her best friend is a guy and in your mind you're like, okay, I know this is her stepbrother, but they're not related. Is there any. I mean, and she texts and calls all the time. Do you think there's anything to the fact that he may have been threatened already and then that she's closer to him than she is to the boyfriend? And then to tell this story on top of it.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

Nope. I think it happened once he saw that he really was a model in New York.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

He's a good looking dude.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

If you're a model, that's tough to work around for a guy. And if you're a model in New York City, that means you're in the top 1/2 of 1% of models. You know what I'm saying?

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

It sounds so ridiculous, Bethany, that if he was on the phone with us, if your boyfriend was on the phone, he wouldn't point to something else that happened after you were 11. There was no time in New York where he couldn't get in touch with you and you just happened to be with your stepbrother or some other detail. Cuz it sounds like a ridiculous psychological.

[Caller or Co-host 2]

I don't know, it does seem ridiculous.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

Sounds like this is too much. But I can't and I honestly cannot think of any other time when I would have misled him or given him cause to, you know, question me or my motives. Like I'm a faithful girlfriend, you know, but I'm also just having to be a really good friend to my stepbrother. So I think, well, you guys are

[Caller or Co-host 2]

siblings, you know, I mean, you know, we're getting hung up on the fact that you're not blood related. But if you guys have grown up together from what, 11 or when did your, when did your parents get married and when did you become step siblings?

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

Oh, let's see. We. The thing happened when we were 11, they probably got married probably about a year and a half to two years after that. And then we had like grown up and played together before that. So we had known each other for a while.

[Caller or Co-host 2]

So from let's say 13 on you guys are living in the same house as siblings. And I just think that, I just

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

think there's something more here like that. Like if we had him on the phone he would say, well she changes her tone when she talks about him

[Caller or Co-host 3]

or just need that because nobody sketches

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

out over an 11 year old kiss.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

No, she's going up to New York City every month to hang with a guy who's a model that she confesses her brother. That's fine.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

But I've had listeners that hooked up with their step siblings and young this

[Caller or Co-host 3]

only an issue once A dude once boyfriend saw what brother looked like. So here you are going up to New York City. I'm sure if he's a model in New York you're doing cool model things and going to cool model parties and hanging out with cool model people and dudes down here in Atlanta doing non model things, sitting around with average looking people, which I've done. And it's not fun. So I think that.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

I think you mean you do.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

I think from time to time when I'm feeling charitable.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

So if your scenario is right, he's the most insecure guy I've ever had in my life.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

Would that have made it. Is that going to make a difference? Like, if he wasn't a model and I had told him this story, you know, would he still be acting the same way? I don't think that, like, I don't know what the issue then gets down to.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

Hey, Jessica. Good morning. You're part of the Burt Show. Hi.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

Hi.

[Caller or Listener]

I was calling because it just sounds too hideous. You know, that's her brother she talks about. Even though it's her stepbrother. I go and visit him and all that. What's happened is I think it went a little further than that. And she just doesn't want to be open with it. And this is her way of trying to cover it up to shame on herself with the family and to shame on herself with her boyfriend.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

Wow, you have really picked this thing apart. What did she say in the course of the last three minutes for you to draw up that whole situation?

[Caller or Listener]

Well, the whole thing about it is she just constantly keeps saying she. You know, I have the means to go visit him, and the last thing I want to do is see my brother if he lives in another state. Stay over there.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

I mean, well, if he was good

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

looking, you might feel differently if he's New York now.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

I think you can let Jen attest to that. Because if you could, you would go visit your brother every weekend, wouldn't you? I mean, you would?

[Caller or Co-host 2]

Oh, absolutely, yeah. If I could, yeah. Same with my sibling. I mean, I tell my brother I love him on the phone and I just can't imagine my boyfriend being jealous of me saying I love you to my brother or talking to my brother or spending time with my brother.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

Like kissing your brother?

[Caller or Co-host 2]

Oh, gross.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

He was. He was threatened by him before that story, I think.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

I just don't think that there is anybody on earth that could be that insecure that because you had a kiss with somebody at 11 years old.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

I think it's more than that.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

There's something else going on. Hey, Lisa. Good morning. You're on Q100.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

Good morning. I'm thinking that he just.

[Caller or Listener]

He's just looking for a way out of the relationship. There's no way he could be jealous of a kiss at 11 years old.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

Did we already ask if he has any siblings? Your boyfriend, not your brother?

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

No, he doesn't.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

There you go.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

He's an only kid.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

He's an only child. He doesn't understand.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

And we talk about weird only kids.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

Yeah, we've talked about this before.

[Caller or Co-host 2]

He's real self involved, only children, centered.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

I don't Understand, like, Melissa has talked about her relationship with her siblings and Jen talked about how her and her brother sleep in the same sleeping bag during Christmas.

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[Caller or Co-host 3]

Yes.

[Caller or Co-host 2]

And I would be totally fine with that because he's my brother.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

Like the little, you know, shower together ceremony they do and all that stuff. I don't understand.

[Caller or Co-host 2]

The only, only child in the room.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

I don't understand that because I'm an only an only child. So I think, gee, can you tell if he's an. Stop talking when I am talking, please.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

You're full of crap.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

So all I'm saying is he doesn't understand the relationship because it is cool to see, like, you know, Jen with, with her brother and, and how excited she gets when he comes to town or when she gets to go visit him or when they're gonna be in Florida together. So he doesn't understand that. So he is totally weirded out by this girl telling another guy that she loves him. Going to visit him.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

She probably talks to him more than she talks to the boyfriend.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

Probably getting excited. Oh my God, I can't wait. Friday at 5:00', clock, gonna be on a plane to New York to see my brother. Like, he probably can't process that.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

Can guys really be that insecure? We're talking about her stepbrother here that she's going to visit. Yeah,

[Caller or Co-host 2]

he doesn't understand the relationship. Plus this story about them as kids,

[Caller or Co-host 1]

like, and, and I think it's more than just, hey, I think she talks to him all the time. She texts him all the time. She goes to see him all the time.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

And the boyfriend.

[Caller or Co-host 1]

Boyfriend is like, I don't understand why y' all are that close.

[Caller or Co-host 3]

And it's a newer relationship with the boyfriend. So when something great happens, when she gets a raise at work or, you know, survives the latest round of layoffs or whatever, the good news is that she has to share. She probably tells her brother at the same time or before she tells her boyfriend. That'll weird a guy out.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

I think it's a big old red flag if that's the case. I say dump him now because he's gonna have jealousy issues with dudes. Your entire relationship. Here's what we'll do. Bethany, what are you doing around 10:30 or 11:00 clock this morning?

[Caller or Co-host 3]

Talking to my brother.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

To talk to you guys. If you can help me out. Is important for me to get straightened out.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

Yeah, I'll call you with the, on the lie detector and we can straighten the whole thing out.

[Bethany (Caller with the story)]

All right. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it.

[Bethany (Host or Moderator)]

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