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Host (Jeff)
The Birch show we gotta talk to Tracy for a couple minutes about an issue that she has with her baby girl Ella, who I saw the twit pic you sent yesterday.
Co-host (Jessica)
I said, katie, look.
Caller Andrea
She goes, aw.
Host (Jeff)
And Tracy brings up a very good point because both Tracy and her husband are very intense, but in kind of two opposite ways. And if these two, if both of these personality traits manifest themselves in little merge into one in Ella, Ella could actually become a little tiny monster.
Caller Tracy
Yeah, we don't have this problem yet. And I'm really nervous about it because my husband has add, so he can't really focus on anything. He's very scattered. He takes medication for it, which helps a Lot, but without the medication, he's just all over the place. I, on the other hand, have been known to have a few OCD type tendencies.
Co-host (Jessica)
A few. I'm sorry, excuse me.
Host (Jeff)
Tracy is the producer of this show because she is beyond organized, right? And I've actually. She has, like, one of her OCD things is, like, she has to write stuff down, even if it doesn't involve her or have anything to do. Like, she puts it on a list in a book somewhere. I've had to yell at her before.
Caller Tracy
Jeff is like, I'm gonna go to the kitchen to the vending machine, and I'm writing down kitchen vending machine on a notepad.
Caller Brittany
But one of your favorite stores is the Container Store, so.
Host (Jeff)
Yes, that's true.
Caller Tracy
And I'm so uber organized. But I also get very obsessed with everything being perfect. So my fear is, is if she gets his ADD and my ocd, oh, my gosh. She's gonna be obsessed with being perfect, but not be able to focus long enough to make it happen, and she's gonna go crazy.
Co-host (Jessica)
Let me ask a question now, which would you. Because we talked about off here for a second, and I said that with children, it's either you mimic your parents or sometimes you go opposite of your parents. Like, you decide that you're going to rebel against that type of behavior. So which would you rather have? I wanted to be OCD and perfectionist, or would you rather her be a slob in reaction to you and Scott?
Host (Jeff)
Or the exact opposite? What if she doesn't have add? What if she's super focused, but she decides to be super focused on being messy? You would have to give her away. You would have to put any child on. You need a sloppy room.
Co-host (Jessica)
She spills things. She doesn't care. She argues with you. I mean, you know about it.
Caller Jen
I think mommy will wait on her hand and foot and clean up after
Host (Jeff)
her because you have OCD about cleanliness
Caller Tracy
and nothing's gonna be clean enough for me. I understand that. I don't know what I'd rather her have because it's. I mean, it's frustrating for both of us. While I love everything to be perfect and orderly, it drives me crazy that I'm like that. I'm just not willing to stop being like that because then that would mean nothing is orderly.
Host (Jeff)
So the question this made me think about is there. There has to be parents. And our Phone number is 404-741-Q100. Who you are aware of something that you do. Like everybody says, oh, my God, I sound just like my mother. You know, at some point, or father or whatever, you have got to have something in your life, something that you do. Whether it's an OCD tendency that your laundry has to be folded in the exact certain way, or an add thing where you start 100 projects and you can't finish them, or anything in between. That something that you do that you are so hard trying to prevent from being passed down to your child or
Co-host (Jessica)
even a short temper or even sarcasm or cursing. Cursing I think is a common thing with parents. But you know, I would think that, yeah, any behavior that you are self conscious about that you don't want your child to inherit, what are you keeping from them or trying to at least.
Host (Jeff)
Or can you Like I am a bad, I would say husband to Jessica, but I think I'm just a bad roommate because I have a tendency to think that just because an article of clothing is folded somewhat neat, then that is put away enough. Even if it's on the arm of a couch or the edge of a
Caller Jen
bed, that drives me crazy.
Host (Jeff)
So, like I'll come home and I'll take like, you know, I'll take the shirt off and I'll just fold it in half, but I'll put it on the edge of the bed. In my mind, it's away, it's away, it's folded in half and it's on the edge of the bed. Right, Right. So knowing how crazy that drives Jessica. If we had children in our house, I would try not to do that. I would try to avoid that. Hey, Julia. Welcome to the bird show.
Caller Marla
Hi. Hey.
Host (Jeff)
What's going on?
Caller Marla
I was listening and I was just thinking, wow, that's a topic. That's me. Because my mom has an issue with a short temper and she was also a pack rat. And I have a two year old and it seems like nothing can be thrown away. I don't care if it's the toy that's been broken, he can't throw it away. And the temper, he's already caught the short temper too. These little things make him mad.
Host (Jeff)
And are you a pack rat?
Caller Marla
I am. I try so hard to throw everything away, but it gets to the point where it's so much stuff where I don't even look through it, I just have to throw it away. But it's so hard. Cause I was so used to her keeping everything from notes to unnecessary stuff
Host (Jeff)
that right there is a curse. And you know what? That's what I would. Because my parents do the same thing. I told you all about the tv, right? And that ended up. A cousin of mine ended up taking it. But I got my parents a new tv. And my dad, I said, just go put the TV in the car and take it to a church or Goodwill and donate the old one. And he goes, nah, just put it in the basement. So I go down and put it in the basement next to the boat engine. They don't live on a lake.
Co-host (Jessica)
They may need it someday.
Caller Jen
Someday.
Host (Jeff)
Behind the dresser, on the shelf beneath my dad's beer can collection pack rats. So am I. And it drives me nuts. And I'm trying so hard to break that habit. I would not want to give that curse to a child.
Caller Brittany
Well, it's all learned behavior. You're going to mimic exactly what your parents do.
Caller Tracy
No, we're not.
Host (Jeff)
We're changing it. Wendy. Hey, Brittany.
Co-host (Jessica)
Welcome to the show Breaking the Cycle.
Host (Jeff)
What's going on?
Caller Wendy
I am super, super OCD about everything. And my 4 year old already acts just like me. If I put his shoes on and he didn't get to do it, he has to take them off and then put them back on because I did it. And like, I'll even. I'll turn off a light and he'll scream at me and go and turn it back on and then turn it back off and then turn it back on because I did it.
Caller Tracy
Is that an ocd, OCD thing or is that more of a, you know, young kid? I want to do everything myself.
Caller Brittany
Being independent.
Caller Wendy
Yeah. No, I mean, it's. It's not normal. He's definitely not normal. It's like I have to do everything my own personal way. Like it has to be done exactly the way it has to be done. And he is just like that. I mean, it's not like a normal four year old behavior. He's been doing it since he was
Caller Marla
like two years old.
Caller Wendy
It's. I mean, he has to do it just the way it has to be done. It has to be done several times before he's happy with it.
Caller Jen
It's kind of crippling for kids once they have to change schools and stuff because they get so used to routine and repetition and patterns of behavior that, you know, when they go from like maybe pre K to a different school for kindergartner or, you know, elementary to middle or whatever, it's gonna be freaky.
Host (Jeff)
And I do think there's two different. I mean, OCD is a loosely used term, but isn't like, OCD is a medical term where, like, some people have like the chemical in their brain.
Caller Jen
Sounds like she and her son are that way.
Host (Jeff)
Right.
Caller Jen
It's like Tracy's a perfectionist.
Caller Tracy
Yeah, I don't think. I mean, I don't think I actually have ocd, like the condition. I just think I like things to be perfect. But it was just like that one guy.
Caller Jen
So her husband really has add? Or he's just creative.
Caller Tracy
He's creative, but he definitely has add.
Host (Jeff)
And she can diagnose that because she has ocd.
Caller Jen
Because sometimes I think that creative people are deemed ADD because their thought process is different. They're not linear thinkers, you know?
Caller Tracy
Yeah. But I can tell a definite difference when he doesn't have as much medication. Like if he's out of a prescription, I can definitely tell. Like he just can't focus on anything. He's all over the place. Like his legs are like all. You know, he's tapping his leg the whole time. Nothing gets done.
Host (Jeff)
You come home and there's a half built dresser, there's a half painted room, there's a half clean kitchen, there's a half eaten sandwich.
Caller Tracy
Right. But once he has those. That medication, he's pretty. I mean, it works.
Co-host (Jessica)
And with ocd, isn't it? You know, people who really have OCD are the ones that always have to count their steps, or they always have to. Everything has to be in.
Host (Jeff)
That's how Lindsay was, like, from our show. She was pretty intense about stuff like that.
Co-host (Jessica)
She had a bad thought. Yeah, With Lindsay, there was. It wasn't. When she had a bad thought, she'd
Host (Jeff)
have to touch her face.
Co-host (Jessica)
Touch her face. Yeah.
Host (Jeff)
Hey, is it Marla?
Caller Marla
Marala, It's Marla.
Host (Jeff)
Marla. Hey, how are you?
Caller Wendy
Hi.
Caller Marla
I'm good. I'm sorry, y', all, I have a very bad cold.
Host (Jeff)
Oh, that's no worries.
Co-host (Jessica)
Everybody talk to Jen. You all can understand each other.
Host (Jeff)
Yeah, everybody knows each other. I love your show.
Caller Lindsay
You guys make me laugh every morning.
Co-host (Jessica)
Thank you.
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Caller Marla
Let's see. I have a couple of ocd, but
Caller Lindsay
my kids actually get it from both sides. The pack rat thing. Number one, My mom has taxes in our attic. Probably from the late 80s.
Caller Andrea
Yeah, it's really sad.
Caller Lindsay
And every closet in our house is full. Yeah, it's a really bad situation. But the one that I just thought of, that I didn't tell the girl on the phone was especially like, when I'm cooking, if it's raw chicken, I have to trim that piece of chicken to within an inch of its life. I mean, every little tiny scrap of white that I can see on that piece of chicken is gone. It's really intense. But my kids are funny. They're like, mama, you're having a moment. You know, you need to calm down.
Co-host (Jessica)
See, that's what I vision. I vision Ella being in the future. Like, mom. It's okay, Mom. It's okay, Mom. Doesn't have to be perfect. Mom.
Host (Jeff)
Hey, is it Andrea or the more formal Andrea?
Caller Andrea
Andrea.
Host (Jeff)
Hey, Andrea. How are you?
Caller Andrea
Great.
Host (Jeff)
How are you guys?
Caller Tracy
Good.
Host (Jeff)
A word of warning for Tracy.
Caller Andrea
Yes. Well, first I just want to say,
Caller Marla
I know everybody says this, but I'm
Caller Andrea
so freaked out that I get to talk to you.
Caller Wendy
I listen to y' all every day. Oh, cool. Thank you.
Caller Andrea
And if anybody I know hears this, I'll just die. But anyway, they'll know it's me. But my first thing is I'm kind of ocd. But mine is like a time. Everything has to be on a certain time schedule. And I kind of flip my lid if my kids don't adhere to it. And I've got three boys. But what I want to tell her is with my first son, the mistake I made was I'm a little bit of a perfectionist. Like, everything has to be perfect. And so I kind of did everything for him. Like, everything. I mean, dressed him, got him, you know, just did everything for him. He didn't. If I could wrap him up in, like, a bubble, I would have. But now he's 11 and he's like the laziest child that ever walked the earth. He can't do anything. He would lay in bed and, like, wait for someone to bring him socks.
Host (Jeff)
Ella Grace will not be a lazy child.
Caller Tracy
Oh, no, she will not. And she's not already.
Host (Jeff)
Ella Grace is already doing. Ella is already doing chores at the house, and she's doing them properly. The dishes are stacked biggest to smallest, and she knows how to alphabetize soup. Good job, Tracy.
Caller Tracy
And she can use Microsoft Excel.
Host (Jeff)
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Podcast: The Bert Show
Episode: Vault: She's Worried Her Baby Will Inherit Their Traits
Date: July 2, 2026
In this heartfelt and humorous episode, the Bert Show team explores a parental anxiety many can relate to: Will your child inherit your quirks, habits, or even your personal “curses”? Tracy, a show producer, calls in with her concerns about her baby girl, Ella, potentially inheriting both her own OCD-like tendencies and her husband’s ADD. The discussion unravels into a lively, honest, and funny exchange among hosts and listeners about the traits we pass on, the cycles we hope to break, and the realities of parenting when our own quirks are on full display.
[06:06] Marla calls in to share her own inherited challenges:
Jeff [07:15]: Shares his own family’s inability to throw things away, illustrating how these habits can be deeply ingrained.
[07:38] Wendy joins the conversation revealing her extreme OCD and observing the same compulsions in her four-year-old son.
The hosts and callers debate what’s typical independent kid behavior versus identifying true OCD.
[11:09] Lindsay calls in with a humorous OCD anecdote about her need to trim raw chicken “to within an inch of its life.”
[11:23] Andrea shares a cautionary tale: her perfectionism led her to do everything for her eldest son, and now he’s “the laziest child that ever walked the earth.”
Tracy assures Ella is not headed that direction—she’s already got chores and organization skills.
The episode is fast-paced, self-deprecating, and honest about the sometimes hilarious, sometimes embarrassing realities of parenting and family life. The hosts and callers create a supportive, humorous atmosphere that gives permission to laugh at your own quirks while making a case for self-reflection and trying (however imperfectly) to break the cycles you don’t want your kids to repeat.
If you worry your child might inherit your quirks, this episode is relatable, reassuring, and guaranteed to make you laugh. The Bert Show’s blend of confessional stories, lively banter, and community calls make for a memorable listen—perfect for anyone navigating the crazy world of parenting with a sense of humor.
“If she gets his ADD and my OCD, oh my gosh. She’s going to be obsessed with being perfect, but not be able to focus long enough to make it happen, and she’s going to go crazy.”
—Tracy [03:02]