Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (1:55)

I think that she confessed to her mom and when her mom told her it's really none of her business, she got mad at her mom for not being as dramatic as her how about you Hobby?

Panelist 1 (2:06)

That's an extended prediction. I'm I'M thinking that she definitely told her parents, but not the roommate's parents.

Panelist 2 (2:13)

Jeffrey, I think she pulled it off without a hitch.

Host (Birch Show) (2:16)

The roommate?

Panelist 2 (2:17)

The roommate pulled it off. Oh, you're asking what the girl did? I think she didn't say a word. And I think the roommate pulled it off without a hitch.

Host (Birch Show) (2:24)

I'm going with she talked to her parents, her own parents about it. Also, she didn't have the guts to go to the roommate's parents, but I think she probably went to her own parents. Shall we find out?

Panelist 2 (2:35)

Let's find out together, will we?

Host (Birch Show) (2:37)

Hey, Holly, you're back on the voice disguiser.

Holly (Caller) (2:39)

Good morning.

Chris (2:40)

Hello.

Host (Birch Show) (2:40)

Good morning. How are you?

Holly (Caller) (2:42)

I'm good. How are you?

Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (2:45)

Well, congratulations on graduation.

Holly (Caller) (2:46)

Thank you. It's official.

Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (2:48)

Yes.

Host (Birch Show) (2:48)

Does that feel good? Yeah, I bet.

Holly (Caller) (2:51)

So glad to be dawn good at senioritis.

Host (Birch Show) (2:54)

And how about your roommate? Did she graduate this weekend? Quote unquote?

Holly (Caller) (2:59)

She did not graduate this weekend.

Host (Birch Show) (3:01)

Not.

Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (3:01)

How did that come about?

Holly (Caller) (3:03)

Um, well, I did. After our conversation, I did take into account what you guys said, and I. I stayed out of it and I did not say anything. I didn't call my parents.

Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (3:14)

Okay.

Holly (Caller) (3:15)

Didn't tell anybody. I just figured that, you know, something would have to happen when she got there, and I was just gonna let it be there, you know, their deal. So our parents drove up together. We all went out to breakfast. At breakfast, thankfully, she says that she has something to tell them. That she knows that they're going to be upset and angry and that she's sorry that she didn't tell them, but she wanted them to know in person. So I'm thinking at this point, this is such a load off. Like, she's finally going to come out with this. It's going to get done. It was early in the morning. The day would still go on. And she comes out with yet another lie of a long story, saying that the reason why she's not graduating that day is because she didn't notify the school in time and she missed the deadline to get her cap and gown so that she wasn't able to walk, but that she would get her diploma in the mail. Nothing about not being in school for three semesters, Nothing about anything. Like a complete. Another huge story.

Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (4:22)

So what are her parents react?

Holly (Caller) (4:26)

Well, obviously they were, you know, a little upset, but they, you know, more disappointed that, you know, she'd been irresponsible and missed this little deadline. But nothing, nothing big. And of course she said, you know, oh, well, we'll all watch. They would watch me graduate, and she would sit with them, and, you know, it was okay that she wasn't going to walk, and she was starting. They were, like, you know, kind of upset. But, I mean, it was nothing. Nothing of what it should have been or would have been. And they still have no idea. They're gonna be sitting, waiting for the diploma in the mail.

Host (Birch Show) (4:57)

So you're on this emotional rollercoaster all weekend because you're like, you know what? I'm just gonna take the high road. It doesn't matter. This is all gonna pan out the way it's gonna pan out. And then you actually think, you know what? She's gonna come clean. Good for her. This is the way I wanted it to happen. And then she actually piles onto the lie and comes out looking better now than she did originally. And that must have annoyed you all weekend.

Holly (Caller) (5:19)

Well, yeah. I mean, until we started partying. But it did annoy me during the graduation part. I mean, it was just absolutely ridiculous.

Panelist 1 (5:29)

Did you feel like telling your parents the truth?

Holly (Caller) (5:32)

You know what? No. At that point, like, it had been so past the point of frustration, and I really wanted to enjoy my graduation. I really was, you know, so happy to see my family that at that point, like, I just. It was almost just like, Patty. I just. I can't even deal with it, you know?

Panelist 1 (5:50)

You didn't want it to be about her anymore.

Holly (Caller) (5:51)

Well, now I don't have to live with her anymore. I don't even want to be her anymore. Like, it's just so disgusting that she can be so good at lying.

Host (Birch Show) (5:58)

I'm wondering if there's anybody listening right now that never graduated from college, but your parents think you did.

Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (6:04)

Oh, I'm sure.

Host (Birch Show) (6:05)

Because she may be able to go her entire life and her parents would really never find out. I think there are some parents that want to see the diploma. The diploma. And want to see cap and gown and all that. And I think that there are others that would just let it go.

Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (6:18)

Well, like, for instance, I. In one of my many moves here in Atlanta, I lost my diploma. So I have to go back to UT and at some point, when I think about it and get it reissued to me. So I did graduate, but I don't have a diploma. It's very. I mean, it. There is no. Most people don't have their diplomas hosted on an office unless you're in that. You have to show it. Yeah, exactly.

Host (Birch Show) (6:40)

Did we ask you this? Was your roommate being funded by her own parents for the last. She was. So all that. Where's that money been going.

Holly (Caller) (6:49)

I don't have any idea.

Chris (6:51)

Oh,

Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (6:54)

but not your problem. Just like we said last week. And now really not your problem. Because it's like you said, you don't have to stare at it anymore.

Holly (Caller) (7:04)

Yeah. Now it's done. I mean, there's, you know, a part of me that really. Yeah. Was angry, like you guys said, like I am. That, you know, she had all this extra money and she wasn't doing anything for it and all of those things.

Host (Birch Show) (7:19)

Yeah. I could see how that could bug you. I mean, you're struggling along here, trying to pinch pennies to graduate, and here you've got somebody in your own house that's wasting the money, not using it on what. What they should be using it on while you struggle. I can understand why you built some animosity there, but, you know, in the

Panelist 1 (7:35)

long run, that you have the benefit,

Panelist 2 (7:38)

you have the diploma.

Holly (Caller) (7:39)

Yeah, I know. I know. And it was worth all the hard work. I just. I don't even think that I really, like, until we talked about it the other day, I don't think I realized, like, exactly why I was upset or how upset or any of those things,

Host (Birch Show) (7:53)

you know, here's Chris, to use a word on the show that we don't use often, and it's called maturity.

Chris (7:58)

Maturity. I'm extremely impressed with the fact that she actually grew up this weekend. Realize that, you know, if someone gets away with something and it doesn't hurt you, it's really not your problem.

Host (Birch Show) (8:09)

Right.

Chris (8:09)

And I just. I was thinking the entire time when we were talking, when you guys were talking about this last week, I'm like, you know, she just is pissed off because this girl's getting away with something and she doesn't like it. And, you know, it's really not that big of a deal. She has to deal with those consequences. It's not Holly's problem at all.

Host (Birch Show) (8:26)

You're right. But it certainly is legit to have those kind of feelings.

Chris (8:30)

Sure, sure. I can understand having those. We've all had them. But, you know, it's a sign of maturity to actually realize that, you know, it's not your problem. Deal with it, move on. So I just want to say congratulations. You graduated from college. That's a big step. And, you know, you grew up a little this weekend, so I'm impressed.

Holly (Caller) (8:48)

Thank you. I don't know. I felt more like it was a moral responsibility, though, too.

Panelist 2 (8:54)

Oh, that's justification.

Host (Birch Show) (8:55)

Yeah. That probably.

Chris (8:56)

That's you.

Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (8:57)

Yeah.

Holly (Caller) (8:58)

Like, I mean, if, you know, somebody's cheating on Somebody like, don't tell them. Yeah, it's not your business. But at the same time, like, where is, I don't know where all of those lines are yet. Maybe I'm just not, you know, mature enough to understand yet what I should stay out of and what, where I'm supposed to step in.

Host (Birch Show) (9:15)

If you weren't so close to it, that's probably a pretty good argument. But you were so close to it that had you narcked on her and used the well, is it responsible for me just to let this go argument, I don't think many would have bought it. So I think you did the right thing.

Panelist 1 (9:30)

I think it would have probably been more important for her to intervene if she was duping the school somehow rather than duping her parents. You know what I'm saying? If she was actually getting a diploma without doing the work.

Host (Birch Show) (9:42)

Uh huh.

Panelist 1 (9:43)

That to me would have been a more of a moral issue than the telling the parents.

Host (Birch Show) (9:47)

Yeah, I think you handled it great and it's over. I mean, you can wash your hands of it. You'll lose your roommate, you'll never see her again. So who cares?

Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (9:53)

Yeah.

Host (Birch Show) (9:53)

And you got your diploma.

Co-host (Atlanta Two Day Walk for Breast Cancer) (9:54)

You got your diploma. That's what the highlight of the weekend has to be, needs to be. And all you remember about it definitely is.

Holly (Caller) (10:00)

I'm so happy. Can you tell us what school it was now?

Host (Birch Show) (10:04)

Don't do it.

Holly (Caller) (10:05)

No, don't do it.

Host (Birch Show) (10:06)

Don't do it.

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