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Tracy
Yes, adorable.
Bretzky
Tracy has come in here seeking parenting advice. And we can people who have no
Katie Jo
kids in the room, right?
Bretzky
No, but we all have dogs and we've had dogs longer than she's had kids.
Melissa
Do not. Do not. Do not.
Bretzky
What's wrong with you? So, Tracy, we are here to help. How can we do it? Just rub her nose in it.
Tracy
Well, here's the thing. I'm kind of worried because in most parenting situations you've got one person. Like it's usually the dad, I think, but it's like one parent that's a little bit tougher. You know, that can the disciplinarian yes, the disciplinarian. Or the one that, like, you know, we talked about how I was having a hard time getting her to sleep. Jeff, I think you were out. But, you know, because we constantly race in, like when she's crying. And in most situations, typically, I think it's the husband in the situation is the strong one that can say no, hold out. You know, we're going to wait three minutes and let her cry. But in our situation, I am way too soft, and Scott is just as soft as I am when it comes to everything, and I can't seem to change myself. So I keep hoping he's gonna step up and be the tough guy.
Melissa
That's not happening either.
Bretzky
No, you didn't marry the tough guy.
Tracy
Every little thing. I mean, if she's, you know, if she doesn't want to eat her food, we're like, okay, well, she's uncle. You know, she doesn't like it, we're not gonna make her eat it. You know, if she cries. Because I mean this, I kid you not. We watch the baby monitor, and if we're sitting in the living room and she even so much as squirms, we both bolt to her bedroom, which is like, you know, 20ft away. And we're there within one second to make sure that she's okay because we don't want her to be the slightest bit upset.
Bretzky
You know, it's not a problem right now. You know, it's not gonna be a problem for, like, six more months.
Melissa
Why do you say that?
Bretzky
Because right now, everything's cool. She's just hanging out. You guys are home all the time. You know, you're still feeding her. So Tracy has to be around every few hours. Like, there's a need for them to be there.
Melissa
And she's seven months now.
Tracy
She'll be seven months on the 30th.
Bretzky
So six months from now, when she'll be walking. Yeah. And there's less of a need for you guys to both be there. And maybe you want to go out on a date night. That kid is gonna lose its mind the minute you guys put one foot on the porch together.
Tracy
Well, that's the other problem, too, is you would think. Cause we've also talked about how I have a hard time leaving her, even for 30 minutes at a time, just to go out. I mean, and I did it one time. And the entire time, Scott and I talked about her for the entire 60 minutes that we managed to be out
Bretzky
of the house from her, there's only been One time that you and Scott have been alone together in the seven months since Ella's been born?
Tracy
Yes.
Katie Jo
And you talked about Ella the whole time.
Tracy
Oh, my Lord. And you would think that. I mean, I'm always looking to him to be the one to say, no, we can do this. We really need to do this. We're gonna call your parents, and we're gonna go out, and we're gonna leave her there, make it through the three hours. But he's worse than I am.
Melissa
He is.
Tracy
Yes.
Melissa
So he's like, I don't want to leave her either.
Tracy
He has a harder time with it than I do.
Melissa
Oh, wow.
Tracy
I mean, I've tried. We've talked about the doing the crying it out thing to get her to sleep. And I've tried, like, I look to him to, like, you know, hold me up and, you know, stand by me, you know, talk me through this.
Bretzky
And that's where the crying to sleep thing is, where you just chill out for five minutes and see.
Tracy
Let him cry for a few minutes, and then you go in and you check on him and let him cry for a little bit longer, and you go in and check on him or check on her. But he's worse than I am. He's like. He's coming up with all these different reasons as to why we shouldn't do it. And I'm like, no, you can't talk me out of this. I need you to be tough here.
Katie Jo
Do you think that once she is needing to be disciplined in the future,
Tracy
that she already knows that she has us wrapped around her finger? She's already getting to the point where she's manipulative, and right now we just think it's the cutest thing ever. But I know a year from now, it's gonna be a problem.
Bretzky
I said to Tracy a couple months ago, she was like, yeah, we've only been out on one date thing or whatever. And I said, you know, if you ever want to go, Jessica loves babies. Jessica will be over there in a heartbeat. She'll be over there for 30 minutes or three hours. Whatever you need. Totally. You know? And Tracy looked at me like I was speaking Korean. She's like, what? You want me to go where without my baby? Whatever.
Tracy
I know. And I don't know if it's because I'm a new mom and this is eventually gonna wear off or this is just our parenting style, and we need to be tough on ourselves, because I think it's going to be an issue, and I can't seem to break It.
Bretzky
Hey, Whitney, welcome to the show.
Andrea
Hey, how are you?
Bretzky
Good, how are you?
Andrea
I am good. I just wanted to tell Tracy I have two kids. I'm actually still buying diapers right now. But if you don't start disciplining her now and making her do things that right now she doesn't like, that she's going to be the five year old screaming, pitching, temper tantrums and hitting you later on in life because the earlier you start, they just kind of mold.
Melissa
How do you discipline a seven month old though? It's not, I don't really understand that.
Katie Jo
Are you talking about like when, when Ella doesn't want to take food? I mean like.
Andrea
Yeah, you just keep on trying it.
Bretzky
Or the crying it out thing.
Andrea
Like right now, you give her five minutes. You go and you check on her, you rub her back, pacifier, try the bottle, only try for about a minute or two. Rub her back, walk out, give her five more minutes. She will learn. It is a tough couple of months. Trust me, it will be tough. But once you do it, it's no problem. They become more independent. You will be able to lay her down at her bedtime, walk away and she'll go to sleep on her own.
Melissa
And then it'll be through the night.
Andrea
And it'll be through the night. It takes a few months and once she starts teasing, then all bets are off.
Tracy
Yes.
Melissa
How long, how old should it be when they start sleeping through the night?
Andrea
Mine started. One of them started at four weeks and the other one started at about, I want to say like 9 or
Katie Jo
10 because I nod like I know what everybody's talking about. But when it comes to parenting thing, I have no freaking idea.
Tracy
Every baby's different. Ella was sleeping through the night at three weeks old, but then a month later she wasn't.
Bretzky
So it just because she realized she could get a back rub. I'd wake up at 2am if I knew.
Melissa
Massage every night. You'd get up for that?
Tracy
You do.
Katie Jo
You get a head rub every night, don't you?
Bretzky
Yeah, but if I knew that if I Woke up at 2 in the
Katie Jo
morning, I always have to bring that up.
Bretzky
Yeah. If I Woke up at 2 in the morning and knew that if I just went hey and somebody would come in and rub my back, I would wake up every night.
Tracy
It's worse than that. She doesn't even have to say hey. She just has to roll over and we're like, oh, she's awake and she's lonely. We've got to go in there.
Andrea
Lonely.
Melissa
Oh, no, no, it's gonna be problem. Well, you know what? I'm proud of you for admitting it. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of crazy new parent behavior, but at least you're willing to open yourself up and admit it.
Katie Jo
You are. I do think it's a first time parent thing.
Tracy
I'm a horrible because I'm too attentive.
Melissa
Like you're over the top into your kid.
Bretzky
You're gonna be the parent who. I was at Target the other day and there was, I don't know how far away from me this child was, but it was screaming at its mom and I don't know what it wanted, but it was screaming, buy this for me. You have to buy this for me.
Katie Jo
So then you felt sympathetic to that Walmart guy screaming.
Bretzky
I actually understood why. The Walmart dude.
Katie Jo
Yeah, that dude slapped the kid, elbowed the kid.
Bretzky
Yeah.
Melissa
No, I don't think you guys will be those kind of parents.
Tracy
Yeah, I don't think we will.
Bretzky
Because you'll never take your child out of the house.
Melissa
No, I think they will, but I don't think that they will want to have an impolite child because you guys are both very like manner conscious and polite people. So your daughter will follow suit with that.
Tracy
Yeah, I mean, I think when she starts like when she gets the nasty behavior, like if she's acting bratty, I think I'd have a problem with it, but.
Melissa
Or the no. Or the hitting you. That's really fun. When they go through that phase, when my goddaughter went through that phase, when she would hit her mother in the face.
Tracy
What phase is that? How old?
Melissa
I want to say like I can't remember. Maybe like 14 months. Ish or something.
Bretzky
It was like,
Melissa
no, Mommy, that's not what I want.
Bretzky
Oh, can you be 100% sure? Mommy didn't deserve it. Hey, Tisa, welcome to the show.
Andrea
Hey. I was exactly at the same point you are, Tracy. And I had a seven month old little boy and I thought I was beside myself, I was so tired. And I had a very old school pediatrician and he said he totally set me free. He said, I have never in all my years a patient die of crying. And from that point on I let my son cry and we slept and he's 11 and he's alive.
Tracy
Yeah, I don't think I'm afraid that she's going to die. If I don't race into her room or if I don't, that's discomfort. I just don't.
Bretzky
I'm sorry.
Katie Jo
You Want her to feel unloved.
Tracy
Yes. And I'm so afraid there's gonna be some type of like psychological consequence because she didn't get my love for two minutes or something, you know, like it's gonna resurface 30 years from now and she's gonna have issues.
Melissa
But at some point, either you or Scott will have to step up and be the tough one.
Tracy
I want it to be him, but he won't.
Melissa
Have you told him that?
Tracy
Yes.
Bretzky
Hey, Andrea. Or is it Andrea or Andre Drea?
Andrea
Andrea.
Katie Jo
Andrea. Normally the non pretentious one. Yes.
Andrea
Right. I wanted to ask Tracy, did her and her husband talk about parenting styles before Ella Grace got here? Because I have a 10 month old son and my husband was always like, I know that you're going to be the one spanking him in Walmart or putting him in timeout and I'm going to be the one running behind you. And so I was just curious about that.
Tracy
Yeah, I mean, we talked about it in the sense that like, we know that neither one of us are spankers, you know, that we're more, we're going to be more timeout people and stuff like that. And we've talked about it like, you know, watching Super Nanny and wondering, oh God, how did the parents let it get that bad? But now that I'm a parent, I know exactly how they let it get that bad.
Bretzky
Because your child is perfect and there's no reason to discipline them or not run to their every need because they're so helpless right now.
Tracy
So I just need you guys to tell Scott to toughen up.
Bretzky
Okay, Well, I actually have, I have an idea. I think you guys both need tough love, you know, So I think, I
Tracy
mean, we're going to swap and I'm going to take Sasha for a week.
Bretzky
No, it doesn't have to be that extreme. But I think you need to sometime in the next week or so, next seven days or, you know, we might have to extend it. Cause we do have a health issue here. But Melissa has been doing a lot of baby talk. Katie Jo loves babies. Tracy, you live walking distance to some great restaurants. I think at some point Melissa and Katie Jo come to your house at dinner.
Katie Jo
I'd be happy to do that.
Bretzky
They'll bring a pizza, they'll sit in the house once I'm well with Ella, eat their pizza. And you and Scott have to leave the house for one hour. No phone call, no check in one hour.
Tracy
Oh, I don't know.
Melissa
And the topic of Ella Grace is off of the table.
Bretzky
No, that won't happen. There's zero chance of that happening. Baby steps.
Melissa
Baby steps.
Katie Jo
There is an open invitation that Katie and I will babysit Ella for one hour while y' all go to dinner.
Bretzky
It's one hour. It doesn't even have to be dinner. You walk down, you have a glass of wine and get an ice cream cone. Done. You're back.
Tracy
We'll talk about it.
Bretzky
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Date: June 11, 2026
Episode Theme:
This episode dives into the real parenting dilemmas faced by Tracy, a new mom, and her husband Scott, as they navigate their admitted softness and anxieties around discipline with their seven-month-old daughter, Ella Grace. The cast provides honest, humorous, and supportive commentary, and listeners call in to share practical advice and solidarity over the early stages of parenting and the fear of becoming disciplinarians.
The conversation balances vulnerability and humor, capturing the authentic anxieties of new parenting while showcasing the cast’s signature witty banter. Tracy’s heartfelt confessions are met with empathy, light teasing, and actionable advice, both from the show’s cast and from listener call-ins.
This episode offers a candid, often comedic look at early parenthood’s challenges, centering on new mom Tracy’s admission that her baby “runs the house” due to both parents’ inability to set boundaries. Through supportive group banter and real advice from listeners, the show explores the delicate balance between offering love and establishing independence and discipline in children. The episode closes with the cast encouraging baby steps for the parents—setting up a trial date night sans baby, with plenty of laughter and understanding.