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The Bird Show There's a story it came out last week and I don't think Melissa. Melissa didn't talk about it. Cause it was. The story would have been reported on a Friday. And some things you just shouldn't think about all weekend.
Melissa
Yeah, I mean. Cause especially on a Fridays I just run out of time because we do the good news at the end of the day. So I just, I thought this was. Didn't qualify as a good news story but Jeff did.
Cass
Yeah, that's how I said it. When I got the news bulletin or whatever, I forwarded it to Melissa and said for good news, Cass, there is a story the city is about 75 miles from Atlanta. Do you remember what town it was? It's a suburb.
Melissa
I do not.
Cass
Okay, it's suburb of Atlanta. Well, anyways, this kid goes to school and he tells his teacher that he told his mom about a bad grade that he had got.
Jeff
He had gotten lots of bad grades.
Cass
Yeah, it was either his report card or a paper or something. But whatever this bad grade was that he told his mom about, as he explained to his teacher, she got really mad.
Melissa
Mom did.
Cass
Mom got really mad and made him do something very bad. Made him kill one of his pets.
Jeff
So he told this story to the teacher.
Cass
To the teacher.
Melissa
He reported it to the teacher that his mom. It was a hamster, and he was supposed to use a hammer, and he was supposed to get rid of the hamster as a punishment for having bad grades.
Cass
So that was the story. And so your first thought is, oh, my God. And you know, Bert has this theory that he always throws out. Mathematically, there's the worst of something. You know what I mean? There's the worst truck driver. There's the worst news reporter. There's the worst police officer. You can't find a worse parent than this. This is the worst parent in the books of parenting. All of them.
Jeff
Unbelievable.
Cass
Like, you make your child so, you know, it's shocking, revolting, everything. I read something over the weekend that this woman is, you know, like the president of the pta, really well liked. All this other stuff.
Melissa
She's in jail.
Cass
She's in jail right now for this. Obviously arrested for this. I read something this weekend that the kid has a little bit of a lying problem.
Jeff
A little bit of a lying problem or a lot of. Bit of a lying problem?
Cass
Well, enough lying problem that there are. Some of her friends are coming out saying, this is not. Why is she in jail. How come everybody's taking the word of the kid like, this is not. This could be. The kid could be having a disciplinary meltdown. He's a bad kid. He gets bad grades. He gets in trouble at school all the time. I think I read that she has more than one kid. Could you imagine if you did something as a child that resulted in your parent. Now, I'm assuming that she didn't do it, because if she did do it, then she's a horrible person, and that's awful, and you don't deserve your kids and blah.
Melissa
But for the sake of this argument,
Cass
for the sake of this argument, she
Melissa
did not do it.
Cass
Imagine if you did something as a child that resulted in your mom or dad Spending the weekend in jail falsely. Yes.
Jeff
Like you told a lie that resulted in your mom or dad going to jail.
Cass
Yeah, I don't even.
Jeff
You know what, like, made up the story. Telling a tall tale. Trying to, like, be a brat and be defensive and is like, oh, mom's gonna make me be in trouble. Watch this. And then she ends up in prison.
Melissa
Yeah, I'd end up in a grave if I did that to my parents. I'd want to stay in jail. No, mom better stay in jail because I don't want that kind of beating.
Cass
And I don't. It doesn't have to. I mean, the made up thing makes it worse. But even. What if you were a kid? Cause you know, there's some things that, like, the parents get in trouble for. Like, I know some states passed a law that if the kid misses so much school, they can actually arrest the parent type of thing. It's like, what even if you didn't make it up, what if you just did something that resulted in your mom or dad being arrested?
Jeff
No, no, no. I would not cede to live the next day.
Melissa
Yeah, that's just the definition of red right there.
Cass
I would say, yeah, keep them in there because that.
Melissa
No, yeah, no, I don't want to see them afterwards.
Jeff
Unbelievable.
Cass
Yeah. And you know that there are, you know, if this kid made up the total. The story completely, it's that. Yeah. How do you even. Yeah. Hey, Bird show.
Stephanie Bissa
Hi, this is Stephanie Bissa.
Cass
What's going on?
Stephanie Bissa
Hey. I was wanting to comment. Whenever I was little, I had told my teacher that my mom beat me.
Cass
Oh, Lord.
Stephanie Bissa
I know. And I just got occasionally whooping and defects reported it. Coming. My teacher reported it. And my mom got investigated by defects for three whole months.
Jeff
Because you got a spanking.
Stephanie Bissa
Yeah, and I just got a spanking and mama wanted to kill me.
Cass
Well, at some point she couldn't because
Melissa
defects was watching her.
Cass
At some point, there's no turning back. Like, once that investigation is launched, there's no turning back. You are the reason that your parent is in jail.
Melissa
See, and it's a whole different era. Because when I was a kid, if I went to my teacher and I said, my parents are spanking me or beating me or whatever, then the parent would probably call my mom and say, okay, this is what Melissa said and have a discussion with my mom about it. Because back in the day, parents and teachers worked together to raise the kid. But nowadays, like she said, defects gets involved. The parents have to report it to the police.
Jeff
If the teacher has to report it. I'm sure there's some sort of obligation for her.
Melissa
I know, but I'm saying that she doesn't know the parents well enough to call them up front.
Cass
Yeah. Like I think that it's a whole different world back in my day.
Melissa
Yeah. And it was okay. Well, anyway, yeah.
Cass
The look on my parents face after they get released from jail is one that I will never want to see. I will never see it because I'll be turned the other way, running as fast as I can.
Melissa
And there's a look, there's a parent look that I guess you just give, you know.
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Date: June 12, 2026
Cast: Cass, Melissa, Jeff (with call-ins and discussion of Bert’s signature theory)
This episode centers on a headline-grabbing case from a suburb near Atlanta, where a child allegedly got his parents arrested after telling a shocking story at school. The conversation delves into the reliability of children’s accounts, the responsibilities of teachers and authorities, and personal stories about kids’ actions having real consequences for their parents. The cast brings a mix of shock, incredulity, dark humor, and thoughtful consideration to the issue, with standout moments of personal recollection and cultural reflection.