Vault: This listener broke Jenn's #1 rule!

Summary

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The Bert Show: Vault – This Listener Broke Jenn’s #1 Rule!

Date: May 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of The Bert Show dives into a classic Bert Show scenario: a listener, Terry, finds herself in a messaging “crisis” with her ex-boyfriend and turns to the cast for real-time guidance. With humor and straight-talk, the cast helps Terry navigate the awkward waters after she ignored advice and broke Jenn’s cardinal rule—initiating contact with her ex. The segment offers advice on “texting etiquette,” relationship power dynamics, and the subtle art of post-breakup flirting. The tone is upbeat, candid, and full of banter, making drama both instructive and hilarious.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Terry’s Mistake: Breaking Jenn’s #1 Rule

• Terry’s Situation: Terry impulsively instant messaged her ex, despite previously being told not to initiate contact.
  • Quote (Terry, 01:27): “I know, I know, but I didn't—he wasn't IMing me, so I…”
• The Hosts’ Reaction: The cast teases her for “losing the stare down” and sets up the ensuing rescue mission.
  • Quote (Jeff, 01:47): "What you've done here is you have lost the stare down. Okay?...We were jockeying for alpha dog status here and you lost."

2. Dissecting Digital Flirting and Saving Face

• Her Attempts at Humor: Terry tried to break the ice with “Good morning, sunshine,” leading to awkward exchanges.
  • Quote (Terry, 02:08): “I thought I should be cute. So I was just like, good morning, sunshine.”
  • Quote (Jen, 04:43): “It's totally lame and almost unrecoverable. But we can come up with something.”
• Immediate Advice: The team brainstorms ways to steer the conversation back on track, recommending that Terry pivot and ask a topic-relevant question (“Who’s Alabama playing this weekend?”).
  • Quote (Jen, 05:22): “Let’s totally change the subject. How’s that?”

3. Strategizing Conversation – Playing It “Cool”

• Control & Power Dynamics: The group stresses letting the other party “make the next move” and holding back from over-texting.
  • Quote (Jeff, 04:52): “So now the ball is in your court for the next instant message back to him.”
  • Quote (Melissa, 13:40): “If you want to type him or call him, call a friend instead.”

4. Navigating the IM Exchange – Live Coaching

• Real-Time Messaging: The hosts guide Terry through several message exchanges:
  • Changing the subject to football (06:11)
  • Using “I was offered tickets…” as a plausible reason for contacting the ex (07:32)
  • Letting the ex inquire and offer tickets himself (10:27)
• Balancing Honesty vs. Strategy: Listener “Christian” calls in to challenge the strategy of stretching the truth about the tickets.
  • Quote (Christian, 20:20): “I just think it's a little ridiculous that you kind of built up this whole thing on a lie about football tickets and stuff.”
  • Hosts’ Counterpoint: Wendy and Jeff argue that it’s “not a lie, just a truth that hasn’t proven itself yet.” (Wendy, 21:18)

5. Key Teachings – Let Them Chase You!

• Jenn’s Rule Reinforced: The team reiterates the importance of not being the pursuer, especially early on; let the guy make the moves.
  • Quote (Jen, 22:23): “It sounds old school, but I think the first time that you go out with him, he should ask you out, let him chase you.”
  • Quote (Melissa, 22:36): “…Too many women think, oh, I'm gonna lose him if I don't let him know. No, exactly opposite. Makes us more intriguing. So don't initiate any IMs to him.”

6. Recovery & Takeaways

• Message Exchange Successes: Despite a shaky start, Terry “reels him back in,” and the conversation ends with playful teasing from the ex (“Have a good day, sunshine.”)
  • Quote (Terry, 17:56): “He said. He said, have a good day, sunshine.”
  • Quote (Jeff, 24:21): “You just… performed relationship CPR right there.”
• Final Rule: Terry promises, at the insistence of the group, not to initiate further IM conversations without consulting them:
  • Quote (Terry, 22:49): “I will not initiate any more IMs to him.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (With Timestamps)

• On Breaking the Rule:
  • “You have lost the stare down.” — Jeff (01:47)
• Awkward Opening Gambit:
  • “I thought I should be cute. So I was just like, good morning, sunshine.” — Terry (02:08)
  • “It's totally lame and almost unrecoverable.” — Jen (04:43)
• Real-Time Flirting Tactics:
  • “Let’s totally change the subject. How’s that?” — Jen (04:52)
• On Playing It Cool:
  • “If you want to type him or call him, call a friend instead.” — Melissa (13:40)
• On Recovery:
  • “She’s reeling them in right now. She’s reeling them in.” — Jeff (12:19)
  • “You just… performed relationship CPR right there.” — Jeff (24:21)
• On IM Strategy:
  • “Women cannot err if you’re erring on the side of having him chase you.” — Jeff (22:29)
• On Modern Honesty vs. Games:
  • “That whole outdated look, just be honest from the very start thing, man, that went out in 1962.” — Jeff (21:24)
• Listener Calls:
  • “You can't hate the players, hate the game.” — Jen (21:22)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------| | 01:22 | Terry admits sending the first message | | 02:08 | “Good morning, sunshine” - the regretted opener | | 04:43 | Jen labels the message “unrecoverable” | | 05:04 | Hosts suggest changing topic to football | | 07:32 | “I was offered tickets…” as a new conversation pivot | | 10:27 | Ex offers tickets—power dynamic shifts | | 14:08 | Ex mentions ex-girlfriend wedding in Atlanta | | 17:56 | Ex calls Terry “sunshine”—callback to her opener | | 20:20 | Listener questions show’s advice on honesty | | 22:46 | Hosts reinforce “do not initiate contact” rule | | 24:21 | “Relationship CPR”—recapping Terry’s recovery |

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Episode Flow & Dynamic

• The episode is a real-time coaching session, punctuated by laughter, light teasing, and teachable moments.
• The cast balances strategic dating advice with playful barbs and supportive energy, letting listeners see both the awkward and the empowering sides of “the dating game.”
• The inclusion of skeptical listeners adds a layer of debate about realness versus “games,” but the hosts stick firmly to their tested philosophies.

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Conclusions & Takeaways

• Main Message: Don’t rush to contact someone you’re interested in; let them make the moves to maintain intrigue and relationship balance.
• Lesson for Listeners: Even an awkward start (“Good morning, sunshine!”) can be recovered with the right advice, a little humor, and a willingness to play it cool.
• Ongoing Advice: Terry promises not to initiate any more IMs and to keep the show posted on her dating sagas.
• Bert Show Signature: Blend of wisdom, humor, and authenticity—turning everyday social dilemmas into must-listen radio.

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Transcript

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[Jeff]

Hey, the bird show. Terry is back from the other day. Terry is the virtual listener that instant messaged. The ex boyfriend was in a panic. So Jen and Wendy did a great job of getting her through it. And she's back. Hey, Terry.

[Terry]

Hi.

[Jeff]

Hi. How are you?

[Terry]

I'm okay. How are you?

[Jeff]

Good.

[Jen]

Did you initiate this IM chat?

[Terry]

Yeah. So nice.

[Jeff]

She told you not to.

[Terry]

I know, I know, but I didn't like, he wasn't imming me, so I

[Jen]

immed him 24 hours.

[Wendy]

The first time on with us was when? Monday or Tuesday?

[Terry]

Monday.

[Jeff]

I think it was Tuesday. I think it was Tuesday.

[Melissa]

It was only a day or two.

[Jeff]

What you've done here is you have lost the stare down. Okay? Basically by not IM ing each other, you were staring each other down. We were jockeying for alpha dog status here and you lost. And I don't know how Jen and Wendy are gonna recover this.

[Jen]

What did you say?

[Terry]

Well, I, like, I said like, I thought I should be cute. So I was just like, good morning, sunshine. Damn.

[Jeff]

Good morning, sun. Sunshine.

[Wendy]

Wtf?

[Bert]

I can't even defend against this.

[Jen]

Did he write back at all?

[Terry]

Yeah, he said hi. And then I said, you ready for the weekend or no? He said, yeah, hi, you ready for the weekend? And then I was like, not here yet. But then he didn't respond and like, there may have been like a type, like, what? I think I have a problem.

[Melissa]

I don't understand what you just said.

[Terry]

Again.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Terry]

You go like, yeah, So I said here, but H E A R. I just noticed. So we didn't say anything.

[Jeff]

We got to slow it down again. You get so. You get so excited and you get so nervous that what you say doesn't make sense. Okay, so you said, good morning. The Good morning sunshine thing. His instant message back to you was, what was high? And then you say, ready for the weekend? And he says,

[Terry]

yeah, not here yet. But it's. It's like. Then I was like, here.

[Bert]

He says, the weekend's not here yet. Okay, he's ready for it, but it's not here yet.

[Wendy]

So now the ball is in your court.

[Terry]

Yeah, but the thing is, like, I started to do something that's bad, and so I thought I should call you because I, like, sometimes I think, like, my jokes don't, like, land very well. Like, I feel like friends and stuff. What'd you do? I'm trying to be funny.

[Wendy]

She wrote Good Morning Sunshine spelled here wrong.

[Terry]

So, like.

[Melissa]

No, she said something else.

[Bert]

Oh, he spelled here wrong. And so what did you say after that?

[Terry]

Well, I was gonna say something about how he spelled it wrong.

[Wendy]

I would stay far away from that. Honey?

[Jeff]

Yeah? Don't do that.

[Wendy]

You don't need to be the spelling of grammar police. We talked to you on Tuesday and learned that very, very clearly.

[Jeff]

So now the ball is in your court for the next instant message back to him.

[Terry]

Yeah, Jen.

[Jeff]

Okay, bring in the I am wolf.

[Jen]

We gotta recover from the Good morning Sunshine. And I'm trying desperately to figure out a reason why she would have said that.

[Wendy]

Could it be, sorry, thought this is someone else?

[Jen]

No.

[Wendy]

Hey, back off, people.

[Jen]

They're already see through.

[Jeff]

Is the good morning sunshine thing that bad? Because he was so flirty with her in the first one and she didn't flirt back, not even a little bit. So she throws this bone to him just to sort of let him know, hey, I'm interested.

[Jen]

Still no. It's totally lame and almost unrecoverable. But we can come up with something. Let's see.

[Wendy]

All right, give us a minute.

[Jen]

Let's just totally change the subject. How's that?

[Bert]

Because they're on the weekend.

[Jen]

Let's ask him a question. Let's make him the expert. Ask him a question about you guys. Help me. Like a sports game. Something going on this weekend?

[Jeff]

Phillies just got into the world.

[Jen]

No, no, no, no. Football. College football. They're just out of college. What's like, the biggest game going on in the States?

[Wendy]

Oh, he's in Birmingham So what's. Is that Alabama? Is that near Birmingham?

[Terry]

Yeah.

[Melissa]

Who Alabama.

[Wendy]

Alabama playing? That's the question. It doesn't matter. That's the.

[Jeff]

That's the question is, who is Alabama.

[Wendy]

Who's Alabama playing this week?

[Jen]

Totally changes up. Yeah. Do you know who Alabama is playing this weekend?

[Terry]

Okay. Do you know who else?

[Jen]

You just have to totally change the subject.

[Terry]

Plane this weekend. He's. He's typing, though.

[Jeff]

Oh, he's typing something that's almost cruel. That little icon that allows you to know when they're typing is like, it's the most gripping soap opera ever. Like, I can't get the information fast enough.

[Melissa]

Don't say, what are you saying? What are you saying?

[Bert]

But don't click send yet until you see what he says first.

[Terry]

I sent it.

[Jen]

I think it's fine, because we need to establish a reason why she would be contacting him with the Good morning Sunshine, but, like, why she would need to reach out to him, like he's an expert on something.

[Melissa]

Oh, no.

[Terry]

What he said? No idea. Not a fan.

[Bert]

Maybe ask him what his college team of choice is.

[Wendy]

What about you?

[Jen]

They went to college together.

[Melissa]

Where did you all go to school?

[Terry]

We went to usc.

[Wendy]

Which one? South Carolina or the real one?

[Terry]

Oh, we went to the one in Los Angeles.

[Wendy]

Okay, dude, you're a foreigner here.

[Terry]

I mean, I could ask him about that. Maybe he still watches Jen.

[Jeff]

You better. Let's see how good you are.

[Wendy]

Jen, Come on.

[Jen]

I know. I was trying to figure out.

[Jeff]

I just want to let you know, Terry, you have really put your Jen in a very stressful situation.

[Jen]

I'm just trying to establish why you contacted him. Why don't you say something like, oh, I was looking forward to watching some good football this weekend or.

[Melissa]

Well, before you. Before you do that, like, is there any chance. I mean, let me ask the experts. Is there. Is there a chance that she could have been going to the game or something?

[Jen]

Or does that.

[Jeff]

No, because then she would know who.

[Wendy]

Let me Google real quick and see who Alabama's playing, because that might be a tie in Ellis.

[Bert]

No, they're playing Tennessee.

[Jen]

That's what I thought.

[Melissa]

I thought I should know that.

[Wendy]

In Tennessee or in Alabama?

[Melissa]

In Alabama. In Tuscaloosa.

[Wendy]

So could she be going there? I was. What about. I was offered tickets.

[Jen]

Yes, that's perfect. I was offered tickets.

[Bert]

Are you sure you want to do that, though? Because what if he says, well, you have anybody to go with?

[Jen]

No, but she doesn't have the tickets yet. Offered tickets is different.

[Jeff]

Offered.

[Wendy]

Okay, dude, I'M I'm absorbing your power. Nicely done.

[Jen]

Don't touch me.

[Jeff]

All right, so it's. I was offered tickets. Offered, offered tickets.

[Terry]

I was offered tickets, period. Okay? I was offered tickets.

[Bert]

I'm nervous about his response to that.

[Melissa]

If he says, go Vols, then I'll go out with him.

[Jeff]

Is that all? That's the key. That's all it takes.

[Wendy]

Go balls. Go balls. Go balls. Go balls. Jessica's been out of town for a while. Go balls. Honey, seriously? Volunteers. Rocky top all that stuff. Bring it.

[Terry]

He said you going.

[Jen]

Just say not sure yet.

[Wendy]

Good.

[Jeff]

Okay. You're getting them back on a road of insecurity. Nice job, Jen.

[Wendy]

Hey, that was mine, dude.

[Jeff]

Who are you?

[Melissa]

Well, I think I said about going to.

[Wendy]

Yeah, but nobody heard you. I heard you and then I said it louder so I win. Ah. Go balls. Did you respond to.

[Terry]

Yeah, I said not sure yet, but he's not typing anything.

[Jeff]

Okay, good. Let him stress out about a response.

[Wendy]

I find this.

[Jen]

Pretend like you're busy getting ready for work.

[Wendy]

Oh, I find this extraordinarily funny.

[Melissa]

Don't say anything, though. You weren't about to type something, were you?

[Jeff]

You let him make the next move. You can take your fingers off the keyboard.

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Jen]

So it's Alabama, Tennessee. What time is it?

[Bert]

Because I feel like she had.

[Melissa]

I feel like she's ready to transcribe anything that Jenner Wendy says. Oh, I'm getting ready for work. You know, like.

[Wendy]

No, no, no, I said it. No, I said it. Go balls.

[Bert]

It's a 2:30 game.

[Terry]

Okay.

[Bert]

Still early.

[Jeff]

He's got nothing. No response.

[Terry]

He's like entering text.

[Wendy]

You're getting the typing tease. You know what the cool thing about the typing tease is? Is it comes up on, like if you interrupt somebody. Like, you notice, like if I'm typing to Tracy and you click in Bert, then it shows me still typing up on your screen. You're like, oh, I'm get a quick response, but I'm ignoring you. It's cruel.

[Jeff]

You know, I like to do is just hit one letter so people think that I'm still writing something for six minutes, just L. L. What did he say?

[Terry]

He said, who would you go with?

[Melissa]

Okay.

[Wendy]

All right, so this is great.

[Melissa]

We're recovering.

[Jeff]

So we're back to where he's starting to inquire again just like he was the other.

[Jen]

Okay, you could just. Could she say a co worker invited her or a friend invited her?

[Bert]

I would definitely say a friend.

[Jeff]

How about just a friend and keep it? Because that wouldn't imply It's a guy. Doesn't imply it's a girl.

[Terry]

He said, I always have tickets through work.

[Jen]

Okay, that's good. That's good, that's good.

[Jeff]

So what he's saying is it really doesn't matter who you're going with. What he's already implying is that you guys are both gonna be at the game.

[Jen]

He could go.

[Jeff]

He could go all day.

[Melissa]

So he went from not liking Alabama to now being willing to go to tickets.

[Jen]

Not a fan, but I can always get tickets. They work. This is good.

[Terry]

It says, let me know if you need a pair. Might be able to help.

[Bert]

Oh, so he wants you to go

[Wendy]

to this, but a pair?

[Melissa]

He's saying, I'll provide it for you, but you tell me who you're going with.

[Jen]

Right.

[Jeff]

So he's not necessarily saying I'll meet you. He's saying, I can get tickets if you need them. But she's already taken care of.

[Jen]

Couldn't Wendy could. Wouldn't you just say something? Don't write this. Wouldn't you just. Wouldn't you just say something like some friends were talking about going. Not sure of the details yet.

[Bert]

Yes, perfect. Yes. Put that, write that.

[Jeff]

Did you catch that?

[Terry]

Friends of mine are going.

[Jen]

Some friends were talking about going.

[Wendy]

Listen very.

[Melissa]

Yes, transcribe what Jen's about to say.

[Jen]

Some friends were talking about going. Not sure the details yet.

[Terry]

Okay. Some friends talking. Not sure if the deal.

[Jen]

Because this puts it back in his court to make her to ask her to come. She's just kind of tossed it out there. This like. Do you know where they're playing? Jeff was brilliant with the. I've been off for tickets.

[Jeff]

Thank you for giving him credit or it would have bothered him all day today.

[Jen]

You know, like all that stuff, you know, it's kind of just like, eh, I might be able to see you, but I might not be that interested in going. Oh, I still can't believe she's reeling

[Jeff]

them in right now. She's reeling them in.

[Bert]

Well, just never say good morning, sunshine.

[Melissa]

Just never initiate the contact again.

[Wendy]

I don't even. I see the people I work with. I see every day what

[Terry]

he asked me. What are D E?

[Bert]

What are what D E T S. Yeah, type out details.

[Jen]

Just write out details.

[Melissa]

You've got to write this stuff out.

[Bert]

You don't use abbreviations after a certain age in your life.

[Jeff]

What are deets?

[Jen]

I love it that he doesn't get your lingo.

[Melissa]

Did you type details back to him?

[Terry]

I did.

[Jen]

Okay, well, you can't use abbreviation he said, o.

[Wendy]

Ask him what is O.

[Jeff]

Don't do that. He's kidding.

[Jen]

Just leave it. Give him a second to stew.

[Jeff]

Okay, so his last response was just, oh, so you're saying she shouldn't respond at all right now?

[Wendy]

She clarified details and his.

[Jen]

And his was like, oh, okay, details. Now it's his turn to respond even

[Bert]

though he already responded.

[Jen]

Right.

[Bert]

He needs a response on his response before you can respond.

[Jeff]

You should write back to him right now and say, look, if I go to Alabama this weekend, it's a sure thing for you.

[Jen]

No way.

[Jeff]

Why not dare write that.

[Melissa]

I think your friends, you need to have a sponsor. You know, much like people who have alcohol issues, you have I'm too excited about this guy issues and everything. Over eager. And if you want to type him or call him, call a friend instead.

[Jeff]

Right. I can't wait for you to touch.

[Melissa]

Stop.

[Jen]

No, don't.

[Melissa]

And write that to your friend. And then your friend will be confused.

[Wendy]

You have no bad touch. I like stranger danger with people. I went to college with no response from him yet.

[Terry]

Oh, just now he said, sounds like fun. There's about a 50% chance I will be in Atlanta tomorrow and Saturday.

[Jen]

Oh, that's good. See, now we're in it. He's the pursuer on you.

[Jeff]

Can she write something back? Like, wouldn't it be funny if I was there and you were here?

[Bert]

Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one, Bert.

[Wendy]

You got a good one. Way to go, Bert.

[Jen]

I think that's okay.

[Jeff]

My work is done here, people.

[Bert]

Type that, Bert. Type that now.

[Wendy]

All right, well, tell her very specifically, Bert, what to type.

[Jeff]

Wouldn't it be funny if I was in Alabama and you were here in Atlanta?

[Bert]

That's brilliant.

[Jeff]

Thanks. That's the dating dinosaur contribution.

[Melissa]

And spell it out in the A.

[Jeff]

And don't write Hotlanta. Do not write Hotlanta.

[Wendy]

No,

[Jen]

we're banning that.

[Jeff]

We're going to start a campaign here to teach the rest of the country never to refer to Atlanta as Hotlanta ever again.

[Wendy]

Weren't we gonna bury it? Like, have a funeral for it? Yeah, it's the death of, like death of auto tune.

[Jen]

Yeah, like death of auto tune.

[Terry]

Do, do, do.

[Jeff]

What if he writes back something like, I don't think that'd be funny. And then she writes back, why don't you shut up? And then he writes back, why don't you shut up? This is the reason why we broke up in the first place. Well, this. I never wanted to be with you. That's why I only hooked up with you.

[Jen]

We're in dangerous. You're going to be the last one to respond territory here. Okay, hold on. Before you. Okay, what does he say?

[Terry]

Oh, he said, check this out. My ex. My ex girlfriend. Oh, girlfriend. Is getting married in Atlanta, and I might go meet up with my parents who are invited to the freaking wedding.

[Wendy]

So his parents are going to his ex girlfriend's wedding in Atlanta, and so is he. So he might drive out.

[Jeff]

Does that mean he's going to the. Is he saying that he's going.

[Wendy]

Read it again.

[Jeff]

Can she ask that? Does that mean you're going?

[Terry]

It says my ex girlfriend is getting married in Atlanta and I might go meet up with my parents who are invited to the freaking wedding.

[Wendy]

So his parents are invited. Ask him. So your parents are invited to your ex girlfriend's wedding.

[Jeff]

Wait, run this through the gym.

[Wendy]

All right, hold on. Don't write that.

[Jeff]

You shut your mouth.

[Wendy]

I do not write that.

[Melissa]

No, because that sounds like you care.

[Jen]

Yes, I think you just write back, ouch.

[Christian]

Ouch.

[Bert]

That was simple but good.

[Jen]

Like, oh, that sucks for you.

[Melissa]

Just say ouch.

[Jeff]

And there is no abbreviation for ouch.

[Bert]

Not ou, dot, dot, dot.

[Terry]

She said, no kidding.

[Jen]

See? All right, now you guys are on the same team. Okay.

[Wendy]

Oh, my God. I'm frightened of being social with Jen.

[Jen]

Okay, so I think here's where we need to make our exit strategy. I think the last thing you need to say is, gotta run. Keep me posted.

[Terry]

Oh, no.

[Jen]

What'd he say?

[Terry]

He said, so he said, no kidding. And then he wrote off to work. Talk to you later.

[Jeff]

He got the last one in.

[Bert]

Oh, dang it.

[Jeff]

He got the last one.

[Terry]

He's still typing again.

[Jeff]

Okay, should she write something before she gets his.

[Bert]

No, no, no, no.

[Melissa]

I think you're done, honey.

[Jeff]

Hold on.

[Wendy]

Break your fingers. Go slam your fingers in the car door.

[Jen]

No, no, not yet.

[Wendy]

Never mind. You might need them.

[Terry]

He said. He said, have a good day, sunshine.

[Jen]

Leave it right.

[Melissa]

Leave it right.

[Jeff]

How about just you two and then sign up?

[Jen]

No, no, not you two. I think you should just acknowledge the joke. I think you should just write like, ha, ha, ha.

[Wendy]

What about lol?

[Jeff]

How about a smiley face?

[Melissa]

Or lol?

[Wendy]

What about one of those capital D smiley faces? So it's like.

[Jen]

No, I think you're right, Jeff. I think lol. That's it.

[Terry]

Lol.

[Wendy]

All cabs.

[Jen]

Yep.

[Jeff]

And then sign off.

[Melissa]

That's it.

[Bert]

Lol.

[Jen]

And then wait. Just wait.

[Jeff]

Well, you're giving him the chance.

[Jen]

Then he should be the last one to respond, but she needs to acknowledge his last three.

[Bert]

So it was a joke.

[Jen]

That's why the LOL is to acknowledge the last three.

[Wendy]

And then you know what they should do?

[Jen]

See if he puts in another one.

[Wendy]

You know how they have a million different smiley faces and they have the big grin, the little grin, the laugh, the tongue sticking out. They should do orgasm faces.

[Jeff]

Oh, come on, Jeff. It's 7:42, dude. They do.

[Bert]

They just put the little.0 or. No,

[Jeff]

Christian, I won't get to your call, but I am acknowledging that it's a great point. If this guy's going to be in Atlanta this weekend, we cannot play this segment on Saturday morning during the Best of Smart. Thank you for the save, Christian.

[Melissa]

Awesome.

[Jen]

It was so smart, Melissa and I had to sing it.

[Jeff]

Anything back from this dude?

[Wendy]

No, I don't think it's okay. I think you need to sign off.

[Jen]

Sign off.

[Terry]

Okay.

[Jeff]

Get out. Get out.

[Wendy]

Because I think the LOL is an acknowledge is a. But it's not a response. So technically he still had the last word in, so you're gone.

[Jen]

I think it's good.

[Jeff]

Are you off now?

[Terry]

Yeah, I'm off.

[Melissa]

That was a save.

[Terry]

You're not good that he said sunshine, right? That's like.

[Jeff]

I think that's a key right there. Good morning.

[Jen]

Jimmy's. He's joking on your cheesiness.

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Jeff]

You think?

[Jen]

No.

[Melissa]

Yes.

[Jeff]

Hey, Michelle. Good morning.

[Terry]

Hey, guys. How are ya?

[Jeff]

Good. How are you? This has been really fun.

[Terry]

Listen, this guy, he needs a date to the wedding. That's my thought.

[Wendy]

I got the vibe that he's actually a good thought, but I got the vibe that he wasn't going.

[Jen]

He wasn't invited going to the wedding.

[Wendy]

His parents. That's why he said my parents are freaking going. Because it's obviously a situation where the parents are friends.

[Melissa]

He's coming in town the same weekend as the wedding, so I don't know.

[Wendy]

It's driving over to see his parents. If they went to USC, how would his parents live in LA?

[Jeff]

Right, right, right. Hey, Alex, good morning. You're on Q100.

[Christian]

Hey, Bert. I just called him to say I think, honestly, I can't agree with what. What y' all just did there. I just think it's a little ridiculous that you kind of built up this whole thing on a lie about football tickets and stuff. I mean, if she really likes him, why wasn't she just honest with you?

[Jeff]

Can't do that. You can't do this too soon.

[Wendy]

And we're trying To. And we're trying to build time.

[Christian]

So you lie about it. I mean, so they do get together. It's like, oh, well, we just started talking because you lied to me about college tickets and stuff. I mean, if. If he has any mutual feelings towards her, then I feel like she could be. Then she could be open and it wouldn't be a problem.

[Wendy]

There is no lie about the tickets. It was all, we might go, friends might go. If she wanted to right now, she could hop on the phone with five friends and go, hey, let's hit StubHub, buy a bunch of tickets and go. So it's not a lie. It's just a truth that hasn't proven itself yet.

[Jen]

It's a suggestion.

[Jeff]

And hey, man, that hasn't.

[Wendy]

It's a truth that hasn't been proven yet.

[Jeff]

I'm trying to use that.

[Jen]

You can't hate the players, hate the game.

[Melissa]

Right?

[Jeff]

That's right. Yeah. That whole outdated look, just be honest from the very start thing, man, that went out in 1962.

[Melissa]

Well, and it's different because she is so into this guy. Like, if she was honest about her feelings, he would be. So he would run so far in the other direction.

[Jeff]

Okay, Terry, keep us posted. I imagine that you guys are gonna be on the same schedule every morning. That if he's online at this time every morning, it'll be a consistent thing.

[Melissa]

But can now can we learn the lesson? And Jen and Wendy, I defer to you guys that she not initiate anymore conversations.

[Jen]

Yeah, I think because he talked about coming here and that he might come here, and he talked about that you might go there. I think the next time, like, let him hit you up tomorrow. Cause he may hit you up and say, hey, booked a last minute flight. I'm on my way to Atlanta. Or I jumped in the car this morning, I'm on my way to Atlanta. I'll be. You know what I'm saying? And then you can go from there on setting up something because he should ask you out, right?

[Wendy]

It's burning ham. What are we, 90 minutes away?

[Jen]

I mean, it sounds, you know, it sounds old school, but I think the first time that you go out with him, he should ask you out, let him chase you.

[Jeff]

You cannot err. We've said this so many times. Women cannot err if you're erring on the side of having him chase you.

[Melissa]

And too many women think, oh, I'm gonna lose him if I don't let him know. No, exactly opposite Makes us more intriguing. So don't initiate any IMs to him. Okay.

[Terry]

Okay.

[Jeff]

I say that out loud to us. Repeat that back.

[Terry]

I will not initiate any more IMs to him.

[Jeff]

That's my girl.

[Jen]

At least without consulting us first.

[Wendy]

Lol.

[Jeff]

Okay.

[Jen]

Lol.

[Jeff]

All right, Terry, nice job today.

[Terry]

Thank you so much, you guys.

[Melissa]

I think we saved it.

[Jen]

It's on, baby.

[Wendy]

So does he. Just for clarification, if he hits her up tomorrow, can she respond without our guidance, or does she have to call Tracy?

[Jen]

I think she should call Tracy tomorrow.

[Wendy]

Okay.

[Melissa]

Yeah.

[Jen]

I mean, if he's coming here, we gotta help her navigate that first time, and then it gets easier. After the first date, after he first initially asked her out and he's showing interest, then she can chill out and be more herself and she doesn't need help. But it's the fishing. We're fishing right now. We're reeling him in.

[Jeff]

What if she's online later today after the show and he's online and he hits her with an instant message and we're not around to help her out?

[Wendy]

She's gotta ignore it.

[Bert]

She is a friend.

[Wendy]

She's got to ignore it. Because then tomorrow during the show, she can write him back and go, sorry I missed you yesterday. Left it open on my home computer.

[Jen]

Done.

[Jeff]

Can you do that? Terry, if he never apologize, you can't handle this alone.

[Wendy]

So sorry I missed you.

[Bert]

No, you cannot say sorry at all.

[Jen]

You don't apologize.

[Jeff]

We'll get to that tomorrow if it happens.

[Jen]

Okay?

[Jeff]

All right, Terry, so if he hits you with an instant message today, under no circumstance do you respond to it because you just can't handle it. Okay?

[Jen]

But we love you and we like helping you.

[Terry]

Thank you so much.

[Jen]

At least, hopefully we are helping.

[Terry]

Yeah.

[Jeff]

Okay. I hope we are. Talk to you later.

[Melissa]

I think we are. Because, I mean, I love that. I mean, you helped her recover from Good Morning Sunshine and what the hell,

[Wendy]

to the point where he was joking about it at the end. That was well done.

[Jeff]

You just. You performed relationship CPR right there.

[Jen]

I am earning my texting PhD.

[Jeff]

That was first date Heimlich right there. She was choking and you came up right behind her and got that thing out of her throat. The bird show.