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Yeah, they're boyfriend and girlfriend and they both wanted to have this experience of traveling around the world. So they pulled it together and both quit their jobs. I think she sold a condo, moved all their stuff into storage. And we were following them all around the world through Asia and we were, you know, getting to hear their stories or whatever. But for us, maybe more interesting than the places they were visiting was how it was affecting their relationship. And so we followed them through when they were really getting along great. This is the best I'm so in love with you. This is the best time ever to, you know, some of their fights to them kind of bugging each other to them, you know, becoming really close friends. So it was kind of a roller coaster throughout the entire time we followed them and, and then most recently we talked to her. She said she was gonna be coming home and he was gonna continue to travel.
B
Yeah, the last time we talked to her, this is just like a two minute recap of exactly what she told us. And the timing of this stuff is really important here also. But she was saying, yeah, the relationship's just not working. We're gonna go our separate ways, but we're still gonna travel together.
D
Brian and I, when we decided to leave, had been together just less than two years. He had this idea that he wanted to go travel around the world. And I really love to travel. So his idea, kind idea. After a false start or two, we finally hit the road in May.
B
All right, now there have been some ups and some downs there was a night that you guys told us about where Brian just got hammered. I mean, just got hammered. And basically, you guys. Bro. He wanted to break up.
D
Yeah.
B
But that was just all the alcohol. The next day, things were fine. And although you guys are traveling together, there's been some tension there, but I think that was to be expected on a trip like this. Right.
D
There's definitely been times that the situation gets frustrating enough that we both just kind of take it out on each other, and then we get on each other's nerves, and, you know, our company gets old.
B
Okay, so as we sit today, you're in what country?
D
We're in Greece.
B
You're both in Greece together. Okay, we are in Greece.
D
We are in Greece.
B
But that's going to change soon.
D
In April, I will be back in the US And Brian. Well, I'm not sure where Brian's going to be. It will not be back in the U.S. i've kind of just hit the end, and he has not and does not foresee the end anytime soon. So he will be somewhere in Europe probably.
B
Okay, so you're coming home, and he's traveling. So are you guys going to stay in touch? Are you going to continue this relationship even though he's traveling, or are you pretty much saying that in April, when you come home, you're gonna date other people and he's gonna be traveling?
D
It is the end of our relationship as people who are monogamous, and we will keep in touch, but we're not gonna stay together. Now.
C
Are you gonna stay together until April? Yeah.
E
That's weird.
D
Weird.
B
Yeah.
D
So nothing happened.
B
It's just that you're.
C
You're done traveling, and he wants to travel more. That.
D
That's breaking the two of you up, relationship wise? We're fine. But we did kind of start realizing that we want different things, and we're starting to realize, you know, you may not be the one. And so it's. I think we've started to realize that this was going to end before I decided for sure I was going home and sort of gave us a reason to end it.
B
Okay. So the important parts there is they realize that it's not working out. They're going to break up, but she's going to continue traveling. They're in this relationship with an expiration date.
E
Mm.
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She's gonna continue travel until April together. Okay. Which was interesting for us because traveling the world is stressful enough. But now when you're traveling the world with somebody that you know, you're not gonna be in a relationship within a couple of months. This could be some pretty interesting theater here, right? So last week I asked Tracy to get Mandy or Brian back on with us, just to give us an update on what was going on in the relationship. You know, how they're traveling together even though they're not with each other, what's up? And when I do that, I always go to their blog and their website before they come on, just so I sort of know exactly what countries they're in, so I can guide the interview one way or the other, just so I'm a little educated about it. And what struck me a couple of days ago, this was his blog. I'm not exactly sure what date the blog entry was, but this is what it said. This is from Brian. You imagine that it'll happen in the train station, drawn out with tearful hugs and then a final wave as one rides off while the other stands on the platform watching the train disappear into the distance. It doesn't make the fact that you're saying goodbye to someone special any easier, but at least you'll have a vivid last memory to hold onto when you get in. Reality is nothing like what you imagined. It's an unfulfilling 10 second hug on an Athenian street corner in front of a post office, cut short both by circumstance and because you're too proud to let half of Syntagma see you cry, which you'll definitely do if you drag it out just a second longer. So you whisper one final I love you and let her go on her way. And you go back into the post office to finish your business. Then 10 seconds later, you emerge from the post office and watch her walk away, debating the whole time whether you should run after her and do this properly. But you don't. You lie to yourself and you say that you should just let it go, but the real reason is that you don't want to cry. Not now. So instead of getting one last hug, you steel yourself and go back to your task. And don't think about it until that night when you're alone in a dingy hotel room. You start typing this post and you realize the truth of the matter. That's when you really start to cry.
E
Aww.
B
So that's what?
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Sad.
D
Sad.
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It's really a bummer, right? So she must have seen that and she responded to his blog on the same website and writes, damn it, Brian. This just. This just made me cry. And I'm using a public computer in the lobby of my hostel. Unlike you, I couldn't control it. In Athens either. I cried all the way to the train station. Yes, that's through Syntagma and four metro stops. A Greek woman said something to me on the metro and gave me a hug. Everyone else just stared at me. So I guess they decided to go one way or the other. Right? So I read that, and I said, trace, we got to get Mandy on. So she tries calling around, trying to get Mandy on. And I think Mandy, maybe producer Tracy can come down here and tell you exactly what happened. But I think she tried calling Mandy's local number and it was disconnected. And the Verizon cell that we've been using, it was just going right to voicemail. So we had no idea really what was going on. All we know is that they broke up. Right. It's what it appears on the blog. So Mandy must have gotten an email from somebody saying they're talking about you on the radio and they have no idea what's going on. And this is what she writes to Tracy a couple of days ago. Sorry, I'm just getting this message. I guess Tracy emailed Mandy. Sorry, I'm just getting this message. I have a lot happen. I've had a lot happen since the last time I talked to you. Brian and I separated. I traveled alone in Italy for a week before meeting up with my dad. My plan is to travel two weeks with my dad and. And fly home with them on March 3rd, but that may change. Traveling alone was great. It was really nice to not have to worry about someone else for a bit. But now that I've had some space, I realize that leaving Brian was a huge mistake. I miss him like crazy. We are still working through our emotions and our future, if there is one. I know you guys would probably be interested in talking to me about all that, but I can't yet. The emotion is too raw and. And I couldn't do it without crying the whole time. I realize now that Brian is someone I love deeply and I could spend the rest of my life with him. Whoa.
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Wow.
B
I'll try to keep you updated. Mandy.
E
Wow. Do you think just the intensity of traveling the way they did, just the fight built and built, and there was no chance to take a break and just cool off. And that's what it escalated to. But it doesn't necessarily mean they're over.
B
I don't know.
C
Or it could be the other way around. Like, you know, having a week off. She's just second guessing that choice because she's been so used to being around him for a year.
B
Maybe this is Their version of, you know, the couples that break up and then they get back together again, Then they break up and they get back together again, but they can't do it physically right now because they're in two different places. So are they doing it emotionally?
E
Because you panic when you leave, like Jen said, and then you're like, wait a second. I feel. I feel out in the cold. Wait a second, wait a second. You know, I don't want to be alone, so I don't know.
B
So I think it is what it is. Right now.
C
They're both cry.
E
This is such a European movie, you know, they're both crying at separate places. And the scene cuts to both of them and they don't know anything about.
G
What if it's a situation where they decide, you know what? We gotta go 30 days without talking. But then they run into each other like on the Great Wall of China.
B
It's destiny.
E
And that's when they kiss and the sun sets behind them and the credits roll.
C
It's at the Eiffel Tower.
E
Yes, Always.
G
It'll be candlelights. Remember when I walked?
E
Great Wall of China's not romantic.
G
When I was at the coliseum and ran into Susie traveling around the world.
B
Yeah, that's right.
G
I mean, it'd be a little bit different because what I heard from across the courtyard was, holy balls. Are you from the Birch Show?
E
They edit that in when they do the screenplay.
G
Okay. So it'll be a little bit different.
B
So you can follow along with Mandy and Brian, even though I'm not sure there's a lot to follow along with. But it sounds like they're still dabbling in this whole thing and they're still blogging about it online.
C
So glad her dad is there with her. Yeah, that is so great.
B
But we'll try to get her on next week if she's up to talking about it. But who knows? She may be back traveling with him next week. Who knows at this point? Right? It's a tragedy. This is the Birch Show.
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Episode Title: Vault: We're Worried Our Favorite Traveling Couple Called It Quits
Release Date: March 24, 2026
Main Cast: Bert, Kristin, Abby, Cassie, Tommy, and others
This episode revisits the saga of Mandy and Brian, a listener couple who left everything behind to travel the world together. The Bert Show has been following their ups and downs—both the adventure and the strain it put on their relationship. The latest development: Mandy and Brian appear to have split, but with plenty of uncertainty, heartbreak, and open-ended feelings lingering as they part ways in Europe. The Bert Show hosts recap the situation, read poignant blog posts from each traveler, and discuss the emotional complexities behind breakups on the road.
Brian’s Blog Post ([05:00]):
A moving real-time reflection about a rushed, tearful parting with Mandy on an Athenian street.
Mandy’s Reply ([06:31]):
Mandy describes reading Brian’s post from a hostel computer, crying throughout her solo route to the train station.
On Traveling Together in Breakup Mode:
On the Nature of Their Goodbye:
On Realizing What Matters:
On the "Movie Ending":
The episode is candid, empathetic, and conversational, mirroring the show's usual blend of real-life drama and lighthearted banter. The cast alternates between heartfelt analysis, sincere advice, and comedic relief, making the listener feel part of Mandy and Brian’s extended support group. If you care about love, travel, growing pains, or are just a sucker for a bittersweet story, this is a Bert Show episode that’ll stick with you.