Jeff (1:33)

So, yeah, Jessica picks out the paint, and what happens? She has a very difficult time with change and commitment and new and decision,

Caller/Guest 1 (1:44)

like, decision making about this. Because I think that paint color is probably the most difficult thing to make a decision about.

Jeff (1:51)

Yes. And I mean, we have. I think one of the biggest public fights that we ever got in was in the Home Depot paint aisle. And I'm pretty sure I threw a handful of those little paint squares at her at some point in there and walked out. And, you know, and I think the guy over there, you know, mixing the paint, you know, running the big jiggler box thing, you know, mixing that. I think he. I don't even think he was alarmed. Any other time you see a man throw a handful of something at a woman like, you're probably calling 911. He's like, oh, there's.

Burt (2:17)

That's not his first rodeo.

Jeff (2:19)

But it was because she's just so fickle and whatever. So part of me is tempted to just do it because I know she'll like it once it's done.

Burt (2:32)

Oh, boy.

Katie (2:32)

See, that's what Katie and I did. The whole. Each room is a different person's responsibility, and that alleviates any fight. So we divided our house up into. In half, and we did room by room. And I can't say anything about the room she's in charge of and vice versa. Yeah, I mean, but.

Jeff (2:48)

Yeah, like. Yeah, I guess I do.

Katie (2:49)

No, I do.

Burt (2:50)

But, I mean, that's not what you would pick.

Katie (2:51)

But it doesn't matter because it's. I mean, that's what we decided upon, and we have not had an argument over doing our house.

Burt (2:57)

Here's the risk you're running. If you go ahead and you pick the paint without running it by her when she walks into the house, just on principle alone, she's not gonna like the color.

Caller/Guest 1 (3:09)

You don't know that.

Burt (3:10)

But that's not a risk I take. That's a lot of money.

Caller/Guest 1 (3:13)

That's your expectation? She could come back in and be like, oh, my God, Jeff, thank you so much. This is perfect. And she could really be really thankful that you eliminated that decision making for her.

Burt (3:25)

Actually, you know your wife better than anybody. So which one of those scenarios is the more likely?

Jeff (3:31)

Here's what I feel where I think I'm running into a problem. I think I could get the house done in a way that she would really like and that she would be happy with it once it was done. But it's really gonna be expensive and miserable if, like, that little, you know, the 3% if you're wrong. If my scale, like one of those thermometers, if the tiny little bit of white's still at the top.

Burt (3:56)

Dude, the repercussions are so heavy here.

Jeff (3:58)

I would never make another. That I wouldn't ever again.

Burt (4:00)

Then I wouldn't do it. No bail mission.

Caller/Guest 1 (4:02)

So what are you exactly painting?

Jeff (4:04)

Everything. A few months ago, our roof leaked. We had some interior damage. We're having that repaired. And because that damage is, like, at the angle of where the ceilings meet the walls, they have to in order to match the paint. The insurance company is actually paying to have the whole room repainted. Like, you don't just get the damaged area. They're going to repaint the ceiling in the entire room, which gives us the option of changing the colors. So with that, there were a couple other things we wanted to do, which is going to mean a couple other rooms are painted. So with the exception of the biggest room in our house, like the big. We call it the fancy living room, like the kind of the den area, formal living room. With the exception of that room, which is really big, the. The whole rest of the house is getting painted. The area I'm concerned about is, like, the kitchen, dining room, casual living room. Like, three.

Katie (4:56)

So you have three rooms for the entire house.

Burt (4:58)

That's three rooms right there, man.

Jeff (4:59)

Well, that's where we live. Like, that's where we eat dinner at the table. We cook in the kitchen. We lie on the couch. We. You know.

Caller/Guest 1 (5:05)

So why don't you get a designer to come over and pick the colors?

Jeff (5:08)

We've had bad luck with designers.

Caller/Guest 1 (5:10)

Well, that doesn't mean he will again.

Jeff (5:12)

I know, but what if I do? Then not only is it my fault for doing that, then I've hired someone to come over and pick wrong colors,

Burt (5:17)

and then he hasn't consulted her on the designer.

Jeff (5:21)

What about me?

Burt (5:22)

Hey, Charity. Good Morning. You're on Q100. Hi.

Charity (5:24)

Good morning, Jeff. My advice to you would be just do it. I'm going through the same thing at my house.

Jeff (5:31)

Yes.

Charity (5:31)

And I don't like change. I feel like there's such a sense of finality with choosing paint colors. It's so stressful to me. And as much as I'm telling my husband, no, no, no, let me choose. Let me choose. In a way, I wish he would just do it.

Burt (5:44)

It's a trap, dude. Yeah, it's a trap.

Jeff (5:46)

I know.

Burt (5:46)

What? I think she's in on the trap.

Jeff (5:49)

Yeah.

Burt (5:49)

Don't do it. I think all women here are bonded by trying to trap men.

Katie (5:53)

So, again, so you're not choosing the colors for the entire house, or you're trying to choose the.

Jeff (5:57)

The problem that I.

Katie (5:58)

It's not. One room's a big change. But you're talking. You're painting every wall in your house.

Jeff (6:02)

Just three, but major rooms. Three rooms that we're in.

Katie (6:05)

Main rooms. You're in. Yeah.

Carolyn (6:06)

Yeah.

Jeff (6:07)

I did the garage. I picked out the colors in the garage all by myself.

Burt (6:10)

She don't care about that.

Jeff (6:11)

She let me.

Burt (6:11)

She. She doesn't care.

Caller/Guest 1 (6:13)

She let me.

Burt (6:14)

Yeah, that was her. Right? That was her sacrificial. She didn't care about that.

Jeff (6:16)

But it's just. Like I said, it's just so. There's so much that goes into painting. The fact that we have to do it Twice.

Burt (6:23)

Don't do it. Good morning. Q100.

Katie (6:26)

Is that A.

Burt (6:26)

This is a Volkswagen Bug telling you not to do it. Hey. What's going on?

Caller/Guest 2 (6:31)

Not much, Jeff. I've been married for 12 years. Birds, right? Don't do it. Just the fact that she said not to touch the paint until she got home. She's gonna hate whatever you like. Yeah, man. Just off GP Don't.

Burt (6:45)

Too much to lose. Not enough to gain here, man.

Jeff (6:47)

I actually thought of doing something like. Like one of the closets or something. Painting it like a really wild color. Like really bright green and go.

Caller/Guest 2 (6:54)

Hey.

Jeff (6:55)

And I thought this would be. And using your technique.

Burt (6:58)

Shocking her.

Jeff (6:58)

Right. And then the rest of the house would just be the nice. Like the browns, the. And the yellows that we had talked about. Ish. But then they have her go that closet. Then she still has the power to change something. Because I never would have kept the closet that color anyways.

Burt (7:11)

If the roles are reversed and you walk in from your vacation and she's got three major rooms done.

Katie (7:16)

And you specifically told her not to.

Burt (7:18)

Specifically said, now, if we're going to do this together, don't do anything until I get back. You're going to be close to it as soon as you walk.

Jeff (7:24)

Not if they look good, though.

Burt (7:25)

Even if they look good. I think even if they look good. You would fight her on it on principle alone.

Jeff (7:30)

Because I know the genre.

Burt (7:32)

It might come in a couple of days. You may soften up that it looks good. But initially you'd be like, I can't believe. I can't believe you did that.

Jeff (7:37)

And I know the family of color she wants. And then she's. Now she's throwing stuff in there just to complicate it. To scare me away from doing it. Because she's like. I think because of the way the light comes in the whatever room. We should do that room. Eggshell. And I was like, I don't like that color. And she said, eggshell's not a color. It's a texture of paint. What does that mean?

Burt (8:00)

It means they can manipulate us in ways we never even saw coming.

Jeff (8:03)

I don't know what is eggshell.

Burt (8:06)

Don't do it. Too much to risk, man. Three major rooms that she don't do it.

Katie (8:12)

And she specifically told you not to touch the paint till she got back.

Jeff (8:16)

But then. Okay. But she did send me an email of a kitchen and said, do you like the way this one looks?

Caller/Guest 1 (8:22)

She could just pick that.

Jeff (8:23)

Yeah. And I did.

Burt (8:25)

Would that have been what you picked?

Jeff (8:27)

What they said? Yeah, it's close. I know. We're in the family. The problem is, Bert, what's the difference between thundercloud gray, field mouse gray? You can't tell.

Katie (8:39)

She can, but on a huge wall. But on a huge wall. Yes, you can tell.

Caller/Guest 2 (8:42)

No, you can't.

Jeff (8:43)

They're the same thing.

Katie (8:44)

It's that little swatch. It's just the little swatch, but the entire room.

Jeff (8:48)

That's Sherwin Williams jacking with our minds.

Burt (8:50)

Carolyn, I've got about 30 seconds. What's up?

Carolyn (8:53)

My husband and I, we painted our entire house this weekend. And what we did. Cause we were in the same predicament. We couldn't agree on colors, so he went out and picked three. I picked my three. We commented on each other's, and then I got the final decision. And we're happy. We're both happy with our decision.

Jeff (9:07)

Did you pick one of.

Carolyn (9:10)

No, actually, it's one of his three.

Katie (9:11)

Okay.

Burt (9:12)

All right.

Carolyn (9:12)

They were different shades. They were kind of all the same tone, but they were different shades. But it kept us from arguing, because the first time we painted together, I think we were gonna get divorced.

Jeff (9:22)

That was what we did.

Burt (9:24)

One day we're gonna have to take, like, calls from people at Home Depot, because I bet the biggest fights come at that place. Man. They should have. They should have a therapist, like, somewhere in the. In the northwest corner set up at Home Depot just so you can see them on the way. That's right here. Bird, show.