Vault: Why doesn't he date black women?

Summary

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The Bert Show - "Vault: Why Doesn't He Date Black Women?"

Date: July 31, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of The Bert Show features a candid and often humorous discussion sparked by a caller’s question to co-host Brandon: Why doesn't he date Black women? The conversation, featuring the show's cast and listeners, dives into personal experiences, social observations, and cultural perceptions of interracial dating and personal preference within dating pools. The tone is frank but playful, and the cast tries to take the topic with both seriousness and levity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Brandon’s Personal Experience and Preferences

[00:24-01:22]

• Courtney (Caller) directly asks Brandon, "Why is it that you don't date black women?"
• Brandon reveals, somewhat warily, that he has many Black women friends but, "I honestly don't know. Just never progressed that far," ([00:31]).
• Explains that many Black women he's known have "attitudes"—a "snappy finger attitude"—and he says, "I'm somebody who doesn't deal well with attitudes," ([00:49]).
• When pressed, Brandon notes he grew up attending predominantly white schools, so his social circle and dating pool skewed white ([01:41]).

Notable Quote:

"I guess it's just the black women I hang around with, and I'm somebody who doesn't deal well with attitudes."
—Brandon ([00:49])

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2. Cultural Context and Social Conditioning

[01:58-02:44]

• Courtney relates by sharing she went to a predominantly white high school, then attended a Black college.
• There’s some ribbing about the difference in college experiences, with jokes about "Morehouse man" vs. "Kennesaw kid".
• The underlying point: geography, upbringing, and exposure greatly influence dating dynamics and preferences.

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3. Addressing Stereotypes and Challenges

[02:22-03:21]

• Courtney challenges the idea that all Black women have the attitude Brandon describes: "it's only a select few that are like that," ([01:22]).
• Panel Reaction: They suggest Brandon is shy and likely intimidated, so perhaps more assertive women (of any race) might not fit with his personality.
• Discussion about being attracted to aggressive women, with the panel joking a strong personality could actually benefit someone like Brandon.
• Brandon clarifies, "It's not about looks for me. It's not about skin color or anything like that. It's just in my life, I've only gone out with white girls," ([03:04]).

Notable Quote:

"I've only gone out with white girls."
—Brandon ([03:04])

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4. Double Standards and Broader Commentary

[03:31-04:46]

• Discussion broadens to address double standards and social reactions around interracial dating.
• An anecdote about white women saying they don’t date Black men for no specific reason is shared:

  "A white woman will come up to me and say, ‘Oh, he's good looking guy, but I just don't date black guys,’ and I say, ‘Well, why not?’ And they never have a reason why." —Co-host (Brandon), ([03:31])

• Panel and callers note it would be "more of an issue if Brandon were a player and dated lots of girls," ([04:06]).
• Brandon admits, "I just don't date any girls," ([04:22]).

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5. Listener Calls and Alternate Perspectives

[04:55-06:02]

• Another Black male caller relates, saying he has never dated a Black woman, either, due to circumstance and not meeting anyone he was "mentally attracted to."

  "I have tons of black female friends...I just haven't found any black woman that I was interested in, like, ever." —Caller ([05:17])

• The group acknowledges how upbringing and peer groups shape dating habits.
• The rarity, or "novelty," of seeing a white man with a Black woman is remarked upon, both by Brandon and the panel:

  "We find it odd every time we see a white guy with a black girl." —Brandon ([05:56])

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Memorable Moments and Quotes

• [00:49] Brandon on Attitude Stereotypes:

  "We call it the snappy finger attitude in the group of friends. Like, you know, the, 'Oh, no, you didn’t,' snap your finger, wag your head attitude."

• [03:31] Co-host (Brandon) on Racial Preferences:

  "A white woman will come up to me and say, ‘Oh, he's good looking guy, but I just don't date black guys.’ And I say, ‘Well, why not?’ And they never have a reason why."

• [04:22] Brandon, self-deprecating reply on dating:

  "I just don't date any girls."

• [05:56] Brandon on the "novelty" of interracial relationships:

  "That actually is a novelty that we see...we find it odd every time we see a white guy with a black girl."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [00:24] – Caller asks: Why doesn't Brandon date Black women?
• [00:49] – Brandon explains attitudes and personal discomfort.
• [01:41] – Brandon discusses attending mostly white schools.
• [03:04] – Brandon: Not about race, just who I’ve met.
• [03:31] – Co-host shares white women’s reasons for not dating Black men.
• [04:22] – Brandon admits not dating many girls at all.
• [05:17] – New caller: Black man, never dated Black woman.
• [05:56] – The "novelty" of white guy/Black woman couples.

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Tone and Style

• The conversation is open, occasionally uncomfortable, but laced with humor and self-aware candor.
• The hosts keep things light while tackling real social issues, ensuring callers feel heard but also poking fun at each other and themselves.

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Final Thoughts

This episode spotlights how upbringing, social environment, and stereotypes play into dating choices—even when individuals insist it's not about race. The cast brings nuance and levity to the subject, showing that these conversations can both acknowledge uncomfortable truths and foster insight (and some laughs) for listeners.

Transcript

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[Host (Burt)]

The Burt Show.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

Good morning, Courtney. You're on the Burt Show. Hello.

[Caller (Courtney)]

Hello. How are you?

[Host (Burt)]

Good.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

How are you, Courtney?

[Caller (Courtney)]

I'm good. I have a question for Brandon.

[Brandon]

What's up?

[Caller (Courtney)]

Why is it that you don't date black women?

[Co-host (Brandon)]

Oh, here we go.

[Caller (Courtney)]

Out of curiosity.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

I knew this was coming up.

[Brandon]

Honestly, I don't know. It's. I've. I have many black friends that are women. I honestly don't know. Just never progressed that far.

[Caller (Courtney)]

25.

[Brandon]

I'm 22. 20. I'll be 22.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

But I'm curious why. There must be some reason why you won't. You haven't dated a black woman.

[Brandon]

I guess all the black women that I know have higher not hires. They have attitudes. I guess it's just the black woman I hang around with, and I'm somebody who doesn't deal well with attitudes.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

What kind of attitude you talking about?

[Brandon]

We call it the snappy finger attitude in the group of friends. Like, you know, the, oh, no, you didn't snap your finger, wag your head attitude.

[Co-host/Panelist]

Mm.

[Brandon]

I don't deal well with attitudes very well. So it's just I'm cool friends with them and all that, but it's just never progressed past that.

[Caller (Courtney)]

Out of all the black women out there, you know, it's only a select few that are like that.

[Co-host/Panelist]

He's kind of.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

Brand is kind of a. And he. He's a kind of a shy dude, and kind of. He's intimidated easily. So I could see if he's had an experience like that.

[Caller (Courtney)]

White women are more. What, Passive?

[Brandon]

I only went to school with mostly white people. Where I grew up, I went to a special school.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

I believe that.

[Host (Burt)]

Yeah.

[Brandon]

You know, I rode a short bus,

[Host (Burt)]

had to wear a helmet occasionally.

[Brandon]

But, no, I went to.

[Caller (Courtney)]

Okay, so let me ask you. I went to a predominantly white high school as well. And then I turned around and I went to a black college. What kind of. What college did you go to?

[Brandon]

I. I go to Kennesaw.

[Caller (Courtney)]

Okay.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

What was that? Condescending. Okay, what was that?

[Caller (Courtney)]

No, no, no, no. It's not like Morehouse or something like that. I'm just. No, I'm not a really quite interesting that. I mean, you know, he's African American, and he has no interest in black women at all.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

You're offended by this?

[Caller (Courtney)]

Not really. I just find it interesting. I mean, you know, I just find it interesting.

[Co-host/Panelist]

She's trying not to scare him off. Cause she's about to get snappy fingers. She's like, hold on. I don't want to get hung up on. So I'm gonna be very methodical as I choose my words. And I find the Kennesaw. If you're not a Morehouse man, you can be a Kennesaw kid. That's okay.

She's having to sit on her hand.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

Courtney, surely this isn't the first time you've ever heard of a black man not dating within his own right.

[Host (Burt)]

No.

[Caller (Courtney)]

I mean, I've never quite understood why, though. What. What was the reason behind all of that?

[Co-host (Brandon)]

So sounds like it's just an attitude thing.

[Brandon]

Yeah, it's just I haven't. I have been attracted to black woman. It's not. I would date one if I met the right girl. It's not about looks for me. It's not about skin color or anything like that. It's just in my. In my life, I've only gone out with white girls.

[Co-host/Panelist]

I find that interesting because I think that your personality would probably need an aggressive woman.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

Yeah, right.

[Co-host/Panelist]

You know, because you're shy, which is okay.

Tell you what to do.

That's all right.

Get over here.

Yeah. A woman to come up to you at a bar.

Yeah.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

I always get. So if. When I'm out with Dolvett, if we're around a group of women and Dolvett will move to the side and go somewhere else, you know, like, a white woman will come up to me and say, oh, he's good looking guy, but I just don't date black guys. And I say, well, why not? And they never have a reason why.

[Brandon]

Yeah, that's.

[Caller (Courtney)]

I've.

[Brandon]

That's my experience in life too, dude.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

That's offensive to me though, like. And I'm white. And I'm like, well, why? I don't know. I just. It's just not my thing. How do you know if you.

[Caller]

I don't know.

[Co-host/Panelist]

So that's her point with Brandon is like, he won't date black girls.

[Brandon]

So she's not saying I won't. Just.

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I haven't.

[Brandon]

It's just. It's never progressed to that with any girl, black girl that I've known.

[Co-host/Panelist]

It would be more of an issue if Brandon were a player and dated lots of girls.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Panelist]

Then it would be more of something to discuss. But, I mean, it's. You can count on one hand, right?

[Brandon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

It's really more accurate to say you don't date any girls, right?

[Co-host/Panelist]

You can count on one hand, you can count on one thumb.

[Host (Burt)]

I don't discriminate.

[Brandon]

I just don't date any girls.

[Co-host/Panelist]

It's all right, Brandon. Dick. Don't let him.

[Host (Burt)]

I mean, we could still go outside

[Brandon]

and I can beat you with a

[Co-host/Panelist]

baton, like, because there's plenty of shy guys out there. So, I mean, you know, I don't want to give you too hard of a time.

[Brandon]

Truth be told, at least I know how to change a tire. Jeff was hanging out in his car.

[Host (Burt)]

I came up trying to change a tire.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

Jeff, do you have white walls? Because he won't change a black T.

[Co-host/Panelist]

Do you know what white walls are?

[Caller]

Hey, what's going on? Hey. I'm just saying, the caller. I want to defend Brandon because the caller that he just spoke with, she. It's not like she attacking him. But I want to say it's kind of cool for a black guy not to date a white woman, because I haven't dated a white woman. I'm 24 years old, and I've never. I'm sorry. I've never dated a black woman.

[Co-host/Panelist]

Okay.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

And for what reason?

[Co-host/Panelist]

That's cool.

[Caller]

Yeah, it's not a problem. It's not really a race thing. It's just. I found any black woman. Yeah, I haven't found any black woman that I was interested in, like, ever. I went to St. Paul's High School. I went to private school all my life. I go to Southern Poly now, and it's just I don't meet a lot of black women that I'm mentally attracted to.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

Is it just. Is it what you grow up with? I mean, it's. So if you're around.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Caller]

What you grow up with and who you're around.

[Brandon]

Okay.

[Caller]

I have tons of black friends because I have tons of black female friends.

[Co-host/Panelist]

I'd love to hear from a white guy who says, I only date black women. You know, that I. A white guy says, you know what? I refuse to date.

[Brandon]

That actually is a novelty that we see. Like, in my group of friends, like, we find it odd every time we see a white guy with a black girl.

[Co-host/Panelist]

Really?

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Brandon)]

It really is a novelty.

[Host (Burt)]

It's like a novelty. It's like, oh, wow. It's like. That's refreshing.

[Co-host/Panelist]

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[Co-host (Brandon)]

I dated black girl before I met Stacy.

[Brandon]

Yeah, see, it's like a novelty thing.

[Co-host/Panelist]

Like a thing you would pick out of a drawer at the dental office.

[Host (Burt)]

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