In this conversation with Dr. Marc Brackett, founder and director of the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence, Karena explores the science of emotional regulation, the RULER framework (Recognizing, Understanding, Labeling, Expressing, and Regulating emotions), and why traditional approaches to handling feelings often fail. Dr. Brackett shares his personal story of childhood trauma, discusses the unique challenges men face with emotional expression, and provides practical strategies for dealing with grief, anxiety, and everyday emotional overwhelm.

How do you actually deal with your feelings instead of suppressing them—and why is emotional intelligence the key to better mental health, relationships, and longevity?

Understanding how to regulate your emotions isn't about fixing or judging them—it's about building the vocabulary and tools to recognize, understand, and work with what you're feeling.

(01:23) The RULER Framework & Navigating Grief Without Judgment

How to be present for others during loss while protecting your own well-being
Becoming an "emotion scientist vs. emotion judge" during difficult times
Emotionally intelligent time travel: recognizing temporary circumstances and taking space when needed

(07:18) Why Men Are Drowning in Suppressed Emotions & The Uncle Marvin Story

Gender differences in emotional expression are socialized, not biological
How "toughen up" culture teaches boys to deny and suppress feelings
Dr. Brackett's childhood sexual abuse, bullying, and why suppression creates emotional debt

(15:42) From Trauma to Yale: Building Emotional Vocabulary & Understanding Anxiety

How childhood pain sparked Dr. Brackett's career researching emotional intelligence
Why precise emotional vocabulary matters
Building emotional granularity to better understand your internal state

(27:35) Realistic Optimism, Toxic Positivity & Six Strategies for Dealing With Feelings

Why "everything will be fine" is dangerous
Learn to deactivate your nervous system through meditation and breathwork
The biology of regulation: sleep, nutrition, and movement directly impact your ability to manage emotions

(38:46) The Dealing With Feeling Wheel: Monthly Check-Ins for Emotional Health

Monitoring self-talk, breathing practices, reflection, and social connection
Assessing sleep quality, nutrition habits, and movement patterns
Why all these elements work together for mental health and longevity

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