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Tom
Welcome back. It's another Bob and Tom Extra. This is Christopher. Not only is the Bob and Tom show live every weekday morning, but every afternoon we'll give you a little extra. In case you missed anything on the big show today, a segment from the Bob tribute show. It's coming up in just a minute.
Christopher
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Tom
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Todd
there have been products designed to help smokers to quit. Nicotine gums, pills, patches.
Tom
But what about us drunks? Yeah, what about those of us who are alcohol? Those of us with drinking problems?
Todd
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Tom
Again, you gotta be me.
Todd
I know it sounds Too good to be true. But if you're trying to kick that nasty booze habit, don't go cold turkey. Merely pop in a piece of liquor red gum when you feel yourself having a craving or the DTs.
Tom
Thanks for that glowing report, Todd. That's great news from the Midwest region. Now Phil, tell us what's happening with your sales results. Oh God, I can't concentrate. My hands are shaking. I'm gonna get canned for sure.
Todd
Luckily, Phil remembered his licorette gum.
Tom
Oh yeah, the gum, Phil. Um, well, let's see.
Todd
I'll be the first to admit that this quarter we're a little upside down and.
Tom
Woo hoo hoo.
Christopher
Hey, let's go to Vegas.
Tom
I'm driving.
Todd
Phil.
Bob
Phil, are you okay?
Tom
I bet you got nothing nipples the size of paper plate. You want to meet my junior salesman of the month, baby?
Todd
Oh my God.
Tom
What do you think about that, eh?
Todd
That's licorette gum. You see, thanks to Licorette's unique combination of all natural ingredients. Coca leaves, morphine, Dexedrine, sodium pentothal, a mild opiate and a tiny drop of redson, Licorette imitates the sensation of alcohol, the relaxed feelings and the uninhibited attitude that allows you to be your best and do your best, all without the risks associated with drinking alcohol.
Becky
Thanks to this licorice gum, I ain't
Todd
had a DUI in over two and a half years.
Tom
What was that?
Todd
Liquor fountain. Comes in several exciting new familiar flavors. Spearmint julep, Juicy fruit, rum punch, Dentin and tonic. Make mine a double mint, Long island iced tea, berry Blackjack and coke and
Tom
Jim Beeman's iced liquor at gum. I haven't had a drink in three years. Or a job. Hey baby, take off your top.
Todd
That's licorice gum. Side effects may include blackouts, missing time, explosive diarrhea, dry heaves and tooth decay.
Tom
The difference is we only got three fingers in a bowl of bowl and waitress. How about another six pack of this gum for my new best friend? Hey, take your top off.
Todd
Now some more Bob and Tom. This is Bob and Tom Extra.
Tom
We are going to spend our morning talking about all the great stuff that Bob did. And we just want to, in his honor, have the tone of this show light and lively the way he would. He would want it to be. So there are a lot of, A lot of great moments both on and off the air. And as I, as I said I've said a couple times over the weekend, Bob had a great third act. You know that old phrase.
Bob
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Tom
Americans done it. Well, he did. It was after the Bob And Tom show 10 years ago, more than 10 years ago, Bob retired and it became the. The Bob and Becky Show. Or as I think he likes to call it, the Becky and Bob Show. Let's get this straight. Who's in charge? So he had a great. A great decade.
Bob
That beautiful Airstream traveled all over the country. Yeah.
Tom
And I have a funny story about that, about when I met Bob. It was up in Harbor Springs, Michigan. And the. The background of the story is Bob had been touring for several years with a group called the Young Americans. And the Young Americans were kind of sort of like an up with People. Remember that? A bunch of young singers, dancers, actors, actresses, super talented.
Christopher
And David Bowie sings about them.
Tom
Right, Exactly. Young America. That's them. And they would put on. They put on plays. But their summer home was Boyne Highlands, which is a golf and ski resort and near Harbor Springs. And not, I would imagine, not at the same time, really, the golfing, in the skiing.
Christopher
Right. Like ski. Is there ski season, then golf season?
Tom
You know, sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes they do crisscross. You'd be surprised. You get that late snow. Open up the chairlift, Lloyd. We're going for it. But Bob had been driving around the country for more than three years, and he got to Harbor Springs. And if you've ever been up there, Harbor Springs in August, you say, wait a minute. Why am I living anywhere else than this place? It's gorgeous. It's beautiful. And to put it in rock and roll terms, they say that the Bob Seger song Fire Lake is about standing in Cross Village looking across at the Mackinaw Straits and stuff. Anyway, Bob and landed there, and just by chance, I met him and we ended up working together. But the point of the story is, I could remember one time saying to Bob, oh, you know, one of these days, I'm gonna. I'm gonna get an RV and I'm gonna drive across the country. And Bob goes, I have driven across this country so many times. There is no effing way. And I'm being kind here. I will ever get in a bus or a van, I will never, ever do that again. Gets married to Becky and spends 10 years driving around the country. So you tell me what happened. I'm not.
Bob
There's no way in hell you would drive an RV around the country.
Tom
That's exactly correct.
Christopher
When you two met, it was at a bar, right?
Tom
Yeah. I had gone to see the Jay Giles band. I was. I had quit My radio job in Florida. I had to have pretty major surgery. Oh. And so I went up to the university hospital.
Becky
Was it your penis?
Tom
Was it your penis? Was it your penis? I donated to Locks of Love. It's a subsidiary. I gave them an extra few inches. No, I.
Christopher
Very generous.
Tom
I was. I went to. Went up to Harbor Springs, went to see the Jay Giles band. What was the name of that? At a place called Castle Farms. It was sort of a. One of those outdoors, you know, shed type venues.
Becky
And by the way, how old were you when you realized Jay Giles was the guitar player and it just wasn't like a Led Zeppelin thing.
Tom
Yeah, it was confusing.
Becky
I thought it was Jay Giles, like everybody did.
Tom
Nobody. Yeah, Peter Wolf talks about that. That everyone thinks his name is Jay Guy. In any event, on the way back, I stopped at the Bar harbor, which is right there by the pier in Harbor Springs, and I heard Bob. There was a guy. There was a pool table right there. I heard Bob. Bob, who I didn't know was behind the bar working. And I heard him say something about. I think it was, hey, have they fixed the cart machine, whatever. Some radio term, Right. I said, are you in radio? And even. Yeah, I work at this radio station. Said, hey, I. I've got to get another job. Can I come over and look at the trade magazines? So there's a magazine. There was a magazine called Radio and Records. Yep. Which, incidentally, Bob and I, 10 years later, would win their top prize. I didn't know that. Neither did he. I. I couldn't afford the magazine. So when I walked in there to look at the trade magazine, I met the station owner and about two weeks later ended up running the place, which was a joke. And that place was a. I've told this story a thousand times, but it's true. It's like that old skit, the FM radio was. They. They called the format Beautiful Music. And it was on these big reels of tape. And beautiful music is what it was. Elevator.
Bob
Elevator music music.
Tom
Kind of. I know all those terms are no longer even clear to people. It was like the Beatles songs played by the Holly Ridge strings.
Bob
Yes.
Tom
No vocals, all instrumental. Yeah, just put you to sleep music. But. And then you would put the brakes, the, the. The talking breaks, the commercials and stuff. You'd put them on these carts and then there was this big, huge machine that would rotate them automatically when it worked, which was not all the time. I remember getting a call one night from a cop friend of mine going, do you realize you've just played Three hours of commercials overnight. Oh, sorry. Went over and adjusted the machine. Sponsors loved it.
Bob
Yeah, no joke.
Tom
But the thing is, you would go,
Bob
I can't imagine you running.
Tom
Oh, it was terrible.
Becky
You know, if it wasn't for Tom, I would be voted worst person in charge.
Tom
But the, but Bob and I would have to do the, the FM voice. You'd record them all. You'd record all the breaks. But you had to use your mellifluous, serious Michigan's beautiful north weather and talk like this.
Becky
Exactly right.
Tom
Tom was Bob the morning guy when you met him? No, no, he was the afternoon guy. But the, the comical thing was the other, the AM station, this was just like WKRP. The AM station was kind of an upbeat sort of top 40 esque thing. So then you'd go in there and talk in a whole different way.
Christopher
That eventually kind of switched, didn't it?
Bob
Oh, yeah, yeah, it was.
Tom
And it was, it was really funny to do both those things.
Becky
Yeah, FM was an afterthought.
Christopher
Yeah.
Becky
When I first got into radio, so.
Tom
Yeah. But our competition, there were two great stations up there. One was called KHQ and the other was wjml. I think they were both a hundred thousand watts. And the JML tower was on top of the aforementioned Boyne Highlands. And the KHQ tower, I believe is the tallest structure in the Midwest. Oh, you could see, you could see that tower everywhere. So there was some pretty good radio going on.
Bob
So you didn't start at jml?
Becky
No.
Bob
Oh, what were the call letters?
Tom
W. WMBN and wwpz. Huh.
Christopher
Did you guys decide, hey, we've got, we've got a pretty good relationship, we should pitch ourselves as a, as a two man show or did somebody go, hey, I'd like to put you two together.
Becky
That's an interesting story as well.
Tom
Yeah, it's kind of funny. But a couple quick stories on the am, Bob and I would do a crossover, they call it, or he'd be finishing his shift and I'd be starting mine. We'd go back and forth.
Bob
So you did nights?
Tom
No, at 1. On the weekends. Well, see, we were. You, we were working six, seven days a week. Oh yeah. And of course we were getting paid by the hour. Then they realized, oh, wait a minute, instead of paying them, whatever it was, $3 an hour, we can put them on salary and they can work 70 hours. I like to go full time, but it was fun. But I remember this. I'll see if I can figure out how to describe this on the radio. There was the main room, the AM room was fairly small radio studio. You've seen a million radio studios. And there was a window to the left going to the outside and then there was a window, straightforward going to a very small little booth, about the size of a phone booth. Although that's not a relatable anymore anyway. Like the size of a small closet.
Bob
Sure.
Tom
And that. And there was a microphone in there
Bob
for the news guy.
Tom
Yeah. And there were no switches or anything. It was. You'd switch it in the main room. And so I was the news reader. Hey, no laughing. And in those days, pre, pre digital screens, everything came in news wise, came on a Teletype. Imagine a 200 foot roll of paper going through a typewriter. And you've seen this in the movies and you walk up and you'd rip off the paper and read it. So I was doing the news in the little booth. Bob introduced me, left the microphone on and then I'm reading the news holding these long sheets of paper, whatever it was, news and sports. And Bob comes in from behind me and sets the news on fire. So you can see the gravitas that I brought to the news. I wish I had a tape of me flapping.
Becky
The history was made.
Tom
Yeah, but to answer your question, Josh, Bob and I would do a lot of crossover stuff. And then eventually we did make a tape which we sent to jml, the big station a couple miles away. And the guy that was running it hated us. So nothing ever happened. Well, he ended up. He ended up quitting the boss over there and the new guy was cleaning out his desk. A guy named Mike Benson was cleaning out his desk because he was the new program director. He found the cassette and he hired us.
Christopher
Oh, wow.
Tom
So dumb luck. Wow. And then it went on. It went on from there, but Bob and I had. Bob technically was the music director at JML at. No, over the other station. Yeah, the music director of J L met a sad end that I won't talk about.
Bob
Okay, well let's.
Becky
Didn't somebody in the market send your tape out? So eventually they didn't want you guys there anymore?
Tom
Yeah, there was a. What was it called? There was a convention. I think it was called the Superstars convention. There was a big radio convention every year and one of the groups would, unbeknownst to us, they would have a meeting called, you know, get the talent out of your market or whatever.
Bob
Really?
Tom
Yeah. Oh yeah. So the idea was if. If there was someone good in your city, you'd bring a tape of them and see if someone would hire them away. Ah, weird. Which we didn't know we did. We had no idea.
Christopher
Yeah, I mean, it's a flattering list to be.
Bob
I guess.
Tom
We had no idea. And I gotta. I have told this story a thousand times. When I got off the air one day, and in those days there was no voicemail, but I got off here, and there was a stack of phone messages, I think. I think I wanted. I've always wanted to say 18 of them from radio stations all over the country.
Bob
Oh, wow.
Tom
But this is weird. Who are these people? And then we. This was the closest place we came here, and that was it.
Bob
Get the talent out of the market. Be very talented. I've been here 40 years.
Tom
Yeah. And I believe the. It was a station in Kalkaska, Michigan. A beautiful name. And I eventually would meet the guy that did that.
Bob
Did you thank him?
Tom
Yeah, I said, hey, that was cool. That was nice. But you literally met Bob. He was working at a bar talking to someone else, and you overheard him, and then you stepped in if the car machine wasn't broken. I've been making fun of you for bothering people at restaurants for years. I mean, it gave you a career. Why would you ever stop doing that? I'm so sorry for being critical about that. The other funny thing is, Bob had three jobs up there. He was. He was singing solo in a bar at Boyne Highlands. He was kind of a Jimmy Buffett sort of there, and he was tending bar and he was working at the radio station. But when he applied to the radio station, he didn't know that the DJs and the engineers were one of the same because he'd been running sound and lights, the young Americans, sometimes when he wasn't on stage. So he went over there and said, hey, you need someone to engineer the sound? And they said, well, you have to talk.
Bob
Oh, really? That's how.
Tom
That's. We were just talking about this a couple weeks ago. He was saying. He was saying. Oh, he just thought. Because you seen in the movies they
Bob
have the engineering guys talking.
Tom
The guy behind the glass. Yeah, it hasn't been that way since, I think, Marconi.
Bob
Well, the bigger markets, it was because they had, you know, union rules and stuff.
Tom
Well, in any event. So then the. The people there, when he came in, they said, what? Can you talk? And he goes, yeah. So they had him read some news copy and you're hired.
Bob
Cool.
Tom
So that's how he got into it. He had no intention of. And. And by way of background, I think that's why our show always worked because neither of us had any idea what we were doing. So we just did what we thought was funny and preach.
Becky
And it worked exactly right.
Tom
We didn't really base it on anything because we didn't know. And God knows I had. My mother thought it was so funny because I'd never gotten up before 10 o' clock in my life. When I was a senior in college, I seriously debated taking a fifth year rather than going to classes on Friday. My sophomore and junior year, I brilliantly engineered it so I only had classes on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Nothing before 11. Whoa. It was in New York City. I had other things to do. Yes, by going to school. But yeah, that was. That's kind of the background of how that all worked. And as I said earlier, he went off the. The last version. I guess it was technically chemo or whatever it was the last. Just a couple months ago we said I'm done with this. So the point being his final couple of months were a lot more positive. He had some great spots in between, but also some real difficult times. So it was, it was great and gratifying that, that he was feeling, feeling better and he was able to join me on stage. We were given kindly the Kurt Vonnegut Humor award a few months ago and Bob and I were able to be together on stage for the last time. Which was sweet. Anyway, I'm gonna start.
Becky
You're good.
Tom
Tear up. So good chick, do something.
Becky
I'd like to entertain you with my soft shoe routine, please. Okay, we've got email of course coming out of our ears this morning about Bob and they are all pretty much this email from James in Oklahoma. Dear Bob and Tom show. I am wearing an LA Dodgers cap today.
Tom
A lot of that.
Christopher
Yeah, Ace is wearing his and.
Tom
Good choice, Ace.
Bob
I have one, it's tan and I brought it, but I was afraid to put it on because it's not blue.
Christopher
Doesn't count.
Bob
That's what I thought.
Tom
Well, I. I beg to differ. Of course it counts. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Bob
What?
Tom
Boo. Oh, Becky was. Wanted to show me something before I left on Friday, which was Bob's closet. How do I describe this? It has the. The history of hats.
Becky
Yeah, I bet it does.
Tom
And he has an LA Dodger hat and a numerous in a number of colors including the black LA Dodger cap he wore for his wedding.
Bob
Oh, that's right, he did.
Tom
So you're okay wearing a tan one.
Becky
And he's. He told me once I bought him by the case.
Tom
Yeah.
Christopher
Oh, really?
Becky
Dodgers. Same place the Dodgers got.
Tom
And he liked. He liked the fitted cap.
Bob
Sure.
Tom
Without the thing in the.
Becky
And he wore it because he was a tribute to his father.
Tom
Yeah. His father had worked for the Dodgers organization. And I'll paraphrase here. This is probably indelicate, but what. What am I going to do here? Bob. Only Bob would never wear the hat backwards. Unless. Huh?
Christopher
Ah.
Bob
All right.
Tom
Okay.
Becky
Two things.
Christopher
Unless he was dying.
Todd
Two things.
Tom
Sorry. I'm sorry, Becky.
Becky
If he was catching baseball, I think Becky might know. If he was half of a battery, he'd turn his. Turn his hat around and then the other one.
Tom
Yeah. And that's my philosophy.
Becky
Enjoying a nice seafood dinner.
Tom
Don't wear your cap. That's it for another Bob and Tom show. Extra. Catch us on itunes. Go Google play and stitcher for Bob and Tom. Extra. This is Christopher. Take care, everybody. The Hammer alley podcast. An 80s flashback mockumentary.
Todd
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Tom
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Todd
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Tom
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Episode: B&T Extra: A Segment from the Bob Tribute Show
Date: May 27, 2026
Theme: Celebrating Bob – Memories, Laughter, and the Origins of The Bob & Tom Show
This special B&T Extra offers a heartfelt and humorous tribute to Bob, co-founder of The Bob & Tom Show. The episode brings together Tom, Christopher, Becky, Todd, and Bob himself, as they reminisce about Bob’s career, share stories from the show’s early days, and celebrate his legacy. The mood is intentionally light and lively, reflecting Bob’s own approach to life and radio, with plenty of jokes, inside stories, and affectionate ribbing.
This episode is a rich tapestry of behind-the-scenes stories, classic B&T banter, and genuine affection for Bob—a beloved radio legend whose curiosity, humor, and generosity shaped The Bob & Tom Show and everyone around him. The tone remains lively and funny throughout, interspersed with moments of true sentiment and gratitude, making it a fitting tribute both for longtime fans and newcomers curious about radio's golden age and its unsung heroes.