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Christopher (Producer/Host)
Welcome back. It's another Bob and Tom extra. This is Christopher. Not only is the Bob and Tom show live every weekday morning, but every afternoon. We'll give you a little extra in case you missed anything on the big show today. Comedian Pat McGann coming up in just a second.
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Musical Performer
Well, I'm bad right too I'll be 17 in a month or so I live fast just like a rocket New driver's permit in my back pocket Rev my engine at the light Smoke and squeal as my tires ignite and the whole world knows exactly what that says about me I don't buy my own tires, no, no, no, no Now I don't buy my own tires.
Bob Kevoian
These white.
Musical Performer
Walls rolling I'm a grocery getter I did not buy them on my own credit no Michelin man ever saw a dollar of my cash money where the road meets a rubber I've been riding in the G ride Hoopty Jack Never mind the baby seat in the back I'm a rebel on the run I'm a man with a mission I can stare past 11 if I get permission Slide the stop sign and ride your tail Pass on the shoulder throwing gravel like hell the base is pumping and the whole world knows all about me I don't pay for insurance either no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I don't buy my own Michelin, Dunlop Funeral and Hoosier Continental, Sears, Arizona, Cooper, Good, Rich, Goodyear, Bridgestone, Pirelli, Yokohama General, Firestone, O Kelly I don't buy them I don't buy my own.
Josh Arnold
I.
Musical Performer
Don'T buy my own Buy my own tire.
Josh Arnold
The Bob and Tom show is still.
Tom Griswold
Trying to wake up. In the meantime, more Bob and Tom extra.
Pat McGann
We are joined by comedian Pat McGann.
Tom Griswold
Hey, good morning. How are you?
Pat McGann
Good morning. How are you? I'm doing well.
Tom Griswold
Good to be here. Great to see you, Pat. Yeah, good to see you guys.
Pat McGann
Pat is cultivating the, my look. The tracksuit look. Yep, I, the track jacket look. I like that.
Josh Arnold
I, I, It's a good look.
Pat McGann
It, it's stripes on my sleeves.
Josh Arnold
It's relaxed, but in no way sloppy.
Pat McGann
Yes. It's not sloppy. It does. We do look more or less put together.
Josh Arnold
Yeah, I guess.
Pat McGann
I think Al Jackson started this. I don't know.
Oscar
Not like me with my hoodie.
Tom Griswold
It protects the pitting out too, doesn't it?
Pat McGann
Oh, yeah.
Tom Griswold
That's one of the reasons I had to layer up.
Josh Arnold
Lot of you're a pitter.
Pat McGann
Lot of oh, you over you. Well, tell. Let's tell our story about the super pitter.
Oscar
Super pitter.
Pat McGann
Who is Tommy Jonigan?
Josh Arnold
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Pat McGann
He sweats a lot on stage.
Josh Arnold
Yes.
Pat McGann
I don't know how much stage he's on anymore, but yeah, he had to wear. Didn't he have to wear feminine hygiene pads under his.
Josh Arnold
I think he did try that.
Pat McGann
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was something else. It was something else, Pat. I don't. He would have pitted right through the tracksuit, actually.
Tom Griswold
Right.
Pat McGann
Yeah.
Josh Arnold
So, Jeff, you're a sweater. Oh, I'm horrible. Are you a sweat towel comedian? Do you bring one of those? You bring you what you do? Yeah, me and Cedric the Entertainer bring a big bath towel on stage.
Pat McGann
That's nice. That's really nice.
Josh Arnold
Do you reference it when you use it? Yeah, I mean, I try to make some stupid, like, silly reference to it, but whatever. The current president, you know, like, I'm sweating up here worse than Biden trying to give a speech. You know, some stupid. No matter who the current president, whoever it is, yes. That's. That's who I throw under the bus.
Pat McGann
Pat, are you. What about your personal life? You married otherwise? You got kids?
Tom Griswold
Divorced.
Pat McGann
Divorced, yes. Did we.
Tom Griswold
Did we know that from last reborn?
Josh Arnold
Was it kind of the last time we saw you? Maybe it was.
Pat McGann
You were going through.
Tom Griswold
Yeah. Maybe I was telling you in between.
Josh Arnold
Yeah. During commercials.
Pat McGann
Yeah. It might not have been.
Tom Griswold
Yeah.
Josh Arnold
It's public.
Pat McGann
Yeah.
Tom Griswold
Yeah, it is.
Pat McGann
So you are divorced, huh?
Tom Griswold
I am. And via Zoom.
Josh Arnold
Oh, yeah.
Pat McGann
You got divorced on Zoom.
Tom Griswold
Yeah. Can you believe that?
Pat McGann
I can't.
Tom Griswold
Like, am I divorced? I mean, I am, but it's like, can we be, like, a little bit more. Can we dress it up? Shouldn't we be on teams or something? That would feel more official.
Oscar
You're not on. You're not a team anymore.
Tom Griswold
That is.
Oscar
You can't be on teams.
Tom Griswold
That's a real thing. The Zoom divorce. And it is, like, energy because I got in there early, and there's, you know, chatter in the squares. One guy was, like, throwing a party, like, just, you know, screaming, like, I'm getting divorced today. His lawyer's like, mute yourself, Alejandro. Mute yourself.
Pat McGann
Are you one of those single dads on the weekend with the kids or.
Tom Griswold
It's even split. So I have them. You know, my days are Mondays, Tuesdays, and then every other weekend. Okay. So it's. It's good. I like the schedule. It's a lot easier to parent when you have time off.
Josh Arnold
Yeah.
Pat McGann
When you know, there's. There's an end, you're not there for the duration.
Tom Griswold
Yeah.
Pat McGann
Like World War II. They were there until it was over, you know? Yeah.
Tom Griswold
This is like stepping out. But I get a lot of time with my kids because, you know, they're busy. I get, you know, playing sports. I got one in hockey, fourth grade, had a tryout. Can you believe that? Hit a tryout.
Pat McGann
Fourth grade, try out to make the hockey team. He's in fourth grade.
Tom Griswold
You know what the tryout was? Can you come up with $2,500?
Josh Arnold
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tom Griswold
That was a tryout. He came home. He's like, dad, I made the team. He's like, I know. Got the fraud alert from Chase. I replied, one, you're on the squad.
Josh Arnold
Is that travel hockey?
Tom Griswold
It is light travel.
Pat McGann
So, like, I've heard that hockey is the most expensive youth.
Josh Arnold
Hockey is crazy.
Pat McGann
Your children can get.
Josh Arnold
It's kind of unfortunately expensive.
Pat McGann
Yeah.
Tom Griswold
Yeah. It's kind of ridiculous.
Pat McGann
Yeah.
Tom Griswold
And it's like, you know, now as a parent, you're on the team too. You gotta like dive all. You gotta manage the schedule. You join a group text. Every team comes with a group text.
Oscar
Yeah, that's fun.
Tom Griswold
This thing is blowing up more than my family group text.
Pat McGann
Sure.
Tom Griswold
Like fourth of July. It was lighting up like, hey, who's that? Grandma and grandpa? Like, no, it's the hockey team. Yeah, just thinking about you guys too.
Pat McGann
We're thankful we're on the team.
Tom Griswold
Yeah, there's always someone in there over sharing. Like, Brooks can't make practice tonight. My mother in law had a stroke. We're gonna be in ICU till we see things through. Go Knights. Yeah. So it's all takes over your life. But it's good. I'm happy and I think the kids are doing well.
Pat McGann
So. Can I ask how old you are?
Tom Griswold
I am. I will be. I just turned 49 in May. Okay, so knocking on the door.
Pat McGann
And how old are the kids?
Tom Griswold
My daughter just turned 13. Thirteen. My son just turned 12. And then I got a guy who will be 11 in September.
Josh Arnold
Okay. All right.
Tom Griswold
Yeah.
Josh Arnold
That was. Was it your daughter that was doing gymnastics? Was it.
Tom Griswold
She was like way back.
Josh Arnold
Oh, okay.
Tom Griswold
Which was like ridiculous, you know, she couldn't even do. I don't know. It's like, why are we teaching them gymnastics when they're, you know, three, four years old? Like they don't even know how to, you know, tie their shoes. Like you can't do a somersault.
Pat McGann
I don't know.
Tom Griswold
I used to have a bit about the gymnastics thing, but it was a long time ago before the divorce and now I can't remember.
Josh Arnold
Sorry about that.
Tom Griswold
You're like, I'm doing gymnastics right now.
Pat McGann
You know, I've been divorced my sweating. I've been divorced three times.
Tom Griswold
Have you really?
Pat McGann
Yeah.
Tom Griswold
Oh, my God.
Pat McGann
Christie's been divorced three.
Oscar
Three times.
Tom Griswold
Oh, that's Oscar.
Pat McGann
You've been divorced once?
Josh Arnold
Twice.
Pat McGann
Twice. I didn't know you were twice two, Josh.
Josh Arnold
No, I've never been married, so.
Pat McGann
Really?
Josh Arnold
Yeah.
Oscar
So you're the smart one.
Pat McGann
Hang on, I'll take this, everybody. How nice for you.
Josh Arnold
It has been pretty nice.
Tom Griswold
Yeah.
Josh Arnold
My money has been mine.
Oscar
Yeah.
Tom Griswold
You should be running the support group then, for all of us here.
Josh Arnold
Yeah, they don't like to hear any love anything really.
Pat McGann
I love everything about my. Shut up. A good friend will tell you.
Josh Arnold
Yes, yes.
Oscar
Where do you live, Pat?
Tom Griswold
Chicago.
Oscar
Oh, okay.
Tom Griswold
Yeah.
Oscar
There's a big pool there.
Tom Griswold
Yeah, I mean, I love it. I mean, you know, and people. Are you dating trash about. I am. Yes. I am dating someone and I Think it's serious all of a sudden? Because, like, the texts have changed. Oh, you know, like, I used to get, like, selfies or, like, a link, like, hey, we should go here. Now I'm getting like, hey, watch this video on how to listen. Here's a reel about emotional intelligence. I don't know how to respond to those texts. Right. I always just, like, heard it, like, click the heart and then, like. So true.
Pat McGann
Okay.
Josh Arnold
Yeah. If you start texting back. I know, right? A lot.
Pat McGann
Okie doke.
Tom Griswold
The exclamation point's great, too. Like, oh, yeah, I'm with you.
Pat McGann
You've said that.
Josh Arnold
Did you date? Kind of play the field, if you will, before you got this. This new relationship?
Tom Griswold
Yeah, a little bit. You know, that was just kind of. And then I met.
Pat McGann
Were you dating while you were married? Is that why you had to divorce? Is that what happened?
Tom Griswold
Yeah, that's how it all.
Pat McGann
Oh, okay.
Tom Griswold
No, I was. You know, when you're kind of getting out of it, you're not really thinking, like, I'm a. I want to be with someone exclusively right away.
Pat McGann
You know?
Tom Griswold
I mean, I used to do a bit about that, you know, because when I was married, it was like, hey, you wish you were. You think you're gonna marry. You know, make. Meet someone just like me is like. You know, it's like, yeah, that's what I want. When I get divorced, I just wanna. Same storyline, different cast.
Josh Arnold
A reboot.
Pat McGann
This is where you yell at me for no reason. Okay, so what have you been doing? You've been on the road, You've been out there, You've been. You're dating, you've got kids everywhere. You're playing hockey, playing hockey, traveling.
Tom Griswold
I just got back from. I did take a week off. Went to.
Pat McGann
So comedians who are on tour do take vacations, right?
Josh Arnold
Yes.
Tom Griswold
Okay.
Oscar
All right.
Tom Griswold
Yeah. A little getaway. Yeah. Well, my. My parents actually rented a place in Michigan, like a lake house.
Pat McGann
All right.
Tom Griswold
So I went up there, which is great, because my parents are getting older, though, which is kind of tough to see, you know? And I know they're getting older because I go to their condo and it's very hot. That's when, you know, when it gets, like, balmy in the habitat. You're getting near the credits.
Pat McGann
That's true. Close to the credits.
Tom Griswold
And I give him crap about it, too. Like, what is going on? Like, are you typing your age into the thermostat? You have a wrestling match this weekend. You trying to sweat it out? You got to make weight that's all about. Yeah, they just get a little.
Pat McGann
Yeah, I know. I. I'm colder.
Oscar
Are you that.
Pat McGann
Yeah, I think so.
Oscar
Warmer.
Pat McGann
71 or 69.
Tom Griswold
Okay.
Oscar
Okay.
Pat McGann
What do you. What's your thermostat set at?
Oscar
70.
Pat McGann
70.
Oscar
Yeah.
Pat McGann
See, I don't like even numbers. That's my problem.
Oscar
I don't like odd numbers. That's so. There you go.
Pat McGann
There you go. That explains a lot.
Tom Griswold
What about the temperature?
Pat McGann
Okay, so did you do anything with your parents, like a picnic or went out to the Michigan nightlife or. I'm so sick of Michigan I could spit.
Tom Griswold
Yeah, we just hung out, you know, which is nice because usually, like, historically, my parents took us on vacations. We were here, like, learn things. That's what our summer, you know, we would go, like, Williamsburg, Virginia, you know, that would be like our spring break, Colonial America. And then you go back to school, try and compete with other kids, come back from, like, Disneyland, you know, trying to tell you a story about Space Mountain. Like, hey, can I show you guys how to churn butter in some yarn?
Pat McGann
Well, a lot of people have given me grief for this in my childhood vacations, but I didn't think it was weird when we were doing it. And I still don't think it's weird. Maybe because I lived it. But for our vacations as a family, there were only the three of us, my mom and dad and me. We would go to neighboring towns, laundromats, and do our laundry. And then we would drive. We would drive back home. That is a true.
Oscar
So you only did a date?
Pat McGann
A day trip. A day trip, if you will, like.
Oscar
On a tank of gas, like one.
Pat McGann
At the beginning of the week, one at the end of the week, and nothing showy.
Josh Arnold
Would you have lunch at a town restaurant?
Tom Griswold
Yep, we do that in between cycles or.
Pat McGann
I don't know why people continue to make fun, fun of me because of this.
Josh Arnold
I think it was just asking.
Tom Griswold
I thought you brought it up for that.
Pat McGann
No, no, you're right. And, yeah, I would play in the laundry baskets.
Josh Arnold
I. I had to spend some time at the laundry mat this weekend.
Pat McGann
Is that right?
Josh Arnold
And, man, there's nothing that makes you feel like you haven't accomplished what you're supposed to. Then being at the laundromat and being probably the only English speaker, actually. Let's just say if you worked for ICE and you needed, like, the laundromat.
Pat McGann
Some sort of quota.
Josh Arnold
Yeah. I mean, man, people that just got here yesterday, and I'd been here my whole life, and we're doing laundry at the same place right next to each other. Like, I haven't succeeded.
Tom Griswold
I'm surprised it didn't feel like vacation.
Pat McGann
That's what I feel like.
Josh Arnold
I should have brought the kids.
Pat McGann
I didn't even think if you'd taken me, it would feel like vacation to me.
Josh Arnold
I never minded the laundromat when I had to do it. I never minded it. I. You got all. You got four loads done in one hour?
Oscar
Pretty much.
Josh Arnold
Or two hours.
Oscar
Yes. Just sit there and read a book while you're.
Josh Arnold
It wasn't terrible. Well, I was doing the whole family's laundry and most of it was lady clothes. Okay. And a couple of the gentlemen watching fold clothes, I think thought that I. That's how I roll. Like, I am a cross dresser who was just doing my laundry on the weekend instead of just, oh, that man has a wife and a family. They went cross dress.
Tom Griswold
When you wash your wife's clothes, that's.
Josh Arnold
Yeah. 7:00 on a Saturday morning was all men. Yeah. Okay. At the laundry, no women. Which was awesome. And no offense, Chris, and. But yeah, it was all single men and me.
Tom Griswold
Huh. So does it change, like, when you're making out with your wife? It's like, hey, I'm not gonna rip this shirt off. I'm gonna lay this out. You probably wear this.
Josh Arnold
Yeah. You. You have. You. You're invested in it. Yeah. Fold that property. I said the word slap. Yeah. Which is very young. You must have gotten that from your kids. That's a very young term.
Tom Griswold
Oh, that's how they talk now. They come up with good ones. I will give them that. You know, but it's. They have a different language and they're not going to have like a final deathbed saying. I've been talking about, like, this generation, when they check out years from now, it's going to be like, hey, what did he say before he passed? Like, he didn't say anything. He texted me a meme.
Josh Arnold
Yeah.
Tom Griswold
And then he was struggling to open his eyes. Was just like, yeet, six, seven.
Josh Arnold
What's six, seven mean?
Tom Griswold
I don't know. That's another thing that I'm hearing from my kids. They say six, seven all the time. I think it's from a song, but I don't know what it means.
Josh Arnold
Okay. I haven't heard that one yet.
Tom Griswold
That's why it's fun watching them try and talk with, like, with my parents, when my parents come over. Like, I don't know if you ever get stuck between those generations, you're really trying to keep all of them off their screens. Like, hey, mom, you want to stop coloring on that for a minute? But when my mom is trying to talk to my grandson or her grandson, my son, it's like she needs a glossary, you know?
Josh Arnold
Are you the translator?
Tom Griswold
Yeah. Try to. She tries to engage, like, hey, how's summer going? He's like, bro, you know, it's like, yeah, buddy, come on, we gotta.
Pat McGann
Like, it's your grandmother.
Josh Arnold
Yeah. I asked my son the other day if he had ever drank alcohol. He goes, bruh, I'm 18. Of course I drank alcohol. I'm like, bruh, I'm not a bra. You can't bra your dad if anything. Yeah. You don't bra your dad.
Tom Griswold
Yeah. I'm literally not your brother.
Josh Arnold
Yeah.
Musical Performer
I don't know much, but here's what I think. Certain females in the world ain't nothing but stank they got rich husbands they're bored all the time they want you to covet their large behind Evil women will try to wreck your home they'll hit on you when your wife is gone they're just like dogs hungry for bone Evil women try to wreck her own I saw one on the treadmill down at the gym her hips were wide and her waist was thin I saw a bead of sweat roll down the small of her back she had ten pounds of baloney and a eight pound sack Evil women try to wreck huh? They'll hit on you when your wife is gone they're just like dogs Hundred fall bone Evil women try to wreck you when she wakes up in the morning she wants to do wrong she sprays on some perfume and she puts on a thong she puts water in and often played at Sunday school She slept with the deacon and the preacher too Evil women will try to wreck your home they'll hit on you when your wife is gone and just like dogs hungry for phone Even with me try to. Rick, go home.
Yeah.
Christopher (Producer/Host)
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Date: August 28, 2025
Host: The BOB & TOM Show
Guest: Pat McGann
This “Bob & Tom Extra” episode features a lively, comedic conversation with Chicago-based comedian Pat McGann. The group—Tom Griswold, Josh Arnold, Oscar, and others—riff on divorce, single parenting, youth sports, generational differences, nostalgic vacations, laundromat memories, and the quirks of modern dating. The show blends quick-witted banter, personal anecdotes, and plenty of playful roasting in the show’s trademark relaxed, irreverent tone.
Timestamps: 04:00–05:35
The group jokes about Pat's fashionable tracksuit/track jacket.
Talk turns to sweating on stage, with references to comedian Tommy Jonigan’s notorious “super pitter” status.
Timestamps: 05:35–08:37
Tom shares that he's recently divorced—done via Zoom:
Tom details his parenting schedule:
The group jokes about how the limited time makes single parenting more tolerable (World War II analogies included!).
Timestamps: 07:00–08:15
Timestamps: 08:37–09:21
Timestamps: 09:21–11:42
Pat and Oscar trade divorce war stories.
Tom opens up about post-divorce dating. He notes a shift in his new girlfriend's texts:
Timestamps: 11:43–12:57
Timestamps: 13:09–14:38
Pat shares his uniquely un-glamorous childhood "vacations:"
The group reacts with a mixture of confusion and gentle ribbing, but Pat insists he didn't mind.
Timestamps: 14:43–16:09
Josh recounts his recent laundromat adventure and muses on class and the immigrant experience:
Jokes about being a man folding “lady clothes” in front of watchful eyes.
Timestamps: 16:47–17:46
The gang laughs about slang ("slap," "yeet," "six, seven") kids use today.
Tom plays interpreter when his parents try to talk to his children:
Timestamps: 17:59–18:14
Timestamps: 18:25–20:22
This episode stands out for its warm camaraderie, punchy one-liners, and the artful weaving of relatable life woes—divorce, parenting, and aging—with irreverent comedy. Pat McGann fits right in, offering up great banter, especially about nostalgia and the challenges of modern life. If you miss the blend of real talk and comedic riffing, this “Extra” episode serves up both, with plenty of laughs and groan-worthy relatability.