B&T Extra: Comedian/Game Show Host Marc Summers

Summary

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Episode: B&T Extra: Comedian/Game Show Host Marc Summers

Date: October 17, 2025
Guest: Marc Summers, TV host, comedian, author
Theme: Nostalgia, behind-the-scenes television stories, game shows, wrestling legends, OCD, and quirky life anecdotes

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Overview

This episode features Marc Summers, the beloved television personality and host famous for Nickelodeon’s Double Dare and Food Network's Unwrapped. The conversation is a mix of nostalgia, personal struggles with OCD, amusing showbiz moments, and a deep dive into Marc’s experiences with celebrity conventions, wacky game show situations, and the unexpected complexities of life as a TV host.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Marc Summers’ OCD Adventures and Personal Stories

• Book and OCD Experiences
  • The co-host recalls reading Marc’s book about his OCD struggles, marveling at how detailed his routines were, such as reading every item in a shop window before boarding a plane ([02:33]).
  • Marc explains: “You have to do these things, intrusive thoughts that if you don’t read something in a particular way, you’ll say, well, the plane’s gonna go down or something bad’s gonna happen.” ([03:09])
  • Airplane rituals: Both the hosts and Marc share their own superstitions around plane boarding, laughing about touching the outside of the plane with different hands ([03:20]).
• Cooking for His Daughter
  • Marc shares a heartfelt and humorous story about spending nearly $1,000 just to cook hot dogs for his daughter because he didn’t own any pots and pans ([03:45]).

2. Game Shows, Celebrity Encounters, and the Glory Days of 'Double Dare'

• Conventions and Celebrity Stories
  • Marc talks about the fascinating people he meets at conventions—mentions encounters with Martin Sheen, Priscilla Presley, and Weird Al Yankovic ([05:04]).
  • Reminisces about a Double Dare episode pitting Lou Ferrigno against Weird Al, noting, “He answered every question... and he said, ‘It’s my gig. I remember.’” ([05:52])
• Favorite Episodes and Outrageous On-Set Moments
  • Marc’s classic episode: Super Slopomania with wrestlers Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby “The Brain” Heenan, culminating in him being dumped into a pool of chocolate ([06:17]).
    • “Bobby the Brain had the best sense of humor and remembered every joke he had ever heard...” ([06:28])
  • Stories about regional wrestling legends like Dick the Bruiser and Bobo Brazil; anecdotes about broadcasting and sharing dinners with these unique characters ([07:04], [07:21]).

3. Behind the Scenes of 'Double Dare'

• Slime, Stunts, and Logistics
  • Details how the show used to make 100 pounds of whipped cream every day and once had £5,000 of baked beans that turned rancid; ultimately, a septic tank company had to vacuum them out ([09:17]).
  • Offers an anecdote about a physical challenge that seemed impossible (landing a paper plane in a distant mailbox)—a kid nails it on the first try, to Marc’s comedic chagrin ([11:46], [12:39]):
    • “If you do, I’ll give you my house. Okay. On your mark, get set, go! And the first damn airplane went right into the mailbox.” ([12:32])
• Prospects of a Reunion or Adult ‘Double Dare’
  • Marc expresses doubt about Nickelodeon reviving the show but says “the people who grew up on it... would go out of their mind” for an adult version ([10:24]).

4. Conventions, Autograph Culture & Nostalgia Merch

• Discusses the economics and enjoyment of doing autograph conventions, meeting fans, and personalizing memorabilia ([14:22]–[14:57]).
• Laughs about the strangest merch seen at other celeb booths and how ventriloquist Jeff Dunham has built a merch empire ([15:19]–[15:27]).

5. Comedy, Magicians, and Celebrity Crossovers

• Marc talks about his childhood as an amateur magician and having dinner with legendary ventriloquist Paul Winchell (“that was quite fascinating” ([15:49])).
• Reflects on the rise of ventriloquism thanks to America’s Got Talent ([15:31]).

6. Hygiene, OCD, and Everyday Gross-Outs

• Entertaining banter about public restroom etiquette, elevator buttons, and escalator railings—everyone sharing their methods for avoiding germs ([17:52]–[19:59]).
  • “The worst is on going up on an escalator, though, they say, and touching the...” ([18:04])
• Discusses the myth about flight attendants washing their hosiery in hotel coffee makers ([20:38]), which gets laughs for its absurdity.
• Marc remains adamant: “I don’t drink coffee, number one... but no, I wouldn’t touch it because God knows that thing probably hasn’t been cleaned.” ([20:34])

7. Marc on Broadcasting and Professionalism

• Marc expresses appreciation for the professionalism of the BOB & TOM show crew, comparing them favorably to others in the industry ([17:26]).
  • “You guys are the most professional. I do two shows on a fairly regular basis... and just the professionalism, it’s hard to find these days.” ([17:26])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On OCD Rituals
  “You have to do these things, intrusive thoughts... if you don’t read something in a particular way, you’ll say, well, the plane’s gonna go down or something bad’s gonna happen.”
  — Marc Summers ([03:09])

• About Buying Pots for His Daughter
  “That hot dog cost me, you know, almost $1,000. But yeah, I did it because she wanted it.”
  — Marc Summers ([03:45])

• On Weird Al’s Brilliance
  “It’s my gig. I remember.”
  — Weird Al (as remembered by Marc Summers) ([05:52])

• Legendary Double Dare Episode
  “They picked me up and dumped me into this thing of chocolate. I mean, you would not have believed it, but it was an honor...”
  — Marc Summers ([06:28])

• Nostalgia for ‘Double Dare’
  “The people who grew up on it who are in their 40s now would go out of their mind to do a grown up version of it, but Nickelodeon seems to have no interest in that.”
  — Marc Summers ([10:29])

• On Conventions and Personal Impact
  “You can’t believe you had that much of an impact on a particular, you know, group of humans. And it is flattering, I will say.”
  — Marc Summers ([13:42])

• On the Absurdities of Cleanliness
  “I don’t drink coffee, number one... but no, I wouldn’t touch it because God knows that thing probably hasn’t been cleaned.”
  — Marc Summers ([20:34])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Marc’s OCD and Airplane Rituals: [02:33]–[03:29]
• Parenting and the $1,000 Hot Dog: [03:45]–[04:24]
• Celebrity Conventions & Double Dare War Stories: [05:04]–[08:29]
• The Science of Slime and Leftover Beans: [09:17]–[10:10]
• Would You Do an Adult ‘Double Dare’?: [10:14]–[10:53]
• Paper Plane Challenge & On-Set Ad Libs: [11:46]–[12:39]
• Conventions, Merch, and Autograph Stories: [14:22]–[15:04]
• Hygiene Banter: Escalators, Doors, and Elevators: [17:52]–[19:59]
• Hotel Coffee Maker Urban Legends: [20:27]–[20:53]
• Reflection on Broadcasting, Professionalism: [17:26]

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Conclusion

This episode is a whirlwind of nostalgia, behind-the-curtain showbiz hilarity, and candid talk about mental health from an icon of children's television. Marc Summers is funny, heartfelt, and honest, giving listeners an insider’s view of TV, the peculiarities of OCD, and the joy—and awkwardness—of fame. Fans of comedy, 80s/90s pop culture, and television history will find it especially engaging.

Transcript

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[Christopher (Bob and Tom Show Host)]

Welcome back. It's another Bob and Tom extra. This is Christopher. Not only is the Bob and Tom show live every weekday morning, but every afternoon. We'll give you a little extra in case you missed anything on the big show today, game show host, comedian Mark Summers. It's coming up right after this.

[Mark Summers]

Limu Gameu and Doug.

[Christopher (Bob and Tom Show Host)]

Here we have the Limu emu in its natural habitat helping helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally, Doug.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.

[Christopher (Bob and Tom Show Host)]

Cut the camera.

[Mark Summers]

They see us.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Only pay for what you [e-mail] Liberty.

[Josh (Co-host)]

Liberty, Liberty, Liberty Savings.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Very underwritten by Liberty Mutual Insurance company and affiliates.

[Mark Summers]

Excludes Massachusetts.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

You know, clap your hands, Wally. Polly doodle, clap your hands. If you're half brown, you know, then your face is surely shown. If you're half brain, you know, clap your hands. Oh, Charlie lost his hands in the wall. He could clap with his hooks. Sounded like a wind chime. Sing a Polly dolly doodle all today.

[Christopher (Bob and Tom Show Host)]

A great way to get your morning.

[Mark Summers]

This is Bob and Tom Extra joining.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Us in the studio. He is Mark Summers, I guess is a television personality. One of your hats. Also an author of a great book that I read years ago about your OCD adventures.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Adventures.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I mean it really was, we know, nice way to put it. I'm just, I haven't looked at the book in a while. I remember one of the other things I remember. I'll probably get this wrong, but the essence of it was before you could get on an airplane, you had to go to a certain store window and am I getting this right? Yeah, and you had to read everything before you could get on a plane.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah. You have to do these things, intrusive thoughts that if you don't read something in a particular way, you'll say, well, the plane's gonna go down or something bad's gonna happen. So you would find yourself going and doing these repetitive actions over and over again.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

And you do know when you get on a plane, you have to touch the side of the plane with your right hand.

[Mark Summers]

I do that.

[Josh (Co-host)]

Thanks.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

You're aware of that. Okay. I just want to make sure you knew that.

[Mark Summers]

See, I use the left hand, so that's no wonder.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I can't believe you're here with us. What was the other one? Another story I remember from the book. And I. If I'm getting this right, I think it was your daughter or something was in town and you didn't have anything to cook, but she wanted a hot dog. Oh, yeah. And you. And you went and you tell the story.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah. I was living in New York City and I was doing a couple of talk shows there. And my kids would come and spend a month at a time with me. And especially in the summertime, so I would go out to dinner every night. I never used my kitchen once. And I said to Meredith in the elevator going down, what would you like to do? And she said, I just want to cook some hot dogs and have dinner at home. And I said, well, I can't do that. I don't have any, you know, pots or pans or anything. And, you know, what do you say to your, at the time, like nine or ten year old daughter? So I went to Macy's and spent, you know, $500 in pots and pans. You know, that hot dog cost me, you know, almost $1,000. But yeah, I did it because she wanted it. You know, I think it was the only time I ever used those pots and pans, by the way.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Wow. I do a similar thing now. It's the make your own pizza thing I'll do with my daughters.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

And you go get one of those.

[Mark Summers]

Pizza ovens, like the Ooni pizza oven.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah. But the thing is, you go to like Whole Foods and you spend $40 buying the stuff to make a pizza.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

And you make a pizza that's almost as good as the one you can get for six bucks.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Josh (Co-host)]

Have you used your solo stove?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I. It's. I'm getting ready to Christmas.

[Josh (Co-host)]

Three years ago.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Well, I've been busy. I have things to do. Our guest. Our guest is Mark Summers. Do you I. I kind of was walking out of the room, and you guys started talking about this, so I didn't hear the answer. Do you do conventions where you go and are they game show people or just all these television people?

[Mark Summers]

No, television people. And it's fascinating. I mean, I went to one recently with Martin Sheen and got to meet him and spend some time with him. You know, Priscilla Presley was there. I mean, it's. It's fascinating to me who shows up to these things. Weird Al. When we were doing Double Dare, we premiered on the Fox network when they first launched in prime time on weekends. And the first celebrity episode we did was Lou Ferrigno against Weird Al. Okay. You can imagine. And I hadn't seen Weird Al since then, and there he was. And sure enough, he remembered. And it was hard because you obviously want people to go to the physical challenges. That's what people tune in for. And he answered every question. And I said, hey, man, how do you know all the answers to these things? And he said, it's my gig. I remember.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I want to say that Al was the valedictorian of his high school class. I think he's a super smart guy.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah. I would not be surprised.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

And he's got a great band. If you ever get a chance to.

[Mark Summers]

See Weird Al live, he's spectacular.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

He has a terrific band.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

They have to know how to play everything. Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

And. But they're very good.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

So. Yeah. And. And like I said, Al's been in. In here a couple times, and he's a. He is a smart dude.

[Mark Summers]

My favorite episode we ever did on Double Dare, though, was super slopomania 1. I had gorilla monsoon against Bobby the brain heenan.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

2 of, I would argue, two of the funniest television personalities of all time.

[Mark Summers]

And brilliant. Yes. Bobby the Brain had the best sense of humor and remembered every joke he had ever heard, whether he heard it from you or me or somebody else. He put in memory and gorilla and had two degrees. He was a brilliant guy, but together they were unbelievable. Yes. And at the end, they choreographed. They said, do you mind if we get you messy? And the finale of it was, I caught them cheating on the obstacle course, and they picked me up and dumped me into this thing of chocolate. I mean, you would not have believed it, but it was an honor to have Gorilla Monsoon in Bobby.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

You're absolutely. That's so great. They were one of the best comedic duos of all time.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Ever.

[Mark Summers]

I mean, Dick the Bruiser, when I grew up here, back in the day in Indiana, Where I grew up, he was a local personality. And, you know, back then, wrestlers were more regional before the wwe, you know, became what it became. But, I mean, who didn't want to go to those things and observe that whole situation?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

You're in the presence of someone who had Bobo Brazil steal their sandwich.

[Josh (Co-host)]

My Monte Cristo.

[Mark Summers]

Really?

[Josh (Co-host)]

Yeah. I was working for a local television and we would. We would broadcast the wrestling matches and I had to run camera one time because one of our camera operators couldn't make it. So afterward we all went out to dinner, you know, at 11, 12 o' clock at night. And here comes Bobo, he walks by me and he goes, you ain't gonna eat that. And grab.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Really, it was interesting because those wrestling guys, they. They are very athletic, but they tend to have very long careers. Because I remember seeing Mr. Brazil when I was a little kid.

[Josh (Co-host)]

Yeah. And this was.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Well, and. And he'd been doing it for decades.

[Josh (Co-host)]

This was mid-80s and.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

As had Dick the Bruiser.

[Mark Summers]

Yes. Yeah.

[Josh (Co-host)]

Absolutely.

[Mark Summers]

Well, and. And towards the end, when the WWE dropped Heenan and then he went to another league and one thing after another, and, you know, they didn't pay those guys much. WWE came to me almost every year and wanted me to become a broadcaster because I had this following with all these people from the Nickelodeon audience and they thought they would follow me over.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Oh.

[Mark Summers]

But the most they ever offered me and, you know, was $100,000 a year to be on the road 360 days a year. No kidding. But, you know, that's all those guys made. Heenan and all those guys, they got. They got 100 grand. That was pretty much it. Wow. And it was very sad towards the end because Bobby didn't have a lot of money. And then he got very sick. And, you know, a sad ending there. And, you know, nobody from the organization who had millions of dollars were there to help him any way, shape or form. So.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Were you ever a guest referee?

[Mark Summers]

No, no, no, I did. I wish I would have been a part of that stuff, but no. And I never thought I would be a good broadcaster because I want to do real stuff. And that's always phony, fakey stuff, entertaining to certain people, not me.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Speaking of real, what temperature was the slime? Well, did they. Was it freezing cold or.

[Mark Summers]

We would make 100 pounds of fresh whipped cream every day. Okay. And when you first get it in the morning, it's cold. And as the day sits under those hot lights, we would fill this tank full of £5,000 of baked beans or whatever. It would throughout the day become a little rancid. And one of the worst days we ever had was we put in the baked beans. And after three days, you couldn't walk in the studio. It smelled like a garbage pit. So the question is, how do you get rid of £5,000 of baked beans? So we tried to get shovels and put them in these large garbage bags, but the bags kept breaking. So we called in a septic tank guy, you know, the guys who come in with hip waiters or whatever. And he sucked out the bean. He had no idea why. He said, why do you have £5,000 of beans in there? You know, and it's. And he was from Philly and he still talked like that, but nonetheless he sucked all those beans out. So, you know, there are stories about, you know, we were making it up as we went along, quite honestly.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Is there going to be another episode that you get to host of Double Dare down the road?

[Mark Summers]

I can't imagine. You know, Nickelodeon kind of hardly exists anymore if it wasn't for spongebob. If you ask a kid today what Nickelodeon is, they can't tell you. It's not like.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

But wouldn't, wouldn't the folks that were kids back then want to see you do it again?

[Mark Summers]

The people who grew up on it who are in their 40s now would go out of their mind to do a grown up version of it, but Nickelodeon seems to have no interest in that.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Wouldn't another network, they, they, you know.

[Mark Summers]

Would have to buy it from?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

MSNBC and Fox finally get together? We agree about this.

[Mark Summers]

Oh, man.

[Josh (Co-host)]

Would you do it, Josh? You're in your 40s. You're one of these young men.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Would I go on Double Dare? Absolutely.

[Josh (Co-host)]

That's what I thought.

[Mark Summers]

The last tour we did, we would do the meet and greets backstage. And a lot of times it was people your age coming back and I'd say, where the kids, they say, oh, hell, we want to have a good time on our own. They leave the kids at home.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

It was appointment viewing for my family.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah. So, you know, I was honored to be, you know, whatever Soupy Sales was to me growing up, I was to a particular generation and I was able to transfer over to Food Network. And the people who started watching me at Nick followed me over there.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

I remember specific jokes. You did?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I remember.

[Mark Summers]

Really?

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Yeah, yeah. I remember one. You, you're coming back from break and they were playing, oh, Johnny Winter's the Spy Song.

[Mark Summers]

Right.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

You remember what, what was that? Oh, Secret Agent Manny. You were doing this dance and I still picture and it was as funny as anything.

[Mark Summers]

It was all ad lib. We made it up as we went along. That's what I loved about it.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

I even as a kid, I knew.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Did you guys, did you guys have a meeting prior to each. Because you said you did six in a day.

[Mark Summers]

The six in a day. And then we would bring kids in from the area and test physical challenges. And if they weren't done at least three times, we weren't allowed to do them. So this is a crazy story. So they did a physical challenge where there was a mailbox, you know, 20ft on the other side of the stage and they had paper airplanes. And you, the thing was you had to get one airplane in the mailbox. And I said, come on, let's not do. This is stupid. Nobody can do that. And then the producer said, well, now that you said that, we're going to do it. So the next day, first physical challenge, they bring out a mailbox and here's 20 paper planes. And I looked at the camera and I said, okay, I. Let me tell you what happened last night. We tried this physical challenge and it couldn't get done. And I said, this is the dumbest idea I've ever seen in my life. So you've got 20 seconds to get a paper airplane into that mailbox. And if you do, I'll give you my house. Okay. On your mark, get set, go. And the first damn airplane went right into the mailbox. Yeah. And that kid really enjoyed my place. Yeah, yeah. True story.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Our guest is Mark Summers, television guy.

[Mark Summers]

You go to autograph shows?

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

I do, yeah. I, I'd like to go to one of the holiday, the Hallmark conventions because I have my favorites, my favorite leads that are. But I've been to mostly horror conventions. Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Summers]

H O R R O R. Yes.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Yeah. I've yet to go to the W.

[Mark Summers]

Whose autograph would you like that you haven't gotten?

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

I haven't gotten Robert England's autograph who played Freddy Krueger. Of course, anybody's also a classically trained actor. So, yeah, that, that probably be number one.

[Mark Summers]

And what would be the most you would spend for an autograph boy for him?

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

I don't know what he charges, but if I, if it were like a picture with him and an 8 by 10 signed, I'd pay 80 bucks, 100 bucks.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah, I mean, it's amazing what some of these people charge. Yeah, people pay it, you know, it's.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Mind boggling listening to them, listening to everybody. They seem to really enjoy. The celebrities seem to really enjoy it because they're just beloved.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah. They're just the nicest things. Yeah. And you can't believe you had that much of an impact on a particular, you know, group of humans.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Mark Summers]

And it is flattering, I will say.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

That horror conventions are interesting because you'd think they'd be, you know. Well, yeah, there's a lot of weirdos and misfits and stuff, but it's the most positive place.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

They're not.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

There's nothing dark about it. It's all very, very celebratory and happy. It's interesting.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I went with him to see Elvira.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Oh, yeah. I was. I got my picture with Elvira. Yeah.

[Mark Summers]

Known her for years. I was a warm up guy on Alice and she used to do a lot of bit parts on there all the time. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah. Nice lady. Very nice. Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Do you do those?

[Christopher (Bob and Tom Show Host)]

Yes.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

The autograph.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah, yeah. My next one is in Minneapolis, first weekend of.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

And do you personalize them as, you know, to bill?

[Mark Summers]

Oh, yeah, 100%. And, you know, they have handlers there. Thank Evans. Because people want to sit and talk to you for 15 minutes and tell you stories about the time they build an obstacle course in their dining room and their parents wanted to have them put to sleep and things like that. And, you know, you have to be nice. But on the same token, the longer you talk, that's the fewer you sign and, you know, and get paid on a.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Per autograph.

[Mark Summers]

Per autograph, exactly. And then I bring merchandise. I have all the merchandise from the last Nickelodeon tour. So I bring that stuff and sell T shirts and sweatshirts and hats and, you know.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

But you don't have your own line of shoes.

[Mark Summers]

No, I do not yet. Reeboks, that's. That was our show. Yeah.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

That's a tough merch. You have to have all the sizes.

[WhatsApp Announcer]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I wonder if anybody does that. What is the oddest, like, rock band merch that's out there? There have to be some weird things.

[Mark Summers]

I would imagine, right?

[Josh (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

I mean, Dunham sells his puppets.

[Mark Summers]

Yes, he does.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

That's right.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Yeah, he does.

[Mark Summers]

Yes. That man is worth a fortune.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yes.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Yeah.

[Mark Summers]

He's a very smart man, too. Very smart man.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

He seems to be.

[Mark Summers]

And his following is unbelievable. And ventriloquism, since America's Got Talent has exploded. You know, there were several years there where nobody knew what a ventriloquist was, and now they're. They're seemingly all over the place in Vegas especially.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Did you have any Puppets. When you. I know you were a magician as a kid. Did you have any Jerry Mahoney or Knucklehead Smith?

[Mark Summers]

I wasn't particularly good at it. I did have a dinner with Paul Winchell before he passed away, and that was quite fascinating.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Wow.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah, he was.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Paul Winchell was a scientist also, besides ventriloquist. He worked on Heart.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

When you make, like, a sandwich, talk.

[Mark Summers]

Or anything, I can't tell you what he may talk.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

He is Mark Summers. Mark is a. An actor, a comedian, a voiceover guy.

[Christopher (Bob and Tom Show Host)]

Sure.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

And he's got a great book out there called Everything in Its Place. Terrific. His story about, as I said earlier, his adventures with ocd. And then. Did you. I. I remember hearing. Didn't you get into some kind of argument with someone about some of the medication you were taking? That got pretty nasty.

[Mark Summers]

Well, I would go to these classes to try and, you know, fix the problem. And we had this one guy, he was a phlebotomist. Okay. So he took blood out of people.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Blood guy. Yeah. And.

[Mark Summers]

And he. He was phobic. Germ Phobic. And he would come to the meeting every week and say, I want to stop doing this. But he wouldn't. And he wouldn't take his meds. And after a while, you kind of say, you know, I'm not here to hear you complain on a weekly basis. Do you want to get better or not? Because I really, you know, I've never done drugs or alcohol, but I'm assuming it's the same thing. Until you're ready to kick that stuff, you're not going to do it. And to come and say, I want to get better and then don't do anything. And, yes, I finally said to him, look, one of us has to leave. Either you got to keep, you know, on your meds and try to get better, or I'm leaving. And he said, see you later, and I left.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Okay. But you're fine now?

[Mark Summers]

Yeah, I'm okay. You know, I mean, I don't think I'm ever going to be normal, but, you know, I work on it on a daily. Yeah. What is normal? Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Don't look around this room. No, no.

[Mark Summers]

We're all dentive cancer. I've been doing this show for 25 years, and, you know, you guys are the most professional. I do two shows on a fairly regular basis. You and Preston and Steve in Philly. And just the professionalism, it's hard to find these days, but we're all sort of pioneers in doing this in Broadcasting. And it doesn't exist so much anymore.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

More. Oh, well, that's very kind.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

We certainly appreciate you saying that.

[Mark Summers]

That's being professional and we always have.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

We had that story a bunch about how dirty your phone is. Yeah. They did a thing at one of the malls and they checked phones and 99 of them had E. Coli on them. And it's.

[Mark Summers]

The worst is on. Going up on an escalator, though, they say, and touching the.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Yeah, I don't.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I don't.

[Mark Summers]

No, I don't get near it.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I balance.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

But on a hazmat seat, it's like surfing.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Do you do the surfing motion?

[Mark Summers]

Can you show us that? Yeah, I like that.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

The endless escalator.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

And then do you take your shirt tail and open bathroom doors and.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

No, I don't use my shirt.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Do you take like the last paper towels?

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Absolutely.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

The places. The places that only have the air dryer.

[Mark Summers]

Oh, I hate those.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Yep, me too.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Then. Then I got. Then I've got. It's got to be shirt tail or you go back and get toilet paper to touch the door.

[Mark Summers]

But I don't want to touch the toilet paper. Right, right.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

So some of those shirts have a.

[Mark Summers]

I'd have to sell the shirt or get rid of.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

I won't use the.

[Josh (Co-host)]

I know chicks would say the foot.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

The foot lever.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah, well, the foot thing.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Those are great. Well, if it's a push door.

[Mark Summers]

Yes.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

But if you got a pull.

[Mark Summers]

But yes, you can pull.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

You can pull with the foot thing.

[Josh (Co-host)]

Yes, they have a thing where you.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Can pull, but they don't always have that.

[Mark Summers]

Do you see the signs in some bathrooms now that says please don't use your foot?

[Josh (Co-host)]

No.

[Mark Summers]

Yes, I've seen those recently.

[Josh (Co-host)]

Oh, you mean on the handle.

[Mark Summers]

Yes, because apparently it damages the handle.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Oh, people are just stepping down to our.

[Mark Summers]

I guess so.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Well, I'm not obeying that sign and I'm not.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I'm not averse to walking over and hitting the automatic door button with my elbow. Oh, yeah, I just did that yesterday. Went to the dermatologist. Walk up to the front door and look over. Oh, there's. Over there. Walk over.

[Josh (Co-host)]

Oh, you mean for the handicap door thing.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Oh, so you don't touch the hand? I don't have to touch the door.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah. Boy, we're solving the world's problem.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Then I got in and there was a. I walked in and there was a lady coming in too, and she. We both got in the elevator at the same time. Oh, my God. Then we had this dairy contest who's gonna touch that filthy elevator button.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

I use my knuckle.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Yeah.

[Mark Summers]

Like that makes you feel better. But it's basically the same.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

I know, but I'm not. Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

And then I immediately sanitize when I get up to the.

[Josh (Co-host)]

Oh, you got.

[Mark Summers]

Why don't you carry a handkerchief with you?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

That seems like that's disgusting. When I was a kid. No, you wouldn't blow your nose in it. But I mean, touching things. No, but then it's got all the germs on it.

[Mark Summers]

Okay.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Mark Summers]

I was in a restaurant the other day, and a guy was blowing his nose in a napkin and left it on the table, I think. Yeah.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Ye.

[Mark Summers]

I mean, people are so uncouth that he would think that now somebody has to pick that.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Yeah, that's a bummer.

[Mark Summers]

Yeah.

[Josh (Co-host)]

You need to eat in nicer places.

[Mark Summers]

What are you eating?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

This should be a man. New talk show. Welcome to what's Disgusting. How about this one? You're in a hotel room. Mark Summers. You stay at some nice hotels. You're at some convention.

[Mark Summers]

Right.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

I would of course, get up and go down to the coffee place or a restaurant. Do you ever make the coffee in the room and use that coffee maker?

[Mark Summers]

I don't drink coffee, number one.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Oh, that's a shame.

[Mark Summers]

But no, I wouldn't touch it because God knows that thing probably hasn't been cleaned in.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Well, there was a. There was a Internet rumor a few years ago that stewardesses, flight attendants would put their hosiery in those.

[Mark Summers]

And they're delicates.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

They're delicate things. They're unmentionable underwear and clean them. And I don't know if it's true or not, but I think for some men, that might be kind of a turn. Oh, this. This coffee tastes.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

These lululem notes of Sally stockings.

[Mark Summers]

I don't think ladies wear hosiery very rarely.

[Christopher (Bob and Tom Show Host)]

That's it for another Bob and Tom show. Extra. Catch us on itunes. Google play and stitcher for Bob and Tom. Extra. This is Christopher. Take care, everybody.

[Mark Summers]

The United States Soccer Federation presents the U.S. soccer Podcast.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

Searching for an inside look at the people, stories and passion of that fuel the state of soccer in America.

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Who's going to be the key man for the US Men's national team?

[Mark Summers]

First and foremost, they need to win.

[Josh (Co-host)]

There's something so fun about being the underdog.

[Mark Summers]

You're playing with house money. But what does this success mean for the future of U.S. soccer?

[Co-host/Interviewer]

Oh, you're getting deep now.

[Guest or Additional Co-host]

This is where soccer will come to Life.

[Mark Summers]

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