B&T Extra: Comedians Geacie Canaan & Milaya Vanetrub

Summary

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Episode: B&T Extra: Comedians Gracie Kanan & Milana Vayntrub
Date: September 8, 2025
Guests: Gracie Kanan, Milana Vayntrub
Host(s): Bob & Tom cast, featuring Josh Arnold and Nick Griffin

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of The BOB & TOM Show spotlights comedians Gracie Kanan and Milana Vayntrub, offering a blend of stand-up, candid conversation, and comic banter. The discussion flows through topics like comedians' self-care routines, urban life (NYC & LA edition), modern dating, therapy misadventures, and the camaraderie (and rivalry) of comics on tour. The episode is rich in memorable anecdotes and showcases the guests' comedic chemistry and vulnerability.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Comedian Introductions & Name Games

• The show opens with playful riffs on the guests’ names and showbiz personas.
• Gracie Kanan: “There’s like, eight different ways to pronounce it.” (04:43)
• Milana Vayntrub jokes about earning commission from AT&T mentions, riffing on her commercial fame as “Lily from AT&T.” (04:28)

Beyonce & Shower Rituals

• Gracie shares her emotional experience at Beyonce’s "Cowboy Carter" concert—“It changed my life. I cried so hard.” (05:13)
• The group moves into a surprisingly earnest and funny discussion about shower habits.
  • Josh Arnold: “Queen Bee tells us, don’t use just one body wash. Mix them.” (05:16)
  • He shares his elaborate ritual: mixing numerous body washes and shampoos for a custom scent, incorporating shea butter and even eucalyptus branches:
    “My daughter every now and then brings me a eucalyptus branch and you hang it from your shower.” (07:10)
• Milana notes the shower as a rare modern space for undistracted thought: “Anytime I have an original thought, it’s in the shower.” (06:47)

Living in NYC vs. LA

• Gracie (Brooklyn) and Milana (Los Angeles) compare weather and city dynamics with classic coast-to-coast humor.
  • Gracie calls NYC “swampy,” while Milana downplays it, poking fun at differences. (08:23)
  • Gracie: “My roommate is a rat. Honestly, my roommate is a rat. It’s insane.” (08:36)
  • They entertain a comic side-thread on rat documentaries and garbage—Gracie quips, “Why would you make a documentary about that? That’s harrowing.” (09:02)

Unconventional Roommate & Dating Dynamics

• Gracie reveals she lives with her ex-boyfriend:
  • “Yeah, we’re like bff, so…” (09:37)
  • “Absolutely not. We are both disgusted, I think.” (09:52)
• The group explores dating in NYC—Gracie jokes:
  • “There’s a filter by Hinge…you can do that by name. I’m seeing someone that has been all green flags recently. So I gotta block him. Good for my brand.” (10:35)

Comic Tales: First Dates, Kissing, and Social Cues

• Anecdotes fly about awkward first date kisses, inspired by a Nick Griffin bit about always ending coffee dates with a kiss for comedic value:
  • “Nothing worse than the lean.” “Nothing worse. That’s the best.” – Gracie and Josh (12:06)
• Milana vents: “I’ve definitely been attempted to kiss at the end of a date and been like, there were no cues for you that this was okay...” (11:46)

Touring, Creative Drive, and Comic Chemistry

• Both women talk about the resilience comedians develop, especially from challenging backgrounds:
  • Milana: “We’re constantly just trying to prove ourselves…and I have a big, big hole in my heart that I could only fill with stranger’s laughter. So I have to keep doing it or I die.” (13:10)
• Discussion of their short film Booties:
  • “It’s 45 minutes, no dialogue…just ass.” – Gracie (13:49)
  • The group riffs about doing stand-up together, highlighting their different stage energies (“feral comedy raccoon” vs. a “polished improv background”). (14:18)

Therapy Talk: Why Every Comic (and New Yorker) Needs It

• Gracie and Milana openly discuss mental health support:
  • Gracie: “Do you think I’m held together by duct tape? [On therapy]…I think it should be a requirement when people move to New York.” (18:47)
  • Her last therapist was only 23: “...your brain is not fully developed.” (19:17)
• The hosts and guests compare therapist experiences, joke about boundaries, Venmo requests, and “winning” at therapy.
• Milana: “I think my therapist is my best friend. And we laugh and I know stories about her life. …And then at the end of the session when I get a Venmo request, I’m like, how dare you?” (21:13)

Roots and Belonging: LA, Family, and Home

• Milana discusses her immigrant family’s journey from Uzbekistan to LA, and the unique cultural mix of West Hollywood:
  • “We immigrated when I was about 2 years old, so right into West Hollywood...now it’s just gay people.” (15:29)
• Gracie reflects on why she fits better on the East Coast:
  • “I was like the weird, moody theater kid...there’s something about [the chaos] where it’s like, I need the chaos to have inner peace.” (17:06)
• Nick shares about his daughters in Chicago; Milana relates as a parent wanting to keep family close. (17:56)

Grounding, Self-Care, and Final Laughs

• Conversation takes a left turn into “grounding”—walking barefoot outside to balance your internal electricity—and grounding mats for the housebound or agoraphobic.
  • Josh: “You go outside barefoot...it’s supposed to be anti-inflammatory.” (22:06)
  • Milana: “For people who can’t go outside.” (22:23)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Shower Rituals:
  “Queen Bee tells us, don’t use just one body wash…Mix them together, and then you have your own scent.” – Josh Arnold (05:16)
• On Therapy in New York:
  “You cannot have, like, 9 million people with unresolved mommy issues living on top of each other. That’s where things get dicey.” – Gracie Kanan (18:53)
• On Comedy & Motivation:
  “I have a big, big hole in my heart that I could only fill with strangers laughter. So I have to keep doing it or I die.” – Milana Vayntrub (13:15)
• On LA Culture:
  “My family’s from Uzbekistan…right into West Hollywood…now it’s just gay people.” – Milana Vayntrub (15:29)
• On Dating:
  “I am seeing someone that has been all green flags recently. So I gotta block him. Good for my brand.” – Gracie Kanan (10:35)
• On Roommate Arrangements:
  “My roommate is a rat. Honestly, my roommate is a rat. It’s insane.” – Gracie Kanan (08:36)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:07] — Comedian introductions and playful banter
• [05:13] — Gracie on the Beyonce concert & shower rituals
• [08:14] — Life in NYC vs. LA (“too many rats” & city quirks)
• [09:31] — Gracie’s unconventional living arrangement (ex-boyfriend as roommate)
• [10:23] — Dating in New York and cynicism
• [12:01] — First date kisses and social misreadings
• [13:10] — Motivation behind comedy, broken childhoods, and touring
• [13:31] — Their short film Booties (and what it’s really about!)
• [18:47] — Therapy talk: generational gaps and necessity in NYC
• [21:13] — Boundaries with therapists and paying friends
• [22:06] — Grounding rituals and self-care

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Overall Tone

The conversation is fast-paced, irreverent, and intimate—full of performers’ confessions, inside jokes, and sharp wit. The guests gladly roast each other and themselves, while also opening up about the challenges of their respective cities, backgrounds, and careers.

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Conclusion

This B&T Extra episode is a delightful, insight-filled comic hang with Gracie Kanan and Milana Vayntrub, capturing the energy of artists living (and laughing) between Brooklyn and Los Angeles. Listeners will feel like they're backstage with working standups: swapping stories, cutting through pretensions, and agreeing that—no matter where you’re from—comedy and therapy might be survival skills.

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Transcript

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[Christopher (Podcast Host)]

Welcome back. It's another Bob and Tom extra. This is Christopher. Not only is the Bob and Tom show live every weekday morning, but every afternoon we'll give you a little extra in case you missed anything. Coming up on today's show, comedian Grace Kanan and Melaya Vantrub. It's on the way in just a minute.

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[Gracie Kanan]

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[John (Comedian, 'Bad Day' bit)]

I stayed in bed late today cause the room was spinning I think it's gonna be a bad day. My alarm went off on time but it was a smoke alarm I think it's gonna be a Poured a bowl of chunky granola the milk was chunkier I think it's gonna be a bad day My boss said I'm doing a great job and he hates to let me go I think it's gonna be a bad day My wife said I love you bill My name is John I think it's gonna be a bad day Found a four leaf clover growing on my shower floor I think it's gonna I'm gonna be a dad According to the lawsuit. I think it's gonna be a bad day. Talk to a sexy girl today for 4.95aminute. I think it's gonna be a bad day. My son finally got his own place. He's in prison. I think it's gonna be a bad day. My daughter started an E business. She's got a camera in her bedroom. I think it's gonna be a bad day. My doctor gave me the thumbs up. It was extremely painful. I think it's gonna be a bad day. My wife likes to dress sexy, so I hear. I think it's gonna be a bad day. My secretary has a crush on me. His name is Steve. I think it's gonna be a bad day.

[Josh Arnold]

The Bob and Tom show is still trying to wake up. In the meantime, more Bob and Tom extra chick.

We're joined by two very terrific guests.

I guess, are we comedians?

[Milana Vayntrub]

Do we like them even? Are they terrific?

[Josh Arnold]

I'm a very trustworthy person.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Does he just say that about everybody?

[Josh Arnold]

I do not.

I know. I enjoy my AT T phone service. That's all I know.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Every time you say that, I get a small commission.

[Josh Arnold]

This is Milana Vine. Trub.

[Gracie Kanan]

Yeah, it.

[Josh Arnold]

Really?

[Milana Vayntrub]

Yeah. You nailed it. What's funny is Gracie's name is way easier, but everyone gets that one wrong.

[Josh Arnold]

Gracie Kanan.

[Gracie Kanan]

Kanan. But I literally don't care. And there's like, eight different ways to pronounce it.

[Josh Arnold]

See, you gotta go with old Hollywood. You should be Grace Collins. And you should be Millie Van Giles Vanilli.

[Gracie Kanan]

I like Milli Vanilli.

[Josh Arnold]

I think Gracie went Old Testament.

[Gracie Kanan]

I did. I'm very biblical for a comedian.

[Josh Arnold]

That's right.

That's old.

[Milana Vayntrub]

And I went old. Plagiarism.

[Josh Arnold]

Very nice. Who's on your shirt, Gracie?

[Gracie Kanan]

Beyonce. I went to Cowboy Carter, and it changed my life. I cried so hard.

[Josh Arnold]

I'm glad you brought this up. Queen bee tells us, don't use just one body wash. Don't use just one shampoo. Mix them.

[Gracie Kanan]

This is.

[Nick Griffin]

This is true.

[Josh Arnold]

Mix them together, and then you have your own scent.

So do you live by that?

I live by that. I have, like, nine.

[Nick Griffin]

What do you mix into?

[Josh Arnold]

I'm very non male.

[Gracie Kanan]

Confession time.

[Josh Arnold]

I have, like, 20, 25. Shower, body wash. I am not 25. 10.

[Nick Griffin]

And you mix them together.

[Josh Arnold]

And I mix them all together with a standard. With my base.

[Nick Griffin]

Right.

[Josh Arnold]

I'm making a fist with my base.

[Nick Griffin]

What's your base?

[Josh Arnold]

My base is shea butter.

[Nick Griffin]

Nice.

[Josh Arnold]

Black soap or something like that. And then I take my.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Wait, wait. Don't tell us the rest. We should all go around and sniff him.

[Josh Arnold]

I do the same thing with my shampoo. I mix two shampoos together and therefore queen bee told me I have my own set.

Well, now King C does his thing. That's great.

There you go.

[Nick Griffin]

Oh, King, we're going to have to call him.

[Josh Arnold]

So what do you guys. Yeah. What do either one of you do in the shower? Go ahead.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Great way to start.

[Gracie Kanan]

On the floor. Anyone else? It's a great way to start your day, honestly.

[Josh Arnold]

Is it. Is it common knowledge that I just learned this recently? You should actually. Well, I saw it in the Big Chill.

[Milana Vayntrub]

What just came out.

[Josh Arnold]

You're supposed to. Thank you. Thank you, Millie. No, you're supposed to cry in the shower. Did you know this? I don't know. That's where you're supposed to do all your crying. If you cry.

[Nick Griffin]

So people don't know that you're crying, I guess.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Cathartic place to have thoughts. I mean, it's like one of the rare places where we don't have our phones, we don't have any distractions. So anytime I have an original thought, it's in the shower.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah, a lot of times that is where the.

Now I've got my shower. Another thing. I've got eucalyptus going in the shower. I got the vapor pucks.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Wait, you have like the actual eucalyptus leaf.

[Josh Arnold]

My daughter at one point, my daughter every now and then brings me a eucalyptus branch and you hang it from your shower. Yes, you do.

Enya playing.

I have a suction cup. I have a suction cup magnet for my phone that goes up on the wall.

I disagree, Christy.

[Gracie Kanan]

I think this is quite do take.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Your phone into the shower.

[Nick Griffin]

Take your phone into the shower.

[Gracie Kanan]

You run a small business from the shower.

[Josh Arnold]

I do. We're waiting for.

[Gracie Kanan]

That sound really stressful.

[Josh Arnold]

It does sound like more. More like a boutique, doesn't it?

[Nick Griffin]

How big is your shower and how.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Many other people are in there with you?

[Josh Arnold]

Eight by ten and about three the busiest times. No, I just. I. That's where I listen to music and sometimes.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Okay, that's beautiful. I love your self care ritual. Never could have.

[Josh Arnold]

I'm very self. I'm very self invol. I'm not. I'm not finding what I'm. I'm not liking what I'm finding, but no.

We're joined by Milana Vayntrub and Gracie Cannon. Gracie, are you. Do you live in New York?

[Gracie Kanan]

I do. I do. We're representing both coasts right now. I live In Brooklyn.

[Milana Vayntrub]

I live in la. We are driving and so we're just here. Disagreeing about the weather mostly.

[Gracie Kanan]

Yeah. I'm like, it's so swampy.

[Milana Vayntrub]

She's like, this is nothing compared to the city.

[Gracie Kanan]

I'm like, this is breezy in the city. It's just. It feels like. I don't know, it feels like a greenhouse house or something.

[Nick Griffin]

Too many buildings, they're too tall.

[Gracie Kanan]

Too many people, too many rats. Honestly, my roommate is a rat. It's insane. Yeah.

[Josh Arnold]

Have you ever seen the documentary Charge Him Rent?

[Gracie Kanan]

He pays more. He's actually my landlord, so, you know, it's just nice to be out.

[Josh Arnold]

What's that documentary called, Josh? The Rats.

Rats by Morgan Spurlock. Seen that one.

And they go out and there's this pile of garbage and it's late at night and they go and hit a stick and all. And the entire pile of garbage move. It's in New York City and all the rats.

[Gracie Kanan]

Why would you make a documentary about that? That's harrowing.

[Josh Arnold]

It's pretty wild. Ye. And then he goes, you know, down deep into the subway system.

[Gracie Kanan]

Sure.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Why would you be putting rat food on the street? Big bags on a schedule.

[Josh Arnold]

Well, yeah.

See, they think the rats.

[Nick Griffin]

Have a good point.

[Josh Arnold]

The rats don't know, but the rats.

[Nick Griffin]

The rats know the rats. Chicago has a bad.

[Josh Arnold]

Chicago hasn't bad.

[Nick Griffin]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. My daughters live in Chicago and I've walking down the sidewalk and all of a sudden.

[Josh Arnold]

Do you. So you have roommates or you don't?

[Gracie Kanan]

I have a roommate. You guys want to hear everything? Something that everyone thinks is crazy. I live with my ex boyfriend.

[Josh Arnold]

Oh, okay.

[Gracie Kanan]

Ye. Yeah, we're like bff, so.

[Josh Arnold]

Is that right?

[Gracie Kanan]

Yeah.

[Josh Arnold]

Is he just saying we're best friends?

[Gracie Kanan]

No, no, we did.

[Josh Arnold]

Hopefully she's going to see me again.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Is he trying to weasel his way back in?

[Gracie Kanan]

Absolutely not. We are both disgusted, I think.

[Josh Arnold]

Okay.

Yeah.

[Gracie Kanan]

Yeah.

[Josh Arnold]

I think that's really sweet that you think that. He has a girlfriend and she has.

[Gracie Kanan]

The same name as me. Not last name, but. Yeah. Yeah. New York, baby.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

[Milana Vayntrub]

You know what they say. There's just not a lot of people in New York. It is hard to meet people, to meet anybody.

[Josh Arnold]

Right?

Yeah.

[Nick Griffin]

Would you like Gracie? It's amazing.

[Gracie Kanan]

Yeah.

[Josh Arnold]

So are you. Are you dating?

[Gracie Kanan]

Am I dating in New York? Yeah, I am. Yeah, I. I am dating in New.

[Josh Arnold]

York and you're dating.

[Gracie Kanan]

Questions welcome.

[Josh Arnold]

Are you dating a guy with the same name as your old boy?

[Gracie Kanan]

Yeah, that's exclusively my criter, actually.

[Josh Arnold]

You.

[Gracie Kanan]

There's a filter by Hinge that you can do that by name. No, I am dating. I've been pretty cynical about it. Not in like a bad way, but I am seeing someone that is. Has been all green flags recently. So I gotta block him. Good for my brand.

[Josh Arnold]

If you want a cynical dating story. Yeah. Remember this from Nick, our friend, comedian Nick Griffin.

[Nick Griffin]

Which one?

[Josh Arnold]

He started. He said he was going to start dating and it was going to be a coffee date. And he said no matter. From this point forward, no matter who I met for coffee, I would end the date with a kiss. I was going. I was going to kiss that. That woman no matter what.

What was his. I don't. Because Nick's not that guy.

No, he's not that guy at all.

What was his?

The sweetest guy ever. But I, I don't. I think he thought it was from a comedian angle. He thought it would be interesting and might lead to some. And it didn't.

He also does kind of have a fear of commitment. So this is a. This is a like making sure no one. No one's gonna follow up.

He said you would not. I was in the parking lot of Avons and making out at 11:15 in the morning.

Oh, that one. That one went well. All right.

That one went well.

[Milana Vayntrub]

I feel like I might have gone on a date with this guy. I don't know who it is, but I've definitely been. Attempted to kiss at the end of a date and been like, there were no cues for you that this was okay. What makes you think you should lean in now?

[Nick Griffin]

Yeah. What an awkward moment.

[Josh Arnold]

Boy, there's nothing worse than lean in. The. The. Just the lean.

[Gracie Kanan]

Nothing worse. That's the best.

[Josh Arnold]

Well, no, it's awkward. I mean, not.

[Nick Griffin]

Not if it's not reciprocated.

[Gracie Kanan]

Sure. Yeah, that's. That is. Yeah. You kind of have to meet each other halfway. You know what I mean? Like that scene from Horse Whisperer.

[Nick Griffin]

Right.

[Gracie Kanan]

We. We are Horse Whisperer. Big chill. We are really getting niche today.

[Josh Arnold]

You have to let them come to you a little.

Another. No, not a current movie.

[Gracie Kanan]

Yeah.

[Josh Arnold]

So you guys are crisscrossing the country with crybabies. Okay. A lot of improv over here doing stand up and things. Is that what you're doing?

[Gracie Kanan]

Yeah.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Yeah. Well, we're both incredibly resourceful because we come from, like, broken childhoods and. And so we're constantly just trying to prove ourselves and any idea we have, we tried to capitalize on. And so standup is one of those things that we really enjoy doing. And it's such a self starter business, you know, like you really don't need much but a mic and an audience. And luckily people keep showing up to our shows, so. And I have a big, big hole in my heart that I could only fill with strangers laughter. So I have to keep doing it or I die.

[Josh Arnold]

You will pass away.

[Gracie Kanan]

I will. I will.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Thank you for laughing right now because I was getting low.

[Josh Arnold]

Yes. Yeah, I could sense it.

[Nick Griffin]

What's the name of your short?

[Milana Vayntrub]

It's called Booties.

[Gracie Kanan]

Booties. B O o T I E, apostrophe S. I know there's a lot of different.

[Josh Arnold]

Hey, Josh. Something about that ass, I think I.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Would imagine it's a little bit of ass in it.

[Josh Arnold]

Maybe some. Some pun work as well. Maybe also.

[Gracie Kanan]

No, there's no, there's not really.

[Milana Vayntrub]

It's just ass.

[Gracie Kanan]

It's 45 minutes, no dialogue.

[Josh Arnold]

I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I can't. Can't wait to watch it again.

[Milana Vayntrub]

All slow mo. It's just a slow mo of a thong walking away.

[Nick Griffin]

There you go.

[Gracie Kanan]

It's really fun.

[Josh Arnold]

When you both do stand up, do you also get on stage concurrently as well?

[Milana Vayntrub]

We should.

[Gracie Kanan]

I know people have been asking that, but I don't know. I. I would feel personally bad because I'm a little bit. Milana has bigger than me. Yeah. And I just would really overshadow you. No, no, no.

[Josh Arnold]

It's hard.

[Gracie Kanan]

Milana has like a really polished improv background, as you can kind of tell. And I'm more like a feral comedy raccoon. You know what I mean? I just have no filter and I come out, so it's like I wouldn't want to and say something insane. If I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna do it, like, separate from her. So she's like, I do not condone this.

[Milana Vayntrub]

And I think it would be weird for me because I love Gracie so much. I have so much respect for her, but she's also the easiest person to make fun of, so I just feel like I could possibly squash her.

[Gracie Kanan]

It's so much ammo. And I love it. I love it. It makes me feel so loved.

[Milana Vayntrub]

She has no secrets.

[Gracie Kanan]

No, it's really bad.

[Josh Arnold]

Well, maybe you could emcee one night, Josh, with the girls. You could.

[Gracie Kanan]

Yeah.

[Milana Vayntrub]

What are you doing tonight?

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah, tonight I do have no plans.

[Nick Griffin]

There you go.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

I don't emcee.

[Nick Griffin]

You have a good improv background.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah. It's been so long since I've emceed it's.

[Nick Griffin]

So funny.

[Josh Arnold]

All right, you can headline. How's that? Does that make you feel better? How about that?

It's been a couple months since I've headlined and I'm not any better at.

That either, so stick around for Josh.

We're here with our guests, Milana Vayntrub and Gracie Cannon. So great to have you. Milana, did you grow up on the West Coast?

[Milana Vayntrub]

I grew up in la. Yeah. My family's from Uzbekistan and we immigrated when I was about 2 years old, so right into West Hollywood, which, you know, used to be like the. The Tongva people land and then the Mexican California and then the Gold Rush and then just Soviet immigrants and now it's just gay people.

[Josh Arnold]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And. And Barney's Beanery.

[Nick Griffin]

Don't forget Barney's Beanery.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Yeah. Which I think has also been co opted by gay people and is only better now for it.

[Gracie Kanan]

Right?

[Josh Arnold]

They do beans better.

I. I was having beans there one day. It needs to gay up around in here.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Yeah, that's what everyone always says.

[Josh Arnold]

Needs to gay up around in here.

What? Hetero. Anyway, so.

And you're an east coaster.

[Gracie Kanan]

Yeah, I mean, well, I'm actually also from la, but then I moved out for college. I was like, Providence, Philly. And I was just like, I love it out here. People are mean and I feel safe. Like, people are like creepily too nice in la. And I was like, I don't. Like, I grew up there, but I was like, I don't think I fit in here. And then, yeah, now I'm an East coast girly. So now I've been in Brooklyn for like 10 years.

[Josh Arnold]

We've been. The Billy Joel documentary just dropped on hbo, Max. And we've been watching it and talking about it off the air. And that was one of the big moments in his career is when he decided, you know, I'm leaving, I'm leaving Hollywood, I'm going back to New York. And it was really.

[Gracie Kanan]

I saw him at msg.

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah.

[Gracie Kanan]

Yeah, he's.

[Josh Arnold]

It was just amazing, I guess, where his creative fire was so different when he got. Yeah. When he got back to New York and you know, Billy Joel is New York when you think about it.

Sure. Would you say the LA niceness felt fake to you, or did it?

[Gracie Kanan]

Well, I grew up in the suburbs and I was just like, even growing up, like, I didn't know anything else, but I was like, it feels very clean and weird and I just don't fit in here. I was like the weird, moody theater kid and it was just very, like. I just. I was like. It just didn't feel normal. And then as soon as I landed in Providence for college, like, the bus stop, and I'm like, people are insane here. It is cold. I just. I. I don't know. It's like I have Stockholm syndrome. There's something about it where it's like, I need the chaos to have, like, inner peace. Otherwise, if it's too peaceful around me, I caused too much chaos. There has to be chaos. So I'd rather it be on the outside, but yeah. Yeah.

[Josh Arnold]

Milana, have you lived anywhere else?

[Milana Vayntrub]

Yes, I've lived in New York for a little bit. I went to school in San Diego. But LA is home and I think superior to most other places.

[Josh Arnold]

Yes.

[Gracie Kanan]

And one of those.

[Josh Arnold]

I'm one of those.

[Milana Vayntrub]

No, it is my favorite place also. My family lives there. Like, generations of family live there. And I have a son, and so I just. It's just nice to all be together, you know? You have kids that live in Chicago, and that sucks that they did that to you.

[Nick Griffin]

Yeah, it does.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Are you mad at them?

[Nick Griffin]

Yeah, of course. I let them know every day. How did you desert your mother?

[Josh Arnold]

Do you go, are you that direct? You're not direct. It's a subtle imply.

[Nick Griffin]

Of course. I'm passive aggressive.

[Josh Arnold]

Just like. I'm not.

[Nick Griffin]

Come on.

[Josh Arnold]

Well, if you think that's best.

[Nick Griffin]

Yeah. All right. Well, I guess I don't need to see you on Mother's Day. And then there's next year when I die.

[Milana Vayntrub]

I won't need you to visit my grave.

[Josh Arnold]

It's fine.

Don't come visit now.

[Nick Griffin]

Certainly.

[Josh Arnold]

Marisa, do you have a lot of, I imagine a lot of friends in New York City, but do you also seek guidance elsewhere? Do you see therapists or.

[Gracie Kanan]

Hell, yeah, Absolutely. Do you think I'm held together by duct tape? Josh. Okay, this is amazing. Yeah. You have to. It's. I. I think it should be a requirement when people move to New York. Most people are in therapy, but I think it should be a requirement. Like, you pull in, you take a deli number. You cannot have, like, 9 million people with unresolved mommy issues living on top of each other. That's where things get dicey. But, yeah, I have a new therapist. My Last one was 23 years old. Yeah. Insane.

[Josh Arnold]

Well, that would just make me ang.

[Gracie Kanan]

She was like, oh, my God, you deserve healing queen. And I was like, your brain is not fully developed. But, you know, it's good. It's good to take action. It's good to show up, but. Yeah. What about you? What do you.

[Josh Arnold]

I do. Yeah. I have graduated to once a month.

[Gracie Kanan]

Oh.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Weaning therapy.

[Josh Arnold]

I plan on doing it for the rest of my life because I do think it's.

[Gracie Kanan]

You didn't win.

[Josh Arnold]

Fantastic.

[Gracie Kanan]

No, you didn't win a therapy.

[Josh Arnold]

I'm not a champion yet.

[Nick Griffin]

I've had a therapist say, you don't need to come anymore. I go, what did they say?

[Josh Arnold]

You don't need to come anymore or please don't come here?

[Nick Griffin]

Well, maybe I heard I need to.

[Josh Arnold]

Talk to that therapist. I mean, that's wonderful.

[Nick Griffin]

It is kind of weird to hear that.

[Gracie Kanan]

Well, you really are. I've never heard it. They're like, you gotta triple up. If we're gonna make progress, you gotta quit your job. We're doing electroshock, baby.

[Josh Arnold]

I've had. Well, that's our hour. What are you doing after lunch? It's what I've had.

Can you come back?

Yeah. Can you come back? Double up? I can't. I can't have you out there wandering around.

Jeff. Are you guys currently seeing therapists or. No, I had to stop because mine was too young and I. I just felt old. And she didn't re.

She didn't flirt with you, right? Is that.

Oh, no, that's not.

[Milana Vayntrub]

She didn't flirt back with you?

[Josh Arnold]

No.

[Gracie Kanan]

There was no making out in the Vons. Let's just put it that way.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Do you always kiss your therapist at the.

[Nick Griffin]

Of a session?

[Josh Arnold]

She was hot. I gladly would have kissed her at the end of the session.

[Nick Griffin]

Wasn't it harder to talk to her, though?

[Josh Arnold]

No, I. No, I. I could care. Hot girls aren't interested in me. I'm not worried about running them off. They already ran, so I just. I'm honest. Mine. I have a. My therapist is a female. Yeah.

[Nick Griffin]

Is she attractive?

[Josh Arnold]

Yeah, sure.

Yeah.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Yeah.

[Josh Arnold]

But I'm not. I don't think of her that way, really.

[Nick Griffin]

Okay.

[Josh Arnold]

So. I mean, I guarantee you she. She thinks of me that way.

[Milana Vayntrub]

I think my therapist is my best friend. And we laugh and I know stories about her life. I've seen her for 10 years. And then at the end of the session, when I get a Venmo request, I'm like, how dare you?

[Josh Arnold]

I thought we had something.

I mean, I had something special.

[Milana Vayntrub]

You couldn't comp this one friend, right?

[Nick Griffin]

He's just made for coffee. I'll buy him.

[Milana Vayntrub]

No, I feel like you're getting as much out of this as I am.

[Josh Arnold]

You ever catch him looking at the clock?

I hate That I never have. In fact, she'll go over with me. Me.

[Milana Vayntrub]

Maybe she does like have one. Maybe I have a. Oh, maybe you've won therapy.

[Josh Arnold]

Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She. In fact, you know what she said last time?

[Nick Griffin]

What'd she say?

[Milana Vayntrub]

That you're her funniest client.

[Josh Arnold]

I can use her grounding mat for free.

[Nick Griffin]

Oh, that's right.

[Josh Arnold]

If I ever had to go in. What's that? That. Are you guys familiar with the grounding sheets or grounding mat? So grounding, like real grounding is you go outside barefoot.

[Nick Griffin]

Right.

[Josh Arnold]

And the you're stepping dog crap. It's a good way to get hookworms. Yes. It also the electricity in your body aligns with that of the earth and it's supposed to be anti inflammatory. All these things.

[Nick Griffin]

Okay, so there's a grounding mat.

[Josh Arnold]

Sure.

Yeah, yeah.

[Milana Vayntrub]

For people who can't go outside.

[Josh Arnold]

Right, right. It's really agoraphobic.

Is it just because they're imprisoned? Doesn't she have a restroom?

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[Gracie Kanan]

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[Milana Vayntrub]

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