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Christopher
Welcome back. It's another Bob and Tom extra. This is Christopher. Not only is the Bob and Tom show live every weekday morning, but every afternoon we'll give you a little extra in case you missed anything. Coming up on the big show today, Edwin McCain plus cat proof Christmas trees coming up in just a minute.
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Dick Mango
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Dick Mango. Grandma got molested at the airport.
Bob Kevoian
Thank you. Thank you.
Dick Mango
Flying home to our house Christmas Day. The perpetrator wasn't any pervert. He was an agent with the tsa. Grandma checked it at the airport. She thought everything was fine until she went through security. And then agent said, please step out of the line.
Tom Griswold
Thank you.
Dick Mango
Then he put his rubber gloves on and Grandma's heart began to race. When he finished his inspection. You couldn't wipe the smile off Grandma's face. Grandma got molested at the airport. Everybody. Flying home to our house Christmas Day. The perpetrator wasn't any pervert. He was an agent with the tsa. Now Grandma's always at the airport.
Christopher
But.
Dick Mango
She ain't flying anywhere. She just wants another pat down. And this time she ain't wearing underwear. So this Christmas, if you're looking for some action, maybe a quick romantic rendezvous, just stop by your nearest airport and ask the TSA agent if hill fondle you. Grandma got molested at the airport. Flying home to our house Christmas day. Everybody. The perpetrator wasn't any pervert. He was an agent with the tsa.
Bob Kevoian
Thank you.
Dick Mango
My name is Dick Mango. Merry Christmas.
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Missed something.
Edwin McCain
Here you go.
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We'll try to catch you up this Is Bob and Tom extra?
Bob Kevoian
You know, we have to behave. We have a guest in the studio.
Tom Griswold
Yeah, well, I don't know about that, Edwin.
Bob Kevoian
Are you a meat eater? Yes. Okay, good, because I'm going to send you a case of Omaha Steaks.
Edwin McCain
Right on.
Tom Griswold
Yeah.
Bob Kevoian
But I was expl. I. Every Christmas, this is one of my favorite gifts because, like, my brothers, for example, live in different places than I do by choice. And. But I'll send them mistakes, but you gotta. The trick is, you got to make sure they're home.
Edwin McCain
Okay.
Bob Kevoian
You know, so. Hey, John, are you going to be in Florida? Are you going to be in Michigan? Want to send them? Because the stakes, they last a while, but they're not going to last forever on the porch.
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Yeah.
Edwin McCain
Some drunken raccoon is going to show.
Bob Kevoian
Up, run off with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll find out what your schedule is. And are you doing some road work or are you just hanging out?
Edwin McCain
So I went up to Chicago a couple of nights ago to do a benefit for the Concussion Foundation.
Bob Kevoian
Oh.
Edwin McCain
And we did it at Billy Corgan's place in Highland Park. And I, I. I exercised my superpower of embarrassing myself in front of extremely famous people. It's like my. My superpowers. I can say the exact wrong thing in front of famous people. And I. Billy Corrigan has now joined the list of someone I've completely said something stupid in front of. So.
Bob Kevoian
Wow.
Edwin McCain
Sorry, Billy.
Bob Kevoian
Can you repeat it?
Edwin McCain
Yeah, well, no, he was just being nice. He didn't know who I was. He came there after I had played or whatever. And so he was totally being nice. I was. And I was saying thank you. And he literally was like, yeah, I heard a lot of good things about your guitar playing. Which tells me he doesn't know anything about me. No one's ever said anything nice about my guitar playing. And all I had to say was, thanks, man, and just leave. Not this guy. I was like, well, I'm actually known as more of a singer. And then there was this pregnant pause where he's just staring at me and I'm just staring at him. And I was like, okay, I'll see you later. And now add that to the list of the things that while I'm brushing my teeth in the morning, staring in the mirror, and I have to go.
Christy Lee
Oh, God, you said that.
Bob Kevoian
It's amazing. Those Momos cringe moments. I'll remember them from 40 years ago.
Christy Lee
Yeah, we all have them.
Edwin McCain
But now, you know, I'm just like, who's next? Who's Gonna be next. Somebody here in this room today. I feel probably.
Bob Kevoian
Good. We'll look forward to it. Edwin McCain is a distinguished singer songwriter. If you're not familiar with his work, Number one song a few years back, which is, I think more than Billy Corrigan can say.
Edwin McCain
No, it was probably. I think it was three. It was four.
Bob Kevoian
Three or four.
Edwin McCain
You know who would know is my middle son because he doesn't let me get by with any fibbing.
Bob Kevoian
Oh, really?
Edwin McCain
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He, he actually ran into my room. He's like, hey, you know how your song was like the longest in the longest running in the Hot 100? Just got beat.
Bob Kevoian
Hey, thanks.
Edwin McCain
Yeah, they had like a tab open or something on his computer. I was like, thanks, buddy.
Bob Kevoian
Like, when you drop from 1 to 2, I'll be very famous song. Did Billy Corgan and the Smashing Pumpkins have a number one?
Edwin McCain
I'm sure imagine I would have to say, like without fear of contradiction, that he was probably as culturally significant as an artist in the 90s as anyone, right. And so he just came off of like a three night run at one of the opera houses in Chicago where they did a hundred pieces, 100 piece orchestra and opera. And they, they all of his music. And it was sold out for three.
Bob Kevoian
I just read that.
Tom Griswold
Yeah, if they don't have a number one, they at least have 15. Two threes and fours.
Edwin McCain
Right.
Bob Kevoian
I just heard that the Smashing Pumpkins band name, I always thought it was, hey, that's, you know, funny. From Halloween. Smashing. Apparently he says, no, it's. He was over in England and someone said, oh, that's a Smashing Pumpkin. Which takes all the fun out of it.
Christy Lee
What?
Tom Griswold
Corgan will occasionally take all the fun out of things. I've seen plenty of interviews.
Bob Kevoian
Okay. Really?
Edwin McCain
I saw, I saw. He's actually kind of experiencing a bit of a reckoning because he said that part of that him sort of being prickly was their inside joke and him kind of pulling an Andy Kaufman on people. But now he's got this reputation for being. And he's not really like. He's a lovely, lovely guy. Oh, good, good. But he, but he's had to kind of backtrack that a little bit. And I totally get that because we used to do stupid stuff like that in our 20s. Like everybody in the band would give me a word that I had to work into an interview and there would be. It would be ridiculous. Like I'd be in. But it couldn't be non sequitur. It had to go with the flow. And it was. And if I didn't get their word in, I owed him 20 bucks. And so yeah, there were a lot of times where I'm sure people were.
Bob Kevoian
Like, what is up with this guy.
Edwin McCain
Comparing his music to a washing machine?
Bob Kevoian
And what is dildography?
Edwin McCain
Yeah, why did he mention.
Bob Kevoian
What does dildography have to do with songwriting at the man? I was tearing up during his tune. But let's move over to the news desk, the Silac Insurance news desk with Christy Lee, see what's going on. Then we'll get a song if we can out of Mr. McCain. What have you got?
Christy Lee
It's the holidays and we're all gearing up for Christmas. We have a couple of Christmas stories for you today. If you have Attack. If you have a cat that's attacking your Christmas tree, There is a British company out there selling the so called cat proof Christmas tree. Argos half tree only features the top half of an artificial Christmas tree, which the company said is perfect for keeping baubles, bows and bells out of reach of curious crawling kids or your cat's playful paws. Now, we all know cats can jump into a tree, so I don't know how this is going to prevent a cat.
Bob Kevoian
It's just the upper half of the tree and then there's essentially a pole.
Christy Lee
Yeah, they added that. The six foot tall tree also provides plenty of room to stack presents underneath. That'll look ridiculous.
Bob Kevoian
Yeah. Okay, so you could make one of these.
Christy Lee
Yeah, just don't put, put your tree down.
Bob Kevoian
Put the tree up. Then just take some cut, cut a cutting tool and cut off the bottom half of the tree.
Christy Lee
Right.
Bob Kevoian
It's gonna look ridiculous. Do we have a photograph of this thing?
Tom Griswold
If your cat wants to get at the ornaments. It will.
Christy Lee
That's right. It'll jump right up there.
Tom Griswold
I mean, you're almost better off having them at the bottom. So you just bat them off and that's it.
Christy Lee
And they don't knock your whole. Oh, look at that.
Bob Kevoian
They got, they got stacks and stacks of presents. Now the cattle just climb up there.
Tom Griswold
And it doesn't look terrible. You guys think it looks terrible?
Edwin McCain
I do, yeah.
Christy Lee
Terrible, silly.
Tom Griswold
It kind of works. It's almost like a Christmas tree. Palm tree.
Christy Lee
Yeah.
Bob Kevoian
Oh, I see. That's a good point. Or a stripper pole Christmas tree, dude.
Tom Griswold
I mean, they could do this.
Edwin McCain
Every time I see something like this, I think there was like a, you know, there was a meeting. There was a meeting. There was a people around the table and somebody went, you know, I have an idea. And they all went, yes.
Christy Lee
What's that set you back? Do we know the price point on that thing?
Bob Kevoian
It was not expensive.
Christy Lee
Okay.
Tom Griswold
It better be a third of a Christmas tree.
Christy Lee
A Christmas tree farm in New Jersey is making news. They're under fire for spray painting fir trees. Wyckoff's Christmas tree calls itself New Jersey's original colored tree farm. They offer trees in nine different shades. Pink, purple, dark blue, light blue, blue, turquoise, magenta, red and black.
Bob Kevoian
These are real trees, by the way. They're not. They're not fake trees.
Christy Lee
While it may be the 12 time winner of the New Jersey Christmas Tree Growers Association's Grand Champion Award, not everyone is a fan of this Rainbow Grove. According to the New York Post, one social media user complained that the farm is spraying poison everywhere.
Tom Griswold
Oh, yeah, yeah. Don't poison the trees. We're going to cut down there.
Bob Kevoian
Okay, There's a photograph. They're. They're very odd looking.
Edwin McCain
Come over here, sizzle neck. I got blue, magenta, purple.
Bob Kevoian
I called this one Spruce Springsteen. He's from Jersey, you know. God.
Tom Griswold
I think it'll look cool.
Christy Lee
I do look kind of cool. I have to. I mean, if you do the.
Bob Kevoian
I'm from Hoboken, I gave my three a spray tan.
Christy Lee
If you do the themed Christmas tree deal, it's perfect.
Edwin McCain
Have you ever thought that your Christmas tree wasn't quite flammable enough?
Bob Kevoian
What is that? Flocking is the.
Christy Lee
Yeah, flocking is when you just spray that white stuff on it so it looks like snow.
Bob Kevoian
So what's the trick to that? Do you have to. You have to do that before you put the ornaments on it?
Tom Griswold
I think so, yeah.
Christy Lee
Otherwise happened to flocking or.
Edwin McCain
Yeah, I know that's gone, so. Yeah. You ever noticed that?
Bob Kevoian
You know why tinsel is gone? Do you have a dog?
Edwin McCain
It did suck.
Bob Kevoian
If you have a dog and your dog eats tinsel. I have been there.
Tom Griswold
Yeah.
Bob Kevoian
If your dog will eat the tinsel and then about a day later you're doing this surgical procedure where you're.
Christy Lee
My mother. Did your mother or your father spend hours putting those little icicles on the tree?
Tom Griswold
Every year would get furious if you didn't do them one at a time.
Edwin McCain
And the little bubble lights.
Christy Lee
Oh, yeah.
Edwin McCain
They got to be the temperature of the sun.
Christy Lee
I have one of those nightlights. The bubble light. Nightlight. I love it. I love it.
Bob Kevoian
If your dog eats the. Well, same thing is true. You want sidewalk chalk?
Christy Lee
Yeah.
Bob Kevoian
If your dog eats the sidewalk chalk and then a couple days later you've got these rainbow turds all over you. But Yeah, I recall this sort of dangling thing from a golden retriever. Dangling by a little bit of silver. Yeah.
Edwin McCain
We.
Bob Kevoian
We no longer do the.
Christy Lee
I don't know any. I haven't seen a tree with. I. I called them icicles.
Edwin McCain
Yeah.
Christy Lee
Because tinsel, to me you could still wrap. You know that.
Edwin McCain
I haven't seen one since kid.
Bob Kevoian
Yeah, I think it's gone out of fashion.
Christy Lee
Yeah, I think so.
Bob Kevoian
Some. The. The tinsel king of Hoboken.
Tom Griswold
How about that?
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What happened?
Tom Griswold
I don't have any more.
Edwin McCain
How about pop Popcorn string.
Tom Griswold
Is that being done? I've never actually seen it.
Christy Lee
I have never seen it.
Tom Griswold
Should I take that back? We did it in elementary school once.
Bob Kevoian
Huge mistake.
Edwin McCain
It was like all day and everybody either they made us do it with cranberries and you end up like, with holes all your hands.
Bob Kevoian
Yeah.
Edwin McCain
Using these giant sewing needles.
Tom Griswold
The next year, we ended up doing green and red construction paper strips we had to glue in the rear.
Christy Lee
We did those 80s.
Tom Griswold
So monotonous.
Edwin McCain
Labor intensive.
Bob Kevoian
Shane.
Edwin McCain
I love telling my children stories like this because they just.
Christy Lee
They.
Edwin McCain
They look at me like. Like we were suffering abuse, you know, like they had us. They had us locked in a cave making popcorn.
Bob Kevoian
Oh, I wanted to do the popcorn thing.
Christy Lee
You did.
Bob Kevoian
That was. I mean, when I was a kid, we did it one time.
Christy Lee
Doesn't the popcorn fall apart?
Bob Kevoian
Yeah, it was. It smelled awful and it was. Yeah, yeah. So younger brother would eat one and get sick. Now. Are you doing. I. We have a real tree in the living room. Then we've got a bunch of fake ones in other places. But do you have a real tree or a fake one?
Edwin McCain
Not anymore. So we. We had real trees for a while and. And then one year, my wife got this great idea that we should go out to our farm and cut a tree down and do it like super old school.
Tom Griswold
Yeah.
Edwin McCain
And then the tree the kids picked was a cedar tree. And I don't know if you've ever been around a cedar tree. You might as well just go over to a briar bush and cut down a briar bush, because you're gonna be cut up and bloody. Because cedar trees are gnarly. And the kids called that tree the big prick after that. We've had a fake tree ever since.
Bob Kevoian
I did that once, and it was freezing cold and you have to lie down under the tree and they give you a relatively dull saw. And what I didn't think of was all the stuff falling into my eyes from the tree. So. And, and it gets it like saws getting all gum up from the SAP and. Yeah, that was a, that's a one time only.
Edwin McCain
It was a fun family thing to do once.
Bob Kevoian
Yeah. But I still have real trees. I've been going to the same tree place for I don't know, 30 plus years, whatever. But I like having the real tree.
Christy Lee
Yeah.
Bob Kevoian
And then just before we go on our trip, the thing is crispy and ready to come down and somebody takes.
Christy Lee
It down for you while you're on vacation. That's a nice thing to have.
Bob Kevoian
I've taken it down on vacation. I have helped shade there.
Christy Lee
She. I think next year we're gonna do a real tree. My husband's real into that and now we have a space. We can put one.
Bob Kevoian
But it is a great family event. But I'm sure, now that I think about it, my youngest, they don't even remember it. They were so little. They were sitting on the snowmobile freezing while I'm on the ground. This is a great idea. This is a tradition we're gonna do forever. But I like to support the tree farm. So if you're gonna do that, I'm just saying take your goggles from. Take your swimming goggles and a face.
Edwin McCain
Mask, an electric chainsaw.
Bob Kevoian
Oh, I mean, what else. What other goggles do I have?
Tom Griswold
Safety goggles.
Edwin McCain
Safety goggle.
Bob Kevoian
They're your. Then it's going to fly in from the sides. The swimming goggles at least to protect your eyes and put a face mask.
Tom Griswold
Where are your swimming goggles?
Edwin McCain
You do you, you do you.
Tom Griswold
Yeah.
Bob Kevoian
I mean, you're not going to look ridiculous with a face mask on. And swimming goggles lying down in the snow with a crappy saw that won't cut through as you're cursing.
Christy Lee
Why don't you bring your own saw?
Bob Kevoian
Yeah, I didn't think to. I thought it was part of the deal. There's 200 bucks now you're going to drag me out there in a tractor to freeze to death. But I highly recommend it. It was fun.
Christy Lee
Yeah, it sounds great.
Bob Kevoian
Yeah. I don't want to, I want, I want to encourage people to support all the Christmas tree farmers.
Christy Lee
Of course.
Bob Kevoian
It's a, it's a fun thing. As opposed to the, you know, factory in Japan where there's a river full of some kind of toxic waste so you can have a nice, nice holiday pre lit tree.
Christy Lee
Oh my gosh, I love my pre lit tree.
Bob Kevoian
Okay, well, I'm just saying, I'm sure there's many, many kids out there that have an extra finger because.
Tom Griswold
Yeah, but they're in Japan. We don't have to look at them. Yeah, yeah. That just helps. The mitten makers, do you suppose they.
Bob Kevoian
Wonder, like, what the hell they're doing in these factories in China?
Tom Griswold
I don't know.
Bob Kevoian
Why are we doing this?
Tom Griswold
I like to think there are TVs everywhere showing, like, us enjoying the products they're making.
Bob Kevoian
How about the places where they make those adult toys? That's got to be.
Tom Griswold
Hopefully they don't have children.
Bob Kevoian
Hopefully. Yeah.
Edwin McCain
Well, there's probably a direct correlation to how much they wonder to how many of those big nets on the outside of the building there are.
Tom Griswold
Yeah, exactly.
Edwin McCain
Yeah.
Bob Kevoian
And while we're doing the size 10 scrotums today, I'm not coming in. I told Mondor I will not do the size tens this year. That's on him. Okay, well, we have a guest in the studio. He's very talented, but we're not letting him do anything. He's Edwin McCain. Are you touring at all this winter?
Edwin McCain
I don't think so.
Christy Lee
But you have a Christmas album, don't you?
Edwin McCain
Yeah, that's. You know, this is. This has been the running joke. So this album, I did this in, like, 2009 or something, and it was universally rejected by every record label in the country. And so it sat on a hard drive in a. In a drawer for years. And then a few years ago, I was like, don't we have a Christmas album somewhere? And I dug it out, and I kind of dig it. And it was like, there's some really great players on it. We kind of did this New Orleans kind of thing for Christmas record, but even my friends don't like it, and I like it. And so it's kind of become this thing. It's like my little misfit toy of a Christmas record. Like, most. Like, 80% of the people that I know that like my music hate this record. And so it makes it even better for me. And now it's a running joke because my daughter loves Michael Buble's Christmas album.
Christy Lee
Yeah, I gotta. I gotta side with her on that. That's a pretty good one.
Bob Kevoian
But is it traditional Christmas songs, or do you have any originals?
Edwin McCain
Yeah, it's all Christmas songs. Well, there's. There's one original that my guitar player Larry wrote, and then the rest of them are just standard Christmas songs. But it was, you know, Ivan Neville's on there, and Eddie Bears is playing drums, and it's a. It's a funky Christmas.
Bob Kevoian
Maybe you'd play one of them.
Edwin McCain
Well, I. Yeah, maybe.
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Edwin McCain
Yeah, Jason, put one up.
Tom Griswold
Pot.
Edwin McCain
One pot up. Frosty. Frosty's a good one.
Bob Kevoian
Is that the traditional Frosty?
Edwin McCain
Yeah, but it's funky.
Bob Kevoian
Okay.
Edwin McCain
Yeah.
Tom Griswold
Send us the mpeg.
Edwin McCain
Yeah, there you go.
Tom Griswold
We'll get it.
Edwin McCain
I can send you the 2 inch reel with all the grease pencil notes on it.
Christopher
That's it for another Bob and Tom show. Extra. Catch us on itunes, Google Play and Stitcher for Bob and Tom. Extra. This is Christopher. Take care, everybody.
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Episode: B&T Extra: Edwin McCain & Catproof Christmas Trees
Date: January 1, 2026
Host: The BOB & TOM Show | Cumulus Podcast Network
Featured Guest: Edwin McCain
This episode of The BOB & TOM Show Free Podcast Extra delivers trademark comedic banter and lighthearted conversation centered on holiday traditions, cat-proof Christmas trees, and colorful Christmas customs. Acclaimed singer-songwriter Edwin McCain joins the cast for stories about music, touring, and his quirky “misfit toy” Christmas album, bringing humor and humility to both his career highlights and self-embarrassing moments. The group also dives into the evolving landscape of Christmas trees, reminiscing about past customs and poking fun at new innovations.
“Now Grandma’s always at the airport. But she ain’t flying anywhere. She just wants another pat down. And this time she ain’t wearing underwear.” – Dick Mango (02:41)
“Billy Corgan has now joined the list of someone I’ve completely said something stupid in front of… I was like, ‘Well, I’m actually known as more of a singer.’ And then there was this pregnant pause…” – Edwin McCain (05:00)
“My middle son… doesn’t let me get by with any fibbing.” – Edwin McCain (06:19)
“Now, we all know cats can jump into a tree, so I don’t know how this is going to prevent a cat.” – Christy Lee (09:20)
“If your cat wants to get at the ornaments, it will.” – Tom Griswold (09:57)
“Just take a cutting tool, cut off the bottom half…” – Bob Kevoian (09:49)
“Every time I see something like this, I think there was a meeting… and they all went, yes.” – Edwin McCain (10:35)
“Come over here, Sizzle Neck. I got blue, magenta, purple…” – Edwin McCain (11:42)
“I called this one Spruce Springsteen. He’s from Jersey, you know.” – Bob Kevoian (11:47)
“If your dog eats the tinsel… you’re doing this surgical procedure.” – Bob Kevoian (12:40)
“It was like all day… you end up with holes all in your hands.” – Edwin McCain on making cranberry-popcorn garlands (14:03)
“You might as well just go over to a briar bush and cut down a briar bush, ‘cause you’re gonna be cut up and bloody.” – Edwin McCain (15:16)
“You have to lie down under the tree and they give you a relatively dull saw…” – Bob Kevoian (15:41)
“I’m sure there’s many, many kids out there that have an extra finger because…” – Bob Kevoian (18:01)
“There’s probably a direct correlation to how much they wonder to how many of those big nets on the outside of the building…” – Edwin McCain (18:34)
“Like 80% of the people that I know that like my music hate this record. And so it makes it even better for me.” – Edwin McCain (19:40)
“Frosty’s a good one… but it’s funky.” – Edwin McCain (20:27)
The conversation is classic BOB & TOM: sharp, irreverent, and rapid-fire with playful ribbing and punchlines, even when guests like Edwin McCain share self-deprecating stories or talk about personal projects. There’s warmth as hosts reminisce about holidays past and poke fun at new consumer fads, always with a wink and a laugh.