B&T Extra: Football great Joe Theisman

Summary

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The BOB & TOM Show Extra: Conversation with Football Great Joe Theismann

Episode Date: February 23, 2026
Main Guest: Joe Theismann
Hosts: Tom Griswold, Bob Kevoian
Format: Comedy, talk, sports
Duration: ~18 minutes
Note: Sponsored segments and intros/outros omitted in summary.

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Episode Overview

In this lively "Extra" episode, the BOB & TOM crew welcomes legendary NFL quarterback and broadcaster Joe Theismann for an engaging, opinionated, and lighthearted discussion on current football topics. The conversation jumps between the challenges coaches face, weather’s impact on games, memorable games from Theismann’s career, NFL and college football trends, and—inevitably—a debate about the top food at Super Bowl parties.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Playing Football in Harsh Weather

• Fairness of Outdoor Conditions
  • Tom and Bob debate whether games should be played outdoors in harsh weather, with Tom arguing it’s unfair, and Joe weighing in:
    • Joe Theismann (06:10):
      “The elements are the same for everybody. It's a question of how you handle them. ... The game slows down when the weather gets like that. The game does slow down a bit, and the footing becomes a very, very important part of it.”
  • Joe recalls a game in Tampa under a torrential downpour and a frigid game in Buffalo at minus 5°F, emphasizing that weather can be a major factor in football.
    • Joe Theismann (10:15):
      “It rained so hard that the water was cascading down the steps in the stadium like a waterfall... And then early on in my career, we played The Buffalo Bills ... minus 5 degrees. And you just. There's nowhere to hide from it.”

2. NFL Coaching Carousel and Job Security

• Discussion about increasing coach turnover, referencing respected names:
  • Joe Theismann (06:48):
    “You look at John Harbaugh, after all that he's done in Baltimore. Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. 19 years. Sometimes you just reach a point where maybe you want a change of scenery or possibly ownership wants a change of scenery...”
• Cleveland Browns’ unusual “essay” job application process:
  • Joe Theismann (07:38):
    “They were, you know, asking coaches to write essays. And they were doing a lot of analytics regarding the search for a head coach. And analytics are fine in certain situations. Football is still a game of instincts. It's a game of personalities.”
• Quips about coaches possibly using AI to write application essays.

3. Modern NFL Decision-Making & Fourth-Down Trends

• Field Goals vs. Going for It on Fourth Down
  • Tom questions why teams (like the Broncos) skip field goal attempts. Joe provides context:
    • Joe Theismann (09:02):
      “Depending upon where we are on the field. Depending upon how well your defense is playing... But I really feel like this will give coaches a pause when it comes to fourth downs and not taking points in a game like that.”
  • Emphasis on trusting your defense, especially with a backup QB: “You want to get points on the board. Make New England chase you.”

4. Assessing This Season's Super Bowl and Team Dynamics

• Young QBs and Team Prospects
  • Seattle’s defense vs. New England’s Drake May; praise for Sam Darnold’s journey and current form.
    • Joe Theismann (11:33):
      “Seattle's defense is going to put a lot of pressure on Drake May... I'm looking at this football game right now. I think the way Sam Darnold is playing, I don't know if anybody can beat him with the weapons that he has around him.”
• Challenges with shifting lineups:
  • Joe Theismann (13:45):
    “You just can't win in the NFL if you're shuffling a deck all the time at the quarterback position.”

5. College Football: NIL and Team-Building Challenges

• The impact of NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) and free agency-like transfers:
  • Joe Theismann (14:19):
    “College football has become professional football. And the difference is, you don't have one owner paying for people, and you don't have a salary cap... I just wonder sometimes when you go out and pay all this money ... and you don't accomplish what you want, do you keep pouring money in or do you try and build some sense of continuity?”
• On continuity and the NCAA’s fading role:
  • Joe Theismann (15:19):
    “They have to put something in place that allows some continuity in college football... Buy one here, buy one there, and good luck to you.”

6. Super Bowl Party Food Survey—A Running Gag

• The Bizarre “Baked Potato” Survey
  • Hosts ask Joe to guess the most popular Super Bowl party food, promising $5 for the right answer.
    • Joe Theismann (16:00):
      “I would probably go with chicken wings. ...”
    • Bob Kevoian (16:14):
      “An excellent guess. ... However, the answer was baked potatoes.”
  • Banter about baked potatoes dominating parties, with Joe feigning disbelief and sarcasm.
    • Joe Theismann (16:22):
      “I've seen a lot of those at Super Bowl parties. The first thing I do when I walk in and say, listen, if you don't have baked potatoes, I'm leaving.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On weather’s fairness in football:
  • “The elements are the same for everybody. It's a question of how you handle them.” —Joe Theismann (06:10)
• On coaching job applications:
  • “They're sending out resumes and asking coaches to write essays, which boggles my mind... It'll be interesting to see who has the best essay.” —Joe Theismann (06:48)
• On field goals vs. aggressive play-calling:
  • “Points are a premium. Whether it's three or seven doesn't matter... This will give coaches a pause when it comes to fourth downs and not taking points in a game like that.” —Joe Theismann (09:02)
• Super Bowl party essential:
  • “The first thing I do when I walk in and say, listen, if you don't have baked potatoes, I'm leaving.” —Joe Theismann (16:22)

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Timeline of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------------| | 05:14 | Joe Theismann joins the show | | 06:10 | Debate on playing football in harsh weather | | 06:46 | Coaching carousel and Cleveland’s essay job search | | 07:55 | Football as a game of instincts, personalities | | 08:32 | Field goals vs. fourth-down calls in modern NFL | | 10:15 | Theismann’s worst weather games as a player | | 11:33 | Super Bowl preview—Seattle’s defense, Darnold’s rise | | 13:08 | NFL team health/injuries and continuity | | 14:19 | NIL, college football free agency, and stability concerns | | 16:00 | Super Bowl party food gag; the baked potato survey | | 17:27 | Theismann on his Super Bowl week duties, safety reminder |

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Tone, Style, and Final Thoughts

As always, the BOB & TOM Show blends humor, teasing, and analysis. Joe Theismann comes off as knowledgeable, candid, and quick-witted, effortlessly bantering with the hosts while still sinking his teeth into nuanced football topics. The running gag about baked potatoes at Super Bowl parties adds levity, while the segment closes with Theismann encouraging fans to be safe during Super Bowl festivities.

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For listeners and non-listeners alike, this episode offers:

• Expert commentary on trending football issues
• Candid football stories and perspectives from a legendary player
• The playful, irreverent energy that BOB & TOM Show fans expect

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Transcript

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[Christopher]

Welcome back. It's another Bob and Tom Extra. This is Christopher. Not only is the Bob and Tom show live every weekday morning, but every afternoo we'll give you a little extra. In case you missed anything on the big show today, it's Joe Theisman. He's coming up in just a minute.

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[Comedian/Guest]

Here boy. Come on, come on, come on. My dog's been talking to me and I ain't wild about the conversation. He was originally contracted As a sweet but loyal mute. Now he's turned into a speechifying yakety go. And I gotta tell you folks, I don't know what it was I expected, but his choice of subjects is what really stinks. The way it talks about cats and squirrels and sets your ears to ring. And don't you get him started on that spaying neuter thing. You know, you can only just hear so much about marking territory, technique and such. Hey, quit looking at me, buddy. Anybody can see that my dog's been talking to me. Now he don't like that dry dog food no matter how clean his teeth it will make. Well, he would rather snack from a hefty sack and then brush with a fluoride paste. Sit. I said sit. What do you mean you got. I said sit. Now if you've taken the time to examine your doggies lips, you find the sides are floppy and serrated and right up under his nose. Why his lips they barely meet. And his tongue is way too big for proper enunciation in his speech. So consequently his F's and M's and P's and B's are less than perfect in their execut. And what's worse, they are accompanied by a string saliva breeze that anoints the conversation like a crystal clear pizza.

[Tom Griswold]

Cheese.

[Comedian/Guest]

And when that dog is in my automobile, he's always messing with my radio station. And if he leaves that seat moved up again, I'm taking away his keys because my dog's been talking to me. Oh yeah. I said my dog's been talking to me. Uh huh. I said my dog egg, he's been talking to me. Bow wow.

[Bob Kevoian]

Here's some extra. This is Bob and Tom.

[Comedian/Guest]

Extra.

[Tom Griswold]

Tom. We have a special guest.

[Bob Kevoian]

We do indeed. There he is on the big screen.

[Joe Theismann]

There he is.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's Joe Theisman, I think in a hotel room, I'm not sure.

[Joe Theismann]

Very good. Yes.

[Comedian/Guest]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Better. You have lovely matching lamps in your bedroom.

[Tom Griswold]

Yes. You've gone with hotel shop.

[Joe Theismann]

Would be matching, believe me.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Wow, a chicken. I disagree about something, Joe.

[Tom Griswold]

I know, go ahead. I apologize for having to ask you this question, Joe. Go ahead, Tom.

[Bob Kevoian]

Playing in the snow like that in Denver, I don't get it. I mean, it would be like in a bowling tournament, they throw oil on the alley.

[Tom Griswold]

Tom wants everything to be indoors and he doesn't think it's fair from a competition standpoint to be out of doors.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, your thoughts?

[Joe Theismann]

The only thing is, is is the weather actually came down on both teams. I mean, if you were to say that okay. Denver gets to play outside, and New England gets to play inside. So you play half the game, one place, half the game, the other place.

[Tom Griswold]

That's right.

[Joe Theismann]

It makes no sense. The elements are the same for everybody. It's a question of how you handle them.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. It's just.

[Joe Theismann]

And it's. The game slows down when the weather gets like that. The game does slow down a bit, and the footing becomes a very, very important part of it. You know, we saw Drake May slip once. We saw the running back slip once. Overall, I was shocked at how well everybody had their footing through the second half of that football game.

[Tom Griswold]

And you play all season, Tom, to have home field advantage.

[Bob Kevoian]

I know.

[Tom Griswold]

That's part of being a champion.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay. Well, I guess the big question, though, in the NFL right now is, hey, what do you have to do to keep your job if you're a coach?

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Theismann]

Yeah. Welcome to the carousel called coaching. Yeah. I mean, you look. And a couple of. A couple of guys in particular, you look at John Harbaugh after all that he's done in Baltimore. Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. 19 years. Sometimes you just reach a point where maybe you want to change a scenery or possibly ownership wants a change of scenery, and then you do something like they're doing in Cleveland, where they're sending out resumes and asking coaches to write essays, which boggles my mind. I got to be perfectly honest with you. It'll be very interesting to see who winds up with the Cleveland Brown job. Of all the hirings that are out there, this is the first time I've ever seen any kind of a search that has this attached to it. So it'll be interesting to see who has the best essay.

[Tom Griswold]

Well, that's the. That's the first we're hearing about that.

[Joe Theismann]

Right.

[Tom Griswold]

Tom, did you know that?

[Joe Theismann]

I understand. I understand.

[Tom Griswold]

Wow.

[Joe Theismann]

I was. It was my understanding that they were, you know, asking coaches to write resume. Not resumes, but essays. And they were doing a lot of analytics regarding the search for a head coach.

[Home Depot Advertiser]

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[Joe Theismann]

And analytics are fine in certain situations. Football is still a game of instincts.

[Tom Griswold]

Right.

[Joe Theismann]

It's a game of personalities. It's a game of being able to sit down with somebody and really get a sense of who they are, what they are, and the direction they want to go in. So, like I say, Cleveland is. Cleveland's had its share of issues, and now all of a sudden, it's a football team that still is searching again. Maybe head coach and hope, you know, with Shador, maybe a quarterback they found.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

One of the guys will probably submit an essay written by AI. Yeah. The new coach. Chat.

[Joe Theismann]

GPT or whatever. You're right.

[Tom Griswold]

Hey, Joe, how did you feel about

[Comedian/Guest]

the.

[Tom Griswold]

The Broncos yesterday not going for the field goal and trying to go for it on fourth down and obviously stopped. And then Sean Payton did make the. Make the comment after the game. I. I realized how important those three points could have been in the game. I mean, that. That football's definitely changed. It's.

[Joe Theismann]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

Since you played. Yeah.

[Joe Theismann]

It's an epidemic.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Joe Theismann]

It started a few years back. Everybody thinks they want to go for it on fourth. That you used to think to yourself, fourth and a half a yard. Fourth and a yard. Okay, we'll go for it.

[Tom Griswold]

Right.

[Joe Theismann]

Depending upon where we are on the field. Depending upon how well your defense is playing. Right. Depending on how well the other offense is playing. So there's a lot of factors that go into it, but I think. I think Sean and I listened to him a little bit this morning. I think he felt like points were a pre. Points are a premium. Whether it's three or seven doesn't matter. Six if you missed an extra point, which guys are doing now. But I really. I really feel like they. This will. This will give coaches a pause when it comes to fourth downs and not taking points in a game like that. When you got the best defense in football, you're at home, you. You want to get points on the board. Make. Make New England chase. You. Make them find a way to put their points on the board and put your faith in your defense. And I think, Sean, you know, and especially. Especially with a backup quarterback. Yes. You're asking Jared Stedham to do something that he's never done, hasn't done in two years, hasn't really done probably in his career. So I think all those things were factors. But in the heat of the game, you make a decision. You believe in your football team, you believe in the call, and that's what Sean did.

[Tom Griswold]

Yep.

[Bob Kevoian]

Joe, what's the worst weather you've ever played? And do you have any particular memories of a dreadful outing because of horrible weather?

[Joe Theismann]

Two of them, as a matter of fact. One was in Tampa, I believe, like, maybe 1970, 82, maybe 83, something like that. It was a torrential downpour. It rained so hard that the water was cascading down the steps in the stadium like a waterfall.

[Tom Griswold]

Yep.

[Joe Theismann]

And oddly enough, the field drained great. But it was. It was horrible to be able to deal with for a half a football. And then early on in my career, we played The Buffalo Bills in Buffalo, the last game of the season, and it was minus 5 degrees. And you just. There's nowhere to hide from it. You're afraid to go sit in front of the heaters too long because then you get too comfortable. You're afraid not to go over there because you have to thaw out. And they give you pouches, they give you hand warmers, but. And you don't want to keep on moving. You have to sit down at some point. But those were two conditions that I played in that were polar opposites, but yet really makes a difference whether it does impact the game. I doubt very seriously if the super bowl is going to be impacted at all by weather, no matter what happens. I mean, these two teams are built for outsides. Seattle's an outside team. New England is an outside team. They'll handle conditions just like they normally would.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now, do you have an early feel for how you think this is going to go?

[Joe Theismann]

You know, Seattle's defense is going to put a lot of pressure on Drake. May we forget how young Drake is. I mean, he's in his second year. Really is his full year of really understanding and bringing this team to the level they're at. I'm looking at this football game right now. I think the way Sam Darnold is playing, I don't know if anybody can beat him with the weapons that he has around him, the way he's playing. Congratulations to him on the journey that he has been on.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, my goodness.

[Joe Theismann]

I mean, you know, you don't have to go back very far to listen to the jets comments about him. And then, you know, you go to Carolina, then you go to San Francisco, and he fits into that journeyman category, but yet he has really found a Minnesota, where I think he got some great training. Got some great training in San Francisco, got some great training in Minneapolis. And now all of a sudden, you see the. The fruits of his labor and the perseverance that he showed. Wind up with an incredible performance yesterday in, you know, in this. In the game.

[Tom Griswold]

And, Joe, let's look ahead to next season.

[Joe Theismann]

How about. We've been saying that, too, Chick. We've been saying that way too long.

[Tom Griswold]

I know it. I know it. But, boy, the NFC Championship game for us, what last. It was just last year. I don't know. Injuries and I don't know what. Is there anything to look forward to? I mean.

[Joe Theismann]

Yeah, well, we'll get. We'll get people back. I think there. I think there are areas that they're going to have to Add people, you know, Zach Ertz going down, he was sort of towards at the end where Bobby Wagner going to do.

[Tom Griswold]

Right.

[Joe Theismann]

What's Vaughn Miller going to do? Players that are older, you need, you know, you're going to need corners, you're going to need, you always can use offensive line. And I thought our offensive line actually performed, you know, admirably this year. Jaden's health is always. You're curious how well he'll come back. What's he going to look like when he comes back? That's always a question when somebody gets hurt now that Terry's in. I mean, we had so many guys in and out through the course of the year. There was no consistency, no continuity. And you saw the results. I mean, you know, quarterback after quarter, every other week there was a different quarterback.

[Tom Griswold]

Right.

[Joe Theismann]

You just, you just can't win in the NFL if you're shuffling a deck all the time at the quarterback position.

[Tom Griswold]

That's true. And, and we were just witness to the Indiana football team winning the national championship. And you were. Yeah, you were talking about something about having a team. And I think Indiana, this nil thing, it's fine to bring in whoever for however many dollars, but if you don't have an honest, an actual team, more than any other sport, I think football, really, football really is a team sport. Yeah.

[Joe Theismann]

Yeah. Coach Signetti did an incredible job putting together his football team. And each year now, the college coaches have to figure out a way to be able to pay people enough money to bring them in. I mean, college football's landscape has changed tremendously. The colleges have their general managers, they have their player personnel organization part of it. I mean, really, college football has become professional football. And the difference is you don't have one owner paying for people and you don't have a salary cap. So you have everybody going out and buying everybody and anybody they think will do well. I just wonder sometimes when you go out and pay all this money to all these guys and you don't accomplish what you want, do you keep pouring money in or do you try and build some sense of continuity? The ncaa, which really has no power anymore anyway, but if they are a legislative body for college sports, they have to figure out a way to keep coaches and keep players at least in place for a year or two.

[Bob Kevoian]

Right.

[Joe Theismann]

You don't want to limit people's ability to be able to work because they need, you know, the questions raised. Well, I, I have the right to go find a job. Okay, fine. But they have to put something in place that Allows some continuity in college football. Or it's buy one here, buy one there, and good luck to you.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. Now, Joe, I thought it wouldn't be one of our famous dumb interviews with you unless I asked a stupid question, huh?

[Comedian/Guest]

We.

[Bob Kevoian]

This just proves to me how wrong the Internet can be. We found a survey of the number one food served at super bowl parties.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh.

[Bob Kevoian]

If you get this answer, I'm gonna send you $5 in cash. What do you think the number one food served at super bowl parties is? According to the.

[Tom Griswold]

According to this survey that.

[Bob Kevoian]

This survey that we.

[Joe Theismann]

The survey of five people. That's probably.

[Bob Kevoian]

Could be.

[Joe Theismann]

Survey. Okay, I would. I would probably go with chicken wings. An excellent guess.

[Bob Kevoian]

I would, too. However, the answer was baked potatoes.

[Joe Theismann]

Yes.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah. You know the baked potatoes.

[Joe Theismann]

I've seen a lot of those at super bowl parties.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Theismann]

The first thing I do when I walk in and say, listen, if you don't have baked potatoes, I'm leaving it. Yeah, absolutely.

[Comedian/Guest]

That's right.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now, Joe Theisman, will you attend a Super bowl party this year or get the Super Bowl?

[Joe Theismann]

I'll be at a lot of parties.

[Tom Griswold]

All right?

[Joe Theismann]

I'll be at a lot of things.

[Bob Kevoian]

Would you mind. Would you mind taking a little notebook and writing down you get a potato?

[Joe Theismann]

When I go to a Super bowl party, the first question that's coming to my mind is, what are you serving? Not who's there? Not why am I there, but what are you serving? And I'm really. You know what I mean? I'm gonna be looking for baked potatoes. If I don't do a baked potato at a Super bowl party, I'm gonna say that that is very off.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. It just kind of proves you can't believe everything you read in the Internet.

[Joe Theismann]

Yeah, we.

[Bob Kevoian]

We came upon it last year that we found it again this year. I think the Idaho people must be slipping this in. It's just. It's just simply, simply not true. Joe, always a great pleasure. Have fun at the Super Bowl. Of course. Do you have any official duties there? Any speaking things you're doing or anything

[Joe Theismann]

you can do for Washington to do? I'm going to be introducing some of the people. I think Sting is in concert. The Killers are in concert. I'm going to be, you know, involved in that a little bit. So I'm looking forward. It's a busy. It's a busy weekend. It's a busy four or five days, and I really want us. Everybody, please be safe. You're listening. Please. And watching. Please be safe with all this weather. Don't. Don't try and be a hero. If, if you're going to shovel, shovel for 10 minutes. Take your time. We don't want anybody to get hurt. Be careful on the roads and, and just be safe.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, A good thought. And. And I would recommend for dinner possibly a baked potato.

[Joe Theismann]

Baked potato.

[Bob Kevoian]

Thank you, Joe.

[Joe Theismann]

Maybe something else. Maybe wings and a baked potato.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, that's it. See, this is why the man is number one.

[Tom Griswold]

That's right.

[Bob Kevoian]

Thank you very much, Joe Theisman. Always.

[Christopher]

That's it for another Bob and Tom show. Extra. Catch us on itunes, Google play and stitcher for Bob and Tom.

[Tom Griswold]

Extra.

[Christopher]

This is Christopher. Take care, everybody.

[Bob Kevoian]

This isn't your average podcast.

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[Joe Theismann]

I do like a huge chug of tequila.

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The howler head whiskey bottle chug in

[Joe Theismann]

front of Dana White.

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That was the first time we ever went to la. We somehow got into a diddy party.

[Bob Kevoian]

What's the Elon Musk house party look like? My party's generally a very high production value. This is full sense. I do want to do a lot more pranks.

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Bunch of different pranks.

[Bob Kevoian]

Join the party. Jack Doherty in the house.

[Tom Griswold]

Feeling good, man.

[Bob Kevoian]

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[Comedian/Guest]

I know what you're going to say.

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[Bob Kevoian]

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[Joe Theismann]

Grab the boys, grab the beers. Let's do it.

[Bob Kevoian]

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