B&T Extra: Uber ratings, a Blind Guy, & Wildfire

Summary

Podcast Summary: The BOB & TOM Show Free Podcast

Episode: B&T Extra: Uber ratings, a Blind Guy, & Wildfire
Date: October 23, 2025
Hosts: Tom Griswold, Bob Kevoian, Kristi Lee, Jeff
Producer/Announcer: Christopher

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of The BOB & TOM Show Free Podcast dives into classic B&T territory: listener letters and offbeat conversation, combining comedy with relatable topics. The hosts riff on the intricacies of Uber ratings, share stories involving a blind listener and glass eyes, explore a scandal in the stone skipping world record scene, and debate the instrumentation of the classic song "Wildfire." The tone is light, irreverent, and peppered with the hosts’ signature banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Uber Ratings and Listener Letters

Starts at 03:00

• Importance of Uber Ratings

  • The group discusses how Uber user ratings work, joking about their own scores and the role of tipping.
  • Kristi Lee shares: “I had a five out of five until some episode apparently in Chicago and I dropped to a 4.92.” (03:28)
  • Bob Kevoian jokes Uber charges more as ratings go down (03:38).

• A Blind Listener’s Perspective

  • Kristi reads a letter from a blind listener (Brian) who boasts a 4.98 Uber rating despite not tipping, ending with “Suck it, Tom.” (03:59)
  • The letter notes Brian’s blindness, leading to banter:
    • Tom Griswold: "Who's gonna give a blind guy three stars or two stars? What the heck?" (04:14)
    • Bob Kevoian: "They're easy customers. You can just drop them off wherever." (04:21)

• Blindness & Everyday Life

  • A follow-up about drive-thru ATMs having braille, which segues into classic jokes about design choices and accessibility.

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2. Weird Stories: Glass Eyes & Childhood Lingo

Starts at 05:41

• Cowboy and the Glass Eye

  • A listener writes about a bricklayer, “Cowboy,” who would pop out his glass eye to prank coworkers—“I've got my eye on you.” (06:04)
  • The hosts marvel at the mechanics and design of glass eyes, with Bob admitting he once thought they were full spheres.

• Childhood Humor

  • The podcast features a lighthearted story about a child calling shorts "shirt sleeve pants," which amuses the group.

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3. World Records: Golf Farts & Stone Skipping

Begins at 07:50; Stone skipping at 11:02

• Golf Course Gags

  • Discussion of a golf incident where a player’s swing was interrupted by someone passing gas, leading to jokes about “lit farts.”
  • Kristi Lee: “I didn’t think it was possible until I saw my college roommate do it.” (09:38)
  • Bob Kevoian: “It went...yeah. And now he didn’t have to go to the hospital or anything, but…man, it sucked back.” (09:53)

• Stone Skipping Scandal

  • The group covers a cheating scandal at the World Stone Skimming Championships in Scotland: some contestants used ground, circular stones in violation of the rules.
    • Kristi Lee: "2,200 people went to watch this event. It's stone skipping in Scotland." (11:38)
    • The first American, Jonathan Jennings of Kentucky, won by skimming a stone a cumulative 580 feet—almost two football fields. (12:37, 13:46)

• Hosts’ Personal Experiences

  • Kristi and Bob recall their own skill at skipping stones, with side banter about types of stone and competitions in Michigan.

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4. Music Debate: Michael Martin Murphy’s "Wildfire"

Begins at 15:14

• The hosts argue about what instrument is featured in the intro of the song “Wildfire.”
  • Bob Kevoian thinks it’s a flute or whistle, refusing to believe it’s a guitar despite Kristi reading the official credits: “I trust my own organs, you lunatic. Yeah, it’s a recorder or a flute or something…” (16:58)
  • Kristi Lee reads the credits: “The only instruments on here are mandolin, drums, bass guitars and piano.” (16:51)
• Wraps with an open call to listeners to settle the debate by contacting the musicians.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Suck it, Tom.” — Brian (blind listener, read by Kristi Lee) (03:59)
• “They're easy customers. You can just drop them off wherever.” — Bob Kevoian (04:21)
• "I've got my eye on you." — Cowboy, the bricklayer, as read by Jeff (06:04)
• “I didn’t realize until I was an adult that glass eyes weren’t full round eyes, that they're just almost lens shaped.” — Bob Kevoian (06:17)
• “Lit a fart. Never done it.” — Tom Griswold (09:35)
• “It essentially looks like a speedboat...going across the water.” — Kristi Lee, describing the record stone skip (14:08)
• “I trust my own organs, you lunatic.” — Bob Kevoian, on song instrumentation (16:58)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:00 – Uber ratings and listener letters
• 04:09 – Blind listener’s Uber experience
• 05:41 – Glass eye stories and jokes
• 07:50 – Golf course fart mishaps
• 11:02 – World Stone Skimming Championship scandal
• 12:37 – American wins stone skipping, distance explained
• 15:14 – Debating the sound of “Wildfire”
• 16:58 – Bob’s insistence on “Wildfire” being a flute

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Overall Flow & Tone

The episode is classic BOB & TOM: quick-fire, friendly jabs, and personal anecdotes. The gang transitions effortlessly between hilarious listener mail and riffing on oddball news and pop culture. Their chemistry—light teasing, mock outrage, and inside jokes—keeps the mood buoyant, with each topic building on the last for spontaneous laughs.

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For listeners who missed the show:
This B&T Extra gave fans a dose of offbeat humor, listener engagement, and the zany group dynamic the show is known for, covering everything from Uber etiquette to the anatomy of a glass eye, a world-class stone skipping contest, and the eternal mystery of what makes “Wildfire” sound so magical.

Transcript

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[Bob Kevoian]

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[Tom Griswold]

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[Kristi Lee]

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[Tom Griswold]

Welcome back.

[Christopher]

It's another Bob and Tom extra. This is Christopher. Not only is the Bob and Tom show live every weekday morning, but every afternoon. We'll give you a little extra. In case you missed anything on today's big show. Uber ratings, a blind guy and wildfire. It's on the way in just a minute.

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[Tom Griswold]

Bar.

[Pickup Truck Song Singer]

I'm gonna have the time of my life the exhaust pipes are tighter than my ex wife think I'm crazy but listen to this I can bring home a hooker and it won't get pissed cold wedding ring won't cost me a buck when I get married to my pickup pickup truck.

[Tom Griswold]

Now some more Bob and Tom.

[Kristi Lee]

You want it, you need it, you can't live without It.

[Tom Griswold]

This is Bob and Tom.

[Vernon Davis]

Extra.

[Kristi Lee]

We have another. This may end the topic letter.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay. The letter to end all letters. On which subject?

[Jeff]

Topic?

[Kristi Lee]

Uber. And the Uber ratings.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. I think they're important. Drivers need to know. Need to let other drivers know, hey, this person's reasonable. They're safe.

[Kristi Lee]

They're right. So. So when you do call to get an Uber, if they look, you know, you got a five out of five, they're going to come get you.

[Jeff]

Right?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Kristi Lee]

And I had a five out of five until some episode apparently in Chicago and I dropped to a 4, 9 2.

[Jeff]

Yeah, you're still gonna get picked up.

[Kristi Lee]

Oh, I know.

[Bob Kevoian]

They charge you a little more as your rate goes down.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Kristi Lee]

And then we. We've had a number of letters about this. This guy goes not to brag, huh?

[Bob Kevoian]

But I say brag.

[Kristi Lee]

And I'm not a cheap bastard most of the time, but I don't have the funds to tip a driver. But I still have a 4.98.

[Bob Kevoian]

Wow.

[Kristi Lee]

Suck it, Tom. And then, well, wait a minute. P.S. dictated by someone who was blind.

[Jeff]

Well, of course.

[Kristi Lee]

There you go.

[Jeff]

You're not gonna turn down a blind guy, right?

[Tom Griswold]

Who's gonna give a blind guy three stars or two stars? What the heck?

[Kristi Lee]

Yeah, well. So there you go.

[Bob Kevoian]

They're easy customers. You can just drop them off wherever.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

No, this is the airport.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Kristi Lee]

I'm sure that that sounds like a bus. Dear Bob and Tom show.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristi Lee]

Now we have a theme. I am currently legally blind. I cannot see drive thru menus. I suggest let alone the road when I'm driving.

[Jeff]

Don't be driving through.

[Bob Kevoian]

What the hell are you talking about? Missing the obvious.

[Kristi Lee]

Here, throw that letter. What are you doing?

[Bob Kevoian]

What are they. What's the point here?

[Kristi Lee]

He says I'm got. I have surgery scheduled. I hope my eyesight is soon restored. Thank you, Brian. I'm assuming that he's a passenger and I'm glad that there's a surgical procedure that will bring his sight back.

[Bob Kevoian]

This is like the old joke that the drive up ATMs had braille on the buttons.

[Jeff]

Yeah, yeah, some of them did.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristi Lee]

Really?

[Tom Griswold]

Yes. Oh, yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

And There were about 12 comedians talking about it.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh yeah. Over and over again.

[Kristi Lee]

That is distressing.

[Bob Kevoian]

I mean, they had a valid point like what the hell's that about?

[Kristi Lee]

But I guess they made kind of a one size fits all panel and drive through or not. I see. Christy, you got a letter over there.

[Jeff]

This is from Jeff in Lawrenceburg, Indiana. Dear Bob, And Tom, you mentioned glass eyes this morning. It brought back a memory from a summer construction job during my college years. There was a bricklayer named Cowboy.

[Tom Griswold]

Cowboy.

[Jeff]

Cowboy that would find places to hide on the job site, pop his glass eye out, hold it around a corner and say, I've got my eye on you.

[Bob Kevoian]

I love when people are weirdos.

[Kristi Lee]

Pretty good.

[Jeff]

He would. Then he would put it in his mouth to clean the dirt and dust off during the day and pop it back in.

[Kristi Lee]

I have. I have witnessed this.

[Jeff]

Are you serious?

[Kristi Lee]

The in the mouth thing? Absolutely. I've seen it.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now, I didn't realize until. Boy, maybe, I mean, I was an adult for sure that glass eyes were not full round eyes, that they're just almost lens shaped.

[Jeff]

I didn't know that.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. Like now, like they're not going to fall out and roll away. Oh, I thought they were.

[Tom Griswold]

Is that why they're lens shaped? So they don't fall out and roll?

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't know.

[Kristi Lee]

But at one point they were bowling pin shaped. But very odd. They were bucking out a little too much.

[Bob Kevoian]

They called them the Barty Feldmans. Christy, would you make love to Marty Feldman? Nah.

[Jeff]

I don't know. Boy, that'd be tough.

[Bob Kevoian]

I bet he was funny.

[Jeff]

Maybe if the lights were out, there's a chance.

[Bob Kevoian]

Also he was hung.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

You know, he's one of those 13 inchers.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Kristi Lee]

Maybe like a show horse or perhaps charming.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, I bet he was charming.

[Jeff]

He was very charming. And he didn't always have his eyes bugged out. I mean, he could.

[Bob Kevoian]

Nobody had a unique look.

[Tom Griswold]

Yes.

[Bob Kevoian]

No matter what he was telling, he.

[Tom Griswold]

Always had that one eye. Oh, yeah.

[Kristi Lee]

What hump. One more letter. This comes to us from Richard. When my youngest child was young, we would ask him if he wanted to wear pants or shorts. He always said he wanted to wear his shirt sleeve pants.

[Bob Kevoian]

Shirt sleeve pants.

[Kristi Lee]

The sweet little guy. Congratulations.

[Bob Kevoian]

So short sleeve pants or shirt sleeve pants?

[Kristi Lee]

This is shirt sleeve pants.

[Bob Kevoian]

That to me would say long sleeve or long pants. Yeah, yeah.

[Kristi Lee]

Well, I'm just reading the letters.

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't know.

[Kristi Lee]

We now return to the sports desk. What's going on over there?

[Tom Griswold]

I don't know what you remember this from. I'm not. I forget what golf tournament this was in. But Scotty Scheffler was out on the course and someone had had some gas during his backswing. Do you remember that time?

[Kristi Lee]

Yeah. And then the nosters actually highlighted it. Shler.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Kristi Lee]

Yeah. Oh, my word.

[Tom Griswold]

What are you laughing about?

[Kristi Lee]

There's so much to say. About that shot so lot.

[Tom Griswold]

Somebody has using Tom's laugh.

[Kristi Lee]

I told me, let's stick to the golf.

[Bob Kevoian]

I love the one guy, he totally calls his buddy out.

[Kristi Lee]

What are you laughing about?

[Bob Kevoian]

He wanted to see if he would explain.

[Jeff]

And then he goes, let's stick to the golf.

[Tom Griswold]

Well, we have admitted it was him.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

From Ryder cup champ Rider Cup. Practice. This is English golfer Terrell Hatton. He's getting ready.

[Kristi Lee]

Practice round.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yes. No, I don't think that's him.

[Tom Griswold]

No, it's not him at all.

[Kristi Lee]

No backswing coming. He hears, here's the fart, and he does not follow through with the swing.

[Bob Kevoian]

No, he can't. And it's perfectly placed. It's noon and perfectly.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, right.

[Kristi Lee]

Is that considered bad form on the course?

[Bob Kevoian]

I would think so. But in this case, they're having fun. But. Yeah. Yeah, I can't.

[Tom Griswold]

It's a practice run during the actual competition.

[Kristi Lee]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

That's when. Scotty shefflers.

[Kristi Lee]

You're the 18th at the end of the Masters. Right. You don't want the guy. It looks like Byron is lighting his farts. I hope that doesn't distract Jack.

[Tom Griswold]

I have never done that.

[Bob Kevoian]

Lit a fart.

[Tom Griswold]

Lit a fart. Never done it.

[Bob Kevoian]

I've seen it done a few times and it is done.

[Kristi Lee]

Yeah, I. I didn't think it was possible until I saw my college roommate do it. I. I thought that there's no way your body would contain something happens. Oh, it does. Yeah, it does.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's extraordinary.

[Tom Griswold]

What keeps it from going back up inside.

[Bob Kevoian]

It didn't for my friend Paul.

[Jeff]

Really Burned his hair and his butt.

[Bob Kevoian]

It went. Yeah. Oh, and now he didn't have to go to the hospital or anything, but he. Man, it sucked back.

[Tom Griswold]

So.

[Kristi Lee]

So embarrassing.

[Tom Griswold]

A little hot. Ever have that happen, though? One of those. One of those hot. You feel heat. Remember this?

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[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, that happens. You have gas.

[Kristi Lee]

What?

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah. You feel heat?

[Kristi Lee]

Sure.

[Jeff]

No.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

You ever have a fart where you. You smell it and you go, oh, I'm.

[Tom Griswold]

I'm.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'm gonna be sick. Like, I'm. Meaning I'm gonna. I have a flu or a cold coming on.

[Jeff]

No.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, that'll happen too.

[Tom Griswold]

I've noticed mine has. The odor has changed dramatically the older I get. Oh, I don't know. Maybe it's what I'm eating or what I'm not eating or.

[Kristi Lee]

I don't know. I'm noticing more length and. And pitch. Really?

[Jeff]

This is what we're going to.

[Tom Griswold]

Now, the tone, if you will.

[Bob Kevoian]

I notice Mine are longer now.

[Kristi Lee]

No, no, that's what I just said.

[Tom Griswold]

I've got something that'll. That'll save the show. Really Stupid world record.

[State Farm Announcer]

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[Bob Kevoian]

They say Johnny Cash's far. It's a perfect pitch, really. Ring of fire.

[Tom Griswold]

The World Stone Skimming Championships have been hit by a cheating scandal.

[Jeff]

Oh, boy.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, no. You don't say.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah. The BBC reports over 2200 people from 27 countries attended this year's event. On the tiny, tiny island of Easedale off the west coast of Scotland. Rules state that stones must come from naturally occurring island slate. However, some were found have been ground into a suspiciously circular shape to help them bounce on water.

[Bob Kevoian]

Suspiciously circular.

[Kristi Lee]

I think you're missing out. 2,200 people went to watch this event. It's stone skipping in Scotland.

[Jeff]

Right?

[Tom Griswold]

He has every day, he has such high hopes that they're gonna really enjoy this world.

[Jeff]

Maybe there's not a lot going on in Scotland.

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't care about some backwards Highlanders watching rocks being thrown.

[Tom Griswold]

Organizer Dr. Kyle Matthews told a news outlet that offenders had held their hands up and apologized.

[Bob Kevoian]

Sorry.

[Tom Griswold]

He did not specify how many competitors out of the 2,200 were disqualified for stone doctoring.

[Kristi Lee]

No, no, no. Here's the good part here.

[Bob Kevoian]

All right, all right.

[Tom Griswold]

Jonathan, is there a reason you just don't read this and you make me do it? I don't understand.

[Kristi Lee]

I want to see if we get this guy on the phone.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no.

[Tom Griswold]

Certain. I have covet.

[Bob Kevoian]

You can't almost. I can't call Scotland.

[Tom Griswold]

Jonathan Jennings of Kentucky became the contest first American winners. USA. USA. Skimmed his stone. A cumulative distance of 580ft.

[Kristi Lee]

That's amazing.

[Bob Kevoian]

That is so far. But was he considered one of the cheaters or was.

[Tom Griswold]

No, they wouldn't have let him compete, Dumb ass.

[Bob Kevoian]

I mean, I saw the vitriol in his eyes. I did too. I, I, he got two words out of that sentence. And I, I, like I was genuine. I had my. My cold ran my blood.

[Tom Griswold]

I've always said this. I could leave today and get five parts in six different movies. I could do it today. And you go, oh, you knew him when he worked on the Bob and Tom show.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's right. Sometimes it's like walking in a minefield. Sometimes you make one step, you never know, you think it's innocent step and.

[Kristi Lee]

You hear a click. This guy, this is.

[Tom Griswold]

He's gonna kill me.

[Kristi Lee]

Okay, Christy, I'm gonna help you visualize this. This guy threw this guy. I don't wanna visualize this Guy skipped a stone 580ft. A football field is 300ft.

[Tom Griswold]

Very good.

[Kristi Lee]

This is almost two football fields. This great gentleman from the Commonwealth of Kentucky representing.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's a good question.

[Tom Griswold]

That's a great question.

[Kristi Lee]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

A good reporter.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's gotta be 53 and a half. Like three big ones and then just dozens of tiny.

[Kristi Lee]

Oh, at the end. At the end. It essentially looks like a speedboat.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Kristi Lee]

Going across the water.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Again, I thought. I. I know. You're getting. You're getting hammered.

[Kristi Lee]

This is a great world record. You've got 2200 people in Scotland. It's better than some golfer farting. Come on. I did that for you. I thought you were happy. I did enjoy it.

[Tom Griswold]

All right.

[Bob Kevoian]

Are you pretty good at skipping a stone?

[Kristi Lee]

I used to be excellent. Because I did it all the time.

[Bob Kevoian]

I used to be excellent.

[Kristi Lee]

Oh, yeah, we were.

[Jeff]

All the time, huh?

[Kristi Lee]

And they. They used to actually have the skipping stones.

[Jeff]

The Petoskey stones probably skip better than anyone.

[Bob Kevoian]

No, they're much more polished. You would never skip highly.

[Kristi Lee]

Petoskey stones generally don't skip very well. By the way, the shinola company now makes a Petoskey stone.

[Tom Griswold]

Watch you rub it on the head of your fans.

[Bob Kevoian]

You wouldn't know Shinola from this conversation.

[Kristi Lee]

They. There is a stone skipping competition up in Sault Ste. Marie, I believe, and they do have a category for measuring the way it works, etc.

[Tom Griswold]

Measuring the boredom.

[Bob Kevoian]

Do they have that level?

[Kristi Lee]

Yes, I think Skipping stones is. What's the song that mentions there's a famous.

[Jeff]

I'm not your skipping stone.

[Kristi Lee]

No, no.

[Jeff]

That was Stepping stone.

[Tom Griswold]

Would you find it surprising that you go fishing? The most time I've spent talking or listening or caring or about a skipping stone competition.

[Kristi Lee]

By the way, if things come full circle, there is a song called Skipping Stones from Michael Martin Murphy.

[Jeff]

What?

[Kristi Lee]

Yeah, yeah, there you go. We were just talking about him and the sad song Wildfire start crying, right?

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yeah. And you were going to tell us what this instrument is?

[Kristi Lee]

There are. No, it's a guitar.

[Bob Kevoian]

No, the hell.

[Tom Griswold]

That's what I said.

[Bob Kevoian]

It sounds nothing like any guitar ever made.

[Kristi Lee]

That's how good the player.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's a flute.

[Tom Griswold]

It's not flute.

[Kristi Lee]

I've got the flute. I have the entire personnel. The entire personnel. This is Jack Murphy on the piano.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, nepotism. Nepo baby.

[Kristi Lee]

Sam Rossard on guitar. And Richard Dean on guitar. Drums.

[Bob Kevoian]

And other stuff too, in bass.

[Kristi Lee]

Right. This part.

[Tom Griswold]

About traffic and weather coming up, home of the hit right here, Madison. Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Every Bit. A flute or whistle or something.

[Jeff]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

You guys are in recorders.

[Tom Griswold]

Absolutely. A guitar. 75.

[Kristi Lee]

There's no.

[Tom Griswold]

Somebody get Michael Murphy on the phone.

[Kristi Lee]

This says that. It says it's.

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't believe it says.

[Kristi Lee]

The only instruments on here are mandolin, drums, bass guitars and piano.

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't care what it says. I trust my own organs, you lunatic. Yeah, it's a recorder or a flute or something. There's no guitar synthesizer that did that. You can show me video of somebody playing a guitar and that noise coming out and won't believe it. Why would you choose that? You're a skeptic. Why would you choose that sound to come out of a guitar if you wanted a piccolo play? There's no flute guitar pedal.

[Kristi Lee]

This is why.

[Tom Griswold]

Back to you, Tom. You know, music is passionate.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's all there is to it.

[Kristi Lee]

Hey, it's good that we're arguing about. Arguing about the important things in contemporary culture. A great song by Michael Martin Murphy, and we're concerned about what it's. I apologize for asking. It's still a great song.

[Bob Kevoian]

I want to buy a guitar.

[Kristi Lee]

What kind?

[Bob Kevoian]

Anyone? The one that sounds like a fluke.

[Kristi Lee]

That just shows the artistry of this. Of this great guitar player.

[Bob Kevoian]

He's playing it so wrong. He's blowing into the.

[Tom Griswold]

Anybody? If anybody out there knows Michael Murphy or his. Evidently his brother is in the band or whoever the hell it is. Get a hold of us. We need to find out.

[Jeff]

I'm. I'm trying to find.

[Tom Griswold]

It's a guitar.

[Kristi Lee]

All right, we'll retire from this discussion.

[Christopher]

That's it for another Bob and Tom show. Extra. Catch us on itunes, Google play and stitcher for Bob and Tom. Extra. This is Christopher. Take care, everybody.

[Bob Kevoian]

Action.

[Vernon Davis]

Next roll is a groundbreaking podcast created and executive produced by Vernon Davis.

[Bob Kevoian]

This is where we talk about reinvention.

[Vernon Davis]

The series explores the transformative journeys of athletes, artists, comedians and entrepreneurs.

[Bob Kevoian]

They don't just stop here. They just keep going.

[Vernon Davis]

Next role isn't about what's next. It's about why they do it, how they overcome fear, and the resilience it takes to keep evolving at the highest level.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's what it's all about.

[State Farm Announcer]

Stay tuned.

[Vernon Davis]

Next Roll with Vernon Davis. Follow and listen on your favorite platform.