The BOB & TOM Show - November 14, 2025

Summary

The BOB & TOM Show – November 14, 2025

Guest: Al Jackson | Special Guest: Hugh Jackman
Podcast Hosts: Bob Kevoian, Tom Griswold, Chick McGee, Christy Lee, Josh Arnold, Pat Godwin, Ace Cosby

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Episode Overview

A lively, rolling Thursday on The BOB & TOM Show blends holiday banter, comedic news, Thanksgiving food debates, and memorable in-studio visits. Comedian Al Jackson joins the team for offbeat talk and stage stories, while a surprise cameo from Hollywood star Hugh Jackman closes out the episode, sending waves of shock and delight through the studio. From custom celebrity shoe molds, “sweet potato poop” songs, and the Pope’s favorite movies, this episode packs warm camaraderie, nostalgia, and razor-sharp comic observation, serving as the perfect warm-up to the holiday season.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Festive Thanksgiving Food Debates

[03:08–06:40]

• Deviled Eggs: The hosts debate if deviled eggs are an appetizer or main course. Tom: "I could easily eat ten half deviled eggs, easily."
• Mac & Cheese at Thanksgiving: Listeners weigh in on whether this is a staple or a regional curiosity. Christy: "My family’s always had mac and cheese as a side dish for Thanksgiving."
• Carrot Cake and Wild Side Flavors: Bob muses, "I never tried it—then I tried it and went, why didn’t someone tell me?"
• Cranberry Sauce Showdown: Christy is the “only positive vote” for it, and describes her special prep: "I boil it in orange juice." Chick prefers his with vodka.

Sports Picks, Heartbreak, and "Bad Beats"

[10:15–11:19 / 15:23–15:37]

• Shoe-In of the Week: Chick and a contest winner miss a Patriots point spread by half a point. "Tell me this isn’t the Matrix and we’ve all done this a thousand times before."
• Football Uniform Fashion: Team reminisces on retro NFL uniforms—Patriots, “nor’easter blue,” and the emotional legacy of Brown’s fans. [69:33–70:47, 71:15]

Comedy and Listener Letters

[16:14–21:15]

• Marital Humor: Letter describes a sweet tradition started by a cheeky towel comment: "I yelled, 'Can I get some of that before you put it away?' She immediately drops the towel."
• Fridge Confessionals: A listener’s fridge contents—just protein shakes, IPA, and Corona—prompt Bob to joke it’s a state fair test for bachelorhood.
• Driver’s Ed Nostalgia: Listener writes about a “cool” teacher who painted landscapes during lessons, leading to jokes about algebra’s uselessness.

Bob's Alien Persona & Comedy Bits

[24:53–26:50]

• Running Joke: Is Tom an alien? Listener Mike: “Why does Tom continually make references from the 50s and 60s? Radio waves travel slowly through space... contemporary info wasn’t available at his assimilation.”

Thanksgiving Scheduling

[27:40–29:41]

• When to Eat and Arrive: Consensus emerges: halftime of the first football game is the classic Thanksgiving dinner time for many families.

Musical Comedy Highlight

Pat Godwin’s “Sweet Potato Poop”

[51:35–53:14]

• A hilarious tribute song about the digestive after-effects of eating sweet potatoes:
  “Took a sweet potato poop at my church, Sweet potato poop, sweet potato poop, They called a cleanup crew and a fireman…”

Apple & Food Talk

[43:41–47:17]

• Tom enjoys a “gala” apple, Christy discusses baking variety ("Granny Smith’s a good one"), and Bob surprises everyone by stuffing turkeys with apples.

Family, Upbringing, and Food Memories

[46:28–48:48]

• Al Jackson recalls his health-foodie mom—“pita bread and Brussels sprouts in the 80s, before anyone”—and his dad’s five foods: Stouffer’s lasagna, steak, spaghetti, oranges, and tuna.

Sports History: Early Hip Hop Shout-outs

[63:01–66:41]

• Bob and Al discuss the roots of rap—Pigmeat Markham’s “Here Comes the Judge” and the “Hotel Motel” refrain in Rapper’s Delight.

Thanksgiving Sides—What’s In, What’s Out

[49:48–50:56]

• Debate over mac and cheese and green bean casserole. Strong anti-Jello/Jello salad sentiment. “If anyone wanted it, I’d be happy to serve it, but you don’t.”

Custom Celebrity Shoes and Shoe Molds

[122:35–130:20]

• Guest: Chris Francis, Hollywood shoemaker, connects by video to showcase boxes of handmade shoe forms—including those of Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, Johnny Cash, Elizabeth Taylor, Liza Minnelli, and more.
• He demonstrates the process of creating wooden shoe molds and describes the artistic and historical value—“like a mausoleum in here.”

Holiday Shopping & Experience Gifting

[87:32–93:05]

• Hosts confess to loving the “holiday hustle,” but also appreciate today’s online shopping convenience.
• Survey discussed: majority of people would rather spend on live experiences than objects.

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Notable Quotes and Moments

Thanksgiving Food & Sides

“If people aren’t watching your show on YouTube, they’re really missing out.”
—Listener Cindy [01:22]

“I could easily eat ten deviled egg halves—without a problem.”
—Chick McGee [03:29]

“Do you need mac and cheese when you’ve already got mashed potatoes and sweet potatoes?”
—Tom Griswold [04:27]

“Carrot cake’s one of those things—I never tried it, then I tried it and went, why didn’t someone tell me? It’s fantastic.”
—Bob Kevoian [04:53]

Sports Betting "Bad Beat"

“Tell me this isn’t the Matrix and we’ve all done this a thousand times before.”
—Chick McGee, after losing by half a point [11:13]

Comedy Highlights

“My wife walked out of the bathroom in a towel, and I yelled, ‘Can I get some of that before you put it away?!’ She dropped her towel and said, ‘Come and get it.’”
—Listener letter [16:25]

Running Show Gags

“Tom is an alien...when it came time to assign an agent to Earth, instead of choosing their James Bond, they sent their Inspector Clouseau.”
—Listener Mike [26:17]

Musical Comedy

“Took a sweet potato poop out of CVS...there was a girl in the john, taking a pregnancy test.”
—Pat Godwin, “Sweet Potato Poop” [52:00]

Surprise Celebrity Drop-in

[149:32–160:45]

“G’day, Chick. You can call me Jacko, then, if we’re doing nicknames.”
—Hugh Jackman, in-studio surprise [149:51]

“I literally flew to New York just to see you and Sutton Foster in The Music Man. You screwed up one of the songs! She came over and elbowed you!”
—Bob Kevoian to Hugh Jackman [150:02]

“We did karaoke together—Neil Diamond’s house. He came up to me and looked me in the eye, said, ‘You did good, kid.’”
—Hugh Jackman [155:59]

On Experience Over Things

“95% say they crave real experiences over virtual ones. That lifts my heart a bit.”
—Christy Lee [142:20]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:03] Deviled egg technology & mac n’ cheese debates begin
• [03:08–06:40] Thanksgiving sides & family food letters
• [10:15] Shoe-in picks for sports betting: Patriots “bad beat”
• [16:14] Memorable towel story from a listener
• [24:53] “Tom is an alien?” letter
• [27:40] Thanksgiving eating schedule consensus
• [51:35–53:14] “Sweet Potato Poop” musical number (Pat Godwin)
• [63:01–66:41] Old school hip-hop and “Here Comes the Judge”
• [122:35–130:20] Chris Francis, Hollywood shoemaker, video interview
• [149:32–160:45] Hugh Jackman makes surprise in-person visit

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Final Thoughts & Recap

From the good-natured ribbing about food traditions to stories about famous dads, the weirdest shoe museum in Hollywood, and the surreal appearance of Hugh Jackman, this jam-packed BOB & TOM Show episode covers nostalgia, community, and belly laughs. The tributes to live music, sports heartbreak, and holiday rituals strike universal notes, and the hosts’ quick rapport with each guest—comedian or Hollywood A-lister—proves why they’re morning radio royalty.

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Listen for:

• In-studio camaraderie & family anecdotes
• Wild comedy songs
• Surprise celebrity moments (Hugh Jackman)
• Odd and endearing personal traditions
• Live audience letters and quick-fire jokes
• A loving, irreverent lead-up to the holidays

Transcript

[Bob Kevoian]

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[Tom Griswold]

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[Pat Godwin]

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[Bob Kevoian]

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[Tom Griswold]

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[Chick McGee]

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[Bob Kevoian]

Happy birthday, King Charles.

[Chick McGee]

No kidding. Yeah, Mommy Dagon, how old is he? You know, no matter how silly we think it is to have a king and queen, I think.

[Al Jackson]

Hi.

[Chick McGee]

From the O'Reilly Auto Part Studios, it's the Bob and Tom show at the SILAC Insurance news desk. It's Mrs. Dinty Moore.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yeah, look at this.

[Christy Lee]

Channeling Josh today.

[Chick McGee]

Check her out. Yeah, and we need to get Pat Godwin to stand up real quick. Oh, Pat with the shirt tucked in. Check that.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, how about that?

[Pat Godwin]

First time in five years, fellas.

[Chick McGee]

Lady magnificent bastard. Look at him sucking it in. There's Josh Arnold. Hi, there's Ace Cosby. Hello, I'm Chick at the prize pick sports desk. Hello, Tom.

[Bob Kevoian]

And that. Actually, we have a letter that I think kind of emphasizes the importance of watching the show or the replay on YouTube. So you can see, for example, Pat's chiseled body right now. This comes to us from Cindy, Kind enough to write, if people aren't watching your show on YouTube, they're really missing out.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

I just saw Josh pet some guy who walked in bringing him something to drink. He petted the guy on the head.

[Christy Lee]

Must have been Mark.

[Tom Griswold]

It was actually our producer, Jason.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, it's Jason.

[Bob Kevoian]

Give him a little pat in the head, did you? That's nice. Well, thank you very much, Cindy. You're taking the time to write us.

[Chick McGee]

Getting back to Pat Shirt. We were having this discussion off the air, Pat and Tom and I. I said, pat, that is a nice shirt. You got that tucked in. And I said, tom, look at this shirt. And Tom looks at Pat's shirt and goes, what is that, a quarter zip? Quarter zip.

[Christy Lee]

Quarter zip.

[Pat Godwin]

That's what he said.

[Bob Kevoian]

Button down. Pat's 50ft away from me.

[Chick McGee]

Here's what happened.

[Bob Kevoian]

50.

[Chick McGee]

The last thing he wanted to do was interact with either one of us.

[Pat Godwin]

Keeping.

[Bob Kevoian]

I was rather busy. I. I glanced up and thought, oh, nice blue shirt.

[Chick McGee]

Still talking. Okay.

[Bob Kevoian]

Stuck in your gut.

[Chick McGee]

Okay.

[Bob Kevoian]

By the way, this young lady's name is Cindy and she says, yes, Cindy is a great name for a mother in law. Oh, because I mentioned Kelly's mom, Cindy. Because we have drafted her into making us some deviled eggs.

[Christy Lee]

How does she feel about that?

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, she'll. She'll be thrilled to do it.

[Chick McGee]

Really?

[Pat Godwin]

Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, so we haven't asked her yet.

[Bob Kevoian]

I. I'm making arrangements this afternoon to talk to her. All right.

[Chick McGee]

This sounds like a. This sounds like a process.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, the point is, we had a letter yesterday saying for Thanksgiving, it was a two parter. You must have deviled eggs, which I would agree with. And then. Is it an appetizer part of the main course? I think it's an appetizer. It's an appetizer, like in an hour before you eat, you want to sip a little something. And then Chick and I both realized we could easily eat. Easily eat ten half deviled eggs.

[Chick McGee]

Absolutely.

[Bob Kevoian]

Without a problem.

[Chick McGee]

And one and one ten more. There's no doubt about it.

[Bob Kevoian]

And then she has, as you do, Christy, the. She has this plastic carrier that has indents so you can put the deviled eggs in it and then transport them. It's a. It's an amazing bit of technology developed by NASA.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

And yeah. So I'll get that. So we want to test them here prior to Thanksgiving.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, please do that now, if things.

[Bob Kevoian]

Go okay, I believe we have the new Mac and cheese to be tried later today on the show.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, really?

[Chick McGee]

No kidding.

[Bob Kevoian]

This is the. Well, what's exactly.

[Christy Lee]

It was Kraft apple pie, Mac and cheese.

[Bob Kevoian]

So we're going to give it a shot.

[Christy Lee]

We do have a letter about Mac and cheese this morning.

[Bob Kevoian]

We have a bunch of them. Go ahead, you go for it.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah. It says this is from Shane in Bowling Green, Kentucky. Hey, Christy. My family's always had Mac and cheese as a side dish on Thanksgiving. I don't know if it's because we loved it so much or we were just poor and it was cheap to make.

[Tom Griswold]

Okay, Shane, I say either. Fine.

[Christy Lee]

I know, right?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. I don't know. I don't think we need it. We have. Because we do sweet potatoes and mashed potatoes.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, so do I. And Mac and cheese.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, that's a lot of stir.

[Chick McGee]

What was product? Zero, if you will, of coming up with different flavors, like Oreo. All their different flavors. Now Mac and cheese. And now what did I see the other day? Oh, a Kit Kat bar that had carrot cake in the middle or something. I mean, what.

[Bob Kevoian]

But see, carrot cake's one of those things. I never tried it. Then I tried it and Went. Why didn't somebody tell me you didn't try it?

[Christy Lee]

Because it had carrot in the name, Right?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, and it's lovely. It's fantastic. Dear Bob and Tom show, thank you for pointing out the apple pie Mac and cheese. My mother in law makes homemade Mac and cheese. Adds chicken and applesauce.

[Chick McGee]

Hmm.

[Bob Kevoian]

Jen from Is this pronounced Derouter, New York? D E R U Y T E R. Anyway, thanks.

[Tom Griswold]

Wow. Sounds like a casserole kind of thing.

[Bob Kevoian]

See, that sounds delicious. But again, do you need that at Thanksgiving when you've got the turkey? Right, but whatever works. We did have a list of the top 10 sides there. There's a regionality to it, certainly, but I'm a big fan of. What was it, 90% of the people said that the sides are more important than the turkey.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, it was a. It was a huge number.

[Bob Kevoian]

And there are people who'd rather just eat the sides and leave the turkey alone. And the only one that voted positively for cranberry sauce was Christy.

[Christy Lee]

Love it. I. I boil it in orange juice.

[Tom Griswold]

I don't mind it.

[Chick McGee]

I like my cranberry. I like my cranberry sauce. You guys know this really runny with about 3/4 vodka.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. Ice or no?

[Chick McGee]

Just giving enough color. Oh, you know, no, no, no ice. You just bruised the cranberry.

[Tom Griswold]

I like it. But if I had. We had to vote one off the island is what we were doing. That was the one that I had to vote.

[Christy Lee]

I put my cranberry sauce on top of my turkey.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

No kidding.

[Pat Godwin]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah. That's a nice bite.

[Chick McGee]

That's almost a lot of flavor for you, Christina.

[Christy Lee]

I know, right? And then for the next day, you make cream cheese and cranberry turkey sandwiches.

[Chick McGee]

Okay, I will admit I forgot the cream cheese angle and the cranberry.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, Pretty good.

[Chick McGee]

That's pretty good.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, now, how do you feel about a waiter or waitress coming up to your table and saying, how are your first bites?

[Christy Lee]

What's brought that up?

[Bob Kevoian]

I just didn't.

[Chick McGee]

How do you feel about a waitress coming up while you're ordering and sitting in the booth with you?

[Bob Kevoian]

Someone likes the chickster.

[Chick McGee]

No. I don't know why it happened, but no. They just sat down. Maybe they were tired and became a part of the conversation.

[Tom Griswold]

I don't mind it.

[Chick McGee]

You know, a friend of mine lived in North Carolina.

[Chris Francis]

What?

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, that's odd.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Just started conversing.

[Bob Kevoian]

Maybe.

[Chick McGee]

Maybe they did. No, no. Yeah. No, no. I didn't know them, but that happens a lot. But.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, well, the first bite thing, I think is a little bit annoying because you're going. They always seem to ask while you're chewing.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, yeah, that's no good. Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

What are people supposed to say? It's really bad. I mean.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, they're. Yeah, it's lovely. Thank you very much. We appreciate your hard work. Now, coming up, Al Jackson, our in studio guest today.

[Chick McGee]

Huh? Also in the house.

[Bob Kevoian]

In the house. Wow. Also, this is. This is a really interesting development. We had a story a couple weeks ago about this guy that has wooden models of the feet of a bunch of Hollywood stars, Chris Francis. And it turns out.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, that's who this is.

[Bob Kevoian]

Wait a second. He's a fan of the show.

[Chick McGee]

Biggest foot fan fetish.

[Bob Kevoian]

He grew up around here. He's a fan of the show and he. I guess he has acquired this collection.

[Hugh Jackman]

He.

[Bob Kevoian]

He is a custom shoemaker, I guess, but.

[Chick McGee]

So he's a cobbler, I guess.

[Bob Kevoian]

Technically, yeah. In any event, we're going to talk to him, get to the bottom of this. But this collection is. It's sort of famous Hollywood people, I guess they would have these perfect models of their feet carved so they could get their shoes.

[Christy Lee]

Did he acquire this because nobody else wanted it?

[Bob Kevoian]

I. Oh, I. Christy, every time they have these Hollywood auctions, no matter what it is, they go for a fortune. We'll find out. We're going to talk to him later today. It should be very exciting.

[Christy Lee]

And who's carving those things?

[Bob Kevoian]

We're going to find all the.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, I guess we will find it all, whether we want to or not.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah. Cascade over me. Well, I'm.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now. Is today Sadie Hawkins Day?

[Christy Lee]

Hawkins Day.

[Chick McGee]

I thought that was a little happening thing. And it wasn't.

[Pat Godwin]

January.

[Tom Griswold]

February.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay. I don't know why I was just handed this as if it was.

[Tom Griswold]

You know, sometimes when you're handed things, you can just wait a couple minutes.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, you don't have to.

[Bob Kevoian]

Commercial.

[Chick McGee]

That's.

[Tom Griswold]

That's typically what the rest of us do.

[Chick McGee]

Just thought.

[Bob Kevoian]

I thought this was some kind of bulletin. I just.

[Tom Griswold]

No.

[Chick McGee]

Okay.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, it just. They just want to know, are Josh and Christie going to Sadie Hawkins?

[Pat Godwin]

What did I do? Well, they're dressed similar.

[Christy Lee]

You know what? Sadie Hawkins Day is observed on November 13th. That was yesterday.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yeah. Oh, I see. I stand corrected.

[Chick McGee]

No, no, Pat stands corrected.

[Bob Kevoian]

Josh and Christy are both wearing what looks like the same shirt. Large check. Digimore Beef stew.

[Christy Lee]

The event actually appeared first on November 15th, which would be tomorrow, 1937.

[Chick McGee]

What's his face. Oh, okay. So he did invent it. All right. That's what I thought.

[Bob Kevoian]

And Sandy Hawkins Day is the day that the ladies get to ask the men to dances.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah. A date or dance. Would you like to dance?

[Pat Godwin]

Sure.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, actually, would you like an hj?

[Christy Lee]

Why? Wait, wait.

[Chick McGee]

That's extreme. Sadie Hawkins Day.

[Bob Kevoian]

We have. This actually applies to our first letter. We'll get to when we come back.

[Chick McGee]

Okay.

[Bob Kevoian]

By the way, in the category.

[Chick McGee]

Well, are you gonna say what I think you're gonna say?

[Bob Kevoian]

This involves.

[Chick McGee]

I woke up and saw the score and I thought no effing way in.

[Bob Kevoian]

The shoeing of the week yesterday.

[Chick McGee]

Christie.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Please try to be calm because you've already been really upset about this. But wait till you hear this. Go ahead.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yesterday we did the shoeing of the week picks with our winner from our pigskin pick them competition. Rhonda Truman, who was great. She's from Whitewater, Wisconsin. She won that Steven Singer Jewelers 500 gift card for week 10. Her first pick. Both Chick and Rhonda agreed.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

They picked the New England Patriots.

[Chick McGee]

Minus 13 and a half.

[Bob Kevoian]

Minus 13 and a half against the Jets. Final score, Patriots 27, Jets 14.

[Christy Lee]

No way.

[Bob Kevoian]

A quick map.

[Christy Lee]

How do they know half point kills you?

[Chick McGee]

So I hope you had the jets and the points you won. Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

By a half a point.

[Chick McGee]

By half a point.

[Bob Kevoian]

Nice.

[Chick McGee]

Tell me this isn't the Matrix. And we've all done this a thousand times before.

[Bob Kevoian]

Pretty amazing. We'll have other news from the world of sports. A great world record involving 10 dogs. Oh, it's. Wait till you see this. And oddly enough, Josh especially and Christy will be interested in this. Pope Leo, Chicago native. Of course.

[Christy Lee]

Of course.

[Tom Griswold]

Right.

[Bob Kevoian]

Pope Leo shares his all time favorite movies.

[Tom Griswold]

Pretty cool.

[Chick McGee]

It's gotta be Chicago. Richard Gere. Right.

[Bob Kevoian]

There is no of the. Of the main four. One of them is Chicago related. I'm a little disappointed it's not the Blues Brothers. But.

[Chick McGee]

No, no, no, no.

[Al Jackson]

But that.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, that'd be the Blues.

[Tom Griswold]

They were on a mission from God.

[Chick McGee]

But we can say that. We can say this now. That was a bad movie.

[Tom Griswold]

I totally disagree.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, I totally.

[Pat Godwin]

That was an indulged one.

[Tom Griswold]

It's a wonderful end of the other.

[Chick McGee]

It's how many.

[Bob Kevoian]

The Blues Brother. The Blues Brothers. It creates its own genre, if you will. Let's use a fake French term because you know the kayaskuro of the fenestration.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, sure.

[Bob Kevoian]

Clearly. Cigarette vis a vis the. The ergo cogito.

[Chick McGee]

Were you talking about the football?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yes, I was.

[Chick McGee]

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[Bob Kevoian]

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[Tom Griswold]

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[Pat Godwin]

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[Tom Griswold]

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[Bob Kevoian]

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[Chick McGee]

It's nowhere near Halloween. Hi, welcome back to the Bob and Tom Show. We're in the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios. There's Christy Lee Lee, hi. Adjusting her hair under her headphones.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, if I. Never mind. I took a shower this morning and my hair is a little damp. So if I put my headphones on, then a big Headphone head. Oh, little indentations.

[Chick McGee]

That's interesting. Like Princess Leah.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Or is it Leia? There's Pat Godwin.

[Jeff Oskay]

Hello.

[Chick McGee]

Hello, Josh Arnold. Hello, Ace Cosby.

[Pat Godwin]

Hey, chick.

[Chick McGee]

I'm Chick McGee. Hello, Tom.

[Bob Kevoian]

Hello, Chick McGee. Once again, Thursday Night Football jets plus 13 and a half.

[Chick McGee]

Hope you had it. New England did not cover.

[Bob Kevoian]

Wins by 13.

[Chick McGee]

Yep.

[Bob Kevoian]

Unbelievable, man. We have a bunch of interesting letters. We're going to get to them right now. Do you want to explain how this works?

[Chick McGee]

Listener emails from Sleep number. It's a sleep number. Black Friday sale. Recharge this season with cozy, soothing comfort. Now you're talking. Sun setting earlier, more time for you and your sleep number. Bed save on mattress and base bundles. Plus free premium delivery for a limited time only at sleep number or sleep number dot com. Dear Bob and Tom Show. I tried a different angle on the. You want some of this before I put it away?

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, what's this?

[Chick McGee]

My wife showers every morning, getting ready to go to work. One day she walked out of the bathroom in her towel and I yelled, can I get some of that before you put it away?

[Tom Griswold]

Not bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chick McGee]

She immediately dropped her towel and said, come and get it.

[Pat Godwin]

Oh, yeah, it's on.

[Chick McGee]

That's what the letter says.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, I like to believe it.

[Chick McGee]

I like to believe it too. I'm going to believe it. This happened to take place on a Thursday morning. Now, every Thursday morning, we start our day the same way, including yesterday morning. The coolest part of the story is we celebrated our 30th anniversary in September.

[Tom Griswold]

Well, how sweet.

[Chick McGee]

And we still make things.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now get the photos up.

[Chick McGee]

That's.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, as you can see, the towel. It's a nice towel.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, that is a nice towel.

[Tom Griswold]

There it goes.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, different directions.

[Tom Griswold]

Sir, you are a lucky man. A lucky man. And you know what? Judging from what I can see of you, she's a lucky one.

[Chick McGee]

Holy hell.

[Pat Godwin]

Oh, my goodness.

[Chick McGee]

Dear Bob and Tom show. That's right. More pictures of people's refrigerators. Let's take a look at this one.

[Jeff Oskay]

Let's take a look at this one.

[Chick McGee]

Let's see. It's. This is the only fridge you'll ever need. It's from. It's from Matt. Now if you look closely, all it is is core power protein drinks. Look at all those. Yeah, 30 gram, 60 gram, 90 gram. And then I believe there's some sort of beer there.

[Christy Lee]

Ipa.

[Chick McGee]

IPA on the second level there. And some long necks beer, maybe Coronas on the bottom.

[Bob Kevoian]

There's no food.

[Christy Lee]

No, that's Kind of what our garage fridge looks like.

[Chick McGee]

Zero food, protein, protein drinks and beers.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yep, that's kind of what a garage fridge is for.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, well, actually, ours is in the laundry room, but I call.

[Tom Griswold]

Boy, tell us you're not married by.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, that'd be. That'd be like a state fair thing. Just hand them a picture of your fridge. They can tell you your height, your weight, and whether or not you're hitched.

[Tom Griswold]

Some good magnets there.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now this. This next one comes to us from Tom. He goes, tom mentioned Dick's Sporting Goods yesterday morning.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, you did.

[Bob Kevoian]

I forget why.

[Tom Griswold]

You do? No way.

[Chick McGee]

You do, really.

[Tom Griswold]

You just want to make sure we remember.

[Chick McGee]

You forget why.

[Bob Kevoian]

Really? I will say this. I'm in there a lot because we also had. We had a news story yesterday about the amount of money the average person spends on their kids sporting equipment. Remember this? And that was like one in. Was it one in six people think their children are good enough to play professional sports? Yeah. Delusional. But nevertheless, I. I'm a big fan of Dick's Sporting Goods. Certainly. I bought. I just bought some stuff there a couple days ago. I bought a mouth guard. A lacrosse mouth guard. So anyway, this. What Tom writes. It reminded me something happened to me at work. We do a lot of work with a number of companies, including BJL's whole. Excuse me, BJ's wholesale club and Dick's Sporting Goods. We were in a meeting the other day discussing which jobs we had to prioritize. Huh. And we were running out of time on one of them, and my boss said, we'll have to pull dicks for BJ's.

[Chick McGee]

Wow.

[Bob Kevoian]

As soon as the words left his mouth, he realized what he had just.

[Tom Griswold]

Said and just marched himself into hr.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, I hope you got the job done for both Dicks and later on moved on to BJ's Wholesale Club. Now, we also have been talking a little bit about driver's ed. Remember the context of this? Yesterday we were talking with our winner from the.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, yeah. She had a crush on her Driver's edge.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yes. Rhonda Truman.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Uh, how was. What was the question specifically that you asked her, Josh?

[Tom Griswold]

What. What her most are.

[Bob Kevoian]

Her.

[Tom Griswold]

Who she thought was the most handsome teacher.

[Bob Kevoian]

Most handsome teacher. She said it was her driver's ed teacher.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Which leads to this letter. Williamstown, Vermont. So this must be a gorgeous spot. Our driver's ed teacher had a Cadillac convertible. If he had a free period and we had study halls, he would take us out for road trips. My best Friend and I went driving almost daily. When we finished our driving requirements by October, he would take us out driving, pull over to certain areas with great views. He'd take out an easel and paint the fall foliage.

[Tom Griswold]

Really?

[Christy Lee]

That's weird.

[Bob Kevoian]

Years and years later, I purchased the land at one of the pull off spots and built my house there.

[Tom Griswold]

No kidding.

[Bob Kevoian]

Teachers were the greatest.

[Tom Griswold]

Wow.

[Al Jackson]

Well, thank you.

[Bob Kevoian]

That comes to us from art.

[Tom Griswold]

What a cool story.

[Chick McGee]

It's just different.

[Tom Griswold]

Different and odd.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

You're checking out that incredible view.

[Christy Lee]

I think small towns are a little different though, too.

[Bob Kevoian]

And you probably learn more doing that than you would sitting through algebra watching him paint. Yeah, just hanging out. Listen. They were. They were listening to the radio. It was great.

[Chick McGee]

So you want to go take some sort of test to get a job? You just tell them, I don't know any of the answers. But man, this one afternoon I watched this guy paint. You're higher.

[Bob Kevoian]

When's the last time you use the quadratic formula in your life?

[Chick McGee]

I'm just saying.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, okay. Never mind.

[Chick McGee]

It's helping.

[Tom Griswold]

Somebody's using it.

[Chris Francis]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Helping some way.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'm sure I did very well in math.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, did you?

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Did you hear math guy?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, I couldn't tell you any of it anymore, but I memorized all that crap and gotcha. Got through the sats and my dad was a math teacher for a while.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, I thought he graded bar exam.

[Bob Kevoian]

That was later in life. No, when he was. When he was going to law school, he taught math, so. And he was famous because he had to walk with a cane after having polio. But he. I would talk to my friends dads who had had him as a teacher. My father was famous for leaning on his cane and he was a lefty and heaving erasers and hitting students in the head when they were misbehaving.

[Tom Griswold]

Nice.

[Chick McGee]

So it was.

[Bob Kevoian]

He was the Bob Feller of eraser throwing.

[Chick McGee]

It was bodily assault is what it was.

[Bob Kevoian]

His father and these young boys went on to great success life because they had been properly.

[Chick McGee]

Because your father beat him in the head with his cane.

[Pat Godwin]

It's friction.

[Christy Lee]

How do you feel about your kids math?

[Bob Kevoian]

My kids math?

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, because they changed the math since we've been.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, they're both really good at it. Which is.

[Chick McGee]

What would you say if one of your children came home from school and said, my teacher hit me in the head with a cane today, dad, you probably deserved it.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, that's absolutely what my. What did you do? Is what my parents would have asked.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'M not an idiot. I know most teachers out there, they're. They're gonna do what's right, try to get the kids to sort themselves out.

[Tom Griswold]

There should be a school where parents can choose to send their kids to that is essentially 1960.

[Chick McGee]

Oh.

[Tom Griswold]

And they learn that way. And the shop teachers.

[Pat Godwin]

Throw.

[Tom Griswold]

My. My shop teacher used to throw chalk at us a lot.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now in my. In my junior high school, the badass was the vice principal.

[Tom Griswold]

Sure.

[Jeff Oskay]

Always.

[Bob Kevoian]

Always Mr. Garner.

[Tom Griswold]

Three.

[Chick McGee]

Three o' clock high.

[Bob Kevoian]

And then Mr. Mr. Neiman was the, you know, happy, nice guy.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

If, if you got called to Garner's office. Oh, no.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Is that a universal.

[Tom Griswold]

Pretty much.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah.

[Pat Godwin]

Vice president. Vice president.

[Chick McGee]

Anybody other than me get paddled in. In eighth grade.

[Tom Griswold]

We had the paddle in elementary school on the wall.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, okay.

[Tom Griswold]

In the principal's office.

[Chick McGee]

Right.

[Tom Griswold]

And he would just kind of look at it. I promise you, he never, he never used it. I, he. But it was there.

[Chick McGee]

Yes.

[Tom Griswold]

And that was enough.

[Chick McGee]

Right.

[Christy Lee]

I got paddled in sixth grade.

[Chick McGee]

You got paddled?

[Christy Lee]

What did you do, Sister Susan?

[Chick McGee]

What did you do?

[Bob Kevoian]

Did you deserve it?

[Christy Lee]

I was a kickball suit. I was at kickball practice and it was hot. And we were out on that asphalt and there was no water. And I ran across the street to the fire department because the fire department was right across the street from the elementary school to get a drink of water and got in trouble for leaving.

[Bob Kevoian]

School grounds and also crossing the street. They could.

[Tom Griswold]

It was the street and flirting with the firemen.

[Chick McGee]

Come on.

[Tom Griswold]

Beyond.

[Christy Lee]

I was in sixth grade. The street runs behind me.

[Bob Kevoian]

You have such nice abs, Officer Frank.

[Christy Lee]

The street ran behind the school. It was very rarely used.

[Chick McGee]

We should also mention at this point she was 23 and sixth grade.

[Bob Kevoian]

They held her back. Really?

[Chick McGee]

Christy's not a test taker.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, that's. That's. Yeah. Dyslexia. Well, that's always going on. Okay, well, do you have any more letters over there?

[Chick McGee]

Now yesterday we had what we call on the show, a big time hit. Yeah, it was Tom. Finally, what we've narrowed it down is Tom is an alien and he's trying to get boy pass himself off as a human being. And the letters are streaming in. Dear Bob and Tom show My name is Mike. To further Josh's premise that Tom is an alien sent to observe earthlings. Why does Tom continually make references of shows or things of the 50s and 60s as TV and radio waves travel slowly through space? Contemporary, up to date information was not available for his assimilation training. His alien mind thinks Mr. Ed is brand new. He thinks JFK is still in the Oval Office. Then you ask yourself, well, for another.

[Bob Kevoian]

For another week, why would.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, good timing.

[Chick McGee]

He had eight days to live. Then you ask yourself, why would an alien world with the technology to travel across space not pick a more sophisticated individual to better fit in on Earth than Tom? Why not someone who would have better chameleon like skills? My theory? Mike says when it came time to assign an agent to Earth, instead of choosing their James Bond, they sent us their Inspector Cluso.

[Bob Kevoian]

You're welcome.

[Chick McGee]

That is Mike from Edwardsburg, Michigan.

[Tom Griswold]

Very well written.

[Chick McGee]

Thank you, Mike. Thank you, thank you.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now, I don't know if you guys saw it. I sent you something. As you know, I do like a lot of 60s television and. And fortunately, it's still floating around out there. I highly recommend that episode of Mr. Ed. There's a whole psychological component to the structure of a horse that only talks to the one guy. We could get through that. But I. I've always loved the show. McHale's Navy. Did you see the thing I sent you?

[Chick McGee]

Oh, gosh, yes.

[Bob Kevoian]

The crew of Mikhail's Navy singing Papa Umau MAU. It's as if the swords crossed. Two of my favorite things in life. The Papa Umau, of course, from the Rivingtons. A great song. If you get a chance, stream that later today. Dear Bob a Tom Show. You were talking about Alton Brown yesterday. I forget how that came up.

[Christy Lee]

Because we were talking about Molten Brown. Because that's what.

[Chick McGee]

Chicken brown. Yeah. Body wash. Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

Started talking about all the browns.

[Bob Kevoian]

Alton Brown from the Food Network.

[Christy Lee]

Right.

[Bob Kevoian]

By the way, we use his technique for cooking our turkey, writes Clinton. The turkey triangle, made of aluminum foil. After a brief high heat braise in the oven, you place the turkey triangle on the beast. Oh, I'm sorry. On the breast of the bird. And finish your cooking. Have you tried this? Christie, Are you still using the bag?

[Christy Lee]

I still use the bag.

[Chick McGee]

I swear by the bag.

[Christy Lee]

Swear by the bag.

[Chick McGee]

I swear by the bag.

[Christy Lee]

Swear by it.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

I'll never not use the bag.

[Christy Lee]

Yep.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay. I made it into the turkey triangle.

[Christy Lee]

Turkey triangle?

[Tom Griswold]

You think aluminum foil? If there's issues in your house with a bag, try using aluminum foil in the oven. Tom, you're not helping.

[Pat Godwin]

Joe. I'm just saying.

[Chick McGee]

I'm just. Just cater.

[Bob Kevoian]

Cater.

[Chick McGee]

Thanksgiving.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, no, no, no. It's about the journey.

[Chick McGee]

Sit down.

[Bob Kevoian]

Thanksgiving.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah, we know that.

[Tom Griswold]

I have different advice. I say put your foot down and raise your voice a little.

[Bob Kevoian]

You know, you.

[Chick McGee]

I know what you're gonna say, what time do people eat for Thanksgiving? Yes. I. We need to find out the.

[Christy Lee]

And what time if you're. What? When you set the time to eat. What time is your house open for guests?

[Chick McGee]

I. I say it's always half time of the first football game.

[Christy Lee]

That's when you eat.

[Bob Kevoian]

What is that, 3 o'?

[Chick McGee]

Clock? No, the first one's 12:30 on Thanksgiving, so you're gonna be two. Two, half time, that's what. I used to have time, but this.

[Christy Lee]

Year we pushed it back.

[Bob Kevoian]

It really varies. The worst one I ever did. I'm not kidding. We got there at 11 and they'd already eaten.

[Tom Griswold]

What?

[Chick McGee]

Well, that's.

[Al Jackson]

That's.

[Christy Lee]

That's right. Yeah. That's brunch.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. It was a long. It's a long story.

[Chick McGee]

Hey, cut the turkey.

[Tom Griswold]

That's a multiple family type deal, huh?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. They were going hunting and we got there and everything was ice cold.

[Christy Lee]

Okay. So I've had. I'm having dinner at four this year, which is. I usually do two.

[Bob Kevoian]

This is your Thanksgiving dinner.

[Tom Griswold]

That's reasonable.

[Christy Lee]

But what time does the house open?

[Bob Kevoian]

1:11.

[Christy Lee]

Football game is at 12:30. It's got to be.

[Chick McGee]

Kickoff's 12:30.

[Tom Griswold]

Okay. Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

Don't you think?

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Pregame. Noon.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now, who's coming to your house?

[Christy Lee]

Just family.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, yeah.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, and Pat. Pat, you're coming. And Jimmy, Right?

[Tom Griswold]

Really?

[Christy Lee]

Yes, of course.

[Pat Godwin]

I thought you were kidding.

[Christy Lee]

Well, I am kidding, but no.

[Bob Kevoian]

Pat, once again. What'd you say again? 3:45 is arrival time.

[Pat Godwin]

Yeah. Is that true?

[Christy Lee]

Well, Pat, you're welcome.

[Tom Griswold]

Do you have the boy this year?

[Pat Godwin]

You know, I don't know for sure. It's in two weeks, so we'll figure it out.

[Christy Lee]

So what does a single dad do for Thanksgiving?

[Pat Godwin]

Would you like to hear about that?

[Christy Lee]

I would love to hear.

[Pat Godwin]

Do we have time?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Pat Godwin]

Okay, here we go.

[Bob Kevoian]

Actually, we'll have to do it when we get back.

[Pat Godwin]

We'll do it right when we come back and I'll tell you.

[Christy Lee]

All right.

[Pat Godwin]

I express myself through my instrument and.

[Chick McGee]

Then you play the guitar.

[Hugh Jackman]

Exactly.

[Chick McGee]

That's it, baby.

[Bob Kevoian]

That reminds me. That Saturday evening, the place to be is Lima, Ohio, at the UNOH Event Center. You know. You know. Do they call it the you know?

[Pat Godwin]

They do indeed.

[Bob Kevoian]

Right now, the you know and I know.

[Pat Godwin]

Be there, Jeff.

[Bob Kevoian]

And it's Jeff, Oscar, Josh, Arnold and Pat Godwin. This is a great show. Saturday night only, Lima, Ohio. By the way, Pat's doing a solo gig at the famous Ricks Center. I keep hearing Great things about the Ricks Event center in Greenfield, Indiana. So that's coming up tonight. Also coming out of the show today, Al Jackson on his way to somewhere. We'll find out. But right now let's check in with Josh and talk feet.

[Tom Griswold]

Absolutely. We're going to be talking to some shoe designers later on. Al apparently designs shoes as does Mr. Chris Francis. I wonder their thoughts on Orange and Souls. I'll tell you mine right now. Are you constantly on your feet all day? If so, you're busting your backside so you can take care of everyone else this holiday season.

[Chick McGee]

Treat yourself. That's right.

[Tom Griswold]

Spoil your feet and the rest of your body. Busting your backside. You know, I've been thinking about talking to the Origin Souls people. You guys know I don't have much of a rump and that can be an issue every now and again. I'm thinking about orange falsies for my. My buttocks to lift your butt. Yeah. But so I have a meeting scheduled with them.

[Bob Kevoian]

What are you going to go, Are you going to continue the theme and go with orange?

[Jeff Oskay]

Yes.

[Bob Kevoian]

Because would they be like orange butt pads?

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

What would they be called?

[Tom Griswold]

That's what we're. That's what the meeting is. So butt pads. I'll write that down.

[Christy Lee]

Good luck.

[Tom Griswold]

But in the meantime, you know a lot of us here.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's better than ass cheeks. Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

I mean there's certain. There's something. I mean. Well, yeah, we'll get that fixed.

[Bob Kevoian]

I know if you put your orange insoles in your pants in the back, you'd really look lumpy.

[Tom Griswold]

You would. And so that's one of the other things we wanted.

[Bob Kevoian]

So then this would be a different product.

[Pat Godwin]

Orange butthole.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

You can't put all of them together and like and you would not be able to sit down.

[Tom Griswold]

You know, I was ready to move on from it.

[Pat Godwin]

You started.

[Tom Griswold]

I want you to know that the question, the line of questioning only continued.

[Chick McGee]

The emails are flying at Orange Insoles.

[Tom Griswold]

Please Josh, find the right insole for you. @orangeinsoles.com they have the original full length insole which is perfect for all the hard working all day crew. They're built for long shifts for serious all day support. They are also great for work boots.

[Bob Kevoian]

I have them in my new boots as a matter of fact right now.

[Chick McGee]

Don't you get something special if you go to orange insoles.com today?

[Tom Griswold]

You absolutely do. I also though before we get to that.

[Chick McGee]

Okay.

[Tom Griswold]

Because this does lead into that they wrote it in such a way.

[Chick McGee]

Yes, I jumped and I grabbed the wrong life.

[Tom Griswold]

No, you were helping me. I do appreciate it. Orange Sport insoles are out now.

[Jeff Oskay]

Oh.

[Tom Griswold]

For those who are a tad more active, they have O foam technology that help you power through your workouts. You're going to get 40% more energy return with those. And they're three times more durable. They keep you light on your feet with less fatigue and more hustle. So two great choices, the original full length or the new Orange Sport. And now to what Chick was referring to. If you go to orangeinsoles.com today for a limited time, they're celebrating the release of the new Orange Sport. You're going to get $10 off one pair of either the full length Orange insoles or the Orange Sport insoles with this promo code, Bob and Tom. That's right. B O B A N D T O M altogether plus free shipping. This is better than any Black Friday special they've done or will do. It's not going to get better than this. So check it out today. That's orange and souls.com use promo code Bob and Tom.

[Bob Kevoian]

Coming up, we're also going to have one of my favorite features, the fail to mention news with Jeff. Oscar. Oh, yeah. When we return, more letters, more sports and more love. These are the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios. This is the Bob and Tom Show.

[Chick McGee]

Want to share something?

[Bob Kevoian]

Send us an email. Bob and tomobandtom.com this is the Bob and Tom Show.

[Christy Lee]

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[Bob Kevoian]

Soon.

[Chick McGee]

Hey, welcome back to the Bob and Top show at the Silac Insurance News center, it's Christy Lee.

[Christy Lee]

Hello, Chick.

[Chick McGee]

There's Pat Godwin.

[Jeff Oskay]

Hello.

[Chick McGee]

Got A song coming up, right? Yeah. That's exciting. At the IH Steven Singer sidekick chair, it's Josh Arnold.

[Tom Griswold]

Hi.

[Chick McGee]

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[Bob Kevoian]

Well, thank you very much.

[Chick McGee]

Here's Tom.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now we have Pat. Goddamn. We were talking a lot about Thanksgiving.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, we were.

[Pat Godwin]

And I've been invited to Christie's this year.

[Chris Francis]

Yes.

[Pat Godwin]

And I don't know what we're doing, but this takes me back four or five years ago. Just a rough Thanksgiving going through a. Going through a tough time, a nasty breakup.

[Tom Griswold]

So here we go.

[Pat Godwin]

I'm all alone without my son. This Thanksgiving divorce is hard and his mother unforgiving. But I won't spend the whole day Mop. And I'm going to Ponchos, the only restaurant open. I'm having a Mexican food, single dad Thanksgiving. I'll have her cerveza and drunk Tex the ex. Enjoy your turkey. I'm eating Tex Mex. Sarcasm font. Next week we go to court. My ex Husposa wants mucho support. I'm having a Mexican food, single dad Thanksgiving. So Poncho, give me a taco with all the trimmings. I'll shed a tear on my enchiladas and save room for churos this Thanksgiving I'll have a tequila and make a turkey with my hand. It's just me and the mariachi band. Looks like I'm headed for trouble. The single dad is drinking doubles. I'm having dinner at a Mexican place with salsa all over my face. I'm having a Mexican food, single malt Thanksgiving. Take an Uber home and the waitress.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, thank you very much. We have a few more letters to get to.

[Chick McGee]

Dear Bob at Top Show. Not sure if any of you amazing people have been watching the show. 99 to beat. I've certainly seen the promo of it. And silly contests that normally are provided to us from German television. Balancing washers on top of each other. Yeah. Evidently, David Rush was eliminated Tom from the show.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, I'm not familiar with the show.

[Chick McGee]

He couldn't bounce a pencil into a paper cup. Into a cup. Huge shock and even a bigger upset. So there you go.

[Tom Griswold]

How about that?

[Chick McGee]

99 to beat. It's just they have odd contests. It's hard to Explain, really?

[Bob Kevoian]

And he's been going on television all over Europe and breaking records. I think he just did one in Spain, I think. But now, on a serious note, we got this letter. We've been talking a lot about the Honor Guard Veterans Day just a few days back, and we are supporting an organization called Operation Honor Guard. It's pretty serious business. But if you want to make a donation, go to our website. We've got a direct link to theirs. You can reach [e-mail] this comes to us from Justin.

[Chick McGee]

He goes.

[Bob Kevoian]

My dad was an army veteran. He passed away in October of 2024. I was not aware of the honor guard. However, it was a challenging day for us. We got to the cemetery and there was the honor guard. They were absolutely amazing. They made it very clear that a veteran was coming through. They stopped traffic and they honored our father. So please do what you can. I'm not looking for airtime, but it was very helpful for us as a family in Davenport, Iowa. I was never able to thank them. I'd like to thank them right now. The Honor guard is really interesting and really important thing. So if you get a chance, just you make a donation. I made a donation after our show on, what was it, Tuesday? You can do the same. And we are still matching those donations all the way through Thanksgiving. So once again, visit our website while you're there. By the way, on a much lighter note, we have a bunch of other cool stuff, including our NFL competition. But you could win that gift card from Steven Singer jewelers as well as those new shirts. I'm looking at them over there in those weird hanging torsos that we have. If you get a shot of those.

[Chick McGee]

Where do you think they make those?

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't know. They're so odd. It's. It's. They're armless torsos, no head.

[Chick McGee]

Now, are they in the same factory with the heads that you put wigs on and you think that's.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, probably.

[Bob Kevoian]

You could buy.

[Christy Lee]

Probably mannequin.

[Bob Kevoian]

You could buy. Just buy a head and then screw it onto the top. The point is, we have some really cool new shirts, and they're. They're [e-mail] and hats. Oh, no. Yeah, that. Hats.

[Christy Lee]

We have the trucker hat.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah. Yes, he had a hat.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now, do you have any more letters over there?

[Chick McGee]

I do not. I'm fresh out of letters for. For today. Send us our Bob and [e-mail] Travis writes.

[Bob Kevoian]

All right, turkey is a waste of time.

[Al Jackson]

Now, wait a minute.

[Bob Kevoian]

We have Marinated flank steak.

[Pat Godwin]

Wow, that is good.

[Chick McGee]

How do you feel about ground turkey? Take your time.

[Tom Griswold]

I'm buying every week.

[Chick McGee]

I was gonna say turkey burgers.

[Bob Kevoian]

Unless you have some fat in them. They're very dry.

[Chick McGee]

No, no, no. Yeah, I understand that, but they're. If you've got them, if you've got the right mix, you gotta find a turkey burger. Don't lose it.

[Tom Griswold]

And I don't make turkey burgers with them. I just turkey brown it up and add it with turkey chili, cut up vegetables and sweet potatoes. And it's a great little. Yeah, it's awesome.

[Christy Lee]

Sweet potatoes.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, they're.

[Pat Godwin]

They're delicious.

[Christy Lee]

You like sweet potatoes?

[Pat Godwin]

I do, I do.

[Christy Lee]

Do you have a sweet potato song?

[Chick McGee]

I do.

[Pat Godwin]

Well, I have an issue with sweet potatoes.

[Christy Lee]

You do?

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, when we come back, we'll find out what your issue is.

[Chick McGee]

I'm.

[Christy Lee]

I'm liking this.

[Tom Griswold]

I remember the issue and I am excited to hear it again.

[Bob Kevoian]

Coming up, also, we have the Pope's favorite movies. And again, I'm disappointed being a Chicago guy. The Blues Brothers is not one of them.

[Chick McGee]

What if it was like the oldman?

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Exorcist.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Boy, they really rock that man.

[Bob Kevoian]

21 day.

[Chick McGee]

Sweeney Todd or.

[Tom Griswold]

What'd you say?

[Chick McGee]

Spotlight?

[Pat Godwin]

You know, I don't like it.

[Chick McGee]

You know what? A couple things. Hilarious. Very. Secondly, thank you for pulling that. I was trying to think of the name of the movie and you yanked it right out of there.

[Bob Kevoian]

But it's, it's. It'll also lead to a Chick McGee impression, to put it that way. I'm very excited. Comedian Al Jackson's going to join us also. I'm very excited. We're going to talk to the custom shoe guy in LA that has carved feet of the stars.

[Tom Griswold]

You're gonna talk.

[Bob Kevoian]

And he's an old friend of the show. It turns out you'll talk to him.

[Tom Griswold]

The rest of us will barely listen.

[Bob Kevoian]

You're gonna like it.

[Tom Griswold]

I'm gonna be like, we will. This always ends up. We love the guy.

[Chick McGee]

I'll be shopping for shoes while he's talking.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, that's all coming up from the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios, this is the Bob and Tom Show. Thanks for listening to the Bob and.

[Chick McGee]

Tom show this morning.

[Bob Kevoian]

Catch any part of the show you.

[Chick McGee]

Missed later today on our YouTube channel.

[Al Jackson]

November is heating up for us.

[Bob Kevoian]

Soccer.

[Chick McGee]

United States need to be a little more nasty. Make international friendlies for the men.

[Al Jackson]

The rights.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, Callum, that was nasty. And a Black Friday friendly for the women.

[Chick McGee]

Expectations have always been here for this team.

[Hugh Jackman]

We understand that.

[Chick McGee]

Listen anywhere on the go with the.

[Al Jackson]

Westwood One sports app. And for behind the scenes stories, catch the U.S. soccer Podcast. Boy, do we have an episode for you. Follow and listen on your favorite platform.

[Bob Kevoian]

Com.

[Chick McGee]

Hello and welcome back to the Bob and Tom Show. We're in the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios. Christy Lee at the Silac Insurance News Center.

[Christy Lee]

Hello, Chick.

[Chick McGee]

There's Pat Godwin.

[Pat Godwin]

Hey, Chick.

[Chick McGee]

There's Josh Arnold.

[Tom Griswold]

Having an apple right now that is. Is just amazing. Absolutely fantastic.

[Chris Francis]

No kidding.

[Chick McGee]

Now you have salt on your apple.

[Tom Griswold]

No, no.

[Christy Lee]

What kind of apple?

[Tom Griswold]

Gala, of course. Oh, I'm a Galliman.

[Bob Kevoian]

You say gala or gala.

[Tom Griswold]

I say gala when it comes to.

[Bob Kevoian]

The apples, but for a celebration it's gala.

[Tom Griswold]

I say gala when I go to a mostly homosexual party.

[Chick McGee]

What about Fuji apples? Never mind, we'll get to that.

[Al Jackson]

Never mind.

[Chick McGee]

There's Ace Cosby. I'm Chick mcgee and Tom. We have a special guest, the Fuji.

[Bob Kevoian]

Apple, of course, developed by the fine actor from McHale's navy. And his name was Fuji.

[Chick McGee]

His name was. No, the actor's name. Take your time.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yamaha Honda joining us in the studio. Not for long.

[Tom Griswold]

He wants to leave already.

[Chick McGee]

Thick with Fuji it is.

[Bob Kevoian]

Comedian Al Jackson.

[Al Jackson]

What's up, brother?

[Bob Kevoian]

Has joined us in the studio.

[Chick McGee]

It's good to see you, Christy.

[Tom Griswold]

What's the finest. What's the. What do you use for. As a baking apple? What are you supposed to.

[Christy Lee]

Baking apple.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, what are you supposed to use?

[Christy Lee]

A Granny Smith is a good one.

[Tom Griswold]

Okay.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, that's a little tart.

[Jeff Oskay]

This was a test.

[Tom Griswold]

I just wanted to make sure you're out there making bacon pie.

[Chick McGee]

How did Golden Delicious get away with. We're Golden Delicious. How did they get away with that?

[Christy Lee]

Then they went just a Red Delicious.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah. Delicious. Seems like that's.

[Bob Kevoian]

I throw four or five apples, as many as I can cram into my turkey. And then you cook it with those. And then you throw them away.

[Chick McGee]

What?

[Christy Lee]

Oh, you cut up an apple and you cut up an onion and then put that inside your turkey.

[Tom Griswold]

Yes.

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't do the onions, just the apple.

[Chick McGee]

There's a. You put apple juice inside. Really based.

[Tom Griswold]

Some people do that.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

If they're in prison.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah, yeah. Prison food. Yeah. That's good.

[Al Jackson]

That.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Al, do you cook?

[Al Jackson]

I do a lot. I think that I, it's from years of being a stand up comic on the road and I ate so many Wendy's number sixes. Spicy chicken.

[Christy Lee]

I love spicy chicken.

[Al Jackson]

I ate so Many of those that I think so many Subway footlongs that I can't eat. It in my body, like, revolts. So I just learned how to cook. Get a couple seasonings, learn how to throw it down. And when you have a girl over, it's a good time to talk while you're cooking. She's like, oh, this man is skilled. He can do things and just don't get fancy.

[Bob Kevoian]

What's your go to?

[Al Jackson]

Go to salmon. If. If it was, like, a first date. Just because it's really hard to mess that up.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Hey, Tom, why don't you go ahead and guess what other entrees that Al might cook?

[Christy Lee]

What are you doing?

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't know.

[Al Jackson]

Just leading him out into the. Into the arena.

[Chick McGee]

Let's go right ahead.

[Al Jackson]

Just opening that bullpen.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'll do it this way.

[Chick McGee]

Okay.

[Bob Kevoian]

Growing up.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

What kind of food did you have in your home?

[Al Jackson]

My mom was like, now it. It rolls off everybody's tongue. Words like quinoa and.

[Chick McGee]

No, no kidding.

[Al Jackson]

My mom was on this in the 80s, bro. My mom was going to the food co op Bag, reusable bag, like, and it just. I always. You know, as a kid, you want to go to the grocery store like normal people, and you'd be like, why does it smell like dirt in here? Like, it's just like. It was, like, very Hipp. Was very. Like, she was in grad school. So we were eating Brussels sprouts and pita bread and all. And as soon as you get to school, you try and trade. Nobody's having any of that. So I got used to just, like, Brussels sprouts and stuff like that early in my life. So now that everybody's like, I'm a health person. I'm like, my mom's been on this since, like, 86, bro. Catch up.

[Chick McGee]

Wow.

[Al Jackson]

And my dad, totally different. My dad didn't.

[Christy Lee]

He ate five things.

[Al Jackson]

My dad ate five things.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

Do you remember one of them?

[Christy Lee]

I remember.

[Bob Kevoian]

Was it one of them lasagna?

[Al Jackson]

Yes.

[Bob Kevoian]

Stouffer's lasagna, an excellent product, by the way. Manufactured right near his home.

[Al Jackson]

Yes. From the Stouffer's factory in Ohio. We would go there when they closed at six o', clock. Christy. And we would sit there with our headlights on. We were like. We were waiting to confront our ex wife, and you could go in there and you could buy the dinged Stouffer. So, like, that wasn't good enough to go to the store. Like, somebody kicked it by accident. Well, we're gonna buy that that's awesome. Yes. But, Kristi, you remembered. You said steak. That's on there.

[Christy Lee]

Steak as on there.

[Al Jackson]

Spaghetti. Spaghetti and those big naval oranges and tuna fish. That's it. Nothing else?

[Chick McGee]

What about that? Sweet. Sweet.

[Al Jackson]

I don't think that was on the menu either. My dad was from a different town.

[Bob Kevoian]

Welcome to let's Reinforce Dirty.

[Tom Griswold]

He would go to the brothel early in the morning and get that dinged up.

[Chick McGee]

Sit in the parking lot with his lights on.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah. About 5:00am when everybody that dance.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay with me.

[Al Jackson]

You got any girls that didn't have their man's money? I'll take that one.

[Christy Lee]

Did he drink coffee all day?

[Al Jackson]

All day?

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

Two pots. Yeah, two pots, all day.

[Chick McGee]

Smoker?

[Al Jackson]

No, he quit cold turkey when I was born, so I've never seen my dad.

[Bob Kevoian]

What brand?

[Al Jackson]

He was like, menthol, like, probably.

[Bob Kevoian]

Cool, cool.

[Tom Griswold]

Salem cool.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

But I never saw my dad smoke or drink. He quit cold turkey.

[Chick McGee]

Wow.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, my dad quit smoking cold.

[Chick McGee]

You know, generation just could do that. Yes.

[Pat Godwin]

My dad too.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

And there were still cigarettes in the house. And I would go, hey, you want me to get rid of those? And he goes, no, the second you get rid of those. The second is the second I go buy a pack of cigarettes. He had to have them around, not smoke.

[Bob Kevoian]

And he was Marlboro Reds, right?

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, yeah. Marble Reds in the soft pack.

[Pat Godwin]

Wow.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah. It hit me. My kids will probably not have any friends that smoke when they go to college. And that's, like, amazing to me.

[Chick McGee]

It is.

[Tom Griswold]

It's great.

[Al Jackson]

That whole generation just doesn't exist anymore.

[Bob Kevoian]

They can vape.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, that's not as cool.

[Bob Kevoian]

Not sure which is worse. Well, welcome to the Bob and Tom program. We're hanging out with a comedian, Al Jackson. Oh, Mahomet, Illinois, tonight at a place called Yellow and Company. Yes, Al Jackson, stand up comedian. Also, we'll find out where you're gonna be Saturday in a few minutes. But right now we were gonna have.

[Christy Lee]

Pat sing a sweet potato song.

[Bob Kevoian]

We've been going over the menu. Obviously, we went through the most popular sides in America and there's a couple.

[Tom Griswold]

Different lists for Thanksgiving.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, yeah. You can imagine. But the controversial one is macaroni and cheese.

[Al Jackson]

What's controversial about that?

[Tom Griswold]

Well, it's divisive. Some families say we've always had it. Some families say we would never have it.

[Al Jackson]

Never.

[Tom Griswold]

I'm of the group of. We never had it but for Thanksgiving. But I see why people would.

[Al Jackson]

Would you have, like, green bean casserole.

[Tom Griswold]

On one of the families yeah, that's.

[Bob Kevoian]

Very high on the list.

[Chick McGee]

List.

[Al Jackson]

Okay. Christy, are you.

[Christy Lee]

My mother used to make green bean casserole. I do not do that anymore, but I do make Mac and cheese. That's a big deal.

[Al Jackson]

I feel like it's. It's almost as important as a turkey.

[Christy Lee]

Thank you.

[Al Jackson]

Am I tripping?

[Chick McGee]

No, no.

[Tom Griswold]

But that's what makes for such a great topic.

[Chick McGee]

I feel the same way.

[Bob Kevoian]

And I. I have said I'd like to reject Jell O in any form at Thanksgiving. I'm with you on that one. I hate that jello salad with the bananas in it that.

[Christy Lee]

Can't. Nobody makes that.

[Tom Griswold]

You know, I'd be fine with it if I thought anyone wanted it, but it's one of those things that just gets completely.

[Chick McGee]

Don't make work for yourself. Nobody's going to eat it.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, if I saw anyone else enjoying it, I'd be like, no, that needs to be there. But you don't.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay. All right, now.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, I'm sorry. Did I speak?

[Bob Kevoian]

No, no, no.

[Al Jackson]

It's enough of your Thanksgiving chat.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, I think we've all been getting a lot.

[Chick McGee]

We're having a nice conversation. It's about time for him to go.

[Pat Godwin]

All right, everybody.

[Chick McGee]

Everybody shut up.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay? You think you're having fun? You're not. Now, I just wanted to get. I. I'm aware of the time. And Pat is a song. It's a tribute to sweet potatoes. But, Josh, let me get this straight. So if someone wanted the jello, then you'd make sure we had it? Because I think you said that three times. Okay, good. You got that?

[Tom Griswold]

No. The audience knows who the villain is.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, yeah. You know what? They're listening just like we are. That's right. Here's. Ladies and gentlemen, Pat Godwin.

[Tom Griswold]

Ella.

[Pat Godwin]

I'm a guy who does his business at home I'm in and out fast I like to be alone. Then my doctor put me on a new diet. Superfoods foods.

[Jeff Oskay]

Al.

[Pat Godwin]

I'll try it. He says eat sweet potatoes but holy cow, I'm at the drugstore and my ass says now Took a sweet potato poop out of CVS Sweet potato poop, sweet potato poop There was a girl in the john Taking a pregnancy test yeah Sweet potato poop, sweet potato poop oh, it gives you no water, no brown alert I had sweet potato pie for dessert Took a sweet potato poop at my church yes, sweet potato poop, sweet potato poop and those grunts and gases don't sound like burps no sweet potato poop Sweet potato poop. While I'm out in public and out of the blue, I'm at a Baby Gap doing number two. Took a sweet potato poop, blew up the can. Sweet potato poop. Sweet potato poop. They called a cleanup crew and a fireman. Sweet potato poop. Sweet potato poop. Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

I apologize. I thought it was a sweet, sweet potato song.

[Pat Godwin]

Was a sweet, sweet potato.

[Christy Lee]

No, it was not.

[Tom Griswold]

I looked over at Tom at one point, and he was physically shaking his head.

[Bob Kevoian]

Happy Thanksgiving.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

But his face was red. He was laughing.

[Bob Kevoian]

Do you allow your guests to use your bathroom, Christy, or do you.

[Pat Godwin]

Of course.

[Christy Lee]

Where are they going to go? In the yard?

[Chick McGee]

Now, that would be.

[Tom Griswold]

That's a.

[Bob Kevoian]

We have a. We have a. You're. We have a bucket with your name on it. Each of you take your bucket into the garage. Garage. If it's cold, if it's warm, please go outside.

[Al Jackson]

Is there a silent judgment if somebody takes a dump at your crib a little bit?

[Jeff Oskay]

A little bit.

[Tom Griswold]

A little bit.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

I mean, you're understanding, but that's a home poop.

[Al Jackson]

You brought that here.

[Chick McGee]

Everything. Yeah. There's a reason. There is a home field advantage. You don't take that on the road.

[Al Jackson]

Al, did you have the thing at.

[Bob Kevoian]

Your house where one of the bathrooms had those towels when you'd have an event? They had those towels hanging in the bathroom. The hand towels that were made of something completely non absorbent. They had the absorbency factor of aluminum foil.

[Chick McGee]

But it was like.

[Bob Kevoian]

And they were ironed, and you really felt, well, I'm going to just wipe this on my pants because I don't want to disturb the. The beautiful knit turkey towel hanging here that's been ironed.

[Chick McGee]

Yes, it was an ornate chenille turkey and a cornucopia.

[Bob Kevoian]

I swear, we have some. They. They would not. They cannot soak in any moisture. I'm not sure what their function is.

[Al Jackson]

That was of the time for those women that kept their houses pristine. Like, my grandmother used to clean her silver. My grandmother would clean her curtains. And those towels were not for wiping your hands. That was for her to show off how she cares for her home.

[Bob Kevoian]

You might as well just take. Take a towel and frame it with glass and dangle it from the towel bar and then just say, wipe your hands on your pants, Lloyd.

[Christy Lee]

So you don't offer for your guests the hand towels. I mean, the disposable ones. And the little basket that you put on the counter.

[Bob Kevoian]

I've never even thought of that.

[Chick McGee]

They have, like a. I Think Kleenex puts out a paper towel in a box, a decorative box.

[Christy Lee]

They make a very nice dec. Decorative, like basket. And then you buy like I have Thanksgiving throwaway.

[Jeff Oskay]

How about that?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, I like that. Do they have a turkey theme?

[Christy Lee]

Yes.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, how nice.

[Tom Griswold]

I just hire a bathroom attendant from the local strip club for.

[Bob Kevoian]

Doesn't that bathroom attendant sell barbecue sauce?

[Tom Griswold]

He does, yeah. Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

And you go in there every time he goes. How's it going out there?

[Bob Kevoian]

Back at the club, for 200 bucks, I get something you could really lay your teeth into.

[Al Jackson]

What do you think a bathroom attendant makes in a night, man?

[Bob Kevoian]

Good question.

[Tom Griswold]

It's gotta be primarily tip based.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

What do you tip? A five?

[Al Jackson]

I think you probably get the ones and the nones. And then you get a guy that is definitely on some kind of stimulant.

[Tom Griswold]

Right.

[Al Jackson]

And they. I remember when I would dj, there would be a guy that wanted to show off and he'd come over, give you 50 bucks if you play Snoop Dogg next. You got it, bro. And I bet that same guy's going to the bathroom just like. I like your face. Here's 20. Give me that Drakkar Noir. Here's another 20. I think they're like, probably like whales. Like there are in the poker world. There's like a whale that just comes in and tips you real good for the.

[Bob Kevoian]

With the lack of cash in our culture these days, does the bathroom attendant. Can you Venmo the guy?

[Chick McGee]

Right.

[Tom Griswold]

I wonder if they have a QR code sitting right there.

[Al Jackson]

I'm sure they do. Yeah, sure.

[Chick McGee]

Well, maybe Zell. Zell's getting pretty tight about who you. Where you're sending your money. They. They are.

[Al Jackson]

Are they really?

[Christy Lee]

I can't even get Zelda hook up to my bank. It's tough.

[Bob Kevoian]

They just said. Was it yesterday only 14% of typical retail transactions are cash now. Was that the number?

[Tom Griswold]

Huh?

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Pretty. Pretty low. Coming up, we have some exciting things in the world of both sports and news, including the Pope's favorite movies. And I think one of them is Chicago based, which makes sense. That's where the Pope grew up. We have roosters.

[Chick McGee]

Millions.

[Pat Godwin]

He loves.

[Chick McGee]

He loves it. You can't get enough of it.

[Christy Lee]

Not on the list.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, they're for the most part. I think you could probably guess at least two of them. We'll give you a shot at that coming up. But right now it's time for you.

[Chick McGee]

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[Bob Kevoian]

Thank you very much, Chick Magee. Coming up, what are the Pope's favorite movies? What are the feet like of carved wooden feet in Hollywood? I know it sounds weird where we're going to talk to the guy that.

[Christy Lee]

Does it weird at all.

[Bob Kevoian]

Along with comedian Al Jackson from the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios, this the Bob and Tom Show.

[Chick McGee]

Hey, welcome back to the Bob and Tom Show. We're in the O'Reilly Auto Parts studios. Think O'Reilly Auto Parts. For all your car care needs, get the parts and service you need fast from the professional parts people at O'Reilly Auto Parts. Christy Lee.

[Jeff Oskay]

Hey.

[Chick McGee]

At the Silac Insurance news desk. He scared the heck out of but he nailed it.

[Tom Griswold]

He nailed it.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's the o' Riley Owen.

[Chick McGee]

There's Pat Godwin. There's Josh at I Hate Steven Singer, sidekick chair.

[Tom Griswold]

Thank you, Chickster. Visit Stephen singer [e-mail] to find out why he's the most trusted jeweler in America. And the most hated jeweler in America by other jewelers. That's ihatestevensinger.com There's Ace Cosby.

[Chick McGee]

I'm Chick Magee at the Prize Picks Sports Desk. And Tom, we have one of our favorite, our favorite guests here today.

[Bob Kevoian]

That would be comedian Al Jackson in person yet on his way to Mahomet, Illinois and at a place called Yellow and Company. Tonight only.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Jacks for some stand up comedy. I've got an idea here.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, boy.

[Bob Kevoian]

Remember the era, Remember the era of MTV Unplugged?

[Christy Lee]

Sure.

[Bob Kevoian]

What if we did the O'Reilly auto parts jingle unplugged? We could do kind of do a, do a deep. Oh, oh, oh, oh, right. Oh, slow it down.

[Chick McGee]

Kind of a, kind of a. When Eric Clapton did Layla. Yeah, yeah. I didn't care for that.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, I didn't.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

This is a terrible idea. Why am I even continuing with it?

[Chick McGee]

We have go to O'Reilly Auto Parts. They've got everything you need, man. Don't they put your wipers in for you. You've told me this and I wouldn't, I didn't believe.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's amazing.

[Al Jackson]

That's a bigger deal than people make it. Oh, yeah, because I've tried to put my wipers in and it's. You always remember that it's easy. But then when it's time to, you panic and you're like, I don't want to have to go back in there and ask another man to put my wipers on.

[Tom Griswold]

You're exactly right. I've had some where I got them on fine and then others where I'm like, this is the hardest. I don't know how any human does.

[Al Jackson]

Right?

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

I, when I, I talked to the guy and I said, which wiper should I get? And he explained it to me and we looked him up and then I said, there is no way on earth I can do this. He goes, I'll do it. Then he walked out. Boom. It was great. And then I, and then funny enough then I came back an hour later with Kelly's car and said, hey, remember me? I'm the guy that's too stupid to be able to put wipers.

[Tom Griswold]

So you took advantage.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, I did. Very. He was, he was very nice and I really appreciate it.

[Al Jackson]

We got a mark.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now we are going to visit the world of sports. Is that correct?

[Chick McGee]

Yes, we are. And it's the war time in Major League baseball yesterday. No exception. Two Way Star show. Hey, Otani doesn't work.

[Tom Griswold]

We don't like it.

[Bob Kevoian]

Explain to Al how this started running.

[Chick McGee]

Back then for the Giants, now for the Eagles, say, Quan Barkley. See, that's just wonderful.

[Bob Kevoian]

See, and that wasn't the first one.

[Chick McGee]

Which one was the first. I forget.

[Bob Kevoian]

Wasn't the first one a tennis player?

[Al Jackson]

No, it was Patrick Mahomes. You used to go, patrick Mahomes.

[Bob Kevoian]

That I would go, My man.

[Tom Griswold]

My man.

[Bob Kevoian]

This started with some tennis player.

[Chick McGee]

Don't go changing Michael Chang.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, could be that one. I love that one.

[Chick McGee]

But we're trying to. We're trying to get show. Hey, Ohtani.

[Tom Griswold]

We also had a Hugh Darvish.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, that's a good idea.

[Chick McGee]

Now you. Darvish.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, sorry.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah, yeah, me too.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Yes, that's right.

[Bob Kevoian]

Is it pronounced U?

[Chick McGee]

Yeah. Why you. Yeah, it's not Hugh.

[Bob Kevoian]

Because there's, of course, the famous. The famous uncle. The head of the UN Spell his first name letter U.

[Chick McGee]

Anyway.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yes. You're not familiar with Uthant?

[Al Jackson]

No.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yeah. And then he went on to become very successful. He developed a. A company that rented vehicles.

[Chick McGee]

What was that called? That's right.

[Al Jackson]

Knew it.

[Chick McGee]

Shohei Otani, the MVP internationally. Aaron Judge, the MVP of the American League.

[Tom Griswold]

Well, this is one, too.

[Bob Kevoian]

Aaron.

[Chick McGee]

Aaron Judge here.

[Bob Kevoian]

Come to judge.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, my God.

[Chick McGee]

How do you feel?

[Tom Griswold]

We really toned it down because alc.

[Chick McGee]

It up normally. It's here, come to judge.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, dude.

[Al Jackson]

Tom looked over at me and gave me two thumbs up like I was on an aircraft carrier.

[Pat Godwin]

That's cool, right?

[Chick McGee]

You caught the line.

[Bob Kevoian]

I remember, Al.

[Chick McGee]

I was.

[Bob Kevoian]

I was reading that this quote was that that rap music was invented, I think they said, in 1979 by the Sugar Hill Gang. And I said, I beg to differ.

[Al Jackson]

I agree.

[Bob Kevoian]

It goes way, way back. And one of them there was a gigantic hit song.

[Chick McGee]

Pig Meat.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's a pig meat.

[Tom Griswold]

Markham.

[Bob Kevoian]

Right. And I can play a little snippet of it, I think here. That's Sammy Davis Jr. On laughing. And didn't they get Nixon to do it?

[Chick McGee]

Oh, soccer to me.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'm not a crook. Henry. How about more booze? So you're looking for.

[Chick McGee]

Hey, hey. The King of Swing.

[Bob Kevoian]

This. This one, I think. And this. This goes way back. This is way before.

[Chick McGee]

Near and far.

[Al Jackson]

I'm going to Paris to stop this.

[Chick McGee]

War all those cats got to listen.

[Tom Griswold]

To me because I am the judge.

[Bob Kevoian]

That you can plainly see I want a big round table when I get.

[Al Jackson]

There I won't sit down to Wonder.

[Chick McGee]

Square I'm gonna lay down the law.

[Bob Kevoian]

Great.

[Tom Griswold]

There's no denying this is a rap song.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

And it's what, 30 years voice is so great.

[Tom Griswold]

It is great. And that's. That whole song is great.

[Chick McGee]

Guess who won the. The American League mvp. Tom, your thoughts here. Aaron Judge, Guess who should have won the American League mvp? Cal Raleigh.

[Al Jackson]

The Big Dumper.

[Chick McGee]

Should have won.

[Al Jackson]

Should have won. He should have won.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

You think he likes being called the Big Dumper?

[Chick McGee]

I think he does. I think he embraced it. Yeah. And wasn't he signed as a spokesman.

[Tom Griswold]

For Portable or Dude Wipes or something?

[Chick McGee]

What was it one of those.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, it was.

[Chick McGee]

I want to say we had a picture of him outside of Porter Jones.

[Tom Griswold]

And he did do something.

[Chick McGee]

It was called the Big Dumper.

[Bob Kevoian]

Wouldn't you be making enough money not to sacrifice your dignity for that?

[Chick McGee]

What?

[Tom Griswold]

Why wouldn't you just grab that bag as they.

[Chick McGee]

Did you just say that. You know me, you remember some of the things.

[Bob Kevoian]

Captain Dignity.

[Chick McGee]

Captain Dignity.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'll see if I can find the big dumper.

[Christy Lee]

1968 is when that song was released.

[Tom Griswold]

There was a great documentary series out there called, like, the History of Hip Hop. And they absolutely mentioned Pygmy.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, they do, did they really?

[Al Jackson]

That did.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

That means they went deep. They didn't just do the kind of visceral Sugar Hill Gang. They were important, but, like, they were like, hip hop was initially for, like, house parties, to just keep the party going just for local events at the park. And so, like, that kind of rap is like, palatable to people hearing it for the first time that aren't gonna hear it again on a record that's definitely rap.

[Tom Griswold]

It was amazing how it all started and how sampling all started. I had no idea what an art form that was. I mean, I always knew that it was cool, but I didn't. I mean.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, it's really. I mean, it's a fascinating. It's like the music you make when you don't have anything to make music almost.

[Bob Kevoian]

You know, right now when I used to take requests and they would want to hear Sugar Hill Gang, Rappers Delight.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

They would never ask for Rappers Delight. You know what they asked for?

[Al Jackson]

Hotel Motel. Yeah, that's. That's what I remember.

[Bob Kevoian]

They could play Hotel Motel.

[Al Jackson]

I would know what they were talking about.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, I. I put a little street on that. I appreciate, you know.

[Al Jackson]

Well, you know, my favorite pastime is I love to watch old school hip hop videos. Before hip hop was a big deal because they had no budget. So if you look at, like, old LL videos, like, they didn't have like a. Like a street producer to, like, block off the sidewalks. There's just, like, old ladies pushing, like, the shopping cart, like, looking like, what are they doing? Like, it is. The lighting is horrible, but the premise is ridiculous. Every rap video in, like, the late 80s was them going to a station that did not play rap music, beating up the DJ and putting their album on. And I was like, I don't think this is the best way to go about getting your music played. They don't play rap on the station.

[Tom Griswold]

A lot of those videos there was, like, a stray dog.

[Al Jackson]

Random, random stuff.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's also true if you watch the early days of MTV there. I mean, there's this one Journey video. They must have spent half an hour filming it.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

They're walking through a warehouse district. It's so stupid.

[Pat Godwin]

One day we'll defend it.

[Bob Kevoian]

The early days before. Then all of a sudden, they got the budget and you get Peter Gabriel.

[Al Jackson]

Right.

[Bob Kevoian]

Making these.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Very, very cool. Now, I'm not sure how we got from sports to this, but we're here.

[Chick McGee]

And here we are, New England Patriots, winners of eight straight games. A rookie, Trayvon Henderson. Ohio State, gentlemen. Yep. Rushed for two touchdowns. Made a touch touchdown catch. Patriots beat the jets last night, 27 14. Tom, you want to cover the importance of the.

[Bob Kevoian]

So yesterday in the on when Chick was doing his picks against our winner, Rhonda Truman, who was really cool and fun from Whitewater, Wisconsin. We. Those are done against the spread on the shoe in. Let's see the spread. New England minus 13 and a half.

[Chick McGee]

So, of course I said New England will cover the 13 and a half.

[Bob Kevoian]

What was the vital score? 2714. 2714 for those of you playing at home.

[Chick McGee]

So I hope you had the jets plus the 13 and a half.

[Al Jackson]

It's called a bad beat.

[Chick McGee]

It's a bad beat, baby.

[Christy Lee]

Called crazy. How do they got you with the hook?

[Chick McGee]

That 13 and the hook.

[Christy Lee]

It got me twice last weekend.

[Al Jackson]

It's amazing.

[Chick McGee]

This happens five or six times every week with the point spread. It gets this close. I don't know how they know, but anyway, they had. The Patriots had their nor' easter uniforms on last night. A kind of a light powder blue. Don't you love a picture?

[Bob Kevoian]

I love the word nor'. Easter.

[Tom Griswold]

They're nice.

[Chick McGee]

I. I like.

[Christy Lee]

That's pretty.

[Jeff Oskay]

I like.

[Bob Kevoian]

They look like the Colts uniforms.

[Chick McGee]

No, the blues.

[Christy Lee]

The blue's different. Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

I think there's quite a distinction, but I. Yeah, yeah.

[Al Jackson]

You know, who the patch should hire is, like, whoever Navy hires every year to make their special uniforms. Like Navy has army and Navy have like, really cool uniforms every year for their Army, Navy game. I think New England needs to lean into that, like, you know, ship, whatever mentality they got and like, I think make like a cool retro helmet. They're almost there with that uniform. I like that.

[Bob Kevoian]

I want to do this just for you, Al. Did you see the. A lot of the teams are doing the retro uniforms. They're going back in time. And the. The funniest ones were the Pittsburgh ones. They look like giant bees.

[Al Jackson]

Those are so weird.

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't know if you saw this, though. A couple weeks ago, the Baltimore Ravens were their throwb uniforms. They dressed as the Cleveland Browns.

[Al Jackson]

That was hurtful. That was hurtful. It. It. You know what? That wound has never closed right. It's still. Yeah, it still stings. Because they, like, took the real Browns. I think I. My boy sent me a screenshot. I think the Browns are like either under 200 or 400 games. Under 500 since they came back. Yeah. Like, just. I feel like they took the real Browns and just brought back a guy that looks like our dad. But it's not.

[Chick McGee]

And people don't understand when you tell them when the Ravens won the super bowl, it was like. You can take some comfort in that. No, no, no, no. Not.

[Tom Griswold]

Not at all.

[Al Jackson]

Fighting words.

[Chick McGee]

Yes.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yes. I know you grew up a long time. You're a long time Cleveland Browns fan.

[Al Jackson]

It's. It's. It's awful. Like, it's not fun for me. My friends, we just, like, we every week. I just. I. I know my friends are sad all over the country. It's a very. It's very weird. Josh, like, when I look even like, like chicky. His team's having a down year, but they had a good year last year. And like, you have like, we have nothing. There's. It's never been good. Not one.

[Chick McGee]

Well, and they won the world championship one year before the Super bowl started.

[Bob Kevoian]

Dr. Frank Ryan, quarterback Gary. Jim Brown, Gary Collins, Dick Schaffraff. But you're Dick Schaffra.

[Al Jackson]

Sounds like an illness till the end, baby.

[Christy Lee]

That's.

[Al Jackson]

Can I tell you my favorite, just so people understand how crazy Browns fans are? My uncle Ben, who lives with my mom, S.C. is that right?

[Pat Godwin]

Awkward.

[Al Jackson]

That's why I'm not awkward. I'm sitting on that Uncle Ben money. That's why. That's what that swag is nice. But die hard Browns fan took me to my first, you know, calves, all that and you know, he's a little Bit older guy and he had to get a procedure in which he had to go under. And my mom took him to the procedure and he's, they put the gas on him and he takes the mask off and he points and he says, what's that? And in South Carolina, whatever technician was working on him had a Pittsburgh Steelers bumper sticker on the wall. And the last thing he said before he went out, he pointed was like, what is that down? And then went, ouch. It's to the absolute from our cold dead hands. I don't care if we never win.

[Christy Lee]

That's admirable, man.

[Al Jackson]

We're going down with the ship, baby. What is that?

[Chick McGee]

Fans of fan.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, we're hanging out with comedian Al Jackson.

[Chick McGee]

Puppy Dogs coming up in the world record, Tom.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. Oh, a bunch of cool stuff coming up. We've, we've got Al Jackson on his way to Mahomet, Illinois at a place called Yellow and Company. And let's see now, Mr. Pat Godwin, you're gonna be joined by two great comedians. Oh, yeah. Jeff Oskay and Josh Arnold.

[Al Jackson]

Oh, wow.

[Chick McGee]

Josh Arnold on stage.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's gonna be Saturday night in Lima, Ohio at the Unoh Event Center. You know, you know, you know what? Nobody. Nobody. I get nothing.

[Tom Griswold]

Well, we didn't know what it was. We would have happily joined in.

[Bob Kevoian]

Maybe we should do only you know and I know Dave Mason song. Or perhaps not. We are currently in the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios. My plan is to come back here and for you to join us. This is the Bob and Tom Show.

[Chick McGee]

This is the Bob and Tom Show. Reach us toll free at 1-888-bobtom1 [e-mail]. this is the Bob, Bob and Tom Show. We're in the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios. There's Christy Lee at the news desk. Hi, there's Pat Godwin. Hello, Josh Arnold.

[Tom Griswold]

Hi there.

[Chick McGee]

Ace Cosby. I'm Chick mcgee. Hello, Tom. How about that special guest? Look at him.

[Bob Kevoian]

One of our favorite people in the world is comedian Al Jackson. I thought conversely, let's do a list of the comedians we hate. We'll start with you, Chip. Go ahead. We have that kind of time.

[Chick McGee]

It has to do with a banjo.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'll tell you that. We gotta get. We gotta get Al.

[Tom Griswold]

Steve Martin.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah. What a pain in the ass, that guy. Earl Scruggs.

[Bob Kevoian]

We have to grab a T shirt and a sweatshirt for Al before he leaves on his way to Mahomet, Illinois at Yellow and Company. Tonight only. Al, look at behind you. We have these Cool.

[Hugh Jackman]

New.

[Bob Kevoian]

We got a nice holiday. Holiday T shirts and sweatshirts.

[Al Jackson]

Oh, those are mine.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. That one is a hoodie.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, boy.

[Bob Kevoian]

And I've never worn a hoodie.

[Christy Lee]

I know. I want you to try it on. Just put it on.

[Al Jackson]

You've never in your life wore a hoodie on?

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't think so.

[Christy Lee]

He doesn't own sweatpants. He won't wear a hoodie.

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't own sweatpants.

[Al Jackson]

No, you might really like. What do you wear when you don't feel well? Slacks.

[Christy Lee]

He has pajama pants.

[Bob Kevoian]

No, you mean if I'm at homesick?

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, if you're just home kind of bumming around.

[Bob Kevoian]

I wear a pair of like Lululemon shorts.

[Christy Lee]

Of course.

[Bob Kevoian]

And a polo shirt. Usually a Billy Reed or.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, my God.

[Bob Kevoian]

Sid Mashburn.

[Chick McGee]

Sid makes a nice product. Oh, so.

[Bob Kevoian]

I love Sid. I love Billy.

[Chick McGee]

Love Sid.

[Christy Lee]

Boy, man, are you. You don't just.

[Tom Griswold]

I don't even know what those words mean.

[Christy Lee]

You don't even throw on some old Navy flannel pajama bottoms and lay down.

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't own any pajamas.

[Tom Griswold]

Huh.

[Christy Lee]

I thought you did.

[Bob Kevoian]

No.

[Tom Griswold]

I would have thought full night cap.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

Wait a minute.

[Bob Kevoian]

No. I used. I used to wear beach pants to bed, right? And I quite literally had two pair of those that I finally wore holes in them. I'd worn them for a decade. They were pinstriped like.

[Christy Lee]

Like mattress tickets.

[Bob Kevoian]

Like sycamore. What's that called? Not sycamore. What's that stuff called?

[Christy Lee]

Seersucker.

[Bob Kevoian]

Seersucker.

[Al Jackson]

Thank you.

[Bob Kevoian]

I was close.

[Chick McGee]

It's made from the sycamore tree.

[Bob Kevoian]

Everybody knows I'm tired. Stop asking me questions.

[Hugh Jackman]

Okay.

[Bob Kevoian]

The point is, Al, that'll hamstring them.

[Chick McGee]

A radio show. I'll tell you that.

[Bob Kevoian]

We have an opportunity for people to purchase these fine T shirts and sweatshirts. I would like to thank Ms. Hooker for bending over backwards to get these organized. And they're really cool. And Al, I'd like you to turn around and look at. See how they're not hanging from hangers. They're hanging from. Those are. Those are torsos of human beings. Oh, God, those are so bizarre.

[Tom Griswold]

I think they're. I mean, they're perfect.

[Al Jackson]

It's the way that you show. Like this is what your body will look like when you put these on.

[Bob Kevoian]

Except those things have six pack abs. Well, I'm working on that.

[Al Jackson]

They're incentivizing you.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'm down to two. Got the first two going.

[Tom Griswold]

I'm not being a smart Ass here. Are there. If you go to like Lane Bryant or.

[Al Jackson]

The answer is yes.

[Tom Griswold]

Okay.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

Fat mannequins.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yes, definitely.

[Al Jackson]

They do.

[Chick McGee]

Plus size.

[Christy Lee]

And it like size.

[Al Jackson]

It makes sense. Just in general. That's the body type of people that are going to be buying these clothes.

[Tom Griswold]

Plus size just means fat. And if we're really going to get over any kind of fat shaming, we should be, we should just say fat. That's like, that's like step number one of body positivity is not being offended by the word.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's like, it's like the way the gay community's taken on the word queer. Same thing, Right. I suppose that that's just too awkward for me to say.

[Christy Lee]

Well, I don't know about that.

[Bob Kevoian]

But Al, let's take this to a racial level.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah. What words do you want to go after? Every. You know, I definitely. I feel what you're saying, man. Because if you say that it's not that you calling somebody fat is a bad thing that you're saying, you're saying that it is a bad thing. So bad I can't say it. And I don't think it's a bad thing.

[Tom Griswold]

Right.

[Al Jackson]

I think however you are is beautiful dog. So, yeah, I don't mind. I've always said the same thing about like when people get weird, when they're like, if I'll be like, oh yeah, my car's over there. See what the two Asian guys are right there. And people like, you can't say. I'm like, is there something wrong with being Asian?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, exactly. They just trashed into each other.

[Chris Francis]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

See now that maybe that's what, maybe that's their issue. They're like, you're not the problem, but what you're doing is you're putting it on a table for a five year old with a batting helmet to come knock off. But yeah, I don't, I feel the same way. I don't, I, I don't think there's anything wrong with being fat or however you want.

[Bob Kevoian]

And they do have, they do have. How did you word it?

[Tom Griswold]

Heavyset, Larger mannequins? Yeah, absolutely.

[Bob Kevoian]

In fact, I just walked by a display the other day that had blue jeans and they quite literally, it was like the chart of early man. It went from skinny, semi, normal, normal, heavier, right next to one another.

[Al Jackson]

Well, you know what they do? I didn't know that. Different mannequins. Yes. You could have like the fat mannequins and the air quotes. Traditional ones, but in certain cities, like Miami, Mannequins have booty.

[Chick McGee]

Right, Right. Oh, yeah.

[Al Jackson]

Booty.

[Tom Griswold]

As they should.

[Al Jackson]

Right.

[Tom Griswold]

You know. Right.

[Al Jackson]

But in other stores, the mannequins have. It's straight up and down like six o'. Clock.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

Flat.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Did you know that we get this story about every six months and it's always out of Miami. Someone is adding size to their buttocks with some guy from the trunk of his car.

[Chick McGee]

Fix a flat.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's always one time. It really was. This guy was putting fix a flat in the buttocks of. That's a term of ladies. Insane.

[Hugh Jackman]

I.

[Al Jackson]

It's so terrifying.

[Bob Kevoian]

But I think Fat Mannequins sounds like a band that would be opening for somebody at Coachella.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, we know you do.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Al Jackson]

And that's definitely a name somewhere. Absolutely it is.

[Bob Kevoian]

Have we finished our sports broadcast?

[Chick McGee]

Yes, we have, but we have our. What do you think's coming out?

[Tom Griswold]

But apparently this one's adorable.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yes.

[Chick McGee]

A group of 10 dogs from China have achieved a jump roping world record.

[Tom Griswold]

No way.

[Chick McGee]

According to Guinness, owner Zhu Yong ming brought his 10 white fluffy dogs onto the set of a show called Low Show Day Record.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, it wasn't on the Food Network to attempt.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's not Korea, it's China.

[Tom Griswold]

Sorry.

[Chick McGee]

You know, when I saw this story, though, that would. I thought this opens to a couple of musings. Right.

[Bob Kevoian]

After a lot of these records, they always. They give it to the local food bank.

[Chick McGee]

They attempted the record for the most jump rope skips by a person and 10 dogs in one minute.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, I love this. So a person join them.

[Chick McGee]

They performed a total of 25 jumps in 60 seconds to earn the record.

[Bob Kevoian]

Do we have the video of this?

[Chick McGee]

I believe we do.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, there we go. You can see the guy. These are little white dogs. I'd say about 15 pounders, wouldn't you say, Christy?

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, they're cheating.

[Christy Lee]

They're poodles.

[Bob Kevoian]

What do you mean they're cheating?

[Tom Griswold]

They're on four legs.

[Bob Kevoian]

But now, wait a minute. Now there's the. A shot of them. There's a shot of all the dogs standing together on separate, like pedestals. And they all stay.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, they're. They're cheating. That alone, they should all have to stand on their hind legs the whole time.

[Christy Lee]

Look at those cute little pools.

[Al Jackson]

I used to host that show.

[Christy Lee]

You did?

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Pat Godwin]

One man, ten pools.

[Chick McGee]

Are you kidding?

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, I hosted that show. It's called Officially Amazing. When I did it, it was shot out of the UK. We did 100 episodes on the BV. Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, that's right. I remember you talking about it.

[Al Jackson]

I watched that kind of stuff. I spent probably six years of my life watching the most random. And the best thing about it is people wouldn't really know what we were doing because we would do it during the seventh inning of a minor league ball game. And we were in like Santa Cruz, California one time, and this kind of like, pretty hot chick was trying to break the record for jumping rope with one of her legs behind her head. So just on one, you know, but she was. She was wearing the matching biker short halter top things. I think she was just naturally attractive. And I remember being on the microphone and being like, all right, whatever your team is, are you guys ready? And the fans are like, what is happening? And this hot chick went out to the mound and put her leg behind her head and started doing jumping jacks. And people were like, my kids are here. It was like the. But it's all like, seeing that, like, was a flashback to my, like that random period of my life where I saw almost every world record broken and how serious they take it. Like, that guy, I guarantee if he didn't get it, he'd be like, I've had to pick those guys up all the time.

[Tom Griswold]

Didn't you say you had like a semi fame in the UK where school kids would walk up to you and dude, like, they recognized you all the time.

[Al Jackson]

It came on twice a day. Like, the show was super popular. It was aimed at like middle school kids. So like 7am and 3:30 in the afternoon every day. They saw me. So yeah, it was like such a weird. If I kept that going, like five more years, I'd have a nice bass over there to tour with.

[Bob Kevoian]

But who's the woman that just came back that rides the unicycle and, oh.

[Christy Lee]

And throws like red panda?

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, Vicky Lawrence comes up under her head.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, she did?

[Chick McGee]

But that was way early.

[Christy Lee]

God, no one listens to me.

[Tom Griswold]

I hear you.

[Al Jackson]

Did she do halftimes?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yes. NBA.

[Chick McGee]

I think it might be Red Panda. Yes.

[Bob Kevoian]

I hate you.

[Tom Griswold]

Thank you, Chick.

[Al Jackson]

I'm here for you, Chris.

[Bob Kevoian]

She's back. She. She had hurt, been injured, and she's made a comeback, which is so cool. I love that she's like 8 or 10ft off the ground on a unicycle, heaving stuff onto her head.

[Al Jackson]

She's the LeBron James of the halftimes. Because when you get NBA League Pass, you see a lot of these arenas are. Mail it in, bro. Because it's 41 home games and they're like, we have the Catholic Women's League. They're gonna sing like they got nothing until Red Panda comes back and she kills it.

[Chick McGee]

I don't think that's.

[Tom Griswold]

No. Check your mind and us all. That was red pants.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, that's Red Pan. Thank you very much.

[Tom Griswold]

That was gna. Drive me crazy if you hadn't said anything.

[Chick McGee]

Can you get the guy who. Who does all the Village People by himself?

[Bob Kevoian]

I love.

[Christy Lee]

He can't still be alive.

[Chick McGee]

There's got to be someone.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, he probably passed. Probably passed it along to his adopted son, I think.

[Tom Griswold]

Has to be God.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, hey, we'll be right back with Al Jackson and Red Panda. We are in the O'Reilly Auto Part Studios, and I believe that Red Panda's on the phone.

[Bob Kevoian]

This is the Bob and Tom Show.

[Chick McGee]

Thanks for listening. Portions of the show brought to you by Champion Windows.

[Bob Kevoian]

This is the Bob and Tom Show Theater. It's awesome.

[Chick McGee]

Hey, welcome Back to the Bob and Tom Show. We're in the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios. Thank O'Reilly Auto Parts for all your car care needs. Get the parts and service you need fast from the professional parts people at O'Reilly Auto Parts. There's Christy Lee.

[Christy Lee]

Hi, Jake.

[Chick McGee]

She's at the Silak Insurance news desk.

[Christy Lee]

I am.

[Chick McGee]

Hello, Christy.

[Hugh Jackman]

How are you?

[Chick McGee]

I hear you speaking to me.

[Christy Lee]

Thank you.

[Chick McGee]

You're welcome. There's Pat Godwin. Hello. There's Josh Arnold.

[Tom Griswold]

Hi.

[Chick McGee]

He's at the I hate Steven Singer Sidekick Gym. There's Ace Cosby. Hey, I am Chick McGee at the prize Pick sports desk. And Tom, please say hello to our special guest.

[Bob Kevoian]

He is comedian Al Jackson. And a couple quick things. Now, Al, do you find this particular look that Christy has today sexy? It's. She's got on a. A puffy down vest.

[Al Jackson]

And I've been looking over at her. I'm just like, that's such a good look.

[Christy Lee]

Really?

[Bob Kevoian]

And then a big check flannel shirt. It's kind of a. Let's go camping.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

By the fire.

[Al Jackson]

I don't see camping. I feel like we're already in the cabin. She's just like. She's not making a big meal because there's not even enough stuff to make a big meal. But she's like, we're gonna have something hearty. You gonna start this fire, and then we gonna see what's up. Like, that's what that outfit says. She already got the big mug with her.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

Good to go. That's a good look.

[Tom Griswold]

You know, what you're wearing. It's almost like you're in a Hallmark movie and this is the quote, unquote, meet cute, where the guy in the suit and tie pulls up and he goes and he's looking to buy the Christmas tree farm. He wants that land for a resort.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yes.

[Tom Griswold]

And you're busy on the farm. And he comes in and goes, hey, how are you? And you guys kind of flirt at first, but then he goes, I'm here to look at the land.

[Christy Lee]

I'm not selling my land. This has been in my family for generations.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, nailed it.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, that's it. That's it.

[Bob Kevoian]

And then. And then it ends with him with a shovel on the tree farm.

[Christy Lee]

Yes. Helping out.

[Bob Kevoian]

Helping out. And then, then it goes 30 years later and he's secretly got Visqueen and lie and he's burying her.

[Chick McGee]

Yes, that's right.

[Christy Lee]

See, I thought you were gonna go.

[Tom Griswold]

That was a Lifetime movie. I heard a holiday conversation. People were talking about how some folks for the holidays are decorating their home in the Ralph Lauren style.

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't know.

[Tom Griswold]

What does that mean?

[Christy Lee]

More Americana.

[Chick McGee]

They have. There's an entire section of home goods.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, I had no idea that they were into interior design.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, he does home. I really like the Ralph Lauren. It's very country, very warm.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'm doing a German guy. Santa Claus.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, okay.

[Chick McGee]

Isn't he Norwegian?

[Tom Griswold]

I thought Scandinavian.

[Chick McGee]

Scandinavia. Or we said Scandal Hoover, but I believe.

[Bob Kevoian]

Wasn't he developed in Germany?

[Chick McGee]

I'm not sure I like that, though.

[Christy Lee]

That's because I didn't know that.

[Tom Griswold]

Apparently it's back.

[Christy Lee]

Huh?

[Tom Griswold]

Or something.

[Bob Kevoian]

So, well, that. Speaking of the holiday season, got this nice letter from Santa from Anthony in Kentucky.

[Chick McGee]

Did he mention me?

[Bob Kevoian]

Kind of. He said, I just wanted to thank you for helping me. I have already finished my Christmas shopping.

[Tom Griswold]

Well, how about that?

[Bob Kevoian]

Everyone is getting Omaha steaks and Raycon earbuds.

[Christy Lee]

Nice.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'm glad it's over.

[Christy Lee]

Wow.

[Bob Kevoian]

Thank you.

[Chick McGee]

That's great.

[Bob Kevoian]

By the way, by the way, he says, Anthony says, I'd like to trade a set of 14 inch rims for a 1989 Geo Metro.

[Chick McGee]

That's right.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'll take 125. Or trade them for a bottle of Cabernet. So apparently we're doing tradio now. Thank you very much, Anthony. I certainly appreciate you.

[Chris Francis]

That.

[Al Jackson]

That does make me think. Do you think the holidays are more pleasurable to people because you don't have to go to the store and battle it out? Like really go to the mall?

[Christy Lee]

Oh, you mean with the online.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah. To shop was like a Thing where you're like, I gotta get something for Christy. That would mean you'd have to go to a store just for her, then a store just for your grandkids, and now you're done in, like, 40 minutes.

[Tom Griswold]

But I honestly still try to do it. Part of the holidays for me is going to the store. So I, I, I, I love it, even though it is. But I'm also. I just go knowing it's gonna be difficult.

[Christy Lee]

Right.

[Al Jackson]

It's okay to want to go see people. Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

I don't mind standing in a long line. I'm pretty patient with that stuff. And, yeah, I like hearing the music.

[Christy Lee]

In the store and supporting smaller businesses.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah. So you're absolutely right. But I, I try to. I still do at least one or two days of actual going out and buying gifts.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now. Have you bought any gifts yet?

[Al Jackson]

Absolutely not. Of course I will. I just, you know, as Josh was thinking, I was thinking, I was like, do we need to retire the phrase Black Friday? Just because the real Black Friday used to mean something really mean. At, like, 4am you're going down there, your wife, like, grabs you by both shoulders and, like, don't come back here without a flat screen. And you know what that means. You know what that means, dude. If by any means necessary, that's the only way you can afford that tv. And it was, like a physically taxing event.

[Christy Lee]

Right. Well, now. And as Tom always talks about, the seasonality is gone. Black Friday sales have already started. Yeah, yeah, we got started today.

[Bob Kevoian]

A whole bunch of them.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Already they're doing more like a Black Friday month.

[Christy Lee]

Exactly.

[Bob Kevoian]

And I don't care for that.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, yeah.

[Christy Lee]

I've already bought Christmas presents.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, I've got a. I've got a handful.

[Bob Kevoian]

Does anyone really. Is it like, they're really gonna drop what they're doing because it's Cyber Monday?

[Tom Griswold]

I mean, there are some killer deals, but no many people take part in Cyber Monday.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

But, I mean, you're looking at me skeptically, but they really do.

[Bob Kevoian]

But are they really changing it just for that one day, do you think? Or is it really.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, the prices.

[Chick McGee]

Well, but now seems to me they do. You're talking about the entire. This is dangerous territory. Does anyone really change prices at any time or they just promote the heck.

[Al Jackson]

Out of a certain Black Friday stuff used to be cheaper. And punch in another adult. It was cheaper.

[Chick McGee]

No. And Reese's peanut butter cups used to be bigger, too. Too. Okay.

[Christy Lee]

Ding dongs, man.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah. Yes. I want to see the. The factory. What do they call the molds the.

[Christy Lee]

History of the mold?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yes.

[Tom Griswold]

I want to see the twinkie mold from 82.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

And the one from now and measure.

[Chick McGee]

Them and when Ho Hos were invented in 68 or whatever it was when we were kids. And yeah. Ho Ho's originally size of a loaf of bread.

[Bob Kevoian]

Also, I think I'd like to see. I'd like to see balloons representing the amount of air inside a bag of potato chips.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

It used to be the size of a softball. Now it's a basketball worth of air in those chips.

[Al Jackson]

They're getting us from every side. There needs to be. There used to be places where the consumer could kind of skirt the corners, and there were still deals for us. And now everything. They put all the air legally possible. Like, there needs to be, like, I remember, like, McDonald's used to do just like every, like, six months, they would put two fish sandwiches for five bucks. That was enough for me. I want some deals. And that's why I'm like, I'm not sure if Cyber Monday. Are they just moving the prices around or is it like a deal where it's like, I didn't even want a tv, but I have to buy this? Like, I want that kind of deal for Cyber Monday.

[Tom Griswold]

McDonald's is still great with that. If you. Hey, can I have the McRib meal? Yes. Would you like a second McRib for a dollar? They do that, and then I wipe the tear and I. I absolutely would.

[Al Jackson]

I love.

[Bob Kevoian]

Are you. Are you a filet o fish man? Because I am.

[Al Jackson]

Absolutely.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's my go to.

[Al Jackson]

I didn't realize, like, what an old man order the fish sandwich was.

[Bob Kevoian]

It is. Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

Especially if you get a coffee with it.

[Pat Godwin]

It's real tasty, but it's a filet.

[Jeff Oskay]

Of fish and a black coffee.

[Al Jackson]

That meal comes with three grandkids. Like, that is an old man order.

[Bob Kevoian]

But, Josh, I get the iced tea.

[Tom Griswold]

Well, that's not as old.

[Bob Kevoian]

Again, I do get the. I do get the big fries.

[Christy Lee]

You know, Arby's still does the two, four sandwiches.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, Arby's is making a little come up. They got their.

[Christy Lee]

Their steak bites are really good.

[Al Jackson]

Their steak bites. And they. You know what they did, Christy? They picked the lane. They were like, you guys can do all your fancy ice cream coffees. We got meat here. Yeah, that's what we do here. We got meat, we got roast beef, duck, what you want to do. And I really respect what Arby's has done. And like, now I used. I would drive by Arby's and be like, are they money laundering? Like, there would be no cars. I'm like, how are they? But now it's like almost with curly fries.

[Tom Griswold]

They figured it out.

[Christy Lee]

And they figured it out. Potato cakes back, too, which was strong.

[Al Jackson]

Shout out Arby's.

[Chick McGee]

All right, now, Arby's.

[Bob Kevoian]

Speaking of coffee.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

I want to say hello to our friends at Java House.

[Chris Francis]

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[Bob Kevoian]

This portion of the Bomb and Tom show sponsored by Java House, the official office beverages of the Bob and Tom Show. We're about to take a break. When we do see this blue thing, Al. This is the science of hydration. This is the Arctic freeze. Liquid science. This baby, you just peel it, pour it. I'm gonna add some nice cold water and drink this thing to get hydrated. Of course. Also lots of different coffees and teas that we're all drinking. We got a new thing going on. We have divvied up in our green room. Everyone's kind of taken their favorite thing. Java House has created something new. Al. These look sort of like they'd go in a Keurig. They don't. Here's the Colombian coffee. I got it over here. This. You just pour this with, add your hot water and you've got, in this case, cold brew. Colombian. You can add. You can make it cold.

[Chick McGee]

Cold brew. If you.

[Al Jackson]

I need this in my life.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's up to you. It's peel and pour. It's a lot simpler. You don't need any gadgetry. You just take off and have some fun and have some coffee. What we're doing right now, I'm the coffee guy. So I have.

[Chick McGee]

Yes.

[Bob Kevoian]

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[Christy Lee]

Oh, my four pack includes caramel and vanilla lattes, which are amazing. The caramel cold brews and hot cocoa. And it's hot cocoa season right now.

[Chick McGee]

And I've got the four pack bundle. Liquid Science, Arctic freeze and orange. Arctic Freeze Wrangler Energy and a cold brew.

[Tom Griswold]

Delicious. And they've got my bundle down to a tea.

[Chick McGee]

That's right.

[Tom Griswold]

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[Bob Kevoian]

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[Christy Lee]

Oh, coming up, we're going to talk about Pope Leo's favorite movies which might surprise you.

[Tom Griswold]

We get to make some guesses.

[Bob Kevoian]

I think you can guess at least one of them.

[Christy Lee]

I think you could guess one of them.

[Tom Griswold]

I've got two guesses that I think.

[Christy Lee]

Okay.

[Bob Kevoian]

They're not on their own.

[Chick McGee]

Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.

[Christy Lee]

No, that's not on there.

[Tom Griswold]

80 for Brady.

[Bob Kevoian]

Last Tango in Paris. We could go on.

[Chick McGee]

Where's my Roy Cohn?

[Christy Lee]

I know my favorite bits around here was what somebody would do instead of having sex. Remember when we used to do those? Well, that's actually a survey now what you would rather do than have sex.

[Bob Kevoian]

And we'll find out what the answer is from the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios. This is the Bob and Tom Show.

[Chick McGee]

Welcome back to the Bob and Tom Show. We're in the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios. There's Christy Lee at the Silac Insurance news desk.

[Christy Lee]

Hi. I have a. Hi. A little review of your donut purchase.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, all right. Yes, the big don'ts behind the scenes. There was a donut frenzy this morning. You'll find out here in a second. There's Pat Godwin. Hello, Josh Arnold.

[Tom Griswold]

Hi there.

[Chick McGee]

Ace Cosby. Hey, I'm Chick McGee. Hello, Tom.

[Bob Kevoian]

Hello, Chick McGee. Joining us in the studio, the one, the only comedian, Al Jackson.

[Christy Lee]

He's family.

[Bob Kevoian]

Al's on his way to Mahomet, Illinois at Yellow and Company tonight only. What do you got going over there, Christian?

[Christy Lee]

Well, Chick ordered donuts for us, which. Thank you very much.

[Chick McGee]

You're welcome.

[Christy Lee]

And there was a special flavor from Krispy Kreme, I believe I called it. I call it the airline cookie doughnut.

[Chick McGee]

Because it Biscoff cookies. And they also have a Biscoff peanut Biscoff cookie butter, I guess what they call that.

[Bob Kevoian]

And that.

[Christy Lee]

Don't you agree that that's how they got famous was because everybody on the.

[Chick McGee]

I think so. That's how I plane.

[Christy Lee]

I never heard of them. Didn't care for it.

[Chick McGee]

Didn't care for it, you're saying. Son of a guy.

[Al Jackson]

I like how you walked him right up to it.

[Chick McGee]

I will tell you that it was.

[Bob Kevoian]

Going to be something.

[Christy Lee]

I was very disappointed.

[Chick McGee]

I will tell you. Well, you know who, if I could remember the name of that woman who performs at the NBA game, Red Pan, probably.

[Christy Lee]

It's got nothing. I Mean, I just didn't.

[Chick McGee]

I. I will tell you that I was disappointed in how much cookie butter was in the middle of the dough.

[Christy Lee]

Not very much.

[Chick McGee]

Not very much at all.

[Christy Lee]

Not at all.

[Bob Kevoian]

So wait a minute. You don't like it, but there wasn't enough of it.

[Chick McGee]

Exactly.

[Christy Lee]

Right.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, it's like the old joke.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, the old joke.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Nobody goes there. It's too big.

[Tom Griswold]

Well, the food here is terrible. I know. In such small portions.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

I think. I think it may have been better had it. Had more cookie butter in it.

[Chick McGee]

Thank you.

[Al Jackson]

Maybe no bisque.

[Christy Lee]

No, I like the biscoff a lot.

[Al Jackson]

I think the biscoff is kind of like.

[Christy Lee]

Ah, you don't like them?

[Al Jackson]

No. I feel like I should be drinking, like, Earl Gray tea and looking out over Scotland Yard.

[Chick McGee]

That's perfect.

[Christy Lee]

That's exactly why I love it.

[Bob Kevoian]

So we've already.

[Al Jackson]

But I'm black, so I don't want to do that.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, oh. What do you.

[Al Jackson]

Oh, oh.

[Chick McGee]

So it's like a. Like a Kool Aid flavor.

[Bob Kevoian]

Is that what we're talking about? Do you feel self. Do you feel. So Al Jackson is our guest. Do you feel self conscious if you do something that might be considered stereotypical?

[Al Jackson]

Not anymore. It's changed. And there's been a lot of resentment from, I think, black people my age that watch our kids do stuff. And it's not a thing socially. Like, I was looking at the prelims for the X Games, and it looks like the United Colors of Benetton assignment. It's every kind of kid. If you had a skateboard as a black kid in 1980, you would get. You would not be able to attend school. I think it's a beautiful thing. I think it's like, it doesn't matter what you look like. Go do your thing. But, like, I do get a little jealous. I'm like, do you know what would have happened if you had strolled up to Fairfax elementary or the skateboard and be like, I'm about to do a flip turn.

[Tom Griswold]

Is it the movie Dope that kind.

[Al Jackson]

Of addresses this sort of.

[Tom Griswold]

Did you ever see that?

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, yeah. Saw Dope.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

And first of all, very underrated movie. Incredibly, very underrated movie. And you know what? Really kind of, you know, I think skateboarding has always been its own kind of underground kind of enclave, but there were movies where there were just black skateboarders, and it just really normalized it. And I think that that is like, what we're seeing now. But I think a lot of black kids did not do anything. Because everything you did, it's like, oh, you just. I guess you're not one of us. And you're like, dude, I just went to Olive Garden. I didn't know.

[Pat Godwin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

What do you want?

[Al Jackson]

Tell me what I'm allowed to do. It's like, really?

[Chick McGee]

Let me see the pressure again. Let me see the booklet.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, it's just like, give me the five bullet points of things. And it's just like everybody's into everything. So I think that's the cool thing about it.

[Christy Lee]

That's what we've strived to do.

[Al Jackson]

Right?

[Christy Lee]

That's what we are trying. We want everybody to be able to whatever they want.

[Al Jackson]

Absolutely. It's. I'm down for that.

[Bob Kevoian]

All right, now, movies. That. Very good. I was going to go just there. Go ahead.

[Christy Lee]

Pope Leo the 14th has revealed his all time favorite movies.

[Tom Griswold]

I have some guesses.

[Christy Lee]

Variety posted a video of him sharing his top flicks and they are. Go on.

[Tom Griswold]

I'm going to say on this list. Going My Way or the bells of St. Mary's or both.

[Christy Lee]

Neither.

[Bob Kevoian]

Whoa, whoa.

[Tom Griswold]

Then he's not. He's not my Pope.

[Chick McGee]

He's not my Pope.

[Tom Griswold]

I'm not Catholic.

[Christy Lee]

Anyway, he's my Pope and I really like.

[Bob Kevoian]

I was very upset that Sister Act 2 back in the Habit was not on there.

[Chick McGee]

Are there Bible, if you will, movies on there? No, no.

[Tom Griswold]

Why would more of a modern Going My Way is like in my top 10. Why wouldn't it be in the Pope?

[Al Jackson]

I have a conclave enclave is not on there. Is Ferris Bueller's Day off on there?

[Christy Lee]

No.

[Bob Kevoian]

See, that's because he's a Chicago guy.

[Jeff Oskay]

Great guess.

[Tom Griswold]

You know, It's a Wonderful Life is on there.

[Christy Lee]

Number one. It's a Wonderful Life. Yes.

[Tom Griswold]

Well, Jimmy Stewart. What about the Quiet Man?

[Al Jackson]

No, but this guy's an idiot.

[Pat Godwin]

Hey, what about Boys Town?

[Chick McGee]

What about the original taking of the felon123 with Walter math Out?

[Pat Godwin]

Is that on there?

[Tom Griswold]

What about Shop around the Corner? I mean, these are shop.

[Chick McGee]

No, no barber shops on there. And barbershop too, right?

[Tom Griswold]

Friday?

[Christy Lee]

No, no.

[Al Jackson]

And no National Lampoon. Oh, all right.

[Tom Griswold]

Well, what else?

[Bob Kevoian]

I mean, the first of all, this is one of those things. No matter what he does, he's not. You can't win.

[Christy Lee]

Right?

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, exactly. Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

The other movies on his list are the Sound of Music.

[Tom Griswold]

All right.

[Christy Lee]

Ordinary People.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's a surprise.

[Pat Godwin]

That is a surprise.

[Bob Kevoian]

But that, that's Mary Tyler Moore. Donald Sutherland.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, don't they Lose a Son.

[Bob Kevoian]

Timothy Hutton is that in. Does that take place in Chicago?

[Christy Lee]

I don't know.

[Chick McGee]

I thought it was Ohio or something.

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't know why.

[Christy Lee]

It looks very Midwestern.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

And the other one is Life is Beautiful. Don't even know what that movie is.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, that's Roberto Benigni.

[Jeff Oskay]

And.

[Christy Lee]

See the one, he won the Academy Award. I saw it.

[Chick McGee]

Started climbing on the furniture like he.

[Tom Griswold]

Beat Tom Hanks from Saving Private Ryan. Yeah. Yeah, he's good, but he's not Tom Hanks and Saving Private Ryan.

[Chick McGee]

No, but who is?

[Al Jackson]

There needs to be something when you start handing out Oscars to rewatchability.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

And no shade to Life Is Beautiful. I'm sure it's a very poignant, moving period piece about something that needs to always have light brought to it. But that's a lot of the problem that happens in the black community when there are movies about 1950, 1960. Like, I know it's a good movie. I know Michael B. Jordan does an incredible job. But I don't want to watch that on a plane. I don't want to watch that with my girls. Sometimes the sad movies are like. Even if they're good, I don't know if I'd ever be like, let's watch Life is Beautiful.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

When would you watch that?

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, I agree. The Pope shared his list ahead of a meeting with prominent figures from the film world. According to the statement, the pontiff, quote, has expressed his desire to deepen dialogue with the world of cinema and in particular, with actors and directors, exploring the possibilities that artistic creativity offers to the mission of the Church and the promotion of human values.

[Tom Griswold]

I thought it was weird he invited Harvey Weinstein for a couple reasons.

[Al Jackson]

Sinners, too.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

What else was on that list?

[Christy Lee]

That's all.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's. That's. I couldn't find any more.

[Chick McGee]

How's the Fast and the Furious? Any of those? I don't get that.

[Bob Kevoian]

How about Nothing with Leo DiCaprio?

[Chick McGee]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Picked his name, for God's sake.

[Chick McGee]

Right?

[Pat Godwin]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

You think he. Why are you looking at me? Christy, you. Because the Pope picks his own name.

[Chick McGee]

Man.

[Al Jackson]

I love it.

[Christy Lee]

The Pope does pictures.

[Chick McGee]

I love that Wolf of Wall Street. I tell you, he did not.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, well, go watch Going My Way.

[Christy Lee]

What is Going My Way?

[Pat Godwin]

That's fantastic.

[Bob Kevoian]

Bing Crosby.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah. The great Barry Fitzgerald.

[Christy Lee]

Is it a comedy?

[Tom Griswold]

It's so sweet. There are some laughs in there. Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

As part of this, you were absolutely.

[Tom Griswold]

Certain you 100% would have been money.

[Al Jackson]

That should be a category, though. Movies that men think are sweet. Oh, I think that's interesting. Like there was a.

[Christy Lee]

A.

[Al Jackson]

A movie John Candy made called Only the Lonely.

[Tom Griswold]

So sweet. With Maureen Sullivan.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yes.

[Al Jackson]

And it was just like a really good movie.

[Bob Kevoian]

Hilarious.

[Al Jackson]

It was just a good movie about a good guy in a weird relationship. He had a weird relationship with his mom and it was understandable. And I. I don't know, it was just like one of those movies that like, I think a lot of guys are like, I like that story.

[Tom Griswold]

Right.

[Al Jackson]

That's how my dad used to be. I like him.

[Pat Godwin]

He brings Ali Sheedy home.

[Chick McGee]

Right?

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Christy Lee]

Josh likes these sweet.

[Tom Griswold]

I do, I do.

[Christy Lee]

I like Hallmark guy.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, don't ask him about Going my Way. He gets real upset now.

[Tom Griswold]

I don't know why I should recuse himself from all.

[Al Jackson]

Do you have a.

[Bob Kevoian]

So what do you give me a couple more of those sweet. You say sweet for guys movies?

[Tom Griswold]

Well, that's. That's kind of Al's.

[Chick McGee]

You know what? I bet one of the sweetest guy movies would test really high. Butch and Sundance, probably with Redford and their. Their relationship. I bet a lot of original Butch cast. Original. They find that very sweet.

[Bob Kevoian]

One of them would, for me, would be my favorite year. Probably Mark Lynn Baker.

[Chick McGee]

Probably. Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's a terrific. If you've never seen that, that's a great movie.

[Al Jackson]

I haven't seen that. No, it's great. What's the premise?

[Bob Kevoian]

It's there. It's the. It's based on sort of like a Sid Caesar 50s era live TV show. Live television show. And they take Alan Swan, who was played by Peter o', Toole, is this drunk, super famous, like Errol Flynn type actor who comes to guest. It's hilarious.

[Tom Griswold]

And essentially a young intern has to kind of babysit him.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's Mark drunk the whole week. He's terrific. I kind of like that. Incredibly.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah. I think it's really funny. Yeah. I remember when my. My dad and I watched Sideways, he goes, finally they made a romantic comedy that guys can appreciate.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, yeah. Huh.

[Bob Kevoian]

Sideways is in my top 10. I've watched it 20 times.

[Al Jackson]

I heard that tanked. The merlot industry had an effect, I bet.

[Bob Kevoian]

So briefly. Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's one of the great scenes of all time.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, there are. He only released four movies, so you didn't miss it.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, okay.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

Cool.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah. Looks like Spike Lee's gonna be a part of this event.

[Tom Griswold]

He should.

[Christy Lee]

He's one of the more Meet in the boat. Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

Spike Lee should do a Hallmark movie. That'd be cool.

[Tom Griswold]

Delroy Lindo. Just.

[Bob Kevoian]

What Would he call it do the Santa thing?

[Chick McGee]

I was gonna say do the right guy.

[Tom Griswold]

What was your.

[Pat Godwin]

Marry the right guy.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yeah, right, right.

[Pat Godwin]

Rich guy.

[Al Jackson]

What would you say? The premise of 90% of the hallmark movies you watch is old.

[Bob Kevoian]

They meet when they. They meet.

[Christy Lee]

We just did one.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. They're not necessarily a obvious match. And then they come around and it's.

[Chick McGee]

Almost always that the girl finally discovers that she likes the guy because he's rich. He's rich Now.

[Christy Lee]

She didn't know it at the first.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, is that. Is that like an online cynical thing?

[Pat Godwin]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Secretly rich guy.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Pat Godwin]

Is that true?

[Christy Lee]

All of a sudden he's. Oh, he's princess.

[Chick McGee]

When we went to high school, I didn't really notice you, but now that you own. Oh, he's a former Microsoft, I guess we can see.

[Tom Griswold]

I don't like the prince ones.

[Christy Lee]

You don't?

[Jeff Oskay]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

For the most part. I don't like the royal ones.

[Chick McGee]

Oh.

[Al Jackson]

Did I tell you, a close, close family friend of mine, I went to college, that I went to, I grew up with, went to high school with. She married a legitimate African prince. Whoa. Legitimately. Like, people told me about it because this was obviously after high school and we went our different ways and.

[Bob Kevoian]

Her.

[Al Jackson]

Parents introduced my parents, and that's why I'm here. Like, they put my parents on their first date. So I've known her whole life. And I was like. I looked at her Instagram and like, she's like swimming in the Galapagos. I heard when they got married, they flew everybody to wherever country in Africa, first class. Like, everyone.

[Christy Lee]

Like, she should have stayed close.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, she gorgeous.

[Pat Godwin]

She real pretty.

[Al Jackson]

No, no, I didn't know. I didn't say that. No, she's.

[Chris Francis]

She's pretty.

[Al Jackson]

It's just like, I just didn't. I did not see her marrying an African prince.

[Tom Griswold]

Interesting.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, but like a real one.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's not the guy that emails me every couple days.

[Al Jackson]

There's one real one and she found him.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

By the way, I told you to send that guy. He's in trouble.

[Chick McGee]

I don't know. I sent him ten grand.

[Bob Kevoian]

What's your problem?

[Tom Griswold]

We're doing our part.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yes, I'm afraid to open any email now.

[Christy Lee]

I have good news about that. Google said it has disrupted the foreign cyber criminal group behind the tech scam that's been operating with the E Z Pass and the USPS saying that you have a package or if you don't pay this.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, the problem is they're all based in China and they can't actually get to them.

[Christy Lee]

Well, they say this is a big news story just hit this morning that they have apparently blocked the cloud server that has been used for the phishing or smishing operations.

[Tom Griswold]

Okay, good.

[Bob Kevoian]

But, I mean, it's everything. Everything I get one every day for. We're gonna loan you $50,000. Oh, yeah, you have a traffic ticket. You've never paid in a city. You've never driven.

[Christy Lee]

They're trying.

[Bob Kevoian]

My solution's much simpler.

[Tom Griswold]

What's that?

[Bob Kevoian]

We find them every Friday night. We burn them at the stake. Madison Square Garden. I'll be happy to set the fire. If you keep doing this, you're gonna get burned alive.

[Al Jackson]

That would be highly effective.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. Because I do believe. I believe in cruel than unusual punishment. I think it's much more effective.

[Al Jackson]

Well, there you go. Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

I got one. One time that it said my bank and I needed to call them and this, that, and the other. So I called the bank, bank, and they're like, no, no, no, that's. Stay away from that. And I said, well, how my. We will. If we need to contact you, we will put the last four digits of your card number in the email.

[Bob Kevoian]

But they've gotten to the point where they can get. They can.

[Chick McGee]

But it looked real.

[Bob Kevoian]

They can make the logos. Everything looks completely legit.

[Chick McGee]

Yep.

[Bob Kevoian]

I go on yesterday, I didn't pay my mortgage.

[Chick McGee]

Yep.

[Bob Kevoian]

Be nice if it was the correct bank. It wasn't, but it's. It's scary. And they just want, you know, know people to call them up and then. Okay, yeah, you can take care of that. You can pay your mortgage. Stay right here on the phone. Give us your phone number.

[Al Jackson]

It's. It's a. I just. Didn't you guys all think that there was, like, some bureau that would, like, give you your money back? It's like, there isn't.

[Chick McGee]

No.

[Al Jackson]

You. Like, I really thought maybe I just watched Law and Order too much. I thought there would be like, well, here we'll.

[Chick McGee]

What happened to the money back bureau?

[Tom Griswold]

Zero justice.

[Al Jackson]

We did, like, the last season of dbl. We did. I'll never forget this thing we did. A whole week of just people being scammed. Whether it was a voice scam or sound like Josh saying, christy, I need money. Like, there was that one. And they got this teacher. It was her last month before she retired, and it was a fake title D company, and she sent them $279,000 for her down payment in her Key west dream home. And she said she told her daughter, and her daughter was like, they would never ask you to send. And she said her daughter just like fell apart because she knew. And I thought because we were interviewing, I was like, and then what happened?

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat Godwin]

How do you do that?

[Al Jackson]

Ed McMahon show up with a check and they're like, and then now I live with my daughter. Like, it was just like. There is no. I thought there was like a recouping or something.

[Christy Lee]

Well, you can try to sue to get your money back, I guess. Who has the money for that?

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

And who are you going to sue?

[Bob Kevoian]

This would be a very bad Hallmark.

[Al Jackson]

It just ends.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. There's some guy, they repossess the Christmas tree farm.

[Al Jackson]

Just some guy shrugging his shoulders. I don't know what you want me to tell you.

[Bob Kevoian]

The guy drives off on his Porsche that he just paid for with you. Okay, we're making some progress here.

[Chick McGee]

We're doing good work.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, this is, this is happening. We were talking about great, great holiday, holiday gifts. And we got a nice letter from a gentleman who's been taking advantage of some of the great stuff that we've been talking about, including Steven Singer Jewelers. Christy Lee, tell me more.

[Christy Lee]

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[Bob Kevoian]

Nice letter from Anthony who said he's already finished his Christmas shopping, buying all his friends Omaha steaks and Raycon earbuds. And then he goes at the end. P.S. sorry to bother you at work. I'll see all you guys at Ravioli night at Steven Singer's place.

[Chick McGee]

Yes, sir.

[Bob Kevoian]

Thank you very much. Thursday nights. Stephen Singer in actuality doesn't do it. Thank you very much. Coming up, always one of our favorites, Jeff Oskay on his way to Lima, Ohio with Josh and Pat Godwin at the, you know, event Center Saturday night only Mr. Oskay is going to come back with his presentation of news we failed to mention from here, the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios, where this is the Bob and Tom Show.

[Chick McGee]

For a complete copy of the Bob.

[Bob Kevoian]

And Tom show contest rules, go to bobandtom.com contest rules or just scroll down.

[Chick McGee]

To the bottom of the page and see contest rules. This is the Bob and Tom Show. Welcome back to the Bob and Tom Show. We're in the O'Reilly Auto Parts studios. Think O'Reilly Auto Parts. For all your car care needs. Get the parts and service you need fast from the professional parts people at O'Reilly Auto Parts. There's Christy Lee.

[Christy Lee]

Hi, Chick.

[Chick McGee]

There's Pat Godwin. Hello. There's Josh Arnold. Hi, Ace Cosby.

[Chris Francis]

Hey, Chick.

[Chick McGee]

I am Chick and Tom, our special legendary Bob and Tom comedian is here.

[Bob Kevoian]

Joining us, the studio comedian Al Jackson on his way to Mahomet, Illinois, tonight only at Yellow and company. And I believe we're going to hook up with another, another guest, if I'm not mistaken. We go via satellite to the black screen over there, which is remaining black. Okay, good.

[Tom Griswold]

Our producer was being bothered by our general man.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, very good.

[Tom Griswold]

There you go.

[Bob Kevoian]

There we go. It's Jeff Oskay. Hey, Jeff, what's going on?

[Jeff Oskay]

Hey, how are you guys doing? I'm coming to you from the failed dimension news desk. I, I'm gonna do a little something different. I hope you guys will humor me. Instead of the normal failed dimension news, I have a failed dimension news rant.

[Tom Griswold]

What's on your mind, buddy?

[Chick McGee]

Here's Jeff Oskay with failed to mention new rant.

[Jeff Oskay]

Thanks, Josh. Last week you guys were talking about road rage. What you failed to mention road rage is running rampant. People out there behind the wheel have lost their minds. Sadly, I'm just as guilty as the next. I'm already a bit intense, but get me behind the wheel of a car, I start hating Americans. Like my first name was Al and my last name was Kata. Every time I see a coexist bumper sticker, I want a road rage. The coexist bumper stickers, you know, the ones where they use religious symbols like a cross, a star of David, and for some reason a peace sign to spell out the word coexist Every time I see one, it takes every ounce of composure and self restraint for me not to run. Jane and her sun faded Subaru Outback right into a guardrail. The only reason I don't. I don't want to hurt her. Rescue collie in the backseat. I don't know. Maybe we'd all coexist a little better if you were actually doing the speed limit. Jane. I'm assuming that's your name. Jane. Or Kate or Meadow. Every time the driver, some skinny white woman with unkempt gray hair, she's on her way to harvest local honey or protest conditions at a submarine sandwich shop. I used to just road rage on Coexist and BMW drivers. I thought they were the biggest jerks on the road. Don't worry, Tom and Chick. You've been replaced by gigantic pickup trucks. Man, you guys are something else. My favorite, the ones with the oversized rims and low profile tires. You are a special kind of stupid. You can't take your truck off road. You can barely take it to Costco. What I hate the Most. I'm doing 80 in the fast lane. I hear the sound of an F18 coming up behind me. I look in my rearview mirror, all I see is a senior frog's license plate holder taking up my entire back window. And I realize I'm talking about half of our listeners right now. I don't even care. This has to be said. Listen, we're all impressed by your truck that costs more than my house and has more square footage than my house, actually. So put your monster energy drink back in the cup holder, pop in a Zen and chill, bro. Just know as you pass me and roll coal, I'm saying a little prayer that your engine blows up on the way home. The real cause of road rage, though, let's be honest. Construction. Hey, I got an idea. Let's pass a new law. You can't start more road construction till you finish the other job first. Our city planners apparently take helicopters or work from home because they sure don't drive around this city. Not sure if you guys realize that making a 10 mile drive take over an hour tends to get people a bit heated. And while we're at it, instead of adding one lane, go ahead, add five lanes while you're there. That way you aren't back here three years from now causing another traffic jam just to add another single lane.

[Chick McGee]

Hear, hear.

[Jeff Oskay]

So you take the constant construction, the big Tonka trucks, the people texting the last minute mergers, the constant construction, the coexist, the people who pass on the right rocks hitting and cracking your windshield because some landscape company's truck didn't secure their load properly on the highway last week. And then the owner doesn't even apologize when you contact him. Instead, he calls me arrogant. I'm arrogant. At least I know how to secure a load of gravel properly on my truck. Maybe if you weren't so lazy and arrogant and trained your employees properly, I wouldn't have a cracked windshield on my car today. I'm Jeff Oskay, and this was the news I failed to road rage about.

[Al Jackson]

All right.

[Bob Kevoian]

Thank you, Jeff. Nice.

[Christy Lee]

Can we add people who don't use their turn signals and run red lights to that list? God.

[Bob Kevoian]

There should be a law. If they've rebuilt a highway, they can't come back for five years. Yeah, I totally get that one. Now, let's squeeze in a little bit of history, shall we? On a different note, we have time. Al, I know you're a student of history.

[Al Jackson]

I am.

[Bob Kevoian]

I think you'll enjoy this. Perhaps we'll start with something exciting. 1732.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Mr. Lewis. Timothy, 1732, was hired as the first professional librarian in Philadelphia.

[Chick McGee]

A before Timothy, there books were laying everywhere.

[Bob Kevoian]

He coined the phrase sh.

[Chris Francis]

That's his.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, like he came up with that. Now, Josh will know this one.

[Tom Griswold]

Yes, I will.

[Bob Kevoian]

In 1851, this was. Herman Melville published Moby Dick.

[Tom Griswold]

Now, remember the rest of the title?

[Bob Kevoian]

The Great Whale?

[Tom Griswold]

No, just the whale.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, the whale.

[Chick McGee]

Sorry.

[Bob Kevoian]

Moby Dick was not a hit.

[Tom Griswold]

Really?

[Bob Kevoian]

It's not a hit until the 1920s, apparently.

[Tom Griswold]

How about that?

[Al Jackson]

It was like Shawshank. Shawshank bobbed at the box office.

[Tom Griswold]

That's right.

[Christy Lee]

I just saw for the first time him two weeks ago.

[Chick McGee]

Did you cry?

[Chris Francis]

Really?

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, sure.

[Chick McGee]

You cried. Yeah, yeah.

[Al Jackson]

Do you not have tnt?

[Christy Lee]

I don't know.

[Bob Kevoian]

I remember the name of the boat.

[Christy Lee]

Are we back to. No. Moby Dick.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, weird name. Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Kiki.

[Bob Kevoian]

I was peeking. Or Peakwood or something.

[Chick McGee]

No, no one's taking me serious.

[Bob Kevoian]

1882, Franklin Leslie killed.

[Chick McGee]

Who?

[Bob Kevoian]

In Tombstone, Arizona. Billy the Kid.

[Tom Griswold]

He was only nine.

[Bob Kevoian]

Which came first, the pizza place or Billy the Kid, the town?

[Jeff Oskay]

What?

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, you mean Tombstone. You think Tombstone's a brick and mortar pizza shop, don't you?

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

They should. They should at least have one there.

[Tom Griswold]

Don't you think they should?

[Chick McGee]

Would you? You would you?

[Christy Lee]

I love going to.

[Chick McGee]

Crossed your. Cross your mind to put a frozen pizza in the oven and eat it for dinner?

[Bob Kevoian]

I used to eat the.

[Christy Lee]

I don't see you French bread crust.

[Bob Kevoian]

No, the Red Baron.

[Christy Lee]

Red Baron.

[Bob Kevoian]

Red Barons. Those are good. Those little red barons.

[Chick McGee]

Not DiGiornos. You don't.

[Bob Kevoian]

I don't I don't eat much pizza anyway anymore.

[Chick McGee]

All right.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, God.

[Bob Kevoian]

The digiornos were very, very.

[Christy Lee]

You know, that's no way to live. Have a pizza.

[Chick McGee]

No way to live. Boy.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, how you can appreciate this. We did, we did make your own pizzas the other night.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

So the way this works, Al, you go to Trader Joe's, they have the best pre made pizza dough. Then you get the rest of the ingredients and you spend 80 bucks to make a pizza you could buy for 12 bucks at the best pizza place in town.

[Chick McGee]

Okay.

[Bob Kevoian]

But it's about, it's about the journey.

[Christy Lee]

Did you eat some of the kids pizza because they went all that trouble to make you a pizza?

[Bob Kevoian]

No, they ate it all. I had some scrambled eggs.

[Al Jackson]

I don't want anything little kids made. I'm sorry.

[Bob Kevoian]

They're very good. Happy birthday, King Charles, born in 1948. I like to call him the royal formerly known as Prince. In honor of the. Never mind.

[Chick McGee]

That should be Andrew. I thought that was Andrew. He was a. Formerly a print. What?

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, Prince Charles was Prince Charles, King Charles.

[Chick McGee]

But now Andrew's also formally.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's true.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah, that's true.

[Bob Kevoian]

Right now we're going to take a quick break because we have a special surprise. Is that correct? Oh, that's cool. We are coming to you from the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios. This is the Bob and Tom Show.

[Chick McGee]

Hey, thanks for listening this morning.

[Bob Kevoian]

Got something to say, send it an email.

[Chick McGee]

Bob and Tom. Bob and Tom dot com. Hey, welcome back to the Bob and Tom Show.

[Christy Lee]

Hello, hello, hello.

[Chick McGee]

We're in the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios. Christy Lee at the Silac Insurance news desk, there's Pat Godwin. Hello, Josh Arnold. Hi, Ace Cosby. Hey, I'm Chick mcgee at the Prize Pick sports desk. Tom, we have a guest in the studio and some sort of surprise brewing.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'm very excited. We have comedian Al Jack joining us and we were talking about this guy just a couple weeks ago. We had no idea that we were gonna be able to talk to him in person. He is Chris Francis, a custom shoe designer in Hollywood. Hey, Chris, can you hear me okay?

[Chris Francis]

Hey, I can hear you fine. Good morning, Tom. Good morning, Bob and Tom Show.

[Christy Lee]

Hello.

[Chris Francis]

Thank you.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now, Chris, you're standing in front of a whole bunch of boxes and can you explain what's in the box?

[Chris Francis]

Correct.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Chris Francis]

So what's in the boxes are shoe forms and patterns. All the designs for all of these Hollywood stars and rock stars, casino owners and they were made by Pasquale Di fabricio the late Pasquale di Fabricio. And he was known as the shoemaker to the stars. And he made for over a thousand movies. I mean, he made for everybody. Dean Martin would order about 40 pairs of shoes a year.

[Al Jackson]

Wow.

[Chris Francis]

Frank said everybody. Johnny Cash. So, you know, there's so many names here, it's just unbelievable. And this is only a fraction of the collection.

[Bob Kevoian]

And it made the news a couple weeks ago because apparently in some of those boxes you have, are they hand carved molds of the feet? The feet of the stars? Am I getting this right? Right?

[Chris Francis]

They are. They're hand carved because every time you make a custom shoe, part of the process is measuring the actual client. So every shoe is made to measure. And we build up as shoemakers. We build up these wooden forms with leather so you can see. So, you know, this is one. One of my customers, actually early customers, but, you know, I'll add leather right here for to. To accommodate a measurement for comfort. So after made, they get stored in the boxes and filed away in case that customer ever comes back. All the hard work's done.

[Bob Kevoian]

So do you have. What do you do with the clients that are now deceased? Do you preserve their wooden feet?

[Chris Francis]

Yeah, everything's preserved. It's like a mausoleum in here. And unfortunately, people keep passing away, which. Which is terribly sad. So in the work you see in this room is all, you know, the work of the late Pasquale Di Fabrizio. I have another room of my own with names all over the place, but a lot of times I can't film in there. But, yeah, everything just gets saved. And all of this was in a backyard in Glendale, California.

[Bob Kevoian]

So are you now the curator?

[Chris Francis]

I'm the curator now.

[Bob Kevoian]

Are you also a cobbler? Is that the proper term?

[Chris Francis]

Yeah, yeah, you could call me that. Rock and roll cobbler, I guess.

[Bob Kevoian]

Are you wearing really cool boots right now?

[Chris Francis]

I just made here platform boots.

[Hugh Jackman]

Wow.

[Chris Francis]

So I'm still keeping it going, you know, and it's a dying art. It's a dying art, but we're not letting it go. So it's still happening here in Hollywood, still making stuff for stage. And I want to say I grew up in Kokomo, Indiana, listening to the Bob and Tom show on 290.

[Bob Kevoian]

Right, good for you. Now, Christie's got a question. Once again, we're speaking with shoemaker Chris Francis. Christy.

[Christy Lee]

Chris, I was just wondering, do you actually whittle, if you will, these shoe molds or how are they made out of wood like that?

[Chris Francis]

You know, they're Hand carved. So I'm not.

[Chick McGee]

Not.

[Chris Francis]

I'm not whittling so much with a knife, like, probably like in the old days. I'm using a sander.

[Christy Lee]

Okay.

[Chris Francis]

Form these to make the process a little quicker.

[Christy Lee]

Gotcha. Okay, cool.

[Al Jackson]

I wanted to ask, do you have, like, die hard crazy fans that say, I want my favorite artist? Like, I want princess shoes made so I can display them in my home?

[Chris Francis]

I do. And I. I've made some. You know, I used to make princess guitar player shoes, but I tend to not do that. I keep the actual pair for that performer, and I won't remake it.

[Chick McGee]

Wow.

[Chris Francis]

So I make somebody something inspired by it, but I'll. I'll protect that original design and no one else can really have it.

[Bob Kevoian]

Do you have cool shoes on right now? You have a set of your own shoes on your own feet.

[Chris Francis]

I don't have my own shoes on when it comes to my turn. I don't. I'm like, forget about it.

[Al Jackson]

I have a lot of my friends that are chefs. They never make food for themselves. They don't. They eat terribly. Chefs just cook for other people. It's very. You're just like a great chef. Like, you don't cook for yourself, you cook for others.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

How did you happen to get into the shoe carving and shoe manufacturing and cobbler business?

[Chris Francis]

Yeah, you know, I started. I bought a sewing machine. It was just a simple home sewing machine. I was making clothing and I got noticed by a stylist, and I started making leather jackets. And so I started making so jackets like this. So I made the first one of these for Arnel Pineda from Journey. And then that was the first time I'd seen my work up on a stage. And after that, you know, I started making for their friends and. And all these other rock and roll bands. So I was making clothing first, and then I started making shoes in the kitchen, mainly because I wanted platform boots.

[Tom Griswold]

Were you.

[Bob Kevoian]

Were you a KISS fan?

[Chris Francis]

Of course.

[Bob Kevoian]

Always been a KISS fan because those are some of the most famous boots out there.

[Christy Lee]

Look at those boots.

[Bob Kevoian]

We're looking at like a 10 inch heel on that. Well, that'd be hard to walk in, not to play guitar in.

[Al Jackson]

Those jackets are rad.

[Christy Lee]

Those jackets are really cool.

[Chick McGee]

Wow.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, I know that according to the news article, there are the feet, if you will, of Elizabeth Taylor and Harrison Ford, Liza Minnelli, all in your collection. And apparently Ace Fraley is right here.

[Chris Francis]

We got Ace right here.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, there we go. He's grabbing a shoe box and we're about to look at the Ace Fraley shoes. Oh, there you go.

[Tom Griswold]

What celebrity has the biggest feet?

[Bob Kevoian]

Good question.

[Tom Griswold]

That you have.

[Chris Francis]

Look at the drawing. Oh, yeah, the original drawing. Look at the original shoe of them being made in the shop. You know, back in the.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Once again, we're talking with shoemaker Chris Francis. Josh wanted to know what celeb has the biggest feat.

[Chris Francis]

The biggest feat. That's a really good question. It would probably be one of. One of the sports guys, probably one of the basketball players.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

[Chris Francis]

I think had really. He had a really large foot. That's a good question, though.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, we're going to let you go, Chris. Really cool stuff. Have you ever done like a, like an art gallery display where you had, you know, whatever, all the famous feet? I think it'd be pretty funny.

[Chris Francis]

I've shown in several museums, so solo exhibitions of my own art. And then we put some of these in a muse in a. In a gallery not too long ago, so more shows are in the works.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, cool.

[Al Jackson]

It feels like it needs to be at the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Hey, thank you.

[Chris Francis]

Thanks for having me.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, thanks very much, Chris. Well, we. Good luck with the feet and the shoes as well. Thank you very much.

[Chris Francis]

Thank you. You guys keep rocking.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, thank you. That's nice.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, he did a really cool show way back in 2019 at SCAD and down in Savannah. And a lot of his shoes are art pieces rather than just being rock and roll or, you know, in the movies. A lot of his shoes are actual art pieces. They're pretty cool if you want to look them up.

[Al Jackson]

My son did a summer program at this summer.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, did he really? Yeah, It's a great school.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, cool. Now, coming up, there's a potential for something a little bizarre happening on this program. I can't tell you what that is. We do have time for another quick news story from Christy Lee at the SILAC Insurance news desk.

[Christy Lee]

Let's see, how about this one? At the cost of some $560,000, a man has had repeated hyaluronic acid injections to create artificial eight pack abs.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, man.

[Christy Lee]

According.

[Tom Griswold]

I'm sorry, no, we talked a little bit about how that was gonna start a few months ago. This is crazy.

[Chris Francis]

I don't know.

[Bob Kevoian]

How does that work?

[Christy Lee]

According to the South China Morning Post, the content creator, who I know you love by that title, goes by Andy How Tianan and claims that he's a square 20% of his body now contains hyaluronic Acid. After receiving injections to his shoulder, collarbones, chest and abdomen, he reportedly plans to inject Josh a total of 10,000 doses and has already achieved 40% of his goal. Mr. Tianen claims the cosmetic procedure to achieve the appearance of a muscular physiques has made him the first such case in China.

[Bob Kevoian]

So he doesn't actually have the abs, just. It's just this kind of down there eating it.

[Tom Griswold]

Eating his body into that form.

[Bob Kevoian]

What?

[Al Jackson]

I worked in labs. Hyaluronic acid is very dangerous.

[Chick McGee]

Caustic with a capital K. How does he inject it?

[Bob Kevoian]

There we go. See that? They look real.

[Tom Griswold]

I don't know. The one on the left doesn't. It looks so fake.

[Christy Lee]

Well, and he is really fake.

[Tom Griswold]

Everything about him is fake. I hate him.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah, yeah. And by the way, let's talk about that shirt. What an ugly shirt, huh?

[Christy Lee]

It's a nice shirt.

[Chick McGee]

I don't know.

[Al Jackson]

I think he's one of those people because there's almost like it's their. Almost their own type of people that want to look like dolls.

[Tom Griswold]

Exactly, exactly.

[Al Jackson]

He's like a doll man.

[Bob Kevoian]

His face. His face has been erased.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, there's a lot of filtering.

[Bob Kevoian]

And you said he spent how much?

[Christy Lee]

$560,000.

[Bob Kevoian]

He could pretty much hire a trainer, don't you think?

[Chick McGee]

The.

[Bob Kevoian]

Some weights, do some sit ups.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, because he's not a fat guy.

[Chick McGee]

The picture on the left is probably especially looks like that. You can use shading and things.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

To make it look like you have abs.

[Tom Griswold]

But he's.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah, no, he's especially a little skinny.

[Bob Kevoian]

Real mental issue.

[Al Jackson]

Where did he get a half a million dollars to do this?

[Christy Lee]

I don't know.

[Bob Kevoian]

He's a. What is content influencer.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, I think he's got some sponsors. Leave it at that.

[Bob Kevoian]

His male member looks like Popeye's arm.

[Tom Griswold]

Boy, that's something.

[Chris Francis]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

How'd you like to inject that?

[Chick McGee]

Don't you think somebody's having him gone to grow plastic surgery? So they look. He looks exactly like them.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Thank you very much. What's coming up over there at the silent coming up.

[Christy Lee]

People would rather see blank than have sex.

[Bob Kevoian]

See?

[Tom Griswold]

Okay, interesting.

[Bob Kevoian]

We got a nice letter from Anthony. He's finished his Christmas shopping. He's already bought Omaha steaks and Raycon earbuds. How do you do that again, Chip Raycon.

[Chick McGee]

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[Bob Kevoian]

O P E N thank you very much. Chick Magee. Al Jackson tonight, Mahomet, Illinois at Yellow and company and then tomorrow evening the big show in Lima, Ohio with Jeff Oskay who just did a great performance for us. Josh Arnold and Pat Godwin, Lima, Ohio at the famous UNOH Event Center. You know, you know, you know, we don't mess around. Thank you very much. These are the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios. This is the Bob and Tom Show.

[Christy Lee]

We will.

[Al Jackson]

That's what I tell my kids when I was just late. I'm like, I'm working on something big, guys.

[Bob Kevoian]

That's right.

[Al Jackson]

Tight, tight.

[Chick McGee]

Hey, welcome back to the Bob and Tom Show. We're in the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios at the Silac Insurance news desk. It's Christy Lee.

[Christy Lee]

Hi.

[Chick McGee]

There's Pat Godwin.

[Pat Godwin]

Hello.

[Chick McGee]

Al Jackson is here. There's Josh arm.

[Bob Kevoian]

Hello.

[Chick McGee]

Ace Cosby. Hey, I'm Chick McGee and hello, Tom.

[Bob Kevoian]

Hello, Chick McGee. Did you have a nickname in high school?

[Al Jackson]

Alvin. A lot of my friends still call me Alvin because when I transfer high schools, some guys thought that that was my name and they didn't find out till three or four years later that it was Albert. And by then it was too late.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

And I've been Alvin ever since.

[Chick McGee]

I got a couple of friends. I have always called this guy Donald and you know, but his name is Donald. But everybody Calls him Don now. And I have a guy's name, Billy. That's when I called him when we were kids, Billy. And he's, you know, he's. I don't know. 63280 can bench press a truck. Hey, Billy, what's going on? But it's just how we do.

[Bob Kevoian]

We are going to move forward. Here we have Christy Lee. She is ensconced over there in that area, the news area. And we call it the SILAC Insurance news desk. What's happening?

[Christy Lee]

A new Live Nation survey reveals what people would give up to go to a concert. 40,000 people polled across 15 countries. And the results? 70% of people would rather see an artist in concert live than have seen sex.

[Al Jackson]

I believe that.

[Christy Lee]

Boy, it have to be somebody pretty good.

[Chick McGee]

That's either got to be a really great concert or they're not having the right sex.

[Christy Lee]

Right, Right.

[Chick McGee]

Am I wrong to think that.

[Pat Godwin]

You're not wrong.

[Christy Lee]

You're not wrong.

[Tom Griswold]

I don't know. I mean, it's.

[Chick McGee]

But. But I'm not the guy that you would talk to. To for live music. I mean, it's.

[Christy Lee]

Well, we've seen so much live music.

[Tom Griswold]

Let's say you are in a married. In a marriage and you have sex three times a week.

[Christy Lee]

What marriage is.

[Tom Griswold]

Why wouldn't you.

[Chick McGee]

Hang on a second.

[Bob Kevoian]

Let's just go around the hall.

[Chick McGee]

Have you ever put up those kind of numbers?

[Tom Griswold]

Are those unrealistic numbers for most marriages?

[Chick McGee]

Oh, no. Incredibly, incredibly high.

[Tom Griswold]

Yes.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

That's shocking.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

But then again, at the concert, you gotta park, gotta walk in, you gotta wait, you gotta answer the question, are you ready to rock? If you're having any at a concert, you do. There's a possibility of getting a cool T shirt.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Which I don't think you're gonna get after. After a good night of sex. Al, have you ever gotten a T shirt after a good night of sex?

[Chick McGee]

No.

[Al Jackson]

Well, unless you actually grabbed the wrong one. No, I could definitely see the concert just because it's the exclusivity of just like. I don't know, like when I went to go see Diana Ross, I was like, I don't know when I'm gonna be able to see the diva again.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, of course. But you know when you'll have sex, you know that you'll have sex.

[Al Jackson]

Right. So it's like there's a. Sex is up against something very difficult.

[Chick McGee]

You hear what Josh said? You know, you're gonna have sex. Sex again. That's cute. Sex.

[Bob Kevoian]

Sex is sex. Is also kind of like a concert in there. It's a lot better if you get a backstage pass.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

Oh, I know what you're talking about. Hey, honey, you want to try to go backstage tonight?

[Christy Lee]

Nearly 40.

[Al Jackson]

Only if your friend can come. Oh, well.

[Christy Lee]

Nearly 40% would choose live music over any other form of entertainment if they could only pick one for life, ranking above movies and sports.

[Chick McGee]

What about ventriloquism?

[Tom Griswold]

Is that in there at all?

[Christy Lee]

Yes, I think that would.

[Tom Griswold]

You know what? It goes without saying that everybody would pick ventriloquism.

[Chick McGee]

Thank you. That would say.

[Al Jackson]

Would you guys ever go hear a poet?

[Tom Griswold]

I have. Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

I have not. So I don't.

[Chick McGee]

The only way I would go to see a poetry slam is if I.

[Christy Lee]

Sex was really guaranteed to have sex.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah. I have gone to poetry slams and I have gone to hear single poets because they had a new book out.

[Bob Kevoian]

Did they have. They have bongos?

[Tom Griswold]

No, no. These were legit, really good poets.

[Bob Kevoian]

No bongos.

[Tom Griswold]

Okay.

[Al Jackson]

I feel like that's a great place to meet women, too, because you already got something in common.

[Tom Griswold]

I didn't. I'll just say that. Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

In the. In the course of acting sensitive, as I'm assuming you were doing at this poetry reading.

[Tom Griswold]

I don't have to act sensitive. I'm very sensitive.

[Chick McGee]

And how close did you. You come to. To cracking and. And giving up the actual feel?

[Tom Griswold]

Thankfully, these poets like the ones that I. I went to see them knowing that I liked them and that they were good.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now, when. When they were done, do you hold up a lighter or your cell phone with the lighter?

[Chick McGee]

I think everybody does the cell phone.

[Bob Kevoian]

Now, even for poets, no candle.

[Chick McGee]

Well, you know, the cell phone has.

[Tom Griswold]

You don't want to talk about this. Seriously.

[Pat Godwin]

I'm just talking about this.

[Christy Lee]

85% of fans said music defines who they are, and 85% said live experiences give them, quote, the most life.

[Tom Griswold]

I get this I go to sometimes. I'm like, I don't feel like going to a concert. And I go. And during it, I go. This is all I want to do for the rest of my life.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

Is just go to concerts because you're.

[Christy Lee]

Having such a great time.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

Nearly 60% of fans travel for shows yearly. I just did that two weeks ago. So I can understand that. You went to Clearwater, Florida, to see Peter Frampton. Probably the last time I'll see him live. I don't know. Who knows?

[Bob Kevoian]

Because, you know, he's got some medical issues. May not be too.

[Christy Lee]

No, I think I'm a Stalker.

[Chick McGee]

And it got worse.

[Christy Lee]

No, I think I'm a stalker. And I don't want him to think.

[Tom Griswold]

That I didn't know what you meant at first.

[Bob Kevoian]

I've done that a lot. Leaving us because I can. I can really only go to concerts on a Friday or Saturday because of the nature of this job. So if my favorite band isn't coming, I'll go.

[Christy Lee]

Right.

[Bob Kevoian]

I've been to Dallas, New York, Louisiana, I just.

[Al Jackson]

But isn't that part of it though? Because whether it's like for people that travel and follow a football team around or a band, it's its own kind of subculture and you get it. And it's like, I'm sure there are people that also go to see a lot of Peter Frampton and you recognize them and you talk to them. You have your own community. So I could definitely see like that's like your window into your youth.

[Tom Griswold]

People who travel for bands are like people who move to LA real rich or super poor.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, that's a great point. That's a great point.

[Tom Griswold]

The only way to do it.

[Al Jackson]

Well, I think you gotta kinda in the middle. Well, you gotta stop at some point. Well, I think it's the difference between whether if you follow one band, that band gets older along with you.

[Christy Lee]

Right.

[Al Jackson]

So that demo gets older.

[Christy Lee]

Right.

[Al Jackson]

If you just go see edm, the bands will come and go, but you're just going to see that genre. So eventually you're going to be like a 39 year old and there's going to be like a 20 year old next to you at the concert.

[Christy Lee]

It's going to be weird.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah, it's going to be weird. So if you're going to follow a band, it's cool because you're going to age along with them. If you. That makes sense.

[Christy Lee]

95% of the people pulled by Live Nation tend shows because they crave real experiences over virtual ones. That's kind of. That lifts my heart a bit. Yeah, people really want to see live. Well, we were just talking about that with Billy Gardell yesterday. You know, by just getting out there and putting your phones down and enjoying the show. 80% would rather spend money on experiences than an objects or things. We've kind. I think as you get older, you get more like that too.

[Bob Kevoian]

Huh, huh. Now speaking of that, Ohio tomorrow. Yes, Lima. It's going to be the live experience of Jeff, Oscar, Josh Arnold and Pat Godwin at the UNHO Event Center.

[Pat Godwin]

Unoh.

[Bob Kevoian]

Unoh and. Or you know, what do they call.

[Tom Griswold]

They call the Unoh.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. Okay. Josh will have a better attitude by the time he gets on stage. Well, getting mad at me for pronouncing.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah, I didn't realize I had. I didn't particularly care for the 9 o' clock break, but other than that, clearly.

[Bob Kevoian]

But clearly they're still being pissy. That's. That's live.

[Al Jackson]

How is this not happening in a car?

[Bob Kevoian]

Whereas. Whereas the married couples fight, tonight is Mahomet, Illinois and Al Jackson at the Yellow and Company. There we go. Some live experiences you can experience.

[Al Jackson]

You got to be there, Doug. You got to leave. Leave your house and go. That's how you met your wife. You gotta go have some fun. Get out there and shake it.

[Chick McGee]

Shake it.

[Al Jackson]

Get off the phone.

[Chick McGee]

Shake from and go.

[Christy Lee]

Americans are reportedly falling out of love with the so called slop bowl. And this is the first time I've ever heard this term in my life.

[Pat Godwin]

It's perfect though, right?

[Christy Lee]

The slop bowl. Have you heard this?

[Tom Griswold]

Slip bowl?

[Chick McGee]

Why not?

[Bob Kevoian]

This is like the thing at Chipotle. What do they call it?

[Christy Lee]

It refers to the hodgepodge of ingredients ranging from proteins to toppings like red chimchurri that are tossed in a bowl and sold. Sold at select fast casual chain restaurants like Cava, Chipotle, Sweet Green, whatever. They all are reported slumping sales as cash strapped consumers, typically those between 25 to 35, forgo pricey food bowls that can cost as much as 20 bucks.

[Bob Kevoian]

Ah, I just bought two of those last night for my girls.

[Chick McGee]

At Chipotle, you start picking up extras.

[Bob Kevoian]

Rice and beans. They're very bean heavy, by the way.

[Christy Lee]

Well, you can say no.

[Pat Godwin]

You can tell them.

[Bob Kevoian]

No, no, no. They like them. I'm just saying there's a gas issue.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah, that's got to be adorable.

[Bob Kevoian]

So this is saying that, that, that particular, that particular menu item is the.

[Christy Lee]

One that's falling off because it's so pricey right now.

[Al Jackson]

So the slop bowls are like, you.

[Christy Lee]

Can'T go get it. Yeah, like, you can't go to McDonald's and get the McRib. I don't know what it's costing, but it's not 20 bucks.

[Chick McGee]

This slop bowl thing, though, is a, that's a, a term that that industry uses that we aren't really aware of.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, I'd never heard it.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah, I'd never heard it till just now. It's. This is a CNN story, but I. Have you heard that?

[Al Jackson]

So they just throw the leftover ingredients in there and just like make a bowl?

[Christy Lee]

No, no.

[Tom Griswold]

What they're calling. If you go get a bowl of chipotle, they're calling it a slop.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's a buffet.

[Chick McGee]

Those are all tastes.

[Bob Kevoian]

Do you want brown rice or white rice? Do you want beans? Black bean? There's a whole. Then it comes in a recyclable. What? Bowl. Bowl.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah. Hey. A new poll also reveals how much food impacts people's vacations.

[Tom Griswold]

All right, talk.

[Christy Lee]

A research survey of 2,000Americans found one out of five have planned a trip solely for the food. Have you done that? No, I haven't. Well, no, no, I think Jason's done that.

[Al Jackson]

I would say New Orleans for me because I don't drink. I'm like, when I land in New Orleans, I'm like, I'm gonna eat my way through the city.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

Let's go right now. Beignets. Let's start. Yeah.

[Christy Lee]

Charleston's kind of like that.

[Al Jackson]

Charleston, absolutely.

[Christy Lee]

45% of Gen Zers and 30% of millennials have taken a so called food cation compared to 20% of Gen Xers and just 1 in 10 baby boomers.

[Chick McGee]

Did you hear what Christy said? She's using one of those great words words. Foodcation.

[Pat Godwin]

Oh, slop bowl on food. Foodcation.

[Christy Lee]

Those who answered the survey would be willing to spend almost $2,000 if it meant they could eat something that's been on their list of foods to try. For example, sushi in Tokyo, Korea and Mumbai. The top locations Americans would travel to specifically to experience the food were Philadelphia for Philly cheesesteak.

[Al Jackson]

Fantastic.

[Christy Lee]

New York City for New York style pizza. Missouri and Kansas for Kansas City barbecue.

[Al Jackson]

I would go to South Carolina.

[Christy Lee]

I would too. Chicago for deep dish pizza and Central Texas for their Texas barbecue.

[Bob Kevoian]

So these people are planning their vacation specifically for the food.

[Christy Lee]

Exactly.

[Al Jackson]

When I worked for Carnival, I talked to a lot of passengers and they were like, we're on here for the food.

[Chick McGee]

Huh?

[Al Jackson]

Like, absolutely. They would do, they wouldn't do the excursions. They might get off on an island, but they were there to eat.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Al Jackson]

These are from this, from their mouths.

[Chick McGee]

Now when you're talking to them, did you notice they might, might have been a little overweight?

[Al Jackson]

I didn't notice that. I'm not letting you walk me into that.

[Pat Godwin]

I mean, are they attractive people?

[Bob Kevoian]

You can, you can bluff your way through this. If you, if you say you're going to New York or Chicago, you can say, I'm going for the culture. If you go to Kansas City, you're going for the food.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah. Or the chiefs.

[Chick McGee]

Well, yeah, I guess.

[Pat Godwin]

I mean, and the crazy little coming.

[Chick McGee]

You said you were going to get you one.

[Bob Kevoian]

Remember that?

[Al Jackson]

Kansas City's a fun town, man. Don't sleep.

[Christy Lee]

Two thirds said they were more adventurous eaters when they were away from home.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay, right now I want to talk a little bit about the NFL. What's going on over there?

[Chick McGee]

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[Bob Kevoian]

Something's happening. I can't tell you what it is. It may or may not happen. It's pretty cool if it does. We are in the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studio. This is the Bob and Tom Show. Hey, thanks for listening to the Bob and Tom show this morning.

[Chick McGee]

Get a look at today's show on our YouTube channel. Hey, welcome back to the Bob and Tom Show.

[Tom Griswold]

I simply.

[Chris Francis]

Okay.

[Tom Griswold]

Don't understand.

[Chick McGee]

About time. Hugh Jackman. Got it.

[Pat Godwin]

Man.

[Hugh Jackman]

I just can't believe this is p.

[Pat Godwin]

A lot of people in here, man.

[Christy Lee]

Oh, yeah. Can't believe your surprise actually paid off.

[Chick McGee]

Hi, Hugh. I'm Chick. Like chicken.

[Christy Lee]

How are you?

[Hugh Jackman]

G', day, Chick. You call me Jacko then.

[Chick McGee]

If we.

[Hugh Jackman]

If we're doing nicknames. Jacko.

[Chick McGee]

And this is Ace.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yes, Tom the man. You should recognize me. I flew to New York City and saw you and Sutton Foster on Broadway in the Music. Man.

[Hugh Jackman]

I remember seeing you in the music.

[Tom Griswold]

Excellent.

[Bob Kevoian]

And you screwed up one of the songs.

[Chick McGee]

And sudden I. I was.

[Bob Kevoian]

We had Pretty good seats. And Sutton walks over and elbows you right in the thing. You're done, Harold Hill. And you screw it up. And I can see her going, nice. That was a great show, man. That was so awesome. I. I literally flew to New York just to see you.

[Hugh Jackman]

Thanks. And thanks for heckling through the whole thing.

[Tom Griswold]

He can't help himself.

[Chick McGee]

Why are you in here?

[Bob Kevoian]

I can't believe this. Oh, my God.

[Chick McGee]

Why am I.

[Hugh Jackman]

Well, let me say hi to everyone else.

[Tom Griswold]

Hey, Josh, how are you?

[Hugh Jackman]

Hey, Josh.

[Christy Lee]

I'm Christy.

[Hugh Jackman]

Christy, I'm Patty G. Patty G. And you play?

[Pat Godwin]

Yeah, Come and play if you'd like.

[Hugh Jackman]

Well, you're gonna see how bad I am. But I did learn from the movie. But I'm here. Well, a bunch of reasons. I just got off a plane. I've got a movie coming out on Christmas Day and I'm. And I absolutely love it. It's called Song Sung Blue, True Story about a performing couple in the 90s in Milwaukee called Lightning and Thunder. Their story is unbelievable. I don't want to tell you more about it, but they were a Neil diamond tribute band, so I did have to learn a bit of that. And so I'm here promoting it. And I'm particularly here because I'm heading to Muncie to go to Ball State University. I've done some teaching up there and I love it up there. And we're gonna premiere the movie there today. But I know you guys are legends and I know I've heard all about the Bob and Tom show and Craig Dobbs, my mate here who brought me who says he won't remember, but I met him about six times. But you remember, right.

[Bob Kevoian]

Dobsy?

[Chick McGee]

Remember Dobbsy?

[Hugh Jackman]

Of course, your best mate. Anyway, so he was just saying we're gonna stop in and I just want to come in and say hi.

[Christy Lee]

Who's your co star in the movie is Kate Hudson.

[Hugh Jackman]

So she plays a Patsy Cline impersonator. So the character's name is Claire, Claire Stengel. And I play Lightning, who was a Neil diamond interpreter. That's what he liked to call himself.

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Hugh Jackman]

And. And together they were Lightning and Thunder in the Midnight. And they were the bomb. Like they opened open for Pearl Jam. And just their story is amazing. It's a love story to tip jar musicians around the world. You know, for every Pearl Jam, there's a thousand really, really good musos who.

[Christy Lee]

Don'T never walk by a tip jar without putting money in it. That's my philosophy in life.

[Hugh Jackman]

I'm right there with You.

[Christy Lee]

Yes.

[Hugh Jackman]

But Kate Hudson is phenomenal in this.

[Christy Lee]

Did she know she could sing?

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Hugh Jackman]

She's got an owl. But actually, her story is amazing because, really, she is a muso at heart. She's an incredible actor, but her soul is that of a musician.

[Christy Lee]

Okay.

[Hugh Jackman]

And as she will say, I'm not speaking out of turn. She goes. And she's been with a few rock stars in her time.

[Bob Kevoian]

Married a couple.

[Hugh Jackman]

So, yeah.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah. I'm not gonna judge her on that.

[Bob Kevoian]

Hugh Jackman is our guest, believe it or not. It's kind of a shock.

[Hugh Jackman]

It's a beautiful day here.

[Al Jackson]

It is.

[Chick McGee]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's great seeing you again in person.

[Hugh Jackman]

Thanks.

[Bob Kevoian]

But, yeah, I have always been a huge fan of the Music man.

[Hugh Jackman]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

And then when I said that you were going to be in it, and I knew that you were a great singer, I literally went to New York just to see you guys.

[Hugh Jackman]

I really appreciate it.

[Bob Kevoian]

It was great.

[Hugh Jackman]

It's just one of the great musicals of all time. It's like a perfect musical.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, but you did screw up that one song. Yeah, it was perfect.

[Hugh Jackman]

I am not.

[Bob Kevoian]

It was so funny because I could see Sutton Foster going. I mean, it was great.

[Chick McGee]

Tell him the other part of that story.

[Bob Kevoian]

What part is that?

[Chick McGee]

Wasn't there someone there behind you, talking in some other language? And the only way, the only thing he.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, I could hear. It's hard to tell this without being politically incorrect.

[Chick McGee]

Well, no, it was just a foreign language.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's New York City, and there was. There were a couple of ladies sitting behind me.

[Chick McGee]

Yes.

[Bob Kevoian]

And during the intermission.

[Pat Godwin]

Right.

[Bob Kevoian]

I, I, he. Why does he put me here?

[Hugh Jackman]

You guys are making eye rolling an Olympic sport. You guys are good at that.

[Christy Lee]

We get to do it a lot here. Yes.

[Hugh Jackman]

I love it.

[Chick McGee]

And all I could hear was, I.

[Pat Godwin]

Don'T know why you'd be.

[Hugh Jackman]

I don't know why you'd be worried about being politically insensitive, but your.

[Bob Kevoian]

God, that was so terrific. That was so great.

[Hugh Jackman]

Thanks, man.

[Bob Kevoian]

But this. I saw the preview, I guess. I guess it's in release now of the movie Song Song Blue. And, and you've got the Neil diamond hair of that era. Oh, yeah. And it's. Well, no, I mean, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Pat Godwin]

How's your question? Do you do pretty good impression?

[Hugh Jackman]

Well, my guy was not really in him, you know, so just did it. Although I have to say, I did go to Neil Diamond's house two weeks ago.

[Bob Kevoian]

Oh, yeah.

[Hugh Jackman]

Nice bit of name dropping there. But I, I actually invited myself.

[Bob Kevoian]

It's Embarrassing.

[Hugh Jackman]

But he rang me because he now. So he knew all about this is based on a documentary. He knew about the documentary, and he loved it, and he gave the rights to his music. And Neil, quite famously, is very cagey about that. You don't hear a lot of commercials with his songs. And he just loved this story. So he said, you can use my catalog. And so he was one of the first to see it. He rang me in tears, and he just said, this just means so much to me because it's also a love letter to him. It's got, like, 10 of his songs in it. And my character just adores him. In fact, he is a recovering addict and credits Neil and Neil's music of sort of saving his life, of getting him through. So it meant a lot to Neil. And so I took the opportunity. I said, man, could I come over and maybe have a cuppa one day?

[Tom Griswold]

Yeah.

[Chick McGee]

And he goes, sure.

[Hugh Jackman]

So I said, great. And we made the date. And then his wife Katie, who's awesome, said, hang on, we're in Aspen, Colorado. Like, where are you coming from? I said, new York. And he goes, you don't just want to come for a cuppa, do you? I said, can I stay the night.

[Chick McGee]

Sleepover?

[Hugh Jackman]

She goes, yes.

[Chick McGee]

So I did.

[Hugh Jackman]

And we did karaoke together. Oh, my God. This is a long story. That's why I was telling you. So how's my impersonation? He came up to me, and he looked me in the eye, and he goes, you did good, kid.

[Tom Griswold]

Oh, nice.

[Bob Kevoian]

But, I mean, you're doing an impersonation of an impersonation of impersonator, right?

[Chick McGee]

Who was an interpreter.

[Tom Griswold]

Right.

[Hugh Jackman]

He loved Neil so much that he said, I'm not gonna be he. He was surrounded by impersonators, people doing Elvis, Barbara Streisand, you know, all of it. And he was like, I don't want to do that. I love him too much. And also, he wanted. He was lightning. He had a lightning bolt on his front tooth. His manager was his dentist.

[Al Jackson]

Dentist, Dr. Dave.

[Hugh Jackman]

I mean, this story, you can't believe it.

[Chick McGee]

And all the.

[Hugh Jackman]

It's really about community. It's about family. It's about all these people come together. You know, life is life, and life throws things at everybody. And these two went through their fair share. And it's about this community.

[Bob Kevoian]

What's the name of the James Brown guy? And there's a preview, and there's a guy doing Mustafa.

[Hugh Jackman]

Mustafa. I've lost his last name. He's just phenomenal.

[Bob Kevoian]

And what is his stage name? It's like the. Is he. Oh, Sex Machine.

[Tom Griswold]

Of course.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tom Griswold]

So the new movie is called Song Sung Blue. Have you been in anything else we may have seen.

[Al Jackson]

You been a.

[Hugh Jackman]

Apart from Music Man, Tony. Tom saw a couple of other things.

[Tom Griswold]

Okay.

[Al Jackson]

All right.

[Chick McGee]

But don't worry.

[Hugh Jackman]

I've got the DVDs here.

[Bob Kevoian]

I'm handing them out.

[Hugh Jackman]

I do all my.

[Chick McGee]

I. I go to every radio station.

[Hugh Jackman]

I don't.

[Jeff Oskay]

Actually.

[Bob Kevoian]

You guys did. Are they ever going to do another movie version of Music man or is that untouchable? I mean, would they?

[Hugh Jackman]

I don't know. I think it's untouchable.

[Chick McGee]

It's.

[Hugh Jackman]

It's a really, really great movie. Robert Preston's great. You know, I think it's kind of like Sound of Music. Let it. Leave it alone. You know, like, when it's. You never know, though.

[Bob Kevoian]

Do you ever blow it when you're doing, like, a scene and you go back into your normal accent?

[Hugh Jackman]

Yes, because you've happened once during Music.

[Bob Kevoian]

Man, I was there, and actually, I.

[Hugh Jackman]

Made Sutton Foster crack, which is not easy. She laughed so hard because I can't even remember, but it came out so Australian. Like an SNL Australian. Come on.

[Chick McGee]

And.

[Hugh Jackman]

Yeah, but you do 400 shows. Well, Tom, I screwed up when you were there. I do screw up a little bit.

[Bob Kevoian]

No, but it was great. I mean, that's the whole thing about live. It's. You're not. It's not going to be perfect, you know, that you're not doing Take three. You're out there having fun, and it was very obvious to the audience that you were having a great time up there.

[Hugh Jackman]

I. I mean, I. I don't know. I. I'm a theater lover myself.

[Bob Kevoian]

Golf.

[Hugh Jackman]

And I love these things.

[Bob Kevoian]

What are you pointing out?

[Al Jackson]

The.

[Hugh Jackman]

These things I had before.

[Chick McGee]

I.

[Hugh Jackman]

Actually, when I'm performing and singing, I shove a little one.

[Bob Kevoian]

There you go.

[Chick McGee]

There's a black current for you.

[Hugh Jackman]

I'm taking it. That's my jam right there.

[Tom Griswold]

You don't understand. Monday, he's gonna go, that damn Hugh Jackman took my.

[Al Jackson]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

Like, what an actor. He rings Neil Diamond.

[Hugh Jackman]

Can I come and stay over?

[Chick McGee]

That's right.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, I'll tell you something.

[Hugh Jackman]

Any of you guys have a spare room?

[Chick McGee]

By the way, thanks. Boy, we're gonna have to carry Christy out of here.

[Hugh Jackman]

Going to live the. I love going. I love it myself.

[Chick McGee]

Why?

[Hugh Jackman]

Because I. I love giving people that feeling of. I was there when, you know, we live in a world where everything is curated. You got filters. You got everything. And There's. Now, AI is a real. Or not, but when you just go into a space, you see a band, you see something, and something happens that could only have happened then.

[Christy Lee]

Yeah.

[Hugh Jackman]

And, you know, makes us all feel alive, I think.

[Bob Kevoian]

Well, great. The movie, once again, is called Song Song Blue Opening.

[Hugh Jackman]

I've got a little. Oh, sorry, go ahead. No, you know, you're doing the big pitch. I don't want to.

[Bob Kevoian]

No, I. I like when you people come and I try to plug their gigs and they step on me. They step on me.

[Chick McGee]

You people. You'd mean Australian.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yes, yes. We. We put you.

[Chick McGee]

Well, he could have said chong, I guess. Oh, I've got a whole thing over here. Here, have one chick.

[Hugh Jackman]

You got me. No, I literally will take it. Here's the thing. I just went into the bathroom. I landed at the airport, and in. I thought, this is the fanciest airport bathroom I've ever been to.

[Bob Kevoian]

Because they had.

[Chick McGee]

Look. Oh, they had little mini mouthwash and little mini deodorant.

[Bob Kevoian]

I was like.

[Hugh Jackman]

I was standing next to a guy who I think might have been a pilot, and I'm like, look at all this. He goes, it's fancy. I said, yeah, I'm nicking that. And he goes, okay.

[Bob Kevoian]

Mr. Hugh Jackman will be in song, so Blue, debuting Christmas.

[Hugh Jackman]

Yeah.

[Bob Kevoian]

And I highly recommend.

[Hugh Jackman]

I've been given a sheet of paper. I'm sure you got a time thing going on.

[Bob Kevoian]

Yeah. Can we come back with it?

[Hugh Jackman]

2 tickets to give away to tonight's screening.

[Bob Kevoian]

Okay. Can we do it in a few minutes?

[Chick McGee]

Oh, good.

[Bob Kevoian]

Hang on, hang on. Where are we? Oh, this. These are the O'Reilly Auto Parts Studios, and believe it or not, this is the Bob and Tom Show. Add to or continue the conversation. Check out the Bob and Tom show on Facebook. Get the [e-mail] this is the Bob and Tom Show.

[Christy Lee]

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[Bob Kevoian]

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[Bob Kevoian]

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[Chick McGee]

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[Tom Griswold]

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[Chick McGee]

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