25W: Around the Room: What is Your Best Physical Trait? + Why Eddie Has Already Cursed the Patriots and Rams + Former NFL C Mitch Morse on Harry Potter Influencing Him to Retire

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show: 25W - Around the Room: What is Your Best Physical Trait? + Why Eddie Has Already Cursed the Patriots and Rams + Former NFL C Mitch Morse on Harry Potter Influencing Him to Retire

Date: January 22, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones (Premiere Networks)
Special Guest: Mitch Morse (former NFL center)

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers The Bobby Bones Show’s signature blend of humor, sports talk, and personal banter. The crew debates their “best physical traits,” dives into football betting and how Eddie’s “curse” is jinxing teams, then brings in former NFL center Mitch Morse for an insightful (and sometimes hilarious) interview about his career, retirement, and why a Harry Potter tour in London helped him hang up his cleats.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Mexican Food Orders and Drink Confusion

[03:19–07:34]

• The crew starts with a light segment about Kevin’s attempts to order Mexican food online. The confusion between huarache (food, not a drink), aguas frescas, and athletic cerveza (non-alcoholic beer) brings plenty of laughs.
• Eddie explains aguas frescas and horchata, while Kevin admits he sticks to simple, cheese-free burrito orders due to dietary restrictions.
• Notable quote:
  "I didn't want to order a sandal. I literally took that as a sandal. I didn't need it." — Kevin [06:21]

2. Celebrity Photo Fatigue and MrBeast

[07:34–10:24]

• Discussion shifts to MrBeast's comments on how being asked for photos can “feel like a death sentence” due to the crowds that form.
• Eddie’s skeptical:
  "Honestly, I don't think half the people recognize Mr. Beast." — Eddie [08:06]
• Kevin argues back:
  "He's the most followed YouTube account. He's very famous." — Kevin [08:39]
• They debate recognizability versus online fame and the evolution of celebrity culture.

3. Superstitions, Sports Betting, and the “Eddie Curse”

[10:51–13:20]

• The group discusses recent bets and Eddie’s notorious “betting curse”—how whenever he jumps on a pick, the group tends to lose.
• Mike and Kevin kid Eddie about commitment and sports superstitions, as well as the cost of going to the Super Bowl.

4. Around the Room: Best Physical Traits

[18:14–23:09]

• The highlight “around the room” bit: Which physical feature would random women be most attracted to on each guy?
  • Eddie: “My eyelashes. The women love my eyelashes...every woman would be jealous to have those.” [20:28]
  • Mike: “My eyes. The blue eyes...my whole family has them.” [21:02]
  • Kevin: Chooses his hair, saying its fast growth and fullness is a point of pride.
• Some gentle ribbing:
  • "I've never once thought about your eyelashes. You have big, thick eyebrows." — Kevin [20:43]

5. NFL Discussion & Betting Parlay Picks

[23:53–25:35]

• They build a betting parlay, taking Patriots -5.5 and Rams +2.5, then add Drake May over 229 passing yards.
• Eddie is all-in:
  • “You really want to make some scratch, that money line.” — Eddie [24:41]

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Featured Interview: Mitch Morse, Retired NFL Center

[29:28–53:08]

Bobby and Kevin welcome long-time NFL center Mitch Morse, who shares stories from his career and personal journey.

Early NFL Career and Teams

[30:45–32:34]

• Morse reflects on his time playing for the Chiefs, Bills, and Jaguars.

Chiefs’ Issues & Travis Kelce’s Future

[32:11–33:29]

• Morse discusses roster turnover, the challenges of sustaining success (“seasons of change”), and why the Chiefs shouldn’t want Travis Kelce to retire:
  • “You do not want Travis Kelsey to retire...he’s a tremendous leader, a rallying cry for a team in a locker room.” — Mitch Morse [32:34]

Deciding to Retire—Harry Potter’s Influence

[33:31–35:03]

• Mitch reveals the surprising, whimsical moment he knew he was done:
  • “I go to Harry Potter [studio], I’m on platform nine and three quarters, and I’m looking around, I’m like, ‘I don’t want to play football anymore.’ I don’t want to be a wizard either...it just hit me.” — Mitch Morse [33:44]

Money vs. Health Considerations

[35:03–36:21]

• Insight into the physical toll: multiple concussions, witnessing traumatic injuries.
  • “At this point, am I playing because I love the game or because I love being a football player? When that intersection crosses...you kind of have to remove yourself.” — Mitch Morse [35:17]

Differences Between Kansas City and Buffalo

[36:21–37:39]

• Compares cold in Kansas City (“the sun’s out”) vs. Buffalo (“the sun goes on holiday”).

Buffalo Coaching and Culture

[37:39–39:12]

• Morse emphasizes the importance of cultural fit for Buffalo’s next coach:
  • “Culture is interesting. The best way you can learn...is being thrown into the fire. There’s no other way [than Buffalo].” — Mitch Morse [38:13]

Jacksonville: Warm-weather Choice

[39:12–40:43]

• Explains picking Jacksonville over Pittsburgh in free agency—good for his family, despite the team’s struggles.

O-line Communication and Quarterback Relationships

[41:47–44:33]

• Hilarious but fascinating technical discussion about on-field communication, and the “dance” between center and quarterback:
  • “You want knuckle to taint...By the end of my career I’d tell Trevor [Lawrence]: ‘Put your hand on my left adductor, my left groin, because this thing’s getting there’...” — Mitch Morse [44:38]

Facing Elite Defenders and Knowing When to Retire

[47:03–48:56]

• Describes lining up against greats like Aaron Donald, Vince Wilfork, and J.J. Watt.
  • “How’d I know it was time to retire? Whoever was up there, I was like, ‘Damn.’ That’s when I knew.” — Mitch Morse [47:03]

Final Takeaways

[51:23–52:25]

• Morse reflects on transitioning to podcasting (“a humbling experience”) and the unpredictability of football.

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NFL Playoff Records & Trivia

[58:10–62:12]

• Crew recalls the biggest comebacks, fewest rushing yards, most postseason wins (Tom Brady by a landslide), and longest playoff droughts (Dolphins, Cardinals).
• Jerry Rice’s career postseason receiving yards and the legendary 28-3 Patriots Super Bowl comeback are highlighted.

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Bloopers & Banter: Festival Smuggling and Snowstorm Prep

[63:06–66:33]

• The crew shares stories about sneaking alcohol into music festivals (camelbaks, “straight vodka”), cruises, and the quirks of security checks.
• Discusses prepping for Nashville’s looming “once in a lifetime” snowstorm. Eddie’s jinx (“curse”) resurfaces as the running joke.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the “curse”:

  • “Why am I a curse? ... I don't understand why I’m the curse.” — Eddie [11:46]
  • “Oh, great. Eddie's on this. Now we're going to lose it and...what do we do? We lose it.” — Kevin [12:03]

• On retirement:

  • “I was just cool with whoever wanted to have me. Missouri was the first one to offer. I was like, sick. Let’s go.” — Mitch Morse [49:00]

• On quarterback/center dynamics:

  • “You shut your mouth and listen to the quarterback...what he’s saying could determine if I have to change what I’m saying...a beautiful dance.” — Mitch Morse [43:11]

• On recognizing when to retire:

  • “Whoever was up there, I was like, damn. That’s when I knew it was trying to retire.” — Mitch Morse [47:03]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Ordering Mexican food & drink confusion: [03:19–07:34]
• MrBeast and celebrity culture: [07:34–10:24]
• Betting talk and “Eddie curse”: [10:51–13:20]
• Physical traits “around the room”: [18:14–23:09]
• Betting parlay picks: [23:53–25:35]
• Mitch Morse Interview: [29:28–53:08]
• NFL trivia & records: [58:10–62:12]
• Snowstorm/sneaking alcohol stories: [63:06–66:33]

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Tone and Style

• Playful and self-deprecating humor: The group constantly teases each other, especially about looks, sports superstitions, and betting “jinxes.”
• Candid and insightful: The Mitch Morse interview balances honest reflections (on health, money, and self-identity during retirement) with football nerd details and blunt, funny stories.
• Relatable: Whether it’s drink orders, hair loss, or parenting, the crew’s banter and guest stories resonate with wide audiences.

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For New Listeners

If you haven’t heard this episode, expect a freewheeling mix of jokes, dude banter, and deep sports insight. The highlight is certainly Mitch Morse’s look at NFL life on and off the field, including the quirky personal moment that helped him walk away. The crew’s openness, playfulness, and realness make this a fun, human listen—sports fan or not.

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[Eddie]

This is a podcast called 25 Whistles.

[Mitch Morse]

Talking Football.

[Kevin]

And they all wear a whistle.

[Mitch Morse]

Yeah, it's stupid, but why did you expect. It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles.

[Mike]

All right.

[Kevin]

Welcome to the show. Blow the whistle. Okay, I'm trying to order some food.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Kevin]

And I have this Mexican restaurant that I like here in town, and I like to order drinks. I like a lot of drinks. I'm a big drink guy. If I'm ordering food, I'll. I'm sampling the array of drinks. And I'm not talking about, like, sodas, but if they have any kind of specialty drink, I'm getting it.

[Eddie]

Oh, aguas frescas. You know what that is? Frescas. It's fresh water, but it's like pineapple water.

[Kevin]

Oh, I don't ever get that.

[Eddie]

Strawberry water.

[Kevin]

Oh, that sounds good. Like, I went to Chick Fil a the other day. I ordered and ordered a regular sweet tea, then ordered one with strawberry syrup.

[Eddie]

Is that good?

[Kevin]

And a lot of. Yeah, it was great, actually. A lot of times. Well, it was an option. If. I don't know, I'll get it and then get another one in case I don't like that one. I'm just a big drink guy. And so there's something here I'm going order for this Mexican restaurant. It's called a harash. What does that mean?

[Eddie]

Spell it.

[Kevin]

H U A R A C H E.

[Mike]

Everyone looks at Mike.

[Kevin]

Spell it again. Sorry. H U A R A C H E. What? At you.

[Eddie]

Okay. But that's a sandal.

[Kevin]

But it's a type of food too. Is it not a drink? No. Oh, is it under drinks if it's. Or chata.

[Eddie]

That's a.

[Mike]

That's a drink.

[Kevin]

What's an athletic cerveza?

[Eddie]

Oh, that's a beer, dude. That's. Oh, athletic brand beer. That's non alcoholic. Non.

[Kevin]

Oh, that's a brand.

[Eddie]

Yeah, Non alcoholic.

[Kevin]

Now you work out and you drink. It was like health or like a. You know how they have like a. What do they call it? Beer? Like Michaela Vulture? No, no, no. They have. They call it beer. It's like a kind of like a. It's not a root beer.

[Eddie]

Oh, oh, oh, like a root.

[Mike]

No, it has the word beer.

[Kevin]

Like a ginger beer. It's not beer. Thank you. It's not beer.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Kevin]

I don't know if that was like an athletic surveys. That was like a ginger beer.

[Eddie]

No athletics. A brain. And they have all non alcoholic beer.

[Kevin]

What about in a bloody.

[Eddie]

Non alcoholic bloody.

[Kevin]

I don't want any of this then. This is all bad. This is not. Got to get.

[Mike]

You wouldn't like any drinks.

[Eddie]

Have you ever had a Bloody Mary virgin?

[Kevin]

No, because I don't feel like I'd like a virgin tomato.

[Eddie]

Really do. A bloody Mary is delicious. Like really good.

[Kevin]

Too savory.

[Eddie]

But I will even say that the vodka in the Bloody Mary kind of ruins the Bloody Mary a little bit.

[Kevin]

So I just don't like savory stuff. I don't like savory drinks.

[Eddie]

Like salty, salty drinks.

[Kevin]

Not really. I like salt. I'll go to Mexican places and I'll get a fruity drink and have a salt on the rim.

[Eddie]

There we go.

[Mike]

It.

[Kevin]

Lick it.

[Eddie]

Oh, and they're judging you.

[Kevin]

I love a salty rib.

[Mike]

Give the drink back.

[Eddie]

Hey, have you had horchata?

[Kevin]

I don't know what that is.

[Eddie]

It's like a rice milk.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's.

[Eddie]

It's almost like.

[Kevin]

I think I would be nervous to order it because I don't know what it is, so. I probably wouldn't order a horchata. It's pretty sweet.

[Eddie]

I mean, it's. I would. I would classify it like a. I mean, it's like milk, but it's. It's almost like an almond milk. But a sweeter almond milk.

[Kevin]

Like ice cold. Okay, I made my order.

[Eddie]

What'd you get?

[Kevin]

What'd you get? A burrito.

[Eddie]

After all that? Well, you're not gonna try the. What I choose.

[Kevin]

He said it was a sandal.

[Eddie]

Yeah, but it's called a sandal. But it's really a food. You're not ordering a sandal.

[Kevin]

I didn't want to order a sandal. I literally took that as a sandal. I didn't need it.

[Mike]

It looks.

[Kevin]

It looks like a sandal. Like, the base of it looks like a sandal. Is it a fruity drink? No, it's a food.

[Eddie]

It's a food.

[Kevin]

Oh, I didn't want that. No, I got a burrito. I thought I was on the drinks tab.

[Eddie]

What's in your burrito, dude? I'm so curious about your Mexican food order.

[Kevin]

It's so. And basic because I can't have cheese.

[Eddie]

Okay, so you have meat, like protein. What's your protein? Chicken.

[Kevin]

Yeah, chicken. And rice. Beans and beans. That's it. That's all I can have.

[Eddie]

Solid. Dude, put some people.

[Kevin]

Salsa.

[Mike]

No, no.

[Eddie]

Yeah, salsa.

[Kevin]

It comes on the side. I order the triple salsa.

[Mike]

It's triple heat salsa.

[Kevin]

It's three different kinds of sauces. Oh, and it comes with guac, so I get the chips and triple salsa.

[Eddie]

There we go.

[Kevin]

Yeah, they're good. And one's orange, one's green, one's red. The orange is the hottest.

[Eddie]

Yeah, that's probably a habanero.

[Mike]

Habanero, yeah.

[Kevin]

But it's a place we go all the time called Mice.

[Eddie]

Mice. Corn.

[Kevin]

And you go on in the walls, all corn. Let's made the walls made of corn. Used to be a food truck here in town. And, yeah, it was to a.

[Eddie]

What do you call it?

[Kevin]

Brick And I think it's still a food truck, but also they made it to a restaurant. Maybe another one. This one's, like, right up the road.

[Mike]

Okay, never mind.

[Kevin]

But it's awesome. I order from there once a week. We go there once every couple weeks. But I'm glad you guys could experience that with me.

[Eddie]

That was actually fun.

[Kevin]

Well, I just didn't know what the drink selection was there. You may want to think twice if you want to get a photo with Mr. Beast. So he says that people asking for a photo with him feels like a death sentence.

[Eddie]

Why? He doesn't like taking pictures of people.

[Kevin]

Basically, he said it's like a death sentence if you're not quick because you take photos in public. Everybody's going to turn around, and then lines form, and then you're just there taking pictures the whole time. Oh, so he doesn't, like, take pictures with people because he knows that'll equal far more pictures with far more people. You rolled your eyes.

[Mitch Morse]

Go ahead.

[Eddie]

Yes. It's so dumb. You can handle all that? Like, I think Theo Vaughn does a really good job. I've seen videos of him where he walks out, he's like, guys, I'm just gonna be real with you. I've got to be somewhere in two minutes. So if you want to take a group picture, we'll all do it. And then I gotta roll. And then he does that, and then he leaves it. The line. Relax. Honestly, I don't think half the people recognize Mr. Beast.

[Kevin]

I think you're old. I think that's a very old person thing to say.

[Eddie]

You're telling me.

[Mike]

I've never seen one of his videos, but I know who he is.

[Eddie]

You know, what he looks like if you saw him on the street. Yeah.

[Mike]

Would I take a picture? Probably not, but yes.

[Kevin]

You're old by saying that Mike super old dude is the most followed YouTube account. He's very famous.

[Eddie]

I think he's dumb to think that if he took one picture, the whole freaking street will stop.

[Kevin]

He has young fans. So you see a bunch of kids out there all going to know who Mr. Beast is. He says he's literally been kicked out of Walmart because of it.

[Eddie]

Oh, he did it at Walmart.

[Kevin]

And I'm surprised he's at Walmart. I think that's the part that I was surprised by. Surprising I mean almost half a billion subscribers on YouTube.

[Eddie]

No, I get it.

[Kevin]

But you don't because you were like, he's not famous. No, he's way more famous. Name somebody like Arnie, Text.

[Eddie]

The guy I follow on TikTok. He cooks Mexican food. He's legit. Right? But I. And I know I watch all his videos, but if I saw him on the street, I probably wouldn't even think that's Arnie Tex.

[Kevin]

But that's not Mr. Beast.

[Eddie]

He's still pretty, pretty big on TikTok. But not, not huge.

[Mike]

I understand, but what about I show Speed?

[Eddie]

Never seen him before.

[Kevin]

So he's super famous. He's not Mr. Beast famous because Mr. Beast was that famous. Plus he's so big that corporations wanted to get involved with him. And he's got food. Mr. Beast is wildly famous. The Paul brothers. Speed is super famous. But Mr. Beast is a different level.

[Eddie]

Logan, Jake, those dudes, I get it. Like they're. You can't mistaken. Like I still think Mr. Beast kind of still looks like a normal dude. That doesn't. You see Jake Paul, you're like, oh, that's Jake Paul. No doubt.

[Kevin]

My problem with Mr. Beast is he doesn't look like a Beast. To have a name like Mr. Beast, I always feel he should be a little more Beast. Like.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Or a big dude. Yeah, he's not.

[Eddie]

Do we know how he got his name?

[Kevin]

Gamertag. He started out streaming.

[Eddie]

Okay, what would your game. What's your gamer tag?

[Kevin]

My gamer tag is. I think it's Bobby Bones. Bones. Because someone had jacked my name and so I just made that up real quick.

[Eddie]

So that would be your Mr. Beast. Bobby Bones. Bones.

[Kevin]

No, my name, my Mr. Beast is Bobby Bones. Not even my real name.

[Eddie]

Okay, that's true. That's true. Huh?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

That minus Smoking Edo now because I had. I got hacked. I think Producer Eddie was my name. And that got hacked. And then I'm Smoking Edo. Now, but I meant by like smoking chicken. That's why I created it.

[Kevin]

Everybody thinks you're.

[Eddie]

Yeah, that's what's up. I started playing every 2K and they're like, yeah, you smoking too, dude?

[Mike]

I think you're like smoking dudes in games. You know what I mean?

[Kevin]

Oh, that too. Yeah.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Complex with that story there. How you doing?

[Eddie]

I'm good, man, I'm good. Cold, but I'm good.

[Kevin]

Checking in. You're not betting?

[Eddie]

I. I bet last night on.

[Kevin]

Oh, you're back.

[Eddie]

It was just a late night bet, I think.

[Kevin]

No, no, there's not a. It doesn't count as much if it's late night. Still, like, the value doesn't down Cincinnati, but the significance was you weren't betting Arizona, Cincinnati basketball. And was it. Was it an Arizona game? So it was way later.

[Eddie]

It was later and it was towards the end and I was just like, oh, let me just throw this $5 on this and see what happens. And I hit it. Three in a row, baby. Three in a row. I'm back. And I just. To me, to me, dude, you're back. To me. That. That. That New England's Patriots line. That's. That's too little. Like, what is it? Minus four and a half. That's too little.

[Mike]

Stay away from that.

[Kevin]

It's minus five and a half right now.

[Eddie]

Okay, so that's what I'm saying. See, it's moving so quickly. By the time this podcast over, it's gonna be minus eight and a half. We gotta get on that now.

[Mike]

Stay away.

[Kevin]

Eddie, you are kind of a curse.

[Eddie]

Why though? Like, why am I a curse?

[Kevin]

Because anytime you hop on something, we tend to lose.

[Eddie]

I don't disagree with that, but I don't understand why I'm the curse.

[Kevin]

Oh, you don't know why I don't understand it? You're not arguing that you're not a curse, you just don't know why you're cursed.

[Eddie]

I've seen it too many times and you guys remind every single time.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Oh, great. Eddie's on this. Now we're going to lose it and.

[Kevin]

What do we do?

[Eddie]

We lose it.

[Kevin]

What's the deal? So do you think you'll stay if the Patriots win? Because we're going to go out to San Francisco.

[Mike]

I. I'm 50. 50 now.

[Kevin]

Are you only 50? 50? Because you don't want to say yes. Because if you commit to it, it makes sense.

[Mike]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm 50. 50 because it's going to cost a lot of money. That's why I'm 50. 50.

[Kevin]

You'll already be out there, though. Paid for.

[Eddie]

So the travel, but.

[Mike]

But I will have to pay for it. Two nights of myself and the game ticket and then the drinks and the food for two or three days, which adds up quick.

[Eddie]

It's your own drinks.

[Kevin]

It's your own thing in the super bowl, though.

[Mike]

I know, dude.

[Eddie]

Sacrifice. You're like, the drinks, man.

[Mike]

I got little ones now. I got to think about, like, future stuff and everything.

[Kevin]

When they're like three, you have to actually care about them.

[Mike]

But I got to start that now, like, you know, start putting stuff into accounts for them, you know, A thousand.

[Kevin]

What's your advice about that?

[Eddie]

Dude, it just. I. I never. Like, it was.

[Mike]

Yeah. How was that going?

[Eddie]

For paycheck to paycheck. I'm still paycheck to paycheck.

[Kevin]

Exactly. You know what?

[Eddie]

But you know what, though? They're not starving and they've eaten.

[Mike]

But I'm talking about college funds. I'm talking about cars.

[Kevin]

Yeah, he's got a point. They're not starving.

[Eddie]

They're living, dude. They're very happy.

[Mike]

We're gonna keep it that way.

[Kevin]

Did you know Jared Stidham was a top two recruit behind only Kyler Murray in high school? And Kyler Murray was legendary in high school. So Kyler Murray was number one. Texas A and M. This is dual threat quarterbacks. Jarrett Stidham, Baylor, but he ended up going to Auburn. Deandre Francois.

[Mike]

Do you remember him?

[Kevin]

No.

[Mike]

You would if he's all picture number 12 for Florida State.

[Kevin]

What about him would be.

[Eddie]

He was good.

[Mike]

Like, he was good. He started for a few years.

[Kevin]

He was number three. Brandon Wimbush, Notre Dame. Dwayne Lawson at Virginia Tech. Sherry On Jones of Tennessee. Are these was the only second because everybody else sucked.

[Eddie]

None of these guys names.

[Mike]

Wimbush. He was a lefty at Notre Dame.

[Kevin]

Oh, I'm sure they all were real people.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kevin]

This is 2015, but some of the guys. Joe Burrow was nine.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

This is a dual threat to Ohio State. Yeah. And Kelly Bryant at Clemson. I remember Kelly Bryant. Lamar Jackson was at number 17.

[Eddie]

Wow.

[Mitch Morse]

At Louisville.

[Mike]

Rankings mean nothing, man.

[Eddie]

But we. Are we. Are we scraping here? Like, what do you mean? I mean, we're talking Stidham's like, did you know, like. Well, we're looking for anything to be like, guys, he could really pull this off.

[Kevin]

Oh, I think it's just fun fact more than anything else.

[Mike]

I'm not saying that he. He was a top two recruit. He's going to win this game, guys.

[Eddie]

I just feel like everyone's just like, let's scrape anything we got on him so we can make this a game.

[Kevin]

I don't think he can pull it off. I'm not a Patriots fan, so I'm okay with saying that because I don't feel like I can jinx it. I. I don't think that they'll pull it off. I don't think they're going to ask a lot of him.

[Mike]

The Broncos.

[Kevin]

Yes. So I think he can probably pull off what's being asked of him. I think the problem will be if they get down. Yeah, if they get down 10 points or so, it's going to be on him.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And then it's make or break by Stidham.

[Mike]

You think? I think Dobbins came off the ir. He's, like, eligible to practice. Evan said he's playing or not. Do you think that would be a big factor? They have Harvey, the rookie, but if they can run, obviously that helps him.

[Kevin]

They are going to run.

[Mike]

Yeah, they have to.

[Kevin]

They're going to run.

[Mike]

And their old line's good?

[Kevin]

Yeah, no, they're. They're good offensively. They're great defensively, but they're good to good. Plus, with Bo Nicks, how are the.

[Eddie]

Patriots against the run?

[Mike]

Been a lot better since Milton Williams, D tackle. He came back bar more. I mean, you've seen the last two games, dude, they've allowed one touchdown, two playoff games.

[Kevin]

Hey, are you lying about your shoulder?

[Mike]

What do you mean?

[Kevin]

So Kevin's still in a sling? There have been people.

[Mike]

There have been Eddie.

[Eddie]

No, I just didn't say that. And he's not even looking at me.

[Kevin]

I wasn't even looking at him.

[Eddie]

I just heard the word lie, and I'm like, go ahead.

[Kevin]

There have been people saying that you're using your shoulder and how long that you've been injured as a way to garner sympathy, that you've been telling people at work it's going to be seven months.

[Mike]

Seven months? I never said seven months.

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[Eddie]

Seven months.

[Mike]

No, the phys. So what's Eddie.

[Eddie]

He didn't say that.

[Mike]

The physical therapy part of it. So I went last week when I was at physical therapy, and I'm supposed to get the sling off next week. Thank God. And I was like, hey, you know, when I get done with the sling, I got what, like a month left or something of physical therapy? He's like, dude, you're here till, like, June or July. I didn't know that. I didn't realize the entire process of physical therapy takes that long. But I didn't say seven months. But I mean, that is five to six.

[Eddie]

Six months.

[Kevin]

So you haven't said that to any girls in the office.

[Mike]

I know. Oh, I know who you're talking about. I didn't say. Why are you looking at me?

[Eddie]

Dude.

[Mike]

It ain't Mike and it definitely is not.

[Eddie]

You don't know that.

[Mike]

No, I've never said seven months. I said to June or July.

[Kevin]

I mean, that's six months. Are you feeling good though?

[Mike]

Yeah, I'm ready to get out, man. I'm. I'm getting all kinds of good range of motion at physical therapy. I'm trying to be like Adrian Peterson.

[Kevin]

It sucks. You know, physical therapy sucks. It hurts.

[Mike]

Yeah, it does.

[Eddie]

You're going every week now.

[Kevin]

Sometimes twice a week.

[Mike]

You're still going too, huh?

[Kevin]

Twice a week. I only, I. I got into this thing, I forget what it's called, but it's like an anti gravity treadmill. And they say that because it takes 30 to 40% of your weight off when you run. And so I had surgery on my ankle and what you do is you get in this hula hoop type thing and you zip into to it and they blow up the air.

[Eddie]

So it makes you hover a little bit.

[Mike]

I'm a little.

[Kevin]

And so I'm running and they have it on five and a half or so and I'm doing one minute intervals and I feel my ankle go. Shock right in my ankle and I'm like done, out, done. And it hurt bad where I thought I was done and re. Re injured it. And my doctor was like, no, no, no, it's going to hurt when that happens. Stop. And so I didn't get on the treadmill again the next week. But now I do a lot of stuff where I stand on one foot and catch a ball because I've got to like put weight to move in different directions.

[Mike]

On the other foot or on that foot?

[Kevin]

On that foot.

[Mike]

Ouch.

[Eddie]

Who's throwing you the ball? The doctor.

[Kevin]

People just walking by.

[Eddie]

There you go. Catch this outside.

[Mike]

Home Depot.

[Kevin]

Physical therapist.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Kevin]

Yeah. So I'm going twice a week. I gotta get it better.

[Mike]

Are you see? I'm like, I feel like an athlete. I'm like motivated. I'm like, if I need to get in here three times, let me know I need to get this thing better.

[Kevin]

I've just put on probably 10 pounds because I can't run, I can't really do anything active. And so I just don't want to be fat anymore because it feels like I'm fat in my body because I'm not used to having this extra £10.

[Eddie]

You're not, though.

[Mike]

You don't look.

[Eddie]

You look good, dude.

[Mitch Morse]

Shout out.

[Kevin]

Both of you.

[Eddie]

Do not think you're fat.

[Kevin]

You're not beast.

[Eddie]

Hey, so is that your goal to not be fat, like, right now, or is it your goal to be like, I want to get back to the pickleball court.

[Kevin]

I miss competing in anything. And also, there have been things that we have not done, like go to Tennessee basketball and, like, do that. Shoot with them, because I can't. I'm not gonna go and be on a freaking crutch. So I just like to be back to normal. Okay, But I gotta be back to normal before my wife has a baby.

[Mike]

Yeah, that too. Do you ever get. You kind of touched on A little bit, but, like, every time I feel a little hurt in my shoulder, I'm like, oh, no. Yeah, screwed for another month. But then you talk to your doctor or the physical therapist, they're like, no, that's totally normal.

[Kevin]

Like, okay. What was weird was it's so weak because I didn't use it for three months and it had to be surgically repaired. So, like, I'm doing calf raises and I started to get tired just doing calf raises. That's, like, the weeniest workout you could possibly do. And so, yeah, that's been weird.

[Eddie]

You, like, out of breath doing calf raises?

[Kevin]

No, but I just. My leg is completely fatigued.

[Eddie]

Got you.

[Mike]

Do you see a size difference in your legs?

[Kevin]

No, it's been three months.

[Eddie]

Your legs look good, dude.

[Kevin]

No, my arms, though. I've lost a little.

[Eddie]

Really, like, tone. You lost some tone on that?

[Kevin]

Look, I don't have an extremely muscular body. Bad.

[Eddie]

Pretty good arms for a minute there, dude. Yeah, you're looking pretty.

[Kevin]

Because I'm a pretty thin guy, and I. My arms are pretty good. I've kind of lost a little bit. Yeah, that's.

[Mike]

Hey, you'll get it back, man.

[Eddie]

What about you?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, same. I mean, I'm kind of the same where, like, you know, you have your. Your strengths and your weaknesses. I feel like my arms and shoulders are one of my strengths.

[Kevin]

And so what's your body strength like? Like, what's strongest? No, no. What's, like, the. If some woman you didn't know had to look at your whole body and pick the. The thing they were most attracted to, it can't Be your wife because she knows you as a human. And she'll be kind.

[Eddie]

You know, she would be most attracted to, like, any part, not just muscle. Stop.

[Mitch Morse]

Stop it.

[Eddie]

Because, I mean, my. My biceps are pretty good.

[Kevin]

What's your best. What's your most attractive body part?

[Eddie]

Is easy.

[Kevin]

Go ahead.

[Eddie]

My eyelashes. The women love my eyelashes. I get. Dude, I get it all the time. And they won't say, like, oh, my gosh, they're so hot. What they tell me is, gosh, you have great eyelashes. Like, every woman would be jealous to have those.

[Kevin]

I've never once thought about your eyelashes. You have big, thick eyebrows.

[Eddie]

They never say anything about my eyebrows.

[Kevin]

Maybe they're so blown away at how thick your eyebrow and. And you catch them staring and like, oh, yeah, your eyelashes.

[Eddie]

Why can't you just accept that they like my eyelashes?

[Kevin]

They might. I just don't notice eyelashes at all.

[Eddie]

Yeah, well, the girls like it. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Kevin, you.

[Mike]

Mine are my eyes. The blue eyes. I'm just saying, guys, hey, my whole family has them, dude. Till this day. My dad is 65 years old, and he still gets compliment on him. All right? And they got handed down to me, my brother, my sister, my babies.

[Eddie]

What do they say? Like.

[Mike]

And they're like, damn, you have such beautiful eyes.

[Eddie]

Damn, you have such beautiful eyes.

[Mike]

Yeah, like, your eyes are so blue. Oh, my gosh. I know.

[Kevin]

Thanks.

[Mike]

All right.

[Eddie]

What you got? Dude, don't even. Don't what?

[Mitch Morse]

What would I say?

[Kevin]

You don't know what I'm going to say. What do you think is my best body part? Because I know what I'm going to say.

[Eddie]

What do I think? Yeah. So it doesn't have to be external, right?

[Kevin]

Like your brain, My kidney. Oh, no, you got a good brain. It's got to be somebody that you. That they can just see physically, not see.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

No, because I. I have. What? My quick answer is Hair. My hair?

[Mike]

Yes.

[Eddie]

You're powerful, dude.

[Kevin]

It's. It's strong. It's powerful. The girl that cuts my hair, sometimes she has to cut it, like, three times in a month. She's like, man, if I have something to do, she's like, this grows like nothing else.

[Eddie]

And I bet to her it's fun. It's like, it's a clean blank canvas, dude. And she can just do whatever with it.

[Kevin]

I don't give her any direction.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

She's like, what do you want to do this time? Whatever you feel.

[Eddie]

That's awesome.

[Kevin]

Because I know if it ain't good, it'll grow back all I have to do to get my hair to grow is like this.

[Eddie]

And it grows back.

[Mitch Morse]

I just.

[Kevin]

I just squeeze and it grows out of my head.

[Eddie]

Dude, you know what?

[Kevin]

It's like I'm pooping.

[Mike]

Do you get lightheaded?

[Kevin]

I do that and my hair grows.

[Eddie]

When I would get my hair cut and, like, I had a little bit of hair, I'd always do that, too. Like, do whatever you want. Like, there's only one thing we can do to this trim it. It's not much, man. Like, that's why I decided to shave it all.

[Mike]

Do you ever go to the barber for, like, your beard or anything?

[Kevin]

Never.

[Eddie]

No, I'm done with that. I got Lasik for my eyes. Never have to go to the eye doctor, and I don't.

[Kevin]

So you could see that you're missing hair.

[Mike]

Yeah. What does that have to do with your beard?

[Kevin]

I'm just saying.

[Eddie]

I used to go to the eye doctor all the time. Had to go, like, twice a year. Don't have to do that anymore. And I don't have to get my hair cut anymore, ever.

[Kevin]

Bald head's good on you. Yeah.

[Eddie]

Thank you, man. I. Dude, I'm kind of back to the hat because I just. I don't know. I don't. And what's weird is I look in the mirror and I'm like, dang, I look just like my dad.

[Kevin]

You do look just like your dad, though, now, because you're also getting older.

[Eddie]

Yeah, I'm older. And what does that mean? Like. Because my dad was, like, 72.

[Kevin]

Yeah, but, like, I'm not 72. No, you just. You're starting to get older. And my version of him is probably from 15 years ago when I first met him. And you maybe longer than that.

[Eddie]

And he was bald, right?

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin]

Bald, yeah.

[Mike]

And you remember him at the age that you're at now?

[Kevin]

Probably.

[Mike]

You know what I mean?

[Eddie]

When he was my age, he had hair. Like, he still had hair. It was, like, bald in circle. And he had a mustache.

[Mike]

Cold sack.

[Eddie]

He had a mighty. Had a mustache for so long.

[Kevin]

And I've thought about, like, no, that looks gross.

[Eddie]

Why people do it, dude, some country artists, yeah, Riley Green, Morgan Wallen, they pull it off. Why can't we pull it?

[Kevin]

Because they're Riley Green and Morgan Wallen.

[Eddie]

Fair enough.

[Kevin]

How do you say green in Spanish Verde? You'd be Riley Verde. All right, so let's. Let's knock out a parlay here. We got Patriots minus five and a half at the Broncos with DraftKings.

[Mitch Morse]

What?

[Eddie]

What do you got. That's a no brainer, dude.

[Mike]

Okay, you're taking the Broncos.

[Eddie]

You gotta take the Patriots.

[Kevin]

So Patriots minus five and a half.

[Eddie]

I mean guys, it's. It's like the Seahawks Niners game. Murder Row.

[Kevin]

Okay, Patriots minus five and a half. Consider it done. Rams at Seahawks.

[Mike]

Eddie.

[Kevin]

Seahawks minus two and a half. Let's say it on the count of three.

[Eddie]

Rams.

[Kevin]

I was going to say that too. Golly. Okay.

[Eddie]

Right.

[Kevin]

So you want. You're taking Rams plus two and a half.

[Eddie]

Yeah. You really want to make some scratch that money line.

[Mike]

You really want to make some scratch.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Eddie]

What you thinking? He's scratching his head. I like this.

[Kevin]

I'm going to go. Drake may over 229 passing. So we'll do that. We'll do patriots minus five and a half. Rams plus two and a half. Drake may plus 229 passing.

[Eddie]

Then you're loving those passing yards.

[Kevin]

Yeah, because most of them. I don't want to be the guess as most of the time I hit because I don't. I feel pretty good. I feel pretty confident in those. I think I hit more of those.

[Mike]

Those are fun.

[Eddie]

Yeah. What's your magic number? You like 200? Around 200.

[Kevin]

Depends if it's CJ Stroud. Like 80. But sometimes I go to DraftKings and I move it back 80.

[Mike]

We don't even offer that, actually.

[Kevin]

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[Mitch Morse]

It does. And it turns out Monday mornings NFL season, where football contents a diaper pail in regards to people coming and checking you out. But it's been fun, dude. And yeah, that was a safe assumption, my friend.

[Kevin]

I want to roll through your teams at first because you played for three teams. The Chiefs drafted you, right?

[Mitch Morse]

They did, yes, sir.

[Kevin]

And so looking back at 2025 for the Chiefs, you know, they have some decisions to make. They have some decisions to be made, which is one is Kelsey coming back. But what are they going to have to do to kind of get back in the mix next year? Wow.

[Mitch Morse]

Yeah. I mean, great question, because if you had told me that their season went in like this and that kind of strife, I would have told you you're crazy because, I mean, it felt like they were just going to reload and revamp and get going. But you know, it's interesting. So you see like a guy like Patrick Mahomes or I assume a Josh Allen here soon, or a Tom, like so Tom Brady, he's on the same team but had four, three or four different iterations of the same team. Like it's just going to have these influx of core guys and players. You're gonna have to go through this shift because from the outside looking in, I have no idea what happened. You know, I have the utmost respect. And for coach Reed and that core of leaders there, they've done a great job and they've won big games and big moments. And I think this is one of those seasons of change. And if you, if you had a pill that could tell you exactly what was wrong, you'd be a billionaire. Because no one really knows.

[Kevin]

You know, with, with the Chiefs, they've drafted pretty well except for like the receiver spot. Like they've. And that's the thing that you mentioned, New England, they had trouble drafting receivers as well. And you've got to draft well to consistently be good because that's where you're saving money, right? You're paying those rookie contracts, but you got a bunch of money going into Travis Kelsey. Do you want Travis Kelsey to retire? If you're the chief, so you have that money?

[Mitch Morse]

Absolutely not. Of course I have some skin in the game. He's a tremendous leader. I mean, talk about a rallying cry for a team in a locker room. Him, you can't refute. His production this year was impressive, especially when everyone was kind of doubting him going into his 13th season. I mean, granted, you have to look at it pragmatically going into year 14, year depreciating asset in the NFL. But when the Kelsey brothers have a proven record of, of being able to perform well into year 14 and 15, if you look at his brother, that being said, I mean, you could talk to a guy, you could have Canaan conversations. You've garnered this relationship where you're able to have these convers with Travis if he wants to take a pay cut or if not, or how he envisions his season or his career ending rather. So, you know, long, long way of answering that question, which what I would say, absolutely, you do not want Travis Kelsey to retire.

[Kevin]

How did you know when it was time to retire?

[Mitch Morse]

Oh, man. You know, that's a great question. I was. First of all, we, we'd played overseas because the Jags play a bunch overseas. And we were doing a two week stint. We played the Bears and then we were going to play New England. And where we were staying was called the Grove. It's this unbelievable kind of resort golf place where a lot of actors stay because there's a studio where they film A bunch of movies right there. And we were staying there and we just kind of got pounded by the Bears. And I played a terrible game and kind of. Coach had kind of put me up on the poster board and kind of rained me. And rightfully so. I played terrible, but I had had tickets because they. It was right next to where they had filmed Harry Potter, like literally the. A mile away. So I go to Harry Potter. I'm walking through Harry Potter land. I'm on platform nine and three quarters, and I'm looking around, I'm like, I don't want to play football anymore. I don't want be a wizard either. But like, I, you know, it's just I. And you go back and you have this conversation with your wife and, you know, it's just I. I had found there's two. There's two schools of thought in this, which is quit while you're ahead or play one more year than you think. And I definitely went for the latter. And I appreciate that because it gave you some clarity and some closure on this. But that being said, you also catch yourself on film. You're like, who the hell is that? Because you're telling your body. Talk about depreciating asset. You're telling your body, all right, run this way, go this fast, reach the linebackers, and your. Your. Your legs are chugging as fast as they can. They just. Your body does not respond like it used to. So that's a very humbling experience in itself and definitely helps play a role into making that decision.

[Kevin]

Isn't it hard, though, to give up the money? Because again, and I do an NFL show with Matt Castle and we talk a lot about how athletes. You have a very limited window to make that really good money. How much does that weigh into retiring, though?

[Mitch Morse]

Oh, I mean, the. The Bills probably paid me a lot more than they should have. And, And I got. I got compensated well. I was very fortunate in my career. And, you know, to be honest, I was playing for less money than I played for since my rookie season at that point. And I'm seeing friends, you know, go through these traumatic injuries in the field. You know, whether it be, you know, I've already suffered six concussions. Do I want another one and have that conversation with my family or I had a buddy whose leg exploded on the field, severed a nerve, and has permanent drop foot, like, and you got to play that into it is this point, am I playing football because I love the game still, or am I playing it because I love being a football player? And when You. When that intersection crosses and you're doing it and you find it. You find you might be doing it a little bit for vanity, you kind of got to remove yourself. And. And it was. It was. It was a. It was a difficult moment for sure, because that's your identity for as long as you can think, like, I play football, people answer the phone, cool. Like, that's inevitably going to change. But that doesn't mean you should keep playing the game if it's for the wrong reasons.

[Kevin]

So you go to Buffalo, which you just mentioned. Is it a different kind of cold? Because it's freaking cold in Kansas City. It. But then Buffalo, it just seems like it's a different animal up there. Do you have to get better at playing in cold weather?

[Mitch Morse]

Well, it. I would say, you know, it's interesting. It's a great question. People on that. It gets colder in Kansas City, but the sun's out. And that plays a role because once November 1st hits in beautiful Buffalo, New York and Western New York, the sun goes on holiday. And I don't know where it goes, but that plays a huge role on just your mentals. And yeah, I guess the. The eerie effect. Snow is so prominent.

[Mike]

It.

[Mitch Morse]

And you know, it grabs the. Garners the attention of the media and yourself. I mean, in 2022, we were gonna. We were supposed to play at home. We had to move the game because it snowed 7ft in 24 hours.

[Kevin]

Oh, my God.

[Mitch Morse]

And I'll tell you what, like, the drywall inside the house started to crack because of the weight on the. On the roof. Yeah. So it definitely. That plays a role in having to kind of nut up or shut up. And. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing, man. It's a great place to be. And I'll tell you what, as much as it's cold and kind of grimy, it's. It's conducive for great football, great fellowship and just good family lifestyle.

[Kevin]

You know, Sean McDermott was fired. I feel like Buffalo is a place where you have to get a guy to come in and actually be a part of the culture. Like, you can't have a coach force a culture onto Buffalo. It's almost like Nebraska football. They would try with some of those wide open guys. They come in, run a wide open. It was just a little too wide open. That's just not Nebraska football. As much as you try, I feel like Buffalo is a bit the same. Like, if you're not from Buffalo and understand what the Bills mafia and Bills culture is like, it ain't going to fit. And there have been talks of, you know, Dable, and we could go through all the possibilities, but what kind of coach does Buffalo need?

[Mitch Morse]

Oh, yeah, the culture thing is interesting. I feel like you get, you know, the best way you can learn in any facet of life is being thrown into the fire. And there's no other way of being a coach in Buffalo, New York, than being thrown in the fire. So that way you'll learn. I think the biggest thing for this team is they made a decision, right. You can call it right or wrong, but there's a decision made where they felt there was stagnancy or they just needed sometimes just a change of scenery. You got to find a guy who is either going to develop your quarterback, continue pushing that guy, or you have to find another defensive mind. It's. It's a fascinating thing. It's another one of those things that if you had a pill that could tell you exactly what to do, you'd be a billionaire. Because this is a decision they're gonna have to solely make. And no matter what they make, there's going to be either criticisms or adulation for all this. It's going to be a remarkable thing to see. And I. Hopefully they nail it because I got a lot of vested interest in that. That area.

[Kevin]

What about the Jaguars? You go to the Jaguars. Let's talk about them as a team. First of all, I guess we should talk about the juxtaposition of Buffalo versus Jacksonville. It's got to feel great to go somewhere where you're not having to double sleeve up, right?

[Mitch Morse]

Yeah. It played a huge role in picking the. That team. I mean, Doug Peterson was my first ever offensive coordinator for the Chiefs. That played a role in that. And then, you know, my wife had always kind of joked if we had played for another team, that if she. If we could make it below a certain latitude, she'd be very happy. And then when it actually pushed came to shove, she was mute because the biggest player in that free agency was actually Pittsburgh. You know, they offered more money. They were very interested. And, you know, they brought me in and. And I was hoping I would hate it when I got there. And I remember calling my wife and be like, I got. I got terrible news for you. This place is awesome. Mike Tomlin's a man. This is cool. But then as I'm there, Jacksonville calls, I go down, and that sun just snatches my soul, man. The palm trees. And then you gotta think outside yourself. It's your 10. You know, of course, you want to play for, you know, you got to put yourself in the best position, but also for your family. I mean, they've. They've been through it now, these nine years in Kansas City and Buffalo, kind of freezing and hunkering down for you, it's kind of. You got to meet them halfway. And yeah, professionally it stunk. We weren't very good, but it wasn't because we didn't try hard and we didn't have a good group of dudes. It was just, you know, whatever you want to call it, it just didn't work out. But to be able to cross the intercoastal every day on your way home and see them and they're thriving, I mean, you do that 10 times over.

[Kevin]

If you're a Jaguars fan. You got to pretty excited though, right? Liam Cohen comes in. Obviously they, you know, kind of crapped out in the playoffs, but it wasn't that. It wasn't a great team. I mean, Josh Allen basically carried that victory, snatched it from them. Trevor Lawrence had his best season. Jaguar fans pretty pumped up.

[Mitch Morse]

Absolutely. Yeah. It was really fun to be in. Entrenched in a community where everyone was kind of lit up by the team. Yeah, talk about a total flip on the head. Liam Cohen comes in and interjects confidence, swagger, moxie, whatever you want to call it, and execution into a team that I was telling folks when I was there, you know, because when you're, when you're kind of stinking it up, people don't really take your word for a team. I'm sitting there, I'm like, these two. We got some dudes on this team who can play football. And then they just had the opportunity to let it fly, execute, whatever you want to call it. I don't know what happened, but whatever happened was great. They were the most complete team, in my opinion, in the afc. And anyone talking to folks in Buffalo and. Or in Jacksonville, I mean, this was going to be a great game. And. And shoot, Jacksonville's got it going on. Truly. It's been fun to see.

[Kevin]

When you're playing center and you're calling whatever you're calling, you're pointing to something. I don't know what you're pointing at. The quarterbacks also saying stuff. Do you guys ever have to, like, shut each other up so you. So you can hear. Your lineman can hear you because he's also yelling at the receivers, like, is there a role? Like, don't talk at the same time.

[Mitch Morse]

Oh, that's a really interesting question. It's. I Mean, I can bore your ass off with a 30 minute thing about this thing, but I'll give you the kind of. The quick synopsis of this is that like each play, whether it's a runner, plat run or pass rather has a preordained like set of things that need to be discussed about and need to be relayed information. Right now the quarterback's going to do 80% of that and he's going to have final say on whatever. But as a center or whoever in the offensive line's job is to identify the certain things for a run. Could be like if it's a, if it's a base front or a, or, or a sub front and maybe the mike linebacker if it's a pass. You got to go through all sorts of things as a five or six man drop. Yes. I mean dude, it's time on task, thousands of reps. You take care of walkthrough reps as use those as game reps. It's all the cliche coach BS is it reigns true. Like you just got to get time on task and then in the end you just kind of work through that and figure it out.

[Kevin]

If the quarterback is yelling though and he's changing, he's calling protect, change of protection for some reason. Are you waiting for him to finish before you start telling your guys what's up?

[Mitch Morse]

Yeah, you shut your mouth, dude. You shut your, you shut your mouth and listen to what the quarterback has to say because no matter what happens, that's the dude who has to have full reign of what's going on. And then also what he's saying could determine if I have to change what I'm saying. Like it's just a beautiful dance you do between the two and it's fun to see when that thing's going, you kind of get in that flow. State worth communication and execution. It's. It was beautiful, man.

[Kevin]

Which quarterback did you have best early chemistry with?

[Mitch Morse]

When I got with Alex Smith, he was year 12 or 13, I was a rookie and I was just swimming out there. I was trying my best. But he had the most grasp of what it took at the time to be a professional. Had done it for 13 years. Really carried me along to be a pro. You know, Pat was interesting because he stepped in and it was just, just electricity from the jump. He knew exactly what he wanted. And then Josh was the same. I mean, I think there's more similarities than difference. And then by the time that I got to Trevor, I'd kind of done the inverse of What I had done with Alex, which was I was the older guy and Trevor's going into year four, so that was an interesting dynamic as well. But I would probably say Alex, just because he was, you know, he was not on a father figure is a weird, wild way to say that. But he was definitely the big brother in that instance and really kind of guided me and held my hand through a lot of this stuff that I had no idea what I was doing.

[Kevin]

Would you ever have a quarterback get under center, center be a little too aggressive? Like, they'd push a little too hard on your balls. You'd be like, dude, chill out for a second.

[Mitch Morse]

It's a great question. No, I. I appreciated that you always wanted to know where they were. You want knuckle to taint, but now the truth is, you'd like. So I'd had a bunch of elbow stuff and surgeries. And so as my. As the years progressed, you know, under center, usually you want to put that middle knuckle right on that taint. But I couldn't really do my full pronation or supination. Whatever you want to call. Call it souvenation. Pronation. Sorry. When I'd snap it. So like, by the. By the end of my career when I got to Trevor, I'm like, dude, put your hand on my left adductor or my left groin, because this thing's getting there. It's. No. You want to know? I'd rather be almost lift. Lifted off the ground by a quarterback than not knowing where they are.

[Kevin]

If you're running all shotgun. And I'm sure, you know, during your career, you had times where you were shotgun way more than the quarterback under center. Would you have to look back constantly to see where they were, or could you just blind snap it?

[Mitch Morse]

Yeah, you had to blind snap it. I mean, yeah, that's one of those things when you do hundreds of thousands of reps, you know, you. Hopefully I'll never be able to lose that. Right? Like, I mean, sometimes you. Like early in your career when you don't remember if it's gun or under, but if you. This is going to be weirdly technical and boring, but you got to also understand, like, you don't want to change the way you hold the ball from how you snap it under center to how you snap it shotgun. So I had to make that change because there's nothing worse than from like a play that shifts from gun to under, where you're like, messing with the ball and I have these little Whopper Burger Jr. Hands in general so it's like really already hard to kind of hold the ball now. You just kind of throw that thing back there and let it fly.

[Kevin]

Are there times where you would miss, snap it, or a bad snap, but you wouldn't know because you weren't looking. But you just have to, like, tell by everybody what's happening around you.

[Mitch Morse]

Sometimes you know that everything just slid. But, yeah, usually you hear the fans real excited, fast. I'm like, there's no way they got to the quarterback that fast. Or if you're playing at home, you hear this just guttural 72, 000 people holding their breath usually, you know, and then the defense is screaming ball, and they're kind of doing this weird dick dance around the ball because it's just, you know, the defense is weird.

[Mike]

And.

[Mitch Morse]

Yeah, I mean, once a year, you're going to have one. I can think of a few that keep you up at night where you just, oh, dude, there's nothing worse. You'd rather give up 20 sacks and give up one bad, you know, snap. That sucks.

[Kevin]

Who would line up against you that you were like, man, it's gonna be a long day?

[Mitch Morse]

I mean, you want to know how I knew it was time to retire? Whoever was up there, I was like, damn. That's when I knew it was trying to retire. You know, there's. There's different guys you think about in your career. There's the anomaly, the guy who, when you're asked this question, you remove from the factor because it's just not fair, which is Aaron Bob Donald. I mean, he was such a generational talent, maybe one of the greatest, if not the greatest defensive player to play it from the three technique position. That being said, I mean, in the. In the AFC south, right where you guys are, Jeffrey Simmons is a profound football player, and he's just angry, which kind of throws another wrench into that. You have a guy, dude, I mean, and also when he got into the league, like, my first start was against Vince Wilfork and J.J. watt. Like, I'm a young puppet and Vince is there, and you're just like, oh, my God, this is the NFL. This is crazy. Yeah. It just depends. There's a ton. There's loads of them. I mean, I got my ass kicked more than I kicked anyone's ass, that's for sure. I don't know how I stuck around that long.

[Kevin]

Some of those guys, they would move around, right? So you would. You would not know where they were lining up. And they would, if they're Moving these guys around, would it be like, oh great, this play. It's freaking Aaron Donald.

[Mitch Morse]

Yeah. Sucks, dude.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mitch Morse]

You pray, you're like, please, you can't break the huddle fast enough and look around and see where this guy's lying. And then like now there's this new deal. These, they have these edge rushers. Like you think of Miles Garrett or Micah Parsons or I mean Rashad Gary did it once or twice, which is like they line up in like a basketball stance over the center and they do this like pretend crossover and then they have this giant two way go and all you think about before the snap is, I cannot give up a sack or this is going to be everywhere all the time. It's going to follow me for the rest of my life. My kids are going to see this one day. Mom's going to see this. Like so. And then like it's. Yeah. I mean you talk about it was easy to retire by then. It was nuts. Yeah, I was, I was done.

[Kevin]

How do you end up going from Austin, Texas to Missouri?

[Mitch Morse]

Oh, I'll tell you how I go from Austin, Texas to Missouri. Well, after growing up listening to 96.7 Kiss FM with Bobby Bones of Lunchbox, Shout out school, shout out to the boys, this has been kind of a full circle moment. Of course, you growing up in Austin, you bleed burnt orange. Orange. And I remember I went to a small little school called St. Michael's right in Barton Creek. I commuted because we didn't have the cheese to live around there. But I remember my coach had brought like, you know, because they little disc CDs back then, they weren't these huddle things or whatever. They bring it into like the coaches clinic for the Texas Longhorns and they give it to Major Applewhite and Major Applewhite looks at my, my thing and he sees where the high school is and throws it in the trash in front of my coach and walks off. And then by then I, I was just cool with whoever wanted to have me. Like so Missouri was the first one to offer. I was like, sick, let's go. And yeah, the tides have changed a little bit. And if I had to do it over again, I'd a thousand percent do it over again because I did enjoy my time in Missouri and Texas stunk cheese while I was there.

[Kevin]

So it was co. Yeah, I hate Texas. I just hate Texas in general. Like I, I'm Arkansas guy and I love Austin, but I hate, I hated the Longhorns.

[Mitch Morse]

Oh man, it's tough. Tough it's tough because the thing is, as much as you love Austin and they get. It's got so much going on for it. The thing that pisses me off is like when Texas, when the Longhorns do well, Austin seems to do well and I wish there was a disconnect because I can't stand them.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I love Austin. It's my favorite city. But I, I hate the long and part of that's just being an Arkansas guy. Who was your head coach when you were at Missouri?

[Mitch Morse]

A guy named Gary Pinkle. He was there for about, I want to say 13 years and before that was a Toledo for a bunch of years. He was Nick Saban's roommate in college and then they were ga gas together and. Yeah, good dude, great guy. Still lives there and kind of we, we hang when we can.

[Kevin]

I have become friends with Barry Odom who came in after. Who, who was what? Defensive coordinator while. Yeah, while you were there.

[Mitch Morse]

When I was there he was actually the lot. No, he was. No, he was a linebackers coach and then went to D.C. at Memphis and then he got the defense according job in Missouri during our bowl game my senior year. So he came out and then he took over as a head coach after. But he's a great guy. You know, he's got his work cut out for him at Purdue, but they got a bunch of good dudes over there.

[Kevin]

Let me ask you one final question. When a backup quarterback comes in referring to what's happening in Denver this weekend, is it up to you to have hey, let's especially mid game, like, all right, calm down, I got you. Like to let them know that you kind of got his back even though he's kind of rushed into this.

[Mitch Morse]

That is so dependent on the player, the relationship you guys have prior. It also depends on what your relationship is and the rest of the team. Like so say I was a year eight or nine guy. Yeah, absolutely. Were you a captain? Do you have a C on your team chest? Is this the kind of guy who already runs pretty hot and the last thing you want to do is get in his face? Not get in his face but like console him because then he's feeling slighted, like a babe. Or is this a guy that you need to love up a little bit because that gets his confidence knowing. So there's just so many factors. That being said, they have a guy named Davis Webb who's kind of a hot ticket name for a head coaching gig here soon. He's the quarterbacks coach there and he is the golden Ticket for the Sean Payton team to go to the Super Bowl. He'll get Jared Sam. Send them right to roll, everybody.

[Kevin]

Check out Monday Mornings with Mitch. How long have you been doing the podcast?

[Mitch Morse]

Oh, man, I'll tell you what it's been about Monday. A few Mondays have passed and it's been a humbling experience. Dude, it's been extremely humbling. A saturated market full of some killers. We love it, we enjoy it. It fills our cup up. We have great conversations. Please come over if you want to. If you don't, you guys, a lot of other things you could be doing. I totally get it, but we'd appreciate.

[Kevin]

Yeah, check out Monday Mornings with Mitch. I recommend you change it to Monday Mornings with Mitch Kelsey that naturally you'll have an audience. Massive. If you just add that to the name, you'll just be another Kelsey.

[Mitch Morse]

Yeah, that's a good point, man. They got the golden goose, dude. They're doing great.

[Kevin]

Follow Mitch. MitchMorrie. Hey, Mitch, thanks for the time, man. Yeah. Everybody go check out Monday Mornings with Mitch and hope you have a great warmth. Freaking weekend as we're in ice over here, just struggling to stay alive.

[Mitch Morse]

Oh, you guys are going to do great. Bring out the skates, boy. Don't get on the road. Please don't get on the road.

[Kevin]

All right, Mitch. Thanks, man. See you later. Good to see you.

[Mitch Morse]

Be good. Take it easy.

[Kevin]

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[Mike]

Patriots 28 to 3 in the Super Bowl.

[Kevin]

No, that's not the biggest.

[Mitch Morse]

Nice.

[Kevin]

Dude. What year were you born?

[Mike]

91.

[Kevin]

Okay. So you'd have been two so. I knew he was lying. 1993.

[Mike]

Oh.

[Kevin]

The Buffalo Bills found themselves trailing 35 to three in the third quarter against the Houston Oilers. Is a Frank Wright game. I was watching at my grandma's. I turned it off and then I turned it back on and saw the end.

[Eddie]

You really did. You remember watching that?

[Kevin]

Yep. I remember not watching all of it because it was. The game was over and I was turning the game back on. Wow. And I saw the fourth quarter.

[Mike]

That's good for you to turn it back on. In that day and age before like you, you knew there was a comeback, you know?

[Kevin]

No. The next game was about to come on or I was gonna watch wrestling or something.

[Eddie]

It was like a Noon game.

[Kevin]

Yeah. Yeah. So something else was on and I was like, wow, how about that? Fewest team rushing yards in 1994, the Green Bay packers held Barry Sanders and the Detroit Lions to minus four rushing yards.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Kevin]

Fewest team rushing yards in a win. The Patriots in 2015 put up 14 rushing yards in a 35, 31 win over the Baltimore Ravens.

[Mike]

I'm talking about.

[Eddie]

Remember that?

[Mike]

I was alive for that one.

[Kevin]

Most career wins between the Patriots and Buccaneers. Tom Brady won 38 postseason games. Patrick Mahomes is second with only 17. Wow. So these are all playoff records.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Okay, if I didn't say that, I probably didn't.

[Eddie]

You didn't say that, but did you get that?

[Kevin]

Did you get the.

[Mike]

Talk about the AFC Championship.

[Kevin]

Fewest overall points. In 1970, the Dallas Cowboys took down the Detroit Lions with a score of 5 to 0.

[Eddie]

Wow. There's a safety in there.

[Kevin]

Safety in the field. Thanks, Eddie.

[Eddie]

Damn it. I did the math real quick.

[Kevin]

Biggest margin of victory. This one happened back in 1940 when the Chicago Bears took down the Washington team. Team. They were the Redskins. Then in the playoffs. 73. 0. Oh, my gosh.

[Eddie]

Crazy.

[Kevin]

Most punts. In 1987, the New York jets met Cleveland. It was a double overtime game. The jets punted 14 times.

[Eddie]

Dude, that would be a great pay.

[Mike]

Awful game.

[Eddie]

When you like do the dry. How does the driver's. The driver's old bets. All punts. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Back in 87. Hard to get a cell phone, though.

[Mike]

Your bookie had that one.

[Kevin]

It's hard to get draftkings here. Most seasons without a playoff win?

[Mike]

Most. Are we guessing a number of the team?

[Kevin]

The team.

[Mike]

I'm going to go and it's already.

[Kevin]

I mean.

[Eddie]

The Browns.

[Mike]

I'm going to say the Jets.

[Kevin]

The Browns have won with Baker. The jets are not it since it's the Miami Dolphins.

[Mike]

Oh, wow.

[Kevin]

They have the longest active streak without a playoff win since the year 2000.

[Mike]

Oh, dang.

[Kevin]

That's. Well, sure. The longest ever.

[Eddie]

Wow.

[Kevin]

That is the Cardinals who went 50 years. But the longest current one is.

[Eddie]

50.

[Mitch Morse]

Years before Kurt Warner.

[Eddie]

Is that when they went. That's when they. That's when they were.

[Kevin]

They won with Kurt Warner Super Bowl.

[Mike]

They won a playoff. Game changer. Jake Plumber.

[Kevin]

I was watching the Frank Reich.

[Mike]

That's right.

[Eddie]

That's right. Your grandma's house.

[Kevin]

And most career receiving yards. What wide receiver has it?

[Mike]

Jerry Rice.

[Eddie]

Jerry Rice.

[Kevin]

You're right. Yeah, yeah. 22. 45 receiving yards during his postseason career.

[Mike]

That's crazy.

[Kevin]

There you go.

[Eddie]

All Right.

[Kevin]

Who's going to win game one? Patriots.

[Mike]

Patriots.

[Eddie]

The Pats.

[Kevin]

You obviously think 100. I think if the Patriots win, dude.

[Mitch Morse]

You have to go to the Super Bowl.

[Kevin]

You're already going to be out.

[Eddie]

It's a once in a lifetime deal, dude.

[Mike]

I know guys, you're already there.

[Eddie]

It's a no brainer.

[Kevin]

And you won all that money in our league?

[Eddie]

Yes. Oh, don't remind him. Now he's really going to cancel the trip.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Can you imagine if we won like, you know, 1500 piece? Then I'd be like, yeah, I could go. But yeah, see I got to pay that off. I got realistic.

[Eddie]

How much do you think you'll spend on drinks? Because you. We were like, that was a priority. You're like, man, hotels, alcohol, like it's, it's in.

[Mike]

Okay, first in San Francisco, which is super expensive.

[Eddie]

Yep.

[Mike]

Second, the super bowl weekend, even more expensive. And third, I like to drink alcohol, so it's going to be really expensive.

[Eddie]

That's what I figured. Because you hear what he says, like, man, I'm going to have to spend on hotels, drinks, food. It's like that was second on the list.

[Mike]

Or I could just. Yeah, I could just pregame a lot, but yeah.

[Kevin]

Oh, you're talking about at the stadium.

[Mike]

Both. Really. Both.

[Kevin]

Because you can go to the convenience store and that's what I was just saying.

[Mike]

I guess I can just go to like the 7 11. Not even 7 11, but have you.

[Eddie]

Seen those videos of people trying to smuggle alcohol into like cruises?

[Mike]

I did it once.

[Eddie]

They use like contact solution bottles and all kinds of stuff.

[Kevin]

You can't take alcohol into a cruise.

[Eddie]

That's part of their money making deal.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I didn't know that they were like hardcore about it.

[Eddie]

Now there's just like some videos of like the people being like, I can't bring this on. This is straight vodka. Funny.

[Kevin]

They would go through their contact solutions.

[Eddie]

Yeah, well, there was like, there'd be like something metal detector or whatever would go off and then they'd be in their bags. The video would start with them looking through the bags. I don't know why.

[Kevin]

Are you sure this wasn't like.

[Mike]

AI?

[Kevin]

You get fooled by every.

[Mitch Morse]

Probably.

[Eddie]

Who knows?

[Kevin]

Probably because if you're taking in some contact lens solution bottles this big, you're not really smuggling that much in. If you show up with 10 bottles of contact solution, I think that's a tip off that you're smuggling something in.

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike]

I don't think they. I guess it depends on which One.

[Eddie]

You smuggled on their cruise?

[Mike]

Yeah, just. It was like a six pack of like soda or something and just three or four of them filled up with alcohol. Just re. Tighten it. They don't check that hard.

[Eddie]

We used to do camelbacks, like at music festival.

[Kevin]

Straight.

[Eddie]

Straight vodka in it.

[Kevin]

Because they would allow water. Yes. And they wouldn't check it.

[Eddie]

Yeah, But I think now they're onto that. Now they're probably just.

[Kevin]

But don't you need water?

[Eddie]

You do, but they just like. All you have to do is smell it. This ain't water.

[Kevin]

No, but I'm saying you're going. You buy water while you're there, but you just smuggled in vodka to make.

[Mike]

Yourself buy more water.

[Eddie]

What's your question?

[Mike]

Did one person have a camelback with actual water?

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Did somebody have real water?

[Eddie]

You get water there. They have like water fountains there where you can like, fill up whatever.

[Kevin]

But they allowed the camelbacks.

[Eddie]

But they would never. When we were going music festivals, they would never check them.

[Kevin]

Yeah. All right, well, good story, guys.

[Eddie]

Thank you.

[Mike]

Thank you. Smuggling.

[Kevin]

We may have an ice storm. Big snowstorm this weekend. So we're going to be snowed and hopefully we have. I have phone, cell. So I'll be. To watch the games.

[Eddie]

Yeah, there's that.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

But yeah, there's no power, no games for. On the tv. Tv. And then how are you going to charge? I guess you can go to your car, right. And charge your phone.

[Kevin]

Yeah, it's a good point.

[Eddie]

Yeah. You gotta get gas. Make sure you have portable charger.

[Kevin]

I need to get gas.

[Eddie]

So do I.

[Kevin]

Do we think it's gonna hit, like, predict it now how bad do you think the storm is going to be? Because right now they're saying it's a once in a lifetime snowstorm.

[Mike]

For me, it'll be once in a lifetime just because I've never been through a big one. But yeah, I think so. What are they saying?

[Kevin]

Like 18.

[Mike]

18 to. Well, the numbers are crazy because I'm just trying to like. I don't think it's gonna be as crazy as they're saying, but I do think it's gonna be crazy.

[Kevin]

It's like 6 to 8 inches. But it's the ice that's way worse that's trouble. Because ice knocks out power then.

[Mike]

Yes. And it's Nashville. So we don't like, they don't clear it very quick or.

[Eddie]

I've already driven around and they have like salt. They've salted the roads a lot already.

[Kevin]

As of right now. How bad do you think it's gonna be Eddie?

[Eddie]

I think it's going to be mod, moderate. Like, it's not gonna be as bad as they're saying.

[Kevin]

Will we lose power?

[Eddie]

No, I say we don't lose power. I don't think the whole city will lose power. We'll probably have a few curse. You'll probably see a few. We're like, oh, this. This area of town lost their power.

[Mike]

If you live near Eddie, then good luck.

[Kevin]

You. You zoom out and the only snow and ice is over Eddie's house.

[Eddie]

Then we know it's cursed.

[Kevin]

He's like that Charlie Brown character. Character that has a rain cloud over.

[Eddie]

There the whole time. The sad one.

[Mitch Morse]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

All right, we're out. Thank you, guys. I don't know. We'll see you early next week. Go Patriots.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

For you and also for us.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Because we need to lessen our losses in our league. Other than that, hope you guys have a good, safe weekend. If you get hit by the snowstorm, hope you have plenty of food. And that's it. We'll see you guys on Monday. All right, Blow up, Mike. All right, see you guys. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host at Produce Ready, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin, and executive producer at Mike Diestro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 whistles.

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