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The Bobby Bones Show
25W: Betting Odds on the Next Pope + Two Truths & A Lie: Sports Edition + WWE Triple Threat Champion Seth Rollins
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Bobby Bones
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This is a podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking sports. And they all wear a whistle yet stupid. But what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles. Hey, welcome to the show. Eddie. Blow it. Thank you. And the NBA playoffs are happening and also the drafts coming up. But we'll start with what everybody wants. The pope odds. Oh, yes, of course. We have the odds to be the next Pope. Is that on DraftKings? No, you can't. You have to go all. You don't. You really can't. Yeah, it's like. But they do have odds. Like, my dad had a bookie and I did look on DraftKings and wasn't there. Yeah, probably better. Because I think if you have this listed, you go to hell. I think if you just list it, you go to hell. So Pope Francis died at the age of 88 earlier this week. And obviously people are like, who's the next pope going to be? But none of us actually know who these people are. That's the best part. It's like betting on the cricket championships. We're like, well, kind of. I mean, we're somewhat familiar with the game, but we don't know any of the players. Anybody here Catholic? I was raised Catholic. Yeah. Raised Catholic. Okay. So we're somewhat familiar with it. So family. According to Vegas and Mason Powell of AHCG Sports on TikTok, the betting odds for the next pope are out. Here he is talking about how the process happens, where they elect the next pope, and why Vegas doesn't think a new pope will be elected this year at all, even though in the next few weeks they'll be together, starting to vote. The first thing that we need to talk about is the fact that Vegas doesn't think that there will be a new Pope elected in 2025 as they give it -200 odds that there won't be a new one. The reason for that is because 2/3 of all cardinals need to agree on a Pope getting two thirds of people to agree on Anything is nearly impossible. This is also kind of crazy considering the fact that within 15 to 20 days the cardinals are going to start voting. So imagine that in three weeks they're going to start voting. But Vegas puts the odds of no minus 200 this year. Wow, that's O.J. simpson type sequestering. Like when the jury's just in there for months. So I think at some point too they have to be like, fine, I'll vote for Johnny. Because they're just tired of being there for months and months. Okay. It's like a hung jury, Frank. You can have it. How much credibility does Vegas have though here? Like, I know Vegas knows a lot about sports, but the Vatican, like, do they have an insider at the Vatican? I think Shams calls in from the Vatican. They have a dude in there and lets them know the Vatican Shams. So this is Mason talking about the top four candidates according to Vegas. First off, we have Luis Antonio Tegel who has even odds right now and he is seen as the Asian version of Pope Francis. Essentially he is going to be a continuation of Pope Francis if he were to become the next Pope. Next up we have Pietro Perlin, who is the Secretary of State to the Vatican. He has plus 150 odds. The Secretary of State State essentially is second in line to the Pope in the Vatican. However, the Secretary of State for the Vatican has not been elected Pope since the 1930s. Next up we have Mark Oet, who is plus 500 odds. I will say though, I don't like this bet. 80 year old pope gotta get a little younger. Now the moment you've all been waiting for, a potential black Pope. Obviously there's never been a black Pope before. And the guy who has the best odds is from Dolan and Bongo Bazungu. Hopefully I didn't completely butcher that name. Good thing if he's elected Pope, he will acquire a new name because that is going to be a mouthful either way. Very conservative potential Pope from Africa. Yeah, to be like Pope Jean instead of Fredolin and Bongo Bazungu. Yeah. I hope Pope's not white. We've got a lot of white Popes even though they haven't been white. Like the last Pope wasn't white. He was South American. Still light components, but light. Yeah, they all kind of look the same white because there's Hispanic and then there's non white Hispanic or something. I don't know. I just don't know the boxes. It's like, check this, are you white, Are you Hispanic, are you non? White, Hispanic. Are you a Pope? There's all these. So what about the Asian one, though? That's interesting. Yeah, I hope. Luis Antonio Tegel, the Asian Pope. Or Fridolin and Bongo Buzungu. Like, I'm really rooting for people that aren't white to do this. I really. White people have had their moment. Well, let's move on. But I don't see the Catholic Church changing things really. Like, they don't. That's not their thing to change things. Their thing is to keep things the way they've been since the very beginning. It takes a lot of time. Yeah, I'm still rooting for the non whites. Yeah. I'm not rooting for my own team here. I'm really. I've switched sides. I've turned heel. I'm voting for anti white. So. And then here's the final clip here. This is him talking about his favorite. This is so ridiculous that we're talking about betting odds on the Pope. It's funny. Go ahead. Last and certainly not least, we have who I think is going to be the next Pope, and that is Peter Erdo at plus 800 odds. How the papacy usually works is that you have a liberal pope and then it shifts to a conservative pope. Peter Erdl fits that mold. He is from Hungaria, which is actually very good considering the Europeans usually have a lot of sway during papal elections. And he is also the sort of Pope, because of his conservative background, who could unite with Africa. I could see him winning the two thirds just by getting all of Europe and all of Africa. So there you go. He thinks that this guy doesn't know. He doesn't know anything. He sounds like it, though. Does he sound legit? That's your insider there. Insider. I just feel like if you're putting up pope odds, that's a quick trip to where you don't want to go. And then, and then you were telling me that shouldn't be gambling. They don't mix. Yeah, you don't do that. I love gambling, but also, I'm not running for head of the Catholic Church. What were you saying? So, like the whole process, right, like the black smoke, white smoke. Yeah. So what is that? So they will come together and they will vote at the end of every day, every couple days, whatever the time is. And if it's not 2/3, they send a sign out through the chimney of black smoke if they do not have an answer. Not if there's a white Pope or black pope. That'd be hilarious. That would be the Funniest if they're like, yeah, it's white smoke again. It looks like Bazunga won the black smoke. No, black smoke means they haven't reached the decision. And white smoke means they have reached a decision. And then the new pope then walks out. Not right then, but yeah. Is it, Matt, like, are they burning something different or is it like a smoke bomb? You probably don't have that answer. Well, Mike, because they do this. I believe they burned the ballots. They. So they burn the ballots. But there's also something they burn differently whenever I think there's something in the burning, though, to make sure it's black and white. Okay. They do burn the ballast to make sure nobody ever looks at them because those disappear forever. Yeah. Because they got a double check. Right. Unless you could get like a game used and put it in a card. Get that one of one. Get that grade or one of 12. Yeah. Get that graded. Topic needs to get on it graded. So, yeah, they mix it with some kind of tariff. And that's the black smoke. Yeah. Makes sense. There you go. So we're. We're gonna see what happens. All right. With Pope. Okay. A couple things. One, you do not get to claim that you're calling it if you're picking the favorite twin the whole tournament. What do you mean? The playoffs happening. Oklahoma City's big favorite. Oklahoma. I'm calling it right now. That's not calling it. If you're picking the team that was already favored. Yeah, but, like, they still. I mean, they're not guaranteed to win a long ways. No. Okay. So Eddie goes earlier. I'm calling it. Oklahoma City's gonna. I'm like, that doesn't deserve what I'm calling it. Calling it Oklahoma City' favorite to win. It's like, put it down in writing. I'm telling you, OKC will win the whole thing. I'm telling you today. Okay. Or you'll do what? Oh, do you want to do? Here we go. Because I don't think you can yell. I'm calling it. With the bravado he has. And it be the favorite. Yeah. Are you calling it? No, but I think Oklahoma City or Boston wins it. But I'm not yelling either. One of those teams wouldn't be calling it. Kevin's at a Celtics at today y. Because those are the two teams expected to come from either side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ok. OKC has had the best record by far all year. If I were to have to put money on it, I want OKC to win because my family all massive Thunder fans have a friendish that plays for Thunder. I want them to win, but I would bet Boston to win if I were just betting. Smart man. Experience. Jaylen Brown's knee. Yeah. He looked all right, though. I agree. So I think that that factors in. But I would bet on Boston. They've been there, and they're extremely talented. So it's both. They have experience, and they. The guys are still good and young. Yeah. Injury. Porzingis is fine. He gets hurt every five minutes, but for now. Yeah, but you don't get to claim. I'm calling it if you're picking the favorite. No, no. If you guys can come up with a good, like, prize slash punishment, I might play that game. Wait, a prize? Yeah. Like, I don't want to root against you, though. Okay, that's fair. So you're my friend. I'm calling it means you've declared it. You don't win anything. I just call if you're calling it boldly. Your win is. We get to accept that you called it. That's your win. But your loss is not much of a win. But it does look cool when you call it, like, way early. But then again, like you said, it's a favorite. Your loss is. You have to wear a lady's thong under your pants for the two episodes of the week. What do you mean, under my pants? Like, as under as underwear, but it's gotta be sticking out. What's he doing right now, though? You gotta fishtail it. So I gotta bend over in places. You gotta show us. Yeah. Or I just. I can't. That's it. I might sign on to that. No, it's not. I might. Come on. Because we. I thought you're calling it. I'll call it. Okay. I'll call it. And if they don't. If they don't win for both episodes. Give me the thong. You'll be wearing a thong? Yes. For a week? Well, for the two episodes we do here. Okay, perfect. You'll get into it, and it's gross. He's like. He's like. For a month. I forget to take it off. A whole year. You want me to do it for you? All right. All of 20. 25. Okay. I guess I'll do it the rest of my life. Okay. So Eddie called it. Called it. But now we'll respect it. Hey, man. Wow. Good for you. Called it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I shouldn't have a crown or something. Like, I called it. Yeah. Good for you, man. So did everybody else. But we will respect it now. Because if you lose a call, you have to pay the punishment. Got it. An update. And I texted Bill Self, the head basketball coach of Kansas. So rewind. One of his attorneys listens to the show and was like, hey, why don't you guys ever go to Kansas, basically? And I said, well, we've been everywhere else, but Kansas was kind of one of the schools that we couldn't get any feedback from. And he's like, well, I know Bill Self. I work with him. I'll ask him. He does. He messages me and goes, here's Bill's number. Text him. And so I'm like, all right. I didn't. I was nervous about what do you text them? Hey, Bill. Yeah, hey, Willie. Me, Bobby. What's up, Willie? I know you're Portland right now. Thought I'd say, what's up? And so I wait like, a week, and I text Bill Self, and I'm like, hey, we'd love to come up. That's basically. I was like, hey. Did you say, hey, Bill? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can find it. I didn't save his name on my phone, so I have to search the message. And why didn't you save his name? Because I don't ever want to have it on my phone and call him or I don't get drunk. But if I do ever get drunk, I'm afraid I call Bill. Sally, because you don't drink. So here's my message to him. I'll read it exactly. Hey, Bill, Bobby Bones here. I do a national radio show. Was talking with Blank, one of your attorneys. He said, reach out. We travel all around and talk with coaches, shoot around the facility, etc. Would love to come up to Lawrence this summer. Won't make this text too long. Hope you're well. It's nice. Perfect. It's fine, right? Like, what if it was stalkery? And I sent that on April 10, 12 days ago. No response. Oh, my goodness. And I'm sure he doesn't have red receipts on that, does he? No. Delivered only. Delivered, yeah, delivered only. So, well, he's thinking. He's thinking on it, weighing it. Just kind of like, you know, saying, like, ah, let me see. Maybe doing his research, either we can go and, like, spend time getting kids out of the portal. I can respond to Bobby. Good point. One of the busy. So I. I don't have a response. And if he doesn't respond, all good and circling back here. Do I say that? Yeah. Oh, I hate to circle back, but to be fair, sometimes people circle back with me and I have literally forgot to text back and I'm so happy they did, but I hate being circling back guy. Could you just double tap your original message with a question mark? That's passive aggressive. That's too much. He's like, what the. That's passive. That's balls. Did you get. That's legit, though. That is legit. Legit, but that's ballsy. Is it a question mark or exclamation mark, question mark or I just switch it? Question mark hour, exclamation mark. Yeah. Heart hour. I just keep popping them over. Yeah. With all those. Yeah, that's ballsy. Okay, well, I got a lot today. Anybody but me. Watch WrestleMania. I did. I love. Casey did. Thank God. I did so good. Mike did. Yeah, I knew Mike did. Usual suspects. Yeah, you guys, you're just missing out. You need. That triple threat match from the first day was like so epic. You guys need to have kayfabe. You know, it is roll. What does that mean? Kayfabe. Look it up because then you'll remember it and you can explain it to the room that doesn't know what kayfab is. K, A, Y, F, A, B, E. It was. I thought Wrestlemania. It's because Wrestlemania is the biggest wrestling event of the year, period. It's two nights and it was in Vegas and it was over 60,000 each night. One Saturday night, one Sunday night, two night WrestleMania. I don't love it that it's two nights, honestly. But I do understand why it's two nights because people will be there and show up and I'll watch both nights. And it was sold out and it was. Yeah, yeah. So I get it. The triple threat match was awesome. I know we're a couple days behind, but we can talk about it Yesterday. We didn't do a show yesterday because there was a personal issue with someone on the show and so we weren't able to record. That being said, the. Because Seth Rollins was on our show. Yeah, we should play that at the end. We should play that again. Mike, can we get that on? Yeah. So Seth Rollins ends up winning the triple threat match against Roman Reigns and CM Punk. Who? I think CM Punk is now my new favorite. He's been around forever. That cult of personality entrance was awesome. Live band. Yeah. I just want him to win a title before he goes away. And I didn't spend a lot of time with him because I got out of wrestling for when he really came on. Yeah. But he like wanted to main event Wrestlemania finally got it. He lost and he lost the Royal Rumble. Like, I really am pulling for CM Punk. Yeah. And he's older. He was betrayed by Heyman again. Man, I don't know how old CM Punk is. I bet he's got to be in his 40s. What'd you find out about Kayfabe, Betty? Kayfabe? It's the practice of maintaining the illusion that matches, characters and storylines are real, even though they are scripted and staged. And you can talk about that. There's a creative team writing the stories we talked about with Shawn Michaels. And I think I was thinking about that Shawn Michaels interview because we didn't ask him to stay. Actually, I was ending the interview and he was like, hey, I just want to say that was great. So I'm curious as to what about our interview was different. And he was like, well, you talked about it on both sides and I think you have people that will just be like, well, it's not real. So you know, does it hurt? Then you'll have people that won't even talk about that it's not real and be like, why do you hate him? Where I think because I'm in entertainment and I do music and stand up and radio and write. Like I'm curious about that part of it. Very much so. While also maintaining kayfabe for while it's on. Kayfabe? Is kayfabe an acronym or is that just a made up word? He's more like a verb. Oh, kayfabin. So it's just a word. Okay. Yeah, we have K. I don't know. Maybe it's a. I don't know. That's a good question. But you know what? Like, the more I think about it, because I'm not a wrestling fan, I don't. The last time I watched wrestling. Watched, watched was probably like Hulk Hogan. Wwe. Yeah. Or wwf. But like it's kind of like watching a movie. It's for sure fiction. Right. Except as I get older it makes me more uncomfortable to watch how hard they hit because Fatu is over 300 pounds and he's doing full backflips. 300 pounds, that's heavy. Full back flips off the top rope and landing and. Right. The stories are scripted and they're doing things to make sure they don't get terribly injured. But you can't control all of that because you have 230 plus pound bodies slamming into each other and there are going to be accidents and even the things that aren't accidents still hurt at times. You can just tell. They just have to take the bumps. So it Makes me uncomfortable when they're, like, doing backflips out onto the cement floor. Dude, they're body slamming on the cement floor. That triple threat. They go out into. Into the crowd and they're slamming each other on the floor and. Great, you get your feet down early. That crap still hurts. Yeah. It makes me uncomfortable going, oh, man, I hope somebody does get hurt. I'm a mom now watching, and I'm like, don't get hurt. Worried about their ankles when they're jumping out. Yeah. Oh, man, you could just. Just easily hurt something. In the Charlotte Flair Tiffany Strat match, there's. She chipped a tooth and busted her head. Yeah. I wasn't sure if that was. Yeah, yeah, that was real. Charlotte is Rick's daughter. Yes. Wow, that's cool. And she's like, one of the greats, female wise. So wrestlemania two nights. Thought it was good. I didn't. I did not like how it ended with Cena. I didn't love it, but I did not like it. But they still hold on to the same principles of cheating they did in the 80s. Somebody comes from out under the ring and hits somebody or somebody holds them down. So a lot of that is still there. But they're putting their. They put the trailer up of a new show on Netflix that goes into the writing room. That's cool. Yep. And so. And Triple H is basically running the WWE now, but. And he's head of creative, and Shawn Michaels is the head of, like, nxt. And so all these guys are there, but they go into the writing room and how they create all the storylines for these people, it's the first time they've ever been so open with it. I'm excited about that series. It's called unreal. 10 episodes. Any idea when that comes out? Mike says, summer, okay, that's cool to me because I can do both. I can watch it and just root because I'm watching. Say we're watching a movie or a television show. I root for those people, even though I know it's not real. Right. But this thing is live, and they can really get hurt. Like, they use stuntmen in the shows. They got the actors and then the stuntmen, and then we don't even see when they mess up. This is all live, so if they mess up, we see it, and they're not using stuntmen. So, yeah, it's pretty cool. My wife was, like, watching that play again. I'm like, it's not a play. And then I start to get defensive, even though I don't Even care. It's like it doesn't even. Did she watching any of it with you? No. No. And she doesn't think it's stupid, but she's like, it's all scripted, right? I'm like, yeah, but. And I'll start to talk. And then she's just like, I'm good. She walks away. Yeah. She's like, I'm good. My wife was laughing at me like, I watch anime, I watch some nerdy things, but this she just couldn't get over. She, like, it's fake. Like, why are you watching this? They look so stupid. I'm like, you don't get it. Yeah. It triggers me now when people say fake because of how the real things that they have to do to make the scripted story come true. Yeah. And that. So that. Because what they're doing out there, for the most part, not fake, the hits aren't real. Because also, too, back in the day, even like 10 years ago, they could use camera angles to keep you from seeing the small things you weren't supposed to see. The wrestlers talking to each other. The blood, the kicks not landing. No, not so much blood, really. Why? I mean, they could cut themselves, but they would usually do that underneath. Yeah. Then they would get something in, like a bracelet. Yeah. Oh, they actually cut themselves. Oh, yeah. On the forehead. Yeah. And so now you saw Cena go again. Yeah. And Cody Rhodes punch him again. Again. Now he's not going again. But because there are phones everywhere, they're not really hiding from angles anymore. They're. They're doing it. But they also know. People know. They know people are in kayfabe and they just are like, you guys, you're in with us. So you see Cody Rhodes punch Cena in the championship, and you see the world title match, and you see Cena go again. Boom. Again, boom. And then Cena then comes back again. So, yeah, it's fiction, but it's a very real fiction. Let me ask you this, though. Go ahead. Is it a sport? No, it's sports entertainment because it's scripted. Outcomes are scripted. Because I think that's maybe some people. Wrestling is a sport. Collegiate wrestling is a sport. Yeah. Yeah. You can't be scripted, and it'd be a sport. I think that's where people get a little confused by it. No, there's no confusion. I don't think anybody's confused by it. Because, like, you watch just a ring and people fighting. Right. UFC sport. UFC sport. Not scripted. Boxing sport. Not well rigged, but not scripted. True. But you look at Wrestling. Oh, Guys in a ring. Fighting. Sport. Wait a minute. Nobody thinks sport. Literally nobody thinks sport. And no, because you can't bet on it either. But they are athletes. Absolutely. Absolutely. So our stuntmen. Okay, yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. And golfers, which is weird. We're not arguing that. Eddie's just going down. Eddie's feeling around for the wet spot he's just trying to find. So. Yeah, you guys didn't watch it, but Casey and Mike did. What would you give it over? Mike? What would you grade both nights? Both. I don't like it being two nights. Like, you don't like it being two nights. I would give it a B plus, Casey. I thought it was. It was the best one in recent memory for me, for sure. Great. I just. I love the atmosphere. I'll give it a. I'll give it a nine out of ten. Give it a nine. Because I think the. The scene of fight, if we're doing grades and Mike goes B plus and you go nine out of ten. I'm like, how many miles? He's like, four kilometers. No. All right. A minus. A minus. Got it. Yeah. I'll give it a B plus as well. I thought it was good. It's. They shouldn't do it in Vegas. I understand why they do it in Vegas. It's easy for everybody to get to. But Vegas with events is kind of like Nashville with concerts. Everybody there's kind of jaded because everything around them is just flash and money big. So when other flashy money big things come out there. Yeah. What's really cool now that they do. Because if a match is happening, it kind of sucks. The crowd will let you know it. But what they do now is if stuff. Two guys are killing it and not really giving it their all, like really putting their bodies on the line. And the crowd will just start going, this is awesome. In the middle of a match. That's like the ultimate compliment from a crowd because that means the guys are freaking selling it. Yeah. So, yeah, I can't wait for the series. And I saw. And I'll end with this. I saw Cena on Raw last night. Got rko bombed him last night. Oh, really? Yeah. Came out from under the ring. Yeah. Oh, he's hiding under there. Yeah. Do you know who that is? No. Batista Bomb. No, no. You know, Batista is baseball player. No. Oh. Randy Orton is the wrestler. Okay. And he. The rko, is kind of like the stunner. They're all like. Like the same, but different. Just slightly different. He came out from under the ring. Randy Orton won against Henry Hendry. I believe in Joe Hendry. Clap clap. I don't know any of these guys. I know, dude. And what's Raw? Raw is just a regular fight. No, Raw's Monday night. That's on Netflix. Yes. Okay. That's live. Down with wrestling. Yes. Raw is live. Yeah. When is the next fight? I might give it a shot. It's not a fight. Okay. Match, match event. There is a they, they. I think they call them premiere event. Like again, I'm old with the super lingo. I'm not an expert. Same. Yeah, I am a B fan. Used to be A plus fan. So I'm not even act like the expert. But they call them like they're not even pay per views anymore. But you can watch them on Peacock. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. And so the next one is called like eating gibberish or something. I forget what it's called. I remember they got one coming up. They got one coming up. Okay. Done with that wrestling. Got that covered. Got Bill Self covered. Okay. We're do draft for a second. I got a game for the draft too by the way. Eddie, who do you want the Cowboys to draft? What do you got? 12? Yeah, 12. I would like for like you, Genti to fall in her lap. Maybe trade up for him. I don't know. I don't think we have anything else to trade really. Like maybe a trade. Don't trade. Who do you want at 12? Do you want a running back? Yeah, I think our running backs are key position, I think. Oh yeah, your running back room's terrible. Yep. I think he'll probably be drafted before that. Yeah, but then scatter. Boo then. But I mean the Hampton, the kid in North Carolina. North Carolina is awesome too. You went scatter. Boo. I'm just joking. Eddie wants a white running back like I want a black pope. Scatter is crazy though, dude. Yeah, he's crazy. Isn't you right about that. I'm going to do a draft game in a second. But first, the NBA 82 game grind is done. Now the real fun begins. The NBA playoffs are here and it's time for all the high stakes drama, clutch moments, jaw dropping plays. Can't wait. It's been awesome so far. If you're looking to make the playoffs Even more exciting, DraftKings sportsbook has you covered as an official sports betting partner of the NBA. Try placing a bet on your favorite player's performance. Will they drop 30 points, 40 points or more? It is your call. And if you're new. 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Parenting, you got teen boys. This is like the black diamond of parenting. And of course, I don't think so, honey. Horror movies. Okay, okay. Amy Poehler is on las cold culture. The latest episode drops Wednesday. Listen to Las culturistas on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. All right, we're back. We do have Joe Flacco on Monday's oh episode. Nice. Yes, as of now, I did see where that was confirmed. Do you guys get the confirmation yet? Not yet. Then it's only semi confirmed because it's never fully confirmed until it goes to you guys and we time it. But we should have Joe Flacco coming up. That's awesome. Which is cool. Here's the game. I'm going to give you a player and tell you when they were drafted and what team they were drafted to and give you a little bit about them and you tell me if it was a real player or a fake player. Oh, I love this. All right, Eddie, you're up first. All right. And for the most part, these will either be players that kind of busted who we won't know their names because I can't give you Sam Bradford. Yeah, you're going to know that. Right? So but some of these busts or some of the guys that only are like second string guys, the occasional starter, we don't remember. It's like basketball. You look back seven years ago at the draft. Yeah. Half the guys won the first round. You don't even remember remember them. Yeah. Up first. Jarvis Jefferson, wide receiver, Clemson, in 2009. He went round two to the Carolina Panthers. Jarvis Jefferson ran a 4.33 40 at the combine. They compared him to Steve Smith, but he had character concerns and a limited route tree. Jarvis Jefferson, wide receiver, Clemson. Real or fake? Dude? I remember when he was drafted like it was yesterday. And Jarvis is 100% real. Jarvis is fake. No record. No record of Jarvis Jefferson in College for the NJ's, man. No, but that is a fast name. Dang. Jarvis Jefferson. Yeah, for the Panthers. That's a cool name. I was thinking Justin Jefferson. I was like, okay, well, that's why I did that. I made it. I made a Jarvis Land Panthers select Jarvis Jefferson. Lamar Chase. So close, Reed. Oh, yeah, here we go. And everybody just. If you know it, just everybody be quiet. If you don't know it, everybody be quiet. I don't want to put read onto anything. Reed, you ready? I'm ready. Achilles smith, quarterback, Oregon, 1999 Achilles Smith, third overall pick. Round one for the Cincinnati Bengals. Big arm, explosive at Oregon, but started only 17 games in his NFL career. And Akeli Smith was actually drafted over Ricky Williams, Edron James, and Champ Bailey. Wow. I feel like Achilles is, like, almost too wild to not be Achilles. His name's not Achilles. It's not Achilles. It's Achilles. Not the Greek God Achillesmith. Oh, it's not Achilles. It's not Achilles. Singular tendon. Achilles Smith, Quarterback, Oregon. Achilles Smith. Yeah, that's. Yeah, for sure. That's a dude right there. That's a real man. Eddie, what do you think? I think false. Are you serious? Yeah. This is like one of the biggest draft busts of all time. It's real. Let's go. Keely's real. Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's a real one. I don't remember that dude. Again, draft him over. Ricky Williams, Edan James, and Champ Bailey. It is one of the most painful misses in Bengals history. He's a quarterback. He was. Dang. I know. You knew that one. I didn't know he went to Oregon, though. I did not know that. But you knew. But I knew. Yeah. Brandon, did you know that one? I didn't know that. Okay. Okay. Good for being. Look at Brandon being honest with you. He could have easily said yes. Yeah, of course, Casey. All right, let's do this. Darnell Hastings, Cornerback, Nebraska, in 2006, round one to the new York Jets. That's your team. I personally put this here. He was a shutdown corner in college, known for his trash talk and risky play style. Darnell hastings, cornerback, Nebraska, 2006. I'm gonna say that he is not a real person. You do not remember him? I do not remember him. Correct. I'm a real fan, baby. I gave him jets on purpose to. To make him think. Possibly a little tight butthole. That name sounds familiar, though. Lamar Chase. Yeah, Kevin. Let's go. Sheldon Hines, defensive end, Mississippi State in 2011. Sheldon Hines was drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars. He was an underside edge rusher with a quick first step. He had a standout combine, missed his pro day, wasn't expected to go as high, but because his combine stats were so high, went in the third round. Sheldon Hines, defensive end, Mississippi State, 2011, third round to the Jag. Who'd you say? Jaguars. Oh, man. Do we remember anybody the Jaguars drafted? I know. Don't be disrespectful. I'm gonna go with that. Is not a real person. You're going fake on Sheldon Hines. Fake on Sheldon Hines. Sheldon Hines is really fake. Mr. Hines. The Jaguars is where you throw it off. Brandon Ray, the singer of our theme song. Vernon Golst, defensive end, Ohio State in 2008, first round, sixth overall pick, new York Jets. Freakish strength, very fast. Did 37 reps of 225 on bench. Had no sacks in three seasons, though. Vernon Golston. Brandon. I have Vernon Golston's rookie card. That is a real person. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Good. Let's go. One of the most famous combine warriors ever, but never registered a single sack in the NFL. Thanks, Grandma. Who got theirs right? Me, Brandon, everybody. I'm gonna go back to you have one more. Jarvis Jefferson got me Jarvis. Well, I did seven for seven rounds. You have to get this so you don't get drafted. They all get drafted. Oh, no. Yeah. Or I go to selling cars. Yeah. Our coaching. Yeah. Insurance. Keelan Monroe, Linebacker, USC, 2012, Round 2, Tennessee Titans. Oh, he was a sideline to sideline athlete. Known for special teams hustle. Played a lot of special teams, but really didn't mature past that. Some teams question his football IQ. Keelan Monroe, linebacker, USC, 2012, round two, Tennessee Titans. Real or fake? And poor Keelan, no IQ. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say Keelan's fake. Man, you're making that up. Is he real? Please be real. Please. You guys know him? Does anybody want to vouch for Keelin Monroe? No. Remember him like it was yesterday? No rookie cards out there. Keelan Monroe. Come on. Fake. Yay. I'm going to the draft, baby. Keelan Monroe does not exist. Never played usc, never drafted. Dang. So he did have good iq. He had no iq, Eddie. Zero. Hey, did you come up with these? Yeah. That's really good, man. I tried and I purposely went Titans on Eddie. I gave you guys ones. I gave Reed the easiest one because I knew he knew the least about sports. I love it. I love it. Kelly Smith's one of the bigger busts ever. I mean, Ryan Lee, probably. Probably the biggest bust ever. Really? Yeah. And football, probably. Now, jamarcus Russell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because jamarcus Russell went number one. Leaf went after Peyton Manning. Yeah, that always helps. Before Peyton Manning or no. Did he go before? I know Charles Woodson beat Peyton Manning. Okay, okay. Never mind. But the. Peyton lost the Heisman. That's what it was. That's what it was. And then a Kelly Smith was a bad one. And I was a Bengals fan. That's a bad one. Okay. Good job. You like that? That was fun. Yeah, that's fun. Just glad I got to go, man. I thought it was Achilles. You did? Yeah. Reed was like logicing Achilles. Well, if his name's Achilles, you're probably a lying. The draft will be fun. We kind of know. We for sure know number one, Cam Ward will go number one to the Titans. We pretty much know number two, Travis Hunter almost certainly will go number two to the Browns. The Giants are sitting at three. That's kind of when it starts. I mean, I do think that the Giants are again, even though they don't need defense, I think they're probably going to go defense. But the Giants also could trade that pick as well. Yeah. I think they're starting to field some calls. I do too. Yeah. So I think what everybody kind of wants to know is where is should our Sanders gonna go? I think that's the question. And two, where is Genti gonna go? Like when's the first running back going to be picked? That's kind of whatever. Yeah. Other than that, we're just like. Well, we're just along for the ride, but we're kind of wondering, will Shedeur go to the saints at 9? I don't have my notes up. So Saints are at 9 and the Saints haven't drafted a quarterback in the first round since Drew Arch Manning. Oh, wow. Long ago. Yeah. 50 years. Yeah. So explains a lot if he doesn't go because. Because Breeze, I believe no notes here was around two pick. Well, and he started Chargers. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But I still believe he was around 2 pick even if he. Yeah. So you may fact check me on that before I get a listener yelling at me because I could be wrong about that. Yeah. Worst shooter are going to go probably to the Saints. The Steelers would like to have a quarterback because we're still waiting on Aaron Rodgers. What do you got? It says round two, 32nd overall. So that was before the Texans maybe. Were his team probably first pick a second round. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. I love being right there. I wasn't for sure. I was right on the edge. I'm on the edge. So, yeah, where Genti goes, it'd be fun. If it went to the Cowboys. That'd be great. And then Worshider goes, I think the Steelers will try to trade up if. If the Saints don't take them unless they can get up to an 8 or a 7 because they're in the 20s. Steele's like 21. Yeah, that'll take a lot. That would take a lot. But what's Aaron Rodgers gonna do? And now I'm not saying Aaron Rodgers is lying. I would like to say I'm not saying Aaron Rodgers is lying, but it's always something with Aaron Rodgers. And now the whole thing is Aaron Rodgers hasn't picked a team because he has stuff in his personal life going on. It's not that I don't believe him and it's not that people don't have personal stuff going on, but when someone jerks you all directions all the years, you start to question, am I being jerked again? It's kind of a weird question. You can't trust him for sure. Right. So I don't know that the Steelers are offering him that job. We don't know. We know the jets said no thanks. And everybody got all mad at the Jets. I'll stand up for your team here, Casey. Yeah, thank you. Please do. Aaron Rodgers goes on McAfee. And I was like, you know, I flew over and was in there for like five minutes and they were like, yeah, we're gonna move on. Basically. Paraphrase what he said. Yeah. Imagine though, if they had just called him or emailed him and said, hey man, we're gonna cut you. Then it had been like, man, the jets suck way worse. Yeah, the jets are losers. They can't even tell you to your face. Yeah. So it was kind of a no win. Oh, yeah. Especially just cause it's the Jets. But we. I know that that's not how it went down. You know, I know deep down. Wait, you're saying Aaron Rodgers didn't tell the full truth about the truth of how we got. He knows someone in there. I think he knows Aaron Rodgers. I know a guy. Who do you. What do you guys want to do for the draft? Yeah, you know, they're just like Tyler Warren is what we're going to. Who we're going to pick. I want Mason Graham though, but I don't think we're going to get him because I think Jacksonville is going to scoop them up. Mason Graham was awesome. Yeah. So. But there's some quarterback talk should door. Right. That would be the most Jet thing to do. I feel like get chador at seven, even though I feel like we need so many other things right now. But don't you need. But if you get a good quarterback, isn't that the hardest? That's why Cam Ord is going one. He is not the best player in the draft. He's not even what they would call a blue chip. I don't know what you call like a drafted one of the guys, like an Andy Luck or a Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, he's not. He's not even that like a cornerstone franchise player. He's a good quarterback. I think everybody that I'm reading that he's comped with was Bo Nix, like, if he didn't come out last year and Bo Nix was in, was the last quarterback in the first round selected. But it's that hard to get a good quarterback that if you have a shot to get a good quarterback, good quarterback, you take them when you can. Yeah, I don't know. I just. I don't know. I'm just not completely sold on Shador. So I kind of would hope that they would bolster the team in other places first. Well. And is field's going to be enough for the Jets? Is field's going to be enough? I don't know. Yeah. It just seems like with the Field signing, I think the jets just want to focus on the team around them and just use him as a bridge. I would say the most jets thing ever to happen would be that they don't draft Shadur and he's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Well. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's. It's a. They dropped a corner. That is a busy milliner on Alabama. Yeah, exactly. So we'll wait on Aaron Rodgers, I guess. But he's. If Pittsburgh ends up taking a quarterback, does he then just wait and see who gets hurt or who needs a quarterback? Someone always gets hurt, right? Yeah, but I'm kind of over it. Yet I still talk about it a little bit. Can't help it. But he wasn't lead story. No, true. Yeah. The Pope was. The Pope was leading. Right. Never forget making hedge bets on the Pope. Yeah, never forget. So the Tennessee UCLA story is hilarious because they basically traded quarterbacks wild. So, okay, Nico goes, all right, I need more money. They go, we're not going to pay you more money. That's completely fair to do because it is allowed. There was nothing illegal about what happened. That is business turns out probably going to be a bad business move for Nico. Again, these numbers, when they give nil numbers, I can tell you from experience, they are so inflated just because one, I've been involved in some nil deals. I've done some nil deals, just myself and I have been on the outside of people who are doing big nil deals and actually know what's really happening versus what's reported. The numbers are wildly inflated most of the time. So they're saying Nico was making a little over 2 million at Tennessee. But also Nico went there only because of money. So why is everyone so surprised that he left because of money? Like he literally only went there because of money. He's a five star kid, may have even reclassified and went there because they offered him the most money. So why are you surprised that he's leaving when he can get more money somewhere else in his mind, in his dad's mind, his advisor's mind, he goes to UCLA and supposedly they're giving him 1.5 million. Now that's less than 2.25 million, right, everybody? That's less. Yes. And then when taxes hit in California, because there is no. Yeah, so 10 grand, that that is down. So he's going to be making less money. UCLA also is not going to be good. Is there more opportunity there for other nil cities in Southern California? Possibly. But if he's not, if the team's not good, people aren't going to be throwing money at him to advertise their car wash and they're not going to renegotiate his deal until next year until it comes up again. But what's funny is he goes to ucla, which I think we figured it was. I was going to say I called it like Eddie did, but I think everybody kind of knew he was going west coast. There was talk about Tulane, there was talk about North Carolina for a while with, with Belichick. I felt like he was going to go to USC or ucla. That's where he's from anyway. So, yeah, he goes to ucla. So they have to then tell their quarterback who they have as their starter. We got him coming in, so you probably should just portal it up. And so he does, and now he's going to Tennessee. It's like the wife swap. Yeah. Who is that? Joey Aguilar. But if you're Tennessee, you got the lesser of the two because they ran off that guy for that guy. Not saying he'll perform lesser next year, but in a vacuum, you got the lesser of the two quarterbacks, as felt by the UCLA staff. Because if Nico's coming in and they felt like aguilar was better, one, they'd have never went after Nico and offered him $1.5 million and two, they wouldn't told Aguilar he's coming in. He's going to be the guy. And he just got there four months ago. Yeah, just transferred in. The good thing about the Spring portal is you can't. If you're in the sec, you can't transfer to another SEC school. Like Nico couldn't go to Arkansas. However, Nico's little brother flipped last year from UCLA to Arkansas and enrolled. He was to be a freshman. Just transferred out back to ucla. Maybe back to UCLA with his brother. Really? That can be confusing with their last names on the back. Yeah, different numbers and first letter. But also it was crazy that he went to Arkansas. And I was like, why is he going to Arkansas? Because we didn't offer him a ton of money. It's random. It was random. And he was. I think he was a three star in some services. I don't think he was a four star kid. I think he was a three star kid that was like borderline four. And he went to Arkansas, flipped from ucla. They were like, big get. I was like, well, he's not playing this year because we have a quarterback at Arkansas. Taylor Green is going to be good. I don't know if he's gonna be great because I don't know that he has weapons around him to allow him to be great. Because you need weapons to be great. You can be good pretty much by yourself. But I was like, why is he going there when I offer a bunch of money? And then when his brother transferred out, everybody's like, oh great, now we gotta deal with his dad. And he just went and jumped. It's. Yeah, it's like a reality show. Yeah. And I need it to get crazier because it ain't gonna be fixed until it gets way crazier. Yeah. There is no motivation for anybody to step in and fix it with legislation because that's going to be the only thing that actually plugs the dam. You can have conferences agree on certain things, but they're probably still going to be cheating because you can agree to all you want. And if it's a code of ethics, I think we know you may say, yep, we're ethical, but you're probably doing little shady things underneath where if there's legislation you can cheat, but if you cheat there are consequences to getting caught. Yeah. So yeah, we need some legislation. I don't have the answers unless they ask me because then I got all of them. So yeah, that, that's, that's interesting. But it's fun that college football like still Existing. It's non stop. Because it wouldn't be a thing right now. No, it'd kind of just be watching the spring games and be like, ah, I can't wait till August. Spring games are done, by the way. I know spring games are done, but that's okay. Spring games are stupid. Yeah. I mean I never been so I can't act like I'm a big fan. Yeah. Spring is stupid anyway. The best NBA players to never win a championship. Who comes to mind? Eddie first. To never win a championship. Did Iverson win a championship? He did not. He did not. Iverson then. Is that your answer? Yeah. I go, I'd go. I would go Barclay first. It's like he wasn't number one on the list though. I answered the question before I read it. I would have went Charles Barkley. Because the reason I say that is that's always everybody's fight back with Charles at the table. Charles has a great point. You know he won championship. So funny. Charles is like. But I. My opinion has nothing to do. Yeah. With me winning the championship. But you never won a championship, man. You never even know. All you did is never just got to the finals. And then Ernie's like, settle down. And he got settled down. Come on, guys. So because of that. But I would have put Barkley at 1. I think Iverson's great. Anybody else have anybody they want to add to the list? Carl Malone. He didn't win in la, did he? No. Remember they're supposed to be this awesome team. They suck like Gary. Oh no, they made the finals, I think actually. Yeah, but they didn't win though. But they didn't win. Was Nash on that or was Peyton before now? It was before Nash. Gary Payton. Howard. The one. Yeah. Dwight Howard. No, the Steve Nash. Dwight. Got it. Yeah, yeah. Carl Malone. I don't. Was Shaq there? No, I think Shaq was probably in my right after Shaq. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Carl Malone. Okay, so here we go. Anybody else want to add to the list? Reed, you have something? I was going to say Charles. That's my only one. Okay. Brandon, you want to add anybody? I was going to say Stockton. Great one John Stockton never won. Malone didn't win. Stockton didn't win because they only played one season difference. Like they played 18 years together. But Stockton came in one year earlier. Dang. Then what a team. Malone did crazy. So here is the list from Bro Bible. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. There's 11 at number 11, Dominique Wilkins. Hawks. Yeah. Played on 10 different playoff teams. And I remember I watched a lot of Hawks. I love the Hawks. Spud Webb was on the Hawks. Him and Dominique Wilkins and Doc Rivers on that same team. Wow. So I used to watch. And the Hawks were on TBS a lot because Atlanta. So I'd watch a lot of Hawks games. John Stockton at 10, Reggie Miller at 9. I got another one in mind, too. Me too. Who do you got? Patrick Ewan. So he's on the list. Chris Ball. Oh, he didn't make the list, but that's a good one. He's not retired yet, though, so maybe that's why he's still playing. Yeah. Yeah. He's like 53. Yeah. And I don't know if he's gonna stay with. I think his contract's over this year. Right. I think he signed a one year, so. Yeah. 11. Dominique. 10. Stockton, 9. Reggie Miller, 8. Tracy McGrady. What hurt Tracy McGrady, with me and my generation, is there weren't a lot of his games on television. So as good as he was, we didn't get to see him a whole lot because he. He was right before cable started putting a bunch of games on. And Orlando kind of sucked. Yeah. And so they didn't make many national games. Yeah. Until Shaq went there. But even then, it was when Shaq and Penny were together. That's kind of when it started. But the McGrady stuff did. I didn't see him enough to really. I see him now in clips and he's like a little bit of Jason Williams. Yeah. He had an amazing game, but you're totally right. He wasn't exposed enough. Carl Malone. Carl Malone. Yep. Allen Iverson. And now we are into the top five. At number five, Patrick Ewing. 17 seasons, 14 postseason, Patrick Ewing never won a championship. I mean, Michael Jordan kept them from him. Yeah. And then the Rockets, that one year, they actually did make the finals. And Jordan. Akeem Olajuwon. Akeem. Yeah. So it was Jordan and then the one year. Akeem. Yeah, yeah. At four. Vince Carter. That's a good one. I was watching an interview and it was one of the guys from what is the podcast, the all the Smoke podcast. And they were asking, like, who was the closest to Jordan but just didn't put in the work and he was like, Vince Carter, really? They're like, he had it all, like, athletic ability, iq. Yeah. But just, like, wasn't mean enough, didn't commit and was a great player, but could have. But just didn't have that killer instinct that allowed him to get there. And that killer instinct also allows you to train your face off. It's like Kobe not going to the club. Like, Kobe was. Kobe was psychotic. Yeah, yeah. It's always funny. It's like, man, what's your favorite Kobe story, man? Yeah, he murdered my wife the night before. And then the next night, the game, he put at 53 and told me, I killed your wife. And he's like, mama mentality, man. That's what we do. And you're like, all the Kobe stories are like, go to a therapist. Like, Kobe needed some helping at the other person. But yeah, but if you're gonna be great, it's a lot of sacrifice. But Kobe did win championship nonetheless. 3. Elgin Baylor before me. Yeah. So just heard the name. Have no story. I've seen him on 2K tape delayed if he ever got shown. It was tape delayed even then. Yeah, by a week. That's before us at number two, Charles Barkley. And number one, nobody's mentioned. Wait, is it Will? No, no, he won. No, he won one, I think gave him one. The crazy thing is the amount of championships is that the Dr. J has. Does he. Jay has one, right? Or no, I can't. Who am I thinking of? Bill Russell. Bill Russell, right? I think it's 1212. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. I know. And he's not even the conversation for Christ of all time. Just because he was too old for us to even to see him. Yeah, yeah. And they're like, well, he's playing against plumbers. Well, everybody's playing against who they're playing against. Yeah. And he went against Will Chamberlain. Yeah, yeah. Nobody's got number one. Nobody even mentioned number one. Dang. We saw him. Everybody here saw him. Regardless of even our age. Age gap. Oh, is it Steve Nash? No, no, he won with Dallas. Yeah, yeah, he won one with Dallas. Carmelo. Correct. Oh, good one. My next ten was gonna be. Was a. The dang Nick fan. Got it. I remember I lived through it. Carmelo. 19 seasons, 13 postseasons. But again, I'm not gonna have an argument here, but was he better than Barkley? Yeah, I don't know. Like more dominant Barkley. Well, same with Vince Carter. I mean, I love Vince Carter, but was he better than all those guys? Vince Carter, though, was kind of a pop culture. Like he was slam dunk contest, the Olympics, dunking over people. Definitely. Yeah. The NBA 82 game grind, that's over. But now the real fun begins. The NBA playoffs are here. It's time for all the high stakes drama, the clutch moments. The Jaw Dropping Plays if you're looking to make the playoffs Even more exciting, DraftKings sportsbook has you covered as an official sports betting partner of the NBA. Make it a playoff run to remember with DraftKings. 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Reid, how many more shows do you have with us? Just next week. And you're out. I think that. Yeah, just two, man. I got a surprise for you guys, too. Too. Just wait. Why are you messing. Why are you pulling? No, I know. I'm putting my phone in my pocket. Taking your pants off. It's like my uncle, he used to stick his finger through a zipper. Oh, God. He turned around, his little fingers coming out of his zipper. He's like, I got a surprise. Peekaboo. You want to do it today? Now? No, I mean, I don't have it with me. Oh, my. I'll have it. Why would you tease a surprise? No, I said, I'll have a surprise for you all in the final show. You didn't say that. That. Well, maybe I didn't get to it because you're like, what? What are you doing? Well, you were messing with your pants, and now it's not a surprise because you told us you literally were. You literally had your pants, and you're going, I got a surprise. Oh, yeah, I guess that. Yeah, that'll add up. Okay, so Reed's got a surprise for us next week. Yep, next week. Thanks. Yeah, man. You get ready. Reed's final two shows will be next week, man. I know, but he'll come back and visit. He said all time. He's only four hours away. Okay, so we'll end with this. We're gonna do Two Truths and a Lie Sports Edition. So may I have here? I do. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. All right, Eddie, come on. Two truths and a lie. Find the lie. No team has ever played a Super bowl in their home stadium. The Patriots and Steelers are tied for the most super bowl wins. The 49ers have never lost a Super bowl by more than four points now I'm going to read them again. You're trying to find the lie. Ok. You're looking for the lie. No team has ever played a Super bowl in their home stadium. The Patriots and Steelers are tied for the most super bowl wins. The 49ers have never lost a Super bowl by more than four points. Which one's the lie? So I'm taking out the first one because I think the packers probably. Or early. Early on. They probably played at Lambo or something. So I'm taking that one out. Well, yeah, I. I think you're missing the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm trying to find the. The one lie. You're trying to find the lie? Yeah. So I think that they're. That a player, a team has played in their home stadium. So that would be the lie. Yeah. Because the. The statement is no team has ever played a Super bowl in their home stadium. Oh, okay. The packers have never played super bowl in their home stadium. Good. And I wasn't really sure about the Super Bowls with the Patriots and the Steelers. So. Yeah, I say the packers have never played a Super bowl in their home stadium. Oh, you just said that. Yeah. I'm just letting you know. A little hint there. The packers have never played super bowl in their home state. Yeah, but like, have the Colts. No. Oh, really? Baltimore or Indianapolis. Yeah. Okay, so that's what I was thinking. But are you helping me right now? I don't know if you're helping me exactly. That's what I. What's their motivation? What's the motivation? Right. And then the Patriots and the Steelers. That doesn't sound right. I feel like the Patriots have more than the Steelers. So that could be the lie. That could be the lie. Which one's the lie? I didn't answer. And the last One was the 49ers. They never lost a Super bowl by more than four points. Yeah, that's. That's. That's true. So I'm gonna go with the Super Bowls. No, it's gotta be the first one. Give me the first one. One. The first one was the lie. Dude, you've walked us around. You didn't even understand the game. You walked us around. That's my head right now. I'm going to go with the first one is a lie. The Super Bowls. No team has ever played a Super bowl in their home stadium. Come on. You're saying that's a lie? That's a lie. Guys, has a Super bowl ever been played by a team in their home stadium? Yes. And what's the team? Correct. 20, 21. Dang. That's not a lie. You got it. You missed it, but you got it. Okay. Yeah. You got it. You got the point there. That's a difficult point to. Yeah. Reed, do you understand the game? Yeah, I think so. One of these is a lie. Brett Favre's first completed NFL pass was to himself. Oh, wow. Eli Manning has more playoff wins than Aaron Rodgers. Drew Brees was drafted by the Chargers in the first round. Ooh. Ooh, man. Which one's the lie? Brett Favre's first completed NFL pass was to himself. Man, I'm gonna look like an idiot. Eli Manning has more playoff wins than Aaron Rodgers. Okay. Drew Brees was drafted by the Chargers in the first round. I don't think Brees was drafted by the Chargers. Why not? Wait. At all. Why are you doing that, man? Brees was drafted by the Chargers. He was? Yeah. We talked about it, like, 20 minutes ago, not long ago. Did you. What's your answer there, buddy? I'm gonna go with number two, Eli Manning. You don't even know what it is. You're just. No, I don't. No, no, it was. No, it was. Oh, he's more playoff wins than. Than E. Or Eli Manning has more. Eli Manning does have more playoff wins than Aaron. Yeah. I feel like he definitely threw a pass to himself. That's Brett Far. Yeah, that's what I know. That's what I'm saying. Oh, my God, guys, I don't know who you play. I'm saying Brett Favre definitely threw a pass himself. Reed. And this is how I knew that answer earlier. I didn't know how I knew it, but I was putting the game together, Why I knew Drew Brees was second round. We just said it. Did we? Wow. Yeah. Breeze was drafted by the Chargers, but in the second round, pick 32. That's how I knew that. Off top of my head, because I looked at it. Yeah. All right. Are we gonna be able to get through this? I don't know. Because if we can't get through this one, we're gonna be done. I'll try and make it. Come on, Casey. I need one, man. I need one. And hold on. What was the lie? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. No, you're not. You're not kidding. Okay. We're going to end on one. Okay. We'll never. We'll do. Okay, here we go. Come on, Casey. All right, Casey. The Cowboys passed on drafting Randy Moss in 1998. Okay, let's just do it like this. Do you think that's true or false? And you can change it, but you think that's true or false. The Cowboys passed on drafting Randy Moss in 1998. I think that's false. Okay, so that definitely could be the lie. Could be the lie. CD Lamb was the first wide receiver Dallas ever selected in the first round. I don't think that's true. So that's another false. So far, we're doing two. Two lies in the truth. Jeez, it's tough, guys. Micah Parsons was originally drafted as a linebacker, not an edge rusher. Ooh. Wow. Okay. Why did I get the Cowboys? He's playing all three lines. Should have been ed. All right, I'm going to say that the lie is number two with the first round pick. You are correct. The Cowboys drafted multiple first round wide receivers before CD Lamb, including Michael Irvin and DEZ Bryant. There you go. They did pass on. They did pass on drafting Randy Moss. Why did I think Randy Moss played. Was drafted sooner than 98? That's. I thought he was in the league longer. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe he was, dude. I don't know. If not, then that's a lie. Look, there's another lie right there. Yeah. Oh, wait. Well, you're. You could be true. You could be. I don't know. I could be. I also write. No, it was, well, yours. Is that right? Yeah. Okay, let me look. Because it does seem like moss drafted 19. Yeah, it was 98. Oh, thank God. Because I'm not above making a mistake, guys. At all. I'm so confused right now. Yeah. All right, Kevin, what's the game called again? Two truths and a lie. All right. Oh. Jerry Jones bought The Cowboys in 1989. Do you think that's true or false? No, that's false. Okay, he's gonna go with that one. So far, that's a lie. Number two, he fired Tom Landry immediately after purchasing the team. True. Jerry Jones has never served as the team's general manager, officially. Oh, God. That's a mind f. Which one's the lie? I'm gonna stick with it. Number one. The first one. 89. Jerry Jones did buy the Cowboys in 1989. Oh, yeah. That was earlier than that. And he did not fire Tom Landry immediately after purchasing the team. I think gave him a year. Maybe. Maybe. I was gonna say it was pretty quick, but not that one year, huh? I think so. He has a heart and. But Jerry Jones has been the team general manager. Straight up. Okay. I know. He says I didn't know, like a legal title for him. I did go to do a Bunch of Cowboys. I forgot to tell you guys, we shifted to Cowboys. Yeah, yeah. You didn't give me any of those. Yeah, my bad, Brandon. Okay, final question. At and T Stadium has a retractable roof and a high def video board that spans 60 yards. I think that's true. Or false. I think that's false. Okay. The Cowboys are the only NFL team that doesn't wear a logo on their helmet. One more time. The Cowboys are the only NFL team that doesn't wear a logo on their helmet. The original Cowboy Stadium is this hard. The original Cowboy Stadium was named Jerry's World. Okay, that's the lie. The third one. Yeah. Well, Jerry World is also a nickname for attc, right? What was the first one? Reunion at and T Stadium has a retractable roof and a high def video board that spans 60 yards. That's true. That's 60 yards. I'm sorry. Okay, 100 yards. And the Cowboys, the only that doesn't wear a logo on their helmet, they have a star. It's just a star. And you can't own the star. Yeah. The shape of a star. There's nothing else about the star except it's a color. Interesting. Is it? Yeah. What's this game? I don't know. Two truths and a lie. I don't know. Okay, thank you. That's it. We're done. Thank you guys for being here. So does Brandon. Well, read this. You got this week and next week, right? Yeah. Does Brandon end up taking your workout spot, too? Oh, yeah. I mean, we actually talked about that if you. If he would be down, you know, I know. I need to. That's for sure. Is he getting his apartment as well? I don't know. That's what I'm wondering. Like, yeah, I'm moving in, baby. Take over all Reed stuff. He's taking my car. He's taking everything. I was like, what do you eat for breakfast? Like, black mirror. Like, just a new person comes in. Thank you, guys. If you don't mind, go over to our 25 whistles feed and hit subscribe. It would help us a ton if you guys would do that. We appreciate that. And I guess we'll talk after the draft, at least. After round one of the draft. Yeah. Yeah. We're back Friday to talk round one. What's up, Mike? You want to go to Seth Rollins? Oh, yeah. Before we close. Yeah. Here's our interview with Seth Rollins. Seth, I got a lot of questions for you. Great. First of all you grew up in Iowa. That's right. Davenport, Iowa. Iowa. Born and raised. So done a bunch of stand up through Iowa and I go to the town where they make the Crunch Berries. Where do they make the Crunch Berries? They have a whole Crunch Berry factory in Iowa. I thought you would tell me. Really? It's like Captain Crunch. It's either Iowa City or it is Cedar Rapids. That's it. Cedar Rapids. The whole town smells like Crunch Berries. It's the greatest smell ever. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That is right. Yes. Cedar Rapids. I didn't know they made Crunch Berries there. I knew there was like a factory of whatever. You got to go back. Back. It's Crunchberry central. Oh, that's amazing. Like, where's home now then? Like what state is it? So I still. Iowa. Still got a place in Iowa, but LA as well. Los Angeles. You don't smell like crunch Berries in la. No. It smells like ashes. Yes, very. Yeah, you're right. Like a fire pit, unfortunately. I watched the rumble. Did you? Did you enjoy all five? Here's the two things I liked. One, it. I didn't have to pay for it. Right? Like, I just had Peacock. Peacock. Boom. Pop it on go. And between Peacock and Netflix, it's opening it up to people who maybe didn't feel like either they wanted to try to find it or pay for, you know, a preferred pay per view. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And drop 50 bucks for a pay per view or 80 now, I guess. Yeah. So I watched all five hours of it. Oh, nice. Thought it was fantastic. What I came out thinking was, and I have a bunch of friends that played pro ball. They hurt after every game? Yes, sir. Aside from what we're seeing after basically every match, is it icing it up cold? Are you hurt? Not injured, but are you hurt after every match? Yeah. Falling down is not fun. Falling down is painful. And the older I get, the longer I do it. You don't get used to it. There was probably a period in my late 20s where I could wrestle every single night and. And I would be like brand new the next day that those days have come and gone. Now after every match, it takes me longer to get out of my gear. I have to ice things. I have to take a nice hot shower and make sure that I hit all the good spots so that I can lay down in bed comfortably. It is. Yeah, it is. It is very difficult to move once you've stiffened up after a little while. And. And is there like an injury report like in football? Like, do you have to go to them, be like, I've kind of busted out my elbow, especially maybe early. You don't even want them to know you're injured because. So where does that process turn from? I don't really want them to know because I want to keep working to. I need to let them know because I am now valuable. So I think as our medical system has developed over the years, there was always like a stigma about saying you were hurt. You know, you. You had to be a tough guy in wrestling, right? Yeah, just tough it out, whatever it was. It's a little bit different these days. I think the culture has changed to the point where we've learned that medical is there to help us, to work with us. So they're not trying to, like, you know, if you have a bruised elbow, they're not gonna be like, okay, go. You gotta sit out. But they're saying, let's take a look at it. Let's. Let's make sure that it's not an injury, that it is just something that we can work through. And. And to. For me, you know, I've been with WWE for, oh, 12 years, something like that now, maybe a little longer. And, you know, there's an equity there, a relationship that I built up with our medical team. So they understand my body, they understand my complaints. They understand what, you know, okay, is your. If it's your neck, let's look at it. If it's, you know, your. Your hips or something, okay, well, we can work through that. They know where I'm at. So it's just a matter of trusting the team that you've got got in place and understanding your body. They understand your physical, you know, health and where it's supposed to be, what your homeostasis is, and then you just got to go from there. But, yeah, it's trust, man. And we're at a good place, I think, with where we're at and what we've learned over the years. Final two questions. We've been on the road, we've been doing a couple shows before we came to the super bowl. And so we find gyms. Yeah, we have to. We pay like a $20 day pass to go. Yes, sir. Some rent. What is that process for you? Is it pretty much lined up or sometimes you have to go on, like, scavenger hunt somewhere just to get a workout out? No, I'm always scavenging, man. But I've been traveling for so long that I've got, like, these gyms built into my rolodex. I avid CrossFitter for years. And so CrossFit gyms are cool because you just meet the owner, you know what I mean? They're not like box gyms where, like, you just have to pay a day pass and find like a Planet Fitness or, you know what, Crunch fitness or whatever. CrossFit gyms, you meet the owner, you build a relationship, and then every time you go back into town, you just say, hey, man, like, coming through. Got a show. Mind if I come in and get a little pump on or, you know, get a sweat in or whatever it is? And they're. They're very cool about opening their doors. All right, final question for you. Whenever you started to be somebody known in pop culture more so than a wrestler early on, because you've. You've definitely hit that phase of people know you now that just aren't die hard wrestling fans. Yeah. Do you start to have other folks that maybe, I don't know, weren't your friend in high school? And all of a sudden they're like, hey, remember me? Can I get some tickets? Like, at what part of your career did that happen where it's like, hey, we were buds back in Iowa. Can I come to the show? Yeah. I mean, that started. You know what? It didn't happen all at once. It's like a kind of progressive thing that's happened over. Over the course of the last 12 years. You know, you get people little by little who start to ask questions. And I'm pretty cool with it. Like, you know, if I can help somebody out, I will. But some. Sometimes it gets a little crazy, you know, like, you start asking for me to send stuff to your, you know, your friends, kids, or something like that. I'm like, bro, we had like two conversations back in 2002. Like, I know your name and picture kind of because you look exactly like you did when you graduated. But come on, like, pump the brakes a little bit. Be realistic. Elimination chamber is exciting. I'm pumped. That's going to be big. I hope I can get myself in there. I still got to qualify for it. I'm not even in the chamber yet. Punk's in the chamber. Cena's in the chamber. Yeah. Cena just said, I'm in at the press conference. He's like, I'm in. I'm just doing it. Yeah. He's like, I'm not qualifying. I'm John Cena, and I go, okay. I guess that makes sense, you know, So I still got to qualify. I still got a match coming up in a couple weeks. Against Finn Balor. I got to win and get in. Then I got to. To win that match. But it is exciting. We're at skydome, which is dope. Skydome. Yeah, yeah. Rogers Center. I think it's what it's called. Tickets on sale now, but that's going to be a good time, man. That's going to be John Cena's last. Elimination Chamber, March 1 draw Elimination Chamber, March 1 Roger center in Toronto. Tickets available. It's Ticketmaster. Ca. That's Canada. Yes, that is Canada, not California. Really a big fan. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for stopping by and we'll be. Look, you're in. Bobby said, I just declared it in this press conference. No, I just declared it in this press conference. I've declared you're in. Yes. Thanks a lot. Thanks for the. Appreciate you, man. Thank you, guys. The 40s and free agents podcast with Daniel Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal has prepared you for the 2025 NFL Draft. We've told you what last year's playoff teams need to return to the postseason and how to teams with new coaches should approach the draft. So as draft season comes to a close, we've got you covered. Before your favorite team goes on the clock, we'll break it all down. Once all 257 picks have been made, listen to the 40s and free agents podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Peace to the planet. I go by the name of Charlamagne Tha God. And guess what? I can't wait to see y'all at the third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. That's right. Right. We're coming Back to Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday, April 26th at Pullman Yards. And it's hosted by none other than Decisions, Decisions, Mandy B and Weezy. Okay, we got the R and B Money podcast with Tank and J. Valentine. We got the Woman Evolved podcast with Sarah Jake Roberts, the Funky Friday podcast with Cam Newton, the Naked Sports podcast with Carrie Champion, Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast, the Trap Nerd podcast and many more will be on that stage live. And of course, it's bigger than podcast. We're bringing the Black Effect Marketplace with black owned businesses, plus the food truck court to keep you fed while you visit us. All right, listen, you don't want to miss this. Tap in and grab your tickets now@blackffect.com podcastfest. There's a lot in life that feels like it should be guaranteed that just isn't. Fortunately, AT&T guarantees connectivity you can depend on or they'll make it right at and t Connecting changes everything. Terms and conditions apply. Visit att.comguarantee to learn more. The big guests continue on Las Culturistas this week, it's the very funny Amy Poehler. Don't overthink it. They talk water. We did not drink water growing up. Water was not a thing. Parenting, you got teen boys. This is like the black diamond of parenting. And of course, I don't think so, honey. Horror movies. Okay, okay. Amy Poehler is online culture. The latest episode drops Wednesday. Listen to Las culturistas on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Okay, that's it. Thank you. And we'll see you guys at the end of the week after round one of the draft when the cowboys will have drafted. Oh, my goodness. Ashton Gentry. That's right. There you go. And. And let's go thunder and thunder. I called it. I called it. Called it. He called it. Now I want them to lose. Get them songs out, baby. All right, we'll see you guys next week, Eddie boy. All right, See you guys. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host at producer Eddie Set, segment producer at kickoff, Kevin, video producer at Reed Yarberry, and executive producer at Mike Diestro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles. The 40s and free agents podcast with Daniel, Jeremiah and Greg Rosenthal has prepared you for the 2025 NFL Draft. We've told you what last year's playoff teams need to return to the play postseason and how teams with new coaches should approach the draft. So as draft season comes to a close, we've got you covered. Before your favorite team goes on the clock, we'll break it all down once all 257 picks have been made. Listen to the 40s and free agents podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The big guests continue on Las Culturistas. This week, it's the very funny Amy Poehler. Don't overthink it. They talk. Water. We did not drink water growing up. Water was not a thing. Parenting, you got teen boys. This is like the black diamond of parenting. And of course, I don't think so, honey. Horror movies. Okay, okay. Amy Poehler is on las culture. The latest episode drops Wednesday. Listen to Las culturistas on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. Peace to the planet. I go by the name of Charlamagne Tha God. And guess what? I can't wait to see y'all at the third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. That's right. We're coming Back to Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday, April 26th at Pullman Yards. And it's hosted by none other than Decisions, Decisions, Mandy B. And Weezy. Okay, we got the R and B Money podcast with Tank and Jay Valentine. We got the Woman Evolved podcast with Sarah, Jake Roberts, the Funky Friday podcast with Cam Newton, the Naked Sports podcast with Carrie Champion, Good Moms, Bad Choices podcast, the Trap Nerd podcast, and many more will be on that stage live. And of course, it's bigger than podcast. We're bringing the Black Effect Marketplace with black owned businesses, plus the food truck court to keep you fed while you visit us. All right, listen, you don't want to miss this, tap in and grab your Tickets now@blackffect.com Podcast Festival, proudly sponsored by Nissan.