25W: Bobby and Eddie on What’s Going on with Puka Nacua? + Is Eddie Giving up on Cowboys? + Oklahoma State Coach Eric Morris on his "Batman Room" and 600 Unread Texts + Bill Bellick Steps Out again with Girlfriend

Summary

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The Bobby Bones Show: 25W — Bobby and Eddie on What’s Going on with Puka Nacua? + Is Eddie Giving up on Cowboys? + Oklahoma State Coach Eric Morris on his "Batman Room" and 600 Unread Texts + Bill Belichick Steps Out Again with Girlfriend

Date: December 18, 2025
Host: Bobby Bones (Premiere Networks)
Notable Guest: Eric Morris (Oklahoma State Head Coach)

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Episode Overview

This episode of the 25 Whistles podcast, part of The Bobby Bones Show, dives into a blend of college and NFL football stories, with banter about referees, player controversies, fandom frustrations, a deep-dive interview with Oklahoma State’s new head coach Eric Morris, and some fun asides about sports celebrity life. Key discussions include the Puka Nacua controversy, the viability of the Dallas Cowboys, the transition of coach Eric Morris, plus some lighthearted takes on Bill Belichick’s public outings and sports world oddities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Puka Nacua: Public Comments & Brother’s Legal Trouble

[03:50–08:11]

• Referee Critique:
  • Puka Nacua (LA Rams) publicly accused refs of making bad calls “just to get TV time” (referring to an Aiden Ross stream).
    • Co-host: “Like, dude...these are the people that call...you can’t do that...I feel like now there’s a target on his back from all refs.” (04:08)
  • Bobby and co-host discuss whether refs hold grudges and the impact of technology on their accountability.
    • Bobby Bones: “A ref's job is actually affected by how bad a job he does.” (04:36)
• Brother’s Arrest:
  • Story breaks about Nacua’s brother, Samson, being arrested for allegedly stealing Lakers player Adou Thiero’s SUV.
    • Bobby Bones: “They stole it and valeted.” (06:28)
• Family Fallout for Famous Relatives:
  • The hosts debate whether it's fair to tie crimes to a famous family member.
    • Bobby Bones: “When you get famous, your family comes into it with you...If you’re going to take the pros, you gotta take the cons.” (07:28)
    • Co-host: “That just sucks for Puka. He had nothing to do with it. But his name gets brought.”
    • Bobby Bones: “Yeah, but you gotta make sure your brother's not an idiot.” (08:03)

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2. College Football Picks, Parlay Building, and Coaching Carousel

[08:11–15:52]

• Alabama vs. Oklahoma Preview:
  • Discussion about the matchup, betting lines, and family rooting interests.
• Coaching Changes:
  • The impact of coaches leaving (e.g., Lane Kiffin) and how teams respond.
  • Bobby Bones: “It probably is a disadvantage...I don't think it matters here.” (10:12)
• Betting Picks Parlay:
  • Bobby details his picks: Alabama Moneyline, Texas A&M Moneyline, Oregon -21 over James Madison.
    • Bobby Bones: “That's a lot of points to give up, but I'm going to go Oregon -21.” (15:17)

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3. Nick Saban Buys into the Nashville Predators

[12:35–14:27]

• Life after Football:
  • Saban purchases a minority stake in the NHL’s Nashville Predators.
  • Philosophical talk about wealth, youth, and passion for the work itself.
    • Bobby Bones: “You don't do the work for the money. You work for the work, and then the money comes.” (13:12)
• Saban in New Colors:
  • The hosts joke about how odd Saban looks in Predators’ yellow.
    • Bobby Bones: “Him wearing that color would be weird.” (14:23)

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4. Feature Interview: Oklahoma State Coach Eric Morris

[21:20–39:47]

Intro and Personal Transition

• Batman Room Mystique:
  • Bobby asks Coach Morris about his “Batman Room”:
    • Eric Morris: “This is a Batman room. I don't know exactly what it's called...I've learned so many new things...I'm a little discombobulated.” (21:50)
• Adapting to Oklahoma State — wardrobe overhaul and living accommodations.
  • Eric Morris on orange gear: “Zero [orange]. We’re in the transition phase to turning that green into bright orange right now.” (22:14)
  • On moving: Prefers small-town living; family will move after spring break for kids’ sports and stability.
    • “Everything...kind of has switched...They moved us in into an Airbnb...We just bought a home.” (25:38)

Playing Career Memories

• Favorite TD as Texas Tech Player:
  • Eric Morris: “I scored the game-winning touchdown against Nebraska in the 08 run...Mike Leach called my number...He used to call me the elf.” (23:25)
• Offensive Philosophy:
  • Explains the “air raid” system:
    • “It’s more of a philosophy now, and I think it’s the way we practice...My position coaches...were Dana Holgorsen, Sonny Dykes, and Lincoln Riley…” (27:39)
  • Trick plays and origins of funny play names, e.g., “Lollipop”:
    • “[We have] a play called Lollipop...named after a player...showing us a YouTube video of the ‘Lollipop’ song on roller skates…” (28:58)

Coaching Method & Staff Building

• Hiring Approach:
  • Eric Morris: “I bird dog all of it on the front end because I don’t want to micromanage on the back end. I want to hire smart people and allow them to do their jobs.” (31:14)
    • Reflects on learning from mentors Mike Leach, Cliff Kingsbury, and adapting to the financial/management aspects of modern college football.

Life as a New Coach

• Inundated with Inquiries:
  • “Day two, after it was announced, my wife...my text messages were up to like 650 texts.” (34:34)
  • Balances congratulatory texts, job seekers, and building relationships with the alumni base.
    • “You’re drinking from a water hose...I love being on the grass and having a whistle on.” (35:49)
• Family, Roots, Favorite Stories:
  • Morris shares that his wife is from Rector, Arkansas, and he now owns multiple cotton farms there. (27:01)
• Fun, Personal Q&A:
  • Could Morris dunk? “No. Are you kidding me?....I could always grab the rim…but actually dunk a full-size men’s basketball…I could not.” (36:22)
  • On being fearless as a punt returner:
    • “Wes Welker told us...we don’t fair catch around here...If you want to returner, it should be you guys.” (37:05)
  • On Bedlam Rivalry:
    • “For the fans in the state, from an economical standpoint, it makes so much sense...for the both places, I think it’d be awesome to find a middle ground and be able to play that game once a year.” (38:40)

Notable quote:

“The first six months...you’re drinking from a water hose. It’s never going to feel like it slows down until you get everything…your culture, your offseason program. But...being on the grass and having a whistle on...that’s my happy place.”
— Eric Morris, [34:34–35:49]

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5. NFL Anxiety: Cowboys, Fandom, and Playoff Odds

[45:57–54:35]

• Eddie’s Cowboys Fatigue:

  • Bobby Bones: “Do you care at all about the Cowboys?”
    • Eddie: “Not really...I think I’m done after that loss.” (45:59–46:01)

• Fans' Emotional Roller Coaster:

  • Debate on whether it’s worth investing hope with slim playoff odds.
    • Eddie: “It hurts for a week.” (50:43)
    • Other Co-host: “It’s just not worth it to get all worked up when you know the outcome.” (50:58)

• Statistical Playoff Scenarios:

  • Bobby runs through the elaborate possible playoff percentages for the Cowboys.
    • “If you win all three [games] and the Eagles lose all three, you’re in the playoffs — 100%.” (49:19)

• Spurs Talk:

  • Turning to NBA, there’s enthusiasm for the revitalized Spurs and Wembanyama’s impact.
    • Co-host: “They are so good...They’re so fun to watch.” (46:32)

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6. Fun, Odd & Offbeat Sports News

[54:35–61:19]

• Bill Belichick’s Relationship Makes Headlines (Again):
  • Amusement and bemusement about photos of Belichick with his girlfriend at an adult cheerleading competition.
    • Bobby Bones: “I fully felt grandpa-granddaughter. It was very much grandpa vibes.” (54:49)
    • Age gap noted: She’s 24, he’s 73, her dad is 49.
• Other Sports Oddities:
  • Sacramento State’s new coach, Alonzo Carter, is a former MC Hammer dancer.
  • NFL-related crime: House of Titans’ Jeffrey Simmons robbed during a game — speculative discussion if such break-ins are “inside jobs”, referencing a similar Joe Burrow incident. (58:01–60:11)
• Funny Moment:
  • Bobby and crew joke about a viral moment where Josh Hart of the Knicks puts his thumb up Jalen Brunson’s backside in celebration, comparing it to their own locker room hijinks.
    • “Josh Hart tweeted it was AI. And then the next post is, oh, dang, it's in 4K and from 80 different angles.” (61:11)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On referees being human:

  • “Like, they are human. But I mean, the only calls would really be holding. Maybe some pass interference. But still, it’s on camera so much that a ref’s job is actually affected by how bad a job he does.” — Bobby Bones [04:36]

• On being related to someone famous:

  • “When you get famous, your family comes into it with you...your family is just part of it.” — Bobby Bones [07:28]

• On coaching chaos in college football:

  • “The pendulum swung and it was so violent and nobody's been able to catch up...all of a sudden it's just become a free for all.” — Eric Morris [29:51]

• On why it's about the work, not the money:

  • “You don't do the work for the money. You work for the work, and then the money comes and then you're like, well, I still love doing the work for the work.” — Bobby Bones [13:21]

• On Cowboys heartbreak:

  • “I just need to guard my heart a little more because when they do lose, it hurts for a week.” — Eddie [50:43]

• On Bill Belichick’s girlfriend:

  • “I fully felt grandpa-granddaughter. It was very much grandpa vibes. Yeah. And let it rip. Ain't nobody doing anything wrong. Let it rip. But it is weird. It can be weird and not wrong.” — Bobby Bones [54:49]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Topic | Timeframe | |----------------------------------------------------|-------------| | Puka Nacua: Refs & Brother’s Arrests | 03:50–08:11 | | CFB Playoff/Bets/Coaching Changes | 08:11–15:52 | | Nick Saban & Hockey Money Talk | 12:35–14:27 | | Interview: Oklahoma State Coach Eric Morris | 21:20–39:47 | | Cowboys Fandom and Playoff Math | 45:57–54:35 | | Bill Belichick Comment, Sports Oddities, NFL Crime | 54:35–61:19 | | Knicks’ Josh Hart and Locker Room “antics” | 61:11–61:19 |

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Tone & Style

Conversational, irreverent, and humorous — Bobby Bones and the crew blend serious sports analysis and interviews with quirky banter and blunt, often self-deprecating honesty. The show feels like friends hanging out, swapping stories, and ribbing each other as much as dissecting sports news.

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Conclusion

This episode delivers a layered blend of football chat — from sharp critique and player controversy, to coaching insights, to hilarious off-the-cuff commentary on sports celebrities’ personal lives and viral moments. The interview with Coach Eric Morris stands out as a highlight, offering a rare, candid look at the realities of a college coach’s life and philosophy.

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Transcript

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[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

This is a podcast called 25 whistles.

[Bobby Bones]

Talking football. And they all wear a whistle.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Yeah, it's stupid, but what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, blow it. What's happening with Pukinakua?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, what's he saying?

[Bobby Bones]

Like, is he like, oh, you're talking about what he. You see his brother stole a car.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

No, no.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, you go first.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

No, I'm talking about him just talking about refs complaining about refs, like, publicly.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, dude, oh, he was on Aiden Ross's stream.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, yeah. And he's talking about how, like, yeah, I think refs, like, just do dumb calls just so they can be have TV time. Like, dude, these are the people that call. Like, you can't do that. And yes, refs try to be fair, but at the same time, like, if you say something like that, they will do bad. Call bad calls on purpose on you.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know if they'll do that because they're so judged by cameras.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

But you don't think refs, like, have grudges on certain players? Because, I mean, they can.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, they are human. But I mean, the only one. Only calls would really be holding. Maybe some pass interference. But still, it's on camera so much that a ref's job is actually affected by how bad a job he does.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, dude, I was thinking about this about refs.

[Bobby Bones]

I did think it was funny he said that, though.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

It was funny. But, I mean, I feel like now there's a target in his back from all refs. But anyway, isn't it kind of cool, like, how they review these, you know, these plays now? Like, you know, first downs they have to go through, like what does they.

[Bobby Bones]

Call it on scoring plays? They do.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah. Yeah. Or sometimes on first downs they'll like, do they're going to do if there's.

[Bobby Bones]

A check on where the ball is.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Spotting the ball, technology review or whatever. How do you think the ref feels when it's proved wrong?

[Bobby Bones]

I. I've thought the same about reps in baseball. When they call somebody safe and they go back and look and they were out.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, that's embarrassing.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Totally embarrassing.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's embarrassing.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I feel bad. Like, I love the technology, love that they're getting calls. Right. And yes, there's an actual line down the. Down the field that tells you if it's a first down or not. Love it. But at the same time, the refs got to be like, ah, that was not that short. That's short by two yards. And then they look at it and like, no, it wasn't. Dang it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's embarrassing. I would think the other story about Puka Nakua was so a Duthiro who played at Arkansas, which is why I think I got the story in my feed. But he had his SUV stolen while he was playing and one of the people who stole his car was Pukinaku, his brother.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

No way.

[Bobby Bones]

I'll read you this.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Wait, it was he in Arkansas?

[Bobby Bones]

No, no. He's placed for the Lakers now.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Okay, got it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. This story from NBC Los Angeles. Two men, including the brother of Los Angeles ramsar Puka Nakua were arrested over the weekend after allegedly taking Los Angeles Lakers forward a do Thiero's SUV without his consent. Deputies were called the 1 Hotel in West Hollywood after the vehicle was tracked to the hotel. There the suspects had valeted the car and entered the hotel. They took. They stole it and valeted.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Dang, that's gutsy.

[Bobby Bones]

While reviewing security footage, deputies were able to identify the suspects and found them soon after they arrested them on suspicion of taking the suv. Wow. It's unclear where or when the SUV was stolen. The suspects arrested in the case were identified as 27 year old Trey Rose and 27 year old Samson Nua, who is the brother of Rams Puka Nakua. Is this another Pavia family?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Right. Crazy, crazy brothers. Do you think it's fair though? Like, I understand the connection right in the story, but do you think it's fair when like a brother of somebody's commits a crime and then they always tie it to the famous person?

[Bobby Bones]

Fair. I think it's newsworthy because his brother's famous.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, but like, if my brother did.

[Bobby Bones]

Something and you're not famous, Pennsylvania, you're not famous enough.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

No, say I'm Puka.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Like, it's not fair that my brother, who I was just born, I mean, he's just my brother by birth, like, and he messed up in Pennsylvania, has nothing to do with me. But now that you brought my brother's crime into my life, now people are going to associate us.

[Bobby Bones]

That's happened throughout the history of time. Bill Clinton's brother, Roger Clinton, Sylvester Stallone's brother. Like, your family is just part of it. When you get famous, your family comes into it with you. It's like our wives that have to at times be subjected to mean stuff. Mine specifically. Just because she's my wife.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So part of the deal is if somebody in your circle, especially a relative, gets famous, you have to have some of that runoff on you. And also, you don't think the brothers are taking advantage of as well.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Sure.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, if you're going to take the pros, you got to take the cons. Also, don't steal somebody's car. So, no, I'm not going to feel sorry for anybody.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I'm saved for Puka. That just sucks for Puka. He had nothing to do with it. But his name gets brought in.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but you got to make sure your brother's not an idiot.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, that's funny. Pavia situation. Those brothers, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, those brothers. That's bad news. We have Eric Morris coming up, the head coach of Oklahoma State. I'm telling you, I really feel like Alabama is going to beat Oklahoma.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I agree.

[Bobby Bones]

I want Oklahoma to win because it would make my father in law happy. And Oklahoma is a favorite by a point and a half right now.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Are you surprised by that?

[Bobby Bones]

No. Because they're in Oklahoma and usually it's three points. So that would mean Alabama neutral site, would be a point and a half favorite. Alabama will get some of their guys back. Oklahoma just can't score.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, defense is good.

[Bobby Bones]

The best can't score. I'm going to go significant. I don't want to have to. I don't. Maybe I won't. I don't want to have a rooting interest against my father in law. They're going to the game.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

They are. That's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's super fun for them.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

That's really cool. Yeah, I mean, I guess it's been a bit. Right. Since Oklahoma's been.

[Bobby Bones]

They played earlier this year. Oklahoma beat them, but they had a bunch of turnovers. Alabama did, um. I. I just think you can try to. Gonna win that game.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

You can try to go hard.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to nothing. Oh, no, I don't think so. Now that I talk about it, I don't want to have to quietly root under my breath because my wife will be watching it. Obviously, it's the only Friday night game as well, but, yeah, I think Alabama, really. I think Alabama can be Indiana. I know they just got embarrassed by playing Georgia in the NFC Championship, but I think Alabama, if they win this game, I think they can also beat Indiana. So take that for what it's worth. I've had a terrible year betting.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

What about Ole Miss? Like, I'm just. I don't understand how a coach can just jump into a team and be like, all right, you're in the playoffs. Let's roll.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, he didn't just jump in. He was their coordinator.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, I know, but it's been there the whole year. It's different, though. It's like your head coaches bailed on you guys. Like, do you think that helps the team or hurts the team?

[Bobby Bones]

The head coach is a defensive coordinator. Really good defensive coordinator, I'm sure, offensively. And I think their offensive coordinator is coming back to actually call the game. But their offensive coordinator was Lane Kiffin, I think.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

And the OC Is where. I mean, he went with Lane.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but he's coming back to coach. They're not letting Lane come back to coach. I think it probably is a disadvantage.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But I think everybody gets a. They're also playing Tulane, which is a rematch. They kicked the crap out of Tulane earlier this year. I just don't. I don't think it matters here. I don't think they're good enough to actually win it or win the second round game. I don't think it's really going to come into play here because I don't think they were good enough anyway to actually win more than two games. So it sucks your coach leaves. Obviously, he's really good. I don't think it's going to matter in this situation.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Because they're playing too late.

[Bobby Bones]

No. Yeah, because they'll kill two Lane, but then. And then they'll lose the next week.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

Did I get a retweet from my coordinator?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

You got a retail.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you see that? Did you get it? I was wondering if you got a reply from him. Oh, a reply. Got it. So the Arkansas special teams coordinator follows me. I didn't know that. I thought you were just blind tweeting him. No, so someone had said, hey, Arkansas, hire the new special teams coach. I didn't know he was. And I just went to his page to see if I knew him or knew anybody that were mutual friends, and. And he followed me, and I saw that he followed me, so I just messaged him, and I was like, hey, welcome to the Hogs. Hope to see you around. That was it.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, no, that. That's it. I don't know him.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Oh, that's it.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I. I got a like on that. But also, like, I was just saying he followed me. I didn't want to. I don't know. I just kind of have some hospitality, you know? So. Yeah, the Dolphins bench Tua.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I know.

[Bobby Bones]

I saw that for Quinn and not for Zach Wilson. And Zach Wilson was pissed.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, I'd be pissed.

[Bobby Bones]

But Quinn Ewers, you got to give him a shot to see if he's any good.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Let's see what happens.

[Bobby Bones]

It's not that they even think Quinn Ewers is better than Zach Wilson right now, but I think it's a. Hey, let's see if we think there's anything in Quinn ewers, because Mike McDonald's going to come back. But I don't think that to it. They owe him a lot of money. I don't think he's a quarterback next year. And I think that's kind of obvious now because they've benched him. They do owe him a lot. But, yeah, Zach Wilson was pissed, man.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I kind of like Quinn Ewers going in for us, needing the Bengals win, you know, why not try a new quarterback?

[Bobby Bones]

It wouldn't have mattered.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

You don't think so?

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, 2x has sucked this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go. Sure. I don't know.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I saw it, and I'm like, okay, this is a perfect time because we need the Bengals to win.

[Bobby Bones]

Nick Saban bought a minority part of the Nashville Predator NHL team.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I saw that.

[Bobby Bones]

That's awesome. Do you think it'd be weird to make a lot of money but have all the money when you got old? Wouldn't it be cool to be rich and young?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Well, but that's the problem with, like, working so hard. No, like, working so hard like, you. You know, like, you know this. Like, you work hard and then you make a lot of money. So, like, you can't really enjoy the money because you got to keep working.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, but you don't do the work for the money. I think that's where the difference is.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Right? But you do the work. So there's no time to have fun with the money, but you're not doing it.

[Bobby Bones]

But you're not doing it for the money. So it's. It's not that you're going crazy because you have this money, because now you have to work all the time. You're actually. You caring about the work is what makes you the money.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Sure. Yeah. I haven't gotten there yet. No. I mean, I love what I do.

[Bobby Bones]

You don't care about the work enough to actually make the money. It's counterproductive. It's counterintuitive. Even. You think, well, you work a whole lot. You make a lot of money. You want to work less because you have a lot of money. It's the opposite. You don't work for the money. You work for the work. And then the money comes and then you're like, well, I still love doing the work for the work.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

When do you enjoy the money now that you're done coaching?

[Bobby Bones]

It's never about the money.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So that's the answer. And that's probably with Nick Saban, too.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

So is he a hockey fan or he just kind of like, I got a lot of money. What do I do with it? What do you think about that?

[Bobby Bones]

Probably just presented an opportunity to just be a.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Was it?

[Bobby Bones]

Minority Predators chairman and majority owner Bill Haslam announced Tuesday the purchase made by Dream Sports Ventures, an entity controlled by Saban and business partner Joe Agracetti. Although I'm now retired as a coach, I still possess a competitive nature and a great passion for sports.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

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[Bobby Bones]

Him wearing that color would be weird.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, the yellow.

I saw him with a. With a jersey or something. It did look weird.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I just don't see him in that color. I don't. I can't see him back in the LSU colors. I can find old pictures of them. Or even in the Michigan State colors.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

It's all maroon.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it is. Alabama. We do have coach Eric Morris coming up from Oklahoma State. Let's build the parlay. I'm going Alabama. Money line.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

It's all you, man.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm not even taking the point and a half, so get on DraftKings. I'm going Alabama Moneyline. I'm also going to take the Texas A and M Moneyline. Now they are minus three and a half, but I'm taking the A and M Moneyline as well. The crazy game is the James Madison Oregon game. It's a 21 point game. Yeah, I think Oregon covers that.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I would think so.

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I just think and I was reading a tweet where a guy was like, this is a danger to the James Madison players health reasons. Yeah, he's being serious. Yeah, like they're so much bigger and faster. But a lot of these P4 schools play these all the time. But I'm going to go Oregon -21. That is a lot of points to give up. So I'm going to go Alabama Moneyline, Texas A&M Moneyline Oregon -21. You can download the Draft Kings sportsbook app. Use the code Bobby Sports. That is the code Bobby Sports. Bet five bucks and get $200 in bonus bets. If your bet wins in partnership with DraftKings, the Crown is yours.

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[Bobby Bones]

We're going to get over now to head football coach of Oklahoma State, Eric Morris. Coach Morris came over from North Texas where he spent two years as their head coach this year, 11 and 2. He was an awesome receiver at Texas Tech back in his playing days, which we'll talk about. Thanks to coach for coming on with us. Here he is, Coach Eric Morris. Hey, let's bring on the new coach at Oklahoma State, Eric Morris. Coach, thanks for the time.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Absolutely appreciate you having me on.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, we're debating, that's a legit setup. Is that a green screen or is that like a special Batman room you walk into with that?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

This is, this is a Batman room. I don't know exactly what it's called yet. I've learned so many new things and places and names over the course of the last two weeks. I'm a little discombobulated.

[Bobby Bones]

So I have a lot of family that have gone to Oklahoma State and I have a lot of family from Oklahoma in general that is such a distinct color, that orange. I imagine you didn't have any of that color in your closet already and it had to be a whole new wardrobe. Right?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Zero. So, you know, I've been red and black most of my life and then we moved to North Texas and so I had zero green when I, when I arrived in Denton. And three years later, we looked at in our closets, my wife and I, and there's nothing but green in there. And so we're in the transition phase to, to turning that green into bright orange right now.

[Bobby Bones]

That's all ties and I mean you have everything green. So what do you do with all the green stuff? Because it's not like you can go to a press conference and have a little green and a tie or a lapel or something.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Yeah, we love to donate and so, you know, and I start usually with making calls that wear our sizes with people in Denton that love North Texas and, and be able to give them some, some nice clothing that they'll go out and wear. And then the things that we end up not giving, giving away, you know, we'll take and we'll donate it to the less fortunate, you know.

[Bobby Bones]

You played at Texas Tech, friends with Coach McGuire. He sent us a helmet up here. I didn't think about that when you were coming on. We keep it on the desk here. You were quite the baller back at Tech. I was just looking at some stats before you came on. You know, this probably or maybe you've forgotten it. 184 for almost 2,000 yards and 23 total touchdowns. Do you have a favorite one favorite touchdown? If I say tell me your favorite playing touchdown, coach.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Yeah, I scored the game winning touchdown against Nebraska in, in the 08 run and, and so I think that's the one that, that's a memory that I'll keep forever. We actually were in the huddle in overtime at the one yard line and Mike Leach was talking to Dana Hoberson upstairs and, and they're talking about running in the middle and, and Mike says hey, I, I know what they don't expect coming. And he used to call me the elf. And he said they won't expect elf around the edge. And so, so here we go. You know, Mike, Mike ends up calling my number in the huddle and, and get around the corner and score a touchdown. And and so yeah, that's a great memory that I'll have for. I scored a touchdown early in the game against the famous Texas game. The Crabtree catch. Obviously that one gets overshadowed by, by the, you know, miraculous play that Graham Harrell and Michael Crabtree had. So that, that one would have been a lot better if I would have. Would have had that on my resume. But yeah, the Nebraska is definitely the one.

[Bobby Bones]

That game where Crabtree caught that ball. We were all living in Austin at the time and it's Halloween.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Everybody knows where they were for sure. Everybody can remember this.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

It's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

I think it was a Halloween game. It may have even been on Halloween night. And the, and I, I hate Texas. The University of Texas. I hate, I'm Arkansas guy. I hate Texas with Every part of my body, even though I lived in Austin. So I was rooting hard against Texas and it was probably like a top 20 moment for me and involved none of my teams at all. But that had to be a crazy game at the end, right? Is that, is that non stop party with the fans on the field for an hour?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Yeah, it was fun. Everybody always ask kind of what happened over the course of the night. And I'm like, listen, there was so many, I mean, people were burning couches in the street. Nobody was moving. And so really, to be honest with you, like, I didn't get home until like 2:00am My, my center was, was the room. I mean, my roommate was our center at the time. And finally, like, we couldn't drive our cars home and so we just walked, which was, you know, probably a 15, 20 minute walk. And we're like, all right, let's go home. And so we ended up, you know, just kept grabbing a couple of drinks on the couch and we rewatched the game on the tv.

[Bobby Bones]

Man, what a night. Even for me. What a night. I hate Texas so much. What a night that was, even for me. All right, so Stillwater, been there a few times. Like, when you move to a new city, obviously you don't have a house ready to go. Do you live in like a, like semi permanent housing until you get a place? And when does your family move up?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Yeah, everything kind of has switched, I think, just, just like it has in life in general. I think, you know, the first week I was in a hotel, they have a hotel on campus, which is awesome, called the Atherton. And then after that they moved us in into an Airbnb, which is a little bit more conducive to when my family does want to come up here from time to time. So we just bought a home and it'll close, I think January 20th, it closes. And so then the next question is just where your kids are in, in their lives. I think I have a 10 year old and a 5 year old and my 10 year old wants to finish out his season with his basketball team. And so the, the sweet spot for us this year I think is going to be spring break and so allow our kids to continue to, to go to school down in Denton. And then the transition, you kind of have a week to get everybody moved up here, get adjusted to the lifestyle of Stillwater. A little bit slower moving, small town pace, which we love. I'm from a small town in West Texas and so my wife's actually from a small town In Arkansas. And so this fits us and was part of the big reason why I wanted to join forces here with Oklahoma State and raise my family in a small town. But so, yeah, we'll bring the kids up, spring break, everything moved into the new house, and then they'll transition into a new school. Right after spring break, I got to do it.

[Bobby Bones]

And where's your wife from? I'm from a small town in Arkansas.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

She's from Rector, Arkansas.

[Bobby Bones]

We used to play ball corner. Yeah, I love it.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

So I'll be in Rector here in a couple of weeks, actually. They're cotton farmers and so just on the side, I actually, I think I just purchased my either third or fourth cotton farm a couple of weeks ago. So I'm a proud, proud landowner in northeast Arkansas.

[Bobby Bones]

You mentioned a minute ago two coaches that are known, at least by me offensively, as guys that change the game, and Coach Leach and even Coach Holgerson, who you played for. And, you know, when you look up what you do, the air. The word air raid comes up a lot. If you were to explain the air raid in 30 seconds, like, how does the air raid differ from other explosive offenses?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Yeah, I think it's more of a philosophy now, and I think it's the way we practice. I think, you know, just. I was so blessed. My position coaches in college when. When I was a player were Dana Hogerson, Sonny Dykes, and Lincoln Riley were all my position coaches. And so I think we've all taken something from the philosophy. Although now, you know, we like to run the ball more. And our plays, we. We're a little bit more diverse on. On what we do from a creativity standpoint.

[Bobby Bones]

And.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

But I think the way we practice and how many plays we have on our script, like, we all continue to do the things that Mike taught us. You know, 20 years ago, have you.

[Bobby Bones]

Drawn up an offensive play that one day, if the scenario is right, like a super crazy trick play that you've never used?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Yeah. And, you know, the cool thing is naming these plays now. And so we have all these tempo plays that are one word calls, as we call them. And so it's fun to sit down, like with people on a new staff or new players. And you go back, you know, for instance, we have a play called Lollipop right now, and it's called Lollipop because the. The player we created it for, you know, six years ago at Incarnate Word, is one of my favorite players I've ever coached. And for his art project that year, he was showing us a YouTube video and he was on roller skates and, and they were doing this lollipop video. The song lollipop. Oh yeah, everybody knows it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

And so, so this play that's been super successful for us over the course of the last five years, like we just continue to call it lollipop. And you know, your, your players in North Texas are like coach, like why are we calling this lollipop?

[Bobby Bones]

And something.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

You bring up the YouTube and the thing and you show them this guy on roller skates doing this thing and everybody laughs for a while and like, holy crap. Like that. That went to a place I never expected. And so, so yeah, we, we have some crazy things that we've drawn up and there's one pass that, that we've had in the playbook all year this year at North Texas that we're to, to one of our offensive linemen and we practice it all the time. Never, never found the right opportunity to, to call it this year. It'll come out at some point.

[Bobby Bones]

What was it about Oklahoma State that drew you? Because obviously you were a coach in demand. You were linked with a bunch of places wanting you. So why go to Stillwater?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

I'm a Big 12 guy. I'm a small town guy. And, and I think just it was aligned, you know, with, with kind of our values as a family. And, and I think more so now in college football. Like the landscape has changed so fast and I tell people all the time, like the pendulum swung and it was so violent and nobody's been able to catch up like, you know, for how many ever years. You know, there's no transferring without penalties and there's absolutely no paying players legally. And all of a sudden it's just become a free for all. And so I think having alignment from your president and your athletic director on down and then, and then two, you know, for me, I have good memories of Oklahoma State. It wasn't long ago, like I love what Mike Gundy was able to build here. I've seen, you know, boom picking stadium rocking with 60,000 people. And, and so, you know, for me to be able to raise my family in this environment, still get these small town, you know, values while I'm raising them, While playing major P4 football was, was something that was a perfect fit for me.

[Bobby Bones]

Whenever you fill out your staff, are you bird dog in every single decision or do you delegate a bit to some of your guys to hey, who do you think we should bring in for some of these position jobs or even lesser like G Even ga role.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Jobs, I bird dog all of it on the front end because I don't want to micromanage on the back end. And I want to hire smart people and allow them to do their jobs. Right. And so I think, you know, there's so many different dynamics that you need putting together as staff and, and you know, my first job with Mike Leech, I. I got to fly up to Pullman with him and because I was the first guy I hired, I was 23 years old, I think at the time. And so. And then, you know, a year later I was the first person that Cliff Kingsbury hired and, and I was 24 or 25 as, as an offensive coordinator at Texas Tech. And so for me to like be a fly on the wall and, and watch and learn, not only the things that they did that, that ended up being really good, but also, you know, some of the things that I, I thought ended and things that didn't work out. And so it was always intriguing to me, you know, and I've used those experiences on, on why I've hired, you know, people in incarnate word, why I hired people at North Texas and then why, you know, I'm hiring people now. And so I'm a little bit more involved on the front end just because once, once they do get here like I'm. I pay them good salaries nowadays. I mean the salaries that, that we play these assistant coaches is, is, is phenomenal. And just coaching in general, right? There's so much money involved in college football and so I'm paying them that for a reason and, and I want them to come in here and be successful and take pride in their job and, and I don't want to be able to, especially with me calling the place still like that's my one thing that I love to do and it keeps me young and, and motivated and I love drawing plays and being creative and going out there and competing on Saturdays. So for me to be able to do that offensively like I, I have to have, you know, the, the scouting department perfect set up how I want. I gotta have a recruiting department. I gotta have, you know, now this, the new role of a general manager and the financial piece of it. And, and there's so much that ROI is a real thing in college football now where 15 years ago I didn't even know how to run an Excel spreadsheet. And, and now I know how to do those things. And when I got into coaching, like I, I never saw that aspect of it coming. And so important for Me to surround myself with a lot of smart people and let them go to work. So. So yes, I, I do get really involved on the front end.

[Bobby Bones]

You guys do the guns. Oklahoma said it has the guns, right? A lot of people do the guns. Do you watch a YouTube video to make sure you don't do it wrong? Yeah, like, and you have somebody look at you do it to make sure it looks right to the fans before you hop up in that first press conference?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

No, I was told at some point, you know, Texas Tech does it too. And obviously me. Me going there and having great connections with. With everything in Lubbock, like, you know, I. I'm supposed to put them out to the side a little bit more and point in this way. I think it's Is kind of what. What I was told and even before I even threw it up, you know, and gave a go. Pokes and so. So, yeah, I mean, I think there's just. There's great people here. The reception's been phenomenal. And just learning one step at a time, you know, how to. How to do things the Oklahoma State way.

[Bobby Bones]

Whenever you get a new job, especially one as high profile as Oklahoma State, does your phone just go insane? Not only with people, you know, congratulating you, but all the people that are now part of the new version of Oklahoma State that want to, like, reach out. Hey, let me know that, like, want to get in. Does it happen a lot?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Yeah, I think in the first two. I think day two, after it was announced, my wife and I were sitting in bed and my text messages were up to like 650 texts. Text messages. And so just sorting through that and then. And then, like you said, I mean, there's obviously a bunch of coaches that, that, you know, are congratulating me because we have great relationships. And then a bunch of coaches that, that want or need a job and everybody's reaching out for. For people that they think have a chance. And then you're sorting through, you know, the alumni base at Oklahoma State and trying to figure out, you know, through your athletic director and fundraisers. I mean, just. Just a level of importance. Not that they're not important, because I. I believe in forming relationships with everybody. Like, that's why I love this town. And I want to build genuine relationships with everybody. And so sorting through that. The first. And I think, you know, I've done this before the first six months. I mean, you're drinking from a water hose. I mean, it's. It's not. It's never going to feel like it slows down until you kind of get everything here and established and, and your culture and, and working in the weight room and your off season program. And like to me now like I love more than ever like being on the grass and having a whistle on and blowing my whistle and, and coaching the ever living dog out of these kids. Just because this involved. This job now involves so many different layers that, that it didn't 10 years ago. And it's like I earned for those moments where I'm like there's sometimes I'll sit back and reflect, you know, watching our coaches coach on the field because it's like that's my happy place. That's what I love to do. And although there are a lot of other important things that go along with.

[Bobby Bones]

This job, I'll ask you two more questions. Your dad was a coach, Basketball coach. You played basketball. Could you dunk?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

No. Are you kidding me?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. You're an athlete. You're elf. Some of those elves that can.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Magical powers? No, I could, I could always grab the rim and hang on to it. So like, and growing up in a small town in the gym, like that's what we did for fun. We went and we shot. Right. Had an amazing shot. Scored a lot of points from, from outside in basketball. So I could, I could dunk a tennis ball and so could always jump up and grab the rim and hang on and do all those things. But. But actually is a full size men's basketball. I could not get it over the hoop.

[Bobby Bones]

Final question, because you were a good punt returner as well. Like what's the key to not worrying you're about to die as it's coming toward you?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Yeah, I just got to be courageous. So the funny story. So Danny Amendola and I were in the same signing class and one of my great friends still talked to him, you know, every week. And, and so when we first got there, obviously Wes Welker was, was the hottest thing in college football and he was graduating as we were coming in. And so I remember getting there and Dana Holgerson handing us, you know, what was. It was a VHS tape at that time. And, and basically didn't give us a playbook and said, hey, if you can do this, you can play here. You need to study this this summer. So it's West Welker highlights, right? And so every night we're sitting at the vhs, you know, we're hitting stop and play and stop and play and rewinding it and. And just studied and mocked his game and then, you know, Wes had told us at some point we were going to be the next punt returners, which we were for the next four years. He told us that we don't fare catch around here. Like if, if they want somebody fair catch, tell them to do that. If not, you know, if you want to return her, it should be you guys. And so, so like we didn't fair catch and something that, you know, we took some licks from it too. I mean there were some certain situations on a great punt and hang time and gunner gets down there and we took some wild shots but, but we took great pride in it. I think, you know, that was, that was our edge, our mentality, our toughness and just love to prove people wrong. Watching somebody like Welker and then just being able to continue to what, what he built was, was a lot of fun for us.

[Bobby Bones]

Final, final question. As far as Oklahoma back on the schedule, what do you think? Bedlam back. You want to get it back?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

It's just so hard now and, and I think yes, I mean we'd love to play it. And I went to Bedlam this past weekend in basketball and the atmosphere was electric. It was in Oklahoma City. Like I think for the fans in the state, like from an economical standpoint, like it makes so much sense. At the same time, you know, you look at these people that are in the playoffs and stuff like I don't think people are getting rewarded for, for playing these non conference games. When you look at, you know, the big paydays at the end of this thing now and, and you know, in, in our conference, like if you look at some of the teams that, I mean Texas Tech's in the playoff right now and, and their non, non conference was, was not very strong. And so there's, there's going to be so many new ways to, to look at this. But just for the state and, and for the both places, I think it'd be awesome to find a middle ground and be able to play that game once a year. I mean I'd rather like we play Oregon game two next year. Like, I mean I'd much rather, you know, go down the street or come up and let's, let's, you know, battle this thing out on the gridiron.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's a haul. That or we went to Oregon. That's a haul to get up there. Holy crap. Coach, rooting for you. Really? I like Oklahoma State. They beat the crap out of my team last couple years. But rooting for you. Congratulations on the job and Have a happy holiday, Coach Bobby.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

I appreciate you man.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Julian Edelman]

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[Bobby Bones]

As we look at the NFL games this weekend, do you care at all about the Cowboys?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Not really.

[Bobby Bones]

You're out again.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

No, not really, dude. I mean, I'll watch a little bit of it.

[Bobby Bones]

Mike, you? Nah, I think I'm done after that loss.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

It's terrible, dude. It's heartbreaking. I mean, you watch the Minnesota game and you're like, all right, this should be pretty easy. Let's go. And they play like that. You're like, why do I want to watch the rest of the season?

[Bobby Bones]

The Minnesota game and the Cardinals game.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah. Stupid losses. Stupid, stupid losses.

[Bobby Bones]

So then where does your sports viewing go?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Oh, I'm gonna watch the spurs now, baby. Let's go. Go Spurs. Go.

[Bobby Bones]

Regular season Spurs. Yeah, they're good.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

They are so good.

[Bobby Bones]

They did lose the cup, though.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

It's all right, you know. Did you see the video of Wimy crying? I guess he was going through some.

[Bobby Bones]

Because he lost a cup.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

No, he lost like a friend of his.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah, he did say, yeah, I lost someone. I saw him in the press conference.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

So, I mean, you see that and you're like, I mean, I get it. You're not playing. And they didn't play him a lot. He didn't. He didn't even start. So the fact that they were in the cup, they beat Oklahoma City. I mean, pretty legit, dude. They're. They're so fun to watch, which hasn't. They haven't been fun to watch in a long, long time. So it's pretty cool to see it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, they're very young and they're very good. Yeah, it's a whole different team to. And Wimby's out there.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, it really is. I saw him have like, four blocks at one point in a row.

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[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

You're not.

[Bobby Bones]

Nope.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Get out.

[Bobby Bones]

So you're done with the Cowboys because they could make the playoffs.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I know, dude. I know. Well, there's a 2% chance it doesn't.

[Bobby Bones]

If they win out and the Eagles Don't. Maybe even the Eagles can win one game.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

We win the division. That'd be so stupid. And then for what? To lose the first round again?

[Bobby Bones]

But it doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. Just get there.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I know, dude. I know. And you know what? I think Tick tock is pissing me off on purpose.

[Bobby Bones]

Go ahead.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

They're giving me, like, videos of Dak and his family. Like, oh, holiday seasons. Dak and his wife. Like, oh, there's the baby. Dax being a dad. What?

[Bobby Bones]

Stop making you like him.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I don't want to see this.

[Bobby Bones]

Stop making you see him as a person.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, I don't want to see that.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, like, you want to objectify him as only an athlete. That makes you happy or sad. Stop showing the true depth of a human. Wow.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yes. Show. Show me a shot of him in Pratt, like, alone in the practice field, like, throwing in a target, you know, and being, like, getting better. Don't show me him.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, okay, it's. But you want to see. You want to see him getting better all the time.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yes, man. Working on it, you know, or like, just head on hand on head, you know, like looking at the playbook and making notes.

You don't want him spending time with his baby. You want him watching film.

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Okay. So I put the Cowboys in. Into the calculator. If they win their final three games. This is before I put in the Eagles. Just. If they just win the final three games and they're playing the Chargers, Washington and the Giants, and I think they can win the last two, possibly they can be the Chargers. The Chargers are playing for something. If they win the last three, they're at 4%. Wow.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Now, so you're saying there's a chance.

[Bobby Bones]

I am. So if Washington beats. Let's say they win their three. If Washington beats Philadelphia, you're now 12%. Week 17, if Buffalo beats Philadelphia, they could do that. You're at 22%.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Oh, that's without. Oh, that's with the Washington. Washington win.

[Bobby Bones]

If Washington wins week three, you're at 100%, dude.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, we're in.

[Bobby Bones]

If you win all three and the Eagles lose all three, you're in the playoffs.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Whoa. 100% Marcus Mariota.

[Bobby Bones]

One week at a time, dude.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

This is like. This is like, hey, man, you see the hot girl over there? You have 2% chance to be with a hot girl. Like, what?

[Bobby Bones]

You know what? Two people get to be with the hot girl. So why, why, why not you? The fact that you're giving up while you still Have a chance.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah. Wouldn't you, though? No, this. Come on. If this were Arkansas.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I would not give up. If we are. We got a chip in a chair. I'm still in.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Why not us, bro? I mean, I'm so frustrated with Jerry Jones, but, like, why not?

[Bobby Bones]

We could do it.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Why are you frustrated with Jerry Jones?

I've always been frustrated.

I know, but, see, people can't stand him. People love to jump on. On Jerry Jones. Like, remember I was telling you, the.

[Bobby Bones]

Ref, like, three Cowboys fans on the show.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

You didn't know that?

Well, four, including you.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not a Cowboys fan, but where do you. Where is your Cowboyness? Brandon. Brandon.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I grew up in West Texas. All of my family were Houston Oilers fans, but I live, like, four hours away from Dallas and grew up loving Dallas.

I never knew Oilers fans. Like, I was surrounded.

[Bobby Bones]

You're a real Cowboys fan. Do you get sad when they lose?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, but it's been so common that it's just so frustrating, you know?

See, I'm not frustrated. Like, there's no point in being frustrated at a team that's trying to do their best and then they don't do well. Right. It's fine.

Every week you come in here frustrated.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. You've changed. You flop.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Like, that's not true. Some weeks I come in and be like, we're going to the super bowl, baby. It's a roller coaster. It goes up and down. But you know what? It's entertaining. I. My problem is I just need to guard my heart a little more because when they do lose, it hurts for a week.

I think that's what I've done over the past few years. I'm just like, man, I just. It's just not. Not worth it to get all worked up when you know the outcome.

But I don't. I don't like the. The hate on Jerry Jones. I don't like that, like, okay, he's doing. I mean, he's trying to win, too. Everyone's trying to win.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, you need them to lose all three games. I was putting every scenario on the calculator. You have to win all three, and they have to lose all three for that 100. Yeah. Yes. Then you get in. But I was seeing if there was a way. If they only won one, it looks like you're just. You need them to lose all three.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Okay. So if they. So even if they loot. If they lose two games and we win all.

[Bobby Bones]

It looks like according to what I was putting in, you're still not gonna make it. Okay.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

So that's. And that's what I'm saying. Why get my hopes up high?

[Bobby Bones]

Ran to Seahawks tonight. That should be an awesome game.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

So good.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I bet so much on the 49ers won the Super Bowl. I need the Seahawks to win and not because the 49ers may not get in, but I want them to get the one seed and there's a chance that can happen.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Where's. What's the status with Adams? Is he playing?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think so.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

But I do not know. Kevin, the guy looking that up and he ain't here.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Can you cash out like. Or is it.

Is it an option?

[Bobby Bones]

You can cash out if it presents itself to you. So I could bet the 49ers win the super bowl, which I did bet a thousand bucks to win. 23,000. Whoa. And so I like the odds so much. That's what I jumped at. It wasn't so much that I think they're the team. Like, gun to my nuts. I probably ain't betting San Francisco to win it.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I've never heard gun to my nuts.

[Bobby Bones]

But if you're like, look at the odds. What team do you like that can give you really good odds? It was San Francisco. Because I think the NFC is just a bunch of good teams and any of them can beat anybody. I like the Rams probably the most. But if San Francisco get that. That one seed and get a buy, then you start to get the option to be paid out. The closer you get to actually making the money.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Very cool.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Who's the favorite now?

[Bobby Bones]

The Rams.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

You don't think the Bills are a good bet?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. In the afc, I think they're the team. Yeah.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I mean, I think this is their.

[Bobby Bones]

Year only because you're not going to have most likely Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, or.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Joe Burrow to stop them.

[Bobby Bones]

All three of those quarterbacks probably aren't going to be in the afc. You do have a lot of the second year guys. You do have Bo Nix. You do have Drake May, you do have Caleb Williams.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

All guys.

[Bobby Bones]

But they're nfc.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Can you imagine if the Bills lose the Afghanistan?

No way, dude. I think. I think this is their year to win.

I do too.

I just.

[Bobby Bones]

They're gonna go in as if they don't win and they might win their division, so. But they could go in as like even a six if the Patriots end up winning that division, which the Patriots still probably will. But they probably won't get the one seed because Denver's set Up for the one seed, but who knows? It's awesome. Three weeks left.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't have a team.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

You do. You're a Cowboys fan.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'm. We lost. We're down $5,900, dude.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

No kidding.

What about your Panthers, man? Is that so?

[Bobby Bones]

Here's the thing.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

I'm.

[Bobby Bones]

I. I keep pounding for life. Obviously, that's all I do.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, you're a pounder.

[Bobby Bones]

Nobody pounds like me. I've been pounding every day for years. So, problem is, we have the Buccaneers in our money league, and we're down $6,000, and we need them to go to the playoffs. We need them to not only go to the playoffs, but win this game just for that.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

So your fandom is. You're not even thinking about your fandom?

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Nope.

[Bobby Bones]

It's all about money for my guys. Eddie and Kevin.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Please, man. We need this.

[Bobby Bones]

I get it. So we need the bucks to win this week. My kids need to play the Panthers. Yeah. Have you told your wife yet? You're down?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I'm not telling my wife. That's my line. When I'm at the casino, you know, and the ball's rolling, I'm like, guys, I need this. I need this for my kids. And the dealer. The dealer always looks at me, goes, you probably shouldn't be here then, man. Come on, man. 21 red, dude. For my kids, please.

[Bobby Bones]

Anybody see the. Bill Belichick with his girlfriend, new picture in Atlanta at the cheerleading competition?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

No, I didn't see this.

[Bobby Bones]

Mike, you see it?

[Odoo Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

It looks weird still. It looks really weird, too, because her face is painted. The picture of them together. She has, like, paint on her face because that was, like, her outfit.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Oh, my gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

I fully felt grandpa. Granddaughter. It was very much grandpa vibes. Yeah. And Let it rip. Ain't nobody doing anything wrong. Let it rip. But it is weird. It can be weird and not wrong. Does she have, like, face paint on? Yeah, it looks like a kid at her play.

[Julian Edelman]

It does?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

So what is it? Her competition?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, the adult cheerleading competition.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Oh, my goodness, Bill.

I didn't know that was a thing.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, that was where they saw him the last time. Became a news story. He was just sitting there watching her at her adult cheerleading competition. And because they're not real people to us, it's only weird when we talk about it. Imagine you see them together, like, kissing. Yeah, dude, that's. And you don't know. And you don't know. That's Bill Belichick. You don't know the story, but you see like a 24 year old kissing a 75 year old. You're like, grandpa kisses his kid. Weird.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, that's messed up.

That's a little weird.

But more than that, I think the family, like, how does the family like say you're just a cousin and like a cousin of hers? I mean, like, oh my gosh, what is happening?

[Bobby Bones]

Like, well, you know what's happening because you probably know her and if you know her and that she has a history of. She dated another older rich guy, a lot older rich guy, before Bill Belichick.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

And he thinks he's in love. Dude.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm sure he's so aware.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

He's aware of what?

[Bobby Bones]

It ain't love. I'm sure he's so aware.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

So he's just kind of like he's in it too.

[Bobby Bones]

And they probably do have a relationship and it's great, but I think even he's aware, I think they're both aware. It's a symbiotic relationship. They're both getting something from each other and they probably do like each other and they may even love each other. But how much, if you're 24 years old, can you actually romantically love a 74 year old guy, I'm not sure his age, knowing he's gonna die in 10 years. You can't even fully invest your heart and soul because you know there's not a life together. So even if you do plan to fully love them, there's part of you that's keeping you from because you know they're gonna die soon. Yeah.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Mike, he's 73, her ex was 64 and her dad is 49.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Whoa, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like you is her dad that.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I'm 46, but yeah, I see what you're saying. It's messed up, man.

[Bobby Bones]

The new head football coach at Sacramento State used to be a backup dancer for MC Hammer.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

That's cool.

[Bobby Bones]

Sacramento State has found its next head football coach. Name is Alonzo Carter. He joins the Hornets from Arizona where he had been the running backs coach and assistant head coach for the Wildcats. Carter was an assistant coach at San Jose State for seven seasons. He's also a former backup dancer and choreographer for MC Hammer.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Dude, those guys went hard though. Do you remember those dancers?

I saw the video. He did the dance in front of the team.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't see the video.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

That was great.

[Bobby Bones]

I like the introductory. Hey, team, what's up?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

That's hilarious.

[Bobby Bones]

Alonzo Carter replaces Brennan Marion, who went 75 in his one season at Sacramento State. Marion left earlier to be the offensive coordinator at Colorado. I did see two not to stay. So Nashville centric and we don't because the Titans suck. But Cam Ward wants to be involved in the head coach search. I don't think I let my rookie quarterback and my second year guy be that involved in the head coach.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I mean, you can make him feel like he's involved, right?

I mean, it's. It's better than Amy Adams Strunk in the whole ownership, you know?

Is it, though?

I don't know.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it's a. It's a bad organization.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

It's just a mess.

I also saw who. Somebody's house got robbed. Who was it?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah. Jeffrey Simmons.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Jeffrey Simmons house got robbed while they were playing.

[Bobby Bones]

So we talked about that in the NFL show, and I asked Castle, like, when you play, did you have somebody that would stay at your house? Because if I'm ever on the road, if I'm ever gone, we have somebody at our house for that exact reason.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

With lots of guns.

[Bobby Bones]

If it's known that I'm gone, I need somebody to be there because it's known I'm gone. So if we're gone, somebody's always at our house. And if you're an NFL player, I would think you would have somebody at your house. However, if you don't, I would think if you're breaking into an NFL player's house when he's gone, you would think somebody was at his house for that same reason.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

So my theory is it wasn't somebody who just knew he was gone from seeing it on tv. It's somebody on the inside. Inside that knew nobody was there. Not only was he gone, but that he didn't put anybody in his house because you would think there'd be alarms or somebody in his house. Yeah, he's robbed of all kinds of stuff.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Dude, the more I think about, like, just robbing houses, you know? Like, I think every time I'm in an Uber and I'm going to the airport, you know, and, like, they see me lock my house, and they know no one's in there. And I'm. They're like, hey, where are you headed to? Oh, I'm headed to New York for five days. You know, like, that's the easiest. Like, all right, write that address down. They will be gone for five days.

[Bobby Bones]

But you don't know if somebody's gonna be there or not. So it's probably. Hmm, can I even break in? It's not the whole family. It's a home Alone ban. Because I think then, yes, but if one person's gone, you probably still assume that somebody's going to be there. Especially if it's just one person. That's why I think it's really inside, not just somebody random knowing he's gone. Because I would think somebody would be there. Yeah, it sucked.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Could be that that gang that did.

[Bobby Bones]

Joe Burrows, and they were from another country.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah. I don't remember what country was. That's why I refrained from saying the country, Mike.

[Bobby Bones]

What country were they from? I feel like. And I will not refrain. I feel like it was a Latin. I. I.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

For some reason, Chilean gang comes to my mind.

[Bobby Bones]

It was Chilean. Yeah. South America. Latin.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, Latin.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. South America.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

And then they get pulled over. They got all Joe Burrow stuff in there. Shirts, jerseys.

[Bobby Bones]

You see from the cop cam when they, like, pop down the back of that suv, this dude's got a LSU national championship. Yeah.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Okay, guys.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

You obviously did it.

[Bobby Bones]

That is it. We appreciate you guys being here. Thanks again to Coach Morse for coming on with us.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Gaspers go.

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Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Regular season, though, like in basketball.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

What did you watch the Cup?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I watched the clips, especially of the Knicks and one of the players, I forget who, maybe Bronson, stuck his butt up the other guy's butt as they were celebrating.

[Podcast Host or Guest (25 Whistles)]

Oh.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

And somebody said, I saw the. The caption. It was like, kimberly, I caught this on camera.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And it's just dudes being dudes.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Like when you flick.

[Bobby Bones]

They were doing on court, they had the trophy. Who is it? Josh Hart. Josh Hart does what?

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Puts thumb up Jalen Brunson's butt.

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

He. Like, they're in their clothes and he's shy.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

I feel like Jalen Brunson wouldn't like that.

[Bobby Bones]

Or Jalen Brunson really likes that.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

You remember we used to play golf. Every time we'd bend over to get.

[Bobby Bones]

The ball, shoved the club right in the butt.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

It was terrible, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, we're acting like, oh, that's crazy. We did the same crap. But they were riding the trophy ceremony.

[Podcast Co-host or Guest]

Josh Hart tweeted it was AI. And then the next post is, oh, dang, it's in 4K and from 80 different angles.

That's funny.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, thank you, guys. Have a great rest of the day. We will see you next week. Bye, everybody. Thank you. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at brandonray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bonesports. Thanks to our crew co host Ashley producer Eddie segment producer at Kickoff Kevin and executive producer at Mike Diestro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles.

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Julian Edelman]

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