25W: Bobby Calls Eddie Out for His Instagram Posts + 3x Super Bowl Champion Mark Schlereth on 20 Knee Surgeries & if the Broncos are the Real Deal + Top 10 Toms of All-Time

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show: 25W - Bobby Calls Eddie Out for His Instagram Posts + 3x Super Bowl Champion Mark Schlereth + Top 10 Toms of All-Time

Date: August 18, 2025
Podcast: The Bobby Bones Show / 25 Whistles
Host: Bobby Bones
Guests/Co-Hosts: Eddie, Kevin, Brandon, Casey, Mark Schlereth (guest interview)
Episode Focus: Social media antics, sports media, life advice from a legendary NFL lineman, and lots of playful banter

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Episode Overview

This episode serves up the usual mix of friendly ribbing, sports talk, and personal stories, highlighted by an in-depth and candid interview with three-time Super Bowl champion Mark Schlereth. Bobby confronts co-host Eddie about his peculiar Instagram posts, the crew debates "the Top 10 Toms of All Time," and there’s a humorous peek at listener-inspired sports songs. Mark Schlereth shares his unconventional football journey, tough-guy ethos, and hard-won wisdom on pain, team culture, and broadcasting.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Roasting Eddie’s Instagram Habits

• Bobby puts on his "hater hat" (09:23) and lightly grills Eddie about posting seemingly random, mundane Instagram content (car line photos, lawnmowers, salad tutorials, kids’ shoes).
  • Bobby: “Why are you posting all the stupid stuff on Instagram now? …You’re trying to be some sort of weird info…”
  • Eddie tries to defend his influence: “I got an alert that said I can start making money!” (11:23)
• The gang audits Eddie’s posts, checks 'View Insights', and reveals the small (but real) digital hustle money Eddie’s earning — typically $10-30 per post.
  • Eddie: "A lawnmower, 22 bucks. That's gambling money, dude." (13:31)

Key Quote:

“You made fun of Kevin and so I just wanted to bring that back and show you how that feels because it sucks.”
— Bobby Bones (11:42)

[09:23–16:49]

2. Social Media Strategy 101

• Bobby’s Advice: “Pick a lane and stay in it.” (14:13)
  • Consistency gears your content to reach a particular audience. For example, Bobby sticks to music; Kevin does "baby stuff" on TikTok.
  • Pro tip for engagement: End a post by asking for input: “What did I miss? What can I do better?” (18:00)
• Eddie struggles to find a niche: “It’s tough though, dude. How do you think of, like, every day posting something?” (15:36)
• Kevin comments on content consistency: "Mine's consistent content." (14:03)

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3. Top 10 Toms of All Time – Bobby’s List Game

• Bobby presents his sauna-brainstormed “Top 10 Toms.”
  • Notable picks:
    • Tom Petty (#1)
    • Tom Brady (#3)
    • Tom Hanks (#5)
    • Tom DeLong (#8)
    • Tom Cruise (#10)
    • Thomas Edison (#4)
    • Tom Selleck (#7)
    • Tom Bergeron (#2, the “nicest guy ever”)
    • Thomas Rhett (#9)
    • Tom Morello (#6)
• Playful guessing ensues:
  • Mike: “Tom DeLong.”
  • Eddie—surprised by missing Tom Green: “Pretty good!”
  • Bobby: “Tom Green, not on the list.”
• Bobby’s Criteria: Mix of pop culture impact and personal nostalgia.

Key Quote:

“Possibly the greatest American rock star… Tom Petty, number one Tom of all time.”
— Bobby Bones (20:33)

[17:21–23:23]

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4. Guest Interview: Mark Schlereth – Pain, Perseverance, and Team Culture

Background: Mark is a 3x Super Bowl winner (Redskins & Broncos), respected broadcaster, and host of “The Stinkin' Truth” podcast.
[25:24–52:46]

Football Roots & Alaska Upbringing

• Alaska childhood: “In the summertime, it’s 20 hours of daylight ... the further north you go, the more daylight you’ve got.” (26:14)
• Limited high school exposure: Only seven games and little competition.
• Choosing Idaho over Hawaii: “At least it snows there. I can’t wake up to 300 days of sunshine...that would drive me crazy.” (27:35)

Unorthodox NFL Journey

• Lightly recruited, played multiple positions, injuries galore: Was even retired by college due to injury before convincing them to let him play senior year—then switched sides of the ball and impressed scouts.
• Unique draft story:
  • “I crashed [Marvin Washington’s] workout and absolutely whipped his ass and everything ... And that's how I got on the radar.” (29:20)
  • “I don’t play a down in the NFL if it’s not for my teammate, Marvin Washington.” (29:20)
  • Later, Mark got Marvin signed to a Super Bowl-winning Broncos team as payback—“So we win the Super Bowl 33 together.” (29:20)

Offensive Line Culture & Media

• The Broncos’ “silent” o-line: “It’s like this secret mushroom society. Nobody knows what we’re doing except us.”
• On later-life broadcasting: “I saved up all the talking so I could spit it all out now.” (33:03)
• Locker room secrets:
  • Hard for good pros to overcome the "gravitational pull" of "a couple turds" (toxic teammates).
  • “I don’t care how great an athlete you are — if you’re a garbage human, you are a detriment to the success of that team.” (38:10)

Playing Through Pain & Living with Injury

• Injury tally: 29 surgeries, 20 knee surgeries, and an anecdote about checking himself out of the hospital to play Monday Night Football after kidney surgery (44:08).
  • “There’s no sane person on earth that would do those things.”
  • “From the time I was 18 years old, I’ve known nothing but pain…if you put my body on somebody else that’s my age, they’re checking themselves in the hospital.” (45:45)
  • Still, he’s not a victim: “I would do it all over again.”
  • “Some of the best men I know, fathers, spiritual leaders, I know played in the NFL.” (45:45)

NFL Today and Broadcasting Challenges

• On the modern Broncos:
  • “Hey man, they’re an outstanding football team... you’re not running the ball on the Denver Broncos.”
  • “Bo Nix will lead this team to the playoffs.” (48:54)
• On making football accessible:
  • “...my producer will get in my ear going, nobody in America knows what that means. And I'm like, what do you, what are you talking about? Like, everybody knows you can't upkick a four-eye…” (51:31)
  • Mission: bring football to life for the general public.

Memorable Quotes:

“If you want to make money as an influencer in a specific area, you gotta be consistent in that area.”
— Bobby Bones (15:15)

"I love to celebrate the guy who beat [the ‘turd’], right? I love to celebrate the excitement..."
— Mark Schlereth (40:30)

“From the time I was 18 years old, I’ve known nothing but pain.”
— Mark Schlereth (45:45)

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5. Sports, Music, & Making Fun of Each Other

• Brandon’s Cubs song: Got paid $40 for a jingle that played every game throughout 2007.
• Casey’s Jets song: “Just about the pain and suffering I’ve endured as a Jet fan for the last 14 years.” (58:00)
  • Delivers a Billy Joel-esque tune loaded with tongue-in-cheek references to infamous Jets moments—“A butt fumble, coked out coach and a penis scandal...”
  • Playful comparison to viral cult fan singers.
• Bobby jokes: “That’s $40 more than Casey made for his song.” (61:49)

[54:39–62:01]

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “You made fun of Kevin and so I just wanted to bring that back and show you how that feels because it sucks.” (11:42) — Bobby Bones

• “Pick a lane and stay in it.” (14:13) — Bobby Bones, on social media branding

• "Possibly the greatest American rock star... Tom Petty, number one Tom of all time." (20:33) — Bobby Bones

• "From the time I was 18 years old, I've known nothing but pain." (45:45) — Mark Schlereth

• "I don’t care how great an athlete you are—if you’re a garbage human, you are a detriment to the success of that team." (38:10) — Mark Schlereth

• "Some of the best men I know, some of the greatest fathers, some of the greatest leaders...played in the NFL." (45:45) — Mark Schlereth

• "Bo Nix will lead this team to the playoffs." (48:54) — Mark Schlereth, on the Broncos' quarterback

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Bobby calls out Eddie’s Instagram posts: 09:23–16:49
• Top 10 Toms game: 17:21–23:23
• Mark Schlereth interview: 25:24–52:46
• Cubs & Jets songs, playful closing banter: 54:39–62:01

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Episode Tone

Casual, teasing, buddies-in-the-studio energy balanced with authenticity and insight, especially when Mark Schlereth takes the mic. There’s a blend of laughter, learning, and real talk—from Instagram hustles to the toll of NFL trenches.

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Summary

For listeners looking for a mixture of sports insight, funny personal anecdotes, and a masterclass in both grit and social media skepticism, this episode is a winner. The Mark Schlereth interview is packed with raw stories and advice about pain, leadership, and the identity shift after pro sports. Elsewhere, the show's signature banter keeps things light, with a recurring emphasis on not taking yourself (or your social content) too seriously—unless you’re trying to make that influencer cash.

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Listen for: Football wisdom, creative list-making, good-natured hypocrisy, and why your salad post could literally be worth $30.

Transcript

[Bobby Bones]

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[Eddie]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Kevin]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Mike]

This is a podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking football and they all wear a whistle yet stupid. But what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles.

[Bobby Bones]

Here we go. Blow it. Thank you. Welcome. We'll talk to Mark Schlereth in a little bit who I know from ESPN and then I follow him a lot on social media. He's got the Stinkin Truth podcast on YouTube. Check it out. Glad to be here. And I must start by saying, as I thought, Joe Milton sucks.

[Eddie]

Joe Milton's so bad.

[Bobby Bones]

I just want to say, listen, I talked about this two weeks ago. His highlight tapes are freaking awesome. Every step of the way. Michigan, Tennessee, the Patriots, the Cowboys. Cowboys trade a fourth rounder for them. Is that a fourth round?

[Kevin]

Yeah, I believe so.

[Bobby Bones]

Or maybe they're going to Trey Lance, whatever is something similar. But.

[Eddie]

And Jerry's saying like, man, we got a good one here.

[Bobby Bones]

Like 70 yard bombs. Dude, he sucks pretty bad.

[Eddie]

It's pretty bad. 5th and 7th like, preseason means nothing. Right. But when you see crap like that, it's so bad.

[Bobby Bones]

No touch nothing. And again, we don't have touch, we don't have arms. We can't throw it hard, Harder, softer middle. Just know that. But I warned everybody this was going to happen, and I'm glad he sucks right now, because Dak doesn't need that crap, and I'm not a Cowboys fan, but Dak doesn't need everybody screaming about how good the backup quarterback is. Correct. Because you didn't really worry about that in the. Even though the Cowboys had a history of their excellent backup winning a lot of games. Cooper Rush, he's with the Ravens now, right?

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You know where he is? That a plus, backup. Not threatening the starter, but can win some games when he comes in.

[Eddie]

It's what you want, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Milton's terrible.

[Eddie]

I. I don't. I mean, Kevin said the same thing, too, right?

[Kevin]

Like, yeah, we saw it.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

And people get all excited. Yeah. With the Patriots, you just hear about it. Cause you follow the team, obviously, and you just hear his. His arm, his athleticism. He does backflips. Oh, my goodness. Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Every throw is pretty bad, Jess. So did you watch him any.

[Eddie]

No, I can't. I can't watch them here. Like, for some reason, whenever the Cowboys are playing preseason, I'm like, yes. I'm so excited. NFL Network. Then they end up showing, like, the Giants versus the jets, and I'm like, okay, I guess I'm not going to watch that till they show it tomorrow.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. But with TikTok, you can watch every snap. I watch every snap of every player that I want to see.

[Eddie]

Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Everybody's got. Oh, you.

[Eddie]

Do you search it out or how do you do that? Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, I've watched. I watched every Dylan Gabriel snap. Watched every shitter snap from week one. I watched. I watched your boy, the Patriots, the tackle from lsu, Campbell.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Well, watch Will Campbell played. Really? Both games.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

He's gonna be a stud.

[Kevin]

I know. I'm excited.

[Bobby Bones]

He's gonna be a stud.

[Kevin]

So excited.

[Bobby Bones]

So, yeah, you can watch anything.

[Eddie]

I guess. They fed me ewers. I didn't really want to see it.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's cool.

[Eddie]

Quinn Ewers. Like, for some reason, they fed me those.

[Kevin]

Yeah. He looks bad, too.

[Bobby Bones]

In practice, leading up to it in camp.

[Mark Schlereth]

Great.

[Bobby Bones]

They were like, he might be the guy. He might be the guy to split Tua. He's really having a bad run.

[Kevin]

Yeah. He doesn't look like he's having fun.

[Bobby Bones]

My favorite Thing though of last week was Michael Penis Jr.

[Kevin]

I saw your story and I didn't get it at first. And then I saw making it around and I was like, oh, I didn't see the. I didn't see that at first.

[Eddie]

All I wrote was it's a graphic.

[Bobby Bones]

Heck of a press conference. The local affiliate in Atlanta and obviously it was autocorrect. They wrote Michael Penis Jr. Course when it's. You spell it P, E N I X. Now I'm sure when you write that there's a little squiggly red line underneath it that goes. You've misspelled this.

[Eddie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm sure they had to have some sort of meeting going. Okay, Cryo guy, graphics guys, Cryo, Chiron, whatever it is.

[Eddie]

Chiron.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, you guys have to know and watch for this because it's gonna spell penis every time you write pinnocks. And so I don't think it was anybody messing with anyone. I think they just got autocorrected. And he's up there, he's talking to the table and it says Michael Penis Jr. That's one letter, man. So funny. And so I had listeners and I don't expect everybody to know everything. And again I didn't even point to the fact that what his real name was, that it was a mess up. I just wrote heck of a press conference and listeners were messaging me like man, if I had his last name, I don't, I think I'd change it.

[Eddie]

That's funny.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So big shout out to Michael Penis Jr. And you know he got that his whole life.

[Kevin]

Oh yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And thank God he was a great athlete because imagine your name being Penix and being me.

[Eddie]

Oh gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

Because it'd be because pinnocks, right? You can say his name Michael Penix but everybody's going to call you Penix when they read it.

[Kevin]

Absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

They're calling roll the first time they're on the intercom, they're Michael Penix. And everybody goes hee hee hee. Sounds like penis. And if you're not a great athlete, you know you got called penis boy all the time. Heck, I got called that. Now my last name's not even near penis. So. Thought that was pretty funny. We played some golf last week. I played with my father in law, my brother in law and we went out for nine holes, just my father in law and I. Like on Saturday night it was pretty late, so at like 6:30 we go and we play nine holes. He chipped in two balls from over 50 yards. Two in the one round. And it's. He's a fine golfer, about like us. And they chipped in two from over 40, 50 yards in nine holes, by the way. Everybody's mind was blown. His mind was blown. It wasn't like a normal thing, but we're playing a par three, and I hit mine on the green, probably 15ft from it, and don't. I'm bogey in the hole, like an idiot. But he hits his really short 50 yards in front of a trap to the right. And so I'm like, all right, get a couple strokes here. And he. Boom. Right up. One bounce. Boom. Right in the hole.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'm like, oh, like, got it. Can't. Can't hate. Got to respect. Can't even be mad. Like, respect. I bogey the hole. I'm pissed, so whatever. And I'm like, dude, we hardly ever get to see anybody chip in. We're like, on hole seven, 60 yards out, hits a perfect flutter, highball lands, and I'm like, oh, my God, that's going in again. You can tell, like, seven feet out because it's already rolling. Perfect. And again, I'm like, what is it?

[Eddie]

Gosh.

[Bobby Bones]

It was. It was amazing. It was amazing. So. Never seen that before.

[Kevin]

Such a cool feeling.

[Bobby Bones]

Chipped. It's.

[Eddie]

I've only never done it.

[Kevin]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

I've only ever chipped in a few balls. Ever. Never.

[Mark Schlereth]

Two.

[Bobby Bones]

And it's so rare that when it happens, you're just like, I don't believe that. That's crazy. He did. Two is wild. It was wild. He.

[Kevin]

Scotty Shefflered him.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, man. What a shot.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Deep rough, too. That Scheffler shot was awesome.

[Kevin]

Yeah, but your father in law.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Way better, though. Way better.

[Bobby Bones]

Way better. Because it never happened.

[Kevin]

Exactly.

[Bobby Bones]

Scheffler did. It was like. Yeah, but it's a Tuesday.

[Eddie]

That guy.

[Bobby Bones]

So play golf. DJs really good. DJ whooped us.

[Kevin]

He's got a nice swing.

[Bobby Bones]

He's an athlete. He played college baseball. He's a college coach. It's so annoying. I beat him the last time we played before that. But he, like, crushed. I mean, he. It wasn't even close. We went and played at the. It was Monday, so my club was closed. It's the one day it's closed. And so we went and played at the Opry. Opry Mills.

[Eddie]

Mm.

[Mark Schlereth]

In Gaylord.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Whatever it's called. Over at the Opry.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Gaylord Opry. Sorry, Eddie. I don't say it right.

[Eddie]

Well, I think that's.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't worry, I got something coming from you too.

[Mike]

Whoa, whoa.

[Bobby Bones]

The course is nice. It's really nice. It costs. It's pretty expensive, I was going to say. Yeah, but it's really nice. They do a really good job of keeping that course up. And it's public, so we just jumped on it. But it's like 115 bucks or something. A person.

[Kevin]

That's like any decent course nowadays.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what it is.

[Eddie]

It's expensive.

[Bobby Bones]

It's expensive to play golf. Dude, I'm asking a question.

[Eddie]

What's up, man?

[Bobby Bones]

And I got to put my hater hat on because it's going to sound like I'm a hater.

[Eddie]

But you're not a hater. You're putting the hat on.

[Bobby Bones]

I kind of am, but I'm only doing it because one, it's funny.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

And two, I just got to kind of know.

[Eddie]

Go ahead.

[Bobby Bones]

Why are you posting all the stupid stuff on Instagram now? What do you mean you posting the stupidest stuff on Instagram? Are you trying to be some sort of weird info you were giving? No, no. And this is where it comes from. You were giving Kevin crap because Kevin was posting stuff. Your stuff's the worst I've ever seen.

[Eddie]

The worst you've ever seen?

[Bobby Bones]

You're posting a picture of like the car line.

[Eddie]

Yeah, it just been on a pickup school line.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't. Because I really don't give a crap. But it's like all out of nowhere. All of a sudden. Eddie's trying to be this influencer and it's the weirdest, goofiest stuff. So I'd like to bring up. I like to share a few things. Had you not gone at Kevin, I don't think I would even thought about it.

[Eddie]

Did you think the same thing, Kevin?

[Kevin]

Yeah. Even my wife was like, why is Eddie all over my feed?

[Bobby Bones]

So, okay, he posted a picture of a lawnmower. Yeah. Do you just want stuff to exist on your feet?

[Eddie]

No, no. We were talking about the lawnmower. It's stuff that we've talked about on the show. It's an update.

[Bobby Bones]

Posted. Posted a lawnmower. The next one is you drawing on a piece of paper and it just says the creative juices are flowing.

[Eddie]

Yeah, okay. I was drawing.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Stupid. Next up, it's a picture of your kids shoes.

[Eddie]

Yeah, it's just whatever. I looked in my photo and like there's six pictures of that.

[Bobby Bones]

Pretty cute.

[Eddie]

I thought I'd share that.

[Bobby Bones]

The next is the car line.

[Eddie]

Oh, gosh, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

That's just cars.

[Eddie]

I Was. I was in that line for 30 minutes. What else is like.

[Kevin]

Then he's hanging out the window on the next picture, right?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I was just like, the next is. He's telling a story about him writing a song with John Daly. Yeah, that was cool. And the next is a picture of a salad and he's like, let me help you make this salad. So.

[Eddie]

Yeah, no, but you got to flip. I show you how to make the salad.

[Bobby Bones]

I know. And you sound like you're total goober in this clip.

[Eddie]

Goober.

[Bobby Bones]

Hi, everybody. It's Eddie here, man.

[Eddie]

I'm a food.

[Bobby Bones]

You're not food person. You can be. And that's my first post. But now you're not gone at Kevin. I would care nothing. You're being the biggest hypocrite because this is goofy as crap and out of nowhere.

[Eddie]

It's not out of nowhere.

[Kevin]

What's the reason?

[Eddie]

I got an alert that said I can start making money.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, now that makes sense.

[Eddie]

I'm making cash now.

[Bobby Bones]

I totally understand. And great.

[Eddie]

But it's gotten to the point where I'm like, I gotta post. Like, I don't even know what to post. Oh, look at that. A car line. This is terrible. Post it.

[Mark Schlereth]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Fully understand. However, you made fun of Kevin and so I just wanted to bring that back and show you how that feels because it sucks.

[Kevin]

Thank you.

[Eddie]

Well, Kevin, have you. What else have you been posting?

[Kevin]

I did the. No, I drank the milk. I posted that video. People love that video. I tried.

[Bobby Bones]

How much did you make on your stuff?

[Eddie]

Well, on YouTube.

[Bobby Bones]

View insights. I'll tell you exactly how much. Proposal.

[Eddie]

Well, but it's always delayed. So on average, every picture I've posted is about 30, 35 bucks.

[Bobby Bones]

No way.

[Eddie]

Yes way. Dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Let me see your phone.

[Mark Schlereth]

Yes.

[Eddie]

Check it out. That's why I'm like, I need to post every day. I can retire on this money.

[Kevin]

Retirement.

[Bobby Bones]

Pull up your feed. I know how to get there.

[Eddie]

No, no, I got you.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't. I don't. Dude, there's nothing in your phone that I would want to see. There would only be some. No, I don't want this.

[Eddie]

What do you mean? That's the insights.

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no. I'm going to each picture.

[Brandon]

That salad actually looks great.

[Eddie]

Thank you, Brandon.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. View insights on the salad. Eddie made $8.

[Mark Schlereth]

Yeah, yeah.

[Eddie]

Well, but that's. That's because I just posted yesterday. I hear you, but I'm saying on average, the lifespan of that picture, it makes me about 30 bucks.

[Bobby Bones]

I hear you. Let me take a Look, the second one here. View Insights. Eddie talking about the John Daly. $10.

[Eddie]

No, go later.

[Bobby Bones]

Stop. I'm just going through. Stop. No, no, no.

[Eddie]

I just posted that two days ago.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I hear you. Next up, View Insights. Eddie on the car line.

[Eddie]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Bobby Bones]

$30.

[Eddie]

Hey, but I guarantee you the John Daly and the salad one will get up to 30. You just need to give it a few kids shoes.

[Bobby Bones]

$25.

[Mark Schlereth]

Hey.

[Eddie]

25 buckaroos.

[Bobby Bones]

Luke Bryan, $11.

[Eddie]

Yeah, I thought Luke would give me more.

[Bobby Bones]

The creative juices. $16. He's not making 30 bucks a post, guys. Yeah, no, I don't even care. I think you trying to make money is great.

[Eddie]

No, look at the other. The other lawnmower.

[Bobby Bones]

Lawnmower. $22.

[Eddie]

A lawnmower, 22 bucks. That's gambling money, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

A golf picture. $20 of Eddie and I. Come on, first day of school. This is from August. I don't like $16. $16.

[Eddie]

It's a weird feeling.

[Bobby Bones]

My point is, get my phone back. You're amplifying your money.

[Eddie]

No, dude, I'm telling you.

[Bobby Bones]

But I think it's great. Make your money. Make all the money you can make. But don't make fun of Kevin whenever he's trying something new.

[Kevin]

Kevin.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm never. You're going to do it right after him. Makes you a hypocrite, Kevin. Are you?

[Kevin]

Mine's consistent content.

[Eddie]

Whoa. I'm getting there, dude. Okay, that was my first salad.

[Bobby Bones]

You want. You want a bit of social media advice?

[Eddie]

Yeah, come on.

[Bobby Bones]

Pick a lane and stay in it.

[Eddie]

Yeah, I think I did.

[Bobby Bones]

With a salad. Then all your stuff should be salads. No, no, no, no.

[Eddie]

Now you're talking.

[Bobby Bones]

It's tossing Salad Tuesday with Eddie.

[Kevin]

There you go.

[Eddie]

That's not what you're gonna say.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I was gonna say food. But then if you're doing a lot of stuff that's not food related and it gets fed to people that usually. No pun intended. And then it's fed to people in their feeds and they're like, I'm gonna pass on it. Then they're not gonna feed them as much of the stuff that they like. So that's why I do like. Most of. Most of my stuff on Instagram is music. Most is music. Every once in a while it's something that's like. But never sports. Because if I put something sports up and it goes up on my. Into my main feed, the people that are usually getting the country music stuff for me get some sports. They don't like it. Well, my Instagram's not gonna feed them any more stuff because they're like, oh, they don't like the stuff he's doing.

[Eddie]

Okay, I understand. But you kind of get in a little pickle there. Like, what if you meet Mark Grace and you want to put it on your Instagram?

[Bobby Bones]

Then I put it on my sports Instagram and tag it through my story. Tough.

[Eddie]

So it's no longer just gonna go on your regular.

[Bobby Bones]

You can do whatever you want. Well, that's when I just kind of get a little, like, if you want to make money as like an influencer in a specific area, you gotta be consistent in that area.

[Eddie]

Okay, so just salads.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, I can like just food. No, it doesn't matter what the just is. You don't have to do it. I'm just giving you.

[Eddie]

Well, I don't have that many John Daly stories, so it can't be that.

[Bobby Bones]

Just John Daly can't be that.

[Kevin]

What would John Daly do?

[Eddie]

It's tough though, dude. How do you think of, like, every day posting something like, I've just been.

[Bobby Bones]

Doing a lot of fun lists and I see that they crush with a bunch of pictures. Luckily, I have Brandon to help me.

[Eddie]

You know what I like mostly about your stuff is the pictures that you dig up and post to do the list.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, thanks.

[Eddie]

I mean, that's kind of funny because some of them are old.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm like, mostly pictures. I haven't. Yeah, I gotta find, like, pictures. Brandon, find a good one of me yesterday. Brandon, where'd you find this picture of me? At a bar or something.

[Brandon]

You were shooting something.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, got it. Yeah. I thought you might have used AI or something.

[Eddie]

I was like, bobby's never gonna leaning in a bar.

[Brandon]

I used AI.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what I. That. That would be my suggestion to both of you new influencers.

[Eddie]

Kevin's got his lane. He's just.

[Kevin]

Yeah, Tick Tock is strictly just the baby stuff. And my last video got 2100 views. The one before that was 800.

[Bobby Bones]

Tick tock to me is just music only and Instagram. I will put some family stuff in there.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But never sports. Because once I put something up that does not get as good of engagement or likes, then they start. They feed it less. So, yeah, good luck.

[Eddie]

Thank you, man. Thanks for that. Thanks for the advice.

[Kevin]

It's a lot of work.

[Bobby Bones]

It is a lot.

[Eddie]

I mean, it's not really a lot of work. It's just a lot of thinking. Yeah, that's work thinking.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Like, you know, When I do, I set aside time every day to do these lists. So. So I'll work out every day, four days a week, and then I go and I get in the sauna for like 20, 25 minutes. And every day in the sauna, that's where you think that's where I do. I have set aside. I'm gonn like, you want to hear the list I have going up today? Yes. I already have it done. I haven't posted. By the time this is up, I'll probably have posted it. But I have my favorite Toms of all time.

[Eddie]

That's fun.

[Bobby Bones]

Top ten Toms Brady. Okay, well, hold on. Well, let me. Let me get.

[Eddie]

Oh, I thought we were playing a game.

[Bobby Bones]

We are. I gotta get. Hey, hold on. Let me get it up here. Let me get it up here.

[Eddie]

Picture Bobby in the sauna. Let's see, let's see.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, no, I already have them all made with the pictures. Okay, so it's all made. I'm just going to push submit. Okay. Top 10 toms of all time. Kevin.

[Kevin]

Tom Green.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, I didn't put Tom Green. Oh, I thought for sure that I forget some. Sometimes there are some music ones where a listener will be like, this one. And I'm like, oh, I missed it. Yeah. I'll also say this two things. One, whenever you post your salads.

[Eddie]

Yeah, salads. Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Always ask the question, like, what did I miss? Or what can I do better? People love giving advice, and what that does is it creates engagement.

[Kevin]

Comments are always a good thing, right?

[Bobby Bones]

The comments are good because then it feeds it out to more people. Yeah.

[Eddie]

Like, okay, so do you do that when you post it?

[Bobby Bones]

You can do it or do you.

[Eddie]

Do it in a comment?

[Bobby Bones]

Both. I do it sometimes on the picture, sometimes under. Okay, Tom Green. I probably, I probably missed that, but I did. Top 10 toms. Go ahead. Tom Green. Not on the list. Eddie Brady. Okay. Tom Brady comes in at number three.

[Eddie]

Pretty good.

[Bobby Bones]

Go ahead. You're still up.

[Eddie]

Tom Hanks.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep. Tom Hanks comes in at number five.

[Mike]

Tom.

[Eddie]

Tom DeLong.

[Casey]

That's what I was thinking.

[Bobby Bones]

Tom DeLong from Blink 182.

[Eddie]

Come on. He's on the list.

[Bobby Bones]

Comes in at number eight. And I'll say this part of his appeal to me is the UFO investigating.

[Eddie]

Oh, of course.

[Bobby Bones]

Tom DeLong. Blink 182. Front man turned UFO investigator.

[Eddie]

Thomas Edison.

[Bobby Bones]

Thomas Ederson.

[Eddie]

Thomas Edison.

[Bobby Bones]

The light bulb guy. Did you know he did not invent the light bulb? Actually, yeah, he just made it better. Okay. Thomas Edison.

[Kevin]

We're learning so much today.

[Bobby Bones]

Thomas Edison at number four.

[Mark Schlereth]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Held 1093 patents in his lifetime. Still one of the highest totals ever. Dang, you're killing the Tom list.

[Eddie]

Did I say Hanks?

[Bobby Bones]

You did.

[Kevin]

You did.

[Mark Schlereth]

Lord, no.

[Bobby Bones]

My manager, Tom Lord.

[Kevin]

That's a good one.

[Bobby Bones]

Shout out, Brandon.

[Brandon]

Tom Landry.

[Eddie]

No chance.

[Bobby Bones]

I eliminated him because I got it down to, like, 15. He made. He would have been honorable mention, but didn't make top 10.

[Mark Schlereth]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I did have it. And I wrote about his fedora, but I didn't put him on the top 10. Makes sense, Casey.

[Casey]

I'm gonna go Tom Cruise.

[Eddie]

Oh, that's a good one, Casey.

[Bobby Bones]

Tom Cruise at number 10 just made it. I wrote weird dude, but some of the greatest action movies ever.

[Eddie]

Yeah, that's it. So weird.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Eddie]

You're still up.

[Kevin]

No, you keep going. Yeah.

[Casey]

How many times do I know, man?

[Eddie]

He says it's like his neighbor.

[Bobby Bones]

There are still 1, 2, 5 left. Tom Hardy, actor got cut off. Ronable mention. That's a good one. Like jiu jitsu expert, too. Like, fighter. Like, really does. Yeah. Kevin.

[Kevin]

I'm go. Tom Petty.

[Mike]

Oh, that's so good.

[Bobby Bones]

Number one.

[Mike]

Let's go.

[Bobby Bones]

Possibly the greatest American rock star. Yeah, of course. Tom Petty. Number one. Tom. Of all time. I still have number two here.

[Kevin]

I'm out, guys.

[Eddie]

I'm starting to lose.

[Kevin]

Brady, Tom Crew. Tom.

[Bobby Bones]

This is the last round. We'll go around here.

[Eddie]

Oh, got one.

[Brandon]

I think I got one, too.

[Bobby Bones]

That's time.

[Mark Schlereth]

Oh, yeah.

[Eddie]

All right, Eddie, give me Tom Selleck from Magnum PI Baby.

[Bobby Bones]

Tom Selleck. Mustache, Hawaiian shirts. Magnum PI Number seven. I used to watch Magnum PI Only because it came on before wcw wrestling on tbs.

[Eddie]

Dude, that's a great show.

[Bobby Bones]

So I would watch Tom. I would watch Magno PI into wrestling. Higgins.

[Eddie]

Higgins and his buddy who flew the helicopter. Tom. Dang. I don't know about another. Another Tom, man. Oh. Oh, Tom the cat. No, from Tom and Jerry.

[Bobby Bones]

There's three left. Tom. Cat did not make it. Brandon.

[Brandon]

Tommy DeVito, their quarterback.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Get out of here.

[Bobby Bones]

A little piece of home, Casey.

[Casey]

Tommy Lee Jones.

[Bobby Bones]

No, that's good.

[Mark Schlereth]

Crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

No. So, okay, at number two, I'll tell you the description that I wrote.

[Eddie]

Come on.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Nicest guy ever. Longtime host of two television shows. One of the shows was America's Funniest Videos.

[Mark Schlereth]

Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

One of the shows was Dancing with the Stars.

[Brandon]

Tom Berger.

[Bobby Bones]

Tom Bergeron at number two.

[Mark Schlereth]

Dude.

[Eddie]

He was a nice guy.

[Bobby Bones]

He's the greatest. He was nice to me. He was so Nice. On Dancing with Stars, I put him at number two. Is he.

[Eddie]

What's he doing now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. Anton Bergeron.

[Brandon]

You said what? He was a nice guy.

[Eddie]

Well, because I met him at Dancing with the Stars.

[Brandon]

I mean, you made it seem like he was not with us.

[Eddie]

No, he's still with us.

[Brandon]

Okay.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I think. How about this one? Country artist.

[Eddie]

Oh, got it. Thomas Rhett.

[Bobby Bones]

Correct. Number nine. Thomas Rhett. Tr. And then we have number six. And I think, Kevin, you'd be the only one that wouldn't get this one.

[Kevin]

Oh, okay. I'm out.

[Bobby Bones]

But I think the other three would get it. I think because Casey's a musician, Brandon's a musician, and Eddie likes music.

[Eddie]

That's rude, but, yes, accurate.

[Bobby Bones]

Guitar wizard.

[Eddie]

Eddie.

[Bobby Bones]

Eddie.

[Eddie]

Tom Morello.

[Bobby Bones]

Correct. There you go. Rage against the Machine and Audio Slave.

[Eddie]

You know who that is? Kevin?

[Kevin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Only because. No, I swear. Only.

[Kevin]

Only because recently I saw a clip of him playing on trl. He was like doing something with Carson Daly and it was sick. But that's the only reason that, like last week.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, Wink.

[Eddie]

Trl.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, Mark Schlerith. We're gonna take a break, come back and talk to Mark Schlerith from. I know him from ESPN but also from his podcast on YouTube. Now talk with him next.

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[Bobby Bones]

Let's get over now to our talk with three time super bowl champion Mark Schlereth. Mark won a Super bowl with the Redskins in the early 90s, won some Super Bowls with the Broncos in the late 90s, grew up in Alaska, which we will talk about and check out his the Stinkin Truth podcast on YouTube. We get into that as well. I'm a big Mark Schleroth fan. I watch his stuff and I don't know. Super cool. So here he is. This is Mark Schlerith. Hey Mark, thanks for the time, man. Good to talk to you.

[Mark Schlereth]

My pleasure, man. My pleasure. Good to talk to you as well.

[Bobby Bones]

The only state I haven't been to is Alaska. Let's just do all the touring I've done. I've been everywhere. I've not been to Alaska. Mostly I get real dehydrated on planes. So it's like when it comes to vacation, I just haven't made the trip up there. Although it does seem awesome you grew up there. Is it daylight most the time and then nighttime most the time? And if so, like, how weird is that to play football?

[Mark Schlereth]

Yeah, it is that. It is that way. Like the summertime, I mean it's, you know, 20 hours of daylight or whatever it is. And the further north you go, the more daylight you've got. So one of the cool things and I always wanted to like, man, I don't know if doc documentary is the right word or right term for it, but they play this land, this midnight sun tournament and the games, it's baseball and it's Alaska minor league baseball or summer league baseball, I guess one of the great summer leagues back in the day, in the 70s, you know, the Cape Cod league took over. But they start a game, first pitch with no lights at 11pm and it's just a really like, it's a really cool. Up in Fairbanks they do that. So. Yeah. And then the winter time is just, you know, it's just dark. You wake up, you go to school, you walk to the bus stop. It's pitch blackout. You get home. And we used to run from the bus, you know, you, they drop you off at the, at the corner, you know, and we'd run to the, the house, you know, to play like football because you had like 22 minutes of daylight left before it got black again, so. But when you grow up that way, it just is the way it is, so you don't know any different. And then, you know, people always ask me, would you go back to Alaska? And I'm like, hell no. I love it. And I go visit. We were just up there last week visiting my father for his 86th birthday. But would I want to live there anymore? No, I like, I, I like the four seasons. I like all the difference.

[Bobby Bones]

What was the football culture like in high school in Alaska?

[Mark Schlereth]

Yeah, you know what I mean, Bobby? We played like seven games, you know, and, and by the end of October, the snow's about to fall and it's really cold out and, and there's not a lot of competition. You know, it's really interesting. I had two scholarship offers coming out of Hawaii. Both the schools came up for a summer camp and I was, you know, I was obviously a gifted athlete, right? So I could run and jump and do all those things. And I was, I was big. But, you know, most of the time people recruited me as a linebacker, a tight end type of thing. Even in the professional leagues, I got worked out as a tight end a bunch. So it was just one of those situations where I had two scholarship offers. One was to Idaho and one was to Hawaii. And you know, for me it was like, man, I'm, I'm going to go to Idaho because at least it snows there. And like, I can't wake up to 300 days of sunshine or 350 days of sunshine, you know, it just like, that would drive me crazy. And so, yeah, for me, that was kind of a big, the culture of just growing up in Alaska. I wanted to, I, I definitely wanted to kind of recreate that. The other thing for me was I didn't know if I was any good. Like, I knew I was good in Alaska, but I knew that there are not many 6 foot 3, 220 pound guys that can run like, you know, run like I could. Right. So from a competition standpoint, I just didn't know if I was good enough to go out to a big school or walk on to, you know, at the time was a PAC 10 school and play. So, you know, I made the choice to go somewhere where I thought I could play right away. And, and it, it worked out great.

[Bobby Bones]

When you got to Idaho to play ball, how long until you realized you actually could play ball?

[Mark Schlereth]

Pretty much right off the bat. Even though I red shirted, you know, just, I, I knew That I could play. I knew athletically that I was. That I was gifted, right? And so I. I knew that that part was. Was okay. And then it just became, you know, I switched from the offensive side of the ball. I got recruited to play center. Then I switched to defense just because I could run and I could jump and I could do all those things. So I ended up playing three years of defense. Then I was just so injured all the time that, as a matter of fact, I switched back to offense my junior year about midway through. Played a couple of games. I ended up dislocating my elbow and having I have surgery on my elbow. And the university actually retired me from football. So I was done. And basically, you know, at 21 years old, or whatever I was, you heal. And I started badgering them to let me play my senior year, came back my senior year, played a position I'd never played. I played guard and end up playing really well for, you know, for the entirety of the season. And then I got drafted. The way I got drafted was I showed up this great story. Marvin Washington was a teammate of mine who was a college basketball player, came to the University of Idaho, had 14 sacks in one season and was a highly touted defensive end. And he called me up. I had no agent. I had been retired from football. I played one year on the offensive side of the football, and one night, Marvin called me up and said, hey, man, the Bengals are coming to work me out tomorrow. Why don't you show up and crash my workout? And so I crashed his workout and absolutely whipped his ass and everything. 40 times, vertical jump, you know, the bench press test, the whole thing. And it put me on the radar. And, you know, normally you would think that that would probably be the last invite I got to Marvin's workouts. He probably invited me eight more times to his workouts, and I kept showing up and I kept whipping his ass, and he kept inviting me. And then eventually, teams just came to work me out. And so I don't play it down in the NFL if it's not for my teammate, Marvin Washington. But the cool thing, Bobby, for me, was I'm playing for Denver, and we win a World Championship in 1997. 98, Super Bowl, 97 season, we beat the Green Bay Packers 31, 24, win the championship, and I'm in the training room where I spent most of my career after the game, and this is a month or so afterwards free agency, and Mike Shanahan comes down to me and goes, hey, listen, man, we're looking for A rotational defensive lineman, like a guy that can play inside, outside, just a guy that fits a guy. It doesn't have to be the best guy, but it just has to fit our culture. A guy that's going to work, guy that's going to be part of our team. Here's a list. About eight guys I have. Just tell me who I should sign. I go, all right, give it to me. I look at it, first name I see, Marvin Washington. I said, sign him. And so Mike goes, okay, done. Walked upstairs, signed Marvin Washington. And so we win the Super Bowl 33 together as teammates. So I don't play it down in the NFL if it's not for my teammate Marvin Washington. And Marvin Washington doesn't win a world championship if it's not for me. So it's just one of those things, you know, you're so connected as teammates and players. So one of the reasons I feel bad for the. The NCAA right now with the nil, where guys just become mercenaries, you don't have or develop or have a chance to develop those kind of relationships that last a lifetime.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, you bring up playing for the Broncos, and I got a couple things I want to talk about here. But you were on one of those silent offensive lines. You guys don't talk to the media, right?

[Mark Schlereth]

Correct.

[Bobby Bones]

And so is the just the juxtaposition of what you did there, not talking, and then now you talk at a high level a lot. Do you think you would have been a pretty outspoken lineman, but the rules were you just couldn't talk?

[Mark Schlereth]

Probably not. I didn't really speak a whole lot back then. Like, I saved it all up so I could spit it all out now. But, you know, the, the interesting thing about playing that position, it's like this secret mushroom society. Nobody knows what we're doing except us. And so, like, when you don't talk, it made it one of those situations where everybody wanted to talk to you. As soon as that ban was lifted, you know, you went to a Super bowl and you had to talk, otherwise the league find you. Nobody really was that interested in talking to us anyhow. It was like one five minute interview and they go, okay, now we're done. Because nobody really understands what's going on up front. Nobody really understands that position. So. And you know, I always tell people because they go, and you're kind of a hypocrite because you didn't speak and now you speak for a living. I was like, I spoke to those guys all the time. Adam Schefter used to Cover us as a beat reporter. You know, now he's just the. The. I mean, he's the grand poo ball of all things information. Right. But Adam and I talked every day. He was a good buddy of mine, and a lot of guys in the media were good buddies of mine. It was just always off the record, like, you can't quote me, but. And so we had that relationship with a lot of guys. It was just, you know, just an interesting time. And we did it more out of fun and to bind us together. And. And, you know, it was always funny because guys would try. Like, I remember Tommy Nayland played center for us, and we went to New England, and he snuck out of the locker room after a game. We beat the New England Patriots. And he was from Foxborough, Massachusetts, where the New England Patriots, you know, play. And so he snuck out and talked to one of his local reporters, and somebody sent the article. I mean, we had. Back then, it was a paper. Newspaper article. It wasn't on the Internet. So they clipped it and sent it to us and sent it to somebody within the mail, I think was our offensive line coach. And then he brought it in as evidence so that we could find Tommy Nail and a bunch of money for speaking to the local media. So, you know, it was a game for us, and it was just one of those things to keep yourself entertained.

[Bobby Bones]

10Th round pick. Now we don't have 10 rounds. Now we have seven. So I don't know. In the 10th round, what day is that? What happened was that three, four days? They do it all in one day back then?

[Mark Schlereth]

Yeah, yeah, it was like three days. And, you know, and I knew it was interesting because there's a great offensive line coach in the league named Jim McNally, and he came out with Cincinnati Bengals to work me out a couple times, and that guy was calling me from the first round on. So he called me every. Like, every single round. Like, I'm standing on the table for you in the second round, like, you are going to be a great player in this league. And, you know, and he gave me a lot of confidence in me. He called me every. Like, literally every single round. And then finally the ninth round came around. He goes, I think I'm going to get you. I think I'm going to get you. And they didn't. They took somebody else, another offensive lineman that played tackle. And then he calls me, and he is just livid. He's so pissed off. And he calls me right before the 10th round. He goes, hey, man, I. I've got You, I'm going to get you in this round. So my phone rings and it's, I, I just thought, you know, it was the Bengals. And so I pick up and it's the, it's the Washington Redskins. And, and they took me 263. And I, I know, I think Cincinnati had a pick a couple of picks later or whatever where they were going to take me, but ended up going to the Redskins, which just was such a blessing because, you know, it's interesting how you get coached the guys who coach you. I just, I just this weekend I was at a celebration of life ceremony for my college coach. Dan Cazzetto, who passed away a couple of weeks ago, was one of the great people, but a great, not a good coach. A great coach. And then I went to Washington, where I was coached by Joe Bugle, who to me is a Hall of Fame NFL coach. And then Jim Hannifin, also kind of a Hall of Fame offensive line, you know, assistant coach. And then I went to Alex Gibbs, the godfather of the zone running game, who is a Hall of Famer at that level as well, and played with guys, played in Washington with the Hogs. So I walked into a situation as a 10th rounder where I was just, I was invested in. Right. I was like, these guys just poured into me from a coaching staff standpoint and a player standpoint where I just learned the game at a higher level because I was around guys who were great, great coaches. And I tell you what, it makes such a difference in your career. You look back on it, go, wow, how blessed and how thankful I am to go there. And, and, you know, the places I got to play with the people that I got to play who were real people. You know, I always say, just because you're a professional athlete doesn't make you a professional. Right. Like, I, I, I played for and, and played with a bunch of professional football players and professional coaches, and it made a huge difference in my life.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it hard not to talk about the toxic players that, you know are toxic because you. It's like in music. Like, I have friends that do music and I have friends that are athletes. And like, I know stuff. I, it's hard to talk about being fully transparent because I know they kind of suck. Like, there's some really famous people that kind of suck. And so, yeah, it's tough to not just go, yeah, this person sucks whenever, you know there's something toxic happening in the locker room to not go, like, this person. Kind of a terrible professional.

[Mark Schlereth]

Yeah, that, and that's hard because you can't win with those guys. And, you know, I mean it. Like, it's. To me, it's about, especially in a team sport, it's about what are you willing to do for everybody else? How are you willing to be sacrificial in your approach to the game? How are you willing to put others ahead of yourself? Because that to me is, you know, that to me is what leadership. That to me is what culture looks like. And culture is one of those things that everybody talks about. But if it's not lived every single day, preached every single day and worked on every single day, then it just falls apart. And the intro, the interesting thing about an NFL locker room, you know, it's 53 guys on your active roster. And one of the really interesting things, and I don't know why this is, but you can have the majority of your guys as real professionals, right? Attention to detail, work study, prepare, all those things. And their gravitational pull is not nearly that of having a couple turds on your team. You have a couple of turds on your team and their gravitational pull, their orbit is so much stronger than all the professionals. And I don't understand why that is. It just is. And so you have got to do such a great job as an organization of understanding that. And I think one of the things that happens to a lot of coaches in a lot of organizations, they all feel like, you know, they're all ego driven to the point of saying, yeah, but under my expert tutelage, this guy's not going to be a turd. This guy's going to be a good dude. He's going to work hard, you know, because his athletic gifts are so supreme. And the bottom line, Bobby, is I don't care how great an athlete you are, if you're a garbage human, you are a detriment to the success of that team. And so you've just got to understand and you got to be able to pull the trigger on those guys and get rid of them. And it's really hard to do when you see a dude that just is so gifted. And there are a lot of those guys that are so incredibly gifted, but if they're just not good guys, they're just not professionals, man. They will. They will destroy your team.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't you find it hard because I. I watch your watch on TikTok. I like, I follow a lot of what you do. Don't you find it hard, though, to be somebody who has the voice that you have and is known for a lot of Your authentic feelings and emotions on things to not actually just say who the turds are whenever a team isn't performing and be like, yeah, you know what? This person kind of sucks, and it's probably holding them back.

[Mark Schlereth]

Yeah, that's. That's hard. But one of the things I always try to do, you know, whether it's broadcasting, whether it's doing, you know, my podcast or whether it's doing a game or whatever, I love football, man. It. It, you know, to. To quote, I love the alarm in the 80s. You know that the Welsh band, and they have a line in one of their songs. It's the lifeblood that courses through my veins. And it resonates with me because football's been the lifeblood that courses through my veins, man. I love football, so I love to celebrate football. I love to celebrate. As opposed to going, well, that guy's a turd, and that guy got beat. I love to celebrate the guy who beat him, right? I love to celebrate the excitement and all those things. So, yeah, it's hard sometimes because, you know, you have inside information on a guy that you just know why, you know, especially when the fans are on you and, like, oh, man, you're. You know, you're not giving this guy the credit or you're bitter or whatever it is, and, you know, the inside scoop of why that guy moves or bounces around or why, you know, teams have just grown sick of his crap. So. But I. I tend to just try to leave that stuff behind sometimes I get caught up a little bit, like, we all do. We're all human. But for the most part, I just try to celebrate the things I love about football.

[Bobby Bones]

You're in good shape compared to, like, alignment in game shape. And I was. I was watching Any Given Saturday, which is the Netflix show about the sec. I'm big sec guy, and the linemen are talking about they just got to eat all the time, and it's just unhealthy stuff. They just got to put on mass. And any of the people that I know that were linemen are skinnier now. However, any of my friends that played quarterback or played skill position, they put on 30 to 40 pounds almost immediately. Did you find when you left the league, you lost weight?

[Mark Schlereth]

Yeah, I did. I. I lost. And it was intentional, you know, I mean, I was just like, I fought my whole career to be heavy enough. That was a. It was a lifelong just, you know, gorging myself on a consistent basis to remain heavy enough. I used to have a limit. My limit, my limit Was actually I couldn't weigh less than, you know, a certain amount. So my deal where most guys have a limit on the top, my limit was on the bottom because I had a tendency to get underneath my limit. And so, you know, you'd weigh in every Thursday, and if you weren't. If I wasn't above 285, man, it was a hundred dollars a pound. And, you know, and I. It was just one of those things that. That's the way we used to do it. And, you know, so I. My weight was somewhere between. I usually weighed about 288 to 294 somewhere in there. And I had a fight constantly to keep that on. So as soon as. As soon as I got done playing, man, I dropped to 230 like it was nothing. It was easy. Now it's not as easy anymore. I stepped on the scale the other day at 270 and I was like, oh, shoot, none of my suits are gonna fit. So I'm on this. I'm on this. I went from 270, 270 point. I think it was 270.6 pounds or 7 pounds on Monday to 259.3 pounds on Saturday. And. And I am on a. I am on a mission to get to about 240 right now, which I do every year. It's like I get lazy and just start eating and whatever, and then the next thing I know, I mean, I could. I could be, you know, 290 in a heartbeat. So it's one of those things you got to work on. But you're right, most of the offensive linemen, most of them enjoy, like, getting away from that lifestyle, exercising and losing the weight.

[Bobby Bones]

I want to ask you one more personal question then. I want to ask just a few NFL questions, but personally, what. Does anything still hurt on you?

[Mark Schlereth]

Oh, everything. Yeah. I mean, I had. I had 29 surgeries while I was playing. I had 20 knee surgeries, I had back surgeries, I had seven elbow surgeries. I had a kidney surgery where I literally got wheeled into surgery Sunday night at 11pm Checked myself out of the hospital, sun Monday morning at 11, drove to the stadium and played the Raiders in a Monday night game. And we beat him 27. Nothing. The things you do to yourself. There's no sane person on earth that would do those things. Right? And there's no sane doctor on earth that would allow you to do those things. But it's the NFL, and there's just a different standard when it comes to playing. And you have to be willing. You know, people talk about, oh, you can't play. You know, you can't play injured or. Or you got to play hurt. You got to play injured. You want to keep your job. You got to be willing to do things that other guys just aren't willing to do. And if you don't play injured, and more importantly than playing injured, you got to play well injured. And so, like, I had a. A. An ability during the course of my career to be, like, not, like, almost not being able to walk on a Saturday and going out and whipping somebody's ass on Sunday. And. And that was. That was a challenge. And it was one of those challenges that I accepted and, you know, and. And reveled in. Like, that was. I was proud of my ability to play well injured and just go out there and do what I had to do and sacrifice. Make that sacrifice for my teammates. So.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Mark Schlereth]

Do my knees hurt? Sure. Does my back hurt? Absolutely. Do my elbows hurt? Yeah. To. My shoulders hurt.

[Bobby Bones]

Huh.

[Mark Schlereth]

But one of the things that you have to understand is that I've known nothing but pain from the time I was 18 years old. So you put my body on somebody else that's my age, and they're checking themselves in the hospital. To me, it's just the way it. It's just the way my body is. Like, it's. I've grown accustomed to it. I'm used to having pain, and it doesn't affect me, I think, like most people do, because it's all I've known. Like, it's all I've known since I was 18. Like, sleeping through the night. I don't know what that feels like. I haven't done that. I can't do that. I wake up all the time because something hurts, and it's just the way it is. And so I don't whine about it or complain about it. I don't worry about it. You know, people are all like, oh, what about the concussion issues? I don't give a crap. Like, I'm doing fine if. If that. If that happens. You know, if. If, you know, CTE or whatever. I. I do happen to believe that your body's got unbelievable ability to recuperate. Right. I believe that you have enough plasticity and enough connectivity in your brain that if you're constantly using it and you're working and you're doing those things. I mean, I. I think you'll overcome some of the issues that you've done to yourself, just like you have with health. And I watch a bunch of guys that I know play myself. You know, I don't use drugs, I don't use alcohol. I don't use that stuff. So I think it, you know, I exercise, I do all those things. I eat right, so I, I think all those things, all those things kind of manifest to good health, even brain health and all those things. So like, I, I just don't sit around and going, oh, woe is me. I'm not a victim. I don't worry about it. I would do it all over again. And, and I don't make excuses for the NFL. I don't like. You know, people always talk about safety in this. We signed up for it. Most of us, almost all of us would do it again. And some of the best men I know, some of the greatest fathers, some of the greatest leaders, some of the greatest, you know, spiritual advisors that I know played the NFL. And so I don't, I, I, I just get to the point where I, like a lot of times people just want to go, oh, football concussions equals, you know, freak out and ruin your life or, you know, or, or do something dramatic to your family. I don't buy into that. I, they don't study the effects of depression. You know, what is your identity? When you have an identity as a football player and it gets taken away from you, like anything in life, like, that's hard to deal with. And so if you put your identity in what you do for a living, when it gets taken away from you, and it will, you will get pink, slipped, outsourced. You will get, you know, a cut, supplanted, whatever the case may be. If your identity is in that, then you're gonna suffer some depression. How does depression affect your brain? And all those different. So I'm just not a victim. I like. Amen. It happens. It works. You know, I had a TV show on Fox that just got, that just got dumped. You know, I just got fired. So what, I'm in New York packing up my apartment. That's life, man. It happens. And so we move on. We try to figure out what's next.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, let me ask you one football question I have. I keep this Bronco helmet on my desk here. I got a bow neck signed Bronco helmet. Pretty slick. Yeah, pretty, pretty shiny. You think they can win the AFC West?

[Mark Schlereth]

Oh, yeah. Hey, man, they're a, they're an outstanding football team. So I was at their scrimmages on Thursday with the Arizona Cardinals. So I reached out to a couple of guys I know, a bunch of guys on the staff of the Arizona Cardinals, offensive coordinator Drew Pensing, I asked him about him, goes, man, this defense is unbelievable. You're not running the ball on the Denver Broncos. They can shut down the run, make you one dimensional. So that's a really good place to be in their defensive backfield. You know, with Pat Certain, with Riley Moss, with Baron, the kid they just drafted in the first round with McMillan, I mean, they're. They're legit. So they. They've got a really good chance to be great on the defensive side. And then I'm talking to Jonathan Gannon, who's their head coach, former defensive coordinator, league, and I was like, hey, man, just offensively, Bo Nix. Like, Bo Nix, you know, because last year there was a lot of narrative out there that the defense led them. They never beat, you know, good. I think they beat one team with a winning record. So it was more like, hey, Bo Nicks was getting drug along by the defense. So I said to Jonathan Gannon, what do you think, Bo Nicks? Just Bo Nix, forget about the defense. He said, bo Nix will lead this team to the playoffs. Like, that's how good Bo Nicks is in year number two. So they're deep, they're excited. Talked to Sean Payton a bunch about them. And. And I tell you what, man, they've got the right culture. They've gotten rid of a bunch of guys that just didn't fit what they were trying to build, that were good football players, just not the right guys. And I think they've got a really great feeling about who they have involved in their football team right now.

[Bobby Bones]

We were talking about before you came on the Stinking Truth, which is your show, and now that football season is back, thank God, do you find it's just easier to do a show now than trying to figure out what to talk about?

[Mark Schlereth]

Yeah, you know, there's so many. I mean, the NFL is the gift that keeps on giving it. You know, there's always. They've done a great job of making it relevant. 365, you know, and so there's always things to talk about. But now when you get into, you know, trying to create on YouTube, your podcast, you know, and I've just done it as kind of fun, but now I look at it like, hey, man, this could be the next thing that, you know, you actually make a living doing. And so, you know, some of the breakdown stuff and getting in depth and creating benchmark segments and. And some of those things, educating people have this desire, I find, to actually know about Football, like the general public, it's really interesting. You're broadcasting a game and you know I speak football language. So I'll say things and my producer will get in my ear going, nobody in America knows what that means. And I'm like, what do you, what are you talking about? Like, you know, everybody knows you can't up kick a four eye.

[Eddie]

I don't even know what a four eye is.

[Mark Schlereth]

You know, the, the producer says, like, what do you mean you don't know what a four eye is? You don't speak English? No. You're speaking Japanese. So, you know, to be able to educate a fan base and to still have fun and be entertaining, but still really bring football to life for people, I think that's what, you know, I've looked at this opportunity to say, hey man, I've got to take this from something I just doink around with on the Stinking Truth podcast on YouTube and make it something that's, that's, you know, more, more appealing to a vast majority of people and something that you can, you know, chew on and digest and learn while you're having fun and being entertained. So that's what I'm going to try to do. I don't know that I'll do it well, but you know what? I'll give it a shot.

[Bobby Bones]

You guys check out. We were talking about it earlier, but. The Stinking Truth podcast with Mark. Hey, Mark, I'm a big fan. It's super cool to have you on. I know you got a busy day today and now the football's back. It's extra busy, but thanks for spending some time with us and I'll keep following and I don't know, I, I'm betting on the Broncos. Can I even say that to you? I mean, is that.

[Mark Schlereth]

Yeah, you could.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Mark Schlereth]

Yeah, you could say, hey man, put. What's the. What is the. What's the. The number put. Go on the over. Pound the over, man. Pound the over. That's what I'm telling you. It's a pleasure, Bobby. Anytime you need me to break anything down across the league, you just reach out, don't hesitate.

[Bobby Bones]

Appreciate you, Mark. Have a great day.

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, so we talked about this on the show and Brandon was paid 40 bucks.

[Brandon]

40 bucks?

[Bobby Bones]

Was that what it was? That's it. To write the song for the Cubs. Except he was just paid 40 bucks for every song that he wrote. And they just picked that up and it was, it was played where it.

[Brandon]

Was played the 2007 WGN before every Cubs game that year. And then they started playing it when a Cubs player would hit a home run.

[Bobby Bones]

And how much you get paid for it?

[Brandon]

40 bucks.

[Bobby Bones]

Not every time.

[Mark Schlereth]

No.

[Brandon]

You got paid one time and I didn't ride it. I was just, I was hired as.

[Bobby Bones]

A singer, got it.

[Brandon]

And they're like, yeah, we're pitching this to wgn and you know, who knows if it'll get. Get picked up.

[Bobby Bones]

And so you would sing stuff they would send to you?

[Brandon]

Yeah, yeah. I would go into this, I would go into the studio and sing like, you know, 10 jingles, 400 bucks a day. I mean, it was like once every three months.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh yeah, that sucked. 400 bucks every three months.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

That's tough job. We have a part of the song. Yeah.

[Brandon]

So I went through all of my emails and I could only find it's like the intro of the song. You get a pretty good idea of the corniness of it.

[Bobby Bones]

And they played this for many times in a lot of places. And he made 40 bucks. Mike, you have it?

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Give it.

[Mike]

Let's go. Come. Let's go. Come. This is our year. Well, I'M ready to go I got all my prayers and we're headed down to the yard we're going to pray the rain and ride that train down wow, man.

[Eddie]

I want more. This is our year.

[Bobby Bones]

What?

[Eddie]

Mike, here's a little bit of the end.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Mike]

This is.

[Mark Schlereth]

And it was not.

[Bobby Bones]

It was. It rarely was. It rarely was. I think, because I'm a Cubs fan, I watch, if not a little bit of all the games. Most. A little bit of all the games. And the brewers don't lose. They lost last night. Finally thinking two nights ago, they didn't lose. They won, like, 14 in a row. The Cubs are, like 17 over 500. Maybe 16 or 17 over 500. And they're like one of the wild cards. They're like eight games back.

[Eddie]

Yeah, I know.

[Bobby Bones]

Of the Brewers.

[Eddie]

Crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

It's crazy. The brewers aren't losing. I don't even hate the brewers because they're a small market team.

[Eddie]

Are they the rival?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Brewers of the Cubs. Well, I know St. Louis, but I.

[Bobby Bones]

Mean, they're not the rival because St. Louis is. But also, we just paid their manager a bunch of money to come counsel to come manage the Cubs, and he's doing a great job, but the brewers are killing it right now, so. Brandon, play that song more. You know, Casey, I see. Did you write a song?

[Casey]

I wrote a song, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

For what?

[Casey]

For the jets. For, you know.

[Eddie]

Okay, what's happening here?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, first of all, did you just do it for fun?

[Casey]

Yeah, I did it for fun, but I thought, you know, we could play it.

[Eddie]

Maybe it's the same thing.

[Mike]

It's all you. Let's go, gents.

[Bobby Bones]

So you didn't know the Brandon thing?

[Casey]

I did not, no.

[Mark Schlereth]

Crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Because he wasn't even here, I swear to God. But he sees the clips. But he edits the clips.

[Eddie]

He's always here, Kevin.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so you wrote this song completely unrelated to us talking about Brandon writing another song? 100% for 40 bucks.

[Casey]

Yes. This is just about, you know, the pain and the suffering that I've endured as a Jet fan for the last 14 years, and I wrote a song about it.

[Bobby Bones]

And what's your goal with this song?

[Casey]

Just to hopefully give a little motivation to the team, you know, Justin Fields, this is our year.

[Bobby Bones]

This.

[Eddie]

This is our year.

[Bobby Bones]

When you say that, though, that's the Colts. This is our year. This is our team. He got to go on the field and do that with the whole, like, choir. With the whole. Not Casey. That life stuff.

[Mark Schlereth]

No, no.

[Eddie]

I was like, who?

[Bobby Bones]

The Colt. You guys don't see the Colts guy?

[Eddie]

No. No. I thought you were talking about Casey.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

You guys don't watch. I don't know sports.

[Eddie]

We do. What are you talking about?

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, the. The. He's done it for all last season. The cheerleader showed up at his house. This is our year. This is our team. The cult singer. The kid. The guy at home who is terrible singer. No, Guy's gone viral. Multiple. Oh, no. Okay, so let me play Casey's. Okay. And then I'll come back to that. I gotta get my tick tock up. How long is it, Mike? It's a minute and a half. Yeah, we're not gonna play a minute and a half of it. I can pause it throughout or whenever you want me to, but. Okay, I haven't heard this.

[Casey]

Let's get through the second verse at least.

[Bobby Bones]

We'll see. All right, go ahead.

[Mike]

For the longest time, the jets have not made the playoffs in some time. 14 years. It's such a crime. Will this year be the same? Can we reach the playoffs and shine? We haven't been there for the longest time. I've seen a lot of in my fandom. A butt fumble coked out coach and a penis scandal Legs frying like feet living Bell really liked his weed and Aaron Rodgers blew out his Is a Man.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it sounds like a real song from like the 60s.

[Kevin]

Beach Boys.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

All right.

[Eddie]

Casey can sing.

[Mark Schlereth]

Yeah, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Did you not know that?

[Eddie]

I mean, not like. I mean, I didn't know he could sing that well. He's really good.

[Bobby Bones]

This guy cannot. I'm going to play you from the Cult. Good man. But this guy. This has gone so viral so many times. It does it every week. Okay, hold on. That's.

[Kevin]

Oh, my goodness.

[Mike]

This is our cult this is our team we bleed blue this is our cult Whether win or lose.

[Bobby Bones]

So it's like his own little microphone in his house. And look, it ain't good, but it's gone viral so many times. And then the cheerleader showed up at his house to do it with him. And then he did this on the field last week. They've embraced him, which is awesome. That is cool.

[Kevin]

Good for him.

[Eddie]

So is that what Casey's looking for?

[Bobby Bones]

What if Casey doesn't know? That's what people think of that. We're like, casey, good job. Keep going.

[Mark Schlereth]

Keep doing it.

[Kevin]

If they invited you out, would you sing it?

[Eddie]

Absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think they'll be inviting you out.

[Casey]

The coked out coach bar. Probably not. You know, fair enough.

[Bobby Bones]

Mike, I think we're good, huh? Yeah, we're good. All right. Thanks to Mark Slearath. Thanks to Brandon. I feel like give him another 40 bucks just for the sake.

[Mark Schlereth]

I know.

[Eddie]

Poor Brandon. Me too, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Hey, that's $40 more than Casey made for his song. That's true.

[Eddie]

Hey, all I have to do is post one picture. Dude, I got you.

[Bobby Bones]

That's a lie we learned earlier. That's a lie.

[Casey]

Pecan strawberry salad.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, we're done.

[Eddie]

Almonds.

[Bobby Bones]

Thank you, guys. Have a good rest of the day. We'll see you guys later on this week. All right, bye, everybody.

[Eddie]

Here, I got you.

[Bobby Bones]

I'll blow it. Thank you. Firewood Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host, produce ready, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin and executive producer at Mike Diestro. But most importantly, thank you for listening, Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 whistles.

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