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Eddie
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Eddie
This is a podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking Football.
Brandon Marcelo
And they all wear a whistle yet Stupid.
Eddie
But what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles.
Bobby Bones
25 Whistles. Blow it up. We were out in the lobby eating Eddie's salsa. It's real good.
Eddie
You like it?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, it's real good. I don't know what you do with that.
Eddie
What do you mean? Ball it up. Sell that sucker.
Bobby Bones
I know you say stuff like that, but I mean, it sounds good. Nobody a part of my organization, the whole organization, does anything. No offense.
Eddie
What do you mean? I do stuff? Not like, you mean business.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, everybody claims they want to do stuff.
Eddie
I got you.
Bobby Bones
Everybody has big ideas and a side hustle. And I'm not saying you don't work hard, because you do.
Eddie
Thank you.
Bobby Bones
But I'm talking about outside of this job where you talk about stuff like just sell it, but nobody does anything.
Eddie
It sounds cool to be like, but you could do.
Bobby Bones
I mean, it's really good.
Kevin
Really good.
Bobby Bones
It's just a time investment, a money investment, but it's really good. I just don't know what you would.
Eddie
Do where I get hung up on stuff like that. Like, salsa's tough because, like, how do I make that last for two months?
Bobby Bones
But you don't.
Eddie
I Think.
Bobby Bones
I think you could sell it locally and do old 90s rap. Sell CDs out of the back of your trunk.
Eddie
Oh, dang, that's cool.
Bobby Bones
But again, it's a time investment.
Eddie
Go to a neighborhood, go to Broadway, Play music like an ice cream truck. But south side, you don't have to be racist, dude. What do you mean? What do you mean? Play some music, dude. Set your salsa.
Kevin
Hey, white folks like salsa, too.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, man, we call it.
Kevin
Come on.
Eddie
No, I'd go to your neighborhood, too. That would be frowned upon. I couldn't do that.
Bobby Bones
I'm just saying, you could say, hey, I've got a hundred bottles and I don't want to give you the blueprint.
Eddie
Because the ideas, dude, are great.
Bobby Bones
No, but I just wish you would have, like, ideas and do stuff yourself.
Eddie
I thought farmers markets, that'd be kind of fun.
Bobby Bones
But that's. What's it. Once a month.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And then you're competing.
Eddie
Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
With a bunch of other stuff. You've done it longer. And people who, let's be honest, are more Mexican than you.
Eddie
That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Not at farmers markets.
Bobby Bones
You're a little bit of a coconut. No. I say sometimes.
Eddie
No, I am a coconut for sure.
Bobby Bones
You know what that is, Kevin?
Kevin
No.
Bobby Bones
Brown on the outside, white on the inside.
Eddie
Oh, coconut. That's what people would call me, like, in high school.
Kevin
I never heard that one.
Eddie
Like, the real Mexican dudes would be like, man, you're a coconut. And I'm like, what does that mean? Yeah, you're white on the inside, but brown on the outside.
Brandon Marcelo
Oh.
Eddie
I was like, that's kind of clever.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
He's like, you would say that.
Kevin
That's very white of you.
Bobby Bones
Hey, you went to see Switchfoot?
Kevin
Yeah, dude.
Bobby Bones
So my wife and I were listening. We talked about this on the show. We had a whole Switchfoot night a couple weeks ago because they had songs like, you were meant to live for so much more and we lost ourselves. But then they had.
Eddie
That's all I got.
Bobby Bones
No, I got more. Oh, yeah. Because I think Switchfoot and Lifehouse, they start to cross over.
Eddie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
Because Lifehouse says, I'm hanging by moment you, but Switch Foot has.
Kevin
I can't think. Why can't I think of it right now?
Bobby Bones
Because I. Lifehouse, too, and that's.
Kevin
I know it all up. The other huge hit.
Bobby Bones
That's it.
Kevin
Oh, yeah, yeah. Dare you to move Ringtone back in middle school. Right there.
Bobby Bones
Dude. Switch foot. Middle school.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. You're a little younger than Us? Yeah. You didn't even get real Switch Foot. You saw Switch Foot that the older people knew from young. But you're just watching a good band that's older now.
Kevin
You're talking about the other night. Is that what you're talking about?
Bobby Bones
And you didn't watch a band that you liked when you were younger?
Kevin
Yeah, I did.
Bobby Bones
You're too young.
Brandon Marcelo
Did you go to a Switch?
Kevin
I mean, those two songs. I love those songs.
Eddie
Did you go to the. Their show?
Kevin
No, I went to, like, a CMA pre. CMA event that BMGO label was having, and apparently they're on their label. Oh. And they brought them out. Like there was all these country acts, and then all of a sudden they were like, oh, and we got Switch Foot and they said it'd be country. Three. Three songs?
Bobby Bones
No.
Kevin
Oh, no. They. They did cover Beastie Boys, Sabotage. That was awesome. He was up in the crowd. He was going crazy. The lead singer was awesome.
Bobby Bones
Was that Brooklyn Bowl?
Kevin
Yes.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Switch was awesome. I should try to get him on the Bobby cast or the lead singer. I don't want the whole band. Whole bands are hard to interview because then you feel like you have to, like, give attention to, like, the bassist.
Eddie
And then they feel like they need to say something in the interview too.
Bobby Bones
I know.
Kevin
You know his brother's in the band. I didn't know that. The lead singer, Foot. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
He'S Foot.
Kevin
The other Switch.
Bobby Bones
Did you go to the CMAs?
Kevin
No, I didn't. No.
Bobby Bones
Did you watch it?
Kevin
I watched, like, half of it.
Bobby Bones
Thoughts?
Kevin
First hour and a half or so. Pretty good. Pretty. Pretty entertaining. I thought the shows were good. The awards kind of go as you think. I didn't think Ella and Riley were gonna win a couple times with that song. I thought maybe Zach Top might win one.
Eddie
But did Zach Top not win one at all?
Bobby Bones
He did New artist. Okay.
Kevin
He won New artist. I think it was asleep by then.
Bobby Bones
I didn't watch any of it, but I just looked at clips back.
Kevin
Yeah, but he put on a great show.
Bobby Bones
Zach Top.
Kevin
He played like some. The guitar makes your heart go or something like that. It was really, really good.
Bobby Bones
There's a festival in California. We've played it before. It's an Indigo, so.
Kevin
Indio.
Eddie
Indio. Stagecoach.
Eva Longoria
Great.
Eddie
And you hear how you said it too. Like California and corrected you in India, dude. It's where Coachella. Hey, bro.
Bobby Bones
It's an Indian jump. He did jump down my throat. I'm sorry, I.
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Bobby Bones
I'm sorry. I said it wrong.
Kevin
Did you know that? Where Switch Foot is from San Diego. Well, Southern California.
Bobby Bones
I'm saying India is not India.
Kevin
I know. I'm just saying California.
Bobby Bones
So. So we. We. Eddie and I have played that festival before called. It's Stagecoach. And it's kind of hard to get to because it's not LA and you got to drive a while, but. And it's. It's probably the biggest. Would you say it's the biggest country festival? Oh, yeah.
Kevin
It's 100,000 people.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, for sure. Because, Brandon, you played it with us, right? We all went together.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And so I was looking at the lineup this year, and what's cool makes me think about this, because Switchfoot. But, like, I think Counting Crows are playing it this year. They are. I think it's much more of a thing now with these festivals is to grab bands that were awesome whenever we were younger. They didn't have to be country. Like, as long as they play instruments, that's cool. And they play there. I think there are multiple of these bands. Bush. Are they playing? Yeah, in Indigo.
Eddie
Uhhuh.
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Kevin
Yeah, the Indigo Journey.
Bobby Bones
Okay. Yeah. So as.
Eddie
Wow.
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Blind.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Third Eye Blind. That's what I was thinking about.
Eddie
Even whenever they have these 90s cruises, I'm always like, I'm not going to this. But that would be so cool.
Bobby Bones
It would be fun. I feel like a 90s cruise is too much.
Eddie
You think so?
Bobby Bones
It's too old.
Eddie
Like, I follow lit on Instagram and I think they go on a cruise every month and it's like, man, it's lit with. With. Who sings Sex and Candy?
Bobby Bones
Marcy Playground.
Eddie
Marcy Playground.
Bobby Bones
They got one song. They got one song. I think there's just too much 90s on a cruise. I like, the lit guys are great. Like his people. And they played our show. Brandon knows them. But if that's all it is, that's tough. But if they're mixed in and, like, you're watching Riley Greene and then you're watching Counting Crows or Third Eye Blind, that's legit. And then it's like Thomas Rhett. It fits.
Kevin
Yeah, that's what was cool about Switchfoot. Like, it was country acts before that was kind of slow ballad kind of stuff. And they came on and then just rocked. You were like, yeah, I got the whole crowd going. So to your point, That's a great combination. Also Pitbull and ludicrous guys.
Eddie
They were.
Kevin
Oh, they're coach next year.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, dude. They're really playing, like, that late night.
Kevin
That late night. Yeah, they're really mixing it Up Pitbull, Ludicrous theory.
Bobby Bones
Not as many good country artists. So now you got to put in strong.
Eddie
It's good theory strong, so.
Bobby Bones
Or not as many. I should take this back. Not as many massive country artists because it's becoming so fractional because of the ability to get so many artists. TikTok, etc. Not as good as, like, talented.
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Bobby Bones
As. As mono culture country music known.
Eddie
When we played, I remember talking to some of the people that were working there, and they were just kind of exhausted. And, like, the more I talked to him, like, yeah, we just had Coachella. Coachella, right.
Kevin
The weekend before.
Bobby Bones
Two weekends, two weeks before.
Eddie
In New California.
Bobby Bones
The drinks before.
Kevin
Hey, guys, I'm just gonna leave now. I've never been a Coachella, though.
Eddie
You never went?
Kevin
No, I know. It wasn't my scene.
Eddie
Now, like, that's crazy that the same crew that works Coachella works Stagecoach. And it's like, what, four weeks of just festival that second.
Bobby Bones
Three weeks, though. It's. Yeah, it's three weeks, right?
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Three.
Kevin
Yeah. Total between.
Bobby Bones
Of the pop one of the country.
Kevin
Correct.
Bobby Bones
But though the field is so beat down.
Eddie
Oh, yeah.
Bobby Bones
Because by the time we got there, it's all dust. Because the two weeks before anyway.
Kevin
Yeah, you have to wear it.
Bobby Bones
Enough about Indigo.
Eddie
Indigo, man.
Kevin
Classic Indigo Place. Yeah, it's great.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Eddie
Is that by Palm Springs? Because I remember being in that area.
Kevin
Yeah.
Eddie
Okay.
Kevin
It is. Yeah.
Eddie
Not by San Diego.
Bobby Bones
Hey, let's go to our California expert.
Kevin
Palm Springs is approximately. Would you move to California? Yeah.
Eddie
No.
Kevin
No.
Eddie
The answer is no. I've asked him this.
Kevin
No, I wouldn't. Sometimes I'm like, dang. Do I miss it? A little bit. But then, like, every time I go back there, I'm like, yeah, I don't want to be back here, actually.
Bobby Bones
It's. The weather's awesome.
Kevin
Yeah, the weather's great.
Bobby Bones
Of course, I hate the weather here sometimes. But, yeah, I hated LA when I was like, even just living there for a couple months. I don't like the people there exactly. And I didn't have enough of my own community there to not be around the people. That type of person. Because I was always just working where you could fall into that trap in Nashville, too. Like, get here new, and you're just like, around all climbers and all people in it. And I think that happens a lot climbers. But then once you find your group, you can kind of insulate yourself for the most part from that type.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Anyway.
Eddie
But you can't say, you know, I mean, you were those people. Like, you look there.
Kevin
Yeah, I mean, I grew up there for 30 years, so that was you? Yeah. But I always felt like, you know, these are my people, you know.
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Eddie
You met, you. You felt like you were. You needed to be in. In the East Coast.
Kevin
Yeah, the South.
Eddie
The south, yeah.
Kevin
Tennessee. Exactly.
Eddie
Celtics fan. Patriots in the South. Tennessee.
Bobby Bones
He's Johnny Cash song.
Eliakhani
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Bobby Bones
He roots for everybody, man. He roots for everybody. He's got a team down in Florida. Got a team up. Boston. Got a team in. Lesco's. Got a team.
Kevin
Like, dude, I'm here, boys. You're here.
Eddie
Thank you.
Bobby Bones
Eddie got emotional watching a TikTok video.
Eddie
Yeah, dude, it got me good. I normally don't like TikTok videos. Like, whatever, that's funny. But man, this one was. Somebody did a montage of all of these football players, like NFL players, you know, just seeing people that they know after the game. Like, I think it was like, oh, I saw. I don't remember who they started with. It was like a couple. I'm like, oh, it was Josh Allen. And he went to go see kicker. The kicker or whatever. He's like, is that him? Is that him? And he goes and gives him a big hug. I'm like, that's kind of cool. But then they go to Trayvon Diggs and. And Micah Parsons and they're like, bro. And they fuck each other. He's got the packers jersey and Diggs has the Cowboys jersey. And then they just kept on going, did more and more. And people are crying like, how you doing, brother? Good to see you. And like, I got teary eyed. I don't know why, it's so stupid, but I think when you see football players become humans and see their old buddies or what, I don't know, dude. I just like, was like, I need to get off this thing. You know, when they surprise.
Bobby Bones
I think you probably just something else happened in your life and that. That video just hit at a time.
Eddie
Yeah, it was pretty normal day. Like, nothing crazy. But when that came on, Ivan.
Brandon Marcelo
What?
Eddie
Dude, it was weird. And then there was one where like Emmett was on a red carpet and Michael Irvin showed up and he's like, Emma. And they gave each other a big hug. Like, this is so beautiful. Like they're. The camaraderie that these guys build on the football field, you know, and then they see each other, even though they just kind of beat each other up on the. I don't know, it's all just. It was really. It's like, it's like when you see the soldiers, you know, like, it's not.
Bobby Bones
No, no, I understand, but it's not.
Eddie
That's the same feeling.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, no, I get it. But it's not the same.
Kevin
It's that feeling.
Eddie
The surprise.
Bobby Bones
You know, packers last week, played who again? I forgot.
Kevin
Giants.
Bobby Bones
Okay, so someone on the field, they were. As the game was ending. I don't remember it was, but they were trying to take their jersey off to switch Michael Parsons and he couldn't quite get his arm out. Yes.
Kevin
His jersey's so tight.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. And so he was like, hey, we're doing jerseys. And it was on camera. And so he. It was just awkward because he couldn't get his jersey off. It was just getting his arm under and it was. And Michael Parsons just standing there, like, waiting.
Eddie
He's like, it's cool, dude. I don't need your jersey.
Bobby Bones
And Michael Parsons just took. Just took his shoulder pads off his head and then pulled it off. But this guy was trying to get it off as he was wearing pads. Oh, that was kind of funny.
Eddie
Those. I mean, those jerseys are so tight, like now. Like, even my son played football. Like, I had to help him put his jersey on every single game and then take off his pads because they were all just so skin tight. They look cool.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Even when we did our too much access and put on jerseys, they were super tight. Pretty freaking tight. All right, so let's build out the parlay here. Who wants in?
Eddie
You guys seem to be doing good without me.
Bobby Bones
No, we've lost.
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Eddie
Exactly.
Bobby Bones
Do you want back in?
Eddie
You want now? Because I haven't really looked at. Well, you know what? This is the week that I think this is the week that we make money.
Bobby Bones
Okay, I'm going Arkansas. I'm going Arkansas plus eight and a half. Arkansas is going to be Texas. This is going to. And not because I think Arkansas is better than Texas because they probably line up and are better than us at every single position. I'm used to us just giving us a little cobble of corn every year and giving us something to slightly be happy about. We're going to Texas. Texas is not going to care about us. Arkansas plus eight and a half.
Eddie
So you want to go Moneyline?
Bobby Bones
No, not. I mean, I'm stupid, but I'm not that stupid.
Eddie
Do we go Moneyline? We're making cash.
Bobby Bones
Go ahead.
Eddie
Let me see. I saw this earlier and I was like, I have to remember to bet on this.
Bobby Bones
The Georgia line's wild.
Eddie
The Georgia one.
Bobby Bones
Georgia minus. I'm going Georgia 43 and a half.
Eddie
I'm going Georgia minus 43 and a half over. Who they playing? Charlotte.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, the Hornets.
Eddie
Dude. Let's go, baby.
Kevin
Lamello ball.
Eddie
I think they're the Bobcats or something. I don't know what they are.
Bobby Bones
You're going Georgia -43.
Eddie
Dude, that's a no brainer. They can't go that.
Brandon Marcelo
Come on, man.
Bobby Bones
It's hard to just score 43 and a half. Well, so you can't score a half. It's hard to just score 43 points period. Against air. It feels like. But I hear you. Okay.
Eddie
I think this is a no brainer.
Bobby Bones
That's your pick.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
Kevin.
Bobby Bones
H. So we're building our parlay here. Presented by drive kings.
Kevin
Yeah. Georgia 43 and a half.
Bobby Bones
The other game that if I wasn't so like bullish on Arkansas, just throwing a nugget at me at some point point this year I would have gone Vanderbilt.
Kevin
That's what I'm looking. I'm looking at that in Oregon.
Eddie
I was thinking Oregon. You don't want to do Oregon.
Kevin
No, I'm going to do Vanderbilt minus nine and a half.
Bobby Bones
Kentucky at Vandy.
Kevin
Yeah, Kentucky at Vandy.
Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
Now let's go over and talk to Brandon Marcelo. He works for CBS Sports. He is a college football reporter. He is really following the Lane Kiffin situation if when he leaves Ole Miss. He wrote about it this week, which you can read@cbssports.com follow him if you love college football at Brandon Marcelo. Here he is. Brandon Marcelo. All right, we are on with Brandon Marcelo. I haven't looked at the line of the Arkansas Texas game, Brandon. But I was telling them Arkansas is going to win this game. We're going to be Texas.
Kevin
Whoa.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, it doesn't even matter the line.
Brandon Marcelo
I think it's like ten points, something like that.
Bobby Bones
I guessed eight and a half.
Kevin
Perfect.
Bobby Bones
It is eight and a half.
Eddie
Nailed it.
Bobby Bones
Well, wow. Here's the thing about Arkansas. We just happened to be talking about this when you came on, but here's the thing about us. Yeah, we suck, but we once a year do something you don't expect, like one time just to give you like a glimmer and that's going to be beaten Texas. So Arkansas Moneyline bet it not. Not you, Brandon, but anybody out there. I'm just that. Look, I'm not bullish on Arkansas football, trust me. But we're doing it, man. Brandon, good to see. I was reading your article yesterday about Lane Kiffin. What's up?
Brandon Marcelo
Only that man knows and I'm not sure he knows. It's fascinating as much as he's talked about how he's learned from the past. Like three years ago when he was contemplating taking the Auburn job and Ole Miss ended up suffering for it because I think they lost like three Straight games at the end of the season, as a result of all that drama, he hasn't changed very much. He's dragging this out. And in fact, if anything, it's worse because he's got. I mean, legitimately. The Ole Miss administrators are like, you know, we need an answer, dude, because we got playoffs to prepare for, potentially, and if he takes an SEC job, they're not going to let him be the. The coach through the playoffs. They're going to be like, you got to go, dude. You're going to coach for a rival. We can't have that. So. And you got a fan base there that I wouldn't say is necessarily turning against them, but there's. They're sick of it, too. And again, I. The very fact that he's sitting there, like, going, oh, I. I don't know, or whatever, I mean, that does not reflect well on Ole Miss either. So, like, if you're like a recruit or anything, like, how do you feel about Ole Miss? If leaving your head coach is sitting there thinking, I don't know if I want to stay here. I. It's. It's a bit insane.
Bobby Bones
There are people like a Brandon Walker, who I'm friends with, who works at barstool, and he's convinced that this is a wrestling move or he wants to do the big show. Like, I'm staying. He's dragging it out so he can say he's staying. You think that's true?
Brandon Marcelo
Oh, I think it's very possible. Don't discount anything from Lane Kiffin. The guy's an entertainer. He's a troll. He always has been a troll online, if you ever follow his stuff and what he does. I could see that. I could see him coming out in the egg bowl, you know, after the game, after winning it or whatever, and standing on the middle of the field saying, I'm not going anywhere. You know, he's just that type of guy.
Bobby Bones
Now, my. I'm just going to go from memory, so this could be factually inaccurate, so you can help me out. But didn't he take the job at Ole Miss when he was the offensive coordinator at Alabama? And then Sarkeesi ended up calling the plays, but because they removed him off.
Brandon Marcelo
That staff, he took the head coaching job, I think, at fau.
Bobby Bones
Oh, that's what it was, fau. That's right. It was fau.
Kevin
Yep.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah, he took the job at fau. And they were like, yeah, you're a.
Bobby Bones
Little.
Brandon Marcelo
Busy right now. You need to go. So Saban's like, you gotta go. Man, you can't stay here.
Bobby Bones
And so Sarkeesian up calling the plays, and he ended up being the offensive coordinator. But now I'm going to roll over to Sarkeesian here. He's now said he's not going anywhere. Do we believe that?
Brandon Marcelo
Who wants him? No one wants him. I mean, we. We went through this, like, a few weeks ago with him. There were rumors, there's a report out that he was letting NFL teams know that he was interested in whatever. And I was looking into it. I couldn't confirm that part of it, but I talked to a couple of agents and both of them said, who in the NFL wants him? No one wants him. We haven't heard anything along those lines. So, I mean, who. Where would he go? I mean, you know, as one person pointed out to me, I mean, the guy's got three losses right now. He's seven and three. They're not going to make the playoff. Like, who's hiring him and why in the NFL? I mean, it's. But that hasn't stopped the rumors. I mean, the rumors have been nuts and. And a lot of that stuff's usually started out by, you know, rival fans and. And fake Twitter accounts and all that stuff, but used to be. I. I don't know. Steve Sarkeesian's never struck me as a guy that has thin skin, but it just seems like that this is something that's kind of gotten under his skin for whatever reason. And I'm sure the losses piling up has kind of evoked that a little bit.
Bobby Bones
I was thinking about making a substantial bet on the national championship, and I haven't. I haven't done a future at all. And it's. I don't want to bet. I never want to bet the favorite. I never do if I'm making a substantial bet, unless it's, like, my team. So I'm not going to bet Ohio State. I'm not going to bet Indiana. I'm really leaning toward Texas Tech because I think the odds versus how good they, like, tell me how good you think Texas Tech is.
Brandon Marcelo
They're pretty good. I. The problem I have with them is, like, every game I watch, I feel like they should have scored, like, two more touchdowns. They just seem to, like, they're not quite living up quite their potential of what I see on paper potentially. I also have issues with, like, what are they going to look like when they get into the playoffs against a team that's about the same as far as talent and especially in the trenches that can match up well, with them, this is a team that's going to be very much predicated their success on what kind of matchups they have in the playoff. I don't think they're a team that's going to be able to overwhelm anybody that's in that 12 team field other than maybe the group of six champion. Whereas I could say that about Ohio State, I can say that about Indiana, I could probably even say that quite honestly about Oregon and then. And in the sec teams like Bama. Actually, I think a Tech Bama game would be fascinating. I think Tech would very well win that game. But like Tech, Georgia, things like that. But what, what kind of odds do you have on that for the futures?
Bobby Bones
Well, before I got I and before I jumped into all the odds, I don't want to be fully affected by odds, but I know I don't want to bet the best odds so we could pull them up. The other team I was going to bet is Georgia because I felt comfortable with Georgia and I feel comfortable with the coach that's been there. If all things are equal. I like experience and so Georgia was kind of my secondary because they're not going to be one or two. You have the odds, Kevin.
Kevin
Yeah. Plus 1400.
Bobby Bones
Four Texas Tech. Man, that's heavy.
Kevin
Yeah, they're six.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's heavy. I like, I like that. Plus 1400. What about Georgia? I'm gonna guess plus 700.
Kevin
1000.
Bobby Bones
Oh, I gotta go Georgia then, right? Oh yeah. Go Georgia.
Eddie
Yeah.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Go Georgia. Kirby's the best coach out there right now. Watch the second half of a lot of these games this year. Some of the just the, the end game adjustments they've made and clamping down on opponents. Kirby's out coached like practically everybo, including even in that loss against Bama. You look at the second half of that game, I mean the way they were able to kind of. I don't know, I think Kirby's the best coach by far in the country.
Bobby Bones
Anything to the fact that Oregon has not beat the top 25 team this year?
Brandon Marcelo
That doesn't really concern me very much. They're so explosive and so quick and fast offensively, defensively. That defensive line I think is, is great. Maybe not elite, but it's great. They got issues this week against usc, but the good thing for them is it's at Oregon. USC's defense is kind of very hot and cold. So you pick up that when you obviously get your top 25 win and that really helps your resume and everything. But it's just the schedule's a schedule. It's kind of rare for a Big Ten team like, you know, Oregon. I mean, they're only been in the league for two years. But I just say any Big Ten team where you're just not playing top 25 teams on routine, and that's because the, the big tent has been so top heavy this year. There's been like four teams, five teams. But let's see how they perform this week, especially against an explosive offense with a dynamic quarterback like Jaden Mava for usc. But they're still a great team.
Bobby Bones
One of the headlines that I saw this morning, or maybe yesterday afternoon was Dylan Rayleigh, his little brother decommissioned from Nebraska. What does that say about Dylan?
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah, that's a big question I've been getting. I'm actually going to Penn State this weekend to cover Nebraska pen late and, and my bosses are like, you need to, need to go look into that and talk to some people. You know, listen, Dylan, no matter what other people say, our reporting, Dylan was thinking about potentially leaving last year and that kind of surprised us. But if that goes into the thinking there, I mean, it shows you that that's always kind of been lingering and you know, for the kid Dayton, his little brother to decommit so quickly, the only thing you could look at it from a 30,000 foot view is, you know, TJ Lateef, the freshman quarterback they have there in Nebraska that's had to come in and replace Dylan because Dylan's injured. You know, he's performed pretty well, but I don't know why that would make Dayton all of a sudden go, oh man, I won't be able to play for a couple years. Well, yeah, you're a freshman quarterback. You're probably not going to play for a couple years. But maybe it leans more into what Dylan's thinking is he's injured on the sideline. Maybe he's thinking about, I can go get more money somewhere else, something to watch, something to monitor.
Bobby Bones
Sam Lovett.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah, I bet he leaves Arizona State. You know, the, the teams to watch out there when we talk about these big time quarterbacks is going to be like a Miami because they've done that the last two years. They got Cam Ward and then Carson Beck. They're going to throw money around trying to get a big time quarterback this year once again. So guys like Sam Levitt, Dylan Raiola, as you just mentioned, you know, those are the type of players you're going to have to keep an eye on.
Bobby Bones
DJ Lagway would You put him in that?
Brandon Marcelo
I don't know. Not necessarily. He has struggled so much and he would be a commodity. I don't think he'd be one of the top two commodities out there.
Bobby Bones
We played a game where it's like, hey, is this real? Last week, and it was the Virginia Tech and the James Madison coach or whatever it was getting off the plane. You're like, that's not a real picture of him arriving. And so that got pretty good traction online. And so I want to play another version of Is it real? Because I'm not sure what to believe. Did Lane Kevin's family really go to Knoxville and Baton Rouge? Not Knoxville, Baton Rouge and Gainesville. Sorry.
Brandon Marcelo
Yes, they did. Layla. Layla Kiffin, his ex wife was on the plane for each trip. They went to Gainesville Sunday, then went to Baton Rouge Monday. Who else was on the plane? It was some family members. I don't know exactly who, but yeah, confirmed. Layla Kiffin was on that plane visiting Gainesville and visiting Baton Rouge.
Bobby Bones
But she's the ex wife. Right. Like, why does. Is it like at school? I don't. Something that just isn't all. It doesn't all come together.
Brandon Marcelo
I, I believe now, I, I don't know about this. I think that they're kind of together again.
Bobby Bones
Oh, okay.
Brandon Marcelo
Potentially. And. Or at least they've repaired the relationship quite a bit. It's kind of what has been hinted toward online on, On. On Lane's insta. The last.
Bobby Bones
Hey, good for them.
Eddie
Yeah, that's good.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But yeah, yeah, I mean. And one of those planes to. To Baton Rouge for LSU was. Is owned by a big time LSU booster. So, you know, the dots are very well connected.
Bobby Bones
It's so weird because you can hide this so easily. Even not even booster, you can charter a plane in nobody's name. Like, and it's because, again, I do fly. This is not a flex. I'm just telling you how I know this. I do fly private a bit. And so it is so easy for them not to know who is on that plane publicly if you just do five minutes of work. So the fact that they're able to know this and even that booster. They want people to know this. It's wild to me.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah. You know, in recent years it's been more difficult because as you said, people do that or they'll even fly out candidates, for example, out to like a neutral location.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Brandon Marcelo
The meat where it's like, what? Yeah, so it's like even like if you're, if you're the head coach of Mississippi State and you're like interviewing for a bigger job. No one's going, why is that airplane leaving Columbus, Mississippi and going to, to, you know, Roanoke when it's, you know, they're, they're interviewing for the Ohio State job or something like that? You know, schools have started doing that more often. In fact, I was talking to a search committee guy about a month or so ago. He told me a funny story how he can't remember the name of the airport. It's a very small airport. They're bringing candidates out there for a big job, so no one could really track them or wonder what's going on. And it was funny because they had. They brought in a guy, interviewed him, and then they had small break, right? And they're just in a small room in this regional airport. But during that break, the coach who interviewed for the job, the first go around ran into the coach who was coming in to interview and they're like, what are you doing here? Are you interviewing for the same job? So it's. I, I would love to, you know, someone one day is probably going to write a book about the craziest coaching searches and stuff because all these search committee guys and these search firms that these schools hire and the ads, they've got some wild stories.
Bobby Bones
Then let's speculate again just on the jobs that are still open. Obviously, James Franklin went to Virginia Tech a plus higher. Awesome. Love it for Virginia Tech. Love the fans at Virginia Tech. They're not annoying because they don't win a lot. Awesome. So we can take them off the board. You don't have to hold on to this next week. Things change. Lsu.
Brandon Marcelo
Lane Kiffin, Florida. I would like to tell a joke. Lane Kiffin, Lake. If it's gonna coach three SEC teams next year, I don't know, but I think LSU has the edge over Florida right now for Lane Kiffin. And I don't know where Florida turns.
Bobby Bones
Do they go to drink? Did they go to drink?
Brandon Marcelo
They'll try, probably. Yeah. But Lane's been, I mean, they've been absolutely obsessed with him and trying to get him, you know, this past couple days. They started trying to do interviews with secondary candidates after the Lane to LSU rumors started bubbling up. And, you know, one of those, those interviews was canceled reportedly with Tulanes coach John Summerall. Saw that. But, yeah, I think Eli's name is one that will pop up there if the Lane situation gets dicey.
Bobby Bones
Arkansas.
Brandon Marcelo
Eric Morris.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I feel like the, the. You look so.
Brandon Marcelo
You look so unimpressed no, I'm not.
Bobby Bones
I'm. I will. I will be. I will be fine with whomever. Whomever. I don't. It's not that I don't care. I don't. I'm not caring, but I don't not care.
Brandon Marcelo
So what you're saying is you're just setting your expectations the bottom of the floor so you can be surprised and impressed.
Bobby Bones
I'm just going to support whomever it is.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I'm just gonna. It doesn't matter. This is a weird situation. And I have mentioned before, I've flown too close to the sun at times, and I've. I've not like people at the. At my favorite thing in the whole world, and so I don't like that. So I'm. I'm not involved. They didn't ask me to be involved. However, how I've been involved is I've had now three coaches reach out to me that have interviewed. And so.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah, yeah, listen. You know, Bobby, there's been like 20.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Brandon Marcelo
At least 20 coaches have interviewed for this thing.
Bobby Bones
So I don't want to, like, get excited about anybody I've talked to. I didn't give anybody. So it's just like, whatever happens, happens. I'm not that. I don't have a relationship with any of these guys, really. Some I know more than others. But the one thing that concerns me, and I don't even want to say concern because it's going to feel negative.
Brandon Marcelo
Right.
Bobby Bones
I'm hearing. And you can please God, tell me I'm wrong because you have so many sources. I'm now starting to hear an actual legitimate Jon Gruden. Not that he's going to be it, but that he's actually possibly in play. That would be the one I don't want.
Brandon Marcelo
I have not heard that. But that doesn't mean it's not true. It's just among all the industry guys I talk to, that's a name that has not come up at all in any of the conversations I've had.
Bobby Bones
If I had a button that had the Hallelujah chorus, I would hit it right now. So I. And I just.
Brandon Marcelo
Just. It just doesn't make sense on a lot of levels, man. I don't know why you would entertain that at this point. You really shouldn't.
Bobby Bones
What would be crazy is Ole Miss, like, they're going to take the most because that job. Lane made that job good. That if that job opens up, it's going to be the bottom drops out of who they can get. It's not like they automatically can get a great coach because they had Lane Kiffin. They're. They're just a mid SEC team, right? Unless they're just dedicating all this money. They're like we have this money, we're dedicating the money.
Brandon Marcelo
Now they've got, they would have some coaches very interested in it. I'm trying to think what I could say. They're prepared and I think they've already got a couple of coaches in mind and I think either of those type of hires would be very, very good. The problem though is that if when they take that job, if they do the fans they're going to immediately think you have to win 10 games next year. And that's going to be unfair because the roster is going to turn over and it's going to different. The good thing for Ole Miss though in that job now is their nil program. The support system there is phenomenal. It's awesome. And that's part of the reason why Lane's been successful is because I mean it'll draw in that talent in addition to Lane's coaching, obviously, but that place is going to be so disappointing the next coach if they don't win 10 games next year. And that's just unfair. And that's something some of these coaches are have to weigh. But they've got a couple of names in mind and I'm telling you both of those names would be very interested in taking the job and they'd be good hires.
Bobby Bones
Would it be weird if Dan Mullen took that job?
Brandon Marcelo
Oh God, that would be nuts. He wouldn't do it, I don't think.
Bobby Bones
Really?
Brandon Marcelo
Because. Yeah, because you, you, you know someone put out there that arc he was interested in the Arkansas job and I could have told you in July that was not the case. There's certain SEC jobs like even if he did so well unlv, his name started popping up. Big name coach coaching searches. There's certain jobs in the SEC he just doesn't has no interest in. One of them was Arkansas at the time. And when I talked to him in July and I just don't see how he would do Ole Miss. You cannot ruin your legacy at a school at Mississippi State where you're number one in the country for several weeks. You had Dak Prescott, you won all these games, did things that had never been done at Mississippi State just to go get back in the SEC for the heck of it. Not he would have no interest in that.
Bobby Bones
My final question. Do you think Gus Malazan ends Up being a head coach after, after this little. The circuit, this carousel, probably not.
Brandon Marcelo
I, you know, it's. I'm very close to Gus. You know, I. I think if, like, they got down the list at Arkansas and, like, they're like, we got to hire Gus Malzon or whatever, because he's like, fifth on the sixth on the list. I know everybody. It'd be a negative viewpoint because he's turned down the job twice before and, you know, he's obviously quote, unquote, not what he was. He was at Auburn, then ucf, now he's an offensive coordinator at Florida State, which, you know, by the way, they have a top five offense. But I almost think that it would be one of those hires if something like that were to happen, that everybody be like, oh, this sucks. And then two years later, we're looking back going, this is. Is probably the best thing that could have happened to us because we got a guy that understands the state, understands everything, is obsessed with getting this thing back off of the floor and has us back in bowl games and building toward the future. And we've got top 15 recruiting classes on a steady pace for the first time in a long time, if not ever. And is building this thing up the right way? That's where he's done everywhere. At ucf, he had the best recruiting classes they've ever had in their history. There Auburn, same exact thing. Best recruiting classes they've really ever, ever had. And he's just a phenomenal coach. And I think if you put him back in his home state and he's near the end of his career now and he feels like he has so much more to prove, I think that could be a really great thing. But I just don't know if he's a serious candidate at Arkansas. And as I said, I'm saying that more or less is like, like one of his friends. And, you know, and because the Arkansas search is so close to me and I'm so concerned about it and how much of a mess it's turned into, that as much as we sit here and go, man, there could be some, like, hires made, you go, oh, no. But, like, if it got down far enough, the list and it was like, someone like that, I think it'd have a bad response, but I think it would actually work out in the. In the short term.
Bobby Bones
I would like Gus to be the head coach. And I know that's not the popular sentiment amongst Twitter. It's all Twitter. I think Gus would be a great head coach for us because he would care. And I think he's good. And I think both of those things matter. Yeah.
Brandon Marcelo
I mean, this is a guy that I think has. I need to go back and look. I remember writing about when I was a beat writer at Auburn. This guy has one losing season in his entire career or two losing seasons in his entire career dating back to the early 90s when he was a high school coach. And one of those losing seasons was his first year as a high school coach in tiny Hughes, Arkansas. And the other year, I think was UCF's first year in the Big 12 when they were transitioning to the Big 12. He's had a winning season every year.
Bobby Bones
Other than that, I'd be pro. There he is. Brandon Marcelo on Instagram. Brandon Marcelo, good to talk to you. Have a. That's fun. The Penn State thing, That's fun. You're going to Penn State. That'd be a cool column. It's. Even if they suck, that's still cool.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah. I've always wanted to go. I've never been. I wanted to go there for the wide out. This year didn't happen, but hopefully the fans are still showing up. I'm sure they are because the Penn State fans are incredible.
Bobby Bones
All right, there he is, Brandon Marcelo. Brandon, good to talk to you, buddy.
Brandon Marcelo
All right, see you, Bobby.
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Bobby Bones
Hey, I was thinking the Cowboys might make the playoffs.
Eddie
There we go. Are you thinking the Cowboys might beat the Eagles?
Bobby Bones
I think if the Cowboys beat the Eagles. I think. Dude, they're so fun to watch. Offensively, yeah. They're so fake. Yeah. Dude, it's Picket and CD Lamb.
Kevin
Did you see. Not to cut you off. Did you see why they were possibly.
Eddie
Yeah, but I don't.
Kevin
I don't know if that's to go.
Eddie
I don't know if that's accurate.
Bobby Bones
If what?
Kevin
Like they went out, why they were suspended.
Eddie
They're the casino.
Bobby Bones
Oh, I know. What's the till?
Kevin
7Am they were in Vegas playing the Raiders and people were saying they were out all night gambling.
Eddie
That's the rumor.
Bobby Bones
That tracks. I don't know that it's true. That tracks.
Eddie
So you know that they didn't play the first drive.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I saw that. I saw. It was a funny picture. They're just standing in the side, like, right beside each other.
Eddie
Yeah, the visual was hilarious. They look like two little kids in trouble.
Bobby Bones
The Cowboys, they're so fun. And I think. What, Dax? 21 and six. 21 touchdowns, six interceptions. Yeah, they're so fun to watch. Offensively, yes. And defensively, they're.
Eddie
They made moves, dude. I mean, I don't know.
Bobby Bones
It's.
Eddie
I know they made moves. It's hard to say because we beat the Raiders. I get it. And we stopped the Raiders.
Bobby Bones
You beat who was in front of you. That Cardinals loss sucks for you. So bad. But can't look back. I. I think if the Cowboys beat the Eagles, I think it's fun for you again.
Eddie
I'm with you, baby. I'm with you.
Bobby Bones
Eagles are probably second best team in the NFL, so that's. It's not like it's an easy one.
Eddie
Below the Colts.
Bobby Bones
No, below the Rams.
Eddie
I know. I was joking.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Colts, though. I have them number six in my power rankings.
Eddie
Oh, do you? Do you have, like, you write down power rankings like we did it on?
Bobby Bones
Lots to say. I do it every week. Got it.
Eddie
Got it.
Bobby Bones
Okay. I had rams at 1, eag at 2, broncos at 3, chiefs at 4 at 5 and 5. And everybody flipped their crap because I had. Because they're five and five. I'm like, I still believe. I still believe in my homes.
Eddie
I had to use a restroom in the house, and I think somebody was using the one in my room. So I went to my son's room to use his restroom, and I saw all these papers. Like, what's this dude writing in the bathroom? All Power rankings every week of. Of NFL. Oh, every week is this.
Bobby Bones
You should bring his in.
Eddie
Okay, I will.
Kevin
His latest version.
Eddie
He was pretty embarrassed when I. When I.
Bobby Bones
Well, then don't bring him in.
Eddie
I'll ask him. I'll ask him.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that'd be fun. We'll read them.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Bills at Texans tonight. So Bills minus five and a half at the Texans. This is a game the Bills need to win to just stay with the Patriots.
Kevin
That's right. Stay with us.
Bobby Bones
They should. I like the game, though. Thursday night games have become way better than Monday night games. Yeah. Last week, that's kind of been the flip. Yeah, but the game. But it was a. I know.
Eddie
I know. You see it on paper. Cowboys, Raiders. Like, why are we watching this? I get it.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. The Thursday night games used to be. Suck.
Eva Longoria
Yes.
Bobby Bones
And Monday night was good. Now it's Thursday night's been good, and Monday nights kind of sucked.
Eddie
Do you like Herb street? NFL?
Bobby Bones
He's like. He's like a comfortable pillow.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Like, it doesn't matter what he's doing. It's. I don't ever go. I don't like it. I don't think I ever go, man, this guy's nailing it. Like, at times, Romo can be super dynamic because he's predicting stuff, or even Tom Brady's doing that a little bit now. And I know they've kind of cautioned them from doing that just in general, but those two. Because they've played and because they'll kind of put their neck out when they hit. You're like, dang, that's crazy. Like, they know what they're talking about. You don't get that with Herb street, but that's not his thing. But Herbstream always makes me feel good. Like, it's just like my buddy up there, like, who's knowledgeable and feels warm and.
Eddie
And I feel like they're both so relaxed. Maybe because they're on prime and they feel like they can just kind of.
Bobby Bones
Goes on a live stream.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Who the F cares?
Eddie
Yeah. Like, I think Al Michaels said something like, that sucks.
Bobby Bones
Al Michaels does get more crotchety later the game goes. And later in the season, bedtime. Yeah.
Kevin
He doesn't care. He's like, I'm just doing this for fun.
Eddie
Yeah. That's a little B.S. i think.
Bobby Bones
So. That's. Yeah, that's a good game. I think The Titans should just call it.
Eddie
Oh, throw the towel on the side.
Bobby Bones
Hey, guys, we're going to go ahead and go home and just start building back toward next year, so all W's. And for everybody who plays this. But we're good, though. We want to try to stay healthy. And I think Titans just call it.
Eddie
I think they should keep playing so we can go to the games for $10 a pop.
Kevin
You can go this weekend.
Bobby Bones
It's cold, though. Yeah, if it's cold. I drive by sometimes when that. When a game's going on and it's cold outside and there's nobody there. Right. Because Titans.
Eddie
Right.
Bobby Bones
And I'm like, who would go when the Titans suck and it's freezing? But the next stadium is going to be domed, right?
Kevin
Yeah.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah.
Eddie
Is it domed?
Kevin
Oh, yeah.
Eddie
Looked open.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Kevin
Yeah, it might be, like, retractable, but it's definitely dome.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Game of the week in the NFL. Colts at Chiefs.
Eddie
Yeah. Gosh. Who would have thought. Who would have thought that that was going to be a game of the week both ways?
Bobby Bones
Who would have thought the Colts would be good? And who would have thought the Chiefs? Although my number four overall team in the NFL at 55 would be Indigo Chiefs. Yes. They have to. Have to win.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
They can lose two more games the whole year, and this shouldn't be one of them. So, yeah, that's a fun game. But who. Who do you think can win the Super Bowl? Who can win the Super Bowl? So I'll say the team. You tell me yes or no. Not that they will or you're betting on it, but who can? They can. The Bills.
Kevin
Yes.
Bobby Bones
Okay, cool. The Texans.
Kevin
No.
Bobby Bones
Agree. Steelers?
Kevin
No. Bears?
Brandon Marcelo
No.
Bobby Bones
Giants?
Kevin
No.
Bobby Bones
Lions?
Eddie
Yes.
Kevin
No.
Bobby Bones
You're gonna go?
Kevin
No. I'm gonna go no.
Bobby Bones
Why?
Kevin
I think they're too inconsistent. I think it'll come back. If they're not playing at home in that dome, then I think they're in trouble.
Bobby Bones
They are, like, 500 away and, like, almost undefeated at home.
Kevin
At home.
Bobby Bones
Right. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go no as well. Patriots.
Eddie
Yes. Heck, yeah.
Bobby Bones
No, I think got the mvp. I think their ceiling is probably. Their ceiling is AFC Championship. I think they could win a playoff game, and that's. That's massive for the.
Kevin
Yeah, I know. I've tried to, like, get there mentally.
Eddie
Do you really think, though, like.
Kevin
Yeah, but now I'm like, remember the beginning of the season? I was like, if they win eight games, nine games, I'll be happy. They've already done that. If they Go to the playoffs. I'll be happy if they win a playoff game. Holy crap. And like, now I'm like, what are.
Bobby Bones
They going to do now he's getting pissed. If they don't win this, you know. Bengals.
Kevin
No.
Bobby Bones
Hey, Burrow's not coming back this week.
Kevin
Nobody is.
Bobby Bones
A full practice.
Kevin
Yeah, he could, I guess, technically, but I don't think he is.
Eddie
But Jamar Chase is out for spitting. Idiot.
Bobby Bones
Idiot.
Kevin
Classic.
Bobby Bones
And he's on my fantasy team.
Eddie
I know, guys.
Kevin
He didn't do it.
Eddie
He did.
Bobby Bones
But the thing is, he didn't spin the face mask.
Kevin
He didn't like Jersey out of chest. Oh, I was happy to see that.
Eddie
That was probably gravity. He was probably aiming for the face mask and the gravity.
Kevin
Some heavy spit, man.
Bobby Bones
Okay, Vikings.
Eddie
No.
Kevin
No.
Bobby Bones
Packers. I'm gonna go.
Eddie
Yes.
Bobby Bones
No, I think they can.
Eddie
No, they cannot.
Kevin
I don't trust Jordan.
Eddie
I don't either.
Bobby Bones
You just don't want them to win because of our money. Granted, they're not playing at that level right this second, but I do think they can. They can. I think they're the floor of the teams that can. Okay. I can be stupid. The Seahawks.
Kevin
Yes.
Bobby Bones
No.
Eddie
Sam Darnold. He's not going to take him to Super Bowl. He's good. But then you saw this week. I mean, he didn't look good this week.
Bobby Bones
There's four picks, right? Yeah. So it's also the Rams.
Kevin
Yeah, the Rams are really awesome.
Eddie
Well, then when you go to super bowl, you play a hard team.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, you make great points.
Kevin
But it won't be the Rams killer in the nfc.
Eddie
Right. Right. Not them.
Bobby Bones
You do make a great point there. Colts. No, I like the Colts. I'm wrong for the Colts, but no. Chiefs?
Kevin
Yes.
Bobby Bones
Always. Jets?
Eddie
No.
Bobby Bones
Ravens.
Eddie
No.
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Eddie
Oh, dude.
Bobby Bones
See, at the beginning of the year, I picked packers and Ravens and things have changed so much for the Ravens. But they're obviously still in the mix. They're going to win their division. They're going to get a top four playoffs. See, they're not going to get to buy, obviously, because they're not going to be number one in the afc. But, yeah, they can now. But Lamar, same thing. Not the same. He's not the same as Sam Darnold. But we've seen enough Lamar in playoffs where he hasn't won the way we've seen Sam Darnold recently not be able to win big games. Totally different. But I'm saying you could use that logic. But I. Eventually. He's so good. Eventually. That has to not happen to them. I'm going to go. Yes. Yes. Browns.
Eddie
No.
Bobby Bones
For sure. Yes.
Kevin
Yes.
Bobby Bones
Raiders. No.
Eddie
No.
Bobby Bones
Jags.
Kevin
No.
Bobby Bones
No. Cardinals?
Kevin
No.
Eddie
No.
Bobby Bones
Eagles.
Eddie
Yeah, they could, I guess.
Bobby Bones
Cowboys.
Kevin
No.
Bobby Bones
Hey, if they beat the Eagles, hey, we're talking, baby. We're talking, baby.
Eddie
And then Thanksgiving, they beat the Chiefs. Dang.
Bobby Bones
You'll have to be torn then. I know you won't. You'll root for the Cowboys.
Eddie
I will. But if they lose, deep inside, I'll.
Bobby Bones
Be like, it's okay because we have cheats in a money league. Falcons? No. Saints? No.
Kevin
Bucks.
Eddie
Oh, I think they can. I think they can.
Bobby Bones
I don't. I think they're good, but I think their ceiling is probably. Ceiling is get to the NSC championship.
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Eddie
Who are they? Who are they missing? Like, is Godwin.
Kevin
He's done.
Bobby Bones
They rotate injuries. Yeah, they really do. It's like a carousel. Like, one gets one in one.
Kevin
That's like a club. All right.
Bobby Bones
They get a clicker. All right, one in.
Eddie
And then Mike Evans is done, right? He's done.
Kevin
He broke his collarbone. He'll be back for this.
Eddie
For the season.
Kevin
Yeah. For the. At the end of the year.
Eddie
Okay.
Bobby Bones
And Rams. Yes. Right?
Kevin
Yes.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Panthers. No, not Super Bowl.
Eddie
No, not Super Bowl.
Bobby Bones
49Ers. I'm gonna always.
Eddie
Can't count.
Bobby Bones
I mean, if it works out. Brock Purdy. I thank God he played well.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Had he not.
Eddie
That's it.
Bobby Bones
No. We'd have had some drama there. They went with Mac Jones, but then they don't win with Brock Purdy. Kevin, do you still have the odds for the national championship?
Kevin
Yeah, somewhere.
Eddie
Are you gonna.
Bobby Bones
I'll do it now.
Eddie
I wish I had money in my account to do it.
Bobby Bones
I tell you. I wish I had money.
Eddie
I tell you what. I tell you what, man. Hey, if I get. Have a good weekend, I'll run with you on that bet.
Bobby Bones
I don't have it because again, as I mentioned to Brandon Marcelo, I was really leaning toward Tech.
Eddie
I'm with him on that. Like, there have just been games from, like, they. They should have scored more.
Kevin
Got him in front of me.
Bobby Bones
But also, they're not playing great teams.
Eddie
Right.
Bobby Bones
And a lot of times you play up or down to your competition.
Eddie
You shouldn't, but they do. Yeah, you're right.
Kevin
You do.
Eddie
That's sports psychology for some weird.
Bobby Bones
Tell me more about that doctor.
Eddie
I just told my son that, too. Like, my kids do that all the time. Like, when you play bad teams, you guys play worse. I don't understand sports.
Kevin
Like, I'm there mentally.
Eddie
That's what I tell them.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
All right, I'm in. All right, so we're gonna go over to. On DraftKings, we're gonna go over to Futures. Ohio State's plus. Ohio State's plus 175. I'm not betting them. I don't know. And I know Indiana is number two when they put out the poll. I don't know that Indiana, though, if I'm lining it up, is the second. Is the team I would think would be in the championship game against Ohio State.
Eddie
You would think, George, Is it the.
Kevin
Brand or the actual team?
Bobby Bones
The brand's affecting me. Affecting me for sure.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
But there's a big gap between one and two, which is Ohio State plus 175, Indiana plus 500. So that would mean just the easy way to break this down for Everybody. If it's plus 175, if I bet a hundred dollars, I'm going to make 170. $575. If I bet 100 bucks, Indiana's plus 500, I'll make 500 bucks. So that's the rudimentary way. It's correct, right? I'm doing that right.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Okay. Because if it's minus, but let's say it's minus 120. It's going to take 120 to make 100. It's a slightly different, but we're not talking about that.
Kevin
Yes.
Bobby Bones
Texas A and M's plus 750. A little bit of the brand of Texas A and M. They just lose late. They haven't. But they almost, they almost got hit with their own brand against South Carolina.
Kevin
Yeah. Does that make you feel better that they came back or. No, Just, eh.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I think everybody needs to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does. It's just like Indiana, when they beat Penn State, it made me actually feel better about them as a team because there's a point in every season, every good team gets pressed by somebody they didn't quite expect to get pressed by. Like we're talking about like Eddie. Dr. Eddie says with the kid, the psychology of it. So, yeah, it did make me feel better.
Kevin
I still don't know about Marcel Reed. Like sometimes I watch him, I'm like, this guy's awesome. And then sometimes he plays the first half like he did last week and it's like those three picks or whatever it was.
Bobby Bones
If I have Georgia and I bet a thousand bucks.
Kevin
Whoa.
Eddie
And it's plus a thousand.
Bobby Bones
It's. It's an eleven thousand dollar Payout.
Kevin
Yeah, I'm talking about.
Eddie
Man, that'd be nice.
Kevin
What would stop you from thinking that they could win it, you think?
Bobby Bones
Because my instinct was, I think I'm gonna roll with Tech.
Kevin
Yeah, but your wallet says, I think.
Eddie
Your biggest competitor there is just Ohio State, not Tech.
Bobby Bones
I know. Well, it's all how the bracket lines up.
Kevin
True.
Bobby Bones
All right. I'm going in Georgia. Yeah.
Kevin
Nice.
Bobby Bones
My bank sends me a message sometimes like, are you sure? And then I'm like. Like somebody in my bank wondering one if I'm sure I'm betting that much money or am I or somebody going like, I don't think George is to play.
Eddie
Are you sure it's an Ohio State fan. I wouldn't do that.
Kevin
I'm gonna do that with you. 10 bucks. Yeah, same.
Bobby Bones
You know, you guys don't have to ride with me.
Kevin
No, but I like it. I mean, for the odds.
Eddie
Yeah, I'll ride with you.
Bobby Bones
I feel like. Plus a thousand.
Kevin
Yeah, that's really good. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Okay. Please wait while we process your request.
Eddie
Plus a thousand is ten. Ten times.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
So we could win 11,000.
Eddie
Not you, Bobby.
Kevin
We could win 100 bucks.
Bobby Bones
You got a mouse in your pocket?
Eddie
You want to bet a thousand dollars? Brandon?
Kevin
Go ahead.
Bobby Bones
I got a future. And I put on Georgia to an 11,000. Okay, there's that. Mike, how you feeling about Texas? I feel good about it. When Brandon says something like, hey, you're not making the playoff. Yeah, I don't see that happening.
Brandon Marcelo
You don't?
Bobby Bones
Even if you beat Texas A and M, I don't see that happening. Do you think you'll be Texas A and M? That's the last game of the year. I really don't think so. I think that's where we die.
Eddie
Not this week.
Bobby Bones
No. Is a four loss Texas team to you as a Texas fan, is that severely disappointing? It's very disappointing, yeah. Coming into this season, number one, all the expectations, that's like, that's bad.
Eddie
That's not fair.
Bobby Bones
But you haven't lost four, by the way. You're at three. Is three disappointing if it ends three, but no playoff. Three is not as disappointing.
Kevin
Four is disappointing, but no playoffs. Got to be disappointing.
Eddie
Yeah, but it's not fair because you people just voted you number one before they even saw you snap a ball. And then all of a sudden you're supposed to go down from there. Unless you're going to be awesome. Unless you're perfect, you're going to go down from there.
Bobby Bones
But to be number one, they don't just vote because they like the letter T, E, X, A and S. They watched the players last year play perform based on the players that were coming back. The players that were coming. There is a reason.
Eddie
Oh, I thought it was all just arch.
Bobby Bones
They just drew arch part of it.
Eddie
Like, I think that was the main part of it.
Brandon Marcelo
Yeah.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
There's no line on the Texas A and M Sanford game because, oh, they.
Eddie
Can'T go that high.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
What are they going to do?
Bobby Bones
Why are they giving Georgia 43 and a half versus Charlotte? They're doing no line on Texas A.
Kevin
And M. Like, is Charlotte good or something?
Eddie
I mean, Sanford. I've never seen Sanford play football.
Bobby Bones
There's two no lines. There's that one. And there's the Alabama Eastern Illinois game.
Eddie
I bet you a line shows up on Saturday morning or maybe Friday night.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, it's crazy. There's no line.
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Bobby Bones
And then the Georgia Charlotte game is 43 and a half. Like, how do you even find a 43 and a half line? Like, what math probability are you doing to get to 43 and a half? There's the Notre Dame Syracuse game, which is minus 35 and a half for Notre Dame.
Kevin
That's big.
Eddie
Oh, and I found out that Charlotte. They're the 49ers, not the Bobcats.
Kevin
You're thinking of the basketball team.
Eddie
No, I was thinking of Ohio Bobcats.
Bobby Bones
Well, Charlotte was the Bobcats, though, too, before they went back to the Hornets in the NBA.
Eddie
Oh, that's right. I forgot about that.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Terrible years.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
Yeah. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Ohio State, 31 1/2 point favorites over Rutgers, so. All right, that's it. We're done.
Eddie
Oh, I got a question. Yeah, I saw that the Nutcracker is coming into town. Is Kevin going?
Kevin
Oh, is it really?
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
What? You got to send me the info on that.
Bobby Bones
Okay, I just sent you.
Kevin
I got to make sure the Patriots are playing before I buy it, though.
Bobby Bones
And since you did mention a production with singing and dancing. Brandon, would you like to drag your wife for any reason before we get there?
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Bobby Bones
Oh, man, that one time she got hooked on. Yeah. Okay, enough.
Eddie
It's a terrible time.
Bobby Bones
Eddie's coming over to wear a Superman costume and cook for my wife and I tonight.
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Kevin
Are you bringing the salsa?
Brandon Marcelo
Salsa?
Eddie
Yeah, he told me he bought some salsa. Salsa.
Kevin
That's also good.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Do I have to? I cook the fajitas with butter. I'd have to leave that out.
Bobby Bones
You need to ask Caitlin.
Eddie
It's. But for you.
Bobby Bones
You.
Eddie
You're the butter you're the butter guy.
Bobby Bones
I can't really eat butter.
Eddie
Right.
Bobby Bones
But I. I do. I've been running lactate a bit, and I find it kind of helps, so.
Eddie
Yeah. How many lactates are you popping?
Bobby Bones
If it's very light, I'll do two. If it's anything more, nine.
Eddie
Whoa.
Bobby Bones
I snort them.
Eddie
Dang, dude.
Bobby Bones
Quite the joke. Right off the table.
Eddie
Dude. Give me that ice cream.
Bobby Bones
I'm doing one in the butthole, one in the. Snorting it, and taking one through the throat. I'm hitting all ways in. It gets in the bloodstream. How do you put butter in them?
Eddie
I cook. I cook them in butter. Once I. Once they're. Once they're sliced, saute them. And butter.
Bobby Bones
I don't want any vegetables. I hate vegetables.
Eddie
I know you don't like onions and the bell peppers.
Bobby Bones
Can you do fake cheese?
Eddie
You want me to buy fake cheese?
Bobby Bones
Well, fake is the word they've been using at my house. A lot of. I may be wrong about this, but, like, I don't. Is there anything. Almond cheese?
Eddie
I've seen something like that.
Bobby Bones
Mike would know Almond cheese, Cashew cheese. We've had some both. Could you just investigate that?
Eddie
What do you want, almond or cashew?
Bobby Bones
Which one's more cheesy, Mike? I'd say almond's a little creamier. All right. I'd like some almond cheese, please.
Eddie
Almond cheese.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
All right.
Bobby Bones
And I would say go with the butter. I'll just eat lactate. The cashew probably melts a little better.
Kevin
Ooh, Good mixture.
Bobby Bones
Let's go with the almond.
Eddie
How about just take one more lactate and we'll do regular cheese?
Bobby Bones
If you send me one. Kind of funny. That mean it's still up there and it hasn't. It hasn't fully.
Eddie
Yeah, yeah. Dissolved.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so we're doing that today.
Eddie
Fun.
Kevin
Nice. I got to see some pictures.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
Videos.
Brandon Marcelo
Why?
Bobby Bones
It's hard to get the. It's hard to get the camera under there to show that, though, when I put it in, like, I have to bend over.
Eddie
That's what you want, Kevin, you got.
Kevin
You got any there for it?
Bobby Bones
Bend over. All right, thank you, guys. We will see you next week. Goodbye, everybody. Love it.
Eddie
Thank you.
Bobby Bones
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Date: November 20, 2025
Host: Bobby Bones
Featured Guest: Brandon Marcello (CBS Sports)
Contributors: Eddie, Kevin
This episode of 25 Whistles swings between sports talk and playful banter, featuring heated debates about side hustles, music, recent football games, and deep analysis of college coaching changes—especially the swirling rumors around Lane Kiffin. The show closes with speculative NFL playoff talk and the classic “who can win the Super Bowl” game. Special guest Brandon Marcello brings insider knowledge on college coaching drama and national championship picks.
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| Segment | Timestamp | Notes | |---------|-----------|-------| | Eddie's salsa & hustle | [04:05–06:26] | Lighthearted, motivational, identity humor | | Nostalgia concerts & festivals | [06:33–11:22] | Switchfoot, 90s bands, Stagecoach | | TikTok tears over NFL players | [14:08–15:48] | Eddie gets emotional | | College football parlay picks | [16:38–18:51] | Weekly picks; betting talk | | Interview: Brandon Marcello | [23:21–46:48] | Deep dive on Lane Kiffin and coach carousel | | Super Bowl contenders debate | [53:18–58:12] | Rapid-fire NFL analysis | | College FB betting futures | [28:20; 60:16–62:48] | Who's worth a big bet? | | Lactaid & food banter | [65:00–66:48] | Comedy gold; life hacks for the lactose-intolerant |
The episode is spontaneous, candid, and blends locker room humor with sincere sports analysis. Bobby’s direct, rapid-fire hosting keeps things fun but focused, while guests and contributors riff with honesty and self-deprecation. The Lane Kiffin discussion stands out for its reporting depth, but the podcast never loses its laid-back, relatable energy.
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Best for: Sports fans who enjoy insider info, betting talk, and authentic banter; not just scores and stats, but real laughs and honest opinions.