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Bobby Bones
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Kevin
This is a podcast called 25 whistles. Talking football and they all wear a whistle yet Stupid. But what did you expect?
Mike
It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles.
Eddie
I blow it.
Bobby Bones
And usually I don't think this story would matter to us here, but sometimes Eddie bets on some weird stuff. There is a story about Federal prosecutors charging 20 men with alleged conspiracy to manipulate basketball games in China.
Kevin
Oh, I bet on that.
Eddie
Did see that.
Kevin
I've definitely been on that before.
Bobby Bones
On Chinese basketball.
Kevin
Yeah, dude. Yeah. Because that stuff happens during the day when nothing's happening.
Bobby Bones
There's also a part of this, too, about college basketball here, but the big version of it I saw first was Chinese basketball. So I'm going to read some of this. I want to credit the right person. So it's the athletic.
Kevin
What are they doing?
Bobby Bones
Also, Harbaugh got hired by the Giants, which is cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that. The Giants aren't the Jets.
Kevin
You mean like they win?
Eddie
They're not as much of a dumpster fire?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah. Kind of a dumpster fire, for sure, but not as much of one. I think that's a place Harbaugh can go and actually win. It doesn't matter who goes to the Jets.
Eddie
No. I feel bad for whoever does go to the Jets.
Kevin
They know that, though.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Federal Prosecutors announced charges Thursday. Okay, this is from Mike Vorkunov from the athletic for 20 men for what they said were their roles in an alleged conspiracy to bribe and manipulate college basketball games involving then active college athletes. The scheme, according to federal prosecutors, involved two men who were also indicted for their alleged role in NBA sports gambling scheme, as well as a former LSU and NBA player, Antonio Blackney.
Kevin
Okay, this is. So this is the American one, not Chinese.
Bobby Bones
I think this is both.
Eddie
It started in China.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
And then it made its way to America.
Kevin
Oh, boy.
Bobby Bones
This just popped across. And I was reading a little before he came on and I thought, I wonder if Eddie been on Chinese basketball.
Kevin
Yeah, I have before.
Bobby Bones
How do you know who to bed?
Kevin
I don't. I just pick.
Bobby Bones
You just pick a team that's there just based on odds.
Kevin
Based on odds.
Eddie
No homework.
Kevin
I'll do a Google, just be like, all right, like, what's the bigger city? They probably have better players.
Eddie
It's fair.
Bobby Bones
So then I guess a big part of this is the college basketball American version of it. I just saw the Chinese part first.
Kevin
That's trouble.
Bobby Bones
Prosecutor said the scheme ultimately included 39 college basketball players and more than 17 teams who shaved points in more than 29 Division 1 games.
Kevin
I mean, Bones, you've watched lots of sports.
Bobby Bones
I want to read the teams here real quick. Mostly just to make sure there's no Arkansas mention.
Kevin
Oh, gosh, can you imagine?
Bobby Bones
The scheme was alleged to be far ranging players on DePaul, Nicholl State, Tulane, LaSalle, Fordham, Northwestern State, St. Louis, Buffalo. So far it's just teams nobody watches. Unless you're on espn.
Eddie
Unless you're Eddie.
Bobby Bones
ESPN plus.
Kevin
Yeah, but those are the ones that I like to bet because I feel like they're not controlled because no one's watching them. Who cares? Just play a real game.
Bobby Bones
International waters. They can do whatever they want. No rules. Robert Morris, Southern Miss, North Carolina, A&T, Coppin State, University of New Orleans, Abilene Christian, Alabama State and Kennesaw State. Yeah, they're all those G5 schools. Schools, I guess because there aren't as many eyeballs on it.
Kevin
Yeah.
Eddie
I wonder if that's why they target those kids.
Bobby Bones
For sure, right?
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And then it goes over. The scheme began in 2022, we when they recruited Blackening, then playing in China for the Jiangsu Dragons. You ever been on this?
Kevin
Doesn't sound familiar.
Bobby Bones
I feel like every team would want to be the Dragons.
Eddie
I know.
Bobby Bones
It's like a fight to get the Dragons right.
Kevin
That's their. That's their thing.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. So that's out. I mean, we're going to see more and more of these toys for sure.
Kevin
So who are these guys? These guys are just gamblers and they were just paying players to shave points so that they can win money. Okay.
Eddie
And then they offer the players. I think I saw like anywhere between 10 and 30 grand.
Bobby Bones
I thought you had more to say.
Kevin
So this has nothing. I'm just trying to clarify, like, so this has nothing to do with the odds makers? Nothing to do with anything more than that. These are just gamblers that see the odds or see the line and they say, hey, we need to get close. We need to.
Bobby Bones
I don't think it's so much about the line. I think it's just if we can get somebody, we can affect what the line is and then bet it.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
Okay.
Bobby Bones
So I don't think they see lines. I think they find vulnerable players or people. Players that you know. Well, yeah, I guess illegal. I was going to say dance around the law, but then that's just a legal.
Eddie
No, no, no.
Kevin
It's straight illegal. Yeah, but so yeah, I just thought it was something different because sometimes I just watch and I look at the lines and I'm like, how can so many games get so close to this line?
Bobby Bones
But they really don't. It's again, it's like you buy a white car, you see all the white cars. Because I've done that experiment where we talked about how do they get so close? So close. But we're only talking about the games that got close, where I did a couple weekends in a row watching all college football games that I bet on and none of them were close. They weren't like within the point.
Kevin
Yeah, those were really different. Yeah, especially that Oregon one. That was really different.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, that one. So that story just broke.
Kevin
That's crazy. I don't like those stories because I started thinking back of like all those parlays. Dude, I would do 20 game parlays on college basketball and Choppin State. All those Coppin State, Coppin State, NCAA and Tulane, they were all part of my parlays. And I was like, those are great because no one really knows, like, and.
Bobby Bones
There'S not a bunch of eyeballs on those games. Like unless you're a die hard fan or a gambler, you're not really watching those games where you may watch on ESPN if Duke and North Carolina are playing.
Kevin
Correct.
Bobby Bones
Or it's a big ACC game. So that came across. I do want to shout out Southwest Airlines because they allowed a fantasy football punishment on their plane, which is pretty hilarious. So. And I have a clip of this, too. On TikTok, Jack Peterson revealed his league's punishment for the loser was having to work an entire Southwest flight as an honorary flight attendant. And they got the crew to go along with it. Mike, would you play that clip?
Mike
We're going to test him out today. If he does a good job, you're going to vote on whether he will be the honorary flight attendant or not. So he is going to assist us today, and if y' all say it's okay, we will vote him in. To be the honorary flight attendant ultimately is up to the pilot, but let's see how he does. So Everybody, this is Mr. Miles.
Bobby Bones
And so we had to go down the aisle. Being a flight attendant, that's awesome. Kind of funny. Flight attendants are very trained, though. If there's an accident or something goes wrong. So if something went wrong, you know, they were shoving him back in the seat. Shut up.
Kevin
Put your seatbelt on.
Bobby Bones
Sit down.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
You know, hijack is now back.
Kevin
I'm sorry.
Eddie
People are hijacking?
Bobby Bones
No. An apple.
Eddie
Oh.
Bobby Bones
Like last night. I think last night it went back up. Season two. Yeah.
Eddie
I started it.
Bobby Bones
You did?
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Is it good again?
Eddie
It's good.
Bobby Bones
Awesome.
Kevin
Do you understand how me and Kevin thought that, like, just hijacking was back?
Bobby Bones
No, I just thought. I expected you guys to read my mind.
Eddie
Like, terrorism is cool. I heard back. It's back.
Kevin
But, I mean, people don't really do that a lot.
Bobby Bones
Do you have your. Your. Because I don't get notifications on my phone on almost anything, but I get Apple note. Probably because I have apple.
Kevin
Because you have an apple.
Bobby Bones
And they, like, fight through.
Kevin
Yes.
Bobby Bones
But I get them. It's like hijack. I. So I knew that hijack is just like, a new season is out. Yeah. Do you guys get those?
Kevin
The apple ones? No. I don't get Netflix telling me anything.
Bobby Bones
They just disregard all rules. Apple you can block on. They still send them through.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
Do you remember when we got all. When we all got the U2 album?
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah.
Eddie
Oh, that was worse on itunes.
Kevin
Yeah.
Eddie
I was in high school.
Bobby Bones
You're like, one.
Eddie
I was in high school. I was like, I don't care about YouTube.
Kevin
Did you listen to the album?
Eddie
Heck, no.
Kevin
Oh, wow.
Bobby Bones
I don't know. I didn't care about YouTube either, but I thought, I'm getting free music because everybody was paying for music then, so I wasn't angry at it. And I think people weren't Angry at it. Until a few people were angry and that made the news. And then they were like, well, let's be angry to mob mentality.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Because you were getting free music and.
Kevin
All you had to do is just not listen to it. Delete it.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
I swear you couldn't delete it.
Bobby Bones
Now if that was true, I swear.
Eddie
I would try to delete it. Like, I don't think. And then every time I get my truck, it would just pop on the Bluetooth.
Bobby Bones
I'm like, oh, I think you could delete it.
Eddie
I don't know.
Bobby Bones
That would be funny if you couldn't. Harbaugh going to the Giants. We saw that. That's pretty cool. I think that works. And I think he is extremely stable. And what's wild about Harbaugh and he's. He was there for what, 19 years.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Is that he's not an offensive or defensive guy. He was a special teams.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Coach.
Kevin
I didn't know that.
Bobby Bones
And so, you know, most head coaches have a specialty. They're an offensive guy. Maybe they were a great offensive coordinator and they bring in an offensive coordinator, but they're still part of that. Or same with defense. But he wasn't either one, which allowed him to manage a bit differently because he wasn't. I'm not going to say not involved. Obviously he was, but neither one of them was his specialty. I don't know any other coaches that came from being a special teams coach to being a really successful head NFL football coach. But also you didn't know that. So maybe. I just don't know.
Kevin
Was he also a quarterback?
Bobby Bones
Jim was.
Kevin
Yeah. So I don't know if John was a quarterback.
Bobby Bones
John maybe in college.
Kevin
Okay.
Bobby Bones
I'd have to look up John's playing resume. And by that I mean I already see Kevin on it. So let me know when you get that. So jobs that are open. Arizona Cardinals, they have predicted Clint Kubiak to get that job. The Seattle offensive coordinator.
Kevin
Yeah, That's. That's the son of Gary.
Eddie
Gary.
Bobby Bones
Do you know him from the Texans?
Kevin
Known from the Texans. And then I saw him in the John Elway documentary.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah.
Kevin
Because he was John Elway's Becca.
Eddie
No, I think it was quarterbacks coach.
Kevin
Meant possibly quarterbacks coach.
Bobby Bones
In Denver.
Eddie
In Denver, yeah. Yeah. When Gary was young.
Bobby Bones
What'd you think about that documentary?
Kevin
I liked it. I liked it. I didn't know a lot about John Elway other than just kind of crazy good athlete, crazy all around athlete.
Bobby Bones
Yankees drafted him.
Eddie
Didn't know what he watched it Too.
Kevin
Didn't know he was going to be.
Eddie
A baseball player and say, have you seen it? And. Okay, yeah. I didn't know a lot of. I watch it for the same reason. I was like, I don't know a lot other than he's John Elwood. But I didn't realize he did the Eli Manning.
Bobby Bones
Okay.
Kevin
You see, I. I had heard that he did this not. Except the. The team that drafted him.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin
I mean, I didn't.
Bobby Bones
I remember that in the documentary.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah.
Eddie
And he played because he did it to the Colts. He played them week two of his rookie year and they got film of that game and it's nasty.
Kevin
Nasty dude.
Bobby Bones
Was it Baltimore?
Eddie
Yes, at the time, yeah.
Bobby Bones
So the Baltimore Colts drafted him.
Kevin
Correct.
Bobby Bones
He said, I'm gonna go play baseball.
Eddie
Right.
Bobby Bones
I haven't seen the documentary.
Kevin
Okay. So the. So the Colts drafted that. At the time, there was a lot of rumors about the owner, which is Jim's dad, Irsay. Well, there was just no discipline in the locker room. They were a bad team. And then at one point, the owner, like, took over the headset and started calling plays.
Bobby Bones
That's awesome. That's what I'd want to do.
Kevin
He said, I'm just not going to be part of that. And so when they draft. And he warned him too, if you draft me, I'm not going to accept this draft. And they drafted him and he just said, I'm not doing it. I'm going to go play baseball instead.
Eddie
They didn't really touch too much on baseball. Like, they kind of just real quick. That part of it. But they didn't get into like, oh, and then he did this in baseball.
Kevin
He did do spring training because he.
Bobby Bones
Got drafted by the Yankees.
Eddie
Yes.
Bobby Bones
So then I'm just going to ask a little bit about that story because I knew all of that, but only broad brush version. When you say second week. Oh, this is.
Kevin
When this is. Once Denver picked him up, then he was kind of just playing baseball. And then Denver was like, we'd like to offer you.
Bobby Bones
Did Baltimore trade his rights or did they just not draft him?
Kevin
Gosh, I don't remember that detail.
Eddie
Well, they drafted him.
Bobby Bones
They did because they did draft him because Eli Manning got drafted by the Chargers.
Eddie
And then. Yeah, they traded Rivers for him.
Kevin
I can't.
Eddie
They did draft him, but I don't.
Kevin
Remember how all that went down.
Eddie
Right.
Bobby Bones
Wasn't he that drafted by the Chargers?
Eddie
Yeah. And then they traded him to the Giants for Philip. And then they were like, the Chargers, like, well, we'll draft Rivers and then we'll swap.
Kevin
But the Colts hated him, like, because of that. They're just like, oh, you spoiled, you know, kid. Like, who do you think you are doing this? Or whatever. So that when he, when he started with the Broncos and they played week two in Baltimore, it was like, crazy. And he played so bad. And the Colts are like, yeah, he played bad.
Bobby Bones
Do they like, crush him?
Eddie
Oh, yeah, they. I don't even know if they said a final score, but they lost. And I mean, the crowd, they have all this footage of the crowd, just like people their shirts off, like, F you, John Elway, blah, blah, blah. All this. And it was, it was intense.
Kevin
I didn't realize all that.
Bobby Bones
How is it 1 episode? 1.
Kevin
1 movie or one documentary?
Bobby Bones
It's good. Would you guys recommend?
Kevin
Oh, yes.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
Cool.
Bobby Bones
I'll watch that one. I didn't get into Cocaine Quarterback because you guys. Like, that's kind of corny.
Kevin
Oh, you're going to watch it now?
Bobby Bones
I don't think so.
Eddie
You watch like one episode of Cocaine Quarterback. Yeah, I get it.
Kevin
I loved it, dude.
Bobby Bones
Okay, what about John Harbaugh?
Eddie
Oh, he played DB at Ohio, but never played in the NFL At University of Ohio. Not the, not the Ohio State University. Sorry. Miami. University of Ohio. That's what it was. All right. Lots of universities in Hawai, Ohio.
Kevin
Miami of Ohio.
Eddie
Miami of Ohio. Where Big Ben played, right?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
Okay.
Bobby Bones
Okay. So did I saw, you know, Dan Reyno was drafted like the third round for baseball.
Kevin
Really? That's interesting.
Eddie
What did he play position?
Bobby Bones
Did it say pitcher and shortstop? When I saw the card, it was a one on one. He signed it because he was drafted early. But Tom Brady was also drafted by the Expos.
Eddie
Yep.
Bobby Bones
Man, those guys that are just athletic.
Kevin
Did Kyler Murray get drafted?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, he was really good by Oakland. Yeah, he was really good. Yeah.
Kevin
So what happens, what happens when you get drafted and then you're just like, I choose football. Like, how does that go down?
Bobby Bones
So it's happened with a lot of people. Well, so there are guys like Chris. Chris Winky. Right. He played baseball, the old quarterback. He played baseball in college and then minor league baseball and then came back to football at like 27 years old. You got to fact check me on that. But. And also the team retained your rights for like a certain amount of years.
Kevin
Also, meaning you can't play for another team if you decide to go play baseball, so they draft you.
Bobby Bones
And then I remember Kyler was still Oakland had his rights for a long time. Still Might actually. So yeah, you can't just hold out. What do you see?
Eddie
Wait, it was wink. He was 28 when he won the Heisman. Yeah, the Heisman.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Kevin
Dude, he's old.
Eddie
I never knew that that was the.
Kevin
Storyline of like him being so old.
Bobby Bones
They were like, he's got gray pubes and we're like, whoa.
Eddie
And people are like on Mendoza for being like 22 or 20.
Kevin
That's nothing.
Bobby Bones
Because the difference I think though is Winky went away to play college or, excuse me, minor league baseball for a long time and didn't make pro and then came back and played at Florida State.
Kevin
But Wink is the last person to do that. Right. We haven't had another 28 year old.
Bobby Bones
I don't think that's correct.
Kevin
You guys had Arkansas last year.
Bobby Bones
I remember a receiver that was like 30. Yeah.
Eddie
Oh yeah. Six seasons for the Blue Jays in the minor league system.
Bobby Bones
Who did?
Eddie
Winky.
Bobby Bones
Winky.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Danny A. Is a crazy story.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Like maybe the greatest American athlete after Jim Thorpe. You know who Danny Ainge is?
Kevin
No, I know Thorpe is just in general.
Bobby Bones
Danny ains basketball. And now he's like the GM of Utah, the jazz. But also was Boston like one championships.
Eddie
In the 80s with the bird with bird in them?
Kevin
The name sounds familiar, but no.
Bobby Bones
So Danny Ainge was a three sport all American in high school. All American high school player of football, basketball and baseball. He went to byu. He won the Wooden Award as college basketball's best player in 1981, while simultaneously while in college playing baseball for the Blue Jays.
Kevin
Wow.
Eddie
Stud.
Kevin
That's amazing.
Bobby Bones
And later becoming a two time champion with the Boston Celtics. He remains one of the few athletes to excel professionally in both baseball and basketball. But again, he also was a football all American in high school.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Which is wild.
Kevin
We have a kid like that in my son's school where he's like just an amazing football player.
Bobby Bones
Guess he played in the. He played in the majors.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
People don't know him for that because he was such a good basketball player and won the championship with the, with the Celtics.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
But he played parts of three seasons with the Blue Jays. Hit two home runs in 1979, was then drafted by the Celtics in 1981. He won two NBA championships. 84 and 86. Played in six NBA Finals with Celtics, Kings and Suns.
Eddie
And then now he's like one of the best GMs. He's. I mean the Celtics are who they are now because he got it all started.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
He's as far as their Players on.
Bobby Bones
The roster don't look at Utah now and be like, they suck. He sucks. He's going in to rebuild. I mean, he got rid of everybody.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
It was, like, just rebuilding through draft picks. What are you saying?
Kevin
Who's the best athlete you guys have seen in person?
Bobby Bones
Like, play, even if it's pro.
Kevin
Yeah. Or you're like, it was just so cool to see him in person. Like, I saw Emmett Smith.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Like, I've seen professional games, but I don't know, like, overall athlete. I've seen, like, famous athletes, but I don't know who I would say is, like, the best overall athlete that I've just been to see, because I've seen that.
Kevin
You never saw Jordan, right?
Bobby Bones
No, I. I've been to one NBA game ever.
Kevin
Really? The one you went to with me?
Bobby Bones
No. I guess two, then. Remember?
Kevin
Dude, I took you in the tunnel, man.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I set courtside at Nick's game once.
Kevin
Oh, okay. No wonder you forgot my game.
Bobby Bones
It was when, like, I had a.
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Bobby Bones
Well, it was when I had, like, a little bit of fame, when I was really popping and I was, like, working a lot on television, and they were like, you can sit court side. And I was like, really? They put me on the screen as one of the celebrities.
Kevin
Yeah. It was crazy. Did you see what's his name?
Eddie
Spike.
Kevin
Spike. Spike Lee.
Bobby Bones
No, I didn't. One of the players fell. Oh, they were playing Philadelphia.
Kevin
Stoudemire. Playing.
Bobby Bones
It's like, five years ago.
Eddie
Oh, that's only. He retired before that.
Kevin
Five years ago.
Eddie
They were playing Phil. Are we trying to figure out who's playing on the Knicks?
Bobby Bones
No, Philly.
Eddie
Oh, Joel.
Bobby Bones
Joel fell on me.
Mike
What?
Kevin
Embiid.
Bobby Bones
He fell into me. Like, not full, but, like, part of his body did. He was the longest guy I've ever gonna say.
Eddie
Well, part of his body was like, one of us.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Like, he came over. Yeah. It's crazy.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I was on the. And then I went and shot baskets after the game. On the court.
Kevin
On the court at Madison Square Garden.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Kevin
That's amazing.
Bobby Bones
In. I haven't thought about this in the. They let us eat in, like, the owner's room, and I went in there and I ate next to Ellen Pompeo from Grey's Anatomy.
Kevin
I don't know.
Eddie
That is.
Kevin
But Grey's Anatomy.
Eddie
Great show. I think so.
Bobby Bones
Is she Meredith. Is she Meredith Gray?
Eddie
Yeah, she is.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Meredith Gray and Grey's Anatomy. I was by myself.
Kevin
You went by yourself? Yeah, I was having to be in New York Yes. That's crazy.
Bobby Bones
And I went in there and I. And also there was a rapper in there.
Kevin
Okay.
Eddie
Tyga.
Kevin
Jay Z. New York. Jay Z?
Bobby Bones
No, it's the Philly rapper.
Eddie
Meek Mill.
Bobby Bones
Meek Mill was back there.
Eddie
Nice.
Bobby Bones
Wow.
Kevin
Dude.
Bobby Bones
How'd you know?
Kevin
That's good.
Eddie
I love me some McMill, man.
Bobby Bones
A lot of alliteration there.
Kevin
Okay, okay. So now tell Kevin about our experience.
Bobby Bones
I went to a Spurs game and we still had a bunch of 7 year olds in the tunnel. Just touched the players.
Kevin
My dad had like a suite, like him and my mom would go, and it was like one of those shared suites where, like, with, you know, 50 other people, right? Like they have food or whatever. And my dad was like, hey, bring your friends. And it's like, we're in middle school. He's like, bring your friends. And I have these, like. They offered me these special passes to, like, go down to the tunnel with the players. And I was like, awesome. So I invited Steve and Bobby, like, let's go to the spurs game. And we go. And I'm like, guys, they've got something special. My dad got us these passes. We go down and sure enough, we go down to the tunnel. It's pretty awesome. We're on the floor and we go to the tunnel. And they say, just wait here against the wall. So we just sit there against the wall and we're just waiting. And then they're like, well, what are we gonna do? It's like, all right, nothing. Just when the players come by, you can give them high fives. And so we did that.
Bobby Bones
Us and all our nine year old buddies.
Eddie
Were you the only adults?
Bobby Bones
No, because there were parents of the kids that were down there too, but.
Eddie
They were standing back.
Kevin
That's true.
Eddie
And you guys were up there.
Bobby Bones
We did, though. We put our hands out and they touched us.
Kevin
Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, sorry, guys. I thought that was gonna be fun.
Eddie
And the Pacers thing was cool, though, when you drove the Indy 500 car.
Bobby Bones
Been to the Pacers?
Kevin
How do you forget about that? You drove the Indy car.
Bobby Bones
Didn't Halliburton get hurt that game?
Kevin
Yes, he did. He split.
Bobby Bones
Yep.
Kevin
That was the split on the floor.
Bobby Bones
Then he was out for a while.
Eddie
Yeah, I think like a month or two.
Bobby Bones
And any more than that, I thought, I've been to one game, but you guys are just reminding me of two others.
Eddie
We're just gonna keep reminding.
Kevin
Have you been to a Grizzlies game?
Bobby Bones
No. No interest?
Eddie
No.
Kevin
They're good. Are you going next week? Next week. Yeah. It's my son's birthday, Jaw or not.
Eddie
Is he gonna be upset if they trade Joe?
Kevin
Nah, they're playing. They're playing the. The Nuggets. I think they're happy. All the kids are happy.
Bobby Bones
Because of Denver. Yeah.
Kevin
Because Denver's gonna be there.
Bobby Bones
Possibly. Jokic.
Kevin
Yes. I think my son's asked for the last three years to go to a Grizzlies game for his birthday. And I was like, it's awesome. It's great for everyone, but what we've never done. And my. My 12 year old, my 11 year old, his. His friends, every time they go, they go stalk the players at the visiting hotel where the visiting team stays. And I'm like, we've never done that. So I'm thinking about doing that this, this time.
Bobby Bones
When we went to the game with the Pacers, we stayed in the hotel where the. Because they were playing Boston.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And we stayed in the visitor hotel. And they were just walking through.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
It wasn't like they went to a back.
Kevin
Yeah, they're there.
Bobby Bones
They're there.
Kevin
So, like, if your kids are there, they want pictures or something, sign like that's where to go.
Bobby Bones
And sometimes they say no, and they have people with them to say no for them, but they walk through there.
Kevin
That's pretty awesome.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
And they obviously stick out because they're seven feet tall.
Kevin
Yeah, exactly.
Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
You see LeBron wearing that patch? So LeBron's wearing a patch of himself.
Kevin
Oh, oh, like a patch you sew on your clothes?
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Kevin
Not like a nicotine.
Bobby Bones
It's actually kind. Yeah, yeah. It's actually kind of. It's on the jersey. It's actually kind of cool. It's weird that he's wearing a patch of himself, but the reason he's wearing is kind of cool. So this is his 23rd NBA season, which is the longest of any player.
Kevin
Wow.
Bobby Bones
He's been playing in the NBA for 23 years.
Kevin
Amazing.
Bobby Bones
And so it's like a silhouette of the chalk toss.
Kevin
Huh? That is kind of weird.
Bobby Bones
It's weird in that a player's wearing a patch of themselves, but it's also cool because he's played for 23 years. And what I think's happening, because I just am in the sports card world a little bit, I think they're putting a new patch on every jersey and they're putting that into cards and those will be worth thousands of dollars each immediately.
Kevin
And if there's ever like a LeBron Award, you know, like Peyton, like Walter Payton, man of the year award, like that, like, that'd be kind of cool.
Bobby Bones
That patch and now him taking it all. What do you mean?
Kevin
Just so you know how, like not.
Bobby Bones
Not the actual patch, what they're using. You mean just if they're building it to a trophy.
Kevin
Yeah, that'd be kind of cool.
Bobby Bones
What do you think about what's happening in golf right now?
Kevin
With what, live?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, with Brooks Koepka, in all the conditions going back.
Kevin
I mean, do you know about it? I. I saw the headline on that. I saw that that LIVE signed Dustin Johnson.
Bobby Bones
So he resigned. So this is rough. Rough version of it. The PGA has said, basically you have until a certain day in February if you guys want to come back, we're leaving the door open. But you do not. This is not forever, and we're not doing it every year. This is like a one time thing. And they said to him he doesn't get to have percentage ownership in that equity program, which is going to cost him like 20 million bucks a year. He's one of the biggest guys. If he comes back, they're making him make a $5 million charity donation to a charity they both agree on. And he had to give up a bunch to come back. And I think it's only open to two other players that have won a major that get to do this. I got to think of who they are.
Kevin
Was Mickelson the other one?
Bobby Bones
No.
Kevin
Okay. Because I did see him in a headline, too.
Bobby Bones
It's Koepka. It's. I think it's Bryson. And it's Sam.
Kevin
Burns. No, he's already in there. Sam.
Bobby Bones
Maybe it's not Sam. It's another guy. Like, I don't think John Rom's coming back. I don't know. I don't know.
Eddie
But anyway, Cam Smith.
Bobby Bones
Cam Smith is who it is. Yeah.
Kevin
Cameron Smith. Yeah.
Eddie
Yeah. And John Rome.
Bobby Bones
Maybe John Rom was the other one I was thinking of. I don't know. Maybe it's open.
Kevin
So what. What. What's going on here? Like, are they. Are they missing the. The competition?
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Kevin
Because they're making gazillions of dollars.
Bobby Bones
They gave up playing real golf to go play in shorts.
Kevin
Yes. With loud music everywhere on teams.
Bobby Bones
Happy Gilmore and I think you missed that.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And so they made a ton of money, so. But they're coming back. But they gotta pay a bunch of money and give up a bunch of money in the equity program. And they're also. Something I read was they can't take the place of a player on. If they come back. Let's say there are 150 people that are taken in. If that person comes back, it's 151. Because they're not gonna let them take the place of somebody else who's wowed.
Kevin
Wow. Even though they're, like, rookies or not very good. That's crazy.
Bobby Bones
I thought.
Eddie
You're the golf guy.
Bobby Bones
I thought maybe.
Kevin
I think. I think. I mean, I. From the very beginning, the fight, them just leaving, and then pga, you know, just banning them because they chose live. All that stuff was very weird to me.
Bobby Bones
You know, I didn't mind that. I just. I understood why they left.
Kevin
Hundreds of millions of dollars, lots and lots of money.
Bobby Bones
I understood why the PGA was like, no, we're good. If you go, you're going to be gone. I. I got all of it, but I do.
Kevin
I did notice last year in the pga, just seeing random winners all the time, like people I'd never seen before win tournaments.
Bobby Bones
Golf's kind of like that, though.
Kevin
And it was weird. No, but, like, when. Like all those. When Rom was there and, like, because I don't.
Bobby Bones
I bet on it. I never win. And I only pick people I heard of.
Eddie
You're like five people.
Bobby Bones
And I bet anytime I bet it's always somebody random I never heard of.
Kevin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
But I get it.
Kevin
I don't know. I. I would love to have them back because I do miss watching them. I think they added a lot to the. To the sport and pga.
Bobby Bones
I've not touched a golf club in months.
Kevin
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, too. I played over the Christmas, the break with my family in Texas. Warmer in Texas, and dude, I just missed it. I loved it. We played. I don't know. I think we ended up playing, like, you know, 26 holes just because we didn't want to leave.
Eddie
Nice.
Kevin
Yeah, it was fun. We want to play again. It's too cold right now.
Bobby Bones
Too cold, and my foot hurts. I gave away my golf simulator.
Kevin
I know.
Bobby Bones
To a golf school.
Kevin
I know.
Eddie
Okay, good.
Bobby Bones
Gave him the whole.
Eddie
I was like, who'd you give it to?
Bobby Bones
Gave him the whole build. Gave him the trackman machine, the whole thing.
Kevin
No, that's really sweet of you.
Bobby Bones
Just donated it. But what am I doing? I'm not really hitting balls in the house anymore.
Kevin
Did you use. End up using that a lot. Did you get it first?
Bobby Bones
I did it first, but then it's like anything else. It's just down there. Treadmill space. A little more than a treadmill, but same. And I'd have people come over and we play. But then when I would stop playing golf for a while before it got too busy, obviously I wasn't using the simulator if I wasn't playing golf. Yeah, but simulators also. Now you can get some first. Not that kind, but you can get. You can make a pretty cheap, good, decent home version. Just hit balls.
Kevin
What is your. Your temperature cap? Like to go play golf? Like, how. What's the coldest?
Bobby Bones
I won't do 40s at all. I don't care if it's 49, I'm out.
Kevin
49. You're not doing it?
Bobby Bones
Nah.
Eddie
What's yours, Eddie?
Kevin
I can do 50. I can do 50. Yeah, I think 50 is my cap.
Bobby Bones
50 is a bit uncomfortable, but 49 I won't do.
Kevin
Yeah, that's a little too cold.
Eddie
And no wind chill.
Kevin
Why didn't even take that.
Eddie
50 feels like 35.
Kevin
Dude, I've gone out where I'm like, oh, I'll brave it out. I'll brave it out.
Bobby Bones
Me too. It sucks.
Kevin
And then it's just like, this isn't fun.
Bobby Bones
You're just miserable and your hands hurt. Yes. And you hit the ball. It sucks. Sotheby's is selling the largest ever American whiskey collection, so they're auctioning it off.
Kevin
I'm not a whiskey guy.
Bobby Bones
Only 60 bottles of this Rip Van Winkle.
Kevin
Oh, yeah, I thought it was Pappy.
Bobby Bones
Well, there's a Pappy, but this is a 1982 old Rip Bandwinkle.
Kevin
Oh, dang.
Bobby Bones
It says that's what it says. I know nothing about it, but I'm reading that verbatim. Only 60 bottles were ever produced, and estimates for that bottle alone range $100,000 to the bottle.
Eddie
Wow.
Bobby Bones
The whole collection is supposed to get around 2, maybe even $2 million. But if you have that, do you even take a lick of it or do you just leave it? And is it all a collector and you just resell it again because it's food?
Kevin
Yeah, yeah. But those things last forever. They're sealed. It's like, it's not like.
Bobby Bones
I hear you, but if you buy it, do you take a drink of. Is it ever even just like taking a drink of. Or do you unseal it?
Eddie
You said it's a collection.
Bobby Bones
Well, but it's collection as in people just put them together.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
It's not a sealed collection.
Eddie
See, if I'm gonna buy something like that and if I enjoy whiskey like as much as I do, I have to taste it. Like, I just have to.
Bobby Bones
You would taste a two million dollar collection of whiskey?
Eddie
Yeah, I would. Just to say I have a 2 million dollar and it tastes damn good.
Bobby Bones
I feel like I wouldn't enjoy it as much as I was spending because.
Kevin
Yeah, you're like, oh, it's 2 million.
Bobby Bones
Like, even if it's good, you're going, oh, I just lost some money there, dude.
Kevin
That's like when I go to a fancy restaurant, I don't feel comfortable eating it. I'm just like, if you're paying, I'm wasting so much money on this.
Bobby Bones
If you're paying, what if some. What if? Let's say. I don't know, I'm paying.
Kevin
I love it, dude.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
That's the best meal ever had. And then I go tell everyone, guys, I had the best meal ever. So I highly recommend this restaurant.
Bobby Bones
So if you're paying for it though, you don't. Oh, you know, it doesn't taste as good to you?
Kevin
No. Like, when we went to Disney one time, we ate with a beast, you know, from Beauty and the Beast. And that's.
Bobby Bones
That cost a lot.
Kevin
Well, that's what they called it eating. He went from Mr.
Eddie
Beast.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Kevin
She went from table to table. He didn't really even sit with us, but, like, it was so mad. It was like $80 a plate. And they didn't tell us this until we sat down. And it's like, when all the kids.
Bobby Bones
Are excited, what do they not tell you? The price or that the Beast was moving around the room?
Eddie
Both.
Kevin
They called it dinner with a beast. I thought the dude was gonna sit with us, passes the mashed potatoes and.
Bobby Bones
Everything, Tell fun stories of him and beauty, something.
Kevin
But there must have been, like 500 people in there.
Bobby Bones
It's a huge ballroom.
Kevin
It's like, you know, Belle's Ballroom.
Bobby Bones
And then they just stop for a second to get a picture.
Kevin
Exactly.
Bobby Bones
And move on.
Kevin
They, like, mess. They try to steal your fork with the kids and all that.
Eddie
Did your kids like it, though?
Kevin
I don't think.
Eddie
Or were they kind of like, what the heck? Where's he going?
Kevin
If you asked them, like, hey, what was your favorite thing about Disney? That would not have been come up.
Bobby Bones
How many people total at the dinner table?
Kevin
There's my whole family. Six of us.
Bobby Bones
So 6 times 8 is 48. So for the 80 bucks a plate that's just bare, that's 480 bucks. But I'm going to imagine it's like $700 when it's all done. Is that true?
Kevin
Yeah, dude.
Bobby Bones
It was so expensive, I'd imagine about 700 bucks.
Kevin
I was not happy. It ruined the rest of my day.
Bobby Bones
Because five and then taxes and then tip, and you're probably getting drinks and.
Kevin
No, it was set. Whatever. You're getting included. It was included.
Bobby Bones
$80 per chair and then tip and tags. Okay. Six. About six. 650 bucks.
Kevin
It's brutal, dude. I did not enjoy that.
Bobby Bones
Did you have the bracelet on where you're just spinning stuff?
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
You don't really know, man. That's the. That's the move for them. Because if you're spending on a bracelet, you're not actually handing money or handing a credit card. So it just feels a bit as much as, you know, you're not keeping as much track of it. Because she's on a bracelet. Yeah.
Kevin
You just scan, Kevin. You just go, beep. Pay for it.
Eddie
Really? That's dangerous.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
And then you check when the day's over or when the week's over. Yeah. And you're like, what the heck did I just do?
Bobby Bones
That beast cost me $650.
Eddie
I hate that beast.
Bobby Bones
But you knew going in, right? You just did how much it was going to cost. You just didn't know. The beast wasn't hanging with you.
Kevin
I think my wife had an idea of how much it was going to be. Yeah. Because she did all the planning and the thing was like, we were going to just do one nice dinner a day like the rest. We, you know, Amazon food and made our sandwiches or whatever.
Bobby Bones
But like you Amazon to food.
Kevin
Yeah. So like when you get to is which is. This is a great hack, David. If you're traveling with a family, you can Amazon groceries to your hotel room.
Bobby Bones
Oh, groceries, Got it.
Kevin
Yeah. So like we had ham and cheese sandwiches that we'd pack with chips or whatever and that's how we got through the whole park. But at night we wanted to do like one nice sit down dinner and that was our one of the day. Still pisses me off.
Bobby Bones
How long ago was that?
Kevin
So it was probably three years ago.
Bobby Bones
Man. There's something about a ham and cheese sandwich and chips though, when you're a little.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
So good.
Bobby Bones
I love it with mustard, dude.
Kevin
My memories, my memories are like Doritos at the beach, you know where like you get a little bit of salt water on the Dorito and. Oh yeah, it like makes it a little bit mushy.
Eddie
Start chewing on sand, you're like, I don't even care.
Kevin
I love that memory.
Bobby Bones
Mine of like bologna sandwiches, ham sandwiches with Doritos and Mountain Dew is either working maintenance at a golf course or roofing houses. And it was always. I was so tired and so hot. I just look forward to that sandwich so much because it meant I was either off the roof or not on the golf course. Weed eating. And so my association with it is break time, air condition. This is awesome.
Eddie
It's funny that it brings you there still till this day.
Bobby Bones
A really great moment of the day was going into the break room or into the truck because if I was ruining houses, we didn't have a break room. We were at a house, going into the truck with the air condition on, eating that sandwich and the mustard.
Kevin
Would all you guys eat together?
Bobby Bones
Just depends. The roof in the house is not so much. I was the only one that spoke English and I was a lot younger.
Kevin
And you're hanging out with Mexican dudes and everybody else.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, because we would go to Home Depot and I'd get the back. I was. I was with them. So I got in the back of the truck.
Kevin
Yeah, you were a worker.
Bobby Bones
Yes. And I was treated no different. And I got in the back of the truck and they jumped in the back of the truck and we did whatever. But I at least Got to get back in the truck when eating because my uncle was one of the people that would work on the site. So I would just sit in the truck and eat.
Kevin
Your uncle, your boss?
Bobby Bones
Yeah. But I was doing tear off, so, I mean, just clean up. I'd go up, tear off with a.
Eddie
Shovel, throw down all that labor.
Bobby Bones
It sucks.
Kevin
That looks like hard, hard work.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, sucked. And then at the. Doing golf course maintenance. My boss was superintendent. I never saw him. I just, you know, almost got the only job I really almost got fired at in my whole life for what we were.
Kevin
This is funny.
Bobby Bones
Drag racing green mowers. And it really wasn't my thing.
Kevin
It wasn't your idea.
Bobby Bones
It wasn't my idea. But they. They knew how to take the governors off the golf carts. And there was a strip of road because we would go out. I'm talking. The sun wasn't up yet, but is about to come up. And we had to be on the first hole, and there were three of us, and we had six holes each. And to mow greens, it was with such precision. You know, you see the lines on them. And it took a long time to even be allowed to mow greens. And so the first two hours of every day was mowing greens. And if you mowed even a little long onto the fringe, it would cut the fringe way down. I mean, it had to be so specific. So before the sun comes up, we're out there with the green mowers. We're on the green, we're ready to go. You finish and you meet the guys. Everybody kind of comes off around the same time. On this one back road behind the golf course that took us to where the superintendent's office was like the facility. And one of the guys, like, you want to race? I really didn't, but also, why not? And so we all lined them up and they went through, picked up the seat, took the governors off of them.
Kevin
You know what a governor is?
Eddie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
And we started. It's a straight stretch, too. There was nothing.
Kevin
That's a drag raising, dude.
Bobby Bones
That's why they wanted to do it.
Eddie
Yeah. That's awesome. How many were there?
Bobby Bones
Three. It was all three of us. We happened to have met at the same time.
Kevin
Did you have a girl at the.
Bobby Bones
We did not. No, no, no, no.
Eddie
Girl with a flag to start. Ready? Take your shirt off here.
Bobby Bones
And I remember, clear as day, we hit the gas and we're going, I don't know, 60, 70ft, lawnmower. And the superintendent comes around, not looking for us. Just. It's just the back road you went to get to different parts of the golf course. It is. And he sees us drag racing, and we all got screamed at. One of the guys got fired.
Kevin
No way.
Eddie
It wasn't his first time.
Kevin
Strike three for him.
Bobby Bones
Yes. He was already trouble. I think it was probably him who got us to do it anyway. But I got. I was a good worker, and I showed up on time, took pride in my work, so that's probably why I wasn't fired. But it's the closest I've ever been to being fired.
Kevin
Have you gone back to play that course?
Bobby Bones
One time we bought a house in the Hot Springs village seven years ago or so. We've sold it since then, but when you go to the village, it's part of the poa and so you have access to all the courses. They have, like, eight really amazing golf courses there. And so, yeah, I told Caitlin. I was like, I want to go play Balboa Golf course. Because I used to work on it.
Kevin
Balboa Golf course.
Bobby Bones
It was amazing when I worked on it. And then you get there. Now I'm an adult, and I've played nice courses. Yeah.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And also, it's. Times are different. A little different.
Eddie
Still nice.
Bobby Bones
But I was like, man, this thing got sucks.
Kevin
These mowers, these guys are terrible.
Bobby Bones
It was a treasure. Is a treasure.
Kevin
Then you're checking the lines around the.
Eddie
Green, takes the governor off. He's like, hey, watch this.
Kevin
Yeah, man, that's cool. I do want to go back to visit my course. When I. When I was in high school, like, the first course I would play on.
Eddie
You had a course that you'd always go to.
Kevin
Yeah, it was the municipal course, you know, and after school, we'd go and play, like, nine holes, me and my buddies. And like, I wonder. I think about it a lot. Just kind of like. I wonder what that course is like now, just to go back, because I haven't played that since I was 18 years old.
Bobby Bones
Anytime we go back to anything, though, it seems so small.
Eddie
Mm.
Bobby Bones
And not as majestic.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
When you're kids, everything's.
Eddie
It's almost better to hold that nostalgia of it. Be like, yeah, it was great. You know, Instead of going. And it's like watching an old movie, like, oh, this movie kind of sucks now.
Bobby Bones
I think I only got to play that course one time ever, because they didn't let us play the course. We were the Scrubs.
Eddie
Ever.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. No, we didn't get to play. Yeah. And they would tell you that, like.
Kevin
You'Re not allowed to play this course.
Bobby Bones
If we were maintenance crew, we didn't get to play on the course. If you were a cart kid, which meant you knew somebody or somebody was a member or you got to play the course. But we were not. There was a class system there. We were not allowed to play the course. One time I got to play the course, but also, I wasn't a very good golfer, so. And I didn't golf that much, so it really didn't matter that much. But it wasn't like I played it, and it was like, I want to go play it again. I just worked it, and then I got on it, and I was like, it kind of sucks.
Kevin
Show you guys.
Bobby Bones
Let's go. We got four games. You want to build parlay?
Kevin
Go for it, man.
Bobby Bones
Why don't you build?
Eddie
Go for it.
Kevin
I'm not gambling.
Bobby Bones
Why don't you build?
Kevin
I'm not gambling right now.
Bobby Bones
You're not? Okay.
Kevin
No.
Eddie
Nothing to do with your money, Eddie.
Kevin
I can't. I can't even get on to look at the odds, dude.
Bobby Bones
So what's it need to be?
Kevin
It's too tempting.
Eddie
Plus 375. Yep.
Kevin
Can you.
Bobby Bones
Can you pop these into DraftKings?
Eddie
Yep.
Bobby Bones
Because I don't know. I just. I suck at NFL.
Kevin
It's tough, dude. The whole year. The whole year has been like, I don't know.
Bobby Bones
Oh, I've. This is the most money I've ever lost.
Kevin
No clue anymore.
Bobby Bones
20, 25. Worst year for me.
Kevin
I saw a clip of Tony Romo trying to, like, you know, like, who do you think is going to win it? And his. He was all over the place, and everyone's like, he just said nothing. Let's kind of how you do it, dude. There's. You really can't say anything.
Bobby Bones
So Texans at Patriots. If I just take the Patriots money line. Patriots are minus three. I'm gonna take the Patriots money line. Bills at Broncos. Broncos are one and a half point favorite. I'm taking the Bills money line now. Screw it. I want the Bills and the points.
Kevin
All right. That one point.
Bobby Bones
One and a half.
Eddie
Yeah.
Kevin
One and a half.
Bobby Bones
I'm just Josh Allen in it. Josh Allen. Allen. Yeah. And then Rams money line, and they're minus three and a half. Does that put me at 375?
Eddie
336.
Kevin
Oh, no. You gotta do the fourth game.
Bobby Bones
I don't want to do the fourth game.
Kevin
Stay away from that fourth game.
Bobby Bones
Well, because I have a lot on the 49ers and they're a seven point. I don't want to.
Kevin
So you want to do an over?
Bobby Bones
Under what if you do like touchdown or something? Matthew Stafford over 200 and it's going to be cold, but Matthew Stafford over like 230 passing.
Eddie
Let's see.
Kevin
Oh, that'll definitely tip it over, but.
Bobby Bones
I can't imagine 230.
Eddie
That's got to be minus 282 for 230.
Bobby Bones
I bet that hits it, though.
Kevin
I bet it does. Right at it.
Eddie
No, that's 293.
Bobby Bones
It makes it worse.
Kevin
It went one.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, you can't make it go.
Kevin
You must have substituted one. It won't make.
Eddie
Patriots, moneyline, bills plus one and a half staffer. 230 plus.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, you took off one. Patriots.
Eddie
What did I take off? The Patriots.
Bobby Bones
Patriots money line.
Eddie
Yeah, that was on there.
Kevin
Okay. Patriots, Bills, Moneyline and Rams money line.
Bobby Bones
Rams point. There's no way it made it worse.
Eddie
By adding a bet on to it because the.
Bobby Bones
The line, if anything, it keeps it even.
Eddie
They had it. I was 270.
Kevin
No, it always helps it a little bit.
Bobby Bones
Right? But I'm saying it can.
Eddie
I'm sorry. I took the Rams Moneyline off.
Bobby Bones
No, no, no.
Eddie
Okay, okay, okay. That's what you're saying. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. So plus.
Bobby Bones
So it's four 34 bets.
Kevin
Okay, I'm gonna have to jump on this.
Bobby Bones
You're not. You can't.
Eddie
You said Rams Moneyline, right? Huh? Okay, there we go.
Kevin
All this talk is getting me excited.
Bobby Bones
It's got to be +375.
Kevin
It has to. It's. It's going to be close, but it's got to get over that number. Of all my experience of doing parlays.
Bobby Bones
You're the expert. You're the forensic parlay expert. Bring in the forensics guy.
Eddie
Okay. Yeah. Plus 454.
Kevin
There we go.
Bobby Bones
Wow, that's significant. Okay, send that one in.
Eddie
Let's go.
Bobby Bones
Got it. Felt pretty good on that one.
Eddie
Ah, I'm gonna bet that right now.
Kevin
Go ahead.
Bobby Bones
I was just gonna finish it up here. You cool if I finish this up?
Kevin
Please, please be my kitchen.
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Kevin
Y' all don't think the Bears are gonna come in the fourth quarter and win that game?
Bobby Bones
I think the Rams are just too good. It's not even about the Bears.
Kevin
The Rams offense in general.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I think the Rams are just really good. Yeah, it'd be kind of fun to see the Bears win.
Kevin
That's what I'm hoping for.
Bobby Bones
I'm not an anti Bear guy.
Kevin
No, it's really cool. When your team's not in it. Sorry, Kevin. When your team's not in it.
Eddie
Don't be sorry. I'm in it.
Kevin
Kind of fun to watch it and just be like, that'd be awesome. If the Bears won't.
Bobby Bones
So in our Little league, we're down 5,000 bucks.
Eddie
Oh, boy.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, we are like 5,100, I think something like that.
Eddie
Last I checked, it was five even, but, yeah, that's probably.
Bobby Bones
We would have lost that last game.
Eddie
Oh, yeah, that was.
Bobby Bones
So we should be at 5100. If we can win this one, we're not going to gain much.
Kevin
Are we just doing damage control?
Bobby Bones
Yes.
Eddie
Yes.
Bobby Bones
Until the last two weeks. That's when we can actually make a little money back.
Kevin
So we need them to win the whole thing. We need the Patriots.
Bobby Bones
We need the Patriots.
Kevin
Hoist the trophy.
Bobby Bones
We need the Patriots to win this week for sure. Because this is the last big week. We can lose a bunch of money. But let's say the Patriots win this game and we lose next week, we're just going to lose a couple hundred bucks and maybe 100 bucks.
Eddie
Yeah. Because there's only four teams remaining, so our chances are a lot better.
Kevin
What are your honest thoughts, Kevin?
Eddie
Honest is I'm glad we're playing the Texans and not the Bills because they don't have Josh Allen. I am definitely scared of that defense and D line because I saw what the Chargers did against us a little bit.
Bobby Bones
But every level of their defense looks good. They're really good.
Eddie
But CJ Stroud, I might regret this.
Bobby Bones
Offense did not look.
Eddie
Yeah, the defense scares the crap out of me, but I like our offense.
Bobby Bones
Excellent.
Eddie
A lot at the same time, so. And Joshua Daniels and Drake May. I think they'll do a lot better in the first half of this game.
Bobby Bones
So do you have confidence?
Eddie
I do.
Bobby Bones
Patriots.
Eddie
I do. I like our matchup.
Bobby Bones
And it's in New England. And I like it that it's in New England, which means it's cold. So I like it that the Texans are a warm weather team. Even play inside, they still like warm weather.
Kevin
Yeah, for sure.
Bobby Bones
So I think that helps.
Eddie
I like our chances. Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Bills at Broncos. That is a Saturday game. The Broncos have a really great defense as well.
Eddie
Yes.
Bobby Bones
And they have a little better offense than the Texans do.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
But the Bills have Josh Allen.
Eddie
Exactly.
Bobby Bones
And I just. Right now I'm just riding Josh Allen.
Kevin
I think this is the Bill's year. They've had so many chances and the Chiefs have stopped them and, like, this is their year to do it.
Eddie
Do you think that this is, I mean, probably the quote, unquote, worst team that he's had in the few years though, right? Allen? I'm saying, yeah, he doesn't have the.
Kevin
Weapons that he's had in the past.
Bobby Bones
But Cooks or defense?
Kevin
Brandon Cooks.
Eddie
I know their tight ends and the running back are their best players. Outside of Josh Allen, they do at.
Bobby Bones
Least have two tight ends are good.
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Eddie
And Cook is really good.
Kevin
Is that Knox and King, Kid 49ers and Seahawks.
Bobby Bones
Seahawks are the big favorite. That's the biggest line of the week. Seahawks -7. They beat the 49ers up pretty good. Week 18. Was that 18? Yeah.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
And I bet a thousand bucks on the 49ers way before the playoffs to win the Super Bowl. Right now I'm not getting a very good cash out because they're playing the Seahawks and the odds are just so Seahawk heavy. And if they can win this, though, my cash out, I think will be tremendous.
Eddie
Has to be.
Kevin
And will you consider cash now?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, we'll consider it.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I won't, but I'll consider it.
Kevin
Yeah. You'll think about it?
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
Kevin
He'll say it.
Eddie
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I'll go, should I cash out?
Eddie
We'll give him advice and be like, I ain't cashing out.
Kevin
And then I opposite every time.
Bobby Bones
I've never hit a big future.
Kevin
Never.
Bobby Bones
Not a big one. I've hit a couple futures. 100 bucks here, 100 bucks there to win, like 5, 600 bucks. But I've never hit one for over. Because I've got two NFL futures, but I've never hit one for like, over $5,000.
Eddie
Oh, me neither.
Bobby Bones
But I haven't bet that kind. I'm saying bet 500 bucks and make that kind of money. But I have. I'll tell you guys what I have here, because I do have another future that I bet, but it just wasn't as much a while ago.
Kevin
See if I can remember.
Eddie
I have 20 on the Rams to come out of the NFC that I put in August.
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah.
Eddie
Like a $200 payoff.
Kevin
So, yeah, I have one on the bills winning the whole thing.
Bobby Bones
I have one on the Bills, one in the whole thing that I bet before the playoffs. And I was going to tell you what the odds were.
Kevin
That's when I had a little bit of scratch in my account.
Bobby Bones
Nice. So I bet $750 on the bills December 22nd to win the Super Bowl. 750 bucks will pay 8,250 bell.
Kevin
Wow, dude, that'd be awesome.
Bobby Bones
And I have the 49ers at a thousand bucks. That'll pay $23,000.
Eddie
That's so much money.
Bobby Bones
The qu. Oh, man, that would be crazy.
Kevin
I want that for you, but I don't want the 49ers to win.
Eddie
Wow, that's pretty.
Kevin
But I want. I want it for you, though, if.
Bobby Bones
It could be Bills and Niners.
Eddie
Oh.
Kevin
Oh, yeah.
Eddie
You're good.
Bobby Bones
I don't even know what I.
Eddie
Then you're going to the Super Bowl.
Bobby Bones
I don't know.
Kevin
What would you do there? You just ride it out because you.
Bobby Bones
Two winning team, probably you could cash them both out and catch that middle.
Kevin
Would that go navy?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, because you. Depending on the odds, too, you're looking at making 12,000 bucks from the 49ers for cashing out and for 4,500. So 15, $16,000, which is about half of what the whole thing would be anyway.
Eddie
And then you can bet on the super bowl with some of that money. Make that last eight grand.
Kevin
But you've already bet on the Super Bowl. Like, you have two bets on the super bowl, right?
Bobby Bones
Yeah, but that's.
Kevin
And one of them is going to win.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, but there's a difference. Let's say you take in 16,000. And you bet 2,000. Dude. Yeah, that's still winning 14,000 here. If I win 8,000, that's $6,000 less.
Eddie
And then you bet 2,000, win another 10 grand. Before you know it, you're at 30 grand.
Bobby Bones
Then do you take the 30 grand roulette?
Kevin
Well, and then. Oh, dude, I was with you last year, Bowl. You were not a delight to be around.
Bobby Bones
Did I lose a lot?
Kevin
Yeah.
Bobby Bones
I didn't complain about It. After.
Eddie
You didn't.
Kevin
You're just quiet.
Bobby Bones
No, I was just like.
Kevin
And I know. I know what the quiet means.
Bobby Bones
I was like, yeah, that sucks. Well, you were, like, complaining about it. It was annoying.
Kevin
About what?
Bobby Bones
Losing money?
Kevin
Yeah. That was stupid.
Bobby Bones
It was like, dude, I got you free super bowl tickets.
Eddie
That was stupid, man.
Kevin
You were like, sign. Then you're just like, I'm gonna go look for merch.
Bobby Bones
Then you had to go buy some.
Kevin
Walking around. Just enjoy. Let's enjoy the super bowl this year, guys.
Bobby Bones
You were the worst.
Kevin
I was not the worst.
Bobby Bones
You were complaining way after the game, like, oh, my God, I can't believe I lost. And I'm just like, you know what? It's fine. We're in the Super Bowl. That's cool.
Kevin
You didn't hear me with a minor.
Bobby Bones
But the game wasn't over by then.
Kevin
I still thought that was a chance.
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Right now, the Seahawks are the favorite to win the Super bowl, plus 270. The Rams second at plus 300. And 22 NFC teams. The Patriots third, plus 600.
Eddie
Oh, wow.
Bobby Bones
Then Buffalo, then Denver, then Houston. All kind of close. But then you have two teams that aren't at all. The Bears at plus 1600. There may be a little something there, you know, drop a little something on that couple grand, and right now the 49ers are at plus 2000.
Kevin
Yeah.
Eddie
Yeah. That's tough for them.
Kevin
Yeah, it's going to be hard.
Bobby Bones
I think if they can win this game, it gets a lot easier.
Eddie
And I. I know that they just got beat down. It was only 13 3, but Seahawks manhandled them a few weeks ago, but, man, they know each other. And you never know with those divisional games.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, no, Kittle, I know.
Kevin
It's gonna be tough.
Bobby Bones
It'll be tough. All right, that's it, boys.
Kevin
We got the national championship this week.
Bobby Bones
Monday.
Eddie
Monday, we'll be back on.
Kevin
Before that, I was just thinking about it. Cause, I mean, you forget.
Bobby Bones
Drop a little scratch.
Kevin
Do that, maybe. Scratching that account. That's exciting.
Bobby Bones
I've kind of retired from putting more money in right now. I've had a bad season. And I think when you start to feel not good about it, you have to stop for a bit. I'm stopping right now.
Kevin
Yeah, good.
Bobby Bones
Until the day of the game, and then I kind of hop back in just a little bit.
Eddie
Live betting, maybe.
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I just kind of feel it out, you know? You know, I just put my hand. Just gotta feel.
Kevin
What the.
Bobby Bones
All right, thank you, guys. We will be back Monday, so we'll talk about that then. And hopefully we have great news. I'm just glad there's no Monday night game of the NFL. Like, we can already, like, feel who's.
Kevin
Going to be with that.
Eddie
Yeah, yeah.
Bobby Bones
Obviously there's the college game, but that's it. Thank you, guys. Have a great rest of the day and we'll see you early next week. Eddie, thank you. Bye, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on Socials at BrandonRay Music. You can follow the show on Instagram @BobbyBoneSports. Thanks to our crew, co host producereddy, segment producer Ickoffkevin and executive producer ikeastrove. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
The Bobby Bones Show — 25W: Game Fixing Scandals, Wild Sports Experiences & Athlete Stories Air date: January 15, 2026
In this episode, Bobby Bones, Eddie, Kevin, and Mike talk betting scandals in basketball, weird sports fan moments (including their odd experience at a Spurs game), sharing their best “athlete-in-person” moments, and trade personal stories ranging from losing money at Disney World to almost getting fired for drag racing lawn mowers on a golf course. The conversation flows with a familiar, humorous vibe, mixing sports analysis, behind-the-scenes stories, and playful banter.
On Betting Shady Games:
“I like to bet because I feel like they’re not controlled because no one’s watching them. Who cares? Just play a real game.”
— Kevin ([04:11])
On Reality of Upscale Dining:
“That beast cost me $650. I hate that beast.”
— Eddie ([33:39])
On Near Firing at the Golf Course:
“We started. It’s a straight stretch, too… And he sees us drag racing, and we all got screamed at. One of the guys got fired.”
— Bobby ([37:55])
On Sports Nostalgia:
“Anytime we go back to anything, though, it seems so small and not as majestic.”
— Bobby ([39:36])
On Gambling Losses:
“Oh, I’ve… this is the most money I’ve ever lost. 20, 25. Worst year for me.”
— Bobby ([41:08])
Tone: Light-hearted, self-deprecating, with witty banter and the usual camaraderie among sports-obsessed friends. Their playful teasing and real-life stories make this episode both entertaining and relatable—even for listeners who didn’t catch the show live.