25W: Bobby Inches Closer to One of His White Whales + Will Jimbo Fisher Return to Coaching? With Brandon Marcello + The Rules of Grown Men Wearing Jerseys

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show: 25 Whistles

Episode: Bobby Inches Closer to One of His White Whales + Will Jimbo Fisher Return to Coaching? With Brandon Marcello + The Rules of Grown Men Wearing Jerseys
Date: October 23, 2025
Host: Bobby Bones (with Eddie, Kevin, Mike, Brandon, and guest Brandon Marcello)

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Bobby Bones Show: 25 Whistles" is a lively, freewheeling exploration of football talk, coaching rumors, sports culture, and personal stories. Bobby shares an update in his ongoing quest to land his "white whale" interviews, discusses the potential return of coach Jimbo Fisher with national college football reporter Brandon Marcello, and—much to the humor and chagrin of the crew—lays down rules for grown men wearing sports jerseys. The hosts make their picks for this week’s college football "triangle of death" parlay, banter about Dancing with the Stars, and debate the etiquette of autographs and sports betting lingo.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cowboys, Raiders, and NFL Talk

(03:32–10:14)

• Eddie brings a clip of Stephen A. Smith shockingly praising the Cowboys, making playoffs predictions and naming Dak Prescott as an MVP contender.
• The team analyzes the Cowboys' strengths ("your offense is really fun" – Bobby) and weaknesses ("your defense is... pretty bad" – Bobby, 04:28), their chances against remaining opponents, and speculation about the possible acquisition of Max Crosby.
• Lively banter on the Raiders’ shifting culture post-Vegas relocation, Geno Smith’s ceiling, and the identity dilemma for both teams.

Notable quote:
“Your offense is really fun ... and your defense is terrible. No, terrible.”
— Bobby Bones (04:27)

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2. Bobby’s “White Whale” Interviews & Fantasy Camps

(10:14–14:12)

• Bobby updates the show on his efforts to book Mark Grace, David Letterman, and Sting (the wrestler), his elusive "white whales."
• He recounts appearing on a Texas Longhorns podcast, insisting he’s not a "Longhorn fan," and how Grace at a fantasy baseball camp gives him hope.
• Brief, comical digression on the term "color guy" in sports broadcasting.

Notable quote:
“There’s three people that are on my white whale list that I haven’t got. It’s Mark Grace, David Letterman, and Sting the wrestler.”
— Bobby Bones (11:26)

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3. Rooting for Kansas & The Sunflower Showdown

(14:12–17:32)

• The crew roots for Kansas to break its losing streak against Kansas State (“Kansas has not beat Kansas State in football since 2008.” – Bobby, 16:40).
• Spirited debate on school allegiances and musings about attending a game, complete with playful banter about the evolution of the rivalry’s name, poking fun at “woke” culture’s supposed influence.

Memorable moment:
The team jests about escalatingly inappropriate former names for the "Sunflower Showdown," ending on a line they agree is "too far."
— (16:47–18:20)

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4. Daily Life, Weather, and Popcorn Science

(18:23–21:19)

• Bobby shares a viral slow-motion popcorn kernel video from his wife, leading to jokes about "middle finger" kernels and dietary hardships.
• Weather report for Fayetteville impacts game attendance; Bobby laments his lack of options due to lactose intolerance (“I don’t know how you live that life … that’s tough, dude.” – Eddie, 21:04).

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5. Sports Betting: DraftKings, Parlays, and Ghost Tokens

(21:43–26:01, 34:48–36:38, 66:57–71:51)

• The group discusses recent betting wins and clarifies "King of the End Zone," "ghost tokens," and the concept of parlays and round robins for newer players.
• Live picks:
  • Kevin: Texas A&M -2.5 at LSU
  • Eddie: Virginia -10.5 against North Carolina
  • Bobby: Ole Miss +5.5 at Oklahoma

Notable quote:
“I never play that in time. I’m not even sure what that is. You guys always talk about it because Brandon’s also won that.”
— Bobby Bones (22:04)

Teaching moment: Mike explains how a round robin bet works (70:14):
“The round robin is, you're betting on all the games individually as well. ... So it's going to cost more.”

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6. NBA, Dancing With the Stars, and Pop Culture Tangents

(24:10–34:25)

• Bobby and his wife watch Thunder vs. Rockets and Dancing with the Stars in parallel. He roots for Emma Slater and Andy Richter, noting Andy’s struggles after illness.
• Discussion covers show strategies, partner dynamics, viewer misperceptions of romantic entanglements, and Bobby’s experience on DWTS.
• Hilarious comparison between dance intimacy and sports locker room culture:
  “Dance is kind of like that. You’re naked in the shower together, you’re touching butts.”
  — Bobby Bones (33:33)

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7. Interview: College Football Landscape with Brandon Marcello

(40:17–63:20)

• Brandon predicts "over 30" FBS jobs opening in the college football offseason ("...we're going to see 30 plus jobs come open..." – Brandon Marcello, 40:41).
• Jimbo Fisher’s future:
  • Brandon surmises Fisher still expects a high-level job, but age and pride could limit options, possibly seeing him as a "stop gap" at a mid-level program.
  • Bobby is amazed Jimbo's "only 60" (43:01).
  • Creative salary structuring is discussed due to Fisher's massive Texas A&M buyout (Brandon: “There’s no mitigation in the contract. He gets it all no matter what,” 47:19).
• Florida’s coach search: Lane Kiffin as favorite, with Eli Drinkwitz and James Franklin potential contenders.
• Arkansas’s coaching situation:
  • Unlikely Bobby Petrino is the long-term answer unless major upsets happen.
  • Arkansas must spend and win now to avoid being left out of the "super league" if college football restructures (Brandon, 54:25–57:17).
• Insightful commentary on Big 12 coaches and the practicalities of loyalty vs. opportunity—Clark Lee at Vanderbilt is highlighted as a case study.

Notable quote:
“If you want to be part of [the eventual super league], then you need to spend the money now and act like it.”
— Brandon Marcello (57:17)

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8. Grown Men Wearing Jerseys: The Rules

(64:10–66:08)

• Bobby’s rule: If you're going to wear a jersey, it should be of a player older than you.
  • At games: Only wear legends’ jerseys (e.g., Roger Staubach, Emmitt Smith if you’re a Cowboys fan).
  • At home: Do whatever you want.
• Story about adult fans at a Randy Johnson signing wearing Mariners gear of their own age demographic, which Bobby finds awkward.

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9. Randy Johnson’s Autograph Policy

(66:08–66:39)

• Clip: Randy Johnson explains he rarely signs jerseys to keep their value high for charity auctions, not as collector’s items.
  “It’s the one thing that I don’t sign because it’s the one thing that can raise money for charities... there’s not a lot of them floating out there.”
  — Randy Johnson via Brandon Marcello (66:08)

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10. Closing Banter & League Betting Update

(71:52–75:13)

• The group shares the (often disastrous) betting standings among their friends.
• Recap of NFL and NCAA games to watch this weekend, and hopes of "taking the family on vacation" if they can string together more wins.

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Notable Quotes

• “That’s how. Like that you know everything. You can’t eat.”
  — Eddie, reacting to Bobby’s dietary restrictions (21:04)
• “If people don’t like you, you have no chance. Just in general.”
  — Bobby Bones on the real measure of Dancing with the Stars (25:52)
• “Do people still think you’re sleeping with your partner?”
  — Kevin on the recurring rumors about dance show contestants (32:24)
• “I did want to talk about the Randy Johnson thing, which I thought was really cool ... My rule, if you wear a jersey, it needs to be somebody older than you.”
  — Bobby Bones (64:10)
• “I think every week I’m like, Belichick’s got to get better. Like, this team's got ... I’m not falling for it anymore.”
  — Eddie on his betting struggles (35:40)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:32] – “Eddie’s Cowboys Minute” & NFL team breakdowns
• [10:14] – Bobby’s podcast guesting and “white whale” interview stories
• [14:12] – Kansas-Kansas State Sunflower Showdown history & jokes
• [21:43] – DraftKings bets, “ghost tokens,” betting mechanics
• [24:10] – NBA & Dancing with the Stars, Bobby’s reality TV anecdotes
• [40:17] – Interview: Brandon Marcello on Jimbo Fisher, coaching dominoes
• [54:25] – Conference realignment, “super league,” and Arkansas’s need to spend
• [64:10] – The jersey wearing debate
• [66:08] – Randy Johnson on signing memorabilia
• [70:14] – Sports betting terminology (round robin vs. parlay)
• [75:37] – Oklahoma’s brutal schedule run-down

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Memorable Moments

• Prolonged, cheeky debate about the evolution of the “Sunflower Showdown” and its inappropriate former names (16:47–18:20)
• Bobby’s "dietary misery" compared to Gandhi and Nelson Mandela by Eddie, leading to much laughter and friendly correction (21:16–21:41)
• The entire crew trying to properly phrase their betting picks, learning the lingo in real time (66:57–71:51)
• Bobby’s breakdown of jersey-wearing etiquette for middle-aged sports fans (64:10–66:08)

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This summary captures the fast-paced, funny, and informative sports culture discussions of this episode, blending hot takes, personal anecdotes, expert insight, and sheer group chemistry—for both sports die-hards and casual listeners.

Transcript

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Eddie]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

This is a podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking Football. And they all wear a whistle. Yeah, it's stupid, but what did you expect? It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles. Oh, hit it, Eddie. I do want to start this with a clip that Eddie has presented to the show about the Dallas Cowboys. Usually on Mondays when we do our favorite team talk.

[Eddie]

I know, but this is a big deal.

[Bobby Bones]

All right? Stephen A. Smith's talking about the Cowboys, and he's talking about them in a good way.

[Eddie]

And he hates the Cowboys. Hates the Cowboys.

[Bobby Bones]

Here we go.

[Eddie]

Dallas Cowboys going to the playoffs.

[Bobby Bones]

There you go. Dallas Cowboys going to the playoffs. Dak Prescott, mvp, gonna be a top.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Two candidate for MVP honors.

[Eddie]

I mean, what does this mean?

[Mike]

Why does he gotta do that?

[Eddie]

Is he jinxing us? Is he being more of a jerk by saying this or does he really mean it?

[Bobby Bones]

Your offense is really fun.

[Eddie]

They're awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

And your defense is terrible. No, terrible.

[Mike]

There's some knuckleheads.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm not even gonna say they're pretty bad. That's what I'm gonna say. Yeah, they're pretty bad. Defense is pretty bad.

[Eddie]

Yeah, I mean, we had some good plays. The secondary is decent. But, man, that's just the run game. We can't stop that run game.

[Bobby Bones]

I would say the Bengals defense was worse whenever Joe Burrow was in there, having to score 40, 50 points, but just barely. Yeah, but I think, yeah, I think you guys are fun to watch. I don't know how many games. I don't know if we can make the playoffs. I mean, now, but look at your division. So the Giants are not good. No, they're exciting. The Giants are exciting to watch because of Jackson Dart and Scatter Boo. So that's. They're a fun team to watch. They're going to win some games. Jane Daniels out this Monday. I saw that for sure. And they've been losing a bit. The Eagles are really good.

[Eddie]

They're really good. But, you know, we almost beat them.

[Bobby Bones]

No, but you can't really close with them. You're not going to win the division, is my point.

[Eddie]

Probably not going to win the division.

[Bobby Bones]

So it doesn't matter. You versus the Eagles, because I don't think you're winning that division. So you're going to need to win 10 games. Yeah. I mean, 10 probably. I mean, you can luck in and go nine and eight.

[Eddie]

That could be tough. I mean, we have the Broncos coming up this week.

[Bobby Bones]

I think you can win that.

[Eddie]

I think so, too. And then I think we have the jets, which you should win. That should win that. Cardinal, Cardinals. What's after that, Mike?

[Bobby Bones]

Raiders.

[Eddie]

Did I just make up the jets and the Chiefs?

[Bobby Bones]

I think you just want the Jets.

[Kevin]

Same thing.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Broncos are three and a half point favorite. You are playing in Denver.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

If you can just win a game like that, that stupid Panthers game is going to bite you in the butt.

[Eddie]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Dumb Panthers game, man.

[Bobby Bones]

But I would like so if they trade for Max Crosby. You heard that, right?

[Eddie]

Yes, but I didn't put anything behind that. I just.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't think that there's smoke billowing out, but I do think that if you look close enough, there are traces of smoke. Dude, he is crazy.

[Mike]

Is he still hurt or.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Don't know the answer to that.

[Eddie]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

Isn't he always kind of hurt?

[Mike]

Yeah, he hurts people.

[Eddie]

He does hurt people. We saw him@the NFL honors.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you remember seeing him? No. You can look it up and help me. I didn't even know Jane Daniels was for sure out for Monday night. But he is right.

[Kevin]

He's officially.

[Eddie]

I know that because of fantasy.

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Eddie]

Had to make a power move.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I have Max Crosby on my fantasy team. He never scores me any points, which is what sucks. Weird.

[Eddie]

No, you have the kicker, Crosby.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, oh, I have both Mason and Max. We don't even have kickers in our league. I.

[Eddie]

What about that? What about the Dak.

[Bobby Bones]

But he's just not going to win. Max Crosby is just not going to win with the Raiders. He's not going to win this year, he's not going to win next year. He can just be a Raider. Like, he fits with what we've been told is Raiders culture. Because we haven't really seen true Raiders culture except for like, or even in California, because they kind of sucked there too, for a while since, like the 90s. When they won the Super Bowl.

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[Kevin]

The Tuck rule basically put them out 25 years ago.

[Bobby Bones]

And it's not. It's even like the Raiders, they got crazy fans with masks and stuff now. It's just like a parody of what.

[Eddie]

But I know there's an identity crisis, though, when they moved to Vegas, because, like, that there were. You know, when they were in California, they did have the guys with the shoulder pads and the face mask.

[Bobby Bones]

They tried.

[Eddie]

And now it's just kind of dude like you guys. You guys are different.

[Bobby Bones]

It's somebody who won a set of shoulder pads at the wind.

[Eddie]

Right. Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Again. Max Crosby would be really cool.

[Eddie]

That would be awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

You trade all your picks you just.

[Kevin]

Got from Michael Parsons for Max Crosby.

[Eddie]

Oh, I don't know. I mean, what I like about.

[Bobby Bones]

You do know. You want Max Crosby.

[Eddie]

We do want Max Crosby. But those picks, man, like, that's future Max Crosby, can he stay healthy? Who knows? Right?

[Bobby Bones]

How can the picks. Will the picks pan out? Who knows?

[Eddie]

Yeah. You don't know anything. I know.

[Bobby Bones]

What's the deal with Max Crosby?

[Mike]

All right, so Raiders have a bye week.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Mike]

And he will play next week against the Jags.

[Bobby Bones]

He will play nobody this week.

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Eddie]

Right?

[Bobby Bones]

Yep.

[Mike]

And the Raiders say they're not interested in trading him.

[Bobby Bones]

Of course you say that.

[Mike]

Until you trade that, you got to get. You got to grease the wheels.

[Eddie]

I did think that.

[Bobby Bones]

So there's Eddie's cowboy minute to start this pretty good. But are you going on? Are you. We have to hear more of this now, or.

[Eddie]

No, no, I just. I want to talk about the Raiders a little bit. I did think that Pete Carroll would probably would do a little better with the Raiders than what he's doing.

[Bobby Bones]

If I may.

[Eddie]

Go ahead.

[Bobby Bones]

I think you. It's hard to polish a turd. I mean, I think when your quarterback is Geno Smith, and I think his ceiling has been achieved. I think he hit it. He's been there, he lived.

[Kevin]

It's come back down.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And then Brock Bowers gets injured. Like your best players hurt. I think he's doing with what he has, kind of what would be done by pretty much anybody.

[Kevin]

You think they're regretting drafting Genti now so high just because they were like, oh, this could be a game changer, make the Raiders.

[Bobby Bones]

I think it's too early to regret. I think if you ask that, not even next season, but year three, you could probably.

[Kevin]

They just need so much.

[Bobby Bones]

That's exactly it. So I don't think there's a single person they could have drafted. Yeah, that would have changed it for them. But Genti, he's awesome, but sometimes he's not. But it's not his fault. And awesome because they're on him. They freaking hand him the ball. Yeah, he's got nowhere to go.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

You can't blame him for that.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So. All right, that's enough Raiders talk. We have too much Raiders, too much Cowboys. Just enough Cowboys and too much Raiders. So I guessed it on a podcast yesterday, and it's a new podcast.

[Eddie]

You cheated on us.

[Bobby Bones]

I did not. I guessed it.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Promoted this podcast on it. It's called Zeke and Zonk. And so Zeke is Greg Swindell. He used to pitch in the major leagues for a long time. Pitch of Texas is now ESPN play by play guy. And Keith Moreland, who played Major League baseball forever and is the Texas Longhorn. He's. He did all the broadcast stuff there. And so they've started a podcast, and I went on first, and I'm like, I'm not a Longhorn fan. I need everybody to know that. Like, that's the first part. Like, I'm not coming on to your little Longhorn podcast.

[Kevin]

And.

[Bobby Bones]

But so I was talking with them, and Greg played with Grace when they. Mark Grace when they won the World Series. Oh, wow. In Arizona. And so he was going to baseball fantasy camp this weekend. Greg was, and Grace is going to be there. And I was like, dude, I've been trying to get Grace on forever. Like, what up? Like, tell him. And I'm like, he probably knows because I've tried, like, 72 different avenues and I keep getting nothing back. So I'm probably like the little psycho stalker.

[Eddie]

I'm not doing it.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. It's like everybody's come to me in every way. I'm not talking to this guy. And I don't even know what I would talk about at this point. It's just been something I haven't been able to do. Like my White well.

[Eddie]

And he's your. He's your favorite?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. There's three people that are on my white well list that I haven't got. It's Mark Grace, David Letterman, and Sting the Wrestler.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Not the singer.

[Bobby Bones]

Not the singer. Oh, right.

[Kevin]

Thanks for clarifying, Eddie.

[Eddie]

Yes. Just in case you're wondering.

[Bobby Bones]

So I was thinking, though, after we had this conversation about going to a fantasy baseball camp. That sounds awesome.

[Kevin]

Now, what does that mean exactly? Like, did he. Did he tell you?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, we didn't talk about the camp, like, at length or anything, but what I think you do is. I think you go and you, like, catch balls. You.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what I call. Because I did a basketball camp for Coach Cal, and it was two days. And so what you do is they put you through drills at first, you, like, learn. They teach you some stuff, and then they draft teams and you play a tournament, and you got real coaches, and it's that kind of thing.

[Eddie]

That's pretty cool.

[Bobby Bones]

I think for baseball, that'd be way up my alley. More than basketball. That sound. What I took away from it is I got to find a baseball fantasy camp to go to.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Wouldn't that be so cool? Yeah.

[Eddie]

Is it too late to join this one?

[Bobby Bones]

Probably, because I don't think I have the time to get over there right now. But exciting.

[Eddie]

And it's in. It's in Arizona.

[Bobby Bones]

That one is. I think it's a Diamondback fantasy camp.

[Kevin]

Oh, that explains the Mark Grace thing, right? Because he said he's a he.

[Bobby Bones]

Mark Grace is also, like, the color. Yeah. He's not. Not. I want everybody to understand I'm talking about race here. Oh, boy.

[Eddie]

It's broadcast terms.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. Once I said Frank Thomas is my favorite color guy, and. Holy crap.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

I didn't say because he was a color.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. Brandon, you ever heard that story?

[Brandon Marcelo]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

That's so funny. I said I love Frank Thomas. I said I love Frank Thomas as a color guy. And what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I never thought about it. And so I want everybody to know when I say color guy, there is the play by play, and there's a person who adds what they call color, which is everything around it. Perspective.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Understanding Troy Aikman. Teaching. Yeah.

[Kevin]

Bonnie Romo.

[Bobby Bones]

And it just so happened that Frank Thomas is a black guy.

[Kevin]

Oh, man.

[Bobby Bones]

And so when I said Frank Thomas, I said, gotta be good. I think I said he was. He's a great color guy. And then.

[Eddie]

That's so dumb.

[Kevin]

And then just moved on and did the rest of the show.

[Bobby Bones]

And, well, everybody was like, yep, we agree.

[Mike]

And all the other articles come out.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Bobby Bones.

[Eddie]

He's my favorite, too.

[Bobby Bones]

So I think Mark Grace is the Arizona dime.

[Kevin]

Commentator.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that was a time.

[Eddie]

And at the time, you know, like, you. You worry about it, because now we can laugh about that. But at the time, you're like, well, I don't want anyone to think the wrong thing.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't think anything. I thought nothing.

[Eddie]

So dumb.

[Kevin]

And if you watch sports long enough, you.

[Eddie]

You would know, you know?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

But if you don't, then I would.

[Bobby Bones]

Never say I'm not even going to say back what I would never say.

[Mike]

Yeah, so we get it.

[Bobby Bones]

There's that. By the way, we are rooting. We're rooting big time for Kansas over Kansas State this weekend.

[Eddie]

Big time. Well.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Oh, we are.

[Bobby Bones]

We are.

[Eddie]

Why are we doing that again?

[Bobby Bones]

What do you mean?

[Eddie]

Why are we reading?

[Bobby Bones]

Why would you. But why would you not?

[Eddie]

Dude, we've been to both schools. Well, we haven't been to Kansas.

[Bobby Bones]

Kansas football. But we had. Coach Lapel's been on the show.

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah, but we've been to Kansas State.

[Bobby Bones]

We have.

[Eddie]

They hosted us very kindly there.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, they were very kind.

[Kevin]

Still one of the best.

[Eddie]

Cooper BB Was cool with us there.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, well, then you guys go do whatever you want.

[Kevin]

Well, we don't have. You don't have a helmet, though. We do have a Kansas helmet.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't have a Kansas State helmet. And I'm friends with Coach.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

At Kansas. And I think they've lost, like, because I think he's been there a few years now and has taken that program to be like a respectable program, which Kansas football. It's not that it wasn't respected. It wasn't even thought of.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Because that's a basketball school and I think they have lost like so many in a row to Kansas State in that. Because Kansas State's a football school.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And so we're rooting for Kansas because they haven't won it in, like six years. I don't know. Somebody may look that up.

[Eddie]

I can jump on that. I'll jump on it, buddy. Hey, dude, that way you're not alone. I don't want you to feel alone.

[Kevin]

Wait, are you jumping on, like, let's go Kansas.

[Bobby Bones]

We're rooting for Kansas because if they win, we. Here's the thing. If they win or if they win, you know, they got some games coming. We may go up there.

[Eddie]

Oh, that'd be cool.

[Bobby Bones]

That'd be cool.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, we can go up there whenever we want. But I'm saying we could probably go. Even go for like a game down. You know what I mean?

[Kevin]

Yes, I know exactly.

[Bobby Bones]

We want our friends to win.

[Eddie]

Will they dress us up, though?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, can we during the game?

[Eddie]

That. Oh, how freaking cool would that be? We dress during the game.

[Bobby Bones]

We sneak in a game again, stand on the sideline. No, no. We go in.

[Eddie]

Accidentally, sit down.

[Bobby Bones]

I get in Trouble, get up. 12 men on the field. Or the 12th man accidentally. Anyway, I'm rooting for Kansas. I think they're a two point favorite. But they haven't won in a while.

[Mike]

So it's been 203 days since what? Kansas has beat Kansas State.

[Bobby Bones]

No, that can't be true. In football. That can't be true. I'm seeing since 2008. Yeah, that's more 200.

[Mike]

Oh, that's what I meant. Yeah. 2,000 days.

[Kevin]

They haven't played in 360, but it's been over 200.

[Bobby Bones]

So you guys have totally confused what I think. Mike, what did you say? I see. 2008 was the last time they beat him. So Kansas has not beat Kansas State in football since 2008.

[Eddie]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

We're a pro. Kansas show this week.

[Eddie]

And you're right, Kansas is favored by three points.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, we're back.

[Mike]

Sunflower showdown.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah, man. Don't get enough of that. It used to be called the Sunflower Shootout. Till Woke got it right. Way to go.

[Eddie]

Every time.

[Bobby Bones]

Till woke got it and killed. The Sunflower Shootout. How we remember it?

[Eddie]

It was so cool, too. You shot all the sunflowers.

[Bobby Bones]

It used to be called the Sunflower Gang Bang before that. Oh, man.

[Mike]

Why would you change that?

[Bobby Bones]

And then all of a sudden, it's like. You can't call it that. Woke wins again.

[Mike]

You guys down for the Sunflower King?

[Bobby Bones]

Babe, we can't. We've been going to this for 20 years. Yeah, we haven't, honey. We got our tickets.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It's a tradition.

[Bobby Bones]

We got our Sunflower Gang bang.

[Kevin]

All the friends are going, dang.

[Bobby Bones]

I got a worse one. Ain't going to do it.

[Eddie]

Ended on gang bang. Y. We're going to end on gang bang.

[Kevin]

Prob be a good call.

[Eddie]

Hey, let me.

[Bobby Bones]

Let me text you what the worst.

[Brandon Marcelo]

One would have been, Eddie.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, go ahead and you tell me by. Okay, Here we go. Let's just say I would have said this.

[Eddie]

Oh, d. You can't say that. You can't say that.

[Bobby Bones]

It's just worse. Way worse. It's just worse.

[Eddie]

That's funny, though. Kevin, you want to see it?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. It's just worse. It's Sunflower Shootout. Sunflower Gang bangs.

[Kevin]

See a picture of you and Bobby. Are you.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

You can't call it that. Yeah, that's one joke. That's too far. Too far. That's too far.

[Eddie]

We didn't go there.

[Kevin]

We didn't come back after that one.

[Bobby Bones]

That's right. That's too far.

[Eddie]

What's this other thing that. Oh, you sent me that tick tock of the colonel popping.

[Bobby Bones]

So have you guys seen it? Dude, what Let them see it. This colonel. How a colonel pops its popcorn. Just watch it as it.

[Eddie]

It's really cool.

[Bobby Bones]

It's really cool. How like it's slow motion of a colonel. Oh, my God. I said, Eddie, this. And we can put it up in a video with it because it's like. It's like. Watch the growth of a kernel of popcorn as it comes up fully fruit. And then as it's popping, all of a sudden the colonel looks a middle finger right at you.

[Eddie]

You know what's funny is when I opened that up, it said that your wife had sent that to me already. Like on the bottom it said your wife, like, Caitlin sent that to you.

[Bobby Bones]

She sent it to me so. And I sent it to you, but she also sent it to you.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Oh, that's.

[Bobby Bones]

My wife doesn't send a lot, but when she does, she doesn't miss. Yeah, she doesn't miss. Hey, Mike. Yep. Well, we've been. We've done this like four episodes in a row. Can you know the weather in Fayetteville, Arkansas for Saturday? Earlier, there's a.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Here we go.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, pull up the official forecast. I'd like to hear the official forecast. Debating going. Who did they play? Auburn.

[Eddie]

What's the percentage at right now of you going solid? 50.

[Bobby Bones]

50.

[Eddie]

Right. Just right down the middle.

[Bobby Bones]

Right down the middle.

[Mike]

Dude, it's going to be Hugh. Freezing out there, right?

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

59 degrees, 89 chance of rain. 89. But thunderstorms or just rain? It says just rain a quarter of an inch. No.

[Eddie]

Did you. Oh, a quarter of an inch.

[Bobby Bones]

Or as we. As we call it an eddy.

[Eddie]

Oh, that's not funny. It's not accurate. It's not funny.

[Brandon Marcelo]

How much?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, during the day, what's the rain chances? 60. How much? Well, about an eddy. Well, Mike, no. Yeah, and then it raining at night, too, so all day.

[Eddie]

But a quarter inch. Let's be serious for a second. Quarter inch is. Means it's probably going to just drizzle all day.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that what it means?

[Eddie]

Yeah. Because a quarter inch is not that much.

[Bobby Bones]

You would know. It also says local heavy rainfall possible.

[Eddie]

Well, there you go. You could have one of those moments where it gets heavy.

[Bobby Bones]

I'll ask my wife if she wants to go, I'll go.

[Eddie]

You're gonna poncho it up? No.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, do we have to do this? Do we have to do this?

[Eddie]

What are you going to do? Oh, umbrella.

[Bobby Bones]

Do we have to do this?

[Eddie]

Umbrella with Arkansas logo on it.

[Bobby Bones]

Do we need to do this?

[Mike]

We know.

[Kevin]

What are we doing?

[Bobby Bones]

Kevin, I'll be in a luxury suite.

[Kevin]

Oh, God.

[Eddie]

A roof over his head. Dude, I need a poncho.

[Bobby Bones]

Food on the table.

[Eddie]

Oh, good food.

[Bobby Bones]

Except it's usually nachos. And a really good nachos. But I can't eat cheese.

[Kevin]

Oh, dang.

[Eddie]

Just chips, dude. Can you have popcorn? No, probably not. Because it has butter all over it.

[Bobby Bones]

Butter. Even if it's not butter that you pour on it, it's usually made and popped with a butter. And they all have middle finger. Good point.

[Eddie]

I'll be honest with you, dude. I don't know how you live that life. Like, I know you have to, but that's how. That's tough, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

That's how.

[Eddie]

Like that you know everything. You can't eat.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Like.

[Eddie]

That's my diet.

[Bobby Bones]

It was my diet.

[Eddie]

Ice cream, cereal, popcorn.

[Bobby Bones]

You just find ways. Cheeseburgers sucks, man. People. Some people have had some hard times, and I could. I could. We could start Nelson Mandela.

[Eddie]

Oh, he hunger strike, right?

[Bobby Bones]

No, that's gone. That's gone. Nelson Mandela went to prison.

[Eddie]

No, it is a tough time, too.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. The comparison was. Minds are not hard. And there's. They lived it really hard. But then you totally confused Gandhi and Nelson Mandela.

[Eddie]

I'm an idiot.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. You did win $220 in bonus bets, though. That's crazy. On DraftKings.

[Eddie]

King of the end zone, baby.

[Mike]

Who's your guy?

[Eddie]

Jameer Gibbs.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Come on.

[Eddie]

And so you split like, I don't know, a couple million dollars or something with everyone that picks a winning someone that scored a touchdown. And my cut was 220 bucks. And dude, I feel bad for DraftKings because I've already made. I've turned half of that into real money already.

[Bobby Bones]

So answer me this, because I never play that in time. I'm not even sure what that is. You guys always talk about it because Brandon's also won that.

[Mike]

We won it the same week, like three weeks ago, I think.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so what is it?

[Eddie]

So you pick a player to score a touchdown and you bet on him, like, $5.

[Brandon Marcelo]

What?

[Eddie]

I did Jameer Gibbs. Gibbs.

[Mike]

The longest.

[Eddie]

No, mine was any touchdown.

[Bobby Bones]

No, but King of the touchdown, I think, is the longest.

[Mike]

King of the end zone is the longest run.

[Bobby Bones]

You don't even know how you won. Eddie's like, somebody who plays poker and wins, and you're like, what the crap?

[Eddie]

So you're telling me Jameer Gibbs was. Because he did have that long touchdown.

[Bobby Bones]

That's how you won.

[Eddie]

Dude, I just thought I picked Jameer Gibbs and I won. That's Amazing. That's even cooler.

[Mike]

And you click the tab of the.

[Bobby Bones]

King of the End.

[Eddie]

I did. I did. So the fact that Jameer Gibbs had the longest touchdown. I get a split of the big pot.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it free?

[Eddie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

You.

[Eddie]

Well, it's just a bet.

[Mike]

Minimum $5.

[Eddie]

Minimum $5 bet. You can do $100 on Jameer Gibbs.

[Bobby Bones]

But how do you win if you bet a hundred on Jameer Gibbs for King of the Ring or whatever.

[Mike]

King of the end, whatever your bet is, you.

[Bobby Bones]

You win that.

[Mike]

Well, you win the bet. Whatever you bet. And then if your guy ends up being the longest touchdown run, you then get a split.

[Bobby Bones]

So is the Jameer Gibson anytime touchdown bet.

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And then you're automatically into the king of the ring.

[Mike]

Yes. But you have to click the king of the end zone. King of the ring.

[Eddie]

Opt in. I don't know which dude, you should opt into everything. That's on top.

[Bobby Bones]

I have to try. I don't even have any more ghost tokens.

[Kevin]

I do all that stuff.

[Mike]

I haven't done a ghost token in.

[Bobby Bones]

Have you had a ghost token once? Oh, yeah, Yeah. I haven't had a ghost token since. Dude, how do I get more ghost tokens?

[Mike]

Mike, what do we have to do?

[Bobby Bones]

Good question. Because I had two and you guys were surprised because I had two in a. Right. Two weeks in a row. And you guys were like, you got a second ghost token a season. It could be.

[Eddie]

Oh, did you win with your ghost token?

[Bobby Bones]

Both.

[Eddie]

Yeah. That's probably why they stopped giving it to you.

[Mike]

I had both, like, cut them off.

[Bobby Bones]

I won King of the tokens.

[Eddie]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, they have king of the court now, too, for basketball.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Longish three pointer.

[Eddie]

No, this is. What is it?

[Mike]

It's Kevin.

[Kevin]

Points, rebounds, and assists combined. Like, you pick one player that night. So it's only on Tuesday night.

[Bobby Bones]

Wimby every night.

[Eddie]

If he plays on Tuesday night. For sure. This week it was Luca.

[Bobby Bones]

He's looking in shape. Slimmer. I've watched a little. I told you. We watched the entire. Well, most of the Thunder and Rockets game. It was interesting to see Katie play. I was watching Dancing with the Stars on my phone. My wife's watching the basketball game.

[Eddie]

Did you hear about this, Kevin?

[Kevin]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, well, it was. They were about to do the elimination, and my wife, a Thunder fan. Her dad watches every Thunder game. And so she's like, hey, it's the first game. They're dropping the banner. First one, getting the rings, all that. So she's like, I want to watch. And I'M like, cool. So. So she's watching the game while I'm watching the dancing. Interesting. So I would assume in other households it would be.

[Kevin]

I was gonna say that sounds like.

[Eddie]

Interesting as in what, though?

[Kevin]

I mean, I guess I get the Dancing with the Stars ties, but that's. Yeah, that would be totally flipped at my place.

[Bobby Bones]

I literally was only watching to see if. I don't need to justify it. I don't need to justify it. I am who I am.

[Eddie]

You're good, but we know who you are.

[Bobby Bones]

I wouldn't have cared to watch it live, but I am rooting for Emma Slater, who is just the best person, and Andy Richter, who I don't know, but I've always watched on Conan, and I just really like Emma. And Andy is not the best dancer. It's probably the worst dancer, but that doesn't matter if you try hard and the people like you. That's actually valued more than the dancing, if you do the math on it. And I could do that whole thing, but I. I'm rooting for them. And they. They lasted another week, so I was pretty happy.

[Kevin]

They're still in it.

[Bobby Bones]

They're still in it.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

I did watch week one, and I was like, oh, man, it might be tough, but to your point, everyone must like him.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

I don't mean that in, like, a diminishing way.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, he's very likable, and he's getting better. Right. Which is really what that show should be. And it is, to a point, really. That show is life. Do people like you? Yep. That's the biggest part of anything. Do you also have some skills? Sure. But if people don't like you, you have no chance.

[Kevin]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

Just in general. So that's what's up. So I'm rooting for them. I hope they win. And so I was watching that. She's watching the game, and then I just stayed on and watched. Freaking double. Oh, it went. And kept going to. It went to overtime.

[Eddie]

Double overtime. Then they only won by one, I think.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, Durant ended up Fallon. Shay and Shea made two free throws, and then the.

[Eddie]

Shay was on fire.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm torn on the NBA. Timeout. Advance the ball because there's two seconds left. Timeout. They advance the ball. Yeah.

[Eddie]

Put it on their side of the court.

[Bobby Bones]

I only like it when it affects me positively. I hate. I hate it when the other team has it.

[Eddie]

I did a double take, too. Like, what's it doing over there?

[Bobby Bones]

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[Eddie]

What's that sound? That's the sound of Downy unstoppable scent beads going into your washing machine and giving your clothes freshness that lasts all day long.

[Bobby Bones]

There it is again.

[Eddie]

It's like music to your ears. Or more like music to your nose. That freshness is irresistible. Let's get a Downy Unstoppables bottle.

[Bobby Bones]

Bottle shake.

[Eddie]

And now a sniff solo. Nice. With Downey Unstoppable, you just toss wash wow. For all day freshness. What do you call your cousin's husband? Is he your cousin too? Like my cousin? I have a cousin. It's a girl. She.

[Bobby Bones]

I think I just call him Ron.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Okay, well, Ken.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes, Ken.

[Eddie]

Ken who's married to my cousin.

[Bobby Bones]

He.

[Eddie]

He was roommates with Andy Richter in college.

[Mike]

No way.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

That crazy.

[Kevin]

Wow.

[Eddie]

Which is crazy. You've talked about Andy Richter a few times and I never even put that together. And then I'm like, oh, you know what? I still Bobby that.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

I had Ken.

[Bobby Bones]

I had messed. I had tweeted out. Now I post on Instagram story. Hey, rooting for Andy and Emma. And Andy was sick for like four days of a week. It's impossible to train for that show if you don't know how to dance and you miss a single day. Almost impossible. And he missed so many days from being really sick. And I was like, hey, rooting for him because I know how hard it is to be sick. And Andy and his wife both messaged me and they were like, hey, thanks so much for doing that because.

[Kevin]

No, that's cool.

[Bobby Bones]

It's been brutal. And so I was like, yeah, let's go.

[Eddie]

That's awesome.

[Bobby Bones]

Emma's awesome. Anyway, Emma was my favorite non partner because you always got to go with your og even though, because you're just on that show, whoever your partner is you're going to get in a fist fight with because it's like a wife or a best friend or I'd say a roommate. More than a best friend. It's like a wife or a roommate. You're just going to fight with them at some point because you're with them all the time. Yeah. And there are going to be days where you're tired or they're tired or God forbid, it makes. And you're both tired. Yeah. But Sharna is the OG and the favorite because we just spent so much time together. But Emma, number one draft pick off the board after her. So rooting for Them.

[Eddie]

And Emma's so pretty.

[Bobby Bones]

You've always said that. Yeah, yeah, you've always said that.

[Eddie]

So pretty. Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm now getting messages from people because I've been doing a series. The only reason I'm doing the series is because I did one video about it and we got a million friggin views. And I'm like, oh, the show's kind of popping again, ratings wise. Like they're having a really successful season so I might as well take advantage of this and just do some content about it. And so I've been shooting these videos just reliving all the dances one by one, which I haven't watched back fully since I actually did the show. And so I'm getting comments now on my YouTube page, which you can go to it's obbybones channel on YouTube to watch all these. It's where I do the Bobby casts. And they're like, oh, for sure. You're in love with your partner and you forget you do if from outside. There is no way that you can watch it and go, oh, they're not banging.

[Eddie]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

But when you do it and you're just grinding away at it, there is. It's the opposite of what you're thinking.

[Kevin]

Interesting. I know because I, I thought the same thing the other night. I was watching a little bit with Zac Efron's brother.

[Bobby Bones]

There are a couple of them that do bang like, like once a season.

[Eddie]

It does happen.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, they do put they strategically, in my opinion. My opinion only. They do cast. They try to cast like a couple where the people are single and it could be possibly a storyline, but for the most part, dude, there's no time for that. There's no, it's not even the environment for that because you're just like training, right? Like you're too tired to get a boner.

[Eddie]

Well, that sounds impossible.

[Kevin]

Sounds like whiskey.

[Bobby Bones]

But I'm telling you, it's just not. That environment is not for that. And Zac Efron's brother, is it Dylan Efron?

[Kevin]

I think so, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

He's his, his partner is married to one of the other dancers.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Okay.

[Kevin]

See, I would have never.

[Eddie]

Who's his partner?

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't know her because she wasn't there when I was there. But that culture is so much. I would compare it to guys slapping butts in football or baseball. It's like, oh, they must be gay. Because if you didn't know the culture, you just see two guys grabbing each other's butts, you're like, oh, he Likes butts.

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And you're like, no, no, no. It's just part of the athletic culture. It doesn't matter. You're. You're naked in the shower together, you're touching butts. Dance is kind of like that. You're.

[Kevin]

You make it seem like it's like.

[Eddie]

Dude, that's why I got your butt.

[Kevin]

You got my butts every day.

[Bobby Bones]

Wait, you guys.

[Mike]

You want, like, you don't do that at the.

[Brandon Marcelo]

There.

[Kevin]

There's still lines to this. Just so we're clear.

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. Never with me. But dance is kind of like that.

[Kevin]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

The comparison I would make is, like, slapping butts or like, a bunch of dudes after they practice taking a shower at the same time. Yeah, yeah. You're just touching and pushing and pulling and just you. That's just never a thing.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Bopping.

[Bobby Bones]

Bop it.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Twisting.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I'm starting to see those comments again. Like, you can tell you're in love. And I'm like, dude, she wanted to wring my neck for four days.

[Kevin]

What happened off camera?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

All right. I got a couple other things. Why don't I go to Brandon Marcelo first? Oh, I got. And I gotta do that. What's up? Got a surprise for me?

[Kevin]

No, no.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, dang it. Open like a surprise. Gonna come in like, they're whispering. I was, like, bringing. They were, like, bringing. Margaret, Bring in the cake.

[Kevin]

Bring them in. Fantasy baseball camp.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's do our. Let's do our parlay here. Eddie, pick one. Brandon, pick one. Or. Excuse me, Kevin. We should kick Eddie out this week.

[Eddie]

Okay. Go ahead. I mean, I was feeling good about this one.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Kevin]

We'll do one more week. If whoever fails, I was gonna say. So we have. Well, if two people, I guess.

[Bobby Bones]

No, let's just. Okay. Eddie, you're in. Brandon, next week can come in the triangle of death.

[Brandon Marcelo]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

If I.

[Eddie]

If I hit mine, though, can I stay in?

[Bobby Bones]

Debatable.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

You've missed so many. All right, But. Okay, but, you know, I'll tell you what. If you do, you can.

[Eddie]

But if I miss it, for sure, Brandon's up.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Because I think that's like 17 in a row.

[Eddie]

Yeah, man. Bad. College football's tough for me.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so we're going to build our 25 whistles college football parlay. I will go to you, Kevin.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

I'm gonna go with Texas A M minus 2 1/2 at LSU. Good. LSU's offense is bad, so I'm hoping that they cover.

[Eddie]

You sound confident? Yeah, I would Hope that Eddie, man, I. Every week I'm like, belichick's got to get better. Like, this team's got.

[Bobby Bones]

This is where you're going.

[Eddie]

What?

[Bobby Bones]

You keep touching the stove way.

[Kevin]

You're going to North Carolina.

[Eddie]

And I'm like, I'm not falling for it anymore.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, there you go.

[Eddie]

We're going Virginia -10 and a half against North Carolina. Against North Carolina.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so far, two favorites. I'm gonna. I'll take it. I'll take a rough rough. And so I will go Ole Miss plus five and a half at Oklahoma.

[Kevin]

Like it.

[Bobby Bones]

Plus they may not win the game, but I'm going to go Ole Miss. And you're getting five and a half points at Oklahoma. Triangle of death.

[Kevin]

Can I change mine or is it too late?

[Bobby Bones]

Too late, too late.

[Eddie]

So, Kevin, you have text. You have A and M. Where. So we have all visiting team.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Eddie]

Road dogs. All road dogs.

[Bobby Bones]

Just. Bro. They're not dogs, though.

[Eddie]

You. You have a dog? Yeah, we got three roads and one dog.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

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[Bobby Bones]

All right, we're gonna get over now to national College football reporter for CBS Sports and 247 Sports, Brandon Marcelo. Brandon joins us all season long. Best. He's the best. Follow him on Instagram at Brandon Marcelo and check out his articles on CBSSports.com here he is, Brandon Marcelo. First things first, just because it's on top of mind, you think Jimbo Fisher's coming back to coaching.

[Brandon Marcelo]

If it's not this year, I don't know when cause there's going to be a lot of jobs open. We're going to see 30 plus jobs come open the FBS this year. I think a lot of it's going to be dependent really on whether he wants to coach a mid tier to lower tier power program or a high group of six school like a, like a UAB maybe. And I talked to him a year ago actually about getting back into coaching and how he wanted to do it, but he kept saying it's gotta be the right situation. And I, I just don't think he'd be all that interested in a job where you can't go, like, win a championship. I think he's still got quite a bit of pride from that standpoint. So it'll be fascinating to see if he's changed his thinking at all going into this year. But, I mean, he's certainly going to have a lot of job openings and opportunities to look at. I think, like a. Jobs that he could best fit into that would be, quote, unquote, mid tier to, you know, in the power conferences would be like a Virginia Tech. You know, he's a West Virginia guy. Maybe there's something you work out there or, or maybe even like a, like in Arkansas or something like that.

[Bobby Bones]

No, don't whisper that. Stop it.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Well, I mean, listen, you never know how far down some of these schools are going to get down their lists because there's, there's going to be a lot of openings and a lot of candidates that a lot of these schools are going to share.

[Bobby Bones]

I think it's interesting with him, especially for two reasons. One, obviously, Florida State, he was the guy that. It was so surprising that he went to Texas A and M because he was the guy at Florida State, and Florida State's the guy school. Like, if you're there, that's not a job you go to to go to another school. So it was surprising that he left Florida State to go to Texas A and M until you hear the money that he made. Right. And Texas A and M was really invested. They started spending a lot of money around that time, obviously, because they got to pay him out like crazy. So it would be kind of an ego hit to have to go to a lower school. But I could understand going to a lower school if you were a younger guy and you could spend four or five years building that and then getting back to a higher school. But Jimbo Fisher is no spring chicken. And I think that also has to be thought that if you go to a uab, you're kind of doing it to retire there, right?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, probably. I mean, he's 60 years old.

[Bobby Bones]

He's only 60.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, he's only 60. He's not too old.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, I didn't. I thought he was like 85. Holy cow.

[Brandon Marcelo]

You know, it's funny, I was doing a interview on, on satellite radio earlier this week, and they, they said he's like 70, right? I said, I said, no, he's 60. They went, oh, he was born in 60. I know. No, he's 60. He's 60 years old. No, I, you know, it's funny. He was up for the UAB job years ago, and UAB passed him up. Oh. And I think that kind of always stuck under his skin a little bit. Yeah. I don't know. I think, you know, Jimbo Fisher probably thinks, like, a lot of us thinks much more highly of himself than a lot of people do out there in the industry. And I, I, again, I wonder over the last year since I've talked to him if he's checked himself and looked himself in the mirror, because if he really wants to coach, he keep. Kept telling me when I sat down with them, you know, I just miss teaching the kids and everything. It's like, well, if you really miss coaching, go coach high school ball. But, you know, that's not what the ego tells them.

[Bobby Bones]

I think Jimbo Fisher, and he's definitely asking my advice on this one. You got to get a skincare routine, because I thought you were like 100, you know, you got to get a better skincare routine. Got. Because you definitely got to put out more of a. I'm only 60 years old, because that's really not that old.

[Eddie]

He just turned 60, dude.

[Bobby Bones]

That's crazy to me.

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[Bobby Bones]

Okay, so that's number one. And then two. Any chance, like, Florida State would even want him back?

[Brandon Marcelo]

I don't know. That's a. That's a long road to go. But, you know, Florida State. Not to say Florida State's facing financial problems, but, man, they have spent a lot of money over the last several years, and if they fire Mike Norvell at the end of this year, it's going to cost them about $58 million to buy him out in addition to all the other assistants. So you're talking about probably like 70, $80 million at the very least, then hire another coach, like, maybe if they can get him at a discount, say, hey, welcome back, buddy. But even so, like, when he left Florida State, it wasn't necessarily even on the best of terms, not only because he spurred them, but because the offensive line there was really diminished and really falling apart. And that's why, a big reason why, you know, his replacement, Willie Taggart, and even Mike Norvell in his early tenure struggled so much because they just didn't had any offensive linemen, and they had to take a while to fix that. So I. I don't know. I. I just don't think. I don't think he's in a fantastic position to get a job that he kind of dreams of. But I did throw out there a possibility like, you know, he's getting paid $7.1 million a year by Texas A M still for a buyout. And he gets paid that yearly for the next five years. So why not at your new school, go pitch yourself, be like, hey, you know, Virginia Tech or Arkansas. I, I'm sorry to say this, Bobby, but like, hey, give me a five year contract but don't start paying me till year three and then my first two years. Invest heavily in nil and resources and paying my assistant coaches and I'll prove it to you. We'll. We'll go and compete for a championship in the first two years and then you start paying me in year three. And then, you know, after three years or whatever, you don't think it's great, then just fire me. And all you're really out of is one year of salary. Because he's already getting that big payday from, from Texas A and M. I.

[Bobby Bones]

Think the precedent there, because in college there isn't. But Russ Wilson, for example, when he left Denver and they owed him all that money, like when he went to Pittsburgh, he took like 100 bucks. Like that was his salary because he knew anything he took was going to eat out of Denver. So Pittsburgh got him super cheap. It's basically that same theory of I'm getting paid by this team because they owe me this money, so I'm going to pick where I go next and take very little to hurt the cap. Now there's not a cap in college, but there is. You want to spend as little as possible because you only have so much to invest. And I'll play quarterback for you. I could be a coach for you for a million a year and you could take all because he's. Again, because he's only got a. Then he gets 6 million from a M according to, you know, just the.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Well, there's no mitigation in the contract. He doesn't have to mitigate.

[Bobby Bones]

He gets it all then.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, he gets it all no matter what. So I do it for an even better spot for him.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, then I would do it for a nickel and just try to get to one of the big schools. Yeah, man. Okay, Jimbo. Skin care routine and go coach somewhere for a nickel. That's what I would tell him if I were advising Jimbo Fisher. Dang. Okay, other jobs. Florida, is it Lane or then everybody else's second tier?

[Brandon Marcelo]

I think so. I mean, he's the one that just makes the most sense. You know, another guy that I think would do very, very well there would be Eli Drinkowitz at Mizzou. I also think his personality, how he just kind of gets under people's skin is something that would fit in very well there at Florida, much like we saw previously with Steve Spurrier and even in Dan Mullen to a certain extent, you know, and don't. And don't discount the idea of maybe James Franklin going down there. You know, Franklin was considered for that job, and there were some rumors around him, you know, a few years back about maybe leaving Penn State for there. Let's remember, I mean, James Franklin, yes, fired, but he was just at the national champion or national semifinals this past year in the college football playoffs. So I. I think that would be something that can be considered. But the thing is, is like trying to predict this coaching carousel and who's going to get hired where I think is as hard and as difficult as it's ever been because a lot more of these schools are so willing to just go. So get. Tell us what you want to be paid. Tell us what you want so you can stick around. They, you know, Indiana's already done with Kurt Signetti giving him a new deal already. Ole Miss is currently trying to work with Lane Kiffin and his agent, Jimmy Sexton, to give him a bigger deal. In fact, I was texting with the athletics director there, Keith Carter, on Tuesday about where that was at, and he says they're still. They're still talking, trying to make progress on it. But I. I would be shocked if Lane Kiffin gets a new deal together here within the next two or three weeks. I think he's going to smartly let this play out and see how he can maybe get a better payday at Ole Miss or, you know, potentially get the job at Florida, if that's what he wants.

[Bobby Bones]

I think one of the more interesting and odd things about this cycle, one, there are so many. But two, so many coaches are getting fired early in mid, which means there's a whole lot of talking, and nobody can commit to anything like Lane, Eli, any of these coaches that have teams that are still in the mix because they. They literally can't go. Yeah. They can't take a job while their team's still in the hunt to make the playoff. So it just gives us a whole lot of time to talk about something that really. There can be nothing definitive happen.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Exactly. And it's, again, that's going to be part of the reason why this cycle is going to be so crazy because you're going to hear a bunch of weird stuff, I believe. I mean, we're already, I'm already hearing weird stuff in the background about, you know, the process. A lot of these schools, as far as just reaching out to people through intermediaries and then also even talking to some potential candidates that are assistant coaches and coordinators just to kind of do like here's our 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th option. But again, there's going to be so many jobs open. You know, half these schools are probably going to be disappointed. Their fan bases are going to be kind of disappointed or just go meh with their hire because there's just gonna be way too many jobs open and the big schools are going to get who they want and everybody below them is gonna have to maybe take some chances.

[Bobby Bones]

I have a theory and I want to ask you first, what you hear, what you say you can, what you can say you're hearing about the Arkansas job.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It's still very early. I do think that some of the names, you know, the high tier name, so to speak, that you've heard out there are probably not going to be realistic options at this point because the other jobs that are opening. And then also you have to consider how these coaches are performing currently. And there's going to be some other jobs that come open that we're not quite expecting or didn't expect in the preseason that we're gonna have to weigh here. You know, Auburn is one that could very possibly come open. In fact, my opinion is, is that probably does come open. If Arkansas beats Auburn this weekend, I think that'll kind of put a nail in the, in the coffin there. Gotta look at lsu, for example. I mean, if Brian Kelly and them kind of go south even further this season, that's a possibility. They got a big one in the bayou this weekend against Texas A and M. If they win that game, I think that changes the tenor completely. And even ou, Brent Venables, look at the remaining schedule for them. I think four or five, four of their five final opponents all rank in the top 20 and they get Ole Miss this week and that's a big game in Norman. So I think this week is really kind of a potentially kind of the fulcrum for jobs like those, those three that I just mentioned in the SEC where if they win those games, everything's fine and those jobs probably won't open. But if they lose them, then maybe the floodgates open up quite a bit.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you think that Arkansas will hire Bobby Petrino.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I think a lot more has got to happen for that to happen. One, he needs to start winning games. You know, I find it interesting that so many people are just like, man, this team's playing so hard and you can tell they care for him. And it's just like, yeah, but they're still 02. I mean, under him. I mean, and the scores are very similar to what they were beforehand. I think everybody's focused so much on just that final score for the Notre Dame game. And they almost assume like, well, that's how every game would have been after that. Well, look at the games before that. Everything was like a one possession loss against the top five, top ten Ole Miss team, for example, on the road. So what's different about losing at home by one possession against Texas A and M or losing on the road at Tennessee by one possession? It's the same stuff that's been plaguing them. They can't close. They've got a lot of talent offensively and their defense just struggles. I think that's been the case all year. Nothing's different.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I think if he beats Auburn, that gives him a shot. I think if he loses to Auburn, that is probably over. Let me roll a scenario out and you. Can you tell me how you would interpret it? So I was, you know, I write a decent amount of checks to the Arkansas program and I usually send them a substantial amount of money. And I was sending my substantial amount of money yesterday and I said, you know what? I'm actually going to send a. I'm going to add to it. I'm going to supplement this substantial amount of money with another bit of money. But let's go ahead and put it toward basketball is what I said. And it was met with, hey, look, we got a coaching thing going on. Is there any way we can like, maybe put it toward football as well? I interpret that as they're looking for a new coach to hire. Not that they're going to hire Petrino because they could probably get Petrino at a discounted rate.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Don't you think that. Or they're, they're putting all their, they're moving their money around so they could help them attract a coach.

[Bobby Bones]

That's. Well, that's what I. Yeah, yes, yes. Another somebody that's not Petrino, because I don't think they're going, hey, we're really trying to double up our raising money for the coach to hire Petrino full time.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, I, I still think, I mean, unless they just go on a tear Here. And even if he wins like two more games, like, I just don't see them making that move and because if they made that movie, if he like won a couple of games, I think it just shows you that they, they whiffed on some of the guys they wanted and they see Petrino as like a kind of a trial run again, like, you know, he's, he's the stop gap potentially. But I don't think he can run a program like that of going, oh, let's just give him a couple years. You can't do that. And I, I've argued this, Bobby, and I've said this over and over again. The program really is kind of an inflection point in a lot of reasons and not to get too long winded. But you know, college football is probably going to look the same in five years. I know everybody says that seems like every five years since the pandemic, but it won't because there's a possibility that we end up seeing a super league get formed or some type of breakaway with football where it's just a football only league. And the reason why I say that is because everybody else has been preparing for that. I mean, the ACC's new grant of rights or contract or whatever they put together within the last year allows teams to leave the conference at a lesser financial penalty if they go join a football only conference, which kind of fits into the wheelhouse of what Clemson and Florida State, North Carolina, even Virginia Tech and Miami may potentially do at some point if something like that were to arise. And then you have the Big Ten trying to protect itself by infusing private equity into their conference and, and making their 16 teams sign a grant of rights through 2046. And you've got, you know, Michigan, Ohio State and everybody rebuffing that. So we don't want that. So the doors are open. There's like a pathway open here for a super league to be created. So why does that matter to someone like Arkansas? Well, Arkansas right now wouldn't be included in that super league. I mean, Arkansas would end up being just a pretty much what a group of six school is right now, the new group of six type school where if you're not part of that football only league, then what are you really? You're just a team in the American Conference pretty much. And you've got to start winning now and spending money now to potentially get back up there. That's why you see programs like Texas Tech spending so much money to win big and win big now. So they can try and position themselves to be a little bit more appetizing to. But the possibility, even if it is far flung out there, to be able to be part of this 32 team or whatever super league, if it were to ever come to be. And, you know, you got to make a decision if you're Arkansas, if you want to be part of that, then you need to spend the money now and act like it. And if you don't, then you're sending the message out there that you don't take it seriously.

[Bobby Bones]

What about a couple of these Big 12 guys who are playing at schools that aren't particularly football schools, but have one like a. Satterfield's got Cincinnati, a pretty strong place, and Leipold in Kansas, that's a basketball school. Like, you know, what about hiring one of those guys? Do you think those guys could be.

[Brandon Marcelo]

On the move if Wisconsin comes up? I think Lance Leipold would be a heavy target there. He's got background there. He coached at Wisconsin, Whitewater, coming up through the ranks. Satterfield is an interesting discussion point there, just because he was on the hot seat entering this year. He hadn't done too well there, but he's obviously struck a little bit big here, especially through the transfer portal and some of the support they've had there. I'm not sure his name would get a lot of connection to a lot of these jobs. You know, Matt Campbell at Iowa State, which he's always been successful and consistent there, but he's done so in a program that just doesn't spend a lot of money on football. And in fact, I remember talking to him in July, and he, like, was hesitant to. Even when I asked him about, like, are they supporting you fully through the revenue sharing? And he said, oh, we're getting there. So maybe someone like him, maybe he would finally be willing to move because he's turned down opportunities in the past to stay there. He's been very loyal. But, yeah, you know, there's a lot of great coaches, especially in the Big 12, that don't get mentioned for other jobs just because I think partly because that league beats up on themselves so much. So, like, a great coach might still end up with three or four losses just because that that league gets so crazy. The other issue, though, like, with a lot of Those great Big 12 coaches is a lot of them are coaching at their alma mater, right? Yeah. Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State doing very well. Kalani Sataki at byu. So it's kind of difficult to consider them as maybe Some big time prospects at some of these other schools.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, the final question I'll ask then is based off that is that Clark Lee obviously went to Vanderbilt, came back, and Vanderbilt's a real player. It's weird to say, but Vanderbilt, they're for real. And Clark Lee is for real. He was awesome as a coordinator at Notre Dame. He flipped the program around so much so that. And we know Clark a little bit. When he said they were a few years ago at the press conference like here to win a national championship, we thought it was kind of funny. We were like, oh, that's good. Good for him to say something funny like that. But like, it looks like now he really believed it and like they have a great shot to make the playoff. My question is, do you think Clark Lee would leave a Vanderbilt, which isn't really a football school, except he made it that and that's his school.

[Brandon Marcelo]

That's a very difficult decision that you have to make. I think that if a Penn State were to come calling, it's very difficult to turn that down because you're built to where every year you know you're going to have a chance to contend in your conference at Vanderbilt and your best years, you're hoping to be in the conversation among the top four, top five, like they are this year. You also have to consider, you know, I hate to say this, but like, Vanderbilt's winning a lot for a lot of reasons, but their big reason is they got quarterback Diego Pavier and the other teams don't. He's not going to have that next year. Now they've built great pieces around him. I think their offensive line is phenomenal this year. But at some point you have to decide, like, is this as good as it's going to get here? That's the big question he's got to ask himself. But also he's in a great support structure there. I mean, you've seen what they've done with the stadium, the facilities there. They've really invested heavily in that. That would, I think would be a very difficult decision for him to make. To make. But, but man, if, if like Penn State or a Florida or something like that were to come calling, like, how do you tell them no? And if you do tell them no, I think that's kind of sets a precedence. Again, as I say this, as we've seen with Kurt Signetti at Indiana signing a new big contract, saying, I'm going to stay here, I think it really takes someone that just goes, I'm going to be loyal and I'm going to stick here to, to do that even when these other programs that are set up to win every single year come calling.

[Bobby Bones]

What are you doing this weekend?

[Brandon Marcelo]

I'm going to go to Auburn, Arkansas. I've been traveling every week so I'm. These next two weeks I'm staying back. I thought I was going to sit on the couch and watch games and write and talk to people on the phone, but I'm going to go there just because I think, I think Arkansas is going to win. I think it'll be Petrino's first big win. So that's a storyline but even more so in the national perspective if Hugh Freeze loses that game at Auburn, I think that's probably the, the potentially the end there. And so I'm interested to see how Freeze reacts after the game if you lose and of course talk to people around the program about what the, the future might hold there for them. But again, you go to a lot of these games just going here are the possible storylines, which ones are possible that might hit. So you go there just in case and I might go there and I'll probably, you know, maybe not even write anything but you go there just in case.

[Bobby Bones]

I think I may go too. But what kept me out was the weather last week and it's still like chance of rain, right? I ain't trying to fly in a chance of rain.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, it's supposed to rain Friday and then all day Saturday it looks like. Yeah, I've got, I've got tickets to the game every, you know, every week. I'm a season ticket holder. I've yet obviously I don't go to the games. I usually just give them to friends and I gave them to a friend actually this morning and my wife and my kid that, you know, they've went to been to one game this year but like the weather and then also our he plays basketball and soccer on Saturdays. Makes it difficult. But yeah, it's been string of bad luck here the last two weeks. Just bad, bad weather.

[Bobby Bones]

If I look and it's down to like 20%, I'll be there. I just, you know, I'm getting older. I don't need to deal with that crap. I don't need, I don't need to get wet. I ain't trying to go to a game and get wet. Like who am I? All right, Brandon, Good to talk to you, buddy. And man, it's exciting. I just wish there could be like some like conclusions to these coaching the cycle but there just can't be because Most of the coaches in the mix are still playing for things.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah. And I think it'll be fast and furious that last week of November and early December, there gonna be a lot of just movement as far as hirings and stuff. And like every. All the dominoes will start falling quickly in succession. It's really gonna be wild as much as like fans really look at like signing day. These two, they'd be the big thing. There's gonna be about a two week period where it's gonna be pretty wild. In the carousel. Hey, if you come to Fayetteville, look me up. I'd like to see a Saturday. If I'm in the press box, look me up.

[Bobby Bones]

I'll call you. Before I even get there, before we even get to the stadium. He's like, hey, man, if you see me at. No, I'll just text you. Be like, hey, dude, are you around?

[Eddie]

Find a phone booth.

[Bobby Bones]

He's like, hey, if you see a guy that looks like me, yell from across the hall. No, Brandon, good to see you, buddy. And I'll talk to you next week.

[Brandon Marcelo]

All right, see you.

[Bobby Bones]

I did want to talk about the Randy Johnson thing, which I thought was really cool. And you're seeing these adult men, which is weird. They show up. I don't have a problem with adult men in jerseys. My rule, if you wear a jersey, it needs to be somebody older than you. So if you're a 50 year old man, you kind of need to wear a Babe Ruth jersey or like, or like somebody from the seven Willie Star. Joel. It's weird if I wear a jersey from Jackson Dart.

[Eddie]

Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, he's a kid in my 40s.

[Bobby Bones]

So you need to have a jersey on somebody older than you, not the same age. So these dudes, the weird thing about these dudes is they're wearing like Randy Johnson jerseys as he's signing stuff. And they're adults the same age as Randy Johnson and also they're with them, like, can we sign it? Just. I like it. I liked Passion, but to me, I probably would not wear that to go to a Randy Johnson signing.

[Kevin]

You know, would you just carry it or would you not even have it?

[Bobby Bones]

No, no, no. They weren't getting him to sign it. They were just wearing it. They were just wearing Mariner stuff because Randy Johnson was there.

[Kevin]

Gotcha.

[Mike]

One guy did have a Griffey jersey younger than.

[Bobby Bones]

You know what? Debatable. They were about the same age, though. Griffey, now he's a kid, so he still seems young. Yeah. But he was an older man.

[Mike]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

I just think if you wear a jersey, it needs to be somebody older than you.

[Eddie]

Wear it where? Like, can I wear it at my house?

[Bobby Bones]

Sure.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

You. You can wear whatever you want.

[Eddie]

I know this is America, but according to that logic. So, like, the Cowboys are playing my CD Lamb jersey.

[Bobby Bones]

You can wear that at home.

[Eddie]

I like wearing that at home.

[Bobby Bones]

You can wear it at home. I wouldn't wear a CD Lamb jersey to a Dallas Cowboys game. Oh, no way.

[Kevin]

Well, you think wearing it at home is better than wearing it to a game?

[Bobby Bones]

I think wearing it home, nobody sees. You can wear panties, dude. You wear a thong. Your wife's thong. At home. I don't see it.

[Eddie]

I can't do that. I'm not wearing a jersey to a game.

[Bobby Bones]

You could, but you can. But I would make sure if you're wearing a jersey to a game, it's a Roger Staubach jersey for if you're a Dallas Cowboy.

[Eddie]

Emmett Smith.

[Kevin]

Drew Pearson.

[Eddie]

Troy Aikman.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Eddie]

All those guys.

[Bobby Bones]

That works. So they were getting these autographs from Randy Johnson, and he was signing, and one of the guys was like, hey, why don't you sign jerseys? Because Randy Johnson doesn't sign jerseys. And I thought this answer was awesome. Here's the clip.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It's the one thing that I don't sign because it's the one thing that can raise money for charities, my charities, or other people's charities, because there's not a lot of them floating out there. I was doing this way back a long time ago.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So that's why.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, we couldn't figure out why. Smart, though, because it's one thing. I mean, everything else just signed. But one thing that might raise a little bit more money for a charity.

[Bobby Bones]

Keeps the value up of signed jerseys because he doesn't do a lot of them.

[Mike]

It's really cool.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I thought that was super cool.

[Eddie]

I do the sun.

[Bobby Bones]

Excuse me.

[Eddie]

Just. I don't sign things unless it's for my charity or any kind of charity work that I do.

[Bobby Bones]

That isn't. First of all, that's a lie, because listener will send pictures up and you'll sign them. We'll all do it. And there's like, three lies there, but they're all lies.

[Eddie]

Yeah, but it sounds so cool to say that, though.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's look at the quick preview. Football games. College football games first. UCLA at Indiana, -25 and a half. Hey, Brandon, if you were to have picked one for the triangle of death, what would you have picked?

[Mike]

So I got the New York Rangers over. I'm just kidding.

[Bobby Bones]

Over Ottawa.

[Mike]

He's like, you know, I'm really in the NHL now.

[Bobby Bones]

What would you have picked?

[Eddie]

Let me see, do you have it set up? Like, did you have it picked?

[Mike]

I haven't picked college yet.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Brendan has a car too. He's like, his car is outside and it's in the garage and it's loaded with like $100,000 of audio equipment. And he's like, what do I do? Do I park it in the garage? Do I just not come? Do I, I'm like, ah, just park in the garage. So like his butts puckered all show long. Think he's gonna walk out there? I'm like, all of our stuff's gonna be gone.

[Mike]

I'm gonna pick Vandy over Missouri. Negative two and a half.

[Bobby Bones]

So let's, let's add a learning lesson. Okay, Learning lesson. Brandon here. Because Brandon doesn't claim to be like the. Who do you think is more sports, Brandon or Reed?

[Kevin]

Brandon.

[Eddie]

Brandon.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Whoa.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I can't believe that's even a question.

[Kevin]

Definitely more NFL for sure. In college, right?

[Mike]

Yeah. I mean, anything. Reed's like, what sport are we playing again?

[Bobby Bones]

Like, I, I think that's unfair to read.

[Mike]

He'll tell you.

[Bobby Bones]

And I will defend him because Reed was very proficient at golf. Oh yeah. And a good golfer. And when we shoot golf stuff, Brandon's like, so which of those tees do you hit with your club? Like.

[Mike]

Reads great at golf.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

And I would say like when Brandon says Vanderbilt.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Negative.

[Bobby Bones]

Negative. I said negative.

[Mike]

I heard it right away. Right away.

[Bobby Bones]

This is gambling lingo. This is a teaching moment. That's why I wondered. Because Reed can now bet with the best of them. Hey, let me tell you about Reed. Reed got into it.

[Eddie]

He did.

[Bobby Bones]

Reed got himself out of it because he felt like he was going to, he was winning too much and that was going to flip. So how would you say it now?

[Mike]

Vanderbilt over Missouri minus two and a half.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Close.

[Bobby Bones]

And this is also good because we all had to learn how to say. I would say, oh, Vanderbilt -2 and.

[Mike]

A half over Missouri.

[Eddie]

Yeah, like that.

[Mike]

Because the money line would be over Missouri. Vanderbilt over Missouri.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Vanderbilt. Moneyline.

[Mike]

Moneyline.

[Eddie]

I can see how it's very intimidating. Like every time.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Sure.

[Bobby Bones]

It's too. It's almost like the friggin crafts table.

[Eddie]

Yes. Like my kid on Sundays I get my kids to like, I pass on the phone while I'm driving to church. Like you guys pick on the way to church.

[Bobby Bones]

He's like, hey, what lines do you.

[Kevin]

Guys gamble on the way home?

[Eddie]

Yeah. And they pass it around the back seat and they get to, they're like, dad, do we do money line or do we do the spread? And then we're like, let's try spread. And they're like, well, what does this mean? So it's very complicated.

[Bobby Bones]

And you guys read Second Corinthians right before we got.

[Kevin]

That's good.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So, so, so your pick though is Vanderbilt minus two and a half.

[Mike]

Yes. And really I, I, I need to practice the lingo with you guys because I just talk to myself when I bet. So I don't, you know, you're not wrong.

[Kevin]

Right.

[Bobby Bones]

But I think a lot of our listeners too, they didn't know what a parlay was. Neither did we until someone told us.

[Kevin]

Right, right.

[Bobby Bones]

So all this stuff is new. Until someone teaches you.

[Eddie]

You know, I still don't know what a round robin is like. I see that as an option sometimes.

[Bobby Bones]

I can tell you.

[Eddie]

Tell me.

[Bobby Bones]

So let's say you parlay. Let's say you have a three game parlay.

[Eddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

And I'll just make up three bets here. Here's three games happening this weekend. UCLA at Indiana, Syracuse at Georgia Tech, Ole Miss at Oklahoma. Let's say you bet a parlay and you bet all the home teams. So you do the parlay. It's Indiana, Georgia Tech and Oklahoma. And so you get better odds because you're doing all three. And if any one of the three loses, you lose that parlay. The round robin is also, you're betting on all the games individually as well.

[Eddie]

Oh, so. So to place the bet, it's going to be way more expensive because it.

[Bobby Bones]

Is going to cost more.

[Eddie]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

So you're going to bet the part, let's say, bet five bucks in the parlay. Because let's say the odds are plus three. And that can be nothing. We do sometimes plus and minus. Yeah. But let's say it's like plus 330. So that's for the parlay. But if you're going to round robin it, they're all three individual bets. So it's if you're going to put five bucks there and then five bucks in the parlay, it's going to be 20 bucks total.

[Eddie]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

Five bucks for the parlay and then each of those individuals are five bucks each.

[Eddie]

Kind of like that. I might try that this weekend on.

[Mike]

The way to church.

[Eddie]

No, on Saturdays, home.

[Bobby Bones]

Home from church.

[Eddie]

That's stressful, dude. Home from church. Is stressful because. Just because the games are about to start usually get out about 11. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Are you driving? I make my wife drive while I make all the bets.

[Bobby Bones]

Nothing like a good Sunday worship in the Lord.

[Eddie]

Sometimes I feel like the Lord gives me pics. Really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Like, yep.

[Bobby Bones]

Vikings at Chargers tonight. Quick games, Browns, the Patriots. We're really pulling for those Patriots. And our money.

[Kevin]

Hey, we're in the positive.

[Bobby Bones]

We are. 400 bucks.

[Eddie]

Thank God.

[Bobby Bones]

400 bucks.

[Kevin]

Beautiful.

[Eddie]

It just looks better on. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

We were down a thousand. Yeah. 1100.

[Kevin]

Yeah, I think 1100 was.

[Bobby Bones]

Who's down the most in our league?

[Eddie]

He's down 2600.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

[Eddie]

I mean, the one that got him. The Ravens. He got the Ravens.

[Mike]

It was that guy and the Cole.

[Eddie]

He got the Ravens to win and the Colts to lose.

[Bobby Bones]

So read his team. So. So. And what they do.

[Eddie]

All right, so he has Ravens to win.

[Bobby Bones]

So every time the Ravens win, he wins money. If they lose, no money. But he's got to pay out everybody else. Okay, go ahead.

[Eddie]

And the Ravens have won one.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So big bad one.

[Eddie]

The jets to lose. He's won six. That's his.

[Bobby Bones]

That's his only money maker.

[Eddie]

That's his big one.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Eddie]

And he also has the Broncos to win. They've won five.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. That's a good one.

[Eddie]

Pretty good. That's where it gets bad. Colts to lose.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, man.

[Eddie]

They've lost one game.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. They're the best team in the NFL right now.

[Kevin]

Yeah. And they have seen number one. See?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, probably overall.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

And then for some reason he thought the Cardinals were going to win a lot of games. They've won two. And the Bears to win.

[Bobby Bones]

They've won four in a row.

[Kevin]

That's saved him a little bit, but he's minus.

[Eddie]

He's minus two. 600. Brutal. Dude. It's crazy how this shifts, like just one week at a time. It's like, you know, like, I can't believe that we're above water.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep. And so we have. Okay. Just to roll through the games. Brown, the Patriots. We're pulling for the Patriots. Dolphins and Falcons. Jets at Bengals. We're big Bengals guys because we have the big time Bengals and we like that one. Giants, Eagles, little division. You probably want the Giants to win that game though, huh?

[Eddie]

Over the Eagles. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Just division.

[Eddie]

Absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

So it gives Cowboys chance if they want to pull up. Bills at Panthers, Bears at Ravens. Ravens big favorite because Lamar's back. They Took out all the video games, though, in the locker room.

[Kevin]

Did they?

[Bobby Bones]

Did they have video games? Took out all the basketball distractions.

[Eddie]

Yeah. Guys, you got to be serious.

[Bobby Bones]

Everything. 49ers at Texans, Bucks at Saints, Cowboys at Broncos, Titans at Colts.

[Eddie]

Man, the Bucks are like. It's just bad over there.

[Kevin]

Injuries.

[Eddie]

Now Evans is out for the season.

[Bobby Bones]

It was in for like a play.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Right. They got.

[Bobby Bones]

The good thing is, though, they've won without him. Yeah. And they didn't know that Ibuka was going to be as good as he is, so.

[Kevin]

And her boy Tez.

[Eddie]

It's time for Tez to shine.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Do that hurdle. And everybody hurdles all the time. That hurdle.

[Kevin]

He just makes it look so easy.

[Bobby Bones]

He's just so small.

[Eddie]

Oh, you guys can't do that.

[Kevin]

No, no, you can.

[Bobby Bones]

Commanders, Chiefs. Think about this, though. So our league. I. I almost don't want to do this, but I'm just going to do it for the sake. This is content. This is not real life. In our league, we have the Patriots, the Bucks, the Chiefs, and the Bengals. Yep. One, two, three. We have four favorites. Guys.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

How's that make you feel?

[Bobby Bones]

You know what? Great. I'd rather be doing that the other way.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

If we can win another. If we can have another.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Or that'd be nice.

[Bobby Bones]

We take our family on vacation. Yeah.

[Eddie]

A. Well, during a well deserved vacation.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's go. But.

[Eddie]

But I'm gonna. Hey, we're probably not though, guys.

[Bobby Bones]

Nope. There's no positivity in the chat till after the game.

[Eddie]

Probably not. I've learned that.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Okay. That's what's up. The Oklahoma Ole Miss games. Pretty cool.

[Kevin]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I think we're getting. One of those teams gets kind of gets eliminated from the. Are you a top tier team? What's interesting about Oklahoma is they have a lot of hard games. They lost a game to Texas. It's their only loss. And you know, they're ranked 13. They have a lot of hard games coming up. If they lose this one, it could end up a.500 Oklahoma squad. If they win this game, though, I think it leads them to actually win a couple more games. They have a good season. Oh, dang.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Read their schedule.

[Eddie]

They get Tennessee after this.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep.

[Eddie]

Alabama in Alabama. And then they have Missouri and then lsu.

[Kevin]

Geez.

[Eddie]

It'S tough.

[Bobby Bones]

All right, we're done. You guys have anything? I know what you're whispering about over the. Thought you had a surprise for me or a cake or something.

[Mike]

I was just gonna talk about Chauncey Billups.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, yeah, the gambling stuff.

[Eddie]

What do you want to say?

[Kevin]

Wild dude.

[Mike]

I mean, he's. I just want to know if you guys heard about it.

[Brandon Marcelo]

What do you.

[Eddie]

What do you got?

[Mike]

Chauncey Billup. Chauncey Billups is down negative $2,100.

[Bobby Bones]

He's the guy with that team.

[Eddie]

He picked the Ravens to win, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, man. The card. The poker stuff's crazy. X ray machines under the table, the glasses and contact lenses. They could see the cards unmarked. But they had like special be awesome illegal. Oh, yeah.

[Eddie]

How much fun would that be to go in a casino like that?

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't know how much fun it would be to be my age and play against 5 year olds in football.

[Eddie]

Just dominate.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's like. If we think about where we compare it to. Yeah, that's what. Cause I'm Eddie's. Like, how much fun would be. I'd be like, man, if I could just take a bunch of six year olds, just like, boom. But. But everybody thought I was also six.

[Eddie]

You ever see those videos of like the parent. The kids going against the parents in.

[Kevin]

Oklahoma drill and the parents killing one of the mascots?

[Bobby Bones]

I like it when the moms. The moms. All right, you guys have a great rest of the day. Thank you for listening. And Eddie, blow the whistle. We will see you guys early next week. Bye, guys. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials randonray music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host, produce ready, segment producer at Kickoff Kevin and executive producer at Mike Gistro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 whistle. This is an Iheart podcast.