25W: Bobby Justified Calling Packers A Laughing Stock + Dot Richardson(Liberty Softball Head Coach) on their Historic Upset over No. 1 and Winning An Olympic Gold Medal

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show - Episode 25W Summary

Release Date: May 23, 2025
Title: Bobby Justified Calling Packers A Laughing Stock + Dot Richardson (Liberty Softball Head Coach) on their Historic Upset over No. 1 and Winning An Olympic Gold Medal

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1. Introduction to Episode 25W

In this episode of The Bobby Bones Show, host Bobby Bones and co-hosts Eddie and Mike D dive into a rich mix of sports discussions, including the recent NFL playoff format vote, significant changes in college football playoffs, the passing of Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay, and an exclusive interview with Dot Richardson, the esteemed head coach of Liberty Softball. Richardson shares insights into Liberty's historic upset over the No. 1 seeded Texas A&M and reflects on her remarkable journey, which includes winning an Olympic gold medal.

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2. NFL Playoff Format Vote and the Packers' Stance

The show kicks off with a heated discussion about the NFL's recent decision to maintain the existing playoff seeding system, which automatically grants division winners a top-four seed and home games regardless of their regular-season records. This decision notably affects weaker divisions like the NFC South, where teams with mediocre records can secure advantageous playoff positions.

Notable Quotes:

• Eddie (05:15): "They voted no to that. So they're keeping the old style."
• Bobby Bones (05:22): "I mean, you know, if your team is in that division, I get it, like, cool. You win the division even though your division's terrible. You get in the playoffs. Good for you."
• Eddie (07:35): "It is mostly playing against it. More than just doing it."

The conversation highlights the irony of the NFL's approach, particularly focusing on the Green Bay Packers' reluctant support against the controversial 'tush push' play, which was perceived as a concession to maintain harmony within the league's divisional structures.

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3. College Football Playoff System Overhaul

Transitioning to college football, the hosts discuss the NCAA's decision to revamp the College Football Playoff (CFP) seeding system. The new approach shifts away from guaranteeing top seeds to conference champions, promoting a more merit-based seeding system that emphasizes overall team performance.

Notable Quotes:

• Eddie (10:27): "After some much deserved first-year criticism, the College Football playoff seeding system has changed. The fall of CFP will switch to straight seeding as opposed to giving the top four seeds to the four highest-ranked conference champions as it was done last year."
• Eddie (11:20): "It's going to benefit the ACC the absolute worst. Other than a non-power five that gets in."

The hosts debate the implications of this change, particularly how it disadvantages the ACC and potentially limits opportunities for non-Power Five schools unless they achieve exceptional records.

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4. Tribute to Jim Irsay, Indianapolis Colts Owner

The show takes a somber tone as Eddie announces the passing of Jim Irsay, the longtime owner of the Indianapolis Colts. Irsay's legacy is discussed, highlighting his role in relocating the team from Baltimore to Indianapolis and leading the franchise to a Super Bowl victory in 2007.

Notable Quotes:

• Eddie (17:04): "The longtime owner of the Indianapolis Colts has died, the team announced on Wednesday. So it's Friday now, been a couple days. He passed away peacefully in his sleep in the afternoon."
• Eddie (17:55): "He had spent in 2002, $900,000 on the Jerry Garcia guitar... it was worth like 7 or 8 million dollars."

The discussion extends to Irsay's passion for music memorabilia, particularly his collection of Jerry Garcia guitars, reflecting his multifaceted personality beyond football.

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5. Exclusive Interview with Dot Richardson, Liberty Softball Head Coach

The centerpiece of the episode is an in-depth interview with Dr. Dot Richardson, the head coach of Liberty Softball. Richardson, a medical doctor and a hall-of-famer, shares her inspiring story and Liberty's groundbreaking victory over the top-seeded Texas A&M in the recent tournament.

Key Highlights from the Interview:

• Richardson's Dual Career:
  Richardson discusses balancing her roles as a coach and a medical doctor. Her academic accomplishments include a master's degree and a medical degree from the University of Louisville.
  Dot Richardson (27:19): "I'm just so humble and honored to be a part of the team that is the strongest team we've ever had to this point."

• Historic Upset Over Texas A&M:
  Richardson recounts the strategic decisions and emotional resilience that led Liberty Softball to defeat Texas A&M, marking the first time a number one seed did not advance past the first round in the history of the tournament.
  Dot Richardson (29:20): "We've already beaten them once. Let's take them down again."

• Faith and Leadership:
  A significant portion of the conversation delves into how Richardson's faith guides her coaching philosophy, emphasizing trust in divine plans and fostering a supportive team environment.
  Dot Richardson (34:39): "When you give it your best, your best is good enough, right? You can't give any more."

• Future Ambitions:
  Looking ahead, Richardson expresses optimism about Liberty's prospects in the upcoming battles against Oregon and their momentum as they advance to the super regionals.
  Dot Richardson (43:06): "We're going into battle... Let's have a blast. Rip the COVID off the ball, stay together."

Notable Quotes:

• Bobby Bones (26:03): "That's awesome."
• Dot Richardson (31:38): "They have just building a legacy."
• Dot Richardson (39:56): "I knew it was enough for us to make history, to capture the first ever Olympic gold medal for the sport of softball."

Insights and Conclusions:

Dr. Dot Richardson's narrative provides a powerful testament to perseverance, strategic excellence, and the importance of faith in achieving extraordinary outcomes. Her leadership not only propelled Liberty Softball to historic victories but also serves as an inspirational model for integrating personal values with professional aspirations.

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6. Additional Sports Discussions

Beyond the main topics, the hosts briefly touch upon ongoing NBA playoffs, sharing their enthusiasm and promoting DraftKings Sportsbook as the official sports betting partner of the NBA, offering listeners opportunities to enhance their betting experience.

Notable Quotes:

• Eddie (14:23): "They won again last night. Yeah, they did. I'm feeling good."
• Bobby Bones (49:32): "Danger, that was a crazy ending."

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7. Closing Remarks

The episode wraps up with well wishes for the upcoming games, a reminder to listeners about Memorial Day, and gratitude towards their audience. Bobby Bones encourages fans to stay engaged with the sport and community, hinting at future exciting developments as Liberty Softball progresses towards the College World Series.

Notable Quotes:

• Eddie (51:34): "I hope you guys have a great weekend. Thank you for listening."
• Bobby Bones (52:15): "Was that better?"

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Conclusion

Episode 25W of The Bobby Bones Show offers a compelling blend of sports analysis, heartfelt tributes, and inspirational storytelling. Through engaging dialogue and insightful interviews, the show not only keeps listeners informed about the latest developments in football and basketball but also highlights the extraordinary achievements of individuals like Dot Richardson. This episode stands out as a testament to the show's commitment to delivering rich, meaningful content that resonates with both avid and casual sports fans.

Transcript

[Bobby Bones]

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[Eddie]

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[Eddie]

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[Mike D]

This is a podcast called 25 Whistles.

[Eddie]

And they all wear a whistle yet.

[Mike D]

Stupid. But what did you expect?

[Eddie]

It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. Hey, everybody. All right. Blow it. God, was that loud?

[Bobby Bones]

Is that loud?

[Eddie]

Well, I just want to say this. We usually do this show late Thursday afternoon, and we may have an interview on Friday. So we'll do the show sometimes we'll finish it on Friday. We are doing this show before we do the Friday morning radio show. It was so.

[Bobby Bones]

It's early.

[Eddie]

Way early. And that was even louder because it's so early.

[Bobby Bones]

You know what's crazy is that when I was a lifeguard, I learned how to really blow a whistle.

[Eddie]

You have so much energy right now, the fact that it's so early in the morning.

[Bobby Bones]

Maybe that's why I respect it.

[Eddie]

But holy crap.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. So, like, you can easily blow a whistle, like, very softly. But I think since I was a lifeguard, man, I blow it full.

[Eddie]

Yeah, but you've not blown it as full before. I'm gonna be honest.

[Bobby Bones]

Not true.

[Eddie]

It is.

[Bobby Bones]

I always blow it.

[Eddie]

That's not your reputation. So, hello. This is the earliest we've ever done this show in the history of the show. But that's okay. We have a lot to talk about. I do want to start with college football and the NFL. They voted on very similar things. One voted in a way that I like. One voted in a way I didn't like. Now, NFL went to the vote, and they voted on a lot of stuff, but they voted on playoffs. So the NFC south has always been a pretty weak division. Or not always, but the last five or six years. And whomever wins the NFC south or even the AFC south, they get an automatic four seed. Usually. Yeah, they definitely aren't getting the buy, but they're automatically. They get a home game. The NFL voted to re kind of reseed and by record the top teams.

[Bobby Bones]

Would get the home games no matter if you win your division.

[Eddie]

Yeah. So if, like, you were 8 and 9 and 8, 8 and 9 Tampa team who won the NFC south, you wouldn't go in as the 4 seed and get a home game because you were freaking 8 and 9.

[Bobby Bones]

Love it.

[Eddie]

They voted no to that. So they're keeping the old style.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Don't love it.

[Eddie]

Well.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, you know, if your team is in that division, I get it, like, cool. You win the division even though your division's terrible. You get in the playoffs. Good for you.

[Eddie]

It is weird when a 9 and 8 team gets in over an 11 and 6 team because the 9 and 18 played in a terrible division.

[Bobby Bones]

Right.

[Eddie]

I understand why the owners voted to keep it the same. I actually kind of like it. You win your division, you get one of the top four seeds, you get a home game. It's like, win your division, get a home game in the playoffs. I don't mind it. Does it feel a little clunky? Yes, but. Okay, I'm with it. They did vote down the tush push. No.

[Bobby Bones]

No. They voted in.

[Eddie]

No, get this, though. This is what I want.

[Bobby Bones]

Good.

[Eddie]

They voted to continue. Let the to continue.

[Bobby Bones]

We're good.

[Eddie]

Barely. It'll be dead next year.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh.

[Dr. Maya Shankar]

Why?

[Eddie]

But what. What I was going to say was they voted. The NFL got Green Bay to go in and be the one to say, please say you don't like the tush push.

[Bobby Bones]

Really? They told them so. Was it not Green Bay's. Green Bay's decision to do that?

[Eddie]

I'm going to read you this. Oh, man, this is hilarious. Because I made fun of the packers so much for being the team that raised their hand and like, we don't like the tush push. We're. It hurts.

[Bobby Bones]

I remember this.

[Eddie]

So now that the Eagles get to keep the tush push. This is from Pro Football Talk and Mike Florio. Mike Florio said that the league, quote, asked the packers to do it, and the packers took one for the team.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang.

[Eddie]

A source claims that most in Green Bay's organization don't care about the play either way. But it left the team appearing to have sour grapes after losing to the Eagles twice last season. So for whatever reason, the NFL wanted to play gone, but decided that someone else should own the decision to raise the issue. That's hilarious. I did two whole episodes of, like, calling them little weenie babies.

[Bobby Bones]

We did. I remember that.

[Eddie]

Oh, it hurts when Jalen does that.

[Bobby Bones]

We're even, like, dang. Out of all the teams, you're going.

[Eddie]

To be the winners. They play in cold weather. They're supposed to be hardcore. So tush push remains. But the packers had to be the wieners. Dang.

[Bobby Bones]

And I don't know who to believe anymore now.

[Eddie]

Well, and they almost lost. Next year, I think they'll lose. So many teams just don't care. They don't play the Eagles. AFC teams don't play the Eagles. They released a list of teams that voted for and against it.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Eddie]

Yeah. And I don't have the list with me. But, like, the Titans, they didn't vote against it.

[Bobby Bones]

They don't do it.

[Eddie]

They don't play the Eagles.

[Bobby Bones]

Right. They don't play the Eagles. I mean, and that's the thing too, right? Like, not everyone does it. It's really just the Eagles.

[Eddie]

Yeah, but it's mostly playing against it. More than just doing it.

[Bobby Bones]

Sure. But I mean, now that we passed it, the only team that really advant it has the advantage here is the Eagles. The rest of the NFL really doesn't.

[Eddie]

Because they don't do it like Baltimore does it with Mark Andrews.

[Bobby Bones]

They try to do it.

[Eddie]

Yeah, but they do, like. So there. There are a few teams that do it. Otherwise, it's just called a quarterback sneak.

[Bobby Bones]

Right.

[Eddie]

The tush push is just with a little hot sauce on the quarterback. Or it's like when Mark Andrews does it, he comes in motion. They're in shotgun formation. He gets under center and then goes. That's probably. If I were a team, the way I would do it instead of getting my quarterback hurt. But Jalen hurts is so freaking strong. Squats 900 pounds like a truck. Yeah. So. And then there were rumors that came out that Jason Kelce got hurt and retired because of the tush push.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang. Really?

[Eddie]

That he didn't say that because he didn't want to hurt the Eagles organization for doing it, but that. That's one of the reasons he retired, is that he tush pushed so many times. And then he came out and said, I'd get back in the league if I could just do 600 tush pushes. So again, who do you believe?

[Bobby Bones]

That sounds so funny. But, yeah, I mean, he was the. He was the first dude. He was the main guy of the tush push.

[Eddie]

He was. And we think It's Jaylen who's probably really the main guy, but he is. Yeah. The center of it doesn't have a name for the most part.

[Bobby Bones]

So is he the most famous sinner that we know? Like I don't know. Another center. I mean I probably do, but probably.

[Eddie]

And for two reasons. One, recency. And two, because Taylor Swift.

[Bobby Bones]

Right. And Travis.

[Eddie]

But that's why Taylor. With Travis. Travis would. Because I think people outside of football wouldn't have even known Travis really. Unless you're a. If you're a football fan, you knew Travis Kelsey. But if you were just a casual, you probably. You didn't know Travis Kelsey.

[Bobby Bones]

No, not at all. Really.

[Eddie]

And so if you didn't know Travis, you didn't know Jason Kelsey. They played against each other in the super bowl which was really what made their podcast pop at very first. But again to even listen to their podcast at first you had to be a big NFL fan because they didn't have mass appeal. Because of Taylor. Taylor is why Jason Kelce and his wife are so famous. Not that they're not talented, but Taylor is why all the Kelsey's have this massive career. They deserve it because they're really good. She can give them an opportunity but she can't create their talent and their sustainability which they have. And I think she may be the most. Not Taylor. Jason Kelsey's wife, maybe the most talented of them all.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, she's funny.

[Eddie]

So Kylie Kelsey. Right, Kylie. Yeah. So okay. NFL said no change to the playoffs. NFL said keep the tush push. So everything's staying the same. College football, they are changing their playoff format.

[Bobby Bones]

Still doing 12.

[Eddie]

Yes, but. And they did the right thing. They said we're not just giving the conference championship the buys. We are going to see them as is. Because you saw last year. Boise.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Eddie]

Get a buy and then get ran. So this is from espn. After some much deserved first year criticism, the College Football playoff seeding system has changed. The fall of CFP will switch to straight seeding as opposed to given the top four seeds to the four highest ranked conference champions as it was done last year. ACC commissioner Jim Phillips acknowledged there's a responsibility to serve our constituents while also being mindful of what's best for college football. Phillips said the decision was made in the best interest of the sport even though it may not always benefit the acc. Oh yeah, no it is not going to benefit the acc.

[Bobby Bones]

No it's not. Cuz you're.

[Eddie]

It's going to benefit the ACC the absolute worst. Other than a non power five that gets in. Because you're going to see two or three SEC teams be in that top three. You're going to see. Now there's only four spots. I get it. But you're going to see two Big Ten teams be in it. Possibly a Big 12 team be in it. I know that's six spots, but I think that'll move a little bit. Unless an ACC team goes 11, 1, 12, 0 ACC doesn't get a spot and neither does the non power 5 school.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow.

[Eddie]

Even going undefeated.

[Bobby Bones]

Wow.

[Eddie]

It's going to be really tough for that to happen. But I agree with that because what we saw, we saw a couple really good first round games and they got to that second round game where the game should be better and then 100 and nothing.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep.

[Eddie]

Just terrible games.

[Bobby Bones]

And then those, those like Boise State had a buy, right? Like they had a first week buy.

[Eddie]

They did, yeah. That's what I just said. Like 15 seconds. I know it's early, man.

[Bobby Bones]

It is early, but. Okay, so that buy. Yeah. Okay, I see what you're saying. Got it. Carry on.

[Eddie]

So teams like Boise State will no longer get to buy if they're not thought of as one of the biggest four teams. They'll play one of the first round games because somebody will come out of the non Power 5 schools every year and they will not get a buy unless they go undefeated and play two, I'll say two power five schools that are ranked schools. They will not even be considered for the buy. So I think the NFL is different because those teams are like we'll say 8 and 9. We'll use a bad Tampa Bay team that wins the NFC south if they win their division. We've seen that team actually win in the playoffs.

[Bobby Bones]

Sure.

[Eddie]

Because the NFL, there's so much parody.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep.

[Eddie]

Not near as much parity in college, although there's becoming a little more now that NIL exists and the transfer portal. But it is definitely different. But those were the big changes that we've seen so far.

[Bobby Bones]

So you like the college change?

[Eddie]

I do, yeah. I wish they would have outlawed the tush push. I hate it. It's not fun. I don't care about the. It's unfair. Okay. What's fair? Some players. Some teams have bigger players than others. That's not.

[Bobby Bones]

Some are faster than others.

[Eddie]

They run faster.

[Bobby Bones]

Some have more money than others.

[Eddie]

It ain't fair. Yeah, but it's just boring.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

And so I think that's why the NFL wanted it to die. Just for entertainment value. Because the NFL knows They're a television show and it will die. Just not this year. Or what's going to happen is they're going to wait for one person to get injured and then go in these meetings and go. We cannot continue this because people are getting injured doing it. So the Eagles have to like how quarterbacks would come out and act like they didn't have concussions. They'd learn how to answer the questions even if they had a concussion so they could stay in the game. The tush push, guys, when they get injured, they're going to have to blame it on something else real quick. Dehydration. Yeah, they're dehydrated. They have to get in the tent and get their leg wrapped up.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Shay won the MVP a couple days ago. What was cool, though, he bought all his teammates Rolexes after the win.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang, that's so cool.

[Eddie]

When an NBA player wins the mvp, the entire team wins. Especially it's from Barstool after Shay wins because he got everybody Rolexes as a thank you. They were awesome. They were all. Most of them are like blue or silver.

[Bobby Bones]

KC colors.

[Mike D]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

They won again last night.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, they did. I'm feeling good.

[Eddie]

I watched the first half before I fell asleep.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, you fell asleep?

[Eddie]

Yeah. I mean, I don't have ventures for game two of the.

[Bobby Bones]

The Western games. They're late, dude, I get it. They're later than the Eastern games, but I think maybe even an hour by just an hour.

[Eddie]

But still, I felt like I could have gutted it out. It was close at halftime.

[Bobby Bones]

It was.

[Eddie]

Yeah, it was close. And I was like, oh, man, I may not be able to cover here the seven and a half. They did cover.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes.

[Eddie]

But Oklahoma State looks really good.

[Bobby Bones]

They do, man.

[Eddie]

Now they got to go to Minnesota. I do think Minnesota picks up one of the next couple of games, right?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I think. I think so. I mean, I joke around. It's going to be four now, but I think Minnesota wins one somewhere in there. Probably one of these two, I would say. I think ideally it'd be this next one.

[Eddie]

I think the NBA really needs Anthony Edwards to not be embarrassed. And a 40 sweep is embarrassing.

[Bobby Bones]

That is embarrassing.

[Eddie]

The league's arguably biggest star. That's not LeBron or Steph or KD. Like arguably the biggest current ver slash next star.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, is this MVP raise Shay over?

[Eddie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Anthony Edwards a little bit?

[Eddie]

No, Shay shouldn't won the mvp. Jokic should have won the mvp. But Jokic has a bit of Bill Belichick, Angelina Jolie. Bobby bone show syndrome. When you win everything, nobody wants you to win everything.

[Bobby Bones]

Gotcha.

[Eddie]

And so then you're held out forever and then you start to get pissed off. Jokic should have been the mvp. Shea had an awesome season. Like really one of the best point guard type seasons in the last five to seven years. And I say that because I just watched a whole that I would quote it and source it, but I don't know what I watched. But Yokish had a better season, so yeah, pretty cool. I like this under a lot. I'm glad Shea won it, but man, Shay just foul hunts too much.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he does. I mean, I think what's going to win it for OKC is their defense. Their defense is so good.

[Eddie]

Dude, Caruso is a Caruso.

[Bobby Bones]

What is happening?

[Eddie]

He came off the bench. I only watched the first half. He came off the bench.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, he kept it going. He kept it going.

[Eddie]

Yeah, played like 13 minutes. He had seven points when I turned it off. But he. He played defense on Jokic in the last series. Caruso, basically a number two or a small number three.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep. Funny looking dude.

[Eddie]

Headband on a bald head for a white dude.

[Bobby Bones]

Love it. Yeah, I love every bit of it.

[Eddie]

Crazy. One other story here for a second. Jim Marce died. He is the Colts owner. This is a couple days ago.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

And Jim Marseille, lots of stories about him. Good, bad, indifferent and how he owned that team. And there's so much isn't about that. But I will do a little official paragraph before I talk about something I found really interesting. The longtime owner of the Indianapolis Colts has died, the team announced on Wednesday. So it's Friday now, been a couple days. He passed away peacefully in his sleep in the afternoon. The billionaire inherited the Colts from his father who bought the team when they were still based in Baltimore and moved them to Indianapolis. And the organization went on to win a Super bowl in 2007 with Peyton Manning at quarterback. Then he goes through a lot of stuff that's from TMZ Sports.

[Bobby Bones]

Huge music guy. Right.

[Eddie]

Well, so then that's what I'm going to get to. He had a museum that he traveled. Like he moved it around. And he had spent I think in 2002, $900,000 on the Jerry Garcia guitar.

[Bobby Bones]

That was Grateful Dead, by the way.

[Eddie]

I think the one that he had had a monkey on it. Will you look it up, Mike?

[Bobby Bones]

Like a picture of a monkey on the guitar.

[Eddie]

So Jerry Garcia had like seven guitars and all them were specifically lightning bolt monkey donkey. Those aren't right, but they what was it? It was a tiger. Okay. The tiger guitar.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Eddie]

And if you don't mind pulling up all the Jerry Garcia because it. Because he has like seven. But the tiger was the most played Grateful Dead guitar.

[Bobby Bones]

Really?

[Eddie]

And he had it. And again, didn't pay a million bucks for it back in, I think, 02 or 07 one of those years. But now it's worth like 7 or 8 million dollars. But that was like his most prized possession.

[Bobby Bones]

That's amazing.

[Eddie]

And he had. His museum was robust with music history.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

When you have billions of dollars and you love music. Like, I don't have billions of dollars, but I have a decent amount of money now. And I love sports memorabilia. I got a bunch of cool crap.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Imagine that on steroids.

[Bobby Bones]

You'd buy everything.

[Eddie]

So you see anything else about it, Mike? That's all I'm seeing. But yeah, he had different animals. Alligator, a wolf. Jerry Garcia, not John. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

The guitars that his. His little museum came to Nashville, I don't know, maybe like five years ago.

[Eddie]

Did you go?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I got invited to go, and I just didn't go because our friend Jeff Gorman, who used to have a sports show, he. He does media relations now for the Colts, loved Jim Mercy. He even tweeted. I saw a tweet that he tweeted the other day that said it's pretty. It was pretty cool. He was really close to him. He said, I can't find it. But he said something like, whatever you heard about Jim, his kindness, his sweetness, whatever, How. How awesome he was, multiply times a thousand. Like, he really loved Jim Irsay. He traveled everywhere with Jim Irsay. So he had a lot of really close.

[Eddie]

So we're gonna come back in a second. Hey, what'd you think of this interview with. Because it's the first time. Huh?

[Bobby Bones]

Aaron Rodgers. What are you talking about?

[Eddie]

Dot Richards.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, gotcha. I thought you were talking about Aaron Rodgers.

[Eddie]

No. On Joe Rogan.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. I didn't listen to it.

[Eddie]

I watched some clubs and I was.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, eh, this guy. Yeah. No. Okay, good.

[Eddie]

What'd you think of the interview with Dot Richardson?

[Bobby Bones]

Awesome, dude. I mean, I feel. I felt bad she didn't have her. She lost her voice. But hey, she's in the middle of important games right now. Didn't have a voice. But she's. Dude, she makes me want to play softball and play softball for her.

[Eddie]

So we haven't. Except for maybe years ago, we had Patty Gaso on, who has won multiple national championships at Oklahoma. And I don't even think that was for this show, right? On this show. I don't think we've ever had a softball coach on. I can't remember so. And I think I would be like, oh, a softball coach if I'm just a regular listener.

[Bobby Bones]

However, she's awesome.

[Eddie]

Yeah, she's a medical doctor, too.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep.

[Eddie]

That's all I'm gonna say. Give it a shot.

[Bobby Bones]

I think people will love this.

[Eddie]

I think people will love this interview, too. Give it a shot. Coach. Dot Richardson, Liberty head coach, Liberty University, who just beat Texas A and M and Texas A and M was the overall number one seed. That has never happened in the history of the tournament where the number one overall seed did not come out of the first round. Liberty did it, but it's not even about that. I think you're gonna love the interview. We'll do that coming up next. The NBA playoffs are underway and it's wild. All the high stakes drama, insane buzzer beaters, jaw dropping dunks, and guess what? DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NBA, is giving you a chance to boost your winnings with an NBA profit boost every single game. Every single game, all playoffs long. Check out the app for the day's special boost. The boost is easy. It's just a benefit to you. Don't miss out. It's time to cash in while the action heats up. Man, it's getting great right now. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use the code one word Bobby Sports. That's the code. Bobby Sports to get your profit boost for every NBA playoff game. Only on DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

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[Dr. Maya Shankar]

This podcast is sponsored by Talkspace. May is Mental health Awareness Month and Talkspace, the leading virtual therapy provider, is telling everyone let's face it in therapy. By talking or texting with a supportive licensed therapist at Talkspace, you can face whatever is holding you back, whether it's mental health symptoms, relationship drama, past trauma, bad habits, or another challenge that you need support to work through. It's easy to sign up. Just go to talkspace.com and you'll be paired with a provider, typically within 48 hours. And because you'll meet your therapist online, you don't have to take time off work or arrange childcare. You'll meet on your schedule. Plus, Talkspace is in network with most major insurers and most insured members have a zero dollar copay. Make your mental health a priority and start today. If you're not covered by insurance, get $80 off your first month with Talkspace when you go to talkspace.com and enter promo code SPACE80. That's S P A CE80. To match with a licensed therapist today, go to talkspace.com and Enter promo code SPACE80.

[Andrea Gunning]

I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all his wife Caroline.

[Eddie]

He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me.

[Andrea Gunning]

Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes. He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community.

[Mike D]

She said you left bruises, pulled her.

[Eddie]

Hair, that type of thing.

[Bobby Bones]

No?

[Andrea Gunning]

How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done?

[Mike D]

You're unable to keep track of all your lies and quite frankly, I question how many other women may bring forward allegations in the future.

[Andrea Gunning]

This season of Betrayal investigates one officer's decades of deception, lies that left those closest to him questioning everything they thought they knew. Listen to betrayal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Debbie Brown]

Giving yourself that agency to not just be one thing, right? I don't have to be the perception that is crafted or the version of me that everyone is kind of projecting onto me. Like I am having my human experience. Experience. And it is faceted. It's so faceted and it's fascinating. May is Mental Health Awareness Month and Deeply well is a sanctuary for your healing. I'm Debbie Brown, healer, well being, expert teacher and fellow seeker. And each week we explore what it means to become whole through soul expanding conversations and practices. Why focus on Tiny Joys? Well, because they remind us of what it means to be human. They anchor us in the present moment and they create ripples of gratitude that nourish our spirit. Tiny Joys are acts of self love. To hear this and more ways to prioritize your peace. Listen to Deeply Wow. From the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get Your podcasts at and T. Connecting changes everything.

[Eddie]

All right, we're about to have coach Dot Richardson on. We don't have a lot of softball coaches on, if I'm being honest. I think we had coach Gasso, Patty Gasso on once. She's won four national championships in a row. But a little bit about coach Dot Richardson. She's actually a medical doctor as well, which is crazy, because after she had finished playing ball and she's in, like, the UCLA Athletics hall of Fame, she's in the USA Softball hall of Fame. She then went and got a master's, and then she got her medical degree from the University of Louisville. So she's a coach. She's a doctor. She's kind of the most interesting per. Not a man, but, you know, the most interesting man in the world person in the world. She's won two Olympic gold medals. The first time ever that. The first ever gold medal in softball. She won it. She hit the home run.

[Bobby Bones]

That's awesome.

[Eddie]

It won the game. I think even if you're like softball, I think you're just gonna love this interview with coach Richardson. She's the head coach at Liberty. They last week beat Texas A and M. Texas A and M was the number one overall seed, and the number one overall seed has never not got out of the regionals. And Liberty took them down. For the first time ever, a team not number one is going to super regionals. So did you watch the game? I watched all three of them because there are four games. Four teams. I watched all three of their games. And so I reached out and was like, hey. And they had to fly from Liberty University.

[Bobby Bones]

Is that Virginia?

[Eddie]

Yeah. Wow. Across the whole country to Eugene, Oregon.

[Bobby Bones]

That's tip to tip.

[Eddie]

We went from Nashville to Eugene, and we won. And we were like, this sucks. It's too long.

[Bobby Bones]

This is terrible.

[Eddie]

So, yeah, I'm just gonna throw her on because I'm a big fan. Here she is, head coach of Liberty softball coach Dot Richardson. Coach, I am honored to speak with you and for a couple reasons. One, my family loves you. They love you so much. And secondly, do the people call you Dr. Coach, or, like, how does that work? Because you are a MD Medical doctor and a coach. Do you ever get called Dr. Richardson?

[Mike D]

Sometimes I do, yes. But usually it's just coachee or Coach Dot.

[Eddie]

That's the coolest coach flex in the. And we coach. We've been all over the country with. With coach Lanning at Oregon, where you are now to. We've been everywhere, and not one Single coach has been a doctor. But you. So this is really cool. And I want to start with because you guys are in Oregon now. That is got to be a long trip for you guys, right?

[Mike D]

Yeah, it sure was. But you know, how exciting to be here. We're excited to be in the super regionals. And my voice is gone. I apologize. But boy, we gave everything we got in the battle against Texas A and M. So we're blessed to be here.

[Eddie]

Did you guys have to. I'm assuming. I'm hoping they flew. They chartered you guys, they fly. You guys charter over.

[Mike D]

They were able to charter 30 of us, so we had another 10 that had to find their way here. Commercial.

[Eddie]

So did they have to stop for gas? Like, I think that's long enough. They may have to refuel. Do they have to refuel, you guys?

[Mike D]

Yes, we refilled in South Dakota.

[Eddie]

That's crazy that all the way across the country, like all the way from the east coast over to Eugene, Oregon. I want to take a second because I watched all three of your games against Texas A and M. We are a softball family. From Patty or Coach Gasso to dj, my brother in law. We are a softball family. And so watch. The first win was like, that's crazy. What watched when you guys had the lead and I want to go to the second game when you have the lead and Texas A and M ends up winning that game. And to me as a sports fan, I think, well, they just went through it and lost. I don't know if they're going to be able to fight through that third game. What do you say after you guys lose that, that first game to Texas A&M, but the second game you played, what do you say between games?

[Mike D]

Well, I said, ladies, we scored 11 runs against the number one seeded national team and we made six errors and we were right there to win. Even at the B at the end you saw bases loaded, full count. We had our opportunity. So it was like, ladies, it. You know what it proves that we can beat any team in the country. We've already beaten them once. Let's take them down again.

[Eddie]

In the history of regional, super regional, a number one seed has never fallen. You guys were the first team to ever do that. And so. And you're right, it was bases loaded. And I mean, they threw a ball, four, two, not to go back to a single pitch. Like they lost the game. You guys had won the game. If you let one pitch go by and you managed to come back and win that, that tiebreaker game to Move on. Did you feel like your girls had it in them? Did you feel like they needed to be pumped up to be put back into it? Because also, you know, you're. You're having to play back to back now.

[Mike D]

Well, you saw a little lull, you know, when we were down 03 in the third game, the IF championship game. But I knew that our team had it in him. I'm just so blessed because this team realizes that don't let the sport of. Of softball, you know, don't worship the sport of softball, but let softball be your worship. Back to the Lord. They've been given amazing talents, and just as the Lord says, like, trust them. The talents are meant to be shared. He put us at one of the biggest stages and we were able to just rely on that. And they relied on each other and just played the game. You could see they played with so much freedom. It was just so competitive. I loved every minute of it.

[Eddie]

Do you get nervous in game when it's a situation like that?

[Mike D]

Not nervous, really. Just end up praying, go to the Lord and, and not really praying for victory, just praying for just peace and competitive, you know, performances. Because when you give it your best, your best is good enough, right? You can't give any more. And that was when you can walk off the field with your head high knowing that you did that. And our girls did it. And there was so much talent, you know, on that field between Texas A and M and Liberty softball. The fans, the 12th man is the reason why my voice is like it like this right now. It was just so awesome. It was so inspiring. It was loud. You couldn't ask for just a feeling. Very close and similar to the World Series. It was a great game. But our girls are not looking in the past right now. They have got momentum and getting ready for the battle we have against Oregon coming up Friday and Saturday.

[Eddie]

I want to ask one more question about the past. And in that final game, you put in a pitcher that hadn't pitched at all during the series, and man, what energy she had. And you couldn't hear the announcers, but the announcers were like, well, she has. She struggles with her control. So why did you make the move to her? And was control often a problem? And what did she do different this time?

[Mike D]

Well, we actually were prepared to go with Escobar, Elena Escobar, the whole way. But when we went out there to try encourage her after home run was given up in two singles back to back, she just said she couldn't finish because how much Her Achilles was hurting. So it's kind of a God. God has a plan. And Yoder was ready. She's been really on the rise, I would say, to the end of the season. She even said it herself. She was throwing maybe 61, 62 last year. And she's been able to work on her form and her mindset. And she was hitting 68 and as a lefty when she came in, you guys, her first warm up pitch, she threw a ground ball to the Backstop and the 4 or 5,000, you know, Texas A and M fans were laughing at her, laughing. And she gave a little smirk. And I knew, no pun intended. The flame was lit. And I'm just so proud of her. I was proud of Elena as well. She threw over 400 pitches. She was the one with the most experience last year in the Georgia Regionals. We were one out away from making history for our program to get to the supers. And she had a lot to do with us getting there this year. But boy, to see. To see Yoder just be able to close it out like she did. A thriller, a nail biter. It was. It had everything, you guys, you could think of, from the ejection of a fan, you know, to the controversial calls of umpires, to the back to back speed and home runs. And it was so fun, wasn't it?

[Eddie]

It was awesome. And we watched again. I've never. I've watched Texas A and M play a bunch this year because they're in the sec, but I haven't spent a bunch of time watching Liberty play. And I watched all three of your games. And, and so the two questions, one about Escobar, when she came off, she was crying a bit. She was emotional. Is that because her Achilles was hurting her so bad and she wanted to stay in the game? Is that why?

[Mike D]

Yes, that's why. I mean, Elena was. She wanted to finish it out this her senior year. And you know, when you play games like that, you never know which way they're going to go. And so for her, she wanted to give it more. She gave it everything she got. And our plan was not to take her out, actually, but she recognized it was just too much. It just hurt her too much.

[Eddie]

You've been.

[Mike D]

It shows the competitiveness within her.

[Eddie]

Yeah. And I didn't know that's why it was. That makes a lot of sense. You've been at Liberty for, I guess, 12 years now because you started in 2013. Is your faith a big reason that you found Liberty to be such a great home for You?

[Mike D]

Oh, absolutely, without a doubt. I mean, I was asked to run for mayor, county commissioner, U.S. senate for the state of Florida. I thought the Lord's path for me at this time in my life was to be in politics. And so my husband and I were talking about it, and I said, okay, but I'm going to go to the Lord first. And as I did, I said, lord, just make it perfectly clear where you want me to be. The next morning, I got a phone call from the largest Christian university in the world, Liberty, from their athletic director, who asked me to coach. And at the end of the conversation, he said. I said, you know, I have never had coached in college before. I'm not sure if you realize that. So I'm definitely humbled by this opportunity. But he said, we realize that, but we feel the Lord is leading us to you. And everything that happened in the movement and the decision to do it, we just knew that the Lord had his hand on it. Very humble beginnings at Liberty. When I was there just 12 years ago to see the. The. The growth of the university, the support of athletics, I'm sure everybody has seen what Liberty's been able to do. Between football, basketball, you name it, field hockey, lacrosse, softball, baseball, just keep going on, you know, basketball. And we're just so supported there. But I think, you know, when the Lord is leading you, he tells you, you'll have this peace that transcends all understanding, because you might go a softball coach, but you guys, it's so awesome to be able to be at a university who just stands for training champions for Christ and to have Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, as the center of it all. I'm able to be able to just share my faith and also grow my faith, be able to evangelize, you know, to be able to help these young girls as they. They are brought to us by the Lord for different reasons. You know, it's more than just softball. And so to be able to help them find the answers, right? And that is. It's just been a blessing and to see it all come together each year, getting stronger and stronger, trusting the Lord more and more. He's faithful. And you guys, it's not just about winning. It's really about changing lives and be able to. To. You're either. Jesus said, you're either for me or against me, right? There's no lukewarm. So realize that Jesus paid it all. He paid it all on the cross for our debt. He died, gave his life up, buried three days, and rose from the dead to overcome Death which Satan had put on the world on humanity to try to screw up God's plan. We're meant to live forever. And so we are fallen people, we're all sinners and fall short of the, of the glory of God. But Jesus gave us a way to, to make it better, to get closer to the Lord. And when we stop just thinking about living our day to day life and those type of things, but have a soul searching, what is life really about? So through the sport of softball, God has been able to open that door for me to be able to just worship him in a way that he has given back so much to me through a sport I love so much to impact the lives of not just these young girls, but all who are walking, you know, watching and be an impact to really soul search. Enjoy the game, enjoy the competition. It's awesome. But there's a competition for our souls. So what team are you on? And we know the winning team, it's God. It's not Satan, the antichrist and false prophet and the demons and those that are non believers. So yeah, it's, it's so awesome to be able to be woken up if you would. When Covid hit, I just said what does the Lord say about this? There were even non believers that you probably know that we're like, what is going on? And God has given us the answers of what are going on. And so I just encourage everyone seek the answers, enjoy the life we've been given because that is a huge gift. But the biggest gift is and the biggest blessing is Jesus Christ paying it all for our debts and just accept him. And when you do, man, you're, you're just free. You know, your, your life has a whole nother meaning because we know there's more than just the life we have in this earth. So we'll be on a new earth, new heaven. And it's going to be exciting. And right now I just so humbled you guys. Just so humbled and honored to be a part of the team that is the strongest team we've ever had to this point. And they have just building a legacy.

[Eddie]

I have two final questions and one, if you'll indulge me for a second, you did hit the home run that won the gold medal in the gold medal game. That was you. You felt it. Do you remember feeling, do you remember feeling? Did the ball come off the bat as pure as when you hit a perfect golf shot? Do you remember the feeling of hitting that home run to win the gold medal?

[Mike D]

And I love Golf, too. And you're absolutely right. I had a humbling experience a few days earlier against the China national team, and they struck me out with bases loaded. And as I'm walking to the dugout, I realized, okay, she beat me this time. And how she beat me, you guys, with bases loaded, full count, a change up. Are you kidding me? My mind didn't even process she would throw a change up. So I just went to school, right? We're not losers if we're learning. So what happens? We've seen Team China in the gold medal game in the 1996 Olympics, and when I was at the bat with Laura Berg at first base, I had two balls and no strikes. And before I got into the batter's box, my. My thought was, okay, I know she's going to throw me a change up. It doesn't make any sense she's going to do it, but I know she's going to do it. Just learning from the past. And as I got into the batter's box, I just waited. I sat. I sat, change. And when she threw it, man, my eyes got this good. And I mean, I just waited and I waited. And to be honest, I just wanted to rip the COVID off of that ball so she would never, ever throw that pitch again. It was such a good pitch. And when I saw it off the bat, even though they say scientifically that's impossible, you're right. It felt connected. And when I saw that ball go, at least, I don't know, it's a foot or three feet to the fair side of the fair pole, my arm just went up in the air because I knew. I knew it was enough for us to make history, to capture the first ever Olympic gold medal for the sport of softball. And it was. And one of the thrilling moments of my athletic career. And there have been so many. And to be able to coach right now, where we're at, too, it's just another blessing.

[Eddie]

All right, last question. What do you say to your girls before the big three game series here?

[Mike D]

Ladies, we're going into battle. Oregon is. Is not. I mean, they're. They should be seated higher than 16. The last poll is 6, so they're very good squad. So we're going to be going into battle, and we've taken down number one. But guess what? It's all about being present. Zoom, focus, lock in, and let's have a blast. Rip the COVID off the ball, stay together. And really, we just need to play liberty softball. We're not going to look to the past. So it's just so fun to play. They love to play. I really don't have to say too much when you know you're doing a good job coaching, when you know you don't have to be the one that's inspiring them because their motivation and inspiration is coming from within. So they're going to trust the Lord, they're going to give it to him, and let's honor him. And all we say and do, go Flames. And go God.

[Eddie]

Right, Dr. Coach dot Richardson. Like, I feel like I've, I've been in the tent.

[Bobby Bones]

Is it too late for us to play for her?

[Eddie]

I know.

[Dr. Maya Shankar]

That's what I'm saying.

[Eddie]

Like, I'm ready. I'm ready right now. Hey, I hope you guys stay healthy and I hope you, you, you, you play hard and you're fulfilled. And that was amazing. I'm rooting for you guys. So hopefully at the end of the weekend, I don't know, we're, we're, we're, we're going to see in Oklahoma City that I'll be there, you'll be there, we'll all be there. That's the goal. Thanks for your time, coach. We really appreciate it.

[Mike D]

Thank you so much. God bless you guys. And go Flames.

[Eddie]

Good to see you, coach. Bye. The NBA playoffs are here. We're in the middle of it and it's gotten crazy. Insane buzzer beaters, big dunks. Guess what? DraftKings Sportsbook, an official betting partner of the NBA, is giving you a chance to boost your winnings with an NBA profit boost every single game. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app. Use the code Bobby Sports. One word. Bobby Sports. That's the code. Bobby Sports. To get your profit boost for every NBA playoff game, only on DraftKings, the crown is yours.

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[Dr. Maya Shankar]

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[Andrea Gunning]

I'm Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal. Police Lieutenant Joel Kern used his badge to fool everyone, most of all his wife, Caroline.

[Eddie]

He texted, I've ruined our lives. You're going to want to divorce me.

[Andrea Gunning]

Caroline's husband was living another life behind the scenes. He betrayed his oath to his family and to his community.

[Mike D]

She said you left bruises, pulled her.

[Eddie]

Hair, that type of thing. No?

[Andrea Gunning]

How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done?

[Mike D]

You're unable to keep track of all your lies, and quite frankly, I question how many other women may bring forward allegations in the future.

[Andrea Gunning]

This season of Betrayal investigates one officer's decades of deception. Lies that left those closest to him questioning everything they thought they knew. Listen to betrayal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Debbie Brown]

And it's going to take us to heal us.

[Bobby Bones]

It's Mental health Awareness Month, and on a recent episode of just heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey. So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort.

[Debbie Brown]

You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die. I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid. I laugh, you know, I love jokes. I love funny. I love laughing. I laugh at myself. I don't take myself too seriously. That's the stuff that keeps you young and stops you from being so Hard to hear this.

[Bobby Bones]

And more things on the journey of healing. You can listen to just heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast at.

[Mike D]

And T. Connecting changes everything.

[Eddie]

So while we're doing the show so early this morning is as soon as the radio show is over, I gotta fly to Fayetteville because they moved the game because of weather. It's not like a baseball game where they can just reschedule it later. It's super regionals. So if they win this best of three, they go to the College World Series, which they've never done before. But they moved the game to 11am.

[Bobby Bones]

And it was supposed to be when?

[Eddie]

7Pm Damn, that's crazy. So as soon as the show's over, I gotta go because I gotta get to Fayetteville and go to the game.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, teams like cram when it comes to that. Like, it's just like, oh, crap. Well, I mean, I was. We're going to do other things in practice now for the 7 o' clock game. Now it's 11. We're not ready. 7 o' clock.

[Eddie]

That's not what you said. What? I said your fantasy.

[Bobby Bones]

I didn't say that slipped there.

[Eddie]

You did. You did. You did.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, no.

[Eddie]

So day of, not a lot of practicing.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Eddie]

So yes and no. Like, dj, who's the heading coach at Arkansas, is just going through game tape when I'm there. If he's got a game the next day, it's what he's doing all night.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Making charts and graphs and watching tape. So day of, it's not that big of a deal. It just changes the schedule of when they got to wake up, when they eat, when they go. So. But we're gonna go and do that. Hopefully they'll have decent enough weather to play. But yeah, that's why we did the show extra early. It's not affecting you guys at all that are listening to it, but you get good seats. We don't really sit in seats. We either go out in the outfield because they have young kids that want to run around, or we go up into the coach's box and watch from up there. It just depends. If it's raining, we'll be in the coach's box.

[Bobby Bones]

They got food in there and stuff.

[Eddie]

Yeah, but not great food. What do you mean?

[Bobby Bones]

Hot dogs?

[Eddie]

No, it's not full concession. Oh, even in the stadium it's not full. Full concession.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Eddie]

But yeah, so we're going to go do That I hope everybody has a great weekend. Anything I'm forgetting, Mike? Anything I'm not doing? I think we're all good. We did NFL. We did college. The Knicks and Pacers play tonight. That was a crazy ending, by the way.

[Bobby Bones]

Crazy ending. I thought it was over. So did Halliburton.

[Eddie]

Well, I thought he did the. He did the choke. A little too early.

[Bobby Bones]

A little too early. Your foot was on the line, dude.

[Eddie]

Do you like him?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know. I really can't tell, dude. I can't tell because, like, I want to like him. But then I think what got me was the Post interview after that game. They were asking like, oh, you did the choke sign. And he, like, just said, yeah, I didn't really want to do it. They kind of made me do it. And then so I just decided to do it. And I'm like, make him do it. What are you talking about? Just own it. Like, you did it because you thought you won and your foot wasn't aligned and you had to go to overtime, and that could have been really bad.

[Eddie]

It could have been, but it wasn't.

[Bobby Bones]

It wasn't, dude. And I'm so glad that it wasn't, because as soon as he did it and they. And I didn't. The score didn't change. The score only tied up the game, and we're like, oh, that's weird. Why is it only tied? Then they showed the replay and like, oh, no, this is not good.

[Eddie]

They asked Rick Carlisle what he thought about Halliburton doing the choking, and he goes, you know what? He deserves to do whatever he wants.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh.

[Eddie]

Thought that's a pretty good answer by a coach.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Who probably was like, I wouldn't have done that. But, yeah, the choke. Because it's a Reggie Miller. It's a Reggie Miller reference. Which, by the way, the Pacers end up losing that series to the Knicks back in the day.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Even after he did the choke. But it wasn't Omar. Reggie was there. I think he was part of the broadcast.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, he's the. He's one of the analyst guys.

[Eddie]

And so, yeah, I was like, oh, no.

[Bobby Bones]

But, you know, like, just say, like, yeah, man.

[Eddie]

No, I mean, just him doing it that early when they didn't win the game.

[Bobby Bones]

I know, I know. But honestly, I thought it was the buzzer beater. I thought they won the game.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

But just like, he did.

[Eddie]

It was awesome. So I guess I'm rooting for the Pacers in that series.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you like Halliburton?

[Eddie]

I think if he, to me, is Pat Bev. Not how they play, but if he's on your team, you freaking love him.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

And if he's not, you're probably so annoyed by him, you secretly punch him in the nuts on your.

[Bobby Bones]

When you're.

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah. When you're. Yeah. And, like, you pinch him a little bit in the back whenever. So, yeah, he's fine.

[Bobby Bones]

I like the Pacers. I really do. I mean, I think it helped that we went to the Pacers and they let us.

[Eddie]

For sure. It helped with Miles Turner. For sure.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

I root for him big time.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Even though he was a Longhorn.

[Bobby Bones]

It's true. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Eddie]

Forgot I'm kind of a Longhorn hater. Yeah. I hope you guys have a great weekend. Thank you for listening. Thanks to coach Dot Richardson. Hopefully, just like this last time, when we come back and we do a show next week, the first show of the week, I'm like, we're going to the College World Series. Because that would be freaking awesome. Be the first time ever Arkansas's done it. You guys have a great weekend. I hope it's a long one. Hope you have a great Memorial Day. Hope you take a minute and remember what Memorial Day is all about. And then I hope you spend a lot of time with family and friends and really hope it's a special one. So thank you, and we will see you guys next week. All right. Blow, daddy. Oh, seven o' clock, Eddie.

[Bobby Bones]

Was that better?

[Eddie]

All right, bye, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones, that's me. And performed by Brandon Ray. Followers Brandon on Socials at BrandonRay Music. You can follow the show on Instagram @BobbyBoneSports. Thanks to our crew, co host, producereddy, segment producer Ickoff Kevin, video producer at Reed Yarberry, and executive producer at Mike Distro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles.

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