25W: Bobby's Hot Take Has Eddie Fired Up! + Why the Knicks Could Win the NBA Finals with Dan Woike + Texas Tech is the Death Star of College Softball

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show – "25W: Bobby's Hot Take Has Eddie Fired Up! + Why the Knicks Could Win the NBA Finals with Dan Woike + Texas Tech is the Death Star of College Softball"

Date: June 1, 2026
Host: Bobby Bones (with Kevin, Brandon, Eddie, Freddie, Jacob, Dan Woike)
Podcast: The Bobby Bones Show – 25 Whistles

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Episode Overview

This episode of 25 Whistles begins with Bobby’s commitment to providing the first 10 minutes as “sports-adjacent” for non-sports fans, resulting in a mix of headline-grabbing stories and playful banter. The main sports content kicks in with Bobby’s controversy-igniting take on Victor Wembanyama, Eddie’s defense, and a wide-ranging interview with NBA reporter Dan Woike dissecting the NBA playoffs, the Spurs, Knicks, Thunder, and player psychology. The latter half dives deep into the villainous rise of Texas Tech in college softball, NIL poaching controversies, and more bets-are-crazy gambling tales. The tone is loose, opinionated, and comedic, with plenty of authenticity.

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Non-Sports & Sports-Adjacent Open (02:16–17:04)

Hot Coffee Mishap in the Sky (03:11)

• Bobby opens with a story about a man who suffered burns from hot coffee on a flight—delving into a facetious discussion about flight attendant training and on-flight emergencies.
  • Quote: "Are they qualified to pull out a penis and put cream on it?" (Bobby, 04:13)
• Freddie relates it to the legendary McDonald’s hot coffee lawsuit, and debate ensues over the details and blame.

Youth Baseball Drama: "Justice for Braxton" (05:14)

• 12-year-old Little League pitcher suspended for 5 years (dad banned for life) after purposely throwing at the opposing dugout on dad’s instruction.
  • Quote: "The kid should not be suspended for five years. The kid was doing what his dad told him." (Bobby, 06:33)
• The group reflects on bad parenting, appropriate punishment, and the too-harsh consequences for the kid—a thread of empathy and criticism for the “loser dad” involved.

The Heart-on-Hand Parenting Habit (07:41)

• Kevin shares the “heart on the hand” tradition with his wife and son before school to provide comfort throughout the day; everyone jokes, then finds it touching.
  • Quote: “We draw a heart on each of our hands…if we miss each other, we just look at the heart and hug the heart.” (Kevin, 07:54)

Viral Tennis Controversy: Raphael Jodar & a Ball Girl (08:47)

• The group brings up a video showing Spanish tennis player Raphael Jodar allegedly shoving a ball girl—debunked on closer inspection as a misleading angle.
  • Quote: “The Internet just blows up on this dude...but he’s just walking off the court; it only looked like he nailed her.” (Bobby, 09:34)

Electric Car Tangent: Ferrari & VW Buses (10:33)

• New $700,000 Ferrari EV looks too much like a Corolla/Nissan Leaf, leading to jokes about branding, flex culture, and what people want in a luxury car.
  • Quote: "If I'm paying $700,000 for a car, don't put the large trunk in the first five things!" (Bobby, 11:47)
• Bobby discusses his hybrid and the value of practicality; everyone gets nostalgic about classic VW buses and their electric successors.
• Electric vehicle home charging tips.
  • Quote: “You have to basically put in...a washer and dryer type input.” (Bobby, 16:24)
• End of non-sports segment at [17:04].

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NBA Playoffs Hot Takes and Debates (19:02–29:19)

Bobby vs. Freddie: Is Wemby 'Just Tall'? (19:02)

• Bobby’s “controversial hot take”: “Wemby is good, but just tall,” suggesting Victor Wembanyama’s dominance wouldn’t exist if he were shorter.
  • Quote: “If he were 6'7", he’d just be a fair NBA player.” (Bobby, 19:14)
• Freddie and others push back, amazed by Wemby’s skill/movement for his size.
  • Quote: “He moves the way he does and plays the way he does...it’s amazing.” (Freddie, 20:04)

Thunder-Spurs, Health, and Dynasty Talk (21:17)

• Discussion of OKC’s health/injuries, why people are prematurely crowning the Spurs, and the bright future of both franchises.
• Bobby’s hierarchy of star picks: “If I were drafting from both those teams, Wemby first, Shay second, Harper third.” (22:52)
• Whether these young squads can stick together for a dynastic run.

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Celtics, Cornett, and College Softball Stories (23:29–36:20)

Celtics’ Luke Cornett, Magic City, and Arkansas Softball Heartbreak (23:29)

• Shout-out to Celtics backup Luke Cornett (and his off-court writing about NBA morality).
• Bobby narrates the dramatic Arkansas-Nebraska NCAA softball game, the late-night grind, and heartbreak—a sentimental moment for his father-in-law.

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NBA Finals: Knicks Contenders? Player Reactions (25:37–29:19)

• Freddie is convinced “the Knicks are nothing” against Spurs, but predicts an unexpectedly competitive series.
  • Quote: “I feel like the Spurs have it, but...it’s going to go seven games.” (Freddie, 25:51)
• Chet Holmgren’s Game 7 meltdown likened to pitcher Rick Ankiel’s infamous “yips”—mental block and vanishing confidence.

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Texas Tech: NCAA Softball's New Villain (32:12–42:02)

Texas Tech = Death Star (32:12)

• Bobby lays out the Texas Tech college softball saga:
  • Massive NIL spending ($2M+), aggressive transfer "poaching," accusations of dirty play (Jason Williams’ daughter beaned 5x), dramatic handshake line confrontation, and a player’s press conference lie about being insulted by her former coach.
  • Quote: “Texas Tech softball is the Death Star...they’re grabbing all the best players from all the best teams.” (Bobby, 32:36)
  • Quote: “Her dad has been all over social media…at some point he was talking about, ‘She got $750,000, that’s more money than you’ll ever make in your life…’” (Bobby, 36:20)
• Explains illegal "poaching," but legal NIL payments, and the wild-west feeling in NCAA recruiting.
  • Quote: “You can’t coax someone to get in the portal and transfer…but it’s happening all over the place.” (Bobby, 38:18)

Betting Drama (38:50)

• Story of a parlay bettor who won $1.7M on college basketball, Olympics hockey, Knicks, and Spurs reaching the NBA Finals, refusing cash-out offers.
  • Quote: “He hit for $1.7 million on a $2,500 bet.” (Bobby, 39:43)

Texas Tech Football Spat with Texas (40:25)

• Texas Tech booster offers to buy out non-conference matchups so Texas would be forced to play Texas Tech, following Sarkeesian’s claim that Texas’s backups could win Tech’s conference schedule.
  • Quote: “That’d be so cool—to have money make people hate you.” (Bobby, 41:19)
• The crew agrees: villains are fun if you’re not on the receiving end.

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NBA Playoff Analysis with Dan Woike – Main Sports Interview (44:45–64:32)

Chet Holmgren’s Struggles against Wemby (45:07)

• Woike analyzes Chet’s psychological and physical challenges facing Wembanyama: the daunting presence, “funhouse mirror version of yourself,” and Chet’s need to adapt to overcome his new rival.
  • Quote: "All of the advantages that he normally has, he doesn’t have against Victor Wembanyama...this is something he’s going to have to get over." (Dan Woike, 45:07)
• Bobby probes the perceived vendetta: “Did he just have this vendetta to kill the guy who beat him in 17-under basketball?” (Bobby, 46:54)
• Woike lauds not just Wemby’s skill, but his competitive pettiness and how he truly “cares”—breaking big-man stereotypes.
  • Quote: "Not only does he love basketball, he is committed to being the best player of all time. That’s the goal." (Dan Woike, 48:45)

Spurs-Thunder Future & NBA Evolution (51:20)

• Both franchises declared "light-years ahead" of the rest; cautionary tales about premature dynasties—injuries and changing circumstances can end potential runs.
• Deep dives into young player potential (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Castle, Harper), OKC’s possible next moves with all their draft assets, and whether a blockbuster trade is coming.
• Woike notes the “team over individual” culture in OKC, and the delicate chemistry of adding stars or changing the chemistry—potential need for another "big gun."

Knicks’ Finals Chances & Underrated Players (56:03)

• Woike provides the case for the Knicks—they may not have Wemby, but possess multiple top-tier contributors (Brunson, Anunoby, Towns).
  • Quote: “If the Spurs have the best player in the series and Victor Wemanyama, the Knicks might have 2, 3, 4...and you can win a series that way.” (Dan Woike, 57:05)
• Praises OG Anunoby as a "plug and play" guy NBA players love—his unselfishness and elite physicality.

Carl Anthony Towns' Attitude & LeBron’s Future (59:05)

• KAT’s revival framed as “unburdened” by franchise-cornerstone duties—can just play ball within Brunson’s team.
• LeBron situation: His desire to remain in LA, possible pay cut, team building around Luka Doncic, changing his role, and how rare his longevity really is.
  • Quote: “This summer, the priority is to build around Luka, that’s not a knock on LeBron James...” (Dan Woike, 62:14)
• Woike closes self-deprecatingly, joking about old age and sports analogies.

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Fun Closing Bits (64:43–65:43)

• Recaps of viral college baseball ejections for on-field celebrations—one pitcher’s “suck it” dance and a home-run celebrator tossed mid-trot.
• UCLA’s shocking early elimination as top seed (“Virginia losing to a 16-seed”).
  • Quote: "It’s literally what that was. It’s never happened before." (Bobby, 65:43)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If I was there and that was my kid, my team...it’s not good.” (Freddie on the youth baseball incident, 06:17)
• “Justice for Braxton!” (Kevin, playfully riffing on youth sports sentencing, 07:29)
• “Texas Tech softball is the Death Star...sports is more fun when we have villains.” (Bobby, 32:36/37:20)
• “We draw a heart on each of our hands...if we miss each other, we just look at the heart and hug the heart.” (Kevin, 07:54)
• “If he were 6’7”, he’d just be a fair NBA player.” (Bobby, 19:14)
• “All of the advantages Chet normally has, he doesn’t have against Wemby...this is something he’s going to have to get over.” (Dan Woike, 45:07)
• “Not only does he love basketball, he’s committed to being the best of all time.” (Dan Woike, 48:45)
• “If you just win, you become a villain. Wemby will become a villain at some point.” (Bobby, 42:02)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Sports-Adjacent & Stories — 02:16–17:04
• NBA Hot Take ("Wemby is just tall") — 19:02–21:27
• OKC/Spurs/Knicks/College Softball — 21:17–41:45
• Texas Tech is the Death Star — 32:12–42:02
• Dan Woike NBA interview — 44:45–64:32
• Viral College Baseball/Closing — 64:43–65:43

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Final Thoughts

The episode exudes the show’s trademark camaraderie, jabs, and respect for a good story—whether it’s a little league debacle, a viral sports video, or deep-cut NBA strategy. Texas Tech’s softball program and Wemby’s place in NBA history provide a thread connecting villainy, dominance, hype, and the cyclical nature of sports narratives. And as always, humor and heart break through the analysis, making even the absurd relatable and the dramatic feel personal.

Transcript

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It's the rage bait.

[Bobby Bones]

It feels like it's trying to divide people. If we got clear facts, maybe we

[Dan Woicke]

could calm down a little.

[Bobby Bones]

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[Freddie]

Let's meet at the facts.

[Bobby Bones]

Let's move forward from there.

[Dan Woicke]

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[Dan Woicke]

This is a podcast called 25 Whistles. Talking sports and they all wear a whistle yet stupid. But why did you expect. It's a podcast called 25 Whistles.

[Bobby Bones]

25 Whistles. Oh, blow that whistle. You know, it has come to my attention. I'd like to say hi to everybody who listens to this show who is not a sports fan. And what I would also like to say is I'm gonna give you guys a strong 10 minutes of non sports or sports adjacent at the beginning of every episode.

[Freddie]

Oh, that's nice.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, because we have a lot of listeners that would go, hey, yeah, I listen sometimes, but I don't really like sports. And I'm like, oh, my God, we must bore you. Like, I can recommend you four other podcasts to listen to.

[Jacob]

Thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. And feel free to hit me up in DMs and be like, hey, I don't really like sports that much, but I like listening to the show. So we're still going to talk sports, although sometimes we don't. But I like to give you a solid 10 at the beginning of sports or just not total sports. Like, nerd out. So I'd like to start with this one. Did you blow the whistle?

[Freddie]

I blew it.

[Bobby Bones]

We're on, baby.

[Freddie]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

It's me, Kevin, Brandon, and Eddie. A man says his life will never be the same again. After he was on a flight and he asked for some coffee, and the coffee was really hot and it burned his penis, like, bad.

[Freddie]

Bad.

[Bobby Bones]

Suffered severe burns to his penis when a cup of hot coffee spilled into his lap during a Virgin Atlantic flight from Las Vegas. He, 41, claims a lidless cup tipped over due to a slanted tray table, leaving him in excruciating pain and requiring treatment on board for blistering burns. Do you have to pull it out, like, if it's burning? Because the thing about flight attendants that I've learned from knowing a couple is that the job they're doing in the air isn't really the job they're paid to do. They are paid to do that job, but the job they're paid to do is any emergency that happens that hopefully doesn't happen that they are educated and qualified to do. So you don't want a flight attendant to have to do all the jobs they're qualified to do.

[Freddie]

I get that.

[Bobby Bones]

Are they qualified to pull out a penis and put cream on it? And do you do that there? You have to. Or does he just do it in the restroom?

[Freddie]

So they just give him the ointment and be like, all right, go handle it.

[Bobby Bones]

And then all of a sudden, you hear, that dude ain't fixing a burn.

[Freddie]

He's handling it.

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[Freddie]

Different cream.

[Bobby Bones]

Man.

[Freddie]

That's crazy, though. Like, see, back in the day, you know, there was that whole McDonald's lawsuit because somebody burned their lap on hot coffee. This guy owned the airline.

[Bobby Bones]

What happens here, BBC, is that. I don't know, because I don't know. Some things are actually people's faults and something table here. Slanted.

[Freddie]

Yeah, that's trouble.

[Bobby Bones]

If there was a question like, would you like a lid for that? And he said, no, but then the table was slanted, that could be something.

[Freddie]

True.

[Bobby Bones]

I Don't have enough of an understanding. It's exactly what happened. Except for his penis was burned. And that is a strong start to this show.

[Freddie]

It's no good.

[Bobby Bones]

Sports, sports. The other. I made a list. Guys, I have so much to talk about. And so this is not really going. This is going to be sports, but only kind of. Okay, did you guys see the 12 year old that got suspended for five years and his dad for life from the little League?

[Freddie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Jacob]

Ah, I think so.

[Bobby Bones]

So there's this kid, he's on the mound and there had been some jabber jawing between teams. 12 years old. So you're talking what, six seventh graders?

[Freddie]

Yeah, 12 years old, sixth grade.

[Bobby Bones]

He gets up to pitch and the wind up the delivery and he chunks it right at the dugout of the opposing team.

[Freddie]

I like it. That's funny. That's funny. It's just funny. It's not my kid, you know, so I. Outsider funny. That's not. That's not good.

[Bobby Bones]

Hit a kid. Yeah, that's not good because the dad told him to do it.

[Freddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So he gets up and he chunks a baseball as hard as he can at a kid. And the other day just a dugout of other players. You like that?

[Freddie]

I mean the story, like if it was watching a movie and that happened, like that's funny. But no, no, no, no. Dude, if I was there, that was my kid, my team. It's not good.

[Bobby Bones]

What if it was the opposing team?

[Freddie]

Even worse because you're throwing it at

[Bobby Bones]

my kid's dugout and your kid got hit.

[Freddie]

Yeah. Not good.

[Bobby Bones]

Like I like stupid stuff. I don't like that.

[Freddie]

So they got banned. Like what happened to him?

[Bobby Bones]

The kid has been banned for five years from playing in any leagues in that town apparently. And the dad suspended for life.

[Jacob]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Now here's the problem I have. The kid should not be suspended for five years.

[Freddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

The kid was doing what his dad told him.

[Freddie]

Correct.

[Bobby Bones]

If you want to take him out of that game, maybe another game or two. I get it. That 12 year old is just doing what pops said to do.

[Kevin]

Yep.

[Bobby Bones]

And. And that sucks. So it's wild to see because he just gets up and he looks good and strong like those hard and he's up in the wind up turns whaps it to the dugout over there.

[Freddie]

And in reality, you know, like a dad you banned for life. Unless he has like a bunch of kids that's gonna. That's gonna hurt. You know, like he's. Because now he won't be able to Coach his other kids. But if that's his only kid, then you're banned for life. You're like, okay, whatever.

[Bobby Bones]

Like, that's a loser dad.

[Freddie]

Big time.

[Bobby Bones]

I feel bad for the kid because he's got that loser dad that is raising him and is teaching him values. A lot of bad values. That's a loser dad.

[Jacob]

Yeah. Because what does he do when they're not on the ball field?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

As far as what he's teaching.

[Freddie]

Right, right.

[Kevin]

Justice for Braxton.

[Freddie]

Is that his name? Braxton?

[Kevin]

No, I just figured that a 12

[Bobby Bones]

year old's name is Braxton who's a pitcher. Yeah, yeah. Cool.

[Dan Woicke]

Okay.

[Freddie]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

Why do you have a heart on your hand?

[Kevin]

They thought it was a tattoo.

[Bobby Bones]

I was told to ask this because I don't know.

[Kevin]

Well, they were making fun of me.

[Freddie]

No, we weren't making fun of you. We asked you.

[Kevin]

You guys were making fun of me hard.

[Freddie]

Oh my gosh.

[Kevin]

Every morning, me and my wife were getting our 5 year old ready for school, you know, and we're like, all right, today's gonna be a great day. And we. We draw a heart on each of our hands to where at any point in the day, if we miss each other, we just look at the heart and we hug the heart.

[Freddie]

That's sweet.

[Bobby Bones]

You guys were laughing at him when I walked in and I didn't know why exactly.

[Freddie]

Well, no, no, because the joke was like. He's like, so if you see me hugging my fist, you know what I'm doing. And we're like, haha, that's funny.

[Dan Woicke]

You should tell Bobby.

[Bobby Bones]

So is the heart you're hugging your wife or your son?

[Kevin]

Our son. Like it's for him. Really? Like when he's at school, if he. If he gets sad or whatever, he just looks at the heart.

[Bobby Bones]

And you guys think that's funny? Yeah.

[Freddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I mean, yeah.

[Freddie]

Also the kid throwing in the dugout too. Maybe I'm just twisted, man.

[Bobby Bones]

Bad day, Freddie.

[Freddie]

Yeah, dude, check my.

[Bobby Bones]

Just bad day. All right, I got one more sports adjacent e story. Did you guys see the tennis player shove the girl?

[Freddie]

Yes, I did. And it's a weird angle.

[Bobby Bones]

No, he didn't shove her.

[Freddie]

Okay, because I was gonna say it's a weird angle where it looks like maybe she just moved, but it looks.

[Bobby Bones]

Pull it up. His name is Raphael Jodar J o D a r. It looks like when he's walking off, he lifts his arm up and shoves the ball girl back into the wall.

[Freddie]

It does look like it.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm telling you, when I saw it. I thought, what a freaking loser. Yeah, I'm gonna get Kevin's instant reaction.

[Jacob]

Do you have the video I'm looking for right now?

[Bobby Bones]

If you just type in.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah, it does look like it.

[Freddie]

I mean, I believed it.

[Bobby Bones]

I thought, wow, if that dude did that, he is such a loser. But then I thought, there's no one gonna do that.

[Freddie]

That is so bad.

[Kevin]

Yeah, you can tell, cuz she's like in the way and she's like, whoa.

[Bobby Bones]

So the Internet just blows up on this dude. Like, how could you hit a ball, girl, just because you're upset? Walking off the court. He's walking off the court. He lifts his arm up to like wave at people. And right about that time, she's trying to get out of the way and she gets her feet hang, like stumbling backward and like falls into the wall. Just trying to get out of the way. Yes. And it looks because it's the exact angle like he nailed her.

[Jacob]

Yeah. I mean, they couldn't timed it more perfect to make it look like he shoved her.

[Freddie]

It looked real.

[Bobby Bones]

How about that? That's pretty funny, huh?

[Jacob]

Wow.

[Freddie]

Yesterday I was watching NASCAR last night and some dude sportsy. No, no, no.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay.

[Freddie]

And some dude wrecks or whatever, but his car still running and he's going. He's gonna go back in the garage like he's quitting the race. And there's. He makes the turn to go into like where all the cars are, like where all the team trucks are, whatever. And when he makes the turn, there are two people just standing in the middle of the gate like talking like, do. They almost got hit by the car. It was crazy. One girl grabs the other girl. They're just like, move. It was hilarious. Like, dang, that was close.

[Bobby Bones]

Did we talk about the Ferrari fully electric car on this show?

[Kevin]

No, no, no, I don't think we did.

[Bobby Bones]

Did I do it on guys? I do. I'm. I'm stretched too thin. I don't know where I'm talking about stuff anymore. And I keep pretty diligent notes of everything. But I had this conversation recently about Ferrari has revealed its first fully electric car. And this car is like a $700,000 car.

[Dan Woicke]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

And it looks like a Corolla.

[Freddie]

Oh, it does.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, it does look a little. It looks a little space ag. And it's like two tone is not the word. That's word like my uncle uses. But it's like blue and like the hood's black and it's got some cool color. And I only saw A couple pictures. But the Internet was taking a crap on it because it's like $700,000 for a car and it looks like that. But Ferrari has revealed its first fully electric car.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that does not look like a Ferrari.

[Kevin]

Right.

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One of those Leafs.

[Kevin]

You remember the Nissan Leaf or whatever.

[Bobby Bones]

Just. It is priced entry about $640,000. So much it blends Ferrari's signature performance with a family friendly, roomy seating, high in tech, a large trunk. If I'm paying $700,000 for a car, don't put the large trunk in the first five things. I need better things.

[Freddie]

The trunk is last.

[Jacob]

I'm not buying a 700,000.

[Bobby Bones]

I just want to be surprised at the trunk. I don't really want that to be one of the top three things. You listen on a $700,000 car.

[Freddie]

Is it fast?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, it goes 190 miles an hour.

[Freddie]

Wow. What?

[Jacob]

I mean, have you seen it?

[Freddie]

No.

[Jacob]

Just look at it.

[Freddie]

Show me.

[Kevin]

I got it.

[Jacob]

Yeah. Brandon's got you. He's next to you.

[Kevin]

I mean, literally, that's the Leaf and that's the Ferrari. Oh, yeah.

[Freddie]

And a little more aerodynamic. Looks like a toy, but you're right.

[Dan Woicke]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Let me.

[Bobby Bones]

If you just love the brand Ferrari and you love electric and you really want a big trunk, like, I get

[Jacob]

it, you want that trunk.

[Bobby Bones]

Because I don't think that every expensive car needs to scream, my non Hyundai, I don't think that screams. But some people do. Like, it's an suv and I paid a lot for that.

[Freddie]

Your non Hyundai?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Was that what we're calling it?

[Bobby Bones]

Well, it's been. It's been brought out before, but I just don't like saying it. It feels so flexy. I don't like that because I'm not driving it. I literally am not driving it as a flex.

[Freddie]

Does that go fast?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know.

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[Freddie]

You haven't tested it?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'm not.

[Jacob]

Once.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I'm not a car guy.

[Freddie]

Like, pedal to the metal, dude. One time.

[Bobby Bones]

Never. And I never drive it with the engine. Almost never. It's always electric.

[Freddie]

Oh, really?

[Bobby Bones]

Electric goes fast anyway because there is. There's no fuel injection, so there's no time. Because a lot of times you have to. Gas takes a second to get the fuel injections.

[Jacob]

I didn't even know that I build

[Kevin]

up electric and it sounds like. It sounds like a real engine. Can you.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, I can.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Bobby Bones]

Both.

[Kevin]

That's right.

[Bobby Bones]

So it is 40 or 50 miles electric. And then it goes to gas. But I don't ever drive it 40 or 50 miles. I just get home and plug it back in. I never put gas in it.

[Kevin]

That's great.

[Jacob]

That's legit.

[Bobby Bones]

It's amazing. But if I want to flex and hit it, I hit a button and it goes to the engine. Have you heard it?

[Dan Woicke]

Oh, yeah, I've heard the flex.

[Bobby Bones]

So I'm imagining it goes fast, but I don't know.

[Freddie]

It sounds like it goes fast.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

So I would say I have that it was not for the reason to flex a car because it's an suv. I don't think it's a flex at all. Unless you're like a hardcore car person. If I were to see this car driving around, I wouldn't be like, dang, that's a $700,000 Ferrari. No, I wouldn't know. But I don't think you buy this if your interest is flexing.

[Jacob]

You just think you like the Ferrari brand or just saying, hey, I own a Ferrari.

[Bobby Bones]

Maybe that's it too.

[Freddie]

I mean, that sounds cool.

[Bobby Bones]

Are Ferraris generally expensive?

[Freddie]

I would believe. Yeah, I would say so.

[Jacob]

Because I feel like all car brands that don't have commercials are expensive.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's a. I've never thought about it.

[Freddie]

Like, Ferrari doesn't have commercials, huh?

[Bobby Bones]

Not really.

[Jacob]

Ever seen one?

[Bobby Bones]

They don't need to show anything to our mama's family.

[Freddie]

Family Family matters reruns.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Get yourself a Ferrari. Never seen that happen. I know they're expensive, but I mean, like, expensive.

[Kevin]

Go 250,000 to 600,000.

[Freddie]

That's expensive.

[Bobby Bones]

Yep.

[Kevin]

If you want one, just buy a regular one. Don't buy the weird looking one unless

[Bobby Bones]

this has some crazy trunk. Trunk?

[Kevin]

Oh, man.

[Jacob]

That trunk?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I wonder how far it goes, because my Hyundai goes, I think maybe almost 400 miles on a full Dan. That's a lot. Whenever the ice storm hit, in our power, we lost all of our power. We. Our power was our Hyundai. For three days, we plugged everything that still worked.

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[Bobby Bones]

And it had. So it's awesome.

[Freddie]

Would you all sit in there too sometimes?

[Bobby Bones]

Yes. I wouldn't go watch stuff.

[Freddie]

Oh, like on your phone. Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Keep it powered up. We both go sit in there and there's heat because we turn the heater on.

[Freddie]

I'm not sure if I like this or not, but like those Volkswagen buses, the new electric. Have you seen them?

[Kevin]

Those are really cool.

[Freddie]

Like, I keep seeing them around and I'm like, oh, I don't. I like. Cuz I love the buses. I love the old antique, like 1960s VW buses, you know, where they have, like, sinks and couches in them and all that. So I don't know if I'm just stuck on that or. I like, really like the new electric ones.

[Bobby Bones]

Probably mostly the first, but a little the second.

[Kevin]

My wife wants one so bad.

[Bobby Bones]

They're cool.

[Freddie]

How much are they?

[Kevin]

They're pretty. I mean, they're up there. Like. I think they started brand new. They're like 80.

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, wow.

[Freddie]

Wow, that's a lot.

[Kevin]

And they stopped making them this year.

[Freddie]

And they'll.

[Kevin]

They'll start making them in 27. So maybe the 25s will start going or the 24s will go down.

[Freddie]

And if you had an electric. Can you just plug it into the wall?

[Bobby Bones]

Just the wall. So. Yes, but it charges a lot slower. So. Yes.

[Freddie]

And I mean, like the outlet, you would plug a vacuum, you can bring

[Jacob]

in the studio, plug it in, it

[Bobby Bones]

charges a lot slower.

[Freddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

What we had to do is replace. Because I've had an electric car in some form for the past seven or eight years. You have to basically put in. This is a stupid way to say it, a washer and dryer type input.

[Freddie]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I know.

[Bobby Bones]

Whatever that is.

[Freddie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. And then it charges a lot faster. Okay, that's cool.

[Kevin]

Yeah. These Ferraris go 250 to 300 miles.

[Bobby Bones]

Dang. So not even that far for an electric.

[Freddie]

Oh, I thought speed.

[Jacob]

Me too.

[Freddie]

My bad. Like, what?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I just told you 190.

[Dan Woicke]

It was 190.

[Freddie]

I know, but then he said that I'm like 300.

[Bobby Bones]

Imagine a road car that goes 300.

[Freddie]

That's like a rocket.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, that's 14 minutes. We got 14 minutes without it. Without huge sports.

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[Bobby Bones]

I'm going to say this. This is going to be controversial. When Benyama is not that good. I'm going to tell he's just tall. He's good, but he's just tall.

[Freddie]

What are you talking about? That is the dumbest thing you've ever said. And you're a smart dude.

[Bobby Bones]

If he were 6, 7, he'd just be a fair NBA player.

[Freddie]

Do you know what a tall, fair NBA player looks like? Rudy Gobert?

[Bobby Bones]

No. He's better than no fair. He's. He's like defensive. He was defensive player of the year multiple years.

[Freddie]

Okay, so he can block. Great. You're tall, dude. You should be able to block this guy. Wemby shoots three. He drives like a point guard if

[Bobby Bones]

he wasn't seven foot five. And he is, so you can't take that away from him. He's. He's tall and he's pretty good. But because he's so tall, he's awesome.

[Jacob]

It's so funny you say that. I was watching the games the other night and I was like, I've heard all this hype about Wimby for years and I haven't sat there and watched much of spurs game and I'm like, he's good and now he's gonna get a lot better. But I'm like, I don't even think he's the best player on the floor tonight. I mean, obviously SGA was game seven, just was one example.

[Bobby Bones]

Wimby's awesome, dude, but I'm telling you, it's only because he's tall.

[Freddie]

I think it's amazing to see a tall guy move the way he does and play basketball the way he does.

[Bobby Bones]

I agree. All that I agree with. And it's stupid to go, well, we're gonna make him worse because he's tall. Because that's not fair. I'm just saying he, if he, if he's Kevin Durant's height, he's not as good. Kevin Durant's seven foot tall.

[Freddie]

Yeah, I see what you're saying, but

[Bobby Bones]

Wemby's awesome and he's gonna be awesome and if he can stay healthy. But I do picture him getting hurt randomly like Kevin Durant did for seasons at a time just because he's so long.

[Freddie]

Look at it. I mean, every time he falls it's like, oh my gosh, his knee's gonna break.

[Jacob]

Tired too. He always looks tired.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, I like Wemby.

[Freddie]

I was like, man, I was like, I got a little mad there.

[Bobby Bones]

No, I like when we. A lot. I do. Because he cares. Yeah, Yeah, I do like that.

[Dan Woicke]

And.

[Bobby Bones]

But I just think he's just real tall.

[Freddie]

But he's a good.

[Bobby Bones]

But like, Kevin Durant is awesome. Kevin Durant is a shooter. I'm not comparing the two, really. Except Kevin Durant is a pure everything. If you take three, four inches off him, I think he's just an elite guard. I think he's an elite six, eight, tweener. Three, four.

[Jacob]

Right.

[Freddie]

But dude, Wemby and his one handed rebounds there is just crazy to me.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, Wimpy's awesome. Yeah, he's awesome. I just think he's tall.

[Freddie]

Yeah. How tall is he? Seven. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

They say seven five, but then you hear the people that actually know go, he's 76 or 7 7.

[Freddie]

Oh. Because he looks way, way, way, way taller than everyone else.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Yeah. It's weird because most basketball players want the extra inch or two. They lie.

[Freddie]

Yeah.

[Dan Woicke]

Yeah, that's right.

[Freddie]

They're trying to bring him down.

[Bobby Bones]

They're trying to bring him down a little bit so he's not such a freak. Wemby's awesome.

[Freddie]

Are you betting on, on the, on the champ?

[Bobby Bones]

No, I don't think so. I don't have enough interest. We'll talk about this in a little bit with Dan Wojke, who's coming on. Who was at the game so that's all coming up. I wanted Oklahoma City to win and I think they would have won had they had their full arsenal of players. But that's part of it. It's not even an excuse. Like everybody has to be healthy to win. So it's not an excuse but. So everyone crowning the spurs as the next great thing. I think they are absolutely the favorite or co favorite every year. But Oklahoma City is just as good if they're at full capacity because the spurs were full. How, how rare for the spurs to have everybody healthy?

[Freddie]

Everyone.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Freddie]

Had some scares along the way, but yeah, everyone for the most part is still playing.

[Bobby Bones]

And I don't dislike this. I like the Spurs.

[Freddie]

Fox missed a few games. Yeah. Harper played.

[Bobby Bones]

Fox is freaking awesome.

[Kevin]

So good.

[Bobby Bones]

And he's not even. I would, I'd trade Fox tomorrow. I think Harper is the dude on that team. I know Castle Harper doesn't start. Harper was injured a little bit. Dude, give me Harper all day. That dude's awesome. I think if I were drafting from both those teams wouldn't be first. Shay second. I'm taking Harper third.

[Freddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

On a two team draft, sure. You can pick hassle now.

[Freddie]

I don't, I don't know their contract situation but I feel like can this team stay together for a while?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Because they're all within their early deals. I had pulled that. Oh man, what did I do with that? I pulled exactly that.

[Freddie]

Because every time I'm like, oh this team is so good and I start thinking like, oh, we going to be able to keep this team together.

[Bobby Bones]

I lost it. Yeah. For a while. Okay, good and cheap.

[Jacob]

How about Celtics legend Luke Cornett?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, dude, don't forget saved the game.

[Freddie]

Yeah, for sure. He definitely saved the game.

[Bobby Bones]

Do you want to know the only reason I know him? It's not from the Celtics. It's from. He was the one that I think wrote the article about the Atlanta Hawks not having stripper night.

[Freddie]

Really? He wrote the article?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

For like in the Players Tribune or something?

[Bobby Bones]

I think so. You may look that up. So there are only two Cornets. I know Jim Cornette had the tennis racket as a wrestling manager all during the 80s and 90s. Luke Cornette, the basketball player? The big white dude. I think whenever the Hawks were going to have. And I forget what the strip club

[Kevin]

was called Magic City Night.

[Bobby Bones]

I think he's the one that wrote the article.

[Jacob]

Yeah, you're right.

[Freddie]

Brandon called him out. You know that place Brandon?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh yeah. What did he. So it was him?

[Jacob]

Yeah, he argued the collaboration was disrespectful to women.

[Freddie]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

To woman or women

[Freddie]

this disrespectful to a woman.

[Bobby Bones]

What a block. What sucked was my father in law was at that game. Oh, he was? Yeah. That's like his favorite thing in the world.

[Jacob]

Great game to be at.

[Bobby Bones]

At least he had.

[Freddie]

It was a good game.

[Bobby Bones]

He had a bad weekend for sports and I messaged him about it. I was like, dude, sorry. Because he went to Arkansas. College World Series. We went to nine innings in softball. Seven against Nebraska. It was an awesome game. Nebraska's awesome. They have the best all around player I've ever seen. And her name was Jordy Ball. It's Jordy Fromm now. We played the crap out of them. They beat us for the home run at the very end of the game. Extra innings. He was there. We had to play the loser game the next day. You knew we were going to lose. We played till midnight. UCLA played earlier in the day. That day. They had rest. We played late.

[Freddie]

I checked in early. They were like down 7 0.

[Bobby Bones]

They started hitting home runs off of us. We had to pitch. People that pitched the whole night before.

[Freddie]

Yeah.

[Dan Woicke]

Yes.

[Freddie]

I saw the same picture on the map.

[Dan Woicke]

It was just like whack, whack, whack.

[Bobby Bones]

So he went to both of those games and then to the Thunder game.

[Jacob]

Dang.

[Bobby Bones]

A guy that good should not have to suffer three losses like that. He's like the best dude.

[Freddie]

Because he's a good dude.

[Bobby Bones]

He's the best. Yeah, he's the best dude. He shouldn't have to suffer through all three of them.

[Kevin]

I just want to hug him.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I'll have him draw a heart on

[Freddie]

his hand and then.

[Bobby Bones]

And then.

[Kevin]

That'd be great.

[Freddie]

You can hold the heart.

[Kevin]

That's a good idea.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. That's pretty good. That's pretty fun for you guys though. Do you feel, honestly, do you feel like the Knicks are nothing?

[Freddie]

I do.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Freddie]

I do. Yeah. I mean the only doubt I have is they've blown out every single team that they've played.

[Bobby Bones]

But it's the East.

[Freddie]

But it is the East. So, like, I feel like the spurs have it. But I do think it's going to go seven games. I think it's going to be closer than everyone thinks.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude, Chat sucks bad. Chat sucks. And it's. We shouldn't say that because here we are. Dopes. Yeah. To don't play basketball.

[Freddie]

We suck too.

[Jacob]

We suck.

[Ryan Seacrest]

We suck hard.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jacob]

But we're not top.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like he was weird Scared?

[Freddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

He got dunked on the very beginning, that Game seven. He would. He didn't want the ball.

[Jacob]

Yeah. It was over.

[Freddie]

It was crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

It was like I was watching Rick Ankiel.

[Jacob]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

So Rick Ankiel was a pitcher, came up with the Cardinals, was really good for a minute, then got the big yips and got big scared.

[Freddie]

Oh, the yips.

[Dan Woicke]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And then couldn't throw. Couldn't. Just couldn't throw. And was like, freaked out, mentally out. He ended up coming back as an outfielder later in his career. A pretty good outfielder, too.

[Dan Woicke]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

But, like, he just. His mind exploded on him. I feel like that happened to Chet. He did not want the ball. He did not guard Wimby. You saw that.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I was like, that's Rick Ankiel. And my wife's like, never heard of him. I'm like, anyway, moving on.

[Jacob]

Look him up.

[Freddie]

Thanks for explaining to me who it was. But you know what's like, I feel like game one, there was a weird. And we never talked about this, but, like, did you see the Post interview with Shay?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't know.

[Freddie]

At this point, they interviewed Shay and they were talking about how he thought Hardenstein did against Wemby. And he is like, you know, I'm not gonna say that because I. You know what? He did good. He did good. And then he's just like, I just. I would have done something different. And so I feel like that kind of summed it up to me that, like, everyone on that team was like, why is Chet not the dude on Wimby?

[Bobby Bones]

Oh, that's okay. So I didn't see Shay say that. And I'm not even sure if you. What you did is true to it,

[Freddie]

but, I mean, that's what I got from.

[Bobby Bones]

Got it.

[Freddie]

Because that's exactly what he said.

[Bobby Bones]

It wasn't up against. It wasn't a Hardenstein thing.

[Freddie]

No. And I think it was. He was just. And I don't know, but it seemed like him. He was feeling like, why wasn't our biggest dude on Wemby?

[Bobby Bones]

Everybody kept saying that Wendy hates Chet. Like, hates Chet.

[Freddie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Like was just trying to embarrass him. I felt bad for him. I was frustrated for him as fresh from my father in law. Then I got mad at Chet for my father in law.

[Freddie]

Oh, no.

[Bobby Bones]

I know.

[Jacob]

Yeah, that's not good.

[Freddie]

But now your Ghostburs go, right?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't care. It'd be fun to see the Knicks win because they haven't won in 50 years and I have no relationship with The Knicks at all. More so because I think the spurs are going to be around to win a bunch forever.

[Freddie]

I hope you're right.

[Bobby Bones]

So if the Knicks do win, I think that's probably. Man, I just. I like the spurs, though. Yeah. I'm just kind of torn. I like the story of the Knicks, but there's nothing about the spurs that makes you not like them.

[Jacob]

I know.

[Bobby Bones]

And they're in a small market. Oh, we'll hate them once they start winning.

[Jacob]

Yeah, we'll get there.

[Bobby Bones]

We're America.

[Freddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

We want to build somebody up and rip them down.

[Freddie]

Did you guys hate the Big three Spurs?

[Bobby Bones]

No. Eventually Ginobly got annoying.

[Jacob]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

And eventually Tony Parker. Because they won so much, we paid more attention to them. And yeah, eventually they got annoying.

[Freddie]

But Tim Duncan kind of like got out scot free, huh?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

How can you not. How can he have anything bad to say against Tim Duncan? You're like, he's cool. Let him do his thing.

[Freddie]

Love him.

[Bobby Bones]

Congratulations.

[Freddie]

Thank you, man.

[Bobby Bones]

That's fun for you.

[Freddie]

Thank you.

[Bobby Bones]

That's fun for you. And I don't have any beef with anyone new. There's a good storyline for both, but I think the freaking NBA for the next couple of years goes through that west being San Antonio and Oklahoma City. Unless Wemby gets hurt and that whole team crashes.

[Dan Woicke]

Yes.

[Freddie]

Because that would happen. If he got hurt. That would happen.

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[Bobby Bones]

I didn't know this first coach would listen to our podcast.

[Freddie]

Yeah, obviously he listens to our podcast.

[Jacob]

No. Does he really?

[Dan Woicke]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Whistles guy.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Freddie]

Did you not watch Game seven?

[Jacob]

Yeah, I did.

[Freddie]

Yeah. Yeah, they did exactly what I said they should be doing. So that obviously means that they're listening to 25 whistles.

[Jacob]

That makes sense.

[Freddie]

Hey, guys, why don't we try what this dude said?

[Bobby Bones]

I heard of Eddie. Guys, everybody in the team room, hit play.

[Freddie]

Play the whole podcast.

[Bobby Bones]

Hit play up there.

[Kevin]

Producer Eddie's game plan.

[Freddie]

They have to listen to the first 10 minutes of no sports.

[Kevin]

It's refer to penis.

[Bobby Bones]

What do you think? Hey, it lightens the mood a little bit, you know, have another note. And I think you guys will like this, even though you're not into college softball like I am. But. So Texas Tech, what's Star Wars? What's the big villain? Not Darth Vader, but what's like the Death Star. Yeah, that star.

[Freddie]

That's a planet. Like a bad planet.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. Bad planet.

[Freddie]

Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Texas Tech softball is the Death Star.

[Freddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

It's like the evil place. Now, I don't really feel that way, but to everybody else, it is because Texas Tech has a ton of money. I think they spent $2 million on their softball team. They allegedly are poaching players. They're grabbing all the best players from all the best teams, saying, we'll give you this money if you get in the portal. It's everything you don't want to happen but does happen, and it's legal. It's not legal to poach.

[Freddie]

Oh, it's not?

[Bobby Bones]

No. Oh, but it is legal to pay players, but it's not legal to poach.

[Freddie]

Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

So Texas Tech gets from Florida, Jason Williams daughter, White Chocolate. Oh, I saw.

[Jacob]

He was everywhere this week.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, because he's Texas Tech. He's the dad of. Now his daughter plays on Texas Tech's team.

[Jacob]

Gotcha.

[Bobby Bones]

She was awesome at Florida. They, according to reports, poached her, paid her a bunch of money. She comes over to Texas Tech. She's awesome. She got hit five times against Florida in that series, like with a ball.

[Jacob]

She got beaned.

[Bobby Bones]

Do we not talk about this?

[Freddie]

No, no.

[Bobby Bones]

So she came from Florida, went to Texas Tech. They played a super regional against each other. In the three games, she got hit five times. Wow.

[Freddie]

Okay, girls.

[Bobby Bones]

And then at the end of the game, Massify, the coach got kicked out because he. Then he wouldn't shake hands. The teams wouldn't shake hands. Is crazy, right? So there's. There's one. That's one. Number two. And this is the one that was all weekend. That made me laugh out loud. Clip this. There's a girl at Tennessee, she was at Tennessee who played third base. She was an All American. She went to Texas Tech. Texas Tech is the death star. They're the villain, supposedly. They poached her and said, give you all this money, come to Texas Tech. Texas Tech ends up beating Tennessee in the College World Series. So the team that she used to play on played the team that she's on. And after she left, there was all this drama about her being on the team. Her dad bad mouthing the coach. So of course it's gonna be a little chippy once they get there. Tennessee ends up beating Texas Tech. So the team that she was on and left just got beat by the team that she's on in the handshake line afterward. They're pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Good, good. They go to the press conference and she says that the Tennessee coach said to her, you made a mistake, as they're doing handshakes. So everybody's like, ooh, drama. This player is already a bit problematic. Her dad is very problematic. So everybody's like, show us the tape. Find the tape of the handshake line. Of course they're going to have it. They find it. The head coach did not say this to the girl. She got up there and said that in the press conference. That the head coach said it. The head coach never said it to the girl. What? It did not happen. So there, like forensic Evidence. Every little mouth movement, lip reading. The only thing that happened is after they went to the handshake line and they walked away, the player looks back and says, if somebody did say it, it wasn't the head coach. It wasn't in the handshake line. It wasn't what she had said to make the coach look terrible. And look, I'm sure both the sides are a little wrong. Yeah. Everybody hates Texas Tech because they're buying all the players and they're winning. Now, you can do this like all the college football teams do it, but it seems to be pretty obvious that it's some pretty heavy poaching. And the girl's dad, the handshake girl's dad has been all over social media at some point. He was talking about, hey, she got $750,000. That's more money than you'll ever make in your life to somebody. Why don't you keep on S and a D?

[Jacob]

What?

[Freddie]

Her dad is saying this. Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. I'm almost positive it wasn't AI because I found like three different places.

[Freddie]

That's how you double ch dang.

[Bobby Bones]

So it's wild is what I was watching all weekend.

[Freddie]

Huh?

[Bobby Bones]

That head coach from Tennessee did not in the handshake line say that. And she got in the press conference after and said the head coach said that to her. She's lying now. I put that on her dad because if that's how her dad is, her dad's raised her to be like that.

[Jacob]

Probably the same dad from the. The little kid that threw it at the dugout.

[Bobby Bones]

Right. Or Uncle Taylor Pannell said that Karen Weekly told her you made a mistake instead of good game in the handshake line after today's game. Pinel also said her decision to transfer from Tennessee to Texas Tech is old news and she moved on. That's from Jenna Becerra 01. It didn't happen. You're going to get up there in the press conference and lie.

[Dan Woicke]

That's crazy.

[Jacob]

Especially nowadays, everywhere.

[Freddie]

Forensics got you. Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

Texas Tech ended up winning again. They're still in it now. But they're.

[Jacob]

So we're anti Texas Tech now.

[Freddie]

Hey, they're the dark side, dude.

[Kevin]

This week I.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay, I meant. Sure. I'm anti Texas Tech. Softball. I really. I'm really not. Yeah, but they're the villain. We need villains. Sports is so much more fun when we have villains.

[Kevin]

True.

[Bobby Bones]

And Texas Tech gets to be the Death Star right now because we need a villain here. And they bought all the players. They played ucla. They Ended up buying a pitcher from them or whatever, too.

[Dan Woicke]

Really crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

Thanks.

[Freddie]

Hey, so define poaching to me like.

[Bobby Bones]

So I'm not in the transfer portal. Okay.

[Freddie]

Okay.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm a running back at Arkansas and.

[Freddie]

You in Arkansas.

[Bobby Bones]

I'm in Arkansas. It's my sophomore year. I just finished. I'm going to stay at Arkansas. Of course. I'm getting nice nil. I did not get in the portal. I get a call from someone going, hey, if you get in the portal, we over here at Alabama, we'll give you a million and a half bucks. I know you're making 400,000 there. Get in the portal. We will pay you once you get in the portal. You can't legally have that call. You can't coax someone to get in the portal and transfer. But it's happening all over the place all the time.

[Freddie]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

I wish my school had all the money. I want to be the Death Star.

[Freddie]

Yeah, right. Because that would be cool.

[Jacob]

Yeah. They're stirring things up in football still.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

Texas Tech, that is.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. Because they got all the money.

[Freddie]

Money Was that oil money?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. It's one guy, mostly.

[Freddie]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

I wish we had that guy. I hate that guy. I wish we had that guy.

[Freddie]

That guy go to Arkansas.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. All right, Clip that whole thing right there. Put that man, because that'll get some play. That was a big, big drama story there. That there was a guy. Did you follow the guy that bet on DraftKings?

[Freddie]

Yeah.

[Kevin]

Oh, yeah.

[Jacob]

That was crazy.

[Bobby Bones]

So he bet Michigan to win the college basketball, the NCAA tournament.

[Freddie]

They did. Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

He bet the USA to win the gold medal at the Olympics in hockey. They did. He bet the Knicks to go and win the East.

[Freddie]

Did it.

[Bobby Bones]

And at the beginning of the series, he had the spurs to win the West. And so they kept giving him cash outs of like 400,000. And then when they went down three, two, it was down to like 300,000 again because he bet 2,500 bucks. 21.7 million.

[Freddie]

Oh, my goodness.

[Bobby Bones]

Going into game seven, the cash out was over $600,000. He's like, I'm not hedging. I'm not cashing out. He had the Spurs. Wow. I'm not hedger. I'm not cash out. I'd have cashed out. I'd have cashed out. Narcissist. I would have been the Death Star. And we'd have been buying players mid tournament.

[Jacob]

Yeah, absolutely, man.

[Bobby Bones]

And he hit for $1.7 million on a $2,500 bet.

[Freddie]

That's amazing.

[Kevin]

Gosh, that could be you, Eddie.

[Freddie]

That could someday, man. I've gotten really bad at not hitting cash outs. Like, I just. I should because I lose the bet most of the time. I was like, nah, man, just wait it out. Just wait it out.

[Dan Woicke]

We can do this.

[Freddie]

And then every time I lose the bet, I'm like, gosh, I should have cashed out.

[Bobby Bones]

That's usually how it works. Yeah.

[Freddie]

Yeah. I woke up today because Denny Hamlin won the Nashville NASCAR race last night. But it didn't end until, like, 11.

[Bobby Bones]

Rain.

[Freddie]

It was rain delayed.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah.

[Freddie]

It started late, so I didn't see the end, but I woke up to some cash.

[Kevin]

Was that here in Nashville?

[Freddie]

It was, yeah.

[Bobby Bones]

The final thing I wanted to mention was another Texas Tech story with football.

[Freddie]

Oh.

[Bobby Bones]

So Sarkeesian, a couple weeks ago says, and he doesn't mention them by name, but there is another team in another conference that if we played their schedule, we could win their conference with our twos and threes. He's talking about Texas Tech.

[Freddie]

Yes.

[Bobby Bones]

So the guy at Texas Tech with all the money says, hey, I'll pay for this. So he offered to buy out. And I forget who the schools were that Texas Tech was playing week one, and then to buy out Texas game as well. If Texas would play Texas Tech.

[Freddie]

No way.

[Bobby Bones]

He threatened to buy all the games out. He's like, is that legal? Yeah, there's nothing illegal about that. He would pay the buyouts for both of those schools.

[Freddie]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

Because they have to pay those teams to play them. He's like, I'll pay them. You don't play the game. Let's get Texas Tech and Texas to play, and let's see if you back it up.

[Freddie]

That's crazy. So is it going to happen?

[Bobby Bones]

Nah, I doubt it. I want to be the Death Star. That'd be so cool to have money make people hate you.

[Freddie]

Right.

[Jacob]

They play Texas plays Texas State, week one.

[Bobby Bones]

Okay. So he offered to buy that out,

[Jacob]

and Tech plays Abilene Christian, and he's

[Bobby Bones]

like, I'll buy that out to a couple million bucks.

[Freddie]

If you were Texas State, would you take the money?

[Bobby Bones]

It's not about Texas State.

[Freddie]

I know, but would you take the money? Of course. You're part of it. You have to say, yes, I'll take the buyout.

[Bobby Bones]

No, you take it and you schedule another game.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right?

[Freddie]

I would do.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. You don't schedule a big team, but you schedule. Yeah, yeah.

[Freddie]

No.

[Bobby Bones]

If you get bought out, you have no choice in it.

[Freddie]

Oh, really?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah. No, yeah, yeah. Because there are teams now buying out teams because the conference, certain conferences now are playing more game. SEC is gonna play nine conference games. And so teams are just getting bought out. They have no choice.

[Freddie]

Got it.

[Bobby Bones]

But they're getting that money, which is the only reason they were playing a bigger team they were gonna lose to anyway. Got a bunch of notes. Texas Tech. Texas Tech. I respect it. Same I. It's fun to root against it and like, I hope they lose. But I love villains. I wish I could be the villain. Sometimes in that world just means you're winning. And you have. You're just winning. If you just win, you become a villain. Wimby will become a villain at some point. Yeah, that's it. All right. Take a break.

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[Bobby Bones]

Hey, let's welcome in Dan Woicke, Lakers reporter for the Athletic and a longtime NBA writer who has covered the league from Clippers, lob City to LeBron and Luka. And also a broader NBA perspective from the finals starting this week and the Western Conference finals Wild Game seven. I just finished reading your article about Chet. Let's just start there. Like, Dan, what happened with Chad?

[Dan Woicke]

So Bobby, I think of this like through more of a human perspective than a basketball perspective. Imagine that you're like a one of one, you know, seven foot tall kind of unicorn type of player. You're always the biggest players your size aren't as skilled as you. You shoot it better, you dribble better than anyone who's as tall as you. And that's been your whole basketball life, right? And that's true for Chet Holmgren. He was a top recruit. He was one of the top players in the country, Gonzaga. Then he gets to the NBA and that's who he's supposed to be, right? And then all of a sudden like the funhouse mirror version of yourself that's 20% taller, it feels like, and more skilled and better than you is like your new foil. And that guy is hell bent on destroying you every time you play. And yeah, I think it had a. It has a mental effect on Chet Olgren. I think all of the advantages that he normally has, he doesn't have against Victor Wembanyama. And it doesn't mean Chet is bad. But what is interesting is that as the Thunder kind of move forwards, like they're going to have to beat the spurs and they're going to have to beat Victor Wembanyama. This is something he's going to have to get over.

[Bobby Bones]

Bobby yeah, to me, Chet's 7 foot and I they're a guy 7 foot one, however tall Chet is with ball skills like he can shoot three. And that would make all the sense in the world to me if they didn't have Chet guarding Wemby. They kept him away from him. So yeah, and I completely, I just think of that picture like the 17U basketball tournament where like Chet's holding the trophy and Wimby's next to him and taller, but Chet's got it. Like, did we just. Did he just have, like, this vendetta to kill the guy who beat him in 17 under basketball?

[Dan Woicke]

Wemby does seem remarkably petty in, like, a fun way, right? Like, I mean, like, incredible competitor, right? I was talking to a guy I know on the San Antonio staff, and we were talking about this, and it's just like, one, like. I mean, Chad's not. Like, Chad is competitive and Chet is tough, and, like, he will go at guys. It's like. But, like, this is, like, the smoke it seemingly he does not want, right? And I don't know if he feels defeated. He feels passed over already, but, like, you know, like, Victor. It's crazy. Bobby. They're like these guys, right, that, like, you see in the paint, and then, like, people just, like, stop, right? And it used to be, like, that was like a Rudy Gobert thing is, like, guys would drive into the paint, you'd see Rudy Gobert, and you would turn around. Like, the thing with Victor is, it's like you're looking over your shoulders, like, everywhere. Because it's not just the rim. Like, you know, he can close out on you from 10ft away. He's so long. He's so agile. Like, I don't want to say. I mean, yeah, he's, like, scary to play against, I think. And, like, I don't really know, like, how to attack it quite yet. Somebody will figure out something, but we're not there right now, right? Like, right now, like, he is the scariest player in the NBA.

[Bobby Bones]

You're onto something that is so refreshing about Wemby is that he cares. Like, it matters to him. And even after the game, you know, he was so excited. I mean, he was. It was a. It was. It was much. But I like it that it was much, because this guy could just rest on the fact that he's 7, 5, 7, 6, you know, depending on who's measuring him, and just be like, I'm tall and I'm good, but I feel like it's really cool to see someone with all that natural ability. Natural. The physical, all the tools, and still really, really want it.

[Dan Woicke]

Yeah. Have you heard sort of, like, the kind of the stereotype, right, about, like, tall players in the NBA is that, like, they don't love basketball. That, you know, the reason, like, at some point, when they're 10 years old, somebody finds them on a playground, says, like, hey, guess what? You're six foot eight. You're going to. And it's not the exact same thing as it is for, like, everyone else. I do think that Wemby, what's different about him is like, not only does he love basketball, he is, like, committed to being like the best player of all time. That's the goal, right? It's not anything else. The goal is to be an all time great. The goal is to be better than Michael Jordan, to be better than Kareem Abdul Jabbar, to be better than LeBron James. And it's credible. You know, I was in the Laker Lock when they played Victor Wemanyama. I was talking to a player and I. And we had this, like, we were like, how many MVPs would he win? And it would still be like a disappointment. We landed on three. But if this guy wins three MVPs, he's like, something has gone wrong in his career. That's just how good he is, right? Like, and how good he can be. It feels like he is going to win six of them. I don't know. Now, sometimes we get prisoner of the moment on this type of stuff, but, like, I mean, Bobby, we've never seen anybody like this, right? Like, I mean, this is transformative stuff. Like, in the same way that, you know, when I'm trying, like, I try to think of like, the other guys in other sports, like, in my, like, time on this planet who have been like, oh, my God, I don't know what we do with this. Like, Bo Jackson, like, at his peak, Ken Griffey Jr. You know, guys as big and as strong as Aaron Judge, like, like, these guys, like, don't just, like, they don't just show up. It's generational. And this is a. I mean, LeBron for sure. This is like a generational player. And we're like, we're in like chapter one of his career right now, which is the scariest part.

[Bobby Bones]

I try not to be prisoner of the moment as well. And I do feel that if Oklahoma City would have had another scorer if, you know, and injuries are a part of it. So I'm not saying, like, whoa is OKC, but you had Jalen Williams out and you had AJ out. Like, they had to go to McCain, McCain at the end, like, be their guy and he's fourth or fifth when it comes to who you want to have the ball, but he was their shooter. And I think if those. If only one of them can play, I think it's possibly different. So I don't want to scream that this is the spurs world now, but I do think it's the spurs and the Thunders world now. Would you agree with that?

[Dan Woicke]

Oh yeah, 100%. I mean it feels like these teams are light years ahead of the rest of the Western Conference and they're both ascending still. Like that's the reality. But now look, I remember when the Denver Nuggets won the NBA title, talking to people around the league and being like, who's ever going to beat Nikola Jokic, right? And you know, he hasn't won a title since. I mean it felt like oh my God, like you have Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown, you know, entering the primes of their career at this time with like the sort of Missoula ball, like who's going to beat the Boston Celtics. Injuries happen, things happen, the league changes really quickly. I think what these two teams know, where it's different is that this is like style and like, and skill. You know, you have a player like, I mean like let's, let's run down some of the guys we haven't talked about, right? We haven't mentioned Shake El, just Alexander. We haven't mentioned Stefan Castle, we haven't mentioned Dylan Harper. You know, like these are guys that are. I mean Shay is unreal and is so good at getting to a spot, so good at manipulating the game. But like those spurs guards are both like. I mean it's not hard to like close your eyes and imagine both those guys as all stars in the next three seasons. Or like, like Castle to me is like I was talking to a group of my friends about it. It's like he's athletic like John Morant, but he's like a dog, kind of like Tony Allen, but he has skill too. Like he's so sudden. Like there's some Derrick Rose in his game. Like, I mean like this guy is. Has a chance to be like really, really special. And then you watch Dylan Harper play and he's like a 20 year old who plays like he's 35 with so much poise. And you know the Thunder push everybody around, Bobby. Like the spurs push the Thunder around. You know, I think Jalen Williams said it yesterday at their interviews. He was just kind of like they sort of play like us. And that's like they do except they're younger and stronger and cheaper. Right. And so yeah, I think those, I mean, yes, everybody is chasing these two teams now. That being said, the Knicks have a chance to win the finals. Absolutely.

[Bobby Bones]

Let me ask one more question before that about Oklahoma City. So they're like, okay, what's Sam Preston going to do like, he's got all the picks, he's got the young. What, what's, what's going to happen?

[Dan Woicke]

Yeah, good question. I think there has always been, like, Sam's not afraid of, like, like, you know, I think making big moves, but they've usually been more like outgoing than incoming.

[Bobby Bones]

Right.

[Dan Woicke]

Like, I'm really curious to see, like, does he look at their, their team? Like, take, let's just say, like Giannis, for instance. Right? Like, who I don't think they're particularly interested in, but like, let's just say, like, okay, do you look at Giannis Antetokounmpo and know that if we trade for him, he will sign somewhere else in a year? We don't think we can keep him, but if we get him, maybe we can win to Sam Presti. Cash in. You know, they've got two first round picks this year. They have young players, they have picks way out into the future still. Do you cash in for him? Do you, do you chase Evan Mobley? Do you chase some other, like, young player that's ascending that fits your timeline? You know, there's been some talk about, like, do they move up in the draft and try to get like Cam Boozer? You know, I'm not so sure. I do think, like, you don't want to overreact to what just happened. To your point, Bobby, like, you're missing two really good players in a very tight series where an adjustment here, an adjustment there, you know, like, you win game one, you win game seven. The only thing that I would push back on, on that was just watching those games. So I was at three of those games. I think that it's. This is an analytics. This isn't like high level X's nose. It just seemed easier for the spurs than it did for the Thunder. When the spurs got the ball in the basket, it seemed easier and it seemed harder for Oklahoma City to score. It seemed harder for Oklahoma City to move and get into the stuff that they wanted to get into. And when that happens, you know, that doesn't really shift with time. Like, I think the spurs are only going to get better, which makes all of this stuff, like, again, if you're Sam, like, you have to look at your roster and say, like, can we, can we, like, can we beat these guys consistently? You know, is this the best group we have to fight them or do we need, do we need like another big gun? And it'll be fascinating to see, like, how they handle it because it's such a team, like being around The Thunder during these playoffs, Bobby, like that is such like a, like we put the team ahead of the individual, like high character group of people. People who do this stuff with teamwork and selflessness, all the things you want, right? You start adding stars to that, that gets a little tougher to sell. But maybe they need to upgrade their talent.

[Bobby Bones]

Well, the earth has already declared the spurs the NBA champions. How do the Knicks stop that?

[Dan Woicke]

Oh, I mean, I think like, I mean the earth has not been paying attention to the vibes, right? Like, I mean the spurs just came through, you know, a war and like the Knicks have just been sitting there watching and waiting and you know, I mean like they've got so much momentum, the energy and their crowd is going to be incredible. Like they have the shot making. They have like sort of the athletes to compete with the spurs. You know, I do think obviously like, you know, can Carl Anthony Towns and like get at Victor Webanyama, can Ogn and Obi guard up and Josh Hart guard up on Victor Wemanyama, which is a thing teams do. But I don't know, I mean, I hesitate to make a pick right now, to be honest. I haven't like totally thought about it. Just shot my kids off at school. But like I do think that they, yeah, they've got, they've got a really good chance. I mean if the spurs have the best player in the series and Victor Wemanyama, the Knicks might have, you know, 2, 3, 4, and Jalen Brunson and OG Anunoby and Carl Towns. Like that seems like reasonable to me in some order and like you can put together a series, you can win a series that way.

[Bobby Bones]

So I have league pass and I leave it on in the evenings a lot when I'm preparing for whatever else I'm going to be doing in the day. I didn't spend a lot of time on the Knicks and so until later on when I would watch more of the Knicks and I've admitted this, so I'm not a Knick expert. However, the one player that I think has kind of surprised me at how freaking good he is is Anunobi. Has this dude always been that good?

[Dan Woicke]

He is like when he's been healthy, he's sort of like everything NBA players want in a role playing teammate, right? Like he's good enough to shoot more than he does, but he's cool with if it only happens 11 times a game or 10 times a game. He's a beast, like physically, like incredibly strong, like built like a defensive end, like a lean Defensive end, right? And he, you know, can guard anybody like one through five. Incredible, incredible winning basketball player. He's just had injury stuff, you know, and hasn't been available. Consistent consistently had some injury stuff earlier this postseason, but seems to be healthy right now. I mean, yeah, he's, he's like one of those guys probably that like you could just put him on 29 teams in the NBA other than the Knicks and he would look awesome, right? Like, like put him with Luka Doncic, it would look great. Put him with the Cola Jokic, it would look great. Put him with Steph Curry, it would look great. It doesn't matter. Like you can put him anywhere. Like he has, he's like as plug and play of an NBA player that exists like at a super high level. Like, will he ever be an all star? Probably not. But it's like, like the ball knowers know, right? Like the guys know. Like this is a guy you want on your team when you need to get a stop. He's a guy that can, that can catch and shoot and hit a big shot. Can get a bucket if you need him to do that to a high level player. Really high level player.

[Bobby Bones]

I have two questions left. We'll go Knicks and then LeBron, but with the Knicks and this is going to sound like a kindergartner asking the question, but I love it. Did Carl Anthony Towns just get a better attitude?

[Dan Woicke]

I think sometimes when you are unburdened of the pressures of like having to be like the number one pick for a team, you know, face of the franchise stuff, like all of that stuff, it just frees you up. And I think he feels more freed up. He can have more off nights with the Knicks. He can. You know, it's not his team, it's not his town. It's Jalen Brunson's team. It's Jalen Brunson town, right? And Cat is slotted in as a complimentary piece. And I say that respectfully. I mean he's still obviously like really, really good and is a like a high level town in the league. But like he doesn't have those responsibilities, right? Like he doesn't have to be the one to like save the franchise. And Jalen Brunson seems very comfortable being in that, in that role. And like, look, and it's not just Brunson, like they have a roster full of players that are there to like kind of make life easier on you if it's not your night. And I think like, you know, and I don't Know Carl that well, but like, you know, just being around him a little bit in some series and stuff like that over time, like it just, you know, it just seems easier that he has more help, you know what I mean? Like that the situation and the opportunity, the timing, all that stuff suits his game, suits his personality. And I think, you know, Mike Brown's done a really good job too of like kind of unlocking some stuff with him and not asking him to be anyone that he isn't got to do.

[Bobby Bones]

The LeBron question. And I saw a couple things that I would love for you to comment on since you're the Expert. I saw LeBron a clip of him saying, hey, he'd take a little less money to stay with the Lakers. And then I saw another thing saying they'd rather have reaves for 40 million a year for four years versus LeBron at that. For one, all of this. So based on where we are right now, what do you think is going to happen to LeBron?

[Dan Woicke]

I mean, he needs to first formally decide he like wants to keep playing basketball, right? Which I think he does. I do think that that is more in question that people have realized or had been more in question than people realized. But I think once he decides he wants to play basketball now it's about his priorities, right? And like, can they be, can they be achieved? Like he wants to win. I think he wants to be close to Los Angeles. This is where his family is. Like, he's talked very openly about wanting to like be a volleyball dad for his daughter and you know, look like this guy Bobby is. In the course of 12 months, I've never seen anybody get addicted to something quite like LeBron has gotten addicted to golf. So like, yeah, I don't know that he would want to go play in a cold weather market in part because of that. Like I think he likes he's scheduled into his routine. All this is to say, like it makes the most sense for him to be back with the Lakers. That is the most boxes that get checked for everybody involved. Now the money can get weird, right? Like, you know, Austin reeves just turned 28 years old. He is a part of the Lakers long term future, you know, and they're going to have to pay him. His money is not directly tied the LeBron's money. Like they both can get paid this summer. But like LeBron's money is more tied to like how aggressive the Lakers can be in improving the roster around him, around Luka Doncic, around Austin Reeves. And so I think it is on The Lakers, if they expect LeBron to take, like, a big, big pay cut or willingness to take a big pay cut, you got to just be. You got to. You got to come with a plan, and you got to tell them, this is why we're doing it, and this is, like, what we. What it can do for you. I think they'll get there. But. But I do think, like, and we reported this in the Athletic, like, I mean, the priority this summer is to build around Luka Dodgy. Like, that's the priority, right? That's not a knock on LeBron James. It's just like, this is their first chance to, like, build out the Luka roster. And so, yeah, you need. You need the center, you need the shooting and the athleticism on the wings and stuff like that. And, like, by the way, you do need LeBron James, too. Like, he's really, really good. He was awesome this season. You know, in March, the Lakers were one of the best teams in the NBA when he, like, really, like, slotted into that third man kind of job with that roster. But, like, you know, you've got a lot of decisions to make, a lot of stuff to kind of figure out. And I think, you know, the Lakers are going to have to figure out if. If LeBron, you know, can they sell LeBron on a version of this where it makes sense for LeBron to take $25 million? I'm just making up that number. But, like, can you. Can you pitch that? You know, and if you can make a good enough pitch, I think you can get him. But he's LeBron James. He's got suitors. He's got options. Fascinating, because we've just never seen a guy be like this at 41, not in this sport. Like, he's too old. He's told to fully get all the way behind, but he's way too good to walk away from. It's a fascinating position.

[Bobby Bones]

That's what they say about me.

[Dan Woicke]

I know. I can relate. Except mostly easy to walk away from, though. Like, I'm there too old to get behind, and I'm also very easy to walk away from. So great article. So actually nothing like. Nothing like LeBron at all, actually.

[Bobby Bones]

Great article if you got you guys. I'm a subscriber to the Athletic, but Dan wrote a great article on Chet and. And what had happened on Sunday night, and just generally looking forward and. You guys can follow Dan Dan Wikisports on Twitter. Hey, thanks, Dan. I really appreciate you. Love your work, and hopefully I'll see you again sometime.

[Dan Woicke]

Soon, Bobby. You know, normally I'm not nice to people who wear Cubs gear. I'm a White Sox person myself. But I'll make an exception to start the week. I don't want to. I don't want to enter this week with negativity.

[Bobby Bones]

I appreciate that, Dan.

[Freddie]

All right.

[Bobby Bones]

Have a good day, man. Okay, that's it for us. Everybody feel good? Yeah.

[Freddie]

Who's that picture, though, that went. See that picture? He struck someone out. Like, who?

[Bobby Bones]

He did Suck it. Yeah.

[Freddie]

He just danced. He, like, did a sucking dance.

[Bobby Bones]

They kick him out.

[Freddie]

I don't know what happened. I saw the video, but I saw the manager come out and be like, that's. That's. It's just unacceptable.

[Bobby Bones]

See the Georgia player get kicked out after the home run?

[Jacob]

Yeah. What did he do that one?

[Bobby Bones]

Throw him out immediately. Home run. Looked at the dugout, dance came all the way. And they let them. But, you know, it's. It's a bit performative. College sports is they throw him out.

[Freddie]

Really?

[Jacob]

I think he was, like, still rounding second base.

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Freddie]

He hadn't rounded yet.

[Bobby Bones]

Dude.

[Jacob]

He was doing all kinds of stuff.

[Bobby Bones]

You know, we don't talk a lot of college baseball, but UCLA was the overall number one seed, so they were number one. And the over. They lost in the regional. It's like NCAA tournament. Virginia losing as the one to a 16. Oh, yeah. It's literally what that was. It's never happened before.

[Dan Woicke]

Wow.

[Bobby Bones]

So. All right, that's it. Music.

[Freddie]

Ah, yes.

[Bobby Bones]

I can just see your music and it plays, man. Thank you, everybody. If you do listen and you're like, hey, I don't even listen to sports. And I listen to this. Let us know. Let me know in the old DMS there, Mr. Bobby Bones. Also, you can go to our YouTube. It's at 25 Whistles Sports or just 25 Whistles. Yep, at 25 Whistles Sports. We got a lot of work to do over there, but we. We're posting the crap. Thank you, and we will see you guys. Bye, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And for form by Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials. Randonray Music. You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby bonesports. Thanks to our crew, co host producereddy segment producer Ickoffkevin, and executive producer ikedistro. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles.

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