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The Bobby Bones Show
25W: Bobby's Hot Take on Michigan Head Coach Sherrone Moore Getting Fired + Todd McShay on Which QB Will Be the First Pick in Next Year's NFL Draft + The Top 25 Most Googled Celebs of 2025 Game
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Bobby Bones
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Eddie
This is a podcast called 25 whistles.
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Bobby Bones
Talking football. And they all wear a whistle yet. Stupid. But why did you expect. It's a podcast called 25 Whistles. 25 Whistles. I buy a bunch of stuff off TikTok shop. Hey, hit that whistle. Thanks. I had a TikTok shop phase. Then I phased out of buying stuff on TikTok shop. It's very easy to buy stuff and they have all kinds of stuff on TikTok shop. But I did get both Eddie and Mike a Christmas present off TikTok Shop this year. It's not in yet. But that's the other thing about TikTok shop. You never know when it's coming. Yeah. Yeah. Or what country it's coming from, or if it's quality. So they have some stupid stuff on there, but they have a lot. So I don't wanna tell you guys what I got you, but I did get you guys something off TikTok shop, and now my algorithm's all screwed up.
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Eddie
Is it that hat organizer? Cause I saw a cool hat organizer on TikTok shop. Okay.
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Bobby Bones
It's nothing you would ever think of. I just saw it and thought, oh, I think that this would be good for Mike. I saw Mike's first. Never in a million years would you guess it. Same with you, Eddie.
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Eddie
And then you were like, I should probably get Eddie something too.
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Bobby Bones
No, because I never feel an obligation to get anybody a Christmas gift.
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Responsible Gambling Announcer
Same.
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Bobby Bones
So I. Except for my wife.
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Eddie
Oh, that's different. And my kids.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, we do a family thing with her family. Where instead of everybody getting everybody or the white elephant, which is stupid because nobody gets anything they really want in a white elephant. We do draw a person's name. My wife put them all in. AI said draw for us. And I got my sister in law, Blythe.
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Eddie
Oh.
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Bobby Bones
Which she's easy.
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Eddie
Oh, she is. You know what she'd like?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Eddie
Okay. Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
So those are the only two obligation gifts that I got. But then if I see something that I think you guys will like or one of you like, I just grab the gift. So TikTok shop. The whole story came out of the New York Post about how it's making a ton of money and it's very much impulse buying. It's very much at the register type buying.
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Eddie
It's so easy, man. And then the people demoing are just like so good at it that it's like, oh, all I have to do is click here and it's mine. It's easy.
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Kevin
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Phones have made it very easy with the double click. If you're doing Apple Pay have made it so easy to buy stuff.
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Responsible Gambling Announcer
Dude.
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Eddie
The crazy ones is when you're watching like Amazon and during the commercials they're like, if you're interested that you can.
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Bobby Bones
Now buy it from the screen when you're watching it on television.
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Kevin
Yeah, I see that every, like the Thursday night games, maybe that's where I.
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Bobby Bones
Saw it last time too. The QR code from something as easy.
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Eddie
As like Windex too. Like I could use Windex.
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Bobby Bones
I like it. What I hope is they're building these ads specifically for me because back in the old days you had a channel and just big broad companies bought ads hoping they'd catch a bunch of the population that wanted them. Big sweeping ads, McDonald's. But then as cable channels started to happen, there were specific channels for women, channels that are about sports channels. So they would then take specific products meant for just that audience and target them. And it's becoming even more targeted, obviously through our social media because we have cookies. And I always say, yeah, take my cookies. I don't know. I don't know what that means. You can have all my cookies. Accept them all. Yeah, I do. Yeah. I've accepted every cookie for the history of time. I'm freaking Spunk Meyer over here. So, yeah, I do like targeted ads though.
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Eddie
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Because it knows what I want. And I think they also like targeted ads, meaning the sponsors.
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Eddie
Because you're going to buy it, you have a better chance of buying it.
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Bobby Bones
Because yeah, they're able to target people that probably Want their ad like men in this demographic. Anyway, the whole story was about how the TikTok shop is now impulse buying. Which impulse buying to us is always when you're at the register, does that.
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Kevin
Come up in your feed? Like Instagram? Cause I'm not familiar with it. Or is it like a whole different little tab? You have to click the TikTok.
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Bobby Bones
Both.
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Kevin
Both.
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Bobby Bones
So you're scrolling videos, you'll see an ad like, I saw one last night. And if they're really good, they'll be so compelling in the content immediately that you don't look in the bottom corner. Because if you look in the bottom left corner, you'll see the little block that says ADD gotcha. Or you'll see this person earns commission. But I watched one where this dude, his hood was up and he. Another guy pulls up and goes, hey, do you need a jump? And he's like, no, man, my girlfriend does this and had 800,000 comments or no. 800,000. No, maybe likes. Yeah. And so I was like, that's weird. Just how he said it. He was like, I don't need your help. My girlfriend always jumps me. It turns out it was an ad for a jumper box, like a portable jumper box. And I was so compelled by what the content and the guy being angry and going like, this dude's girlfriend is the only person he takes help from, would jump in his car that I never looked down in the corner. And so I'm sure they sold a ton of jumper boxes. Yeah, but you can make ads for things you don't even own and sell them and make commission. So they don't own that jumper box.
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Eddie
To sell, but they're making a commercial for them.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. And you get a percentage for everyone sold if they come from your link.
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Kevin
Interesting.
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Bobby Bones
Then also you can go to TikTok shop and just buy stuff too. In search. Like, I bought a bunch of dude wipes from TikTok.
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Brandon
Oh, cool.
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Bobby Bones
Because they sell them in huge boxes for cheap. So I buy a bunch of dude wipes from TikTok.
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Eddie
And that didn't come from like a video that you saw that was like, you going into the shop.
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Bobby Bones
No, it came from a video. Like people do lives and just sell them. And I never bought one during those. And I thought, oh, I should get some dude wipes sometimes, see if they're actually good. And they're. They're great.
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Eddie
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
And so then I went in a TikTok shop type dude wipes and got them.
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Eddie
Yeah, you're right. The way they start the video is usually how it gets me. Like, there was one guy, like, trying to chop an onion. He's like, oh. And I had just cut my finger chopping an onion, and I was like, oh, that'd be. Oh, I wonder why he's chopped, man. And then it's like, oh, I can click on that, and I can get that chopper. That's pretty cool.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. But you never know if it's really gonna be quality or not.
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Kevin
Yeah. I was gonna say, can you see, like, ratings or anything?
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Bobby Bones
Reviews. Yeah. But then you never know if they're real.
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Eddie
Like, who's writing those reviews.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. And a lot of stuff comes from China.
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Kevin
Got it.
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Bobby Bones
I mean, the app's from China.
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Kevin
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
So that hat.
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Eddie
Remember that hat I got you where you can write whatever on it?
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Eddie
And used it one time.
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Bobby Bones
Well, no.
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Eddie
And I'm not. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying that was free to speak. That was a dumb TikTok.
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Bobby Bones
Speak freely. Yeah, it's garbage. But the idea was good. It's a hat that you can write something and on your phone and, like, Bluetooth it over to the hat. But you have. The hat is heavy because it's got to have some sort of lighting on it.
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Eddie
LED screen.
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Bobby Bones
And then you got to charge it all the time. And inside the hat is, like, the charger that hurts your ear. In theory, it's funny for a bit.
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Eddie
But that's my point. Like, I saw it. It looked cool, but, like, in reality, it's.
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Bobby Bones
It's not. And that might be what happens with you guys. Gifts.
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Eddie
That's okay.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. But I did. I do have one on the way.
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Eddie
Thank you, man.
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Bobby Bones
For Mike and one on the way for Eddie. I just need inspiration. Like, I saw that Scuba Steve was waiting for Saturday because Nike's doing a huge drop for these Jordan elevens. Jordan elevens. Like, a specific type of shoe. And it's so hard to actually get the shoes because the bots do them on the drops. I have a connection. I reached out, got the shoes before Scuba even tries to get them on, but I didn't know if it was this Saturday or last Saturday. So He's a size 13, too. He's got a massive foot. So I bought him the shoes for Christmas, but I can't wait for Christmas to give them to him, because he may get the shoes on Saturday if he's there trying. So I brought him in today, and I was like, you ought to get the shoes, because, no, it's Saturday. And he was like, oh, then you.
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Kevin
Gave them to him.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah.
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Kevin
Oh, cool.
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Bobby Bones
This morning. Came to him this morning. But I was, you know, so I was motivated because I knew he was looking for those and then I knew a way to get to them. I have something I think you guys are going to like, but it might be garbage.
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Eddie
It's all good. Thank you.
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Bobby Bones
You don't have it yet? It may not be here in time.
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Eddie
So I'd get it after Christmas.
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Bobby Bones
That's how it would work. Or you can come to the house.
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Eddie
Well, my gift hasn't gotten here yet, but it says.
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Bobby Bones
Okay. Hey.
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Eddie
No, no, no, no.
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Kevin
I'm surprised it took us this long to get here.
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Bobby Bones
My girlfriend goes to another school.
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Eddie
Gonna like her.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah. She's in another school. Trust me. Okay. We did this segment on the big show about this 40 foot blowup Santa Claus. We. We showed the video and Eddie's had like a 10 or 11 foot Santa Claus.
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Eddie
12.
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Bobby Bones
Okay. I didn't. Sorry I shorten your hands. It's a 12 foot sand and it's large. But this guy was selling very similar. It wasn't a TikTok shop. His was on Twitter, but he was like, I need to sell these. I have too many of them. And it was a gimmick just to sell them. But then I watched the video. This is a 40 foot Santa. Yeah.
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Eddie
It's gigantic.
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Bobby Bones
I tried to see if I could even put it at my house, like where it would go. It would hit power lines.
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Kevin
Oh, wow.
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Eddie
Yeah. That's huge, man.
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Bobby Bones
Because we don't have an hoa. But if I were to put it somewhere, it would either have to be behind a gate and trees that you wouldn't see if I were to put it in front of the gate at our house. It's into power lines.
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Eddie
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
Because I think that would be hilarious. 40ft is as tall as the house. This is the biggest sand I've ever seen.
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Brandon
I'm looking at one.
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Eddie
It's humongous.
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Brandon
They're so big.
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Eddie
Like. Like Kevin. It goes above the house. Like it's a two story house.
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Kevin
The ones that you looked at are.
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Bobby Bones
The ones that you looked at 40 foot one. The video we saw compare.
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Kevin
Oh, my God.
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Brandon
Look how big these people are.
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Bobby Bones
And they have to use stakes and ropes. Like.
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Eddie
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like multiple.
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Kevin
Yeah.
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Eddie
Mine has four little ropes. They're not ropes. They're like little strings. Holds it down. Not this one.
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Bobby Bones
It's 40ft freaking tall.
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Eddie
Wow.
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Kevin
Like Godzilla.
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Bobby Bones
I was looking this morning to see if we could fit one. I think it be the greatest Prank on my wife. She just pulls up.
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Eddie
Oh, you were going to do it without telling her?
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Bobby Bones
That's the only way to do it.
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Eddie
That's. That's risky.
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Kevin
That would be hilarious.
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Eddie
Risky.
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Bobby Bones
It'd be hilarious.
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Kevin
Hilarious. Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
And I can't. There's. It doesn't go anywhere. It hit a power line. So there is a story, though, about where we live that homeowners can keep their holiday decor up all year.
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Brandon
Yes.
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Eddie
I mean, I used to do that with my lights. I wouldn't leave them on all year, but I would leave them up and not plug them in. And then come November 20, you know, whatever, plug them back in. But then they'd never work.
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Bobby Bones
I feel like they wouldn't work after a while.
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Kevin
Yeah. Go through the heat.
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Bobby Bones
Summer and all that.
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Eddie
That was a dumb idea.
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Bobby Bones
Homeowners can now put up holiday decorations anytime they want. Under a new ordinance. They push the change after getting complaints. He believed the complaints were rooted in bias, including one about Hanukkah inflatables. The new Community Holiday Expression Exemption and Rights act, or cheer, protects residents rights to decorate as long as the displays are safe and in good condition. So I guess you could leave your portable Santa up all year.
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Eddie
Dude, no. Dude, I'm telling you, the neighbors. I remember the first time we had it, one neighbor was walking her dog, and she was like, how long is that gonna stay up? Cause I think it was already January.
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Bobby Bones
But legally.
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Eddie
Legally, they can't.
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Bobby Bones
Neighbors may not like it, but they can't take it down according to the new act. Thought that was kind of cool.
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Eddie
There's a house that I drive by where, like, they might have at least 50 inflatables all over the yard, but when they turn them off, it just looks like a bunch of dead reindeer.
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Bobby Bones
Americans will spend 1.4 billion hours setting up new devices this holiday season. That's about 8.5 hours per adult. You have four kids. I assume that's a lot of your Christmas.
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Eddie
It's not really devices. It's assembling things. Assembling. Whatever, dude. Like, if it's a trampoline, if it's. It's been like four wheel, little electric four wheelers at times.
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Bobby Bones
I think all that counts, though, into this. Dude, it's brutal. Just. Just assembling.
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Eddie
It's the whole day.
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Bobby Bones
And, Brandon, your kid's getting older. So are you doing this now?
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Brandon
Yeah, like last year, we did the first big gift. We got them this, like, Target cashier station. Like, it's. It looks legit, and you can roll your you know, you can go up and shop, and there's, like, a cashier station and stuff. I'm like, oh, dude, this will be easy. Took me seven hours to set this thing up.
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Eddie
Crazy.
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Brandon
I was like. And it's, like, really good quality, but it just takes forever.
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Bobby Bones
Did he ever play with it?
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Brandon
All the time.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, still does.
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Brandon
Yeah, still does.
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Todd McShay
And.
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Brandon
And the swing set. We got him a swing set outside. Outside.
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Eddie
Oh, those are the worst.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, dude.
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Brandon
Seriously, the worst. Hire somebody or get just a bunch of buddies to help.
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Eddie
Yeah, but you hire someone that makes the Christmas present way more expensive. So bad.
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Bobby Bones
But also, if you hire somebody, they're probably not gonna come on Christmas Eve night, correct?
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Brandon
Well, yeah. So we got it for his birthday.
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Bobby Bones
There's just a big tarp outside, and the kids like, why is there a tarp covering something? Don't look at it.
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Brandon
Yeah, no. I started assembling it in my garage, right? Like, just piece by piece to where I could get to it. Then I didn't realize I couldn't get it out of my garage.
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Bobby Bones
Oh, no, you built it way too big inside.
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Brandon
And I didn't even think about it. I closed the garage. That's, like, closing up on. I'm like, oh, my gosh. I had to disassemble, and I called my brother. I was like, dude, you just have to get over here and fix this. It was so bad, but I had.
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Bobby Bones
To put together a bassinet. I don't put together a lot of stuff. We'll just hire people.
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Eddie
Yeah, smart.
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Bobby Bones
Because if I put it together, there is a chance that it's. I'm not gonna trust it. Even if I did a good job, I'm not gonna trust it. Therefore, I'm never gonna feel comfortable. And then it's also, maybe I don't do a good job putting it together. So I feel like it saves me time and energy. Emotional energy, worrying about it just to get people to put stuff together for me. Big stuff.
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Eddie
Yeah.
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Bobby Bones
But we did the bassinet. We did the stroller slash car seat thing. But the crazy thing about the stroller slash car seat thing is there's so many different, like, versions of it. Because, like, when a baby's this month to this month, it's a bassinet on top. And then it's. You have to keep these pieces, and then you switch it out in three months to add something else and take something out. Don't forget.
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Eddie
Yeah.
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Kevin
As I get bigger, I got a.
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Bobby Bones
Feeling I'm just gonna buy a new one every time, right? Seriously, Because I'm not gonna trust that I'm right on this. I still am not convinced that I did it right when I did the whole stroller slash bassinet, car seat contraption. It's just way too much. It's like shampoo that washes your body and your hair and three in one.
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Eddie
Yeah, I think I saw one that was six in one one time. Like, what are the six of the shampoo? Body, whatever. Hair, skin.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's interesting. I don't have to put anything together, but I guess we're putting that together.
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Eddie
Yeah, same thing, dude. But. But Christmas is different because everybody wants it that day. Like, they want to play with it that day. And, dude, the worst is, like, two years down the road when your wife's like, yeah, we're gonna get rid of that. Can you take that to the dump? And I'm like, all the memories of me putting that together for a whole day, like, and now I'm just throwing.
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Bobby Bones
You all the anger. So you saw. And I saw this clip too. Again, Maybe it's just recirculating the Rudy clip.
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Eddie
Yeah. Well, there's no video of Joe Montana talking about Rudy, but it's audio.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. And I think it's on. Pardon my take. I think he's talking to Big Cat about it. Yeah. And pft. And so I. But again, I saw it recently, too.
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Eddie
Again, you have talked about this story for years and how Joe Montana has said that Rudy really didn't happen the way that the movie says it happened.
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Bobby Bones
So we have a clip on this mic. This is them talking to Joe Montana, who played at Notre Dame at the same time that Rudy played, same team, and talking about if it's true or not.
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Todd McShay
You know, I mean, the Rudy story made a great movie, and a lot of it was embellished. And, you know, we.
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Brandon
When I run into Rudy on the.
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Todd McShay
Road here and there, we laugh about.
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Brandon
It because a lot of things that happened.
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Todd McShay
Yeah, he got in. He got a sack. Was the crowd chanting? No.
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Brandon
Well, did I throw in my jersey?
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Todd McShay
No. Did he get carried off the field? He got carried off by three of.
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Brandon
The biggest pranksters in the team.
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Todd McShay
And they who said, had we known no one had gotten carried off.
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Brandon
We had never done it.
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Todd McShay
But, you know, Rudy worked hard. I won't lie. He is a walk on. He came in and got his butt kicked every day. And it was great to see that he got in and got us back.
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Brandon
And a lifetime memory for him.
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Todd McShay
And it became a movie. It's like a lot of movies they all get their movies.
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Bobby Bones
You can tell Joe Montana really wants to say other things.
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Kevin
Yeah.
- [19:26]
Bobby Bones
You can tell he's holding it back. I didn't know no one had ever been carried off that says that. They say that in the movie he was the first one to ever be carried off.
- [19:34]
Eddie
Yes.
- [19:34]
Bobby Bones
And then Joe Montana's like, they were pranks. They probably wouldn't have done that if they'd have known.
- [19:37]
Kevin
Why I got to be a hater, though?
- [19:39]
Bobby Bones
Well, they were asking him about it.
- [19:40]
Kevin
Yeah.
- [19:41]
Eddie
It's not a hater.
- [19:42]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. But, like, do you want him to lie? Because what he said, too, and I've heard the long version of the interview, he's like, we didn't go in with our jerseys and be like, coach, yeah, if Rudy can't play, I'm out. That never happened.
- [19:52]
Eddie
I want him to dress in my place.
- [19:53]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [19:54]
Kevin
I think all of us kind of knew that that was.
- [19:56]
Eddie
No, I thought that was real.
- [19:57]
Kevin
You thought every bit of that movie.
- [19:58]
Bobby Bones
I thought most of it, probably, but I was much younger when I watched it. Yeah. Now I realize everything's a lie. Yeah. Yeah.
- [20:05]
Eddie
That's a sad part of life.
- [20:06]
Bobby Bones
Everything's. The older you get, the more you realize everything's a lie.
- [20:08]
Todd McShay
Yes.
- [20:09]
Eddie
Not everything, but most things. Just so you have a little bit of hope.
- [20:13]
Bobby Bones
Generally, everything is. Unless I prove otherwise.
- [20:15]
Eddie
Correct.
- [20:16]
Bobby Bones
I don't mostly go into life going, I bet everything's real unless it proves it's fake. It's like, I don't trust anything unless I develop trust.
- [20:24]
Eddie
And how often do we really investigate to see if it's really true?
- [20:27]
Bobby Bones
I do. I look up every movie now. You just couldn't do that back in the day. Like, when I watch Roofman, Channing Tatum, the first thing I did was go through all of it so at point by point and see what was true and what wasn't. But I do that with movies that are based on actual events, and they do dramatize them, for sure.
- [20:42]
Eddie
Roofman was fairly accurate. Yes. Well, the details. It's fairly.
- [20:46]
Bobby Bones
It's good, though.
- [20:47]
Brandon
Yeah, me too.
- [20:47]
Kevin
The streaming now.
- [20:48]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, that's what.
- [20:49]
Kevin
I watched it.
- [20:50]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Okay. Got a couple things.
- [20:52]
Brandon
This actually says that Rudy Rudiger claims that 92% of the movie is accurate.
- [20:58]
Eddie
How do you come up with 92?
- [20:59]
Brandon
Course it does.
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Eddie
92%.
- [21:01]
Kevin
Well, Joe Montana says 15% is the 8%.
- [21:05]
Bobby Bones
Like, all the big stuff, though, 100% of the movie, but the 8% is the jersey. Carry them all.
- [21:11]
Kevin
Highlights.
- [21:13]
Bobby Bones
You guys want to talk about Sean Moore for a second?
- [21:15]
Kevin
That's crazy.
- [21:16]
Bobby Bones
Just the quick version of it, because everybody knows we're not the only ones talking about this yesterday on Twitter. I just. He's fired. And I think, well, that's a weird time to fire your coach. You probably would have done it three months ago because you want to get one of the good coaches in the old coaching carousel. And then it's like, Sharon Morris allegedly got his executive center pregnant and it said forced her to have an abortion. But then I read plan B, and those are definitely different things. But then what did happen for sure is the cops went and arrested him because he had busted into her house and threatened her to kill her and threatened to kill himself. It just felt like he was crashing out hard. Do you know? I didn't see it.
- [21:56]
Kevin
Well, okay, so I was.
- [21:57]
Bobby Bones
You were. Kevin shaking his head. I thought everybody knew all that.
- [21:59]
Kevin
I didn't know, though. I knew, like, part of that, but I didn't know the whole house. Going into the house, and I was reading, trying to read this morning. I just couldn't find anything that.
- [22:06]
Bobby Bones
What do you want to know?
- [22:07]
Kevin
I know all of it. Well, I just want. I didn't know anything about the house. Like, him going to her house and, like, why he was arrested.
- [22:13]
Eddie
And this is recent.
- [22:14]
Bobby Bones
Yes. That was last night that they got.
- [22:16]
Eddie
That he got arrested.
- [22:17]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, it was last night.
- [22:17]
Kevin
Or detained is what they said.
- [22:18]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, yeah. Went to her house last night. Oh.
- [22:20]
Kevin
Oh, I did. Okay.
- [22:21]
Eddie
See, I didn't know that.
- [22:22]
Bobby Bones
Threatened her. Threatened himself, held a knife to his throat. And his wife was able to track him because they have to find my. On their phones, their iPhones.
- [22:30]
Kevin
Wow.
- [22:31]
Bobby Bones
So he was crashing out hard.
- [22:33]
Eddie
So last night after the news broke. Huh? Because news broke, what, 2. 2 o'.
- [22:39]
Responsible Gambling Announcer
Clock?
- [22:39]
Kevin
So, okay, so after he got fired is when he went over there.
- [22:42]
Bobby Bones
Seems like it.
- [22:43]
Kevin
Gotcha.
- [22:43]
Eddie
Dang.
- [22:45]
Bobby Bones
It also seems like they knew it was coming for a while because there were a lot of very ominous, yet somewhat generic tweets from people in sports that are like, this is not it. There's one more big one that we hear is coming without saying what it was. Then there were some people that had burner accounts that were posting specifics like, Sean Moore's getting fired because he knocked somebody up. And they're like, weeks ago. But nobody believed it because they were just burner accounts.
- [23:10]
Kevin
Wow.
- [23:12]
Bobby Bones
So obviously they've known something.
- [23:14]
Kevin
And they said they had been investigating since beginning of fall. Didn't really find much. But then recently they found all this.
- [23:21]
Bobby Bones
So Michigan, allegedly, the investigation started from a doordash driver bringing plan B and dropping it off at, like, the office. If still they and someone like reported.
- [23:31]
Eddie
Send it to the gutsy man. That must make you feel like you can just do whatever you want.
- [23:36]
Bobby Bones
And I think this is hot Take. Had he been winning a lot of games and beating Ohio State, he probably could have done whatever he wanted to. And I don't think they'd have probably turned him in, right?
- [23:46]
Kevin
Yeah. Yeah. If this was 30 years ago, I bet.
- [23:49]
Bobby Bones
No problem.
- [23:50]
Eddie
For sure.
- [23:52]
Bobby Bones
Who knows? Yeah, it's carte blanche. You're a successful coach. You do whatever you want. Yeah. Wild story, huh? I haven't seen much of an update today because we've been at it since early this morning from doing the radio show, doing St. Jude, all this stuff. Mike, have you seen any update at all? I haven't yet.
- [24:06]
Eddie
Do you think he knew that it was coming?
- [24:09]
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah. People are already tweeting about it. Oh, man. Yes. Like the worst part of his day a couple weeks ago, probably wasn't losing to Ohio State.
- [24:16]
Kevin
Yes.
- [24:18]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I'll read. Straw. Moore was fired by Michigan Wednesday afternoon for having an inappropriate relationship with a staff member. Was later detained by police and is currently being held at the Something county jail. Not for sure. The area there. Inappropriate relationship with a staff member. This is. I'm going to read this from the Athletic. Do you subscribe to the Athletic, Kevin?
- [24:37]
Kevin
You know what? I don't. But it's funny you say that. I was literally thinking about it, I think yesterday or something because I click on so many things and I can't read it. But I love all the people that work there. Like, I love their work.
- [24:46]
Bobby Bones
It is one of the few things I subscribe to in that vein where you have to pay. That's behind a paywall because eventually all news comes out anyway.
- [24:54]
Kevin
Yeah, it's.
- [24:56]
Bobby Bones
It's. It's great.
- [24:56]
Brandon
It's worth it.
- [24:57]
Kevin
It's great at home.
- [24:58]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. No charges have been formally filed. The investigation is ongoing. Police have not released any additional information. Following a university investigation, credible evidence was found that coach Moore engaged in inappropriate. Someone's in my gate. Hold on.
- [25:11]
Eddie
All right, Santa. The big.
- [25:12]
Bobby Bones
It's not. It's Amazon. I'm letting him in.
- [25:15]
Eddie
It's your wife setting up Big Santa for you.
- [25:17]
Bobby Bones
Can you imagine? I lost my place. But Moore, 39. He's only 39.
- [25:24]
Eddie
Yeah.
- [25:24]
Kevin
That's.
- [25:24]
Bobby Bones
Just completed a second season as head coach after serving as an assistant coach on Harbaugh staff. His firing came with a little warning. Moore's in the process of assembling his staff for next season. Another thing I read too was them speculating that they didn't announce until after the signing. All those kids signed.
- [25:41]
Kevin
I saw that after signing day.
- [25:43]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, Michigan started 4:3 in Moore's first season. Also that first season they knew the cupboard was pretty barren when Harbaugh left and.
- [25:53]
Kevin
Yeah.
- [25:55]
Bobby Bones
Nine left. Yeah, nine. You know nine is Eddie.
- [26:00]
Eddie
No.
- [26:00]
Bobby Bones
Oh yeah, that's his name. When he plays football his. His name is nine. Always the character. It's like who he goes into.
- [26:08]
Eddie
Nine set. No, that's not Cam Newton.
- [26:13]
Brandon
What's a current.
- [26:14]
Bobby Bones
He would have played at Michigan.
- [26:15]
Kevin
Think of the number.
- [26:17]
Eddie
Tom Brady was a nine.
- [26:19]
Bobby Bones
He would have played at Michigan and left when Harbaugh left.
- [26:22]
Eddie
So nine. Blake Corum. Nice.
- [26:23]
Bobby Bones
Okay, you're now getting there at least. Oh, it's current in the right.
- [26:28]
Brandon
Yeah, yeah.
- [26:29]
Eddie
McCarthy.
- [26:30]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, he's nine when he plays.
- [26:32]
Eddie
Okay.
- [26:32]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, he did have a decent game last week finally. Yeah, yeah. To be fair, the. And this is right after Connor Stallions. That situation.
- [26:40]
Kevin
Yeah, Michigan's man, they've had a crazy three or four years.
- [26:43]
Bobby Bones
Well, they got out of the Connor Stallions when pretty, pretty luckily very. I mean Harbaugh got 10 years of not being able to coach college as he's going to coach the friggin pros.
- [26:51]
Kevin
Yeah, he's like cool.
- [26:52]
Bobby Bones
I did take a picture of the odds for who's going to be the next coach at Michigan. This is just odds. So no, number one. Is.
- [27:07]
Kevin
Can I guess?
- [27:08]
Bobby Bones
Well, I thought I did. It's not Coldplay. It's a different odd.
- [27:13]
Kevin
Well, Chris Martin.
- [27:14]
Bobby Bones
No, I thought it was. I thought I had the odds but go ahead. Who do you think it is?
- [27:17]
Kevin
I was going to say Gruden. No, he's got to be up there.
- [27:20]
Bobby Bones
No, like the top guys were Jed Fish who's at Washington. Yeah. The offensive coordinator at with the Chargers because he left Michigan to go with Harbaugh to come back. I believe that was another one. Kaylin DeBoer at Alabama was up there high on the list. I thought I had screenshotted that one.
- [27:44]
Eddie
What was the Coldplay thing?
- [27:45]
Bobby Bones
You screenshot billboards Year end top tours 2025.
- [27:48]
Eddie
Oh, nice.
- [27:49]
Bobby Bones
Guess who number one is.
- [27:51]
Eddie
2025 Taylor Coldplay.
- [27:54]
Bobby Bones
I just said it.
- [27:55]
Eddie
Oh, I thought you. I thought yeah, that is the top man. I'm bad, my bad.
- [28:00]
Bobby Bones
I read you the wrong one. Yeah. So I thought I had that. I do have the odds though of the Chiefs and the Cowboys making the playoffs.
- [28:08]
Kevin
Here we go. Here's our Weekly segment.
- [28:10]
Eddie
Cowboys got to be better odds than the Chiefs.
- [28:13]
Bobby Bones
They're about the same. But here's the deal. I put the odds in as if both teams go 4 0, right? So if both teams go 4 0, the odds they make the playoffs. If they don't, they ain't making the playoffs. So best case scenario has to be the case scenario you put in when you do the odds. Because you can go 0% as soon as they lose another game. Everybody with me?
- [28:37]
Eddie
Yeah.
- [28:38]
Bobby Bones
If they go four. And oh, the Kansas City Chiefs odds to make the playoffs, 49%.
- [28:43]
Kevin
Wow.
- [28:45]
Bobby Bones
Now they have to go four. No, there needs to be some losses by specific people, which is what that is. If The Cowboys go 4 0, 52%, 52. They're both about a coin flip.
- [28:55]
Eddie
Let's go, baby.
- [28:56]
Bobby Bones
But both. Still. I looked at the Cowboy, or excuse me, the Chiefs odds, because I bet them at plus 385, meaning if you bet 100 bucks, you're going to win $385. So 485 will come back to you. I bet them at that to make the playoffs just since that bet and they haven't played since. It's now like +515, which means it's even worse. Yeah, but those are the odds for the Chiefs and the Cowboys to make the playoffs.
- [29:19]
Eddie
I like it. Especially because the Eagles aren't playing great.
- [29:23]
Bobby Bones
The Eagles are not playing great. That's right. That's a pretty difficult. Last Monday game, we didn't talk about that. How could. We weren't on.
- [29:29]
Eddie
We did not talk about that.
- [29:30]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I have another picture because I just take a bunch of pictures of stuff. Cowboys are at 5 or excuse me, the Chiefs are at 5. 50. All the jobs. I saw Cole Cubic tweet this. Someone hands you the list before the season and tells you all these jobs will be open this same cycle. Florida, lsu, Auburn, Penn State, Michigan, Virginia Tech, Stanford, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Kansas State, Cal, ucla, Iowa State, Kentucky, Michigan State.
- [29:54]
Kevin
Yeah, it's crazy, crazy.
- [29:55]
Bobby Bones
All those jobs open this year. I thought I was going to get one of them. There's somebody open.
- [30:00]
Eddie
It's your chance.
- [30:01]
Bobby Bones
Break down and give me a job there. So, yeah, it was a weird day yesterday. It's weird how things happen and then it becomes like a core sports memory of the year. I remember when Kobe died. I remember just popping up on my feet like Kobe. Right. That's weird. In a helicopter crash. And then it takes a life of its own. And now I remember it specifically. I don't know that I'M going to remember specifically where I was when Shrone Moore got busted for. But still, that's like it's one of the biggest sports stories of the year.
- [30:25]
Kevin
Yeah. Because it's out of nowhere, out of.
- [30:28]
Bobby Bones
And such a weird time.
- [30:30]
Kevin
Yeah.
- [30:31]
Bobby Bones
What's going to be hard is whomever takes his job, it's going to be harder for that school to replace that spot than Michigan replacing their spot because Michigan's arguably a top five job.
- [30:43]
Kevin
Yeah. Still Michigan.
- [30:44]
Bobby Bones
And there are a lot of coaches maybe even in the playoff now that would possibly leave meaning a Kaylin deboer after the season's over. I don't know that. And they have a lot of money. Obviously I don't know that a guy like Signetti is going to go, but if there was a job he would leave even Indiana for right now. It's a job like that.
- [31:03]
Eddie
It's a huge jump.
- [31:05]
Bobby Bones
I don't think he will, but that's one of probably the three, the two or three jobs that I would think he would actually make that move for. Yeah.
- [31:13]
Kevin
That seemed like a program he would love to just lead and be a part of. Man, he would kill that.
- [31:18]
Bobby Bones
It would almost feel like Oklahoma City's under now. Or they just don't lose. You're just like there's no chance they're going to be bad. They have 800 million bucks on three players that those three players are in with the Thunder for the next four and five years and they've lost one game.
- [31:33]
Brandon
That's insane.
- [31:34]
Bobby Bones
And not only that, they have for sure the Clippers pick. And if the Utah Jazz are outside the top eight, they have that pick. So if the Utah Jazz are 9, 10, 11, 12, they're going to have two lottery picks.
- [31:45]
Eddie
Wow.
- [31:46]
Bobby Bones
Two new rookie contracts and what's probably the greatest draft class in the past 20 years overall. One of the deepest. And they did it the right way.
- [31:55]
Kevin
Not the KD way.
- [31:56]
Bobby Bones
It's hard to hate except for they're just winning. They didn't go and just buy big players. Yeah.
- [32:05]
Kevin
I haven't watched any of them this year because they're just dominating.
- [32:08]
Bobby Bones
They drafted them or traded for them before they popped. Now they have Shay because they made the trade and that's also why they have the Clippers draft pick. They got a bunch but they have shade because that's when they sent off Paul George. Paul George.
- [32:23]
Kevin
Clippers are in shambles right now.
- [32:24]
Bobby Bones
And again I'm very Thundercentric family. Yeah. My father in law watches every Thunder game and has for since they moved To Oklahoma City. Like, he's a massive fan. My wife watches most games. We don't watch west coast games because that's too late. But we. So I don't watch all the games with her. It's weird. My house is like that. Like, she's watching games and I'm over, you know, dicking around.
- [32:48]
Eddie
Yeah, she's watching the OKC Thunder play.
- [32:54]
Bobby Bones
So. Yeah, it's crazy. We. We do have coming up in a second, Todd McShay, which we do get into the playoff, I think. Why don't we take a break and we'll come back and we'll go to Todd McShay in just a second. We got to do a parlay. We're going to do an NFL parlay this week.
- [33:07]
Kevin
Cool. Really?
- [33:08]
Eddie
A little different.
- [33:10]
Kevin
There's, like, no Cult.
- [33:12]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. There's no.
- [33:12]
Eddie
There's only army one game.
- [33:15]
Bobby Bones
I mean, you guys can jump in on this.
- [33:20]
Eddie
Look at the lines.
- [33:21]
Bobby Bones
All I know is last week when the college game happened and it went to that second set of games, all of our parlay was still up. So when you went to the app, my face was the first one that you saw? Oh, yeah.
- [33:31]
Eddie
It was awesome.
- [33:32]
Sophie Cunningham
Yeah.
- [33:33]
Bobby Bones
Except we missed, like, everyone. Everybody got.
- [33:34]
Kevin
Yeah, but it's still cool. Still got the promo right there in the front.
- [33:37]
Brandon
And there was like, 800 people who at the time that I looked at it.
- [33:41]
Eddie
That better that you did the bet?
- [33:42]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, I saw it. It was more than that. It was. Must have been later up before. No, no, no, no.
- [33:47]
Kevin
Like 8 million. I saw 8,000.
- [33:49]
Brandon
Right.
- [33:49]
Bobby Bones
I saw 8 trillion, actually. Kevin, do you want to do your team?
- [33:57]
Kevin
Yeah. Cuz look at that disrespect. We're dogs at home.
- [34:01]
Eddie
What?
- [34:02]
Bobby Bones
1.1 and a half are you going? Patriots plus one and a half years.
- [34:05]
Kevin
Plus one and a half.
- [34:07]
Bobby Bones
Okay.
- [34:08]
Eddie
Eddie, man, I could go all the way down to Sunday night, and there's a game I'm interested in. It's the Cowboys minus five and a half. This is very important, very important.
- [34:18]
Bobby Bones
Against the Vikings, but in Dallas.
- [34:19]
Eddie
In Dallas. So let's go. Cowboys minus five and a half.
- [34:26]
Bobby Bones
Are you plugging this in? Yeah, I'm circling it to see what the odds are.
- [34:29]
Kevin
Oh, oh, no, no, no.
- [34:30]
Eddie
You want to plug it in? I got you.
- [34:33]
Bobby Bones
If you plug those two in. Because I think to get up, we got to be like +330 or something.
- [34:38]
Eddie
Yeah.
- [34:38]
Bobby Bones
Is that what it is, Mike? Yeah.
- [34:40]
Eddie
Right now we are at 262.
- [34:42]
Bobby Bones
If I just did the Chiefs money line, what does that put us at?
- [34:48]
Eddie
Let's go. Chief's money line is minus 250. So it equals plus 393.
- [34:54]
Bobby Bones
Okay. Chiefs moneyline. They're playing the Chargers. We need to win that one.
- [34:59]
Eddie
You got away with the money line. I would have loved a Cowboys money line.
- [35:03]
Bobby Bones
I only got that money line because you took this.
- [35:06]
Kevin
I know.
- [35:07]
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Todd McShay
Hey, what's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks.
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Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
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Todd McShay
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Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
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Bobby Bones
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Todd McShay
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Eddie
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Todd McShay
And now we're back making this new.
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Todd McShay
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Eddie
It's like not having it at all.
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Todd McShay
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Bobby Bones
Way into the airline business.
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Eddie
The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story.
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Bobby Bones
We're going to have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons.
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Eddie
And you know what?
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Todd McShay
They're not all bad.
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Bobby Bones
Along with some of the darker moments.
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That often get overlooked, like Thomas Edison.
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Bobby Bones
And the electric chair. Listen to business history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Bobby Bones
Maybe the industry thinks that we just started skating five years ago cuz that's when they maybe started paying attention.
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Sophie Cunningham
It's a no fluff conversation about putting in the years, stacking clips and receipts and still having to prove your worth while the industry catches up. You break down the door sick now.
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Bobby Bones
Like hold the door for everyone.
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We created Good Luck with that because we want to share our experience existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to Good Luck with that on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Bobby Bones
Our talk with longtime NFL draft analyst Todd McShay. He spent nearly two decades at ESPN covering the draft. One of the best. He's one of the best. Todd has his own show called the McShay show, which is fantastic. I listen to it. You can listen to it wherever you get your podcast and you can follow Todd on socials. Che13 thanks to Todd for coming on. Here he is, Todd McShay. All right, we have Todd McShay on from the McShay show podcast, which I do listen to religiously. I was listening to the episode Todd, whenever you guys were watching the reveal of the bracket and you guys had gone on pre and you watched it live and then I, you know, like myself. But I think I just followed your lead. To me, I was a little irritated at how there were two G5 schools in that. They obviously couldn't predict that because they messed up year one too because they couldn't predict that. What would you do moving forward? Not even this year. How would you fix the 12 game bracket system now? Because we can't have two G5 teams in next year, right?
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Todd McShay
No, we Can't. Honestly, it's the disappointing part for me, Bobby, is that we have all these really highly intelligent people who spend a lot of time on this. Right. Why does it take failure for change to occur? Why can't we have more vision?
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Eddie
Right.
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Todd McShay
Why didn't we foresee that there would be a problem with having the, the top four seeds or the top, the, the conference champions, I should say from last year becoming the top four seeds because ultimately you're going to put in a team that maybe doesn't deserve a buy in that first week and then we fixed it after, after failure.
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Eddie
Right.
- [42:19]
Todd McShay
A year ago and then the sec and then so you fast forward to this year and you say how did all these smart people not realize that there is a potential if a Big 12 or an ACC, as, as was the case this year has a down year and a five loss, Duke team winds up winning the conference championship and we could wind up having two G5s. So the first problem is there's got to be a bar and a standard for, for how we're selecting the 12 teams. And when I look at it, there's two things that I would change. First off, it shouldn't be if, if the ACC or the Big 12, I don't foresee it ever being the Big 10 or the SEC. If one of those two conferences doesn't have a champion that's deserving of being in the, of deserving of being in the 12 team playoff, then let's go to the next highest seed. Let's make, let's, instead of giving it to a conference champion, let's open it up for an automatic or for a, a, an at large bid. There are seven at large bids. If we had an 8 8th at large bid because there was a conference champion with five losses and it wasn't ranked that high, then we could have had Notre Dame in as well. So that's the first part. The second part to me is I'm cool. If a G5 program has a special year like a Boise State, maybe even even last year when they beat in Oregon and they're ranked high enough where you say you know what they deserve to be in, but there should be a higher bar to get in. And again, let's just open up an automatic or a, a an at large bid and some years we'll have a G5 program in because they're having a special year. They won undefeated, they beat a Power 4 program and you look at them, well, they're ranked 10th. So they absolutely deserve to be in but if they're not ranked in the top 12 and they didn't have a special year, then let's open it up. Because this year we could have had Notre Dame and BYU instead of Tulane and jmu. And how much better would this playoff be? When I'm looking at the brackets now we've got Oregon versus JMU. It's like a 17 or 21 point spread. Then we've got two lane Ole Miss, by the way, a rematch of a 45 to 210 or 15 score. 45 to 10 score. What are we doing? This is not best for college football and it's not the best 12 teams.
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Bobby Bones
Yeah. I think with the ability we have to run scenarios through even AI, I was surprised that those members of that board, of that council didn't run every, like, hey, AI, run and tell me everything that could go wrong with how we have this set up. And it didn't pop up that well. You could get two teams because it's pretty limitless as to what AI can do. You see, the NFL do it with scheduling. Like, why did they just not use the technology that we have to predict it? You mentioned JMU. They played what, one Power Four team and lost? I think it was Louisville by 14 points. To Louisville. Yep. If you don't beat a Power 4 team, maybe moving forward like I feel if you don't beat one, maybe you shouldn't even be in the tournament.
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Todd McShay
I don't disagree. Let's just set the bar higher. However you, I think, you know, figuring out what if we just set it at 12, if they're not ranked in the top 12, then the G, the G5, you know, gives up their, their right to play in the College Football Playoff and that opens up another at large bid. I mean, I think it's that simple. If you want to make it the top 15, then we could do that too. And neither, neither of these teams would have been in. But I think we just have to raise the bar for that G5 program getting. It's not the NCAA tournament, which is what, 64 teams now or whatever it is, where you've got all of these teams and it's great to have a Cinderella program in there and, and maybe a handful of them. But when you're talking about 12 teams and we'll get to 16 teams, you know, in the, in the near future. But when you're talking about 12 teams, there should be a much higher bar. That's my only complaint.
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Bobby Bones
They voted to punt. What they're going to do with the tournament for next year to make any changes, obviously. Do you think because of what happened there will be changes that go into next year's College Football Playoff?
- [46:29]
Todd McShay
I think there will will be changes preventing us from having two G5 programs.
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Bobby Bones
What about adding teams?
- [46:36]
Todd McShay
I don't honestly like a Pete Thammel or someone would be better equipped to, to discuss that right now, I'm honest. I'm starting to shift the focus to the NFL draft. I, my understanding though is it's probably going to be 2027 before we see a, a 16 team playoff or beyond. I don't think it'll be in 2026, but, but we'll see if, if something happens where they, they affect immediate change for next year.
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Bobby Bones
What do you see draft wise for Mendoza? Is he won the number one quarterback and is he the number one pick?
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Todd McShay
I think he very well could be. I really do. And I wanted to see Saturday night, man, I really did. He played. It's interesting because some of his best tapes in terms of NFL evaluation are not the ones where he's like 21 of 23, like when he was brilliant against Illinois. They're the tapes where he kind of struggled a little bit early on, but he fought through it. He showed toughness, resiliency, made NFL throws in critical situations, delivered in clutch moments. I'm referring to specifically Iowa. Oregon on the road, Iowa on the road, Penn State at Happy Valley, and then now in the, the Ohio State Conference championship game in Indianapolis. So these are all four games against really good defenses. Even Penn State has really talent, you know, high level of talent on the defensive side. Iowa does and is extremely well coached. Oregon does and I think we're about to see. I think Oregon's capable of making a little bit of a run in this college football playoff because I think their defense is vastly underrated. So those are the moments that as an evaluator you kind of hang your hat on and you say, I'm seeing it against really good defenses and I'm seeing him rebound from some early struggles. I'm also seeing him against the best defense in the country in Ohio State when the moment was huge, coming through and delivering. And I'm seeing it without his best receiver in a lot of those games, whether it's, you know, Elijah Surat has been in and out of the lineup or Omar Cooper who, who's been in and out of the lineup and including the, the Big Ten championship game where he was, he was knocked out of that game pretty early on. So I wanted to see him against Ohio State before I did this all chips in, right. And, and we saw it and I know the numbers weren't perfect and he had other games where his numbers were far superior to what those numbers were in the Big Ten championship. But as an evaluator, I saw a lot in that game. I think he is the first quarterback drafted. I think he's absolutely the Heisman Trophy winner. I think when you look at, I actually just printed out the draft board today the Giants have the first overall pick. I think they're in a prime. If the, if the draft were to be held today, we'll see how the rest of the NFL season plays out. But if the Giants had the first overall pick, you got Vegas sitting at two, you got Cleveland sitting at four with two first round picks. You've got the Rams with that Atlanta pick sitting at nine with two first round picks. You've got the jets sitting there at seven. Just a couple picks before the Rams with two first round picks this year and multiple first round picks next year. So, and the big question to me is, and I think it will be determined in the College Football Playoff, will Dante Moore of Oregon join this class? I don't think Ty Simpson will from Alabama. I think we've seen enough in his game where he needs more game experience. He's a one year starter. Moore only had five starts at ucla sat a year developed under Will Stein. But what's intriguing is I talked to an NFL scout who had talked to Dante Moore's parents, the agent, coaching staff, everyone was convinced he was coming back for next season. But that's before he's kind of rejuvenated. His season has gone on a little bit of a run. And most importantly, Will Stein has taken the head coaching job at Kentucky. So he's the wild card with all those teams I mentioned that need a quarterback in the top 10. And with multiple teams, three of them having multiple first round picks, there's, there's, as always is the case, a high demand for the quarterback. If Mendoza goes one to one of those teams, trading up for the number one spot ahead of the Raiders at two as it currently sits, it could be Cleveland from four, it could be the jets from seven, it could be the Rams from nine. They'll be trading up for Mendoza. I believe he'll be the first overall pick and likely in a trade for, for that pick. After that though, all those other teams are sitting there saying if it's not Dante Moore, if he's going back to school, if it's not Ty Simpson, he's going Back to school. There's no other first round quarterback in this class and that's going to be fascinating to watch how it plays out between now and that January 14th date for underclassmen to declare. And it could be extended if Oregon is still in Oregon or Alabama are still in the playoff.
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Bobby Bones
I'm curious about other quarterbacks because it felt like going into the season it was the year of the quarterback with an U.S. meyer who has to go and declare, but also Lenore Sellers who everybody was high on and South Carolina did not perform like I think people had hoped they would. What, what is your grade on those two guys?
- [51:33]
Todd McShay
Nussmeier's tough because I don't think we saw a healthy Nussmeyer all year long. Coming into the year of the, of the seniors and the eligible prospects, I thought he was the best of the group. Hasn't had a run game in two years at lsu. Came into the season this year. There was talk about the knee and some tendinitis there. He had the abdominal strain and never got a lot of clarity. But we will during the draft process. So you kind of have to go back to the best of Nuss Meyer when he was healthy and that guy has first round ability. I could envision as we get closer to the draft and throughout the process now that he's healthy, you know, when he starts to work out for teams, combine pro days, individual workouts. More importantly, as a coach's son with his father, now the OC at, at New Orleans, he's been a quarterbacks coach, he played quarterback in the NFL. He's been around ball his whole life. So when he gets on that board and starts to meet with teams, I think he's going to really win them over. So I'm not ruling out completely. Maybe like a Jackson Dart type late first round team trades in like the Giants did last year. But I do think Nuss Meyer currently is constructed is probably a second round grade. Lenora Sellers might be the most talented of all these guys, but he's just not ready. And there were moments this year where I saw some improvement and I thought he was trending towards being a first round pick. If I were advising Lenoris, Lenor's parents, Lenoris himself, his agent, he needs another year in school. Now is that at South Carolina? That, that's his decision. I think a lot of people will be banging down the, you know, on the doorstep of, of of the Sellers family, if you will, to try to talk him into going somewhere else. I've heard rumors about Miami and Indiana and some other programs, we'll see how that plays out. But Lenoris, of all these guys, not he's the most talented, but he's the one who needs more game experience and more development, probably more than anyone in this class.
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Bobby Bones
What did you see in Drake May 2 years ago that now when you watch him, you feel like you kind of nailed it?
- [53:41]
Todd McShay
The ability. He was a, he was a harder evaluation than he should have been because that offensive system, a lot of RPOs, a lot of quick game getting the ball out, it wasn't structured the way you see football structured on a Sunday. So. And he didn't have the supporting cast that others did. You know, you got to remember that Caleb Williams, the offensive line wasn't great, but he had weapons and more like Jaden Daniels had weapons and offensive line play and developed, you know, at LSU over his two years and went from like a third to fifth round prospect to the number two overall pick. So when you got to Drake May, you're looking to say he doesn't have the cast that those other guys has have. He doesn't have the, the offensive system that you kind of, you know, with at lsu, it was Brian Kelly and it was a system. It was Dembrock, I think was the offensive coordinator with at Caleb, it was with Lincoln Riley and he had already sent Baker, he had already sent Kyler Murray, you know, like it was trusted. So that made it slightly more complicated. But my gosh, like, I'll be honest, I knew he was going to be a damn good football player in the NFL. I didn't know that he was going to get to this level as a passer this quickly. And it's been awesome to watch because you see a guy who's always had armed talent and has made some special throws and can extend plays and has the strength and the mind and the mobility and all those things. But I thought it might be a two or three year development process, kind of like a Josh Allen, right, as a passer and he in year two has just taken off and it's been, it's been really cool to watch.
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Bobby Bones
The McShay report is great. I imagine you're working on that all the time, right?
- [55:26]
Todd McShay
Thanks, man. Yeah, yeah. Getting ready to, getting ready to release. Kind of doing A flash top 10 prospects now that Mendoza has coming off of that performance and maybe even a flash top 10 mock draft this today on the show. So, so. And then we're going to kind of follow up and maybe go a little deeper in the McShay Report. This week. So if you, if you don't have it, Google the McShay Report and Subscribe, please. We're, we're proud of what we're building there.
- [55:51]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, it's fantastic. And especially as we get closer to the draft, like, I feel like that's, like, that's probably the moneymaker for you because everybody wants to know what Todd's got to say about the draft.
- [56:00]
Todd McShay
I appreciate it. It's, it's a labor of love and, and I've, it's been awesome watching in just one year the growth of it because we do, we pour and I have a lot of support with editors and, and with, with mensch behind the scenes who's my co host on the show. We, we pour a lot into it.
- [56:16]
Bobby Bones
Well, Todd, really appreciate the time. Big fan of the show and you guys Google the McShay Report. It's fantastic. Especially as we end college and go closer to the draft. Have a great day, Todd. Thanks, man.
- [56:26]
Todd McShay
Thanks. My man. Always good talking to you.
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- [57:45]
Bobby Bones
I have the top 25 search celebrities. What do you think of 2025? And you want to do another? These are like pulling teeth. But there are 25.
- [57:55]
Kevin
Yeah, that's a lot.
- [57:56]
Bobby Bones
So we'll do three rounds and when you miss, you're out. All you gotta do is hit the list. You don't get points for higher or lower, but just hit the list.
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Sophie Cunningham
And.
- [58:03]
Eddie
And celebrities.
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Bobby Bones
Just actors, musicians, the most Googled people of 2025. And this is. It just says most Google. So I think it's all over the world. But I'm gonna say this. It's a very American celebrity list, but I think American celebrities are probably pretty big everywhere. Yeah, that doesn't help. That's all it says. The most Google person.
- [58:27]
Eddie
Did we play this on the big show?
- [58:29]
Bobby Bones
Mm.
- [58:29]
Eddie
Okay. Because I feel like.
- [58:31]
Kevin
Well, you better win then.
- [58:32]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, we did another list.
- [58:33]
Eddie
Okay. All right.
- [58:34]
Bobby Bones
We did Wikipedia. Wikipedia pages.
- [58:36]
Eddie
Okay. I didn't want to cheat because I do have, like, certain people that were on that list.
- [58:40]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, we did the Wikipedia pages because there were also events like Charlie Kirk's death that made it, like, overall deaths. It's not that these are actual celebrities. Are you guys ready?
- [58:50]
Brandon
Ready?
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Eddie
Yeah.
- [58:51]
Bobby Bones
Don't miss. Kevin, you're up.
- [58:54]
Kevin
Okay, I'm gonna go. Kanye.
- [59:01]
Bobby Bones
No. Oh, my God. I'm already out.
- [59:03]
Kevin
That was easy.
- [59:04]
Eddie
You're already out.
- [59:05]
Bobby Bones
No, you get three.
- [59:07]
Eddie
Relax.
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Bobby Bones
There's 25, so it took me a second, but Kevin is doing his draft from 2011, right.
- [59:14]
Eddie
Though specifically?
- [59:16]
Bobby Bones
I don't know.
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Kevin
He's always somewhere at some point in the year.
- [59:18]
Eddie
That's good.
- [59:19]
Bobby Bones
Thanks for checking in. All right, Brandon.
- [59:23]
Brandon
Sabrina Carpenter.
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Eddie
That's your Google search, dude.
- [59:29]
Bobby Bones
Sabrina Carpenter. I am surprised. She's not. She is not. I thought that was a great guess. Thanks, man. Eddie.
- [59:39]
Eddie
Diddy. Oh, I mean, Diddy. They wanted to know what is not.
- [59:45]
Brandon
Wow.
- [59:46]
Eddie
What is happening?
- [59:47]
Kevin
I just watched that first episode.
- [59:48]
Eddie
I've been watching.
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Kevin
Me too.
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Brandon
I watched it last night.
- [59:50]
Bobby Bones
Most Googled celebrities in 2025. Okay, first round over.
- [59:53]
Kevin
Timothy Shalam.
- [59:55]
Bobby Bones
Now.
- [59:56]
Kevin
Oh, my gosh. Wow.
- [59:57]
Bobby Bones
This happened last time too, where you guys had to readjust it. Did we get your head straight and.
- [60:01]
Eddie
No. No. Then it went to you giving us hints.
- [60:04]
Bobby Bones
Brandon.
- [60:04]
Brandon
Caitlyn.
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Eddie
I'll stay in the basketball world. LeBron James.
- [60:16]
Bobby Bones
Yes. At number 16, LeBron James. Now, you don't get to go twice. But you do. You only have one miss.
- [60:22]
Eddie
That's good, because I need time to think anyway.
- [60:23]
Bobby Bones
You only have one miss, Kevin. If you miss another one, you're out.
- [60:25]
Kevin
I know.
- [60:28]
Bobby Bones
I know. Why do you say like that?
- [60:32]
Kevin
Maybe I'm dating myself again here. But she also just came out with another show.
- [60:36]
Bobby Bones
Kim. Kim Kardashian at number 21. There you go.
- [60:41]
Brandon
There you go.
- [60:41]
Bobby Bones
You survive. Brandon, if you missed this one, you're out.
- [60:45]
Brandon
I'm probably gonna miss it. Well, I'm gonna Go with the obvious. Taylor Swift.
- [60:50]
Bobby Bones
Number two. Taylor Swift, you're still in the game. See, you just gotta get your head straight. Yeah.
- [60:57]
Eddie
Eddie, give me Travis Kelce. Come on. He's there. He should be right there next to Taylor.
- [61:08]
Bobby Bones
Eddie, you missed that.
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Todd McShay
What?
- [61:10]
Bobby Bones
Dude, so now you have two misses.
- [61:13]
Eddie
Everybody knows. Okay, all right.
- [61:16]
Bobby Bones
You're arguing with data.
- [61:17]
Eddie
I'm just saying, like, you guys, everyone knows about Travis, Kelsey, and everybody knows.
- [61:20]
Bobby Bones
Caitlin Clark, but they didn't make top 25. Right now I think everybody has two misses.
- [61:26]
Eddie
Yeah.
- [61:27]
Bobby Bones
And the leader. Oh, everybody's tied. All right, you guys only have three. Kevin. Looking for the top search celebrities.
- [61:38]
Kevin
I'm gonna go Glenn Powell.
- [61:42]
Eddie
That's your list.
- [61:43]
Bobby Bones
Mm.
- [61:44]
Eddie
Your Google search.
- [61:45]
Bobby Bones
Kevin's been eliminated.
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Eddie
Oh, I thought you had that Kevin. Honestly.
- [61:49]
Kevin
Me too.
- [61:50]
Brandon
Brandon Post Malone.
- [61:55]
Bobby Bones
Brandon's been eliminated. If Eddie misses, we'll go one more round.
- [61:58]
Eddie
I'm not missing.
- [61:59]
Bobby Bones
Go ahead, Eddie.
- [62:00]
Eddie
Kylie Jenner. It's your search stick.
- [62:05]
Bobby Bones
My joke.
- [62:08]
Eddie
She's there. Quit acting like you're looking so far down the list. Kylie Jenner. She must be one or two.
- [62:12]
Bobby Bones
Kylie Jenner. Not there. Oh, what is this list?
- [62:17]
Kevin
Whoa. Okay, I'm ready. Go ahead, Morgan Wallen.
- [62:21]
Bobby Bones
No.
- [62:22]
Kevin
Oh, God.
- [62:23]
Bobby Bones
Easy, Brandon.
- [62:26]
Brandon
Beyonce.
- [62:29]
Eddie
The French version.
- [62:30]
Bobby Bones
Number 22, Beyonce. Eddie, you need this to stay in or Brandon wins.
- [62:34]
Eddie
Okay, I got it.
- [62:36]
Bobby Bones
Ariana Grande, number four. Ariana. There you go, bro.
- [62:40]
Brandon
Yes.
- [62:41]
Bobby Bones
It's now a two man game between Brandon and Eddie. We have Taylor Swift at 2, Ariana Grande at 4, LeBron at 16, Kim Kardashian at 21, Beyonce at 22.
- [62:53]
Brandon
This is a risk, but I'm gonna go along the same lines. Cynthia Erivo, Paul.
- [62:58]
Eddie
Wicked.
- [62:59]
Brandon
He looked way down on his eyes.
- [63:01]
Kevin
Who is that?
- [63:01]
Bobby Bones
Eddie for the win. If you missed this, it can take. If you get it right, you're the winner. Bobby.
- [63:07]
Responsible Gambling Announcer
Yes.
- [63:08]
Bobby Bones
Give me Donald Trump, number one. That is our winner.
- [63:14]
Pandora Jewelry Announcer
Yes.
- [63:15]
Bobby Bones
So you guys are. Every time I say one of these people, you're gonna punch yourself in the face. Unless you're like Kevin. Who wanted to guess? Jonathan. Taylor Thomas from Home Improvement.
- [63:28]
Eddie
Suzanne Summers.
- [63:29]
Bobby Bones
Yes. Give me John R. Critter. Perry Mason. Nah, dude.
- [63:37]
Brandon
Lou Silball.
- [63:38]
Bobby Bones
Number three, Bad bunny.
- [63:40]
Brandon
Oh, there you go.
- [63:42]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Number five, Drake. Really?
- [63:46]
Brandon
Okay.
- [63:47]
Bobby Bones
Lady Gaga, Elon Musk, Olivia Rodrigo, Selena Gomez, Cristiano Ronaldo are in the top 10. Adele, Cardi B. Rihanna, Justin Bieber, Billie eilish. Round out 15. You had LeBron, Scarlett Johansson at 17.
- [64:03]
Eddie
Shakira.
- [64:04]
Bobby Bones
Shakira at 18. Ed Sheeran at 19. Nicki Minaj at 20. You had Kardashian at 21, Beyonce at 22, Kendrick at 23. Now, a lot of that Kendrick searching was probably last year's super bowl. And there. Or the controversy where people are like, I loved it. I hated it.
- [64:20]
Eddie
Yeah.
- [64:21]
Bobby Bones
Dua Lipa at 24, Travis Scott at number 25.
- [64:24]
Kevin
Why was Lady Gaga on there?
- [64:27]
Eddie
Curious people, man.
- [64:28]
Kevin
I mean, that's dated.
- [64:29]
Brandon
What's around the world, Right?
- [64:31]
Bobby Bones
But also, didn't she have move? Mike did.
- [64:32]
Eddie
What is on Wednesday?
- [64:33]
Bobby Bones
The TV show. Netflix.
- [64:34]
Eddie
She's on Wednesday.
- [64:36]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. I don't know.
- [64:37]
Brandon
She's always up Joker too.
- [64:38]
Bobby Bones
Maybe that's what you just say to get out of the segment. I don't know. She's always up to something. I don't know. There's a list of the oldest players in NFL history. Obviously this is because. Which is pretty exciting. The Colts. I mean, there's no other reason to watch them. They kind of suck now. But Philip Rivers is coming back at 44.
- [64:57]
Eddie
Is he going to play?
- [64:58]
Bobby Bones
He may start.
- [64:59]
Brandon
I love it.
- [65:00]
Bobby Bones
The last I heard was they were just going to evaluate him in practice.
- [65:03]
Eddie
Yeah, that's what I saw, too.
- [65:05]
Bobby Bones
So Warren Moon was 44 in his final season and he's about 15 people. Warren Moon was 44. Steve Deberg, 44. I don't think kicker should count.
- [65:14]
Eddie
No, they can play till they're seven.
- [65:16]
Bobby Bones
Because they, like, seven of these are kickers.
- [65:19]
Eddie
Sebastian oldest. Sebastian Janakowski, he was old.
- [65:22]
Bobby Bones
He just looked old.
- [65:23]
Eddie
Oh, he wasn't old.
- [65:24]
Bobby Bones
Morton Anderson was 47.
- [65:26]
Eddie
Oh, yeah.
- [65:27]
Bobby Bones
But George Blanda, this is 1975. He was a quarterback and a kicker. Oh, that's cool. He is the oldest ever at 48 because he was playing quarterback. I think he makes the list. So 48. I'm eliminating the kickers. The second was Tom Brady at 45.
- [65:38]
Eddie
Dang.
- [65:39]
Bobby Bones
It's crazy that it was still Brady playing without retiring, just switch teams. But still playing at 45. Who's older than Philip Rivers is now?
- [65:45]
Kevin
Right.
- [65:45]
Bobby Bones
And Rivers has been gone for five years.
- [65:47]
Kevin
He was up for the hall of Fame.
- [65:48]
Bobby Bones
Rivers this year, like Brady would have already been in the hall of Fame.
- [65:51]
Kevin
Yeah.
- [65:52]
Bobby Bones
If he had retired at the same time that Philip Rivers retired.
- [65:56]
Kevin
Yeah.
- [65:56]
Bobby Bones
I saw a thing that Philip Rivers was playing in college against Chris Winky.
- [66:02]
Kevin
Oh, my gosh.
- [66:03]
Bobby Bones
At Florida State. Yeah. They played against each other in a bowl game. It was like Florida State, North Carolina.
- [66:06]
Eddie
Chris was old.
- [66:07]
Bobby Bones
North Carolina State.
- [66:08]
Kevin
Yeah.
- [66:08]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Chris was old to begin with. He was like 27 because he played minor league baseball. And then one. The Heisman, I think. Yeah.
- [66:14]
Eddie
Wait, and Kevin, didn't you see Philip Rivers?
- [66:16]
Kevin
Yeah. Last year down in Alabama.
- [66:19]
Bobby Bones
At a gas station.
- [66:20]
Kevin
Yeah, at a gas station. Ran into him. I was like, holy crap, that's Philip Rivers.
- [66:25]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [66:26]
Kevin
I'm not bad mouthing anybody, but he did not look like he was in plane shape. That's why I'm interested.
- [66:30]
Bobby Bones
He didn't really look like he's in.
- [66:31]
Eddie
Plan shape at the podium.
- [66:32]
Bobby Bones
Oh, yeah, I know.
- [66:34]
Kevin
He even said he's like, well, I've never been light on my feet, so it's all good.
- [66:36]
Eddie
I think they asked him too, like, what?
- [66:37]
Todd McShay
Wait, are you.
- [66:38]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, they did ask him that. You never ask a woman or wait till the. Rivers. It's okay.
- [66:41]
Eddie
Yeah.
- [66:42]
Bobby Bones
Next up, third on the list, eliminating kickers, is Bobby Marshall. Defensive end, 45 years old, but his final season was 1925.
- [66:50]
Eddie
Defensive end, huh?
- [66:51]
Bobby Bones
1925.
- [66:52]
Eddie
Yeah, I get it. But it's still old to play football.
- [66:54]
Bobby Bones
1925, leather helmets. Yeah.
- [66:57]
Kevin
See, the first year of NFL football.
- [66:59]
Bobby Bones
Benny Testaverde was 44 when he retired.
- [67:02]
Kevin
Dang.
- [67:03]
Bobby Bones
Steve Deberg, Warren Moon, also 44. I'm rooting for them. They're a 14 point underdog. Yeah, but that would be so funny. If he comes in and actually plays. I will. I guess my metric is, is he better than Aaron Rodgers? His second year with the Jets. That's a good comparison because year one and also Rogers is five years, maybe four years younger, but. So he's old, but he's coming back from injury. So that if he's better than Rogers then. Or Flacco now. Yeah, he's older than Flacco.
- [67:40]
Kevin
Yeah, yeah. Because the Rogers injury. Add a year or two at that age.
- [67:44]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [67:46]
Eddie
Yeah.
- [67:46]
Bobby Bones
Cool.
- [67:47]
Kevin
Hope he does well.
- [67:48]
Eddie
So Notre Dame guy, they're not going to give him a chance. The Notre Dame, Riley Leonard, it's just kind of. That was his one time.
- [67:55]
Bobby Bones
Well, he's got a hurt leg, so he's. Oh, he's hurt.
- [67:57]
Eddie
And Anthony Richardson's hurt.
- [67:59]
Bobby Bones
Now, he may play and he's been practicing, but he was questionable earlier in the week. And I watched some interviews at like his locker and he's like, I don't know if I'm going to start or not. But Riley Leonard also has a relationship with Philip Rivers. They're from the same town and Philip Rivers has like mentored Riley Leonard.
- [68:11]
Eddie
Oh, that's cool.
- [68:12]
Bobby Bones
And also Philip Rivers has played for the Colts coach before. And they asked him, they said, hey, what's it like having someone that's older than you. You're coaching. He goes, I've coached him before. Like he was older than me when we played together before. So it ain't really that. That weird. But yeah, that's fun. Anything else for you guys? Anything on your mind that we didn't get to.
- [68:31]
Kevin
Yeah. Do you guys see in and outs here?
- [68:33]
Bobby Bones
I thought about going yesterday.
- [68:35]
Eddie
Oh, Kevin, did you go?
- [68:36]
Kevin
I went to see and I was like, nope, no, thank you. I don't feel like waiting in this line for God knows how long.
- [68:42]
Eddie
What were you going to do over there? You're going to.
- [68:43]
Bobby Bones
My wife's pregnant. And so she's like, man, I'd like some in and out. And I said, oh, yeah. They open it, we look both of them up. One of them is 25 minutes. Is one Antioch.
- [68:52]
Brandon
That's.
- [68:53]
Bobby Bones
That's. Yeah. And then there's one in another town, Murfreesboro.
- [68:58]
Kevin
I don't know that one.
- [68:58]
Bobby Bones
Murphysboro opens.
- [68:59]
Kevin
Mount Juliet.
- [69:00]
Bobby Bones
Mount Juliet.
- [69:01]
Kevin
Juliet. Yeah.
- [69:02]
Bobby Bones
And so that was like 45 minutes away. And so I was like, I will go like, whatever you want. I'll go. I'll go sit in line. And she finds a tick tock of the line, the rap, and it's rap, rap, rap, rap, rap, rap, rap, rap. I'll go sit in it. And she's like, ah, it's okay. By the time you get back, it'll be four hours. I was like, it will be, but I'll go sit in it. So I thought about. I thought that we were going to. And I like in n out. I actually really like in and out. I just feel like nothing can live up to the hype of in and out. Right. But it is really good.
- [69:27]
Kevin
Fair. Yeah, yeah, it's very good. Yeah. I went by and. But they had it like, I mean, dialed in as far as traffic control and these lines and how long it was for people. I saw somebody that I know went to one last night and she said she only waited 30 minutes. I was like, that doesn't seem right.
- [69:43]
Bobby Bones
It looks a lot more daunting than I think it probably is because sometimes you'll see the chick fil a and you're like, man, it's out on the.
- [69:48]
Eddie
Road and you're in and out, but.
- [69:49]
Bobby Bones
If you actually get into it, it's like 12 minutes.
- [69:51]
Kevin
Yeah, they have it dialed and they are like chick fil.
- [69:54]
Bobby Bones
They.
- [69:54]
Kevin
They do move fast. In and out.
- [69:56]
Bobby Bones
I see. I saw they stopped doing order 67 though. I saw that they did. They go 66 to 68. Because everybody just waits for them to go. 6, 7. And they just go right.
- [70:04]
Brandon
Yeah. Can't do it.
- [70:06]
Eddie
That's funny, though.
- [70:07]
Bobby Bones
Eddie, anything on your mind before we go?
- [70:08]
Eddie
Oh, I was going to talk about when Whataburger opened here. I remember the same thing. They had people wrapped around the building. The. The line of cars is ridiculous. But I went anyway. And I walk in the restaurant, and there was no one inside ordering. I got my food in five minutes.
- [70:23]
Bobby Bones
How'd you park, though?
- [70:24]
Eddie
I just parked. It was by food spots, just by a Lowe's. So I parked at Lowe's and walked over.
- [70:29]
Kevin
They had people parking across the street from In N Out yesterday to walk in, and there was like 100 people outside. It was just. It was fun to see, but I was like, yeah, I'm good. I'll come back next week.
- [70:38]
Bobby Bones
Brandon, anything on your mind, man?
- [70:39]
Brandon
I just hope you guys have a merry Christmas.
- [70:40]
Bobby Bones
Oh, thank you, Brandon.
- [70:41]
Kevin
You know.
- [70:42]
Eddie
You know what Brandon said earlier today? He saw me and Kevin, and he was just like, man, you guys are in a. Or was me and Mike. He's like, you guys are in a good mood today.
- [70:48]
Bobby Bones
Oh, good. I thought it was Rachel Slur.
- [70:50]
Eddie
No, no, no, it wasn't.
- [70:51]
Bobby Bones
Oh, my God.
- [70:51]
Kevin
Like, all the ice on us.
- [70:53]
Bobby Bones
No. Oh, no, no. Did you hear what he said?
- [70:57]
Eddie
Y did.
- [70:58]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [70:59]
Eddie
He didn't do that.
- [70:59]
Bobby Bones
Did you?
- [71:01]
Brandon
Not that, you know, no comment.
- [71:03]
Eddie
But then Brandon's just like, oh, no. You guys are a good man. Like, are we not ever in a good movie? He's like, not really.
- [71:07]
Kevin
No, not really.
- [71:09]
Bobby Bones
A lot of times I think you come in and we're tired. Oh, yeah. From the day.
- [71:12]
Brandon
And that's why I was like, man, you guys.
- [71:14]
Bobby Bones
Or it's not even tired. It's like we're so focused.
- [71:17]
Brandon
Oh, yeah.
- [71:17]
Bobby Bones
Ending that the focus is probably keeping them from being mean. Unlike me. I'm always in a great mood. I'm like, always. I have a plenty of time to, like, take time with people.
- [71:24]
Eddie
We can't shut you up. Yeah. Yeah. You're talking so much joyful.
- [71:27]
Kevin
Just carry the mic everywhere you go.
- [71:31]
Bobby Bones
You guys laughed too long at that one. To be honest. You laughed a little too long at.
- [71:35]
Eddie
That one because I just pictured you talking to everyone. Hey, guys, I got a joke. I got a joke.
- [71:40]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. For those that don't know, this is the most efficiently run. I don't want to say radio show because we're doing, like, eight things at once.
- [71:49]
Eddie
Yes.
- [71:50]
Bobby Bones
We're doing a radio show live. We're doing podcasts. I'M doing a countdown. I'm doing a night show. We're moving guests in and out to record. We're doing this show. And so if it's not, we're gonna be here 17 hours.
- [72:00]
Eddie
It really is no time wasted.
- [72:02]
Bobby Bones
When Eddie had to go to the bathroom a minute ago, I didn't. I never tell people they can't go to the bathroom, for the record, but I will purposefully have a couple breaks. I'm like, guys, you should go to the bathroom. Because if not, I'll just keep going. And I purposefully don't drink a lot of water in the morning so I never have to get out of my chair to pee. So Eddie goes, hey, man, I'm gonna go pee, but I'll be fast. And I won't even wash my hands. They take off right now.
- [72:24]
Eddie
I was joking. But yeah. So you got the idea.
- [72:27]
Kevin
So you did wash them.
- [72:28]
Bobby Bones
I didn't watch.
- [72:28]
Kevin
Okay, good.
- [72:29]
Bobby Bones
All right, thank you, guys. We got a game tonight. A big game tonight.
- [72:34]
Pandora Jewelry Announcer
Right?
- [72:35]
Bobby Bones
We in our money league need the bucks to win bad. We are down a lot of money.
- [72:39]
Eddie
We got the Falcons.
- [72:40]
Bobby Bones
Yeah. Yeah.
- [72:40]
Kevin
It's not as much as I thought.
- [72:42]
Bobby Bones
Isn't it like 1600 15.
- [72:44]
Kevin
Okay, but I'm just saying, like, last week it was a thousand. And the weekend that we had last weekend, I felt like it was gonna be in the twos.
- [72:53]
Bobby Bones
Here's what I'm gonna say, though. It's not ugly. It's ugly now, and it could get uglier. But if you don't get teams to the playoffs, it gets really ugly. I know.
- [73:01]
Eddie
You just sit there and watch.
- [73:02]
Bobby Bones
You have to win. You can just. You can just figure out how much money is going to be by looking at the bracket because there's no way to stop the money you're losing.
- [73:08]
Eddie
And it goes all the way to the Super Bowl.
- [73:10]
Bobby Bones
All the way to the Super Bowl.
- [73:11]
Kevin
Includes the Super Bowl. I will.
- [73:13]
Brandon
I'm going to put the GoFundMe link.
- [73:15]
Bobby Bones
Thank you.
- [73:15]
Brandon
In the clips.
- [73:16]
Eddie
But this is why we want the Cowboys to win the super bowl, because no one picked the Cowboys to win.
- [73:21]
Bobby Bones
I was talking about the Chiefs earlier, and it's like, I care more about the Cowboys. And I'm like, I hear you. But he was like, I don't care about the Chiefs.
- [73:27]
Kevin
What about the Patriots? We have money invested.
- [73:29]
Eddie
It's just money, boys. Comes and goes.
- [73:31]
Bobby Bones
Okay, I'm glad you said that.
- [73:34]
Kevin
Save that clip.
- [73:35]
Bobby Bones
I'm glad you said that. We are down 1500 there. Chandler. Scott Chandler played for The Bills in the league, he's down 4, 500 bucks.
- [73:44]
Kevin
Wow. And they were the big winners last year.
- [73:46]
Bobby Bones
Yeah, they won. I. I think I was second. I made a good living last. Last time, but it's just. It's a crapshoot. You.
- [73:54]
Eddie
So last year you made a good living.
- [73:55]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [73:55]
Eddie
This year when you included us, if.
- [73:57]
Bobby Bones
We had the Packers. Yeah.
- [73:59]
Kevin
We'd be in good shape.
- [74:00]
Bobby Bones
In good shape.
- [74:01]
Eddie
We don't know that yet.
- [74:03]
Kevin
Well, we do because they've won.
- [74:04]
Bobby Bones
Stell's team is up 3, 900. Matt sales team, they're up 3900. There's another. Yeah.
- [74:13]
Eddie
I mean, we're not going to be playing the guys. If we would have picked that because we can do it many different ways. So we're not playing that game. So.
- [74:21]
Bobby Bones
Sure. We can also say if I didn't pick the Patriots.
- [74:23]
Eddie
Yeah. Or the Chiefs.
- [74:24]
Bobby Bones
Right.
- [74:24]
Eddie
It'd be different.
- [74:25]
Bobby Bones
Yeah.
- [74:26]
Eddie
But we're not playing that game. It's okay. It is what it is.
- [74:28]
Bobby Bones
But the difference is I said, hey, dude, we should go with the Packers. And you're like, no, we should go with the Bengals. Like, you, You. You argued and you won, and you would have got the credit. And I said this at the beginning. If the Bengals end up making us a bunch of money, I will go say, thank God you saved us, because I would have made the terrible decision.
- [74:42]
Eddie
If you picking the packers, that's not on the horizon.
- [74:44]
Bobby Bones
That's not on the horizon. So that's what's up. So root for us. We need some wins from the Bucks, the Patriots, the Bengals. The Bengals, the Chiefs.
- [74:52]
Eddie
That's it.
- [74:53]
Bobby Bones
And, well, yeah, those four teams, please, all win. Eddie, blow the whistle. We will see you guys next week. Bye, everybody. Theme song written by Bobby Bones. That's me. And performed by Brandon. Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on Socials at BrandonRay Music. You can follow the show on Instagram @BobbyBoneSports. Thanks to our crew, co host producer Eddie, segment producer Ickoffkevin, and executive producer Ike Diestrove. But most importantly, thank you for listening. I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time here on 25 Whistles. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.