25W: Bobby's One Listener Request Re: Eddie's Interview with 2x NASCAR Cup Series Champion Kyle Larson + The Issue with Billionaires in CFB with On3's Andy Staples + What Real-World Job Resembles a CFB Head Coach?

Summary

The Bobby Bones Show – Episode: 25W (Nov 6, 2025)

Main Theme:

A football-centric episode blending NCAA playoff analysis, the power struggles of college football (CFB) boosters, real-world coaching pressures, and a deep-dive interview with NASCAR Cup Series champion Kyle Larson.

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Episode Overview

This episode mixes current sports stories and gamesmanship, with a unique look into college football's modern landscape thanks to analyst Andy Staples, and features an in-depth interview with NASCAR’s Kyle Larson. The conversations revolve around CFB playoff predictions, the chaotic world of coach hiring/firing (and billionaire boosters' roles), and wrap with light personal anecdotes about parenting and youth sports.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NASCAR Recap & Kyle Larson Interview Setup

• Host Situation: Eddie interviews Kyle Larson in Bobby’s absence; Bobby teases wanting listener feedback on Eddie’s interviewing skills. (04:24–05:11)
• Kyle Larson's Win: Larson clinched his second NASCAR Cup Series title, utilizing a bold two-tire strategy during a wild race finish. Eddie and Mike provide context: “He took two tires instead of four. Denny Hamlin took four... that's why they think he won.” (62:32–62:49)

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2. Quick Hits: Dallas Cowboys Player Passing and UFC Betting Scandal

• Cowboys News: Discussion of second-year defensive end Marshawn Nealon’s sudden death; causes are unknown. The somber tone highlights the unpredictability and human side of pro sports. (05:20–05:53)
  • “Cowboys second-year defensive end Marshawn Nealon dies at 24 years old.” – Brandon (05:27)
• UFC Betting Investigation: Unusual betting patterns before a key UFC fight have led to FBI involvement, with hosts sharing how quick odds shifts can indicate rigging. (06:53–08:41)
  • “Suspicious betting activity before a fight last weekend has led to an unlikely partnership. UFC and the FBI are now actively working together.” – Brandon (07:08)
  • “I bet on UFC every weekend. What is happening?” – Mike (07:04)

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3. NCAA Football: Parlay Picks & Playoff Talk

• Parlay Segment: Rapid-fire betting picks—hosts debate Indiana -14.5 over Penn State, Alabama -10 over LSU, and Oregon -6.5 over Iowa.
  • “Indiana minus 14 and a half. Alabama minus 10. Oregon minus six and a half. Boom, your team hitting pay dirt pays out.” – Brandon (12:16)
• Playoff Expansion Joy: Hosts celebrate the expanded 12-team playoff, discuss fraud candidates and who might drop out, emphasizing the evolving landscape. (16:50–18:48)
  • “Who do you think...probably will not be there whenever it's time to actually have the tournament?” – Brandon
  • “Texas is number 11...I think they’re going to lose at Georgia or Texas A&M, maybe both.” – Andy Staples (17:47)

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4. CFB Deep Dive with Andy Staples (“On3 Sports”)

Playoff Projections & Conference Puzzles

• ACC Oddities: The weirdness around conference schedules, possible ACC playoff teams, and tiebreakers.
  • “Virginia lives so dangerously all season...They also could lose any game on that schedule.” – Andy (19:02)
  • “Louisville...probably could wind up being the best team in the ACC and wind up in the playoff.” (19:38)
• Non-Power Conferences: Memphis, Tulane, James Madison, USF, North Texas, Navy discussed as potential American champ fill-ins. (21:21–22:22)

Money, Boosters, and the Billionaire Problem

• Virginia’s Roster Spend: The impact of using buyout funds to bolster a roster instead of firing a close-but-not-quite coach.
  • “We can fire Tony Elliott now and pay him buyout money, or use that money to better the roster...that works.” – Andy (22:50)
• Arkansas’ Unique Corporate Power: The influence of big donors (Tyson Foods, Walmart) and the sticky dynamics of billionaire booster control.
  • “It's hard to pull in billionaire money if the billionaire is not pulling all the strings.” – Brandon (28:29)
  • “That's the hardest problem...when you have two billionaires and they want opposite things, one of them is not going to get what they want, and then they freak out.” – Andy (29:07)

Coaching Carousel, Contracts & Retreads

• Search Firm Games: The outsized role of intermediaries in coaching searches, with search firms providing plausible deniability.
  • “You hire them so you have cover...Did your search firm contact them? Yes, they have, but you don't have to say that.” – Andy (25:49)
• Florida, LSU, and Lane Kiffin: Discussion about whether Lane Kiffin would realistically leave Ole Miss, and how coach buyouts are essentially just permission slips.
  • “It’s not like 15 years ago where...Florida or LSU wanted the Ole Miss coach, they just snap their fingers and get him.” – Andy (31:28)
  • “Instead of a contract contracting their services for a certain amount of time, it is a contract that says how much another school has to pay to hire your coach as a buyout.” – Brandon (53:12)

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5. What Real-World Job Is Like Being a CFB Head Coach?

• Coaching Firings vs. Real Life: Playful banter about how getting fired as a CFB coach can resemble being a CEO or politician; the media just makes every firing seem massive. (55:04–57:56)
  • “The turnover rate is kind of comparable to CEOs or politicians.” – Mike (57:56)

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6. Parenting, Youth Sports, and Behind the Scenes

• Youth Sports Tryout Anxiety: Eddie shares his 12-year-old facing a two-week "closed-door" basketball tryout—taped windows, strict no parents. They discuss how modern youth sports can feel high-stakes for families. (46:13–47:47)
  • “Today's the last tryout day, and then they find out next week if they made the team or not…” – Mike (47:18)
  • “The no parents [rule], I understand. I do. Two weeks does seem like a long time.” – Brandon (48:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the CFB Billionaire Problem:

  • “It's hard to pull in billionaire money if the billionaire is not pulling all the strings. And I'm thinking, that's what's happening right now…” – Brandon (28:29)
  • “When you have two billionaires and they want opposite things, one of them is not going to get what they want, and then they freak out.” – Andy Staples (29:07)

• Coaching as a Carousel:

  • “You hire [search firms] so you have cover...Did your search firm contact them? Yes, they have, but you don't have to say that.” – Andy Staples (25:49)
  • “Instead of a contract contracting their services for a certain amount of time, it is a contract that says how much another school has to pay to hire your coach as a buyout.” – Brandon (53:12)
  • “Is there another job where you get fired as much as coaches do?” – Mike (55:04)

• Parlay Recap:

  • “Indiana minus 14 and a half. Alabama minus 10. Oregon minus 6 and a half.” – Brandon (12:16)

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Key Segment Timestamps

• 00:05–04:13: Skippable ad reads and show banter
• 04:24–05:20: Bobby explains the setup for Eddie’s interview with Kyle Larson
• 05:20–05:53: News: Death of Cowboys’ Marshawn Nealon
• 06:53–08:41: UFC betting scandal and FBI involvement
• 09:33–12:41: Hosts’ College Football betting picks (Indiana, Alabama, Oregon)
• 16:50–39:40: Andy Staples joins for deep CFB playoff and coaching analysis
• 44:58–46:12: Quick men’s basketball betting odds, Arkansas’ potential
• 46:13–47:47: Parenting and youth basketball tryouts
• 49:14–53:39: Coach firings, retreads, and contract/buyout discussion
• 62:16–76:54: Eddie’s full interview with 2x NASCAR Cup Series champ Kyle Larson

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Kyle Larson Interview Highlights

(62:56–76:54)

• Race Recap: Larson details the crucial pit stop decision—code words, team coordination, and why two tires made the difference over rival Denny Hamlin's four.
  • “We were all kind of on the same page there...I think that's our only shot to win here.” – Kyle Larson (63:25)
  • “Every team kind of has code words because, yeah, you're trying to decoy a little bit.” – Kyle Larson (64:17)
• Big Team, Big Win: Larson emphasizes it’s a team victory, with around 500 people at Hendrick Motorsports involved. (65:38)
• Car Problems: Eddie admits he bets on NASCAR; Kyle explains “loose” vs. “tight” car handling and how even a bad-feeling car can win with the right timing and luck. (66:45–67:26)
• Winning Celebrations: Five hours of photos and interviews, then celebratory night out in Scottsdale. Kyle credits his team for perseverance. (68:13–68:59)
• Family & Humility: Talks about keeping his kids grounded—“I want them to think I’m not above anybody because I am just a normal person and I’m their dad.” (69:35)
• Replying to 400+ Texts: “I like my phone pretty clean, so...I respond to them too, but yeah, I just don't like the little red bubble.” (71:33–71:56)
• OCD Routines: Admits to putting on socks, then shoes (never sock-shoe, sock-shoe)—“That sounds very psychotic.” (73:03)
• Trophy Placement: Has to reorganize his trophy case after another big win—“Probably gonna have to pull a trophy out of there.” (76:13)

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Tone and Style

• Conversational, Playful: Regular ribbing between hosts, especially around Eddie’s interviewing; audience-inviting (“DM us your feedback!”).
• Informed but Casual: Deep dives into CFB by Andy Staples, with clear explanations on tricky topics like ACC tiebreakers and NIL resource allocation.
• Human Touch: Both tragedy and celebration, from a young player’s untimely passing to family discussions and the glory (and mess) of winning big in sports.

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For New Listeners

If you missed the episode, you’ll come away understanding:

• How chaotic and political the new CFB landscape is, especially behind closed doors with donor intrigue
• Why successful coaching is about much more than X’s and O’s
• How even in a glamorous sport, moments of humanity (parenting, team dynamics, OCD routines) shine through
• The inside story behind Kyle Larson’s championship win and what it really takes

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Listener Challenge:
Bobby wants your unvarnished opinion on Eddie’s interview! DM on Instagram or comment on Spotify.

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Full Interview with Kyle Larson starts: 62:56
Andy Staples interview starts: 16:50
Notable CFB booster/billionaire discussion: 28:29
Parlay picks segment: 12:16

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End of summary.

Transcript

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[Mike]

I turned off news altogether.

[Andy Staples]

I hate to say it, but I.

[Brandon Marcelo]

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[Andy Staples]

It's the rage bait.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Kyle Larson]

We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little.

[Mike]

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[Mike]

This is a podcast called 25 whistles.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Talking football. And they all wear a whistle yet.

[Mike]

Stupid. But why did you expect. It's a podcast called 25 Whistles.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Hey, welcome to the show. Blow that whistle, somebody. Thank you very much. We do have one of my favorite commentators, Andy Staples, coming up, who's great. College football. And then Eddie interviewed Kyle Larson, who's a two time NASCAR cup winner right after his win. And I don't know, I had to leave for I think a doctor's appointment. So you did it.

[Mike]

How'd it go? It was good, man. I mean, I didn't really watch the race, but I made it seem like I did. There you go.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Which is kind of the history of all my interviews.

[Mike]

But I did get a recap of the race. I saw like clips of the end, which was a crazy ending. And do you think it's weird that it was you? I don't know. I don't know if anyone told him that it wasn't going to be you.

[Brandon Marcelo]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Did he ever know that it wasn't. He never thought you were me.

[Mike]

Never addressed. Hey, he never addressed it. And you can tell he. It was a long night before because he was tired.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Mike]

But it was a good interview, man. It was cool talking to him.

[Brandon Marcelo]

A couple things. One, I do want to start with the guy that Dallas Cowboy player died. Do you know Marshawn Neyland?

[Mike]

No.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Okay, so Cowboy second year defensive end Marshawn Nealon dies at 24 years old.

[Mike]

Wait, he's currently on the team, right, Mike?

[Brandon Marcelo]

I believe he was. I didn't know him, but I believe he was on the team. I believe he's the one who returned the blocked punt last game.

[Mike]

What?

[Brandon Marcelo]

The team did not disclose any details of how he died. He was a second round pick in 2024 out of Western Michigan.

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[Brandon Marcelo]

He scored a touchdown on Monday night versus the Cardinals when the Cowboys blocked a punt.

[Mike]

Huge play.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah. And they're not saying what. They're not saying why or how. I guess we'll figure it out. Oh, I gotta put headphones on because I can't hear Kevin.

[Mike]

I know. I kind of have my headphones close to me.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I have this stupid hat on. It's hard. I can't wear headphones and stupid hat. We need big headphones. Yeah, that's what I need. Monster sized headphones.

[Mike]

You can put them behind you.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I think we just have to lose the stupid hats.

[Mike]

No, I know.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Sorry, guys. I know. Sorry.

[Mike]

Okay, fine.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Hats off this week. Okay. That's so big.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's the joke. Brandon.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Brandon's like, why are you taking it off? Don't you get it? It's funny because it's so big.

[Mike]

What are they called? What are those hats called? They have a name down, right?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah. I don't know what they're called.

[Mike]

Dude. When they first came out, but we made these.

[Brandon Marcelo]

We bought a generic shell. And then I had Abby paint them.

[Mike]

Oh, that's the one she painted.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Because they didn't make Arkansas ones. She painted two for me.

[Mike]

Dude, when those first came out, like, that was the funniest thing ever to see people wearing that.

[Brandon Marcelo]

What do you think about the UFC and the suspicious betting? Do you know about it?

[Mike]

No, I don't. I saw a headline, but I thought. I just thought he was. Dana White was talking about the other stuff. What's going on there?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Great.

[Mike]

I bet on UFC every weekend. What is happening?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Suspicious betting activity before a fight last weekend has led to an unlikely partnership. UFC and the FBI are now actively working together. It was me in an investigation of wagering prior to a fight between Isaac Dolgarian and Steve Garcia. Yadier Delval? I don't know. Oh, no, no. The word and is close to Dolgarian. So it looks like Dolgarian. Isaac Dolgarian and Yaddier Del Val. Those up. Dana White says UFC was alerted to the potential problem by Sports wagering watchdog Integrity Compliance360, specifically concerning abnormal betting interest. What I had heard was right before the fight, that odds shifted tremendously. And the guy who was the favorite ended up losing. He was minus 250, but he lost in the first round by submission. And there was a massive shift right before, even with the odds. Did you bet that one?

[Mike]

I'm looking. I got Steve Garcia, which. That was a huge win for me. What is it? Arnie Delgia?

[Andy Staples]

Delgari?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Isaac Dulgarian?

[Mike]

No. Okay. I might have been on Arnie. Isaac Delgarian. Yeah. Look. Look at me. I lost on that one.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Oh, look at that.

[Andy Staples]

You need to call the money back.

[Brandon Marcelo]

You need to call the FBI immediately after this.

[Mike]

He was favored minus 162, which isn't a heavy favorite.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I think it was shifting. Did you bet that right before the match?

[Mike]

I don't. That might have been a live bet because 162 is odd. It's usually not like a 2. Dang. That's crazy. Dude, they got me.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Who do we want to be in the triangle this week?

[Mike]

What do you mean? Oh, well, who got it? Who lost it last week?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Well, Kevin lost last week, but he.

[Mike]

Has a good record.

[Brandon Marcelo]

He has a good record. Get.

[Mike]

Give it to. Give it to Brandon.

[Brandon Marcelo]

So anyone's.

[Andy Staples]

No part of me.

[Mike]

The feeling that I have when I lose my leg of it, like, it's. Sometimes I just kind of want to, like, end it. Like, it's. It's that feeling.

[Brandon Marcelo]

You don't want to kill yourself because. No, it's not. You don't want to kill yourself because you missed one of the triangle.

[Mike]

It is because I let you guys down. And not only just you guys, all our listeners who, like, bet on that, too. Like, I. Nobody wants to lose people money, and I did that.

[Brandon Marcelo]

You don't want to kill yourself, though, because you. You're one of the angles.

[Mike]

I'm not saying. Not saying I want to kill myself. It's the. What you said, the feeling of like that.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Okay. Do you guys want to do it? Brandon, you guys feel good? Brandon, you can go first.

[Mike]

What is your.

[Brandon Marcelo]

What is your bet?

[Andy Staples]

All right, I'm going to do Indiana.

[Brandon Marcelo]

-14 and a half over Penn State. Indiana is like the cop out. They are going to pen Indiana. Mine's 14 and a half.

[Mike]

That's solid.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Okay. The reason I didn't pick that is because I've been picking it every week, and I feel like Penn State's actually a better team. Than people give them credit for. They don't have the starting quarterback, obviously, but they still have a bunch of dudes. And Indiana's been killing folks that I think eventually that has to end. I think they'll still win.

[Mike]

Yeah, you're right.

[Brandon Marcelo]

But that's why I didn't pick them.

[Mike]

But 15 isn't killing folks, you know?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, fair enough. I just. I'm in a zag week. Everybody's zigging. I'm zagging. Kevin.

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I'm gonna go with Alabama. Oh, I do have my Vandy shirt on. Yeah, I. I thought about Vandy for a second there, but I'm gonna go with Alabama minus 10 is the last time I saw it. Yeah. It's LSU at number four. Alabama. Alabama minus 10. All right, so far, two favorites. Now there is a new narrative that possibly Oregon is not good and not near as good as we thought because their biggest win is, well, Penn State.

[Mike]

They killed Rutgers, didn't they?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah. But again, I think we could beat Rutgers.

[Mike]

Us three. Yes. Us four with Mike.

[Brandon Marcelo]

And so the narrative is that maybe Oregon is not as good as we thought they were. But I think that Penn State win was actually bigger than people are giving it credit for. It was a night game. It was a wide out. Aller was still the quarterback. They. James Franklin was still the coach. There was some unity. There was some consistency. And Iowa is starting to be looked at as a team that has a chance to make it. Like, I don't even think Iowa was in the AP poll, but they were ranked 20th whenever the CFP come out. Came out. So I'm going Oregon minus six and a half. Because most people are thinking that Oregon maybe isn't as good as.

[Mike]

Wow.

[Brandon Marcelo]

So I'm. I'm fighting the zig. I'm going to zag. I'm going Oregon is that good. I like it. I didn't realize Iowa was 6 and 2.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

They lost by one point, I think, to Indiana. If you look back, you can correct me on this because I do have.

[Mike]

In front of me. Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

On like a last second or a last minute play or long pass. I do remember that.

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

And I think that that win is starting to look better and better the more the season goes by because we're seeing Indiana as a real team.

[Andy Staples]

Mm.

[Brandon Marcelo]

They're a real boy now. Oh, they did. What was the score? 20 to 15. Okay. Yeah, I knew it's true. Iowa fashion. So, okay, that's gonna be our parlay, everybody good on that?

[Mike]

Yep.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It's gonna be Indiana minus 14 and a half. It's going to be Alabama minus 10. And then over on my side, I'm going to have Oregon minus six and a half. At number 20, Iowa. Boom. Your team hitting pay dirt pays out. That's our Parlay presented by DraftKings. They'll put it up on the app, right, Mike?

[Mike]

Yep. Okay.

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[Mike]

I turned off news altogether.

[Andy Staples]

I hate to say it, but I.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Don'T trust much of anything.

[Andy Staples]

It's the rage bait.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Kyle Larson]

We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.

[Mike]

NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.

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Talk with college football writer for On3Sports and Yahoo. Sports, Andy Staples. I'm a big Andy Staples fan and he's worked for the Athletic and Sports Illustrated and he's great at talking about nil and portal and coaching changes. Also, if you're looking for a great sports show, he hosts a daily show called Andy and Ari on three, which you can listen to wherever you get your podcasts. You can also follow him on socials. Andy underscore Staples. Here he is, Andy Staples. All right, we have Andy Staples on with us. One of my favorites when it comes to college football. It's kind of a college football holiday because as soon as they put out that first, here we go. These are the 12 it used to be, you know, they put out. All right, these are, this is the rankings. We have four teams, but now it's 12. I love the playoffs. Who do you think is the big. I don't want to use the word fraud. So let me, let me reverse. Who do you think on the list now in those 12 probably will not be there whenever it's time to actually have the tournament?

[Andy Staples]

Well, Texas is number 11. I think they've got to play at Georgia and they got to play Texas A and M. I think they're going to lose one of those. At least they might lose both of them. So I think that's, that's probably the easiest one to just say they're probably not going to be there. Now the way it's, the way it's actually ranked like now Texas wouldn't be in any way because you've got the, the highest ranked ACC team is below 12 as well. So you've got to, you've got to pull them up and then you've got to pull another potential conference champ up. So I, I wonder if one of Texas Tech or BYU drops out. They play this weekend. I suspect they're going to wind up playing twice. I think they're going to play this weekend and then probably play again in the Big 12 title game. The way they're, the way they're ranked right now suggests to me that if it goes a certain way like say Texas Tech wins this one, BYU wins out, they still might both make it, but that's one of those two. And especially if Texas Tech loses to BYU this weekend, I think you'll see them drop out.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I feel like the ACC is probably going to get one slot unless there's again some, some magic that happens. But in that Virginia Zen. But I feel like that should just say placeholder for acc. Do you feel like that's accurate?

[Andy Staples]

Oh yeah, yeah. Because Virginia lives so dangerously all season and you look at the rest of their schedule, they, it's not exceedingly tough, but they also could lose any game on that, that schedule. They play Wake Forest at Duke and then they play Virginia Tech. The at Duke is the really key win there because Duke is also in the mix for the ACC title. Duke only has one conference loss. They just happen to have two non conference losses. So the glut at the top of the ACC is really, really weird because Virginia's undefeated in conference play though they've lost to a conference team. Like they played NC State and lost but that was scheduled as a non conference game. So very strange year in the acc. And you know, Louisville is the one I think probably could wind up being the best team in the ACC and could wind up being in the playoff. I think that would make a lot of sense. But the one I would watch out for in the ACC is Pittsburgh. They just, they change quarterbacks after the Louisville loss. They only have one loss in conference play. And Mason Heintschel, their freshman quarterback, they're five. And oh, since they've, since they put him in the starting lineup. So they are a tricky one. And they play Miami and Georgia Tech down the stretch. So they could have a lot to say about this.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Is there a way? Because I haven't run through the scenarios that Georgia Tech wins out but doesn't end up in the AC Championship game, therefore they could get in with just a single loss. I feel like that would be a possibility of a team not winning the championship. The conference championship is still getting in.

[Andy Staples]

Yes, that is definitely possible because it would depend on tiebreakers. You probably need Virginia to win out. So Virginia would take one ACC championship game slot and then because of tiebreakers, some other team with one loss in the ACC goes in over Georgia Tech. But as you said, in your scenario, Georgia Tech wins out, which means they beat Georgia at the end of the season. And so they'd have a win over probably a playoff team. We're assuming Georgia will come into that game with only one loss. Still, maybe they won't. They do play Texas next week. But 11 and one with a win at Georgia at the end of the season probably is going to get you in. So I. Bobby, I think that is a. Is a very plausible scenario. And the Georgia fans are probably not plausible. Guys, they took you to eight overtimes in Athens last year. It's not, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility.

[Brandon Marcelo]

They have Memphis in again. I'm going to put that as a placeholder for whomever wins the. And it doesn't have to be the American, obviously, like a James Madison or somebody else could, could squeeze in as well. But it's like Memphis. It's usf, right? Like one of those three. Who else am I missing that could possibly get that spot?

[Andy Staples]

I think it's the American champ because I think the American is, is really deep at the top this year. And so JMU has the one loss to Louisville. They're the best team in the Sun Belt. But I think if the committee is comparing the path that they had to take, it's a lot harder to get through the American this year than it is to get through the Sun Belt. So I do think as an American champ, you've got Memphis In Tulane playing this week, which feels like an elimination game, both have one loss in conference, but you also have usf, which only has one conference loss. North Texas only has one conference loss, and Navy only has one conference loss. It's going to be one of those five that wins the championship. I think the American champ is the winner, but like you said, it's probably a placeholder because I could not tell you which of those five is going to win.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I didn't send you anything ahead of time. Andy's like one of my favorite guys to listen to, just in general, like across the board, even when you do your own show. So I'm just going to throw some stuff at you because some guys want to know. But I'm going to ask you about Virginia specifically this. Is this an example of a team spending some money and actually getting good? And is it a bit. I would compare it to Indiana, how we learned that Signetti is. He comes in, a coach can win quick. I feel like Virginia spent some money and got good in other teams, if they just commit money, they can also get good. Your thoughts?

[Andy Staples]

Well, there's two schools of thought in this, and it is a fine line, I think. So. You're exactly right. What Virginia did is they said, we can fire Tony Elliott now and pay him buyout money, or we can use that money to better the roster and give him a better chance. So they went out, they get Chandler Morris, they beef up that roster, and they are clearly better. So that's a case where that works. Now, I'm looking at Wisconsin right now where there's a possibility they can go 2 and 10 this year. They have said, we would like to bring Luke Fickle back. We just want to give him more resources to donate to the roster and see if that gets better. I don't know if that gets any better because Tony Elliott was close. There were games that were close. Like, Wisconsin doesn't feel competitive. So I think you have to examine each situation individually. And Tony Elliott is in a. Was in a really different situation just because of everything that's happened since he's been there. For those who don't remember, there was a situation early in his tenure at Virginia where a former Virginia player walked on a bus after a school trip and murdered multiple other Virginia players. And Tony Elliott's had to deal with that and the fallout from that. And so his tenure's been viewed a little bit differently. It has not been a purely wins and losses kind of thing. And so I think that's probably something that was on their minds last year as they were trying to figure out what do we do about this situation? How do we, how do we best use our resources? But I do think people are going to look at this and if you feel like your coach is close, if you feel like you like the culture that the coach brings, you feel like the players like playing for that guy and you're just a few players away, then that's when you do put more money toward the roster, when you feel like it doesn't matter what the coach does. Like Auburn and Hugh Freeze this past week, it didn't matter what Hugh Freeze did. The same problems kept coming up over and over and over again. You could have thrown a bunch of more, a bunch more money at that problem and it still wasn't going to change anything. So you have to know as an AD what you have. Are you actually close or is it somebody who's just going to give you the same set of problems over and over again?

[Brandon Marcelo]

So I am a booster donor at Arkansas, but I don't want to. I've chosen not to fly too close to the sun. Like, I've had to learn. Like, I don't want to not like people because I love it so much and I've had, you know, I'm not going to like every coach we hire and I don't want it. So I've chosen to not fly so close to the sun. But I have been privy to some emails and I won't give specifics, but they have been feeling out certain coaches, but not to the coach. It's got to go from like a person to a person that knows a person that knows a coach and you know the this better than anybody. And they would throw things out. Like, hey, would they can. They're in the, they're in the middle of their season with a team that's winning and they're going, hey, would this person consider 10 million a year? And it's got to go through all these layers. That's happening a lot everywhere right now, right? Where it's just media intermediaries, talking intermediaries. It.

[Andy Staples]

It absolutely is. And sometimes it's pretty cut and dried. Like search firm guy calls coach's agent says, what would, what would it take to get this person to School X? And that's why you hire a search firm. I think people get it confused. They think these ads hire these search firms to pick the coach for them or to give them a candidate pool. That's not what it is. You hire them so you have cover. So that when someone says, have you contacted so and so, you can say and not be lying. No, I have not. Did your search firm contact them? Yes, they have, but you don't have to say that. And that's exactly what's going on right now, Bobby. And Arkansas is fascinating to me. I want to ask you this because I watched what they did with John Calipari in basketball, and they took big swings, but they also, when they went to him, they said, we are going to make sure you are fully resourced in terms of the roster that you can put together.

[Mike]

And.

[Andy Staples]

And Tyson Foods obviously donated quite a bit of money. And Arkansas has big corporate backing. For those who don't know, I know your listeners probably understand that completely because you talk about them a little bit. But for the national audience, I always try to explain, when you go to northwest Arkansas, it's not what you think it's going to be. It is a place with a bunch of corporate headquarters, a lot of new money, and Arkansas has access to that in ways that other schools don't. And if you can get your corporate money excited at Arkansas, you can make a splash. And so that's what I wonder is, because we talk about the various candidates for this job, but I kind of think that's one where you could get the mystery person who you didn't think was movable because they can get that corporate money excited.

[Brandon Marcelo]

So specifically, John Tyson and Calipari had a relationship. Like, that's how. That's how basketball essentially happened, is a relationship. The human element of John Tyson, big Arkansas guy, loves John. They've been friends forever. And Kentucky and Calipari were not. They were not good. They were going to couples therapy at the time.

[Andy Staples]

Obviously, Kentucky was gonna fire me.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yes, yes. It was not going. So because of that relationship, Mr. Tyson stepped in and said, hey, basically, I got this. I'm gonna need a little help, but I got this. So. But what's happening now, roughly, I'll be very generic about. What's happening now is all these big. All these dudes or women with money, they want to have so much control if they give so much money. And that ends up being.

[Andy Staples]

This is the Texas conundrum for so, so long.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah. And it's starting because there is a ton of corporate money. You could go through trucking companies or checking companies or Walmart, and they all buy buildings up there and they can own the building. The problem is it's hard to pull in billionaire money if the billionaire is not pulling all the strings. And I'm feeling Thinking, knowing a bit that that's what's happening right now, that we. If we could pull that money, we. We'd pull up Bear Bryant, put him through the machine, he'd be alive again. He'd know it would all be. We'd have the resources to do that. But it's hard to combine all of it because all of it wants to have control, and that's where the issue lies.

[Andy Staples]

Yeah. And that's the hardest problem. That. That was the problem at Texas for so long. I remember talking to somebody who worked there, and they've gotten. They've gotten everybody on the same page at this point, which. Which is hard to do. It's credit to their athletic director, Crystal Connie, for doing it. But I remember talking to somebody who worked there, you know, 10, 15 years ago, and they said, you have these. These guys who are either multi millionaires, in some cases billionaires, that they are accustomed to whatever they say, everybody jumps and does exactly what they want. But the problem is when you have two billionaires and they want opposite things, one of them is not going to go what they want, and then they freak out and they're not used to that. So it is such a strange situation. And like, Arkansas is fascinating to me because I go back to what Hunter Jureczyk said when he fired Sam Pittman because he said, hey, we are resourcing John Calipari in the way he needs to be resourced to compete at the highest level. We were not resourcing Sam Pittman in the way he needed to be resourced. So that's the question I would ask if I'm a candidate at Arkansas is, are you going to give me the money to compete at the top of the sec? Because I do think you can.

[Kyle Larson]

Bobby.

[Andy Staples]

I had a segment on my show where we were talking about this. This is before Sam got fired. And we were. Somebody had asked me what I thought of the job, and I said, well, I don't know. Especially at a time when Missouri is good and Ole Miss is good. I just don't know how many of those level of sec. SEC programs can be good at the same time. And a person in the chat goes, andy, what did you think of the Ole Miss job before. Before Lane Kiffin was hired?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Like when.

[Andy Staples]

When it was Matt Luke and he was getting fired. What did you say about the Ole Miss job? And I'm like, you know what? I said the same thing. So I'm wrong. I'm wrong on this. Because if you make the right hire, be it Lane Kiffin at Ole Miss, Eli Drinkwoods at Missouri. You can change your fortunes in the sec. You can move. Now, maybe you don't move all the way to the top, but you can move into the upper echelon with the right hire. So Arkansas has a chance here. And that's the thing that like, I'm not sure in the old system, pre nil, pre transfer portal that Arkansas would have had a chance to move up. Now it does.

[Brandon Marcelo]

What about your school? What about Florida? What do you. What's happening? I.

[Andy Staples]

That one's, that one's crazy because the, the fan base wants Lane Kiffin. They are hell bent on getting Lane Kiffin. They think he is the spiritual successor to Steve Spurrier. That's all they want, that they don't want anybody else. But the fact of the matter is Lane Kiffin has a really good job right now. Ole miss may go 11 1. Ole Miss may play for the SEC championship. It's not 15 years ago where if Florida or LSU wanted the Ole Miss coach, they just snap their fingers and get him. It doesn't work that way anymore because the ceilings are actually pretty similar. And Ole Miss gives Lane Kiffin everything they want. Everything he wants. He has almost complete control. And I'm not sure going to get that at Florida and I'm not sure you're going to get that at lsu. And also, can you wait if Lane Kiffin is going deep in the playoff, like, even if he wants to come, can you wait on it? So that's a really interesting situation. So then you talk about who would the other candidates be? And I think it'd be Jeff Braum at Louisville would be a really good candidate for, for his job. Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri, Jed Fish at Washington's a Florida grad. I think, you know, he did an amazing job rebuilding Arizona. So far so good in the Washington tenure. But it's not going to make the fan base happy unless it's Lane Kiffin. And so they'll have to do some massaging if they can't get Lane, they'll have to deal with, oh, you know, maybe don't win the press conference. I'm not a big believer in you have to win the press conference. You have to win games. And the people I just named Jeff Braum, Eli Drinkwitz, Jed Fish, all of them are really good coaches. All them are good recruiters. They could all succeed at Florida. I do think Lane would be the best choice, but I'm not sure he's going to be available. I think there's a Chance Lane's just, he's good at Ole Miss.

[Brandon Marcelo]

We've seen extensions from Signetti, from Rule, from these guys mid season to go, hey, I'm staying. We haven't seen that from Lane. Is that an indicator of anything?

[Andy Staples]

Yeah, it's. It's either he's driving the price up still or he is seriously considering a move. And the fact that LSU is open changes the math on all this, too, because I think before LSU opened, the one he would consider leaving for is Florida. But I think he would probably consider leading for LSU as well. And so I, if I were him, I would milk this for all it's worth. I would. I would drive the price as high as humanly possible and then do that. Really, it comes down to, like I just said, because they can all pay about the same. I think you can win the national title at any of the three if you do it right. It just comes down to where you want to work. And so he's going to have to decide that.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I was looking at the odds because they put him out. Big Ten championship game, and I think Ohio State was three and a half point favorite. If they were to play today over Indiana. Who's the better team in your opinion?

[Andy Staples]

I think it's Ohio State because they have the best players in the country at certain positions. Like, so Caleb Downs and Arvell Reese are the two best defensive players in the country. Like, not just at their positions. They're the two best in the country and they're on the same team. Jeremiah Smith is the best receiver in he. Well, in five years, he will be the best receiver in the world. He will be better than Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase. But he's, he's definitely the best receiver in college football right now. Carnell Tate, if he's not number two, he's top five best receivers. And then Julian saying, I got to tell you, he's evolved as the season has gone on, and I think that they've handled his development really well. Where if you go back to that Texas game, they were not putting it in positions where he had to be Superman or do anything really drastic. I was at the Penn State game last weekend, Bobby, and this guy is awesome. Like, they're, they're taking the chains off a little bit, letting him do some things, and he may wind up being the best quarterback in the country. I still think that's probably Ty Simpson right now in Alabama, but the way Julian Saying is developing week to week, it's pretty scary. And so I think that's Why I would take Ohio State in that matchup. That said, I have a hard time picking. It's Kurt Signetti. I have a rule on the show now. I think I picked UCLA to cover 24 and a half against them a few weeks ago. I'm done with that. Like, if Indiana's favorite. I'm picking Indiana to cover. Like, they, they just dominate people, they crush people, and I think they're going to keep doing that. Like, there are two touchdown favorite at Penn State this week. Imagine going, you know, into a time machine to the middle of 2023 when Indiana was busy going 3 and 9 and saying, hey, in two years, the Hoosiers are going to go on the road to Happy Valley and there'll be two touchdown favorites. The person would have had you committed.

[Brandon Marcelo]

That Indiana team's interesting because again, when he came over, he brought a lot of jam, you guys with him. But it didn't feel like. And again, the headline just could have buried the other. But it didn't feel like it was a Virginia type situation where they just invested a whole bunch more money. It's like they invested in the guy and he brought some of his guys and it wasn't a we're going to toss a ton of nil money out, at least that first year. Am I correct about that, that it was more of a coach culture thing?

[Andy Staples]

Yeah, it's a coach culture thing and it's an understanding. And the thing is, they also did some stuff with some of the guys they inherited. I don't think people realize, like Carter Smith, their left tackle, was one of the guys they inherited. I believe he. I believe he signed with Indiana out of high school. I'm trying to remember what they have one. They had one lineman who had transferred in from Wisconsin that they ended up doing some. But. But he had transferred in when Tom Allen was there. So they found ways to. To take these guys that were not at another school, that were not at James Madison. And they've gotten a lot out of them, too. But it also helps that they brought this core from James Madison, Elijah Surratt, d' Angelo Pons, you know, Aiden Fisher, that knew exactly what Kurt Signetti expected. But it's funny because people now make that the excuse when. Because I think I call Kurt Signetti the destroyer of excuses. All these coaches that say, well, I. This is a bill, this is a process. Well, Kurt Signetti has put the lie to all of that. If you're good enough, you don't need time. And they say, well, yeah, but he brought his own players. He brought his players from the Sun Belt. Like you're not supposed to be able to do this. I think it's just he's a really good coach.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Final question. We were talking before you came on about all the things that you're doing because you're in a lot of different places. How are you not repeating your same material in different places? Because I find it's difficult for me to do too. But again, especially right now, you're all over the place place. How are you trying to keep things independent of each other?

[Andy Staples]

Well, so I have, I have my show at on three, which is me and Ari Wasserman together and a lot of it is. So Bobby, you're solo, which God bless you, I don't know how you do it. I'm terrible solo and can't imagine just talking into the void because I always wonder what people are thinking and if I can't get a reaction, I start losing confidence. So I like working with other people on shows. So I have Ari Wasserman, who's my co host at On3 and he is a lunatic and thinks differently than every other human on earth. So anything I bounce off of Ari on our show is going to go in a completely different direction than any other conversation I have. Whether I'm a guest on somebody's show or I also do a show at Yahoo. Called the College Football Inquirer with Ross Dellinger and Stephen Godfrey. We can do the same. And we have done this where same day, same topic. It's completely different because the way those guys interpret everything and the way Ari interprets everything are completely different. So they'll take me in different directions too. But yeah, it's funny because there are times though when it's a big week and you're doing a lot of shows that you're like, okay, I wonder how many people like, what's the Venn diagram of people who listen to that last show I did and who listen to this show. I got a good joke off on that last show, so maybe I could say squeeze it out here too.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Andy, underscore Staples. I'm a massive fan of what you do and how you present it. I really appreciate the time and yeah, we will put in the notes we were talking before you came on how to catch all your shows. But Andy, thank you for the time, man, and hope you have a great rest of the week.

[Andy Staples]

Thanks so much, Bobby. I appreciate it.

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[Brandon Marcelo]

Looking at the men's basketball odds that Arkansas isn't a top 10 team, right? And I'm not being a homer here because that last year I was like, I don't think we have it to win at all. I think we go pretty far. I think we have a shot to win it all.

[Mike]

But they're being haters because nobody knows anything. It's the, like they haven't played anyone. All these teams haven't played none of them.

[Brandon Marcelo]

But Purdue is going to be great. Yeah, but everybody loves Painter, the coach. And Houston's probably going to win the Big 12. And they're, they're number one, a plus, 950.

[Mike]

Purdue played like Memorial High School and they didn't look great.

[Brandon Marcelo]

They did, but all their guys came back. Back.

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Except for one, I think. But their whole team came back. Kentucky and UConn, Duke, Michigan, Florida, BYU, St. John's Louisville, Kansas. I'm telling you, I don't ever say smart money, but I, I would bet Arkansas because the odds one are going to be so high and we're really.

[Mike]

Good to win it all, but.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, but you can always. You cash out early.

[Mike]

You can. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How about like a Elite 8?

[Brandon Marcelo]

But again, you can bet to win it all. And if they make the Elite 8, you go and cash out and get your money.

[Mike]

Okay, that's not bad.

[Brandon Marcelo]

And then all of a sudden they're playing in the elite. Get somebody who lost their power forward and you're like, well, let's keep going with this thing. But anyway, I saw that and I was a little shocked. How's kid sports going?

[Mike]

Weird. So right now my, my 12 year old's trying out for the middle school basketball team. It's a two week long tryout. Like, I don't know about you guys, but when I was in school, it was one day and it lasted maybe an hour. And they're like, all right. You go to the sheet of paper the next day and you're like, oh, my name's not on the list. Cool. I didn't make it. But like my son's. This is two weeks.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It ends it for multiple teams. Like, are there multiple. Really?

[Mike]

It's one team and they're gonna. I think they're picking 12 kids. 12 is the number. I think there are maybe 25 trying out. I don't know, the fat dude. Every dad. Like, we look at each other, like, every time we drop off the kids and we're not, we're not allowed in, they take.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, that's weird. You said that about basketball too.

[Mike]

They tape the windows, they send a note out.

[Brandon Marcelo]

What are they doing to your kids?

[Mike]

I'm saying, dude, they sent a note out and Said no peeking through the windows. Absolutely no parents invited to the tryouts.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I understand why. I understand why. But two weeks seems a lot. A lot. The taping of the windows feels weird.

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Yeah.

[Mike]

You're telling me. I'm the dad. I'm like, what are they doing in there?

[Brandon Marcelo]

So you have to drop them off for two weeks and you don't know?

[Mike]

No. Today's the last. The last tryout day, and then they find out next week if they made the team or not, which. Pretty sure my son makes the team. He's a good basketball player, but he's not tall.

[Brandon Marcelo]

This is basketball. I said baseball, knows basketball. Got it.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

How does he feel about it?

[Mike]

He thinks he's gonna make it. He's got a good gauge. He knows.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Didn't he do this last year, though?

[Mike]

No, this is the first. This is for the school.

[Brandon Marcelo]

But didn't they have a tryout where you weren't invited? Like, it's very similar.

[Mike]

This is like three years ago. And it was to get into a league.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Got it.

[Mike]

And that was like, we can sit out the door, sit outside the gym doors or whatever. And. And I get it. You don't want. You don't want the parents in there yelling at the kids or the kids getting distracted by looking at the parents to make sure they're doing good at the tryouts. I understand that part, but the two weeks of an uninvited, closed door tryout is bizarre to me.

[Brandon Marcelo]

But you understand why not the two weeks, but the no parents?

[Mike]

The no parents. I understand. I do.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Two weeks does seem like a long time.

[Mike]

There are some parents that are too much.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Do you think you're too much ever?

[Mike]

No.

[Brandon Marcelo]

You say sometimes that you not on Pratt non practices. No, but I think it's just in general.

[Mike]

Games. Yeah. Sometimes when you're watching a game, you don't realize how much you're yelling. You know, like. And then my wife. My wife and I kind of help each other with it, like, settle down. You're yelling too hard. Or she'll tell me, like, you're yelling too hard and you don't even notice it. Dude. You're just in it. It's almost like if you're in an NBA game, you're just yelling. Like, what are you doing?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah. Except they're nine.

[Mike]

I know, I know.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Not getting paid a little bit different.

[Mike]

I know, I know.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I saw the clip you brought in from Coach Zark.

[Mike]

Oh, dude, I couldn't agree with him more.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Set it up.

[Mike]

Coach Sarks on at the podium. Talking about just schools firing coaches. And he's just saying like, you know, you keep firing coaches, who are you going to hire? Like there's a problem when you do this. Who are you going to hire? And there's also a culture of like school's not giving the coach then enough time to build a team and just getting rid of coaches.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Everybody wants to fire their coach. Who are you going to hire? There's all these jobs out there right now. Who's everybody going to hire? I don't know. We'll find out.

[Odoo Advertiser]

We're going to.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Somebody's got to be the head coach. The amount of, you know, one week you're a hero, the next week you're a zero mentality that fan bases and people want to have. Surely coaches want some security to what they sign up to go do. We work really hard and I get it, we all want to win and we're all busting our tails to try to win. And sometimes things don't go your way, especially in our conference. It's tough.

[Mike]

What do you think?

[Brandon Marcelo]

I think I was talking to Brandon Marcelo about this last week and Sark may have heard me talking and taken my theory.

[Mike]

That's gotta be what happened.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I knew I heard it before because I said that exact same thing. You're gonna have a lot of teams look back and go, dang, we shouldn't have fired our coach because now everybody's losing more. Yeah. And had we fired them five to seven years ago would have made more sense because we had worse non conference games. There were only four teams making the BCS playoff. Now if you don't make the tournament, like everybody wants their coach gone.

[Mike]

And that's what he's saying too, right? Like he's saying partly what you said.

[Brandon Marcelo]

He'S saying a lot of what you.

[Mike]

Said, but he's also saying too like this whole, okay, you don't make the playoffs and you fire your coach, you're not always going to win.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Well. And also when you fire a coach, the worst thing that's going to happen for a fan base is go. We don't want to retread, but there are all these great coaches that were fired for reasons that probably were a bit irresponsible to be fired for. And now they're considered a retread and fan bases aren't happy. But I would love. There are a couple retreads that I would love to have in Arkansas. But like James Franklin will be awesome.

[Mike]

Yeah, well, man, that'd be awesome.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Like you wanted Vanderbilt, he went up and won a bunch of guys at Penn state. Like, average 10 a year.

[Mike]

He seems like a smart dude, too.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah. I don't know him.

[Mike]

I don't. I don't either. But he seems like someone who knows what he's doing.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Doing.

[Mike]

There are some coaches that look like they're probably smart, but they don't look like they know what they're doing.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Another one, Sandusky.

[Mike]

Oh. Where. Where is he? He's in jail.

[Brandon Marcelo]

He's in jail. Don't.

[Mike]

Can you watch football in there?

[Brandon Marcelo]

I don't know what they do in jail. I hope everything bad happens to him. I was just using that as an example of, like, the worst possible retread.

[Andy Staples]

I was thinking any worse?

[Mike]

I was thinking of playing too much golf. No.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Hugh Freeze. Yeah.

[Mike]

No.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Like, I was going to the absolute worst coach that a fan base could possibly have. He could get out in 2042 at the age of 81. Hey, I'm gonna tell you what. We'll probably hire him. If I know us. If we have this same administration, we'll probably put a floater in there to see if he's available. Yeah, I think the retread thing gets. I did see where it's been rumored that possibly. I don't. Kevin, did you see this? Lane Kiffin. No, no, not Lane Kiffin. Lincoln Riley. Oh, no, I have not seen that at all. Yeah, maybe Lincoln.

[Mike]

Arkansas.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Lsu.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Wait, to Arkansas or lsu? Not Arkansas.

[Mike]

Oh, I thought you were saying, to Arkansas.

[Andy Staples]

Me, too.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I'm like, dang. To lsu.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Brandon Marcelo]

And if you remember, when he was at Oklahoma, they were doing the press conference and the LSU job was open, and they kept asking him, are you taking the LSU job? And he said, I'm not taking the LSU job. And then he bails off to usc. And that. That was his way to get around. It was. Nobody asked him about the USC job and they didn't say, are you leaving? They were like, there's a lot of rumors about you in the LSU job. He's like, I'm not taking the LSU job. Would you. If you're an LSU fan, would you want him that bad?

[Mike]

He's not a bad coach.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I think he's a really good coach, especially if he has the right defensive coordinator. I would like Lincoln Riley. I don't think they're going to get. Unless they get Lane Kiffin, they're going to be upset. Yeah, agreed. So I think Lincoln Riley is a great fallback. If you don't get Lane Kiffin, is.

[Mike]

Ole Miss cool with all Lane Kiffin talk like they have.

[Brandon Marcelo]

They can't do anything about it.

[Mike]

They can't.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It's weird because these coaches sign contracts, but it doesn't matter. It's actually, instead of a contract contracting their services for a certain amount of time, it is a contract that says how much another school has to pay to hire your coach as a buyout. That's basically what it's turned into. Like, I am in the middle of a contract with our company, and another company couldn't come and just be like, hey, we'd like to hire you. And I'm like, all right, I'm out. I have a contract.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

There's no buyout clause in it. If there was a buyout clause, oh.

[Mike]

That'D be awesome, dude. Maybe you should start a buyout clause.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It'd be crazy if we get traded, because I trade a couple of those fools and buy. Bunch of, like, right now, we would just trade people. I would get some good. I would get some good value. Yeah.

[Mike]

You know what, though? Sometimes I would be asked to be traded. Get me out of here. Give me.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Trade me as leverage.

[Mike]

I don't know. You hear that in sports, how they go to the coach or, like, trade me.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Like, there's a couple folks I'd trade for, like, a couple good cameras. You know how they do, like, the cash incentives.

[Mike]

Not even people.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I don't even. You know what? I don't need people at this point.

[Mike]

Any microphones.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I guess we need some technology, so.

[Mike]

And that's messed up. Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It'd be crazy if we could trade people, though.

[Mike]

That would be cool. And a buyout clause. You should just propose it.

[Brandon Marcelo]

If somebody pays $10 million, they can hire me. As long as they pay you the money to the company. Yeah, I don't really want that.

[Mike]

Oh, like, Like a. A and M guy, you know, Jimbo. Jimbo. Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Well, that's a buyout. 70 million. But also, it works both ways with those coaches. Meaning if a school wants to come and hire them, they can at any point, but they got to pay the buyout. Or if the school that currently owns that contract and, you know, the coach works for them, if they want to fire them, they have to pay out the buyout to the coach. So either way, you know, the coach makes their money.

[Mike]

Is there another job where you get fired as much as coaches do?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Oh, yeah. That's a good question, though. Let's think about that.

[Mike]

Because, like, coaches, like. Sorry, dude.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I think. I don't think that coaches are getting fired a lot.

[Mike]

Well, this year they are.

[Brandon Marcelo]

This year more than ever. But I'm saying it's like people winning the lottery. I don't have a lot of time to put the theory together, so.

[Mike]

I know. And I just threw this out.

[Brandon Marcelo]

So follow me here. We hear a lot of stories about people win a lottery. They're very high profile stories. Yeah, it's like only if somebody wins a billion 500 million, most people aren't winning the lottery.

[Mike]

Okay, I see what you're saying.

[Brandon Marcelo]

And so whenever a big time coaching job is open, it is all over the news all the time. There are probably. And Mike, you could look up how many Division 1, Division 2 schools, Division 3 schools. They're probably hundreds and hundreds of total college schools. Yeah. And this is a big year because there are 300 possibly. But there's what? And it turns up being 20 jobs open on in a big year. And a lot of that's carousel too. So there's really only a certain amount. And then all these other jobs open because other coaches took other jobs. So I don't think it's that there are so many jobs open. I think they're just high profile jobs that we hear about.

[Mike]

But then is Alcorn State firing their coach because they didn't win.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah. Three games possibly.

[Odoo Advertiser]

Are they?

[Mike]

Because I feel like the smaller schools, they're just like, you know what, like we lost four games. We'll give you two more years. Three more years.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I think smaller schools are a feeding system to bigger schools or they have longer to build. They're given, man, four to seven years.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

@ smaller schools.

[Mike]

And there's less eyeballs on them, less pressure of to win.

[Brandon Marcelo]

And also when you say coaches getting fired, There are also 40 coaches on every staff.

[Mike]

True. I guess we're talking about head coaches.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah. I'm just saying we know a lot of them because it's a high profile job that makes the news. So it's a job where people get fired a lot. But I bet people get fired in business every day all the time. Salespeople get fired all the time. So we just. It's just in the news. It's like plane crashes.

[Mike]

It's kind of harder to get fired though in the corporate world. Right. Like in there, like a lot of paperwork to fire people.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Well, there's also a lot of calls you got to make to donors and boosters to get money to fire coaches.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

So remember the whole plane crash thing where there was a news story about a plane crashing or smoking out or when there are fights all the time.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I don't think that was something that was happening all the time or in a lot of places, but when it did, man, it was highlighted and talked about a lot. I think that's basically what it is now. It's more this year than ever before. Especially the big jobs. Yeah. But I don't think, generally speaking, it's a profession where a lot of people are just getting fired willy nilly because there's real money involved. But it does seem like it's fine.

[Mike]

It is. I mean, fun for us.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It's fine. Yeah, it's fine. The turnover rate is kind of comparable to CEOs or politicians.

[Mike]

Yeah, well, you can fire politicians.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah. Not get. Not reelect them.

[Mike]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I would assume that would be what a firing of a politician is. Yeah. Like not re electing him.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Serve a term and you're done.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Well, you could also serve a term and be done and do. What most I feel in that world should do is do your couple terms, then get out and not be a lifelong politician. Yeah. But most don't do that. They just want to get reelected. Okay, I want to get over to this interview Eddie did.

[Mike]

Oh, it's a fantastic interview. One of the best. One of the best we've ever done on the podcast.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Really?

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I'm excited to not hear it. With newest.

[Mike]

You haven't listened to it?

[Brandon Marcelo]

No.

[Mike]

Why not?

[Brandon Marcelo]

And I never will.

[Mike]

Great. Now you're telling everyone listening, don't listen to it?

[Brandon Marcelo]

I didn't say that. But why would I listen to it?

[Mike]

I don't know. Just because you. And this is one thing you, you, like, texted me, like, hey, how did the interview go? And I was like, do you want to hear it? I was thinking to myself, like. Or you haven't heard?

[Brandon Marcelo]

If you want me to hear it, I would listen.

[Mike]

I would like. I would like for you to hear.

[Brandon Marcelo]

But I've got. I've got my secondary years making sure that it's good, which is Mike.

[Mike]

Oh, what did you hear? What did you hear there?

[Brandon Marcelo]

No, what I hear is if it makes it, it's good. Oh, okay.

[Mike]

Good.

[Brandon Marcelo]

He's not gonna put something on. It's not good.

[Mike]

I just didn't get anything.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I. Even with a show, if, like, there's something that's not good. Mike didn't even tell me. He'll just pull it.

[Mike]

Yeah, I know that.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Or he'll.

[Mike]

Or.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Or he'll edit something in a way that I don't have to worry about it. It and if Mike's like, no, it worked. Let's go.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Brandon Marcelo]

It wouldn't be on that sheet if it wasn't good.

[Mike]

Yeah, I know, but you guys understand.

[Brandon Marcelo]

This, but you can say, hey, listen to it, and I'm happy to listen to it. I don't know what you want.

[Mike]

You don't have to. It's okay.

[Brandon Marcelo]

No, no, no, no. I don't think you want him to critique it.

[Mike]

Yeah, no, actually, I really don't.

[Andy Staples]

I don't.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I'm happy to give you feedback.

[Mike]

Oh, no, I'm good.

[Brandon Marcelo]

You'll get a two minute voice message later on. But that's the thing. You will get it.

[Mike]

I'm good, dude, I'm good.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Did you ever send the Kenny Chesney interview off? Yeah. Oh, you did?

[Mike]

Yeah. Okay, good to read. You haven't gotten that?

[Brandon Marcelo]

No, I was thinking about it last night before I went to bed.

[Mike]

What about that?

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah, yeah, no, I got it off Eddie and Kenny. I was just asking Eddie for this Kenny Chesney interview. I don't know why I brought it up right now, but I was thinking about it last night and I was like, I'm too sleepy to grab my phone if you would have had to.

[Mike]

Tell me three times. I got problems.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Well, no, I was emailing Eddie to the wrong email address.

[Mike]

Yeah. Yes, yes.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Because Eddie's very responsive. And I sent an email and I was like, hey, will you send me the Kenny Chesney interview? I want to find a couple clips for socials. And I got no response. So I sent it again. I was like, hey, don't forget to send me that interview. And nothing. So I text him. He text me about something, and I text him back. I was like, hey, what's up with that Kenny interview? And he's like, what are you talking about? So I screenshotted a couple emails and he was like, dude, is that like my eddie69gmail.com? And I was like. I said, I don't know. I just hit your name up there and it sent it and that's what it was.

[Mike]

I found it later after the Best Buy prom.

[Brandon Marcelo]

That's on me. I literally just type ed and the Eddie populates into the thing. But yeah, yeah, yeah, here we go. Let's get over to this talk. Hey, Brandon, those hats are funny we were wearing, aren't they? Yeah, those are so funny. They're big. Those are funny. Let's get over to Eddie with NASCAR cup champion Kyle Larson. I have heard this interview is great. Shut up, dude.

[Mike]

Shut up. Just Play the thing.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Anybody listening right now? Will you send me your notes on Eddie's interview? DM me and Instagram your notes.

[Mike]

No. Be kind, guys.

[Brandon Marcelo]

No, I want to know what they really think. It may be. Eddie did great. No, Amy did an interview with. What, Annie Bosco. Yeah. That we put up on the Bobby Bones show because it was for women of our country and we. We only use parts of it. And so we put the whole thing up and for the most part, people were positive about it. I don't think people are going hard for the sake of going hard.

[Mike]

Okay, well, I feel that with this setup, you're setting them up.

[Brandon Marcelo]

I'm not. I'm just asking. Give us a few critique lines. Yeah, three.

[Mike]

Yeah. And be. Be real. Be real.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Or. Oh, this could hurt.

[Mike]

See, this is what I'm worried about.

[Brandon Marcelo]

So these are the two things I would say. One, either DM me or two, if you're listening on Spotify, there's the comment section. Oh, oh, no. But write us a critique of Eddie's. Eddie's interview here.

[Mike]

But would this hurt our streaming?

[Brandon Marcelo]

No. It would help it. We love the.

[Mike]

No, even. It was just like, this is the worst thing interview I've ever heard in my life.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Nope. We just love engagement.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Brandon Marcelo]

All right, here we go. Kyle won the championship on Sunday, and some people say it was kind of.

[Mike]

A cheap win because he didn't actually win the race.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Is this something we find out about here?

[Mike]

Not really.

[Brandon Marcelo]

How did he not win the race if he won the race?

[Mike]

Because it's not how it works. Like, you don't have to actually win the race that he was racing.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Mike]

We know how that works.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So I don't know.

[Brandon Marcelo]

He's got enough points and you finish in a high enough spot and you'll hear it was not a cheap win.

[Mike]

You'll hear in the interview he took two tires instead of four. Denny Hamlin, who could have won as well, took four tires that was on him. So it takes longer to put four tires on than it takes two. That's why they think he won.

[Brandon Marcelo]

You can now follow Kyle on social media at Kyle Larson Racing. Here he is, the great Eddie with Kyle Larson.

[Mike]

We're here with two time NASCAR cup series champ Kyle Larson. Dude, this yesterday was crazy, man. Like, that race was nuts. So run me through the end of that race where William Byron goes out, he hits the wall. You got a decision to make. You're in the la, you're in the caution, and you decided to go with two tires. Who decided to go with two tires? Was that you or who made that call? Because obviously it was the right call.

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah, I think it was just a team decision. We were all kind of on the same page there, you know, when the caution came out. We have our own little code words for what, you know, means what for whether it's four tires or two tires. And I kind of, like, threw it out there, like, hey, what are you guys thinking about this? And they're like, oh, we're definitely doing that. It's like, all right, let's.

[Mike]

Let's go.

[Kyle Larson]

I think that's our only shot to win here. And, yeah, we just executed a good pit stop, and, yeah, was able to do. We had to do there. So, yeah, as you mentioned, just a crazy finish for us. You know, we were pretty average all day at best, and you went a lap down in the third stage and just never gave up. And I think that was. That was it. And that's what, you know, got us. Got us that championship.

[Mike]

Are you saying that you have code words? Because everyone can hear the radio talk?

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah, every team kind of has code words because, yeah, you're. You're trying to decoy a little bit. You know what you're gonna do, because, yeah, all the. All the teams are scanning the radio of all the other race cars. So, yeah, you just try to keep. Keep things a little bit of a secret.

[Mike]

And.

[Kyle Larson]

And that's how you do that with. With the code words.

[Mike]

And when did you know that Denny took four tires and that immediately you're like, this is gonna. This could work.

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah. So, you know, my pit stall was, like, on the complete opposite side of the racetrack as his. So we did our pit stop, our two tires, and I came out, and, you know, the pit road kind of goes around turns three and four. So you curve around. I'm. He was in the number one pit saw, so I was just trying to look as far around as I could and just praying that he wasn't taking two tires as well. And when I saw they were taking four, and then as many people that I have between him and I, you know, a few people, I was like, man, we got a good shot here. We've got a little buffer, and I'm gonna try and, you know, rip hard on this restart through 1 and 2, and it just all worked out.

[Mike]

I think what was so cool is, as soon as you won, when you cross the finish line, you start yelling like, thank you, team. Like, we did it. How many people go into this? Because obviously, we watch and we watch you race, and we're like, this is Kyle. He does. He's in charge. He deserves the win. But there are so many people behind the scenes. Like. Like, how many people are actually involved in this win?

[Kyle Larson]

Well, I think there's, like, close to 500 people at Hendrick Motorsports, so. And every single person has, you know, has a part in the four cars, the 400 motorsports cars, getting to the racetrack and in racing. So, yeah, it's a huge team win, but especially, you know, the team of people at the racetrack or your core, core group. And that, you know, championship yesterday took every single person there. So I was just blown away and shocked and surprised and all of it, and just so proud of the team for the never give up attitude and doing what we had to do to make the gutsy calls, the right moment, and then take advantage of the moment.

[Mike]

You said the car was, like, average at best. I've heard you guys. I like to bet on nascar. It's one of my favorite things to do. So sometimes I'll bet before the race starts, and then as soon as I hear you or anyone on the radio say, man, the car's loose. This is not feeling right. Right. Immediately I'm like, well, I lost that bet. What. What do you mean by that? When you say, like, the car's loose.

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah. So when. When you hear a driver saying the car is loose, that means, like, the rear end of the car wants to come around. When you say you're tight, that means, like, the front end of the car wants to hit the wall. So, yeah, and then you're just trying to find that right balance of where you got. You know, it's just kind of free and natural and going around the corner easy. But, yeah, my car, yesterday, it was. It was all of it. I was tight and loose and slow and frustrated and all of it.

[Mike]

Yeah. But see, as soon as I hear that, I'm like, bets, bets lost. But that's not always the case. Is that what you're telling me, Kyle? Is that not always the case, that even though it doesn't feel right, you could still win?

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah. And that's just the way NASCAR racing is, because you get a late caution like we did yesterday, and then you get. You get strategy to come into play, and you never know, you know what the clear cut answer is. You don't know what other teams are going to do. So it just gets wild and crazy and. And, yeah, I would say more often than not, I feel like in the Cup Series, the fastest car doesn't Always win. You know, there's so many elements into racing, you know, with pit stops and, and other competitors on the track and, and, and like I mentioned, the strategies, it's just. It gets wild and you got to be big, be prepared for those wild moments.

[Mike]

Now we're recording this the day after your win. What happens. What happens after you win? After the TV goes out, we don't see you anymore. Like, how do you celebrate this win?

[Kyle Larson]

Well, for the championship, it's a lot of pictures, like, tons of pictures. My cheeks hurt today from smiling so much.

[Mike]

So.

[Kyle Larson]

But yeah, it was about, I don't know, close to five hours or so of, of. Of, you know, celebration at the track and pictures, like I mentioned, and interviews and all of that, and then hurry home, shower, and go. Go out. You know, we went out in Old Town Scottsdale last night and that was a blast. You know, the whole team was able to come and, and celebrate the, the championship. So just really proud of everybody and, and cool to celebrate. You know, we had a. Our team looked a lot different, you know, from our first championship. So it was cool that, you know, it was a lot of their first championships and hopefully not their last.

[Mike]

When you say you go out, what do you tell the kids? Like, all right, guys, Dad's got to go celebrate. Dad will be back.

[Kyle Larson]

I think they understood. They, they knew what we were going to do last night. So, yeah, we. We brought a nanny out with us this trip.

[Mike]

So. Smart.

[Brandon Marcelo]

Very helpful.

[Mike]

Yeah. So it's funny because, like, my kids, you know, they think every dad's on the radio or has a podcast or whatever, and, and it's not the case. Like, no, man, you. Not every kid's. Not every, not every dad's like this. What about you? Do your kids know what you know? Do they know what you do in the sense of, like, you're one of the best race car drivers out there?

[Kyle Larson]

That's a good question. I don't know. I don't know that. I think. I think Owen probably is. He's, you know, he's my oldest. I think he gets an idea, which I gotta remind him sometimes, because he's right. He races himself. And I'm like, dude, you gotta listen to me.

[Mike]

Don't you realize dad knows what he's talking about?

[Kyle Larson]

So I think he's starting to realize, but I'm not sure, you know, and I don't. I don't want. I mean, I guess, you know, as a dad, you want to be that superhero, but I also don't want them to Think that I'm above anybody because I am just a normal person and I'm. And I'm. I'm their dad and. And they get to see a side of me that nobody else gets to see. So, yeah, that probably makes me seem more down to earth to them. But, yeah, it's just cool having your family at the racetrack and getting to celebrate moments like that.

[Mike]

It's.

[Kyle Larson]

It's pretty. Pretty amazing.

[Mike]

I'm sure you, you know a lot of celebrities, a lot of. You've met a lot of people in your career. When you win, like last night, who's. What's the coolest text you get from who? And. And does your phone blow up too, after a win?

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah, yeah, it definitely does. I. I think I had probably somewhere in the mid-400s last night, so, yeah, I've been able to get through most of them, which is.

[Mike]

Which is good.

[Andy Staples]

It takes time.

[Kyle Larson]

But, yeah, I don't know. I. I think for me, yeah, there's definitely, you know, some celebrities that'll text you, but for me, it's. It's the people that have, you know, meant the most to me throughout my life. I would say going back to, like, my childhood, having a lot of my childhood friends that I maybe don't get to stay in touch with much anymore because I'm, you know, outraced on the east Coast a lot. You know, my friends and supporters that have been there from the beginning, I think those are the ones that mean the most to me.

[Mike]

So when you text back, say, to the 400 replies, is it kind of the same thing? Like, thanks, dude. Thank you. Thanks, Appreciate it.

[Kyle Larson]

It's a lot of that. Yeah, for sure. Just because, man, it would.

[Mike]

It.

[Kyle Larson]

If you got real personal with it, it would. I don't know how long it would take, but it would take a. A very long time. And I. And I don't like seeing the. The unread, you know, the red number text message on there. I like my phone pretty clean, so.

[Mike]

So you don't have.

[Kyle Larson]

I gotta get through it quickly.

[Mike]

So you. You make sure they're all red.

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah, well, I mean, I respond to them too, so. But yeah, I just don't like the little red bubble on there. Same with my email. I make sure I. I at least open it to where I don't have any unread emails because I just don't like the cluttered mess.

[Mike]

I'm looking at mine. I have 23,265 unread emails.

[Andy Staples]

Oh, my gosh.

[Mike]

We're very different man, very different. Yeah.

[Kyle Larson]

Dang.

[Mike]

Is that kind of the way you are with your, with your race car? Like, is everything have to be exactly the same way every time you get in there?

[Kyle Larson]

I think with. Sure. Like with how I. My morning routine would go or the way I buckle myself in the race car. Like all of that is. Yes, very much the same every time. You know, even putting the, what order you put your shoes on, your gloves on, so a little bit ocd. I don't know if all race car drivers are like that or not, but I just. Yeah, I don't know. I've just always been like that. Just kind of muscle memory.

[Mike]

Are you sock, sock, shoe, shoe, or are you sock, shoe, sock, shoe?

[Kyle Larson]

I'm socks and then shoes.

[Mike]

Okay. All right. Just making sure. I didn't know you're psychotic or not. I just wanted to make sure you're somewhere.

[Kyle Larson]

Oh, yeah, I would say that sounds very psychotic.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. One more question I was going to ask you about just kind of, you know, pre. Pre race odds and stuff. Before you race, do you look at the odds to see if you're favored to win or do you kind of know, you already know where you're at.

[Kyle Larson]

That I don't look. But a lot of times, you know, because I'm in it, right. Like, I know what tracks are good. I know how practice kind of went. And a lot of times we're the favorite, you know, the five, like Kyle Larson and the five team. Because, you know, we, we run up front a lot, but there's a lot of tracks. I'm like, man, I don't know why they have me the favorite. Like, I know I'm gonna suck, but yeah, we're not allowed to talk about it. We can't, we can't offer any insight.

[Mike]

Yeah. Do you. What's, what's another sport? What are like, what sport into You. You like football?

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah, I like football. I mean, I like all sports. I would say I'm not, I don't have the time to get fully invested in it, you know, and, and know the players and, and who's on the injured list and, and all that or who just got traded, but I enjoy watching all sports. I, I'm, I'm a competitor, so I like to see, you know, athletes compete at a high level and just get a glimpse into what their mindsets might be and. But yeah, right now it's football season, so I'm enjoying watching some, some football.

[Mike]

I mean, I love watching you guys on the weekends. But I always think, you know, like, man, like Kyle can't watch football today. Like he's got a race today, you know? Did you feel like your weekends are just shot because of what you do?

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah, I mean our life routine is much different than a normal person. Like our, I feel like our weekends, you know, our Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Tuesday, Wednesday, really. And that's, everybody's working, so it's like you don't really get a chance to hang out with people or go on vacations or, or whatever. So it's a bit odd. But yeah, football, I mean, we miss all the games, but yeah, I'll watch. Usually our race gets done in time to like when Sunday night football's turned on, which is cool. We can sit on the plane and, and watch some football.

[Mike]

So what now, man? How, how long do you celebrate this win and enjoy this win and then move on to the, the, the next?

[Kyle Larson]

I would say, I mean the banquet we have here in Arizona tomorrow, so I think that makes the celebration much shorter. Before, you know, we used to have the banquet at three or four weeks probably after the final race. So it's, I would think that the celebration seems longer, but I think it'll be good. I, I, I, I think it's good that we're having it right after. It's fresh, you're excited still and, and all that. So, so yeah, I look forward to celebrating with the team again tomorrow night and celebrating this the year that all of us teams had and then yeah, getting focused for, for next year. I'll get to, I do a lot of dirt track racing, so I'll do some, some dirt track stuff this off season and, and then, yeah, just get ready for, for Daytona in February.

[Mike]

Lastly, where does the, where does the trophy go? Because when I won my first CMA award, I was like, I'm. This is going my living room. My wife's like, no, it's not that.

[Kyle Larson]

It, I have a nice trophy case in my house, like a game room, so glass, you know, lit up trophy case. It's really nice. That's where I have all my big wins. But yeah, I'm gonna have to kind of re, lay out the shelving and I, and I think, you know, probably gonna have to pull a trophy out of there because I, they're all big ones and yeah, I don't think I'll have the space for everything.

[Mike]

That's a good problem to have, dude. Congratulations, man. It's really awesome. It was a great race. It was a good season. And just congrats, dude. And thank you so much for making time to hang out with us with us today.

[Kyle Larson]

Yeah, thank you. Thanks a bunch.

[Mike]

All right, bud.

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I turned off news altogether.

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I hate to say it, but I.

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It's the rage bait.

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We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little.

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Gonna wrap us up. Hope everybody has a great weekend.

[Mike]

You too, man.

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[Mike]

I thought it was gonna be a good week because the Cowboys aren't a buy.

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[Mike]

Yeah.

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[Mike]

Okay.

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You're just gonna be sitting around watching football?

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Yeah, because you're gonna be holding.

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[Mike]

I know who I married.

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[Mike]

Yeah.

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